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And we start right now. Good morning, America. Welcome to American Sunrise. Whether it's culture, we have breaking news to share with you. Politics. President Trump is joining us live now from Florida. We've got you covered. This is what it looks like to be a patriot. We have to protect the American family. The American dream is still alive. I'm David Brody. I'm terrence. And I'm Dr. Gina. Good morning, everybody. I'm Dr. Gina. We are live with you from the Palm Beaches. Let's bring in David Brody. He's in Washington, D.C. and Terrence Bates in our Denver newsroom. Good morning, gentlemen. Hey, Gina. Morning, Dr. Gina and David. Good morning. So, look, there's new information out this morning related to the manhunt, the ongoing manhunt for the person accused of killing Charlie Kirk. This is surveillance video the FBI released, and it basically shows, and you'll see this momentarily, the suspect literally running across the roof of this building and then eventually jumping from the roof onto the ground and getting away. You can see it all kind of going in here. And there he is. You can see him kind of scaling down the wall, and eventually he's going to jump down onto the grass and then run away from the crime scene. So this is new video out. The FBI also out with some pictures of the suspect. So now we at least have a face to go with this. There's the picture right there. Obviously asking for the public's help. There's a big reward out, and hopefully someone recognizes this person and can help track him down. In the meantime, guys, Utah Governor Spencer Cox also warning about disinformation that's out for those people who are spending so much time on social media. I think Charlie said it best that when things get bad, we should put our phones down and spend a little time with our families. There is a tremendous amount of disinformation. We are tracking our team, the state team, and I'm sure the federal team as well. What we're seeing is our adversaries want violence. China, we have bots from Russia, China, all over the world that are trying to instill disinformation and encourage violence. I would encourage you to ignore those, to turn off those streams and to spend a little more time with our families. And, Dr. Gina, the sooner police and the feds and all those involved catch this alleged shooter, hopefully the sooner we'll all get more answers as to why, and hopefully there will be some peace of mind knowing that he's behind bars. Yeah, I don't know about you, but I felt better once I saw this footage and that they really are on to someone and that it looks like they might actually catch someone. That really. It really pivoted my grief in a way, or at least maybe my anger in a way, because if. If this guy was gonna get away with this, I don't think. I just didn't know how mentally we would all handle that. That would have just been too much, you know, and that he's still. I realize he's still on the run. It's not like we have him, but it seems like they're closing in on him, and I can't imagine they don't ultimately catch him soon. David, I don't know. What are your thoughts about that? Well, Gina, listen, you and I track a lot. I'm on the other side of this. I angrier after I saw that press conference last night, like, really, really angry. And look, there's been a lot of emotions this week, as we all know, and I'm a pretty jovial guy, but I'm pretty ticked this morning. And there's a lot of reasons, and I'll be brief. I'll be brief. But let me just quickly say two quick things. No questions at all. They left the podium and didn't take a question. He says the governor says there's disinformation out there. Okay, like what? Let me ask a question about it. Oh, you didn't tell us what the disinformation is. So you're going to therefore have more of that out there, more speculation. Why don't you shoot some of it down? How would you answer a question or two? I understand there's a lot many answers at this point, but if you say there's disinformation, then what are you talking about? Then they have Cash Patel, the FBI director, go over there, and he stands there to the side, doesn't ever come to the microphone. He's the leader of the FBI. Why is he not at the podium speaking? It was pathetic. And then last thing on that video. Great, we have the video, and now all of a sudden we see the shooter going down there. And then where do they stop it? They stop it. Where? He's at a tree. He's still in the video. He's at a tree. That's it. A minute 38 of video. And what happens after that? Could we ask a question about that? Where's. What happens after a minute 38? Like. Like he did. Did he get in a car? Did he run off? We never see it. We were left with lots of questions about, well, then what happened once he was at the tree? Could we see a little bit more video, guys? I was ticked off. I think those are all super legitimate questions, David, and I appreciate him. And I maybe misspoke, too. I didn't mean that. I felt better after the press conference. Actually didn't see the press conference last night. I had a client in town. But I did feel better once they started releasing pictures of the guy, which was initially, I think, yesterday morning. All right, let's get to today's Bible verses from John 14:26. Peace I leave with you. My peace I give to you. Not as the world gives do I give to you. Let not your heart be troubled. Neither let it be afraid. Well, President Trump announced that he would be giving Turning Point USA founder and Brav's own Charlie Kirk the Presidential Medal of Freedom posthumously. Listen, before we begin, let me express the horror and grief so many Americans at the heinous assassination of Charlie Kirk have felt. Charlie was a giant of his generation, a champion of liberty and an inspiration to millions and millions of people. Our prayers are with his wonderful wife, Eric, and his beautiful children. Fantastic people they are. We miss him greatly. Yet I have no doubt that Charlie's voice and the courage he put into the hearts of countless people, especially young people, will live on. I'm pleased to announce that I will soon be awarding Charlie Kirk, posthumously, the Presidential Medal of Freedom. The date of the ceremony will be announced, and I can only guarantee you one thing, that we will have a very big crowd. Very, very big. For more, let's bring in the editor in chief of Breitbart News, Alex Marlowe. Alex, thank you for being with us today, Alex. First, I just want to let you speak to your memories of Charlie. Good morning. Seems like Alex's sound is off a little bit. David, I want to give you a chance while we're waiting for them to adjust things to go back to. I think those questions you asked are so legit. In fact, I thought how perfect that we're having Alex Marlowe because those are the kinds questions that Breitbart would ask. Exactly. You're such a veteran of this business. It does seem ridiculous that they just categorically reject all things online. We're just not supposed to go online now. Little Americans, go sit in your spots and wait for us to do. To tell you what you think. Is that kind of how you're feeling? Well, good morning, guys. Here we got Alex. We'll come back to that. Good morning, Alex. Go ahead. Yeah, that was my bad. I apologize. And good morning to Terrence, doctor, Gina, and David. First of all, let me start by thanking David for that, because I want to give it 24 more hours before I start yelling. But this is a disgrace that we just nearly lost President Trump a year ago because a guy shot him from a roof. We didn't secure the roof for my friend Charlie. No one looked. No one bothered to see if there's any gunman sitting there on the roof waiting to kill one of our most important warriors. And I didn't want to go there quite yet. But now that we don't have the guy days later, it's hard not to. And what was the governor smiling about in that press conference? Why did he have a grin? Thank you, Alex. Thank you. Well, what is going on here? And the FBI director, who I support greatly, I just wrote a book that you guys were kind enough to promote where I say he could be our Elliot Ness now, the time, Cash. This year. There's a big moment here. We're rooting for you. We believe in you, but we got to bring him home now, now. And then there needs to be something. My friend got executed in public for free speech three days ago. A guy who I met as a teenager and offered his first opportunity to write at Breitbart News. And he took that and he turned that into an empire for media and activism where he inspired millions of people who are going to be remembering him for centuries, probably at a minimum, decades, at minimum. An incredible legacy. And we can't find his killer. We have video of him. No one's identified who he is. It's crazy to me. It's completely crazy to me that we don't know where this guy is or who he is, and we don't know what kind of a network he has. We don't know what country he's from. We know anything about this guy at all at this point. It is a. I'm hoping I eat these words in a couple hours. Hey, guys, we want to interrupt. Alex, I apologize, but President Trump saying that a suspect is now in custody. Let's listen in. This is just in breaking news from Real America's Voice. Just to protect us all. And so FOX doesn't get sued and we all don't get sued and everything else. But I think with a high degree of certainty, we have him. We're in custody. In custody. Everyone did a great job. We worked with the local police, the governor. Everybody did a great job. You know, getting somebody that you start off with absolutely nothing. And we started off with a clip that made him look like an ant. That was almost useless. We just saw a picture. There was somebody up there. And so much work has been done over the last two and a half days. You know, it's amazing, actually, when you start off with that, and then all of a sudden, you. You get lucky or talent or whatever it is. But, yeah, we're. I think we're in great shape. Any updates on the suspect? Yeah. All right, guys, so we'll continue our conversation, but it sounds like the breaking news now. President Trump saying that he believes law enforcement do now have the suspect in custody, which is, of course, a huge break in this case. Go ahead, Alex. Yeah, huge news. And we need to get to the bottom of who he is, if he had a network, what he came from. And then, of course, we need to unpack some of those security failures that were. There's going to be a lot of shared blame here, but we need a full accounting of it. But you know, there is a. We're all going through our Kubler Ross stages of grief here, and one of them is anger. And that's something that is, I think, very legitimate. And it's a grieving process that we' going to have as a, as a movement, as a nation. I know Charlie was a colleague for you guys on Real America's Voice. So we're all going to have some of that. So if they got him, they got them. And again, that's the. But it's important to note that the expectation is country in an era where we have 24, seven video surveillance that you catch guys like this pretty quick. Yeah. What I was saying at the top, by the way, I mean, obviously, and I was about to do the disclaimer, but now we have this news. The disclaimer simply like I'm not saying they're not working hard to try and find them. Obviously. Obviously. That's obvious. I was just talking about the. How do I say it? The way the PR aspect of it when you send Cash Patel out to Utah or he goes out there himself. Excuse me, and Dan Bongino, and then he doesn't come to the microphone. That just seemed like an unforced error. I will say this, Alex, let me ask you about this because the actual quote from President Trump is I think so. Not that we know. I think then he says with a high degree of certainty, we have him. Do you have them or not? That's an interesting way to phrase something like that. And we haven't. I'm still looking. I'm searching official sites here to make sure or to see if we have anything official. What does that mean exactly, Alex? And I think the answer will be we're not quite sure. It's very hard to know. And that's where I feel like again, I wanted to if you weren't so passionate and touching a nerve with me, David, I was prepared to kind of wait a day. The yeah, but it's really tough considering that we're all under surveillance all the time. There's so many photos, footage of everyone online. Everyone's got something they don't want online. And I can't think of. I studiously avoid posting stuff that I'm not certain I want out there. And there's still all this stuff. That's the era we're in. And then we got footage of the guys on the roof and we can't get them. It just. It's bizarre that it's taken three days in this moment. So hopefully that's all it was. Hopefully that's all it was. Or I guess two and a half days. But it's the. If they got him, it'll be incredible. But then there's still a lot of accounting that needs to take place for how this got to be where it was. Charlie is a giant in this movement. He was a leader in activism, he was a leader in broadcasting. He was a connector of people. He was a singular figure in my space, in our space, the one that we all share together. He can't be replaced by an individual. But his legacy is going to be so vast because he was so communicative, he was so persuasive, he created so much content and he shared so much with us. And he did this with this relentless optimism. And we need to get justice for him immediately. Alex, if I may, what do you see the larger impact of this assassination being. Because there are a lot of us who are hurting. There is a segment of society that is pissed off and I'm sorry, but that's the