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Well, with holiday shopping taking off and taking some present for many Americans, we start today's show with a snapshot of President Trump's attempts to tackle the big thing. Affordability. It's the big word. At the McDonald's summit, President Trump made note of the fact that his administration inherited a tarnished economy under Joe Biden and went on to express the fact that affordability should be our word, referring, of course, to the Republican Party. Foreign action implemented by President Trump had to do with signing an executive order which excludes some goods from tariff rates such as meats, tropical fruits and coffee. Now, that's key. It's an honest attempt to address the issue head on. Join me to discuss is Louisiana State Treasurer John Fleming, as well as tax attorney and chairman of Americans for Fair Trade, Steve Hayes. Gentlemen, thank you for being here on Black Friday. Hey, Steve. Delighted to be with you again, Steve. I mean, this is the word. Look, I think it's pretty clear at this point, ma'. Am, Donnie won in New York because he talked about affordability over and over again. It's also the same reason Donald Trump won in November of 24. He tapped into people's concerns over the future and the affordability of that future. Steve, let Me start with you. How critical do you think prices are going to be when we head toward the midterms? Very critical. If people, no matter how much they like some of the things he stands for, if they're finding it very difficult to feed their families, they're going to be looking for an alternative, period. Even if that alternative instinctively they know is not good for them. If they can handle something that's facing them today, they think they'll take care of the future in the future, but today they've got to eat and feed their families. So I believe the President is totally correct in pivoting more from foreign policy emphasis, even though he's still going to be very active there, to looking at how he can make things better in the US and part of that, obviously, is not only in how he addresses tariffs, but also in how he can cut through a lot of the bureaucracy that makes things 10 to 15 to 20% higher to do in America than they do in other countries. You know, if somebody can lower the price of coffee, they're getting my vote, I'll tell you that. John, let's talk about something serious though here. And that is young women, 82% of the women between 18 and 30, these Gen Z folks, they cast their balance from Mdani. If we cannot show, we collectively, those on the right cannot show young people that they have a chance here, that they can afford to buy a house or even pay the rent on the apartment and still have some money left over to go out and have a cocktail or whatever it is they want to do, real trouble is going to brew here because if Americans, like Steve said there, don't feel they can afford things, maybe they don't vote for the other guy. Maybe they just don't vote at all. And that's dangerous territory is, too, isn't it? Well, no question about that, Steve. And remember, we came off of the Biden inflationary period where prices went up dramatically, peaked at 9.5%. But incomes have risen very slowly. And Trump is really approaching this as, you know, fighting energy prices, trying to get those down, food prices, egg prices, all these prices. And he struggled with Chairman Powell of the Fed, who just is resistant to getting interest rates down, which really reflects upon mortgage cost and, and ultimately rental cost for people. And so affordability is so key here. But to turn towards socialism, in the case of New York City and Mandami, this is really a bad idea because look at every country that's gone that direction. Venezuela, Cuba, the Soviet Union, North Korea, they're all in abject poverty today because they took that leap into socialism. So the only way to get out of this is the free market and lower these interest rates. There's no question. But the flirtation with socialism is because we haven't educated our young people very well at all. I was talking to a guy here recently. I said, you know, have you ever heard of Chairman Mao? He goes, no. Have you ever heard of the Great Leap Forward? No. This is problematic, Steve, if we don't teach people that communism failed in Russia, in China, in Cuba, in Vietnam, every place they've been tried, and they say, well, we just didn't do it right or we need more of it. No, we don't. Venezuela was one of the wealthiest countries in the world 25 years ago. Today it is. It has people pouring over the borders into Colombia trying to escape that hellhole. I mean, this is what happens. A new socialism for the 21st century is what was sold to them. That bill of goods didn't age very well. Did. Never has. And John is totally correct. It's failed every place it's been implemented. If you look at what Mondami said though, in New York before he got elected, and then what he said the night of the election, they're radically different. He was talking about, he's a socialist only in a few little tiny areas. For the most part, he believes in the free market and he believes in people producing and all of these good things and having the ability for them to do it. And then once he's elected, sort of like Fidel Castro, he revealed who he really was and is. And I think he is going to be, maybe not by the midterms, but certainly within, for the next four. In the next four year term, he is going to reveal the real faults of what he's doing. And I think you're going to see a great city imploding even further because of the policies he's doing. And apparently the governor is going to back him up to some extent. Well, she said to a point she's going to back him up, but she said there won't be any free buses. He wants free buses. He wants rent control, he wants government grocery stores. He wants to replace the police officers with social workers. If I'm a social worker in New York City, I'm like, no, thank you. I'm not going into a domestic violence situation just armed with my little book of positive affirmations. I think I'm gonna skip that, John. I think it's a demonstration of how bad this is by the number of People that are leaving New York right now, the number of people leaving California, people that are leaving Illinois, and the list goes on. The states that are going more and more socialist are hemorrhaging population every day, aren't they? Certainly. And like Steve says, a little bit of socialism is like a little bit of pregnancy, right? You being just a little bit pregnant, you can't be. You're either all socialist or you're free capital. And actually, we in Louisiana, of course, I'm state treasurer of Louisiana and candidate for U.S. senate. We would love for the people of New York who want to come to a capitalistic economy to join us in Louisiana. We've got jobs and we've got companies for them. If you don't like the socialist haven in New York City, come on down to Louisiana. We'd love to have you come on down. The water's fine. All right, so let me ask you about this, Steve. The Great Society, LYNDON Baines Johnson, 1965 and all of those programs. We're about 25 or $30 trillion into that. Poverty rates