only way to say it. And there's been talk of this civil war, if you will, that's burgeoning. Do you see it escalating to something like that? Be it an armed civil war or otherwise. But there are people who are very angry and who want get back, if you will. Yeah, I think there's gonna be a lot lower tolerance for some of the nonsense, for lack of a better expression that we've seen over the last 10 years in this country. I don't think there'll be a civil war. I think that conservatives are law abiding and we're the ones who are getting hunted down. So this again with some of the premise of my research is that it's the left that hates law and order. We love law and order and we want to retreat to law and order. So you're gonna see conservatives dealing with this by going to church, by communing with God and by arming themselves, by fortifying themselves and protecting their families so that they're prepared, so that they're not sitting ducks. When we get hunted down, which we will, they'll continue to do it. You've seen the reactions on the line. They're not gonna stop. They're gonna keep trying to kill us. So we're gonna be more diligent and vigilant in that regard, but we're gonna beat them by legal means. That's how we're gonna do it. And so I don't predict there's gonna be any civil war or anything like that. I guess I'm sort of obsessed with something you alluded. And over the last couple days, I keep asking this question. We had President Trump almost assassinated from a rooftop. Do we not sweep rooftops? As a matter of. I mean, if Gina Louden, who knows absolutely zero about security, were suddenly put in charge of security, guess what the first thing I would do is? They didn't do that, Alex. It's just. It is not acceptable. And it seems we can give it some time. I don't mean to force you guys into talking about it right now, but I know that that's a. Something I threw out there, but it really is something that we do need in accounting. That why that didn't happen, I just. I can't believe it. I can't believe that that didn't happen. And there's going to be a lot of shared blame. You got to talk about the university, local law en. But we knew that there was a target on Charlie's back because of what he stood for, his Judeo Christian values, the way that he was resonating with younger people. When the left tells you who they are, you have to believe them. And they've told us they want to achieve goals by any means necessary. They kept calling us all Nazis and Hitler and fascists. They continue to lie and smear Charlie, and his body's not even cold yet. And it just shows you that of course they want him dead. They've been trying to kill Trump. They tried to. To kill Steve Scalise. They tried to kill the whole congressional baseball team. They attacked Rand Paul. They post all of our addresses online, those of us who are prominent conservatives to get us doxed and swatted all the time. It's been nonstop for 10 years. And think about all the anonymous Christians who've been targeted over the years, firebombing the crisis pregnancy centers that we've documented. Breitbart, 100 instances of those over the last decade or so, maybe more. Of course they wanna kill us. So why aren't we prepared? We need to be prepared. Yeah, no doubt about it. I'm sorry, I'm working sources Guys. Yeah. And I. We're live on the air, obviously not seeing anything. I'm going to hold off for now. I've got a few things. Go ahead. No, you go ahead because you don't have a lot of time. No, no, that's my point. I don't go ahead. Oh, okay, I'll jump. Because the news that we got again, President Trump somewhat hedging, saying he believes that the suspect in this particular case is now in custody. But I feel like we kind of need some sort of answers and we've kind of been touching on it. But whoever or if there is in fact an arrest, I think the country can't really breathe a sigh of relief until we get some answers. Having someone in custody, that's fine, but we need to know the motive. We need to know who may have been behind this. I think there are still so many unanswered questions that we need answered before we can breathe a sigh of relief. Yeah, absolutely. And I think that'll be a great comfort to all of us if we really feel like we understand what the threat is. And I think a lot of my anger today is that we can't start that process. I think it would be a deep comfort to us if we can at least start trying to understand, was there a network? Was this a lone wolf person? What kind of information were they getting that radicalized them? Or was this someone who was a professional and who would have hired this person? What are the networks in place in the area that may have put this radical person who's willing to commit this heinous act on that roof? There's so much that is unanswered and it is a huge distraction when I love that we've had so many tributes to Charlie and we will, but there is this looming thing that this person's at large. And the sooner that comes to a close and we can begin unpacking that mystery, I think it'll help us focus on Charlie's long lasting legacy. Thanks, Alex. Alex, thank you so much. Thanks for being with us. I guess we're going to come back. Looks like David Brody is chomping at the bit to say something. We'll be back with whatever it is David Brody has to say. In more of our breaking news coverage, President Trump claiming a suspect is in custody for the Charlie Kirk assassination. We'll tell you more in just a moment. We all know those GLP1 injections work wonders, but that price tag almost gave me a heart attack when my insurance denied coverage. I was staring at A choice between paying my mortgage or paying for weight loss. Talk about a rock and a hard place. Then I found Elevate Health Compounded semaglutide at just $58 with payment plans that don't require a second mortgage. Same medication, same results, but a price that real folks can actually afford. Visit joinelevate.com today. That's J-O-I-N-E-L-E-V-A-T-E.com. your wallet will be as happy as your waistline. This medication is not FDA approved. Breaking news from Real America's Voice. Breaking news as we just reported, President Trump announcing that in all likelihood they have a suspect. That wasn't actually what he said. He didn't say likelihood. We're going to play the clip that they have a suspect in Charlie Kirk's assassination and that the new information, according to President Trump, who was hedging it a little bit because from a legal perspective wanted to not get ahead of certain things here and didn't want to get anybody in legal trouble. But apparently it had to do with the suspect's father and the suspect's minister who in essence turned him in to police, allegedly. That's in all caps. Let's listen to the clip. Any updates on the suspect? Yeah, Can I always say, I think just to protect us all and so FOX doesn't get sued and we all don't get sued and everything else, but I think with a high degree of certainty, we have him in custody. Right? In custody. Everyone did a great job. We worked with the local police, the governor, everybody did a great job. You know, getting somebody that you start off with absolutely nothing. And we started off with a clip that made him look like an ant that was almost useless. We just saw there was somebody up there and so much work has been done over the last two and a half days. You know, it's amazing actually, when you start off with that and then all of a sudden you, you get lucky or talent or whatever it is. But yeah, we're, I think we're in great shape. The father went to a U.S. marshal who was fantastic, by the way. And the person was involved with law enforcement, but was a person of faith, a minister and brought him to a U.S. marshal who was fantastic. And the father convinced the son, this is it. And again, I'm always subject to be corrected. But I'm just giving you, based on what I'm hearing, they'll give you about much more active. I just heard about it five minutes before I walked in as I'm walking in. They said, looking real good. They have the person that they wanted, so. All right, well, this is, this is just fascinating. Let's bring in retired Navy SEAL officer, former enlisted Marine, along with scout sniper as well, Mike Sorelli. Mike, your reaction to what we're hearing? President Trump hedging it a little bit. Saying what? He's hearing nothing. I'm looking, I'm scouring, and by the way, if I have my glasses on, I'm looking down, I'm listening to you. I'm able to multitask here, but I'm also checking to see if we have any official FBI slash, any sort of agency that has come out and said anything. But. Yeah, we've got nothing official yet. Right. It's all still developing. And once again, I just want to be clear, I'm not doubting necessarily at all what President Trump's saying, but the fact that the way he is saying it, I think we all need to just take a step back, even he's taking a step back to say. Yeah, and then give me details. But we don't have anything official. Mike, go ahead. So, guys, if the news proves true, that is amazing news that we've got our guy. If it's true. The father and this minister, a man of faith, was ironic given Charlie Kirk was a man of conviction and faith in the appalling nature of the crime. A father and a minister turned him in. They most likely saw the photos, were appalled by what their son or this young man did, and turned him in. So they are still in a fact finding phase. They have to interview this individual. And you're right, let's temper, I hate to say excitement or resolve, but let's find out if indeed it is the person of interest. Yeah, scouring and just can't. There's just, there's nothing. There's not even. I've never seen an incident like this in my entire life where a president goes on a news program and makes a statement like that. And I'm, and I'm looking at news and I just keep refreshing and I put in suspect in custody, and there's just, there's nothing. Can I, can I just say real quick, Gina, don't you agree at this point, it's just kind of a freewheeling conversation. Don't you agree that. I mean, President Trump has to be right here, right. When I say it has to be right, has to be right. We gotta, I mean, if you're wrong, let's step back a little bit. Yes, he is. Hedging absolutely. And we want absolutes at this point. But he's also saying the information that he was sharing was literally passed to him as he's walking on the set. So he's probably gotten some sort of confirmation. But again, to be fair and to be legal, he's stepping back a little bit and hedging, saying, this is the information I'm getting. I'm still waiting for more confirmation. That's the implication of what we heard, Mike. But still, this is the information that I'm getting. And I'm sure more information will come out here in short order as this is a developing situation. But Mike, I'm curious, bigger picture. How important is an arrest? How important will it be for our country moving forward to get information about the motivation, about the process, what really happened? Because at this point we really don't have those details. And it seems to me that, that those details is what is going to ease fears and ease concerns and take some of the heaviness off of people's hearts. Well, I think the fact that one, if we did get him and we got him alive, we're gonna get some answers. The driver behind his ideology and his motives to take out such an amazing man, one of the most brilliant minds of our time, a father, a husband, and why he would did this and then trace his, his linkage back to, was he motivated by a certain ideological group, Is he a far left extremist? Which the probability is extremely high. And then there are real debates to happen of who we hold accountable. And the left got a pass after the failed assassination attempts on Trump and nothing changed. Guys, for, for Charlie Kirk, this is a turning point. This is a watershed moment and the left needs to be held accountable. And this is the, this is the peak, or this is the irony. They've called us fascists, they've called us Nazis. Now, you know, what is a, what is a true fascist group? Do they silence their opposition through murder? Not debate. They weaponize fear. And also it is the destruction of the rule of law, which we have seen for the past few years. They are the peak and the height of fascism. And you know, one of the things I would say is we can't keep these blinders on. We can't continue to look at the world through rose colored glasses, because if you do that and you, you try to push off that, you're not at war, you actually take more casualties. This needs to be addressed and it needs to be addressed decisively. I'm sorry, I'm chomping at the bit Here, because you say the left needs to be held to account, needs to be held accountable. What does that accountability look like in your mind? Well, I would go after starting with all the groups that are supporting attacks on ICE agents that are. That are supporting these violent protests, go after them to the full extent of the law. The thing is the destruction of the rule of law we need. And the Democrats have played this beautifully by taking district attorney offices with far left Soros backed district attorneys who come up with these policies of no cash bail. And in the case of the Charlotte killer, 14 prior arrests, which led to the death of a Ukrainian refugee, a young woman. That is unacceptable. If somebody is a repeat violent offender, you lock them up to the furthest extent of the law. I do believe in second chances, but I also have to protect the masses. If somebody is a threat to society, if somebody is spewing ideology backed by violence, we've got to find a way to remove them from society and lock them up. And I know that sounds like extreme language, but how many more Charlie Kirks are we going to suffer? How many more Charlie Kirks are we going to tolerate? Yeah, guys, I'm angered. I'm devastated for his family. I'm sorrowful. But I know my friends, my crew, mostly veterans that I grew up with and served and fought alongside, are angered by this. This is not the country we fought for. This is not the ideals of the American way. Yeah. Does it seem to you like they should have this suspect in custody by now? I mean, when you look at all of the different, you know, quotients that were present, you know, we've had so many threats. Everybody's been doxed. Charlie had a target. Everybody has a target. And yet, you know, again, we didn't sweep the roof. We didn't have any cameras, you know, people watching to see if somebody went on a roof just after our president was attemptedly assassinated, you know, almost assassinated, not long ago from the exact same situation. It just seems like there's just a lot of things that almost don't add up here. You really can't blame people for looking at what, according to that press conference last night, are bots online making allegations about a bigger picture here. You don't want to be a conspiracy theorist, but at the same time, just not a lot of this adds up. And if this turns out where they say this is, a lone guy, just one crazy guy. Oh, whoops. I just don't know if we're going to buy it again. That's a good point. In Gina, you brought this up in the previous segment about the security at the event. Let me say this. President Trump had a Secret Service detail, they conducted a sniper suite poorly. They had an outer cordon, they had a counter sniper at that event in Minnesota and they still got it wrong. They were able to take out that threat. Charlie Kirk is a private civilian with a private detail. The private detail was most likely working with the Utah Valley University Police Department. I was told that only six officers were at the event. So they didn't have counter snipers which is costly for Charlie to afford. They didn't have people on the roofs. This is a hard problem. But we also look at the. I've seen a lot of reports about this being a professional sniper. I actually disagree. The neck is what we call a low probability shot similar to the head. But snipers traditional, well trained military or police snipers are trained to go for the head or center mass. So if this was his point of impact, but I'm sorry, point of aim, but this was the point of impact, that's not a great shot. That said with a bolt action and it was a Mauser 3006 bolt action rifle, a 200 yard shot is not that difficult. So this was most likely an Internet shooter that also got their planning and preparation for the from the Internet to do a pre plant site selection, a preplanned escape and the fact that the FBI has them, this is phenomenal because they didn't have the security to initially conduct a massive sweep of the area. This guy got out of the area most likely. But they had 7,000 leads going through that catalog of leads, eliminating each one with diligence until they finally got their guy and hopefully that proves true here in the next few hours. Mike, we appreciate your perspective. Thanks for joining us this morning. It's obviously a busy morning of news. Let's bring in John Solomon on show the phone now as we continue to follow this latest news, President Trump saying that he believes that the suspect in Charlie Kirk's murder is now in custody or at very least has been identified and will shortly be in custody. John joining us on the phone. John, it's my understanding and our expectation of course that there will be a news conference here in short order, potentially as soon as 09:00 Eastern Time in which we'll get more information. What are your sources is telling you John? Well, 752 this morning before President Trump went on Fox News, we confirmed that a person of interest was detained and that they're preparing an arrest warrant. So we've known about this for about 45 minutes. We were monitoring it all through the night. As I said at the end of my show last night, they had identified someone that they were closing in on. They weren't ready yet to announce it, and I think they were trying to buy some time until they could safely apprehend this person. But we, we were able to confirm this morning around 7:52am that the a person of has been detained. He matches the description. There is some bio, biometric and other data that gives him strong reason to believe that this is their man. They're preparing a state arrest warrant. The first charges will most likely be state charges. The original plan was to do a news conference at 9 Utah time, 11 Eastern time. That might be moved up now that President Trump has put this out into the public realm. But it is true. These guys worked all yesterday, all last night. They were closing in. They knew what they were looking for. They knew without the name of the person where they thought this person was headed, and they were able to ultimately apprehend him. I don't get a sense that he's been very cooperative in interrogation yet. Not surprising, but I think you will see a lot unfold and what this person's connections are, why they thought he's the person, what evidence they found with him and what evidence led them to him. And I think that that is a major breakthrough. This is the way the FBI normally solves cases. It's that constant evidence fail and you just add it up until you get it. And right now they are. They feel like they may have their man. So we'll keep you up to date on it. We've been following this all through the night. John, you say may have their man. So what's the, what's happening here exactly? According to your sources, like we hear hedging from President Trump makes sense. You say maybe. Why do you pretty. President Trump's pretty firm. He said he's pretty certain that they got their guy. My are to be. The key is you have to meet a threshold in court. Right. And in court you got to go in Utah, you have to file an arrest warrant in order to say it's your man. And so they're filling that out, making sure a judge will approve it. It's just part of the judicial process. But the, the work on this case has been really, really solid. Good. Just evidentiary trail style. And there are, I think when people see the explanations today, they'll understand that video footage last night and why the gentleman was limping going in, but not limping Going out, why he was able to run, why he dumped a gun, why he had a screwdriver, because he was assembling and disassembling the gun. There'll be a lot of information that will put what we visually have seen with our eyes into a context that we can understand why they think. John? Yep. Does he have any, do you have any information from your sources about the father and minister being involved here that President Trump had mentioned? I don't. I know there were several. I know there were several cooperating witnesses that made this arrest possible. I don't know enough to say something. Public. I know some things a little bit, but not enough to report on yet. Public. I've always wanted to be careful and safe and not get ahead of the fact. But there's. There were cooperating witnesses throughout this that made this arrest very possible. John, we heard the news. John, we heard the news about the things that were written on. I was either the gun or on the bullet. What more do we know about that? There is some evidence on the inscriptions. I'm told that the original ATF document may have been a little bit more assertive than the actual evidence, is that some of these inscriptions are a little bit more vague as to what they are. But I do believe that at the end of the day there'll be some evidence recovered at the scene that has some hint of motive or certainly what the killer wanted us to believe the motive was. Now, sometimes the killer tries to throw people off the scent, right? So they make you think this is this type of ideology, it's something else, because they want to have time to escape. So we don't know yet. What I was told is that there are some in script on there. They were originally described in an ATF document as transgenderism and fascism. I'm told that it may be a little more vague when people see the words, but you know, that will be important evidence. What, what this social media footprint of this person is, what was on his computer, his phone, his laptop. All of that, all of that will be important evidence to understanding what motivated a person to take such a heinous action as he did. John, in my lead in to you, I teased that there is expected to be a news conference this morning. It could happen as soon as 9 o'. Clock. I think you mention it. Yes, it could happen again as soon as 9 o'. Clock. That's what we're expecting, potentially a little bit later. But the bigger point here, how forthcoming are you expecting FBI officials and local investigators to be? How much information Will they have to share at this point, given that this arrest, this detainment just happened? Listen, they've had a lot of information starting around 6 o' clock last night when things really started to come together. As I said at the end of my show last night, they were really zeroing in. They've had about 12 hours to process the information. They have tremendous forensics out of the FBI lab in Quantico. They have tremendous digital footprinting that they've done. They have a lot of things. I think they'll tell enough of the story for the American public to rest assured that they've got their guy and that there's no longer a threat and the general narrative, and then they'll say some things until they button up their evidence. This has been a very transparent investigation. I know it doesn't feel that way when it's only 36 hours out, but, you know, every time they detain someone, they immediately acknowledge when they said that, hey, they ruled that person out, they immediately acknowledge it. That's unusual in law enforcement, but what it does in the fog of war is it allows the defendant to know, hey, they don't got their guy. I need to be on the lam. And sometimes that forces action. They were very transparent with the release of the images because they believed that would help someone come forward. And I think that was probably an important development in the case. So there'll be some transparency how much they go into. And I think they'll be careful on the motive. Unless he's made some spontaneous admissions or if he's told the minister or if he's told a relative why he did it, there'll be a little more circumspect than that. But I think they're going to try what I was told this morning, they're going to try to convince the public that there's no longer a threat here, that they do have the person that pulled the trigger. And I think we'll see how that goes. I just wanted to kind of give a quick update. We heard President Trump talk about this on Fox and Friends. Then we have the one and only John Solomon, who always is working the case and has great sources and confirming a lot of this. I am now getting a text confirming as well that a suspect is in custody. I cannot give you the attribution based on my relationship with this person, but I'll just simply say that this is someone that we all can highly trust that a suspect was indeed in custody. So I just. There's no doubt they have their custody. There's no doubt they have the guy. Yep. Yep. Or the guy they believe it is. Listen, you always got to be open as a journalist to see what the evidence is, but they. They have. They. They were zeroing in on them starting around dinner time last night, east coast time. They worked all through the night. There was a great alliance between the federal, state, and local authorities. And. And I think when they lay this evidence out, there'll be a degree of confidence about why they think they have this person and where the case goes next. And we heard from the governor last night. They are seeking the death penalty here. Good. John Solomon, we appreciate your time. Thanks so much for your reporting and your updates on this particular story. Obviously, it is the big story of the day at this point. We'll continue to cover it. In fact, for more right now, let's bring in former Navy SEAL and FBI Special Agent Jonathan Gilliam. Jonathan, it's always good to see. See you. What do you make of this new information, this breaking information we've been sharing? Well, you know, President Trump says it then. I have a feeling he's pretty confident and he's a good source to have that. They have caught a person of interest that is most likely the person that they were looking for. What I don't want to see, though, is that they do what they did in Boston when they caught the second Sarnoff brother and they just started celebrating, say, we got the guy, we got him. I don't want to see that because I want the investigation to play out so that we can know if there was anybody else involved, because this guy may have been the shooter. There could have been other shooters that were in wait. There could have been a whole cell of people that were involved in the planning. I want to see that investigation carried out before they say it's over. Jonathan, what is the situation with the school right now? Are they still on lockdown? Have students gone home? I haven't heard anything about that. And the other thing I wonder if you know anything about is I've had a lot of trouble finding out, and I wanted to ask John this, but we didn't get to it. And you may not know is where were Erica and her children at the time of this? Were they back home in Arizona or were they in the stadium at the time? I think they were in Arizona at the time. I don't know for sure, but I don't think that they were there. I think that. So I can't speculate on that. As far as the school goes, the school should be on Lockdown until they find this individual. Because I believe that that individual was a part of the school. I think that the fact that he was able to get there to that venue and get on that roof in the amount of time that he did and take an effective shot and get out of there tells me that he was familiar with the school. And, and I think if that's the case, he's either a student or he works there. And so the school has to be thinking that this individual could be secreting themselves back into the school. So I think that that school, until this is over with, that things should be shut down until they know that this shooter, anybody involved with them is captured. David, looks like you're still working your sources, so I'll take the next question if it's okay with you, so you can continue to work your sources and see if we can get more information. Jonathan, you said something that I found very interesting, that the investigation should continue. We shouldn't be too jubilant until we've got all of the information. I think that is critical. How much information do you think the feds have at this point and where do they stand? Give me a percentage. In terms of really having fully completed this investigation, are we at 60%, 70%? With the arrest, where do you think the feds may stand? Well, I can't give you a percentage, but what I can tell you is that when they released those pictures in that video, that was a game changer. Law enforcement needs to learn how to do that quicker because we live in an information world now, and as technology advances, law enforcement has to learn how to advance. That's the problem. They get stuck in the wheat. That's not the way we do it type of mentality. And that has to change. So when they put that information out, you see how quickly this changes. Because if he's familiar with that area and the area is familiar with him, using the public as a force multiplier has to be something that law enforcement is doing faster. That's how they got Louis Luigi Mangione. That's how they're probably going to get this guy. So. So what I can tell you is that as soon as the pictures were shown, it went exponentially faster. And they got over 7,000 tips. And as those come in, they have to catalog them and then they have to clear them. And so that's why we got to where we are now. Jonathan, that's a good point. Go ahead, David, go ahead. Well, that's a good point because I just want to say we're 130 tips at 3pm yesterday, 3pm eastern, and 7,000 in last night. To your point, real quick on the timing of all of this. John Solomon had said that this was going on, that they were basically in the process of apprehending him around dinner time, or a lot of stuff was going on around, quote, dinner time. And yet the press conference happened last night with the FBI around. Let's see, it was about 10pm Eastern time after that. So not to get into the granular detail, but. But it's interesting. Like, they knew stuff was going on, but they had a press conference saying they didn't have anybody in custody and they wanted the public's help, even though something seemed to be going on before that. Am I reading that right or am I getting that wrong? Were they playing possum? I don't think that they were playing possum. I think what you saw is that when it comes to closing in on a. On a criminal that they're tracking, they can. They can give evidence out like this so that the public is more involved, but they can't give away everything they know because then that individual would move further away or would flee. So that's why we have these press conferences. And it's a tiptoe. But. And they were being. People were being critical because they didn't give a lot of information. But I think what they did give was vital. And it was vital enough where if they thought they knew who the person was, that it wouldn't cause them to flee completely. But anytime they give this information out, if they have an idea who the person is and they put this out there, they're risking this person then fleeing if they didn't have eyes on him. So it was a balancing act when that press conference occurred. So, Jonathan, I just have to ask, as I see this kid walking into this with a backpack, climbing up on the roof, I mean, you can go to a Charlie Kirk speaking event with a backpack. And we now know that, I guess, at least it sounds like, as factors are adding up, that he had the gun in there and a screwdriver to assemble the gun. At least that's what it seemed like John Solomon was insinuating. And so this is just common practice with security? Well, unfortunately, Dr. Gina, as somebody who does threat assessments all over the world, that's what my company does. I did over 1000 last year around the world. We go in, we look at the facility from the attacker's point of view, and then we coordinate with the venue security, which in this case, would have been the college police and the local authorities, if they're even around. And so if this was my venue and I was the security for Charlie, I would have insisted because I would have looked at it and said, this is where the attack could happen. And let's lock down that area, the high ground, and let's make sure that we have at least two law enforcement over over there from each corner. There were six cops there from that university. From my vantage point, they were all next to the stage. And that's typical. So the problem is threat assessments either aren't done or they're not taken seriously. And then these areas are left open for an avenue of approach. And as we saw this past week, somebody always wins the lottery. And in this case, this guy played the same cards as the shooter in Pennsylvania and the shooter in Florida, except this time he was able to kill his target. Jonathan, about 15, 30 seconds or so, we're expecting a news conference to happen here within the next 15 or 15 minutes or so from the FBI with local officials. What are you expecting to hear? And more importantly, based on your FBI special agent training, what questions do you still have that need to be answered today? My question is, how did he get on the roof? Because if it was wide open, then that's. That is on the shoulders of that university for allowing the roof to be open. But if he had some way to access this roof, then that means he knows somebody at the university or he works there. How did he get access to that roof? That I want to know who asked that question? Not that I think that would have been a trigger, but I want to know those particulars. Who were the people in the audience that were cheering and that were raising ruckus? Now, we know weirdos are going to show up to that, to these events, so you kind of have to take that with a grain of salt. But I primarily want to know where that guy was before the event, who he was talking to, and how did he access that roof. I think that's going to be something that, that allows me to say, okay, perhaps he did it on his own and the university was just incompetent and left the roof unlocked. But that is a big question for me. All right. I mean, there are lots of unanswered questions and David's been working his source of evolving, trying to cover this. Again, you see at the bottom of your box, folks, that is the news conference that we're expecting to start here in the next nine minutes or so, about 9 o' clock Eastern time is when we're hearing that it's going to start. Go ahead, David. You're saying, well, John Solomon had said that it was 9am Utah time. I'm trying to confirm that. So that'd be 11am Eastern. Now, having said that, maybe they're moving it up or maybe it is 9:00am Eastern. But John Solomon had said that it was 9:00am Utah time. But once again, John did say that. That definitely could be earlier. But, but so we're, I don't think we really know exactly when that press conference is. Can I say one other thing before I drop off? Go ahead. I just want to say that, you know, I know you all knew Charlie. I met him several times, did some things for him. He was an amazing guy. I'm not worried about where he is now. That gives me great solace and knowing that he's with his Lord and savior, Jesus Christ. But these things do not have to happen. Charlie did not have to die. This nation has to stop living in smoke and mirrors. Crisis management, security is a part of that, has to become something that we understand as a nation. I understand it as an expert and as an attacker. So why don't we start incorporating serious business? This is serious. Charlie Kirk was murdered. President Trump was shot and somebody was killed at a venue. We have to start taking this seriously and realizing that it's serious business and it's not rocket science. If that guy can get on the roof, somebody can stop him from getting on the roof, and this has to change. All right, Absolutely. So glad you said that. Jonathan Gilliam, thanks for sticking around. We appreciate it. Thank you. Thanks, John. Thank you. Let's bring in Congressman Burgess Owens, a friend of this show and actually in Utah's 4th district where this shooting happened. Congressman, thanks for being with us. My goodness, what a heavy and sad and disturbing and honestly angry week. So we want to get your reaction to the events of this week, but before we do that, kind of give us the latest on what you're hearing. I'm seeing here that it looks like it might be a 9. It looks like it's going to be a 9:30am Eastern press conference in Utah. So what are you hearing? What do you know? Good morning, sir. I'm thinking what everyone else is hearing, that they found the person suspect that they have in custody. And let me just say this. You know, we've all had an opportunity to in some way interact with Charlie. He was, it's hard to believe he's only 31 years old and yet he, he lived his life as we all would love to do as Christians, always talking about who we are, why we're there, and what he, what he did more than anything else. We talk about the idea of ignorant and free can never be. He was the example of how you fight that. That is talking, having conversations, being kind, having a temperance where people can see you having these very deep conversations, and yet being able to break through. Because when we talk, that's what happens. That's the power of we the people. When we talk, we do good things. And here we have what I consider just pure evil that has been rolling across our country for way too long. And I think this is a wake up. I have no idea. I mean, I have no doubt this is a wake up call, not only for many, many of us are older who've been through the process, but young people who were beginning to begin, beginning to get engaged, beginning to ask those questions. And they too are realizing this is not America. This is not what Charlie talked about. The vision of our country is. And so as tragic as this is, and obviously we know Heavenly Father has a perfect plan and we always, we never know how that plan rolls out in the long term. But in this case here, we're going to have, I think, a sea change in terms of our country, our culture and our young people and how they're going to be more engaged as we move forward, which we need at this particular time. Congressman, you must be pretty familiar with. Go ahead, Dr. G. I apologize. Thank you. No worries. It's a crazy day here in the studio. Congressman, you must be pretty familiar with this university, their system. You're also closer on the ground. You might be hearing more just from people who are on the ground. I just wondered if you can give us anything on the university, their reaction, are they still locked down? Why wasn't this roof secured? Anything you've heard there on the ground about how this happened that isn't being reported out here in the news? Yes, I'm very familiar with the university. Two of my girls graduated from there. It's one of the largest ones here. And in Utah, you have to understand the Utah culture. This is something we don't ever consider could happen. You have what, 3,000 young people out to enjoy themselves to have this conversation. So. And I'll actually be going to the university later on today for an event that I have been planning on getting done. It is, I think it's something that, again, we have to see what the security look like. But it's surprising because Utah, this is not what happens here. We're shocked by the fact that this kind of evil can be seen and done in this area. So we're doing the same. I'm doing the same as everyone else, just trying to figure out and understand what the latest is. I know again, as I mentioned, they have a suspect, which I'm not surprised. And we'll just have to see how it all falls out. But it's right next to my district. I go there quite often. Remarkable university, great leadership. Again, the values that we have here at Utah are seen there at uvu. So I'm just so sad that, of course, sad about the entire process, but sad that the universe is in spite of life like this. Also, Congressman, just want to reset the show really quickly. As we've been saying, we're expecting a news conference to happen here in short order as soon as 9 o'. Clock, David, saying that it could be around closer to 9:30 Eastern Time. That would be about 7 or 7:30 your time there. In fact, we had a video up earlier and guys, if we can put that video back up of the podium that was set up as reporters are now waiting to get more information. All of this coming after President Trump earlier this morning announced that a suspect was in custody. He was somewhat hedging, but let's hear from the president himself and then we'll talk on the other side of this. This is what the president had to say on FOX and friends about 30, 45 minutes ago. Any updates on the suspect? Yeah, can I always say, I think just to protect us all and so Fox doesn't get sued and we all don't get sued and everything else. But I think with a high degree of certainty, we have him in custody. Right? In custody. Everyone did a great job. We worked with the local police, the governor. Everybody did a great job. You know, getting somebody that you start off with absolutely nothing. It was, we started off with a clip that made him look like an ant. That was almost useless. We just saw there was somebody up there and so much work has been done over the last two and a half days. You know, it's amazing actually, when you start off with that and then all of a sudden you, you get lucky or talent or whatever it is. But yeah, we're, I think we're in great shape. The father went to a U.S. marshal who was fantastic, by the way, and the person was involved with law enforcement, but was a person of faith, a minister, and brought him to a U.S. marshal who was fantastic. And the father convinced the son, this is it. And again, I'm Always subject to be corrected. But I'm just giving you, based on what I'm hearing, they'll give you much more active. I just heard about it five minutes before I walked in. As I'm walking in, they said, looking real good. They have the person that they wanted. So, again, folks, we want to welcome you back to American Sunrise. Terrence Bates, along with David Brody, Dr. Gina, Congressman Burgess Owens joining us again for the show as well. Congressman, you just heard the president's statement there a little while ago. Again, a news conference expected to happen there in your state of Utah at any moment now. We'll take you there live. Once that happens, talk about the reaction in your community, because this has got to be a stain. It's got to be hurtful in your community. And unfortunately, people are now going to know your community there for this, not for the other great things that are likely happening. No, you're correct. And it really is unfortunate in that regard. But let me just, I guess, in a sense, say this hate, evil is everywhere. And we have a community here that we've always considered ourselves very safe. Some people come here, they enjoy it. They, they want to come back because they feel that way. But this is something that we have to recognize. We are being an attack. We have been for quite a while for those who hate our society, hate our culture. And Charlie stood for the right way to go about changing minds. Patience, temperance, love, confidence, intelligence, all the things that's really made our country the remarkable country it is. It's amazing. It's on the setting of a college campus. That is what they're trying. They're teaching there. They're teaching people how to have these conversations. They want people to have different thoughts, but yet come in a respectful way, talk about things. So we're going to get this back because this is, I think, a spotlight of the way our country can go, which is go back to basics, go back to what's made our country the country. It is having these conversations and also understanding that we are truly in an era in which evil is after us. And you take someone like Charlie, who, who he doesn't have, anybody knows him, he doesn't have enemies. He didn't have enemies because he's that kind of person that is confident enough about himself, he can listen and talk to anyone and still walk away and say, you know, let's just respectfully agree to disagree. That is the way America works, and that's what's happening. We should be on our college campuses. UVU is one of those campuses that teaches that and helps young people to understand that. So we're going to get back to that. And I think this is, again, a flashpoint to understand. We have to dig in, guys. Education, we have to focus on and get it done right, because we've been on the wrong side of this for way too long. And the result of that is the kind of evil we just saw a couple days ago when it's a very vulnerable, very open, very just a person who's talking, just talking is murdered in front of thousands of people. This is not the way America should be. And we all understand that. We're going to go in a different direction, for sure. I want to talk about the spiritual aspect of this for a moment, because you talked about evil, and of course, we know there's a spiritual warfare going on, but we always say spiritual warfare, and we don't really maybe explain it as well as we should. And for those that are not believers, they don't understand that realm, but there is a spiritual realm. And I'm getting to my question, which is simply this. I'm curious about where you think this emotion comes from of what we've seen with tens of millions of Americans this week. Why has this hit a nerve? And yes, for us here at Rav, we knew him. That's a nerve, right? He was 31. That's a nerve. He was being a voice for so many tens of millions of people. That's a nerve. But spiritually, this feels to me, Congressman, different. In other words, there's stuff that you can't quite place your finger on. And I wonder if it has to do with this realm of evil versus good. And when evil won for that split second, by the way, evil did not win. But for that split second this week, it brought people into something they couldn't verbalize, but they were feeling. And it was raw and it was emotional. And I believe. I'm curious to get your take on that. Well, what we are realizing, and this has been a conversation since President Trump came in, and we're beginning to see changes across the country, but we've been in spiritual warfare for quite a while. It's called Marxism. It's an ideology that hates everything we stand for. It hates God, it hates family, it hates business ownership, it hates property. All those things that has made our country a remarkable country. It is. And what Charlie was able to do was to articulate in a very calm and intelligent way and just to be engaged, and all these young people never heard these truths before. It begin to resonate and begin to be drawn to it. That is the greatest threat to evil. This country's been based on this concept of God, of becoming a more perfect union, of looking at each other inside out, not outside in. That is who we are. And we always drift in that direction. And we lost our pathway, not understanding that we are under attack. These Marxists have been at us for a long time. They go to our most vulnerable in these universities where we don't have protection. We have professors that come through and push these people out, hitting our nation. We're back now. And President Trump was really the linchpin in terms of our country, saying, okay, enough of this. We the people now want order. We want to have our faith. We want to have whatever that faith might be. We want to be in a position to dream and grow and have a legacy of our kids. That is what will happen in November. Charlie happened to be one of those factors that really made it happen by getting young people engaged. People that in the past have been told they don't need to be involved with politics. Just go out there and have fun and do whatever you want to do, and don't think there's a God. Well, Charlie's message was quite different. And now we have young people that are patriotic, they're loving our country, young men that understand what it is to respect others, to respect women and respect authority. All those things have made our country what it is. We're finally coming back, and we're going to look back and realize that he was, again, the major impactor in terms of this process. And his life is going to be, again, something that we will be talking about for a long, long time. Let me just say this one thing. I grew up in the time of Rush Limbaugh, when I made my transition to becoming Republican, because I listened to Rush Limbaugh every single day, and I would set my schedule up so I could hear him. That has now turned into me being a solid conservative with my family being that kind of conservative, conservative family and me representing a very conservative state. Well, that's what Charlie's impact is going to be multiple. Because he spent so much time with so many thousands of young people that listened and had engagement with him. And just imagine as they grow up now, they go out and get married like he asked them to. Go out and have a family, grow their businesses, get into the middle class, and more importantly, have the faith, have the spiritual connection to want to give back, make that part of your life. That's who Charlie was. And he didn't do it just for individuals. He did it in person with kids across this country, and those kids are going to grow up and understand what he stood for and want to emulate that. And that's what's going to turn our country in a way that we're going to be very proud as the next generations kind of come through and see the impact that he's had because of his life. I think you're right. I think you're right. Congressman, we've talked about the spiritual impact of Charlie Kirk's life. We've talked about the media impact that this assassination will have. We've talked about the political. I want to ask you about the practical, because at some point we're going to have to talk about this. I know as somebody that goes and does speeches for, you know, Christian women's organizations, you know, my books, whatever it is, like all of us sitting here do, Congressman, you're not no stranger to going and addressing crowds. I know people are canceling a lot of events right now, which is exactly what you don't want, because this is terrorism, right? This is exactly what the left wants. But I do know that there are some friends of mine who have canceled their book tours right now, for example. What are you going to do? What is the word among other congresspeople? How are we going to handle this going forward? Because. Because we can't all afford to have glass boxes around us and counter shooters, right? Counter sharpshooters up on roofs. What does this mean for rallies for just Congress people to go speak to their districts? Well, for those who have that faith, who have understanding of why we're here, it's not an accident. We're all here, guys, together at this particular time. It's for a purpose. I'm sorry. And I think now is our time to lean in. This is the time that we're here for a purpose. It's not an accident. Again, as I mentioned before, the Heavenly Father has put us here at this time, and these are things we have to go through when it comes down to do we have courage or do we have fear? If you have the faith that this is a country that's built on principle, there's a God that loves us and takes care of us and guides our direction and makes it. It's a perfect plan for all of us. So the question is, do we have that faith like Charlie did? Now, of course, understand that his faith led him to that particular point of courage, and he's paid the price for it. But it's also been an example for many of us that that price is worth it if you're making the difference in our country. We're fighting for the heart and soul of our nation right now. This is. These are very, very special times. We've seen a president who stood up and after being attacked, said, fight, fight, fight. Well, that's what Americans do is within our DNA. We are not those who cower. We're the ones that deceive. Now, first of all, we dream big, and then we kind of get into the freedom bubble. Sometimes we don't realize we're under attack, but once we do, we don't cower. We fight, we run toward the issues that we need to. So I think we're going to find even a stronger a will within Congress. You're gonna start seeing things that now that we're coming together, realize that this is important. Charlie's kind of been a linchpin and many, many different ways for many of us. So I feel more hopeful that we are going to get things done quicker now because American people realize, and by the way, let me say this, there's always going to be a fringe, there's always going to be a hateful group of godless people that want to destroy everything, but most of America is not that way. We are very good people on both sides. And when I say both Democratic people are really good folks, they just have been listening to the hard left and believing them. This is a point in which they realize they're going to sit back and say, wait a minute, how can this happen? I don't agree with Charlie, but how can a man, 31 years old, sitting talk with kids, how can this happen? And they're going to ask those same questions that we are saying, this has gone too far. Enough is enough. We need to stop this. And this is going to be those moments that I think we begin to have these conversations as a people that we've needed to have for so long. So just know moving forward, I feel more hope for our nation, more excited about the conversations we're going to have, the more education we're going to start having our college campuses now, because we're done. We're done with cancellation, we're done with intimidation, we're done with all that stuff that the hard left has been putting on us for so many, for decades. So this is a point in which we're going to look back and realize because of Charlie's life, because of his message, because his is way, we're going to go in a different direction and it's going to Change our country for the good. Congressman, I would miss if we didn't ask you real quick, you were emotional there in your answer at the beginning. Where did that emotion come from? What's going on? Tell us. I think a lot of it is, first of all, the moment we have now and see such a good person, something like this happening. But also recognize that the blessing that we have to be part of this solution at this time, I think Americans, anybody who's watching this just know it's not an accident. You're sitting here, you're hearing these conversations that we have, these emotions that we're feeling now because we're going to bring our country back. So know that this is a special window. And it began when we brought President Trump in and he put his team around him. And all of us now have been prepared through all these years to do what we're doing right now. It's not an accident. We're here to save our nation. So just lean into that, know that. And then do your very best to bring your talents out. Don't, don't. Don't let fear drive us. Don't let. That's what the left want. That's what the hard left wants. Godless. Let's take out our faith and lean in hard and realize heavenly Father is going to be there with us and give us, help us, allow us to take our talents, to make sure those who come behind us dream bigger than we've ever thought can happen and our country comes back the way it should be be. Congressman, if I can just very quickly, David, if you don't mind, because I think it's important to bring up as well, after Charlie's shooting the other day, there was a moment of silence. Speaker Johnson tried to have a moment of silence there in the House chamber. Some of your Democrat colleagues booed and yelled and showed in I think, most reasonable people's minds, a lack of decorations. Speak to that. Can you speak to the climate in this country that's being perpetuated even on the left, this climate of division, this climate that seems to lack compassion even for something basic as the murder of a man? You just used the right word, compassion. I say empathy. Let me tell you about our country I believe so strongly in. It doesn't matter what side of the aisle we're sitting on. We have a country that believes in empathy. We have that heart. That's why we serve the way we do. That's why we have charities that we lean in on. But at the same time, you're also seeing the heartlessness of a ideology that does not believe in God, that hates, that celebrates death and celebrates hopelessness. I mean, understand, we've seen this for a long, long time. Go to any city where people are hopeless, that are ignorant, can't read and write, can't get a job, and you have people celebrating that by continuing to continue to push that on. We're at a point now where good people are seeing this and realize there's something wrong when that kind of stuff can happen in Congress when something wrong people go online and celebrate a young man, 31 years old, leaving two kids behind and a wife. That's not who we are. So the empathy of our nation is what's going to kind of shine at this, this point. We're going to start having conversations now that we have not in the past because it's going to be a softening, a softening of for those who have in the past who kind of lean in that direction, realizing that's not who we are. That's not who I am. And I'll say this too, even on the right, we're angry, we're upset, we're tired of seeing this type of anger and hatred. But at the same time, we do still have the ability to reach out and have these conversations. We're going to get to the point again where we're talking more than ever before and the way we have to make the changes on these college campuses. The left understood decades ago. If you want to change your culture, go after most vulnerable, go at your K12 college. And we're going to change that. We're going to give our kids more hope, more education of our history and who we are. Our Christian foundation allows us to have the freedoms we have for all religions. This is where we're going to go now and we're going to. It's going to be a demand for it because of what's happened to Charlie and people realizing what a good man he was. He didn't deserve this. This is not who our country is. Because of that, it's going to be a linchpin for us for sure. No doubt about that. Congressman Owens, thanks for spending extended time with us this morning. We appreciate you so much and everything you've said. Thank you, guys. Appreciate it. God. God bless you. You bet. We're standing by for a press conference, an FBI press conference detailing that a suspect has been caught in the Charlie Kirk assassination. More coverage. Breaking is coverage after the breaking news from Real America's Voice. Welcome back to American Sunrise. We appreciate you being Here with us on this busy Friday morning, we want to recap some breaking news. President Trump says he believes the suspect behind the Charlie Kirk assassination is in custody. Here is the announcement he made about an hour ago. Any updates on the suspect? Yeah, can I always say, I think just to protect us all and so Fox doesn't get sued and 20, we all don't get sued and everything else, but I think with a high degree of certainty we have him in custody. Right? In custody. Everyone did a great job. We worked with the local police, the governor, everybody did a great job. You know, getting somebody that you start off with absolutely nothing. And we started off with a clip that made him look like an ant, that was almost useless. We just saw there was some, somebody up there. And so much work has been done over the last two and a half days. You know, it's amazing actually, when you start off with that and then all of a sudden you, you get lucky or talent or whatever it is. But yeah, we're, I think we're in great shape. The father went to a U.S. marshal who was fantastic, by the way, and the person was involved with law enforcement, but was a person of faith, a minister, and brought him to a U.S. marshal who was fantastic. And the father convinced the son, this is it. And again, I'm always subject to be corrected. But I'm just giving you, based on what I'm hearing, they'll give you much more active. I just heard about it five minutes before I walked in. As I'm walking in, they said, looking real good. They have the person that they wanted. So. And the additional information President Trump was talking about there is expected to come out at any moment. Now, there at the bottom of your screen, you see a video which is of a FBI news conference that's set to get underway here at any moment. We'll take you there live. In the meantime, we want to bring in former Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich. Governor Blagojevich, always good to see you, sir. As you take in all of this, the fact that we're hearing that there is a suspect now in custody, does that allow you to breathe a little easier or do you still have more questions that, that have, that are raising concerns, if you will? Well, no, there's a lot of questions about all of it and how it happened. And I think we can learn a lot from this, of course, but it's good to hear that it looks like they have the suspect in custody. Let me just say again, as everybody has said, anybody who's a fair minded Person who has the fundamental decency of a human being. How terrible I feel for what happened to Charlie Kirk. I had the opportunity to be on his podcast a couple of times. I met his mother and father at Mar a Lago. They came from Illinois, probably went to Wheeling High School. I'm familiar with that. I was the governor of the state. When I met his mom and dad, it was clear they were so proud of him and his accomplishments. When I think about my young daughters who are 29 and 22, and Charlie's generation, it's so nice to see the great work that Charlie has done. And that's his lasting legacy that he brought about in this new generation, this young generation that in so many ways has been contaminated by the things that are being taught to them in the schools that Charlie can mobilize, like he did through the colleges and the high schools, to essentially counteract those academics and provide a place for young people to. To actually embrace the fundamental ideals that make America great. And they are rooted in the Judeo Christian tradition and in our faith in God. And so, look, it was time for our father to call him home. God has his purposes and his plans, and Charlie was certainly part of his plans here. And I believe he's got a plan for him and that better world where I know Charlie is. You know, people of faith will also often say it's not about when you were born or when you died, but it's about what you do in that dash in between. What is Charlie Kirk's legacy in your mind? What does that dash represent for the world? No, I think Charlie is a. Charlie's legacy is a substantial one, essentially being the leading advocate for fundamental American ideals. You know, love of country, faith, family, opportunity, which is the American dream that's been so much a part of our history. Hard work of having a dream and pursuing that dream, starting something from nothing and making it something big. All of these things are the things that he did in his short young life, which are really remarkable. And so his legacy is, to his generation, in large part, an example of not just someone who can turn something from starting with nothing to make it a big, big success, but his legacy is, I think, again, the mobilizing of the young generation behind the fundamental ideals and values of America. And that's very important in times like these, because those very values have been undermined by the political left in America. And it's among the reasons why Democrats like me are disenchanted with the Democratic Party. It's a party that we no longer recognize Governor Blagojevich, we appreciate your time. Thanks so much for joining us and sharing some of your thoughts with us this morning. Thank you. It's nice to meet you, Terrence. Thank you. Likewise. Likewise. It's a pleasure. All right, let's get you over to David Brody now. David, good morning. Good morning, Terrence. We have some breaking news. It's been a break news of morning of breaking news. The Associated Press reporting the identity now of who this suspect is. I'm reading from the Associated Press. The New York Post also reporting this. But this is the Associated Press say the suspect in custody in connection with the assassination of Charlie Kirk is a 22 year old from Utah. That's according to a law enforcement official who told the Associated Press. Here it comes. The officials say authorities have identified the suspect as Tyler Robinson. The official was not authorized to discuss the ongoing investigation and spoke Friday on the condition of anonymity. That's what we have and that coming in literally within the last 60 to 120 seconds. Now we start researching and we'll get more information here at this press conference. Debates. Yeah. And as you see there at the bottom of your screen right under, right across David's chest there, that news conference is expected to get underway here in short order. We're just waiting for FBI officials, state officials there in Utah as well as local officials to take the podium and confirm some of what we already are hearing both from President Trump as well as other sources we do expect. And David, the moment they take take the podium, they will once again reiterate that name and hopefully give us some more information about Tyler, I think you said is his first name, is that correct? Tyler Robinson and NBC Tyler Robinson, everybody across the conservative liberal legacy media, everybody now reporting the name Tyler Robinson is the alleged suspect's name. Doing deep dives now checking my sources for more on that. Sure, sure. And we're expecting to get again, we're expecting to get more information on all of that here in short order. Jake Novak is also going to join us here in short order with a little bit more in fact. Do we have Jake, guys? Okay, we do have Jake right now. Jake, apologies to you, but as you know, it's breaking news and there's a lot changing. What more can you add to all of this? Well, you know, I think it's really telling that the this is a 22 year old suspect. I mean, obviously this is reporting from other sources, but so I'm not going to really go so much on the name. I'm not going to be looking up social media accounts with that person's name. But what we saw from the surveillance pictures and from the video is that I'm not surprised to see that it's a younger person. But I would just say also, look, I have a 22 year old child. You know, Gina has children in that age range as well. Folks, we have, you know, this is what Charlie Kirk's mission was, to use the term mission, and I use that word advice, to knowing that these young people in America have been turned against decency in so many ways. Again, I'm not this person could have a totally different story, but the fact that it's a young suspect, I think is our headline. We should really be considering that the person who shot President Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania, also a young shooter. This is our crisis in America and Charlie Kirk was trying to help fix that. So, of course, it's very sad in that way, in addition to this, the devastation and the atrocity of his murder. But that youth, that age is really sticking out to me. I'm sure it is to you guys too. And it plays right into everything we've been talking about from some of the storylines that have come out of this, which is that Charlie Kirk, we know, obviously made so many impressions and it's such a difference on the college campuses across this country. And we also have talked about the spiritual aspect of this, the revival generation. Many are calling Gen Z the revival generation. And then we talk about evil, good versus evil. I mean, it just feels like it's a confluence, like it's all kind of like there's a battle for the soul of this nation right now. And this just to your point, with the age of this person, it just makes you think that this is right in the thick of it all. Jake. Yeah, you know, you're right. I do hope that Gen Z becomes the revival, the resurrection of this country's spirit. But it's not going to come without casualties. There's going to be some difficult people in the road. You know, we learned this also from some of the people who came back from the Iraq war who had so many wounds from that. They were about that age when that war was going on. And we know that so many of them became great patriots in addition to, even though they were already soldiers, they became great patriots on a political level in addition to doing their service. But it didn't come without high, high price at some times. And what Charlie was trying to do and will continue and people will continue to do in his memory is not going to be easy, folks. It's going to be very uplifting. It's going to be that one of the highest callings you could ever have. But you're going to have people like this potentially again, if this is all true, that are not going to go along. And that's the risk we take. But that's why it's, that's why we call it war. You know, doing the work for God and doing the work for morality. It's not like if it were just a snap of fingers, then it would not be virtue. Jake, while I agree with you that the age of the alleged, and I think it's important that we say the alleged shooter here is of concern, the other thing that's of concern to me is this environment that we're in, this caustic environment. And again, at this point, investigators haven't confirmed the motive in this. But I think many people believe that what probably motivated this particular attack is Charlie's views and the fact that he was so upfront about it. And I think we all can also agree, Jake, that we're in this environment where if I disagree with you, it's not just an agreement to disagree, it becomes personal. And sometimes the personal, we've seen this, even with President Trump, leads to deadly attacks or at least aggressive and dangerous attacks. And that's what's frightening to me, is that we're in this environment. Yeah. And young people are much more impressionable. I mean, we see this also not even with just demonizing particular political parties or people like Charlie Kirk or President Trump, but just like the environment. You know, we have an entire generation of young people who went to school every day being told that the world was going to end tomorrow because of the environment because we, because your mommy and daddy were driving in an suv. What did you think that was going to produce? Did you think that was going to produce a bunch of peaceful, well adjusted children? It didn't. Greta Thunberg is just one of many people like that who have been radicalized by fear mongering, by people who had their own personal gains involved. I think that 90% of the politicians and leaders who say horrible things about Donald Trump don't believe a word of it, but they believe that they can get somewhere on it. Well, this is the casualty. Young people like this again. And as you're right, alleged, we'll have to see if this is true. Young people like this, though, who are your sacrificial lamb. You know, people think that child sacrifice went out 5,000 years ago or so with the pagans. It Didn't. It's all the rage again, whether it's transgendering them, whether it's using them as fodder, as cannon fodder in places like Gaza or something like this, where we indoctrinate our children for our own political gain. There's real sacrifice involved here, and I don't want to see it contained. Can I just do a quick social media public service announcement if you will? And maybe you guys will back me on this or maybe not, but I think you will. Excuse me, I'm fighting a little cold here. Look, can we be careful about what is on social media? I mean, that's obvious. We know that for a while. But for example, in this case, there were three different names given about who the suspect was. If you go on social media in the last 24 to 48 hours, they were all wrong. It wasn't any of those names. And so as we start to now Google or go on to, you know, X and other places and type in Tyler Robinson and everything, there's gonna be a lot of stuff that comes up. Some of it may be true, some of it may not. Can we just, as my dad likes to say, hold our horses here and just chill out on social media? And I'm not saying wait for the authorities to tell us what to do. That's not what I'm saying. Trust me. I don't trust them as much that I used to for sure. But I'm just saying on the social media front, we have to be careful, guys. We have to be careful. Agreed. David and Jake, I'd like to pose both of you a question because they're at the bottom of your screen. You're seeing that we're waiting for this news conference to get underway. Yeah, we're expecting it to happen at any moment. Again, we'll take you there live when it happens. We'll all listen to it together. But there's been conversation this morning, David and Jake, about what we expect to hear and the way the FBI has publicly handled this investigation and the information coming out. So, David, I begin with you and then, Jake, I'd like you to answer the question as well. What do you want to hear? What do you expect to hear from the investigators this morning? Well, I don't think we're going to probably hear too much right now, especially at this juncture. I mean, they're going to. I mean, after last night's 10pm press conference that I was pretty livid about at the top, I think they're going to hold it close to the vest. And there's a degree of reason behind that, for sure, 100%. You don't want to get ahead of your skis on stuff. But going forward, what do I want to hear? Well, I got a lot of questions that I want to know. I'd love to know how he got on the roof and what in the world was going on from a security standpoint. Well, I'll just. I've got a lot of other questions, but I'll just leave it at that. Just to say that I don't think we're going to get those type of kind of soul, not soul searching, but investigative questions about the FBI. That's not the story today, for sure. The story today is more about Tyler Robinson, Jake, Terrence and David. I can't guess what they're going to say, but I will answer your question about what I hope they're going to say. You know, if I would like to hear more details about what we're hearing in reports that somebody very close to the shooter, a family member, maybe a pastor, is the one who turned him in and was able to get this person apprehended, I want to hear about that because I want everyone to remember a name. You've all heard the name Ted Kaczynski. The Unified. Do you remember the name David Kaczynski? That was Ted Kaczynski's brother, who after the FBI made the difficult decision to publish the Unabomber's manifesto, which was a tough decision to make because it gave him publicity, David looked at it and said, that's Ted. That's my brother. And that led to his apprehension. And David Kaczynski is an American hero for having done that and not easy to turn in your own brother. And if that was the case in this story as well, someone who saw the picture and said, this is my loved one, or this is someone I know that person should be. You know, I don't know if they want to get their name out there. I'm not asking that, but I want to know about that, too. Yeah, I also want to know about the timeline. Real quick. Can I just say I want to know about the timeline debates, in other words, Wednesday at X time in the afternoon when he left the roof and he went down with that surveillance video where the last time we saw him was at a tree somewhere on campus. This. Where did he go after that? Because if his father, and this is what President Trump was talking about, the father minister had turned him in. So did he just kind of go home and like Wait a minute. If that's the case, that doesn't sound right, that he would go home right away after the shooting and then, or, excuse me, the assassination. And then what is It now, almost 48 hours later, they turn him in like he was there for two days or, or where did he go exactly between that time and late last night when apparently something went down? I just want to know more about the timing. Well, hopefully we'll get those answers here in short order. We're hearing the presser is going to start here within the next three minutes or so. We, of course, are watching it and we'll take you there the moment it does happen. Jake, appreciate you being here. Appreciate your perspective. Let's now bring in Dr. Gina and Donna Fiducia from, from Cowboy Logic to join this conversation. David, also here. Donna, good morning. Your thoughts about all that's happened today. Obviously, there's a lot to take in, so I'm just gonna give you a blank slate. Please begin to paint. Well, just a whirlwind of emotions this entire week for everybody involved. And I wanted to talk about. Our show was taped before Charlie's passing, so I want everybody to know that. And I'm glad I had this opportunity to talk about how I knew Charlie. Don and I met him when he was like 18 or 19 years old. Major General Paul Vallely, who was one of the generals who spoke to all. He was one of the FOX military analysts that I interviewed many, many times. And General Vallee and I and Don and Charlie were at this convention in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, and, and General Vallee said, you got to meet this kid. This kid is, you know, I guess they had contacted each other because of the West Point situation. We went out and we had lunch on the waterfront there, even back then. I want to interrupt you. Okay. I might interrupt you here, and I just want to give you a warning because people are stepping to the podium there. And so if I interrupt you, that is why, Go ahead, finish your thought. I apologize. No, I'm just wanted to put that on your radar. Go ahead. Well, I can see that. And you know, the problem, the thing was even back then, and you know, you meet so many people in the course of your life. He made an impression. This kid was going places, and you could see it. And it was amazing how many lives he touched. And you know what? I think the world did hit a turning point, ironically. And, you know, they say if you wake up the sleeping giant, you just be careful of what happens. You know, I noticed yesterday on social media the moment you silence a man with a bullet instead of an argument, you've admitted that your worldview is too weak to stand for the truth. I think that is so poignant at this point. Charlie was molding the next generation like Rush Limbaugh was molding our generation. We are heartbroken over Rush. We're certainly heartbroken over Charlie. And the behavior of the left is so reprehensible. I think that what's really amazing is how many Democrats are saying they're switching to the Republican Party over this. But Charlie was somebody who just built a legacy that I just don't think there's too many people out there that are going to be able to fill his shoes. But I think there's thousands of kids who he has touched and hopefully they will stand in. Stand in the gap, quite honestly, for what Charlie was doing. And I even said to Don this week, I think we've been deprived of a future president because that's what he was destined to be, in my opinion. He had everything to be President of the United States. And certainly a lot of people are saying that. Mike Benz even posted that. I totally agree. So, guys, on the. It's interesting, Donna, I'm looking at the reported Facebook page of his mother right now, who is actively deleting her posts as I'm talking to you. But from what I can tell of this suspect in this situation, his life looked incredibly normal. Like there's literally not a single red flag I can find. And this is with way too many years of background in psychology. I don't see anything that doesn't look normal. In fact, it looks almost like if you were to create a Facebook page of the perfectly normal American family, that's sort of what it looks like. It's sort of hard to believe. I mean, all of this is so hard to wrap our heads around, but it's so hard to believe how someone could be so radicalized. And, Donna, I just wonder, because you and I have had a lot of chances to talk off camera about our society and some of the horrible things we've gone through, especially with the J6ers and things that you and I are both really passionate about. And. And I just wonder if you think this might be largely a societal problem. Yeah. And unfortunately, only takes a few bad apples to spoil things for everybody. You gotta wonder if he was on medication. We've seen that with so many of the shooters lately. Obviously, what's going on with the whole indoctrination? What really got me, Dr. Gina, is how many teachers, how Many government workers, how many doctors were happy about this? And what does that tell you? Do you want to go to a doctor who is supposed to save lives? Actually happy about an assassination? This has been going on for decades. This didn't just happen overnight. And the fact that this kid allegedly is 22 years old to me speaks volumes because that is exactly who Charlie was targeting. And he's touched so many lives in a positive way. Unfortunately though, there are so many that you can't stop everyone, unfortunately. And so you have to kind of look back and I think this is a very revealing moment for our country. And quite honestly, it is a turning point. It is. Donna, thanks for sharing all your thoughts. Appreciate you being here. Of course. We're waiting for the press conference. It's a start any moment now. In the meantime, let's bring in Andy Ngo, the author of Unmasked Inside Antifa's Radical Plan to Destroy Democracy. Andy, thanks for being here with us. Excuse our manners here if we have to cut you in the middle for this press conference, but obviously you'd understand. Give us your thoughts going into the fact that we have new information this morning. A 22 year old from Utah, Tyler Robinson. And good morning. It's always for journalists like myself, a literal, literal race against the few minutes we have to find what information that might be online once a name is leaked and that information is pretty quickly scrubbed and it looks like that's happening as we speak. So I haven't been able to look into this name yet and from what I'm just seeing briefly online from other people posting on social media that the stuff has been taken down. But usually social media can provide somewhat an idea of maybe context of ideologically where a person may be. I don't know anything about this individual yet and I hope that soon, right after this interview I'm going to be digging into that. Sure, yeah. As I was saying, I did the exact same thing, Andy, and went immediately to look up their social media, found his mother's social media and they're removing it in real time and I'm trying to screenshot it as quickly as I can, just looking for any sort of indication of anything that looks shady or abnormal or red flag kind of stuff and really not seeing anything. This may, this will certainly inform the narrative on this story, but it'll leave us with a lot more questions that people like you will have to try to dig in and answer. Yes, I'm still very fixated on the alleged ATF leak of the internal memo that the rifle cartridges May have had inscriptions that were of political nature. CNN reported that there were multiple arrows. That was a quote. And I immediately thought of an antifa logo. We don't know that's actually what it is, but I'm. That's what I'm most curious about because that would be particularly most revealing about a motive. Andy, do you think that the FBI will go into that particular part of the investigation during its upcoming news conference? Obviously, it's not all been confirmed, but there are questions. I would imagine if you were party to this news conference, it would be a question you would pose. Are you expecting. Expecting to get those answers or confirmations from the FBI this morning? I am not expecting that at this point. I think based on the prior press conferences, they are basically releasing what little information they can as it comes out. The press conference that happened last night, for example, only had this video. The person ventures jumping off the building and escaping, and then a plea for the public to come forward. I imagine that since this information about unrest is so new, that that's probably the only thing that we'll hear. Andy, did it surprise you at all that I say it took this long? Maybe I'm wrong to say it took this long, or does this sound pretty normal to you? What's your kind of assessment of that? It surprised me in the sense that once we had images of the real person of interest following several false arrests, that he looked so young and there were, you know, this was. This didn't happen in the middle of a rural area where there are no cameras. This is a university campus. There was immediately a big law enforcement presence. And the fact that the person of interest is 22 years old and was able to get away from for days, that was surprising. And it spurred a lot of hypotheses online that maybe it was a much more professional operation. That remains to be seen. But that these, you know, felt agonizing in these hours that kept going by, and that, you know, it was false arrest after false arrest, and it seemed like hope was fading that we could get. We could apprehend somebody alive. Absolutely. Andy, we appreciate your time. Andy Ngo, joining us this morning here on American Sunrise. Thanks so much for your expertise and your perspective. Thanks, Andy. My pleasure. Well, ladies and gentlemen, we're standing by for a news conference that is going to happen. It's breaking news coverage of the very latest on the investigation into Charlie Kirk's murder. There's a live shot of the podium, and we're expecting FBI officials along with state officials there in Utah and local officials to answer our questions and to hopefully lay out the very latest in this case as a suspect has now reportedly been arrested. And we'll get more information, more breaking news coverage after this break. Breaking news from real America's Voice. All right. As we've been reporting all morning and now we have in the last just few minutes know that 22 year old Tyler Robinson was named as the suspect in the Charlie Kirk assassination. For more, let's bring in the host of America's Voice Live, that would be Steve Gruber. Steve, I want, I want to get your, your take on it. And I just had something here. I just wanted to, to kind of double check something, but I don't have it quite yet. But Steve, go ahead, tell us what your. Oh, I'm sorry, I realize a little scattered this morning. So what I want to hear at this FBI press conference which we're waiting for is the following. Was he captured or did he turn himself in? We're hearing that he turned himself in. So it was not like the FBI captured him like in a manner manhunt, I mean, like without the father turning them in. You know, I just want more information about that and a whole lot of other questions. Go ahead, Steve. You know, wasn't too long ago that there was a shooting on the campus of Michigan State University not far from where I sit today. And one of the things, the nagging question to me is how did he gain access to the roof? Right? That's been my nagging question from the beginning because usually roof access is restricted, very restricted. How did he get on the roof? Because, because obviously the exit was over the side of the building when he jumped to the ground. Right. So we know that. Clearly that's a question. And every college campus, every high school, every middle school, every school has strict security protocols for all the reasons we're very clear about. And so how did he gain access to that roof? That's my question. But what's sad about it, and this has been a gut wrenching two days for all of us. I knew Charlie, you all knew Charlie. And we're going to break this down. We're going to say where did this kid, you know, it looks like he went to Utah State University, maybe. I see a video here of him reading the acceptance letter online to a camera of some sort. Anyhow, why did this happen? Gene, I heard you remark during the break, looks like a remarkably ordinary family. Well then who turned this kid into a monster? Who turned a kid into somebody who wanted to shoot America because really by shooting Charlie Kirk you shot the Constitution. You shot free speech. You shot every one of us. By doing that, you put a bullet into freedom. Charlie Kirk was a good guy. He'd debate anybody he didn't agree with you necessary. But he would debate anybody and share ideas back and forth, forth. And he would get yelled at. He got death threats. And he knew he was talking, but he had the courage to go out there and talk about his Christian convictions, to talk about his belief in this country, talk about his belief in people. That's why I went there. He loved people, and they gunned him down because he was an American. And I think that's what hurts me the most, honestly, and it hurts me deep. I'm not going to kid you. I've been emotional. Yeah, you mentioned the roof and with a backpack, with a gun that was in pieces and a screwdriver. I mean, I guess there was no metal. Nothing. No metal detectors, no security of any kind, because you can't walk into a football game with that. Yeah, look, the security was suspect. But here's. Here's the question. Is any outdoor venue safe anymore? You've got nut jobs out there. Just call it for what it is. You got nut jobs out there. And he got access to a hunting rifle. A 30 odds. And here's. I believe that he. As sad as what I'm gonna say is, I believe it to be true. I believe he missed his shot, but fool luck gave him a fatal shot. I believe he was trying for a headshot, but a.30 06 sighted in at 100 yards, drops 8 inches at 200 yards. He was not experienced, didn't know what he was doing. I think he was trying to shoot Charlie Kirk in the head in front of 3,000 people. And he missed. But sadly, his miss turned into a fatal shot. And he stole somebody from us that he was not entitled to take. He stole something from his wife and his children. But I will tell you this, my friends, Charlie Kirk had more people hear him and see him yesterday than at any time in his life. He is bigger in death. His message is bigger and more powerful in death than it was in life. And that's little consolation today, but it's true. And the seeds that he planted across this country for Christianity, for freedom, for the Constitution, they will grow and they will bear fruit. You mark my words. You know what? We have a lot of questions. We're about to get some answers, so we'll wait and see. I will say this about what the social media side stuff out there looks can be deceiving. Looks can be deceiving. We don't know what was really going on. And hopefully we'll get some more answers. We're back in a moment. We will get to this press conference when it happens. Stay with us. Breaking news from real America's voice. Welcome back to American Sunrise. I am Emily Finn, continuing our breaking news coverage. Thank you so much for joining us this morning. It has been a rough week as we all mourn the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Let's continue with our coverage with Terrence, Dr. Gina and David. Terrence, incredibly heartbreaking, everything that we saw this week. And hopefully we'll have some more answers in just a few moments at that press conference. Yeah. And I think that's key. America needs answers. We need to find out more about this suspect, 22 years old. I'm not going to say his name. I'm not going to give him that sort of notoriety even though there's an argument to be made that the name is pertinent. But I'm just going to say there's a 22 year old suspect who is said to be in custody. He is from Utah. And we'll hopefully get some more answers at this upcoming news conference about him. I think there are also lots of questions to be answered about how he was able to gain access to a roof and ultimately shoot Charlie Kirk. Again, that's the allegation against him and then motive. I think many Americans deserve to know and are going to want to know what motivated all of this. So there are lots of questions. And David, you probably have many more. Absolutely. And if the father we're hearing obviously from President Trump and others, the father turned him in, there would obviously be a debrief of what, what any sort of motive may have been. So we should have at least I want to say preliminary some idea at the beginning as to what was going on inside his head to a degree. I'm not suggesting we're going to see a manifesto or anything today. I don't know what we're going to see. By the way, Gina, I understand that the three minute, there was a three minute warning about three and a half minutes ago. So we're any moment now. Gina. Yeah. Again, just looking over social media here and finding absolutely nothing. I mean, this family looked as normal as normal could possibly be. So it just really gives you more questions. You know, it doesn't look like this kid was from a bad family. He wasn't from a broken family. He wasn't from a fatherless home. He's really not fitting any of the categories. So it'll be interesting to hear what sorts of perhaps medicines he was on, if he was somehow indoctrinated. But I'm not seeing any sort of radicalism whatsoever. And a very, very, almost extraordinarily normal family, which is sort of hard for me to personally believe. I thought I was going to see something a lot more interesting. The only interesting thing on this page is that people have started coming in and saying horrendous things in the comments on the pages, but that's about it. David, if I can just add, you mentioned that about three and a half minutes ago we got a three minute warning. Probably about 20 minutes ago we got the first three minute warning and nothing has come yet. No one has taken to the podium, which says to me, as someone who has covered news conferences across this country, that officials are in the back, they are somewhere huddled up trying to make sure that they've got all their I's dotted, all their T's crossed and that everyone is on the same page and that everyone fully knows what is going on and the message that they are going to share to the American people. That would be my suspicion. Again, that's coming from a place of information. Having covered these sorts of things, you've covered many as well. Do you agree? What do you suspect is going on behind the scenes? Not only do I agree, you stole my line. Dotting I's and crossing T's, that's exactly what they're doing. And maybe to use an actors or, you know, kind of an actor term, I bet you there's quite a few rewrites going on as well. They've got to get this right off the bat. And that's crucial. And you know, Cash Patel knows that obviously being in media and all of that. So how they present today is part of this. It's not just about the facts. That's number one. Obviously there's a PR aspect, sadly, to all of this and that's important. Secondarily, maybe even third or fourth, but it's there. Yeah. Well, we have to say goodbye. We will see you all again on Monday morning. But continued coverage, of course. Coming up on Rav at War Room. Prayers go out to. To the Kirk family. Prayers for our nation, definitely. Hug your children, love your God, go boldly now, live the truth. This is an I Heart podcast.