have not been greatly impacted. Homelessness continues to grow in America. Our great cities are not in great shape, that's for sure. And if you look at the national debt, you take away 25 or 30 trillion dollars in what I consider to be throwing good money after bad. We'd be in a different place as far as our national debt goes, wouldn't we? Well, we've been 100% different. I mean, we look back at 1965 and everyone could have. Not everyone, but almost everyone could afford a home. And I'm talking about people that worked in the malls who were getting a minimum wage almost, they could afford a home. And you look at what's happened with this benefit to America, you've gotten a lot of the people who were in the middle class being crunched down, and even upper middle class being crunched down. But you don't have a corresponding rise in people who were in poverty before. Yes, many of them have big screen TVs, but they don't live effectively any better. Because what we've done is we've done what happened in communist countries. We have compressed people down to a medium which is far below what it should have been had they been allowed to grow in the same way we were growing in 1965. So, like you, I look at Lyndon Johnson as actually a villain in the story. Because a lot of our problems, I think, can be traced to what was perhaps well intended. I'm not sure about that. But an abject Failure in the way that we have handled our government and our spending since that time. Yeah, and poverty today looks different than it did in 1965. Poverty today comes with SNAP benefits. I have no problem with that. But it also comes with a lot of other benefits. Poverty in America, John, is very different than poverty pretty much everywhere else in the world isn't. It comes with a lot of benefits. And the question then becomes, how much can we pay? How much can we afford at $37 trillion and growing fast before we just absolutely run out of money and the whole country crashes? Well, as a nation we want to take care of our poor. We do believe in a safety net. However, we don't want to turn a safety net into a hammock. And that's often what happens here, particularly under the Biden administration where benefits were going to able bodied people who could work, but they didn't have to work because they were enjoying those benefits. And we just cannot afford it with a 37, $38 trillion debt. And, and remember that it's America where the middle class was actually created. And you're seeing these socialist havens as New York City. And in California the middle class is evaporating. All you have is the wealthy, elite, liberals, and then you have the poor and everybody else is leaving and going elsewhere where they can make a living and actually purchase a home. All right, here's the last question, Steve. I mean, both answer it. What has to happen between now and the midterm elections to convince young people to have a shot in this country that they can afford that house, that can afford that car, they can afford to go on a vacation, whatever it might be? What has to happen? Well, if you're asking me, it's going to be very tough to make that kind of a change in six months. But what they need to see is hope. They need to see that there is going to be a way. And I'm not sure that the 50 year mortgage makes sense, but they need to see there is going to be a path to where they can afford that house. And they also need to be educated more. And I think we really need to pound it in. What happens when you do rent control like in New York? What happens to the quality of the homes? And when you bring it down, yes, you can live in a place, but it may have problems that haven't been fixed in 15 years. And so we need to educate people, Steve. But I think the President's going to have a tough time turning around what has happened over the last five years between now and the midterms. But I think he's going to make some progress toward it. We'll see what happens. John, 30 seconds to you last word. Yes. When President Trump took office, there were two things he needed to do to revive our economy. Number one was to pass the one big beautiful bill that brings back bonus depreciation, that cuts taxes, that renews expiring tax cuts and prevents tax increases. And number two, get interest rates down. And he's been arm wrestling the Fed chairman, Powell on that. And if Powell will begin to work with the president, get those rates down, I think before the midterms, we could actually see an accelerating economy. All right, gentlemen, thank you so much for being here. Greatly appreciate it to both of you. Thank you for joining us here today on Black Friday. Thank you, Steve. All right. We'll take a break and be right back. Tired of spills and stains on your sofa? Wash away your worries with Anabe Annabe is the only machine washable sofa inside and out where designer quality meets budget friendly prices. That's right. Sofas start at just $699. Enjoy a no risk experience with pet friendly stain resistant and changeable slip covers made with performance fabric experience cloud like comfort with high resilience foam that's hypoallergenic and never needs fluffing. The sturdy steel frame ensures longevity and the modular pieces can be rearranged anytime. 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They want to bring peace to Gaza through his 20 point plan, the UN said yes. President Trump has also mediated on other conflicts through the use of trade, an effort that seems to be turning results from other countries that want to be in the Oval Office and negotiate better. Joining me now to discuss this, retired Air Force Colonel Rob Manus. Colonel, nice to see you today. Let's start with the most recent deal here, a 28 point plan for peace between Ukraine and Russia. Both would have to give something up here, but it looks like this just might happen. What are your thoughts? Yeah, it sounds like there's positive movement in the right direction. You know, of course, the rags like the New York Times have been publishing articles the last couple days about it saying it's just the Russian talking points and those kind of things. But you know, there's also reporting that Zelensky is ready to come back to the table to talk about the plan to that he walked away from in Istanbul in 2022. And that's very much like what the Russians have been asking for all this time. So maybe some common sense is about to take place and the president has finally gotten through to both sides that everybody's got to give up something in order to get to peace and stop killing each other. Well, what do you think? Is that going to happen? I mean, look, Putin, Donald Trump met with Putin in Alaska. You know, the left went crazy on that as well. They go crazy when he talks. Look, sometimes you got to deal with bad people to get good results. I mean, that's true no matter how you look at it. You look back to 1972, as I do, Air Force One landed in Beijing and the president, Richard Nixon, met with the biggest mass murderer of the 20th century, Chairman Mao. And at that very time in history, you probably know this, there were 310,000 Chinese soldiers on the ground helping the Viet Cong kill Americans. And yet we went there to try to establish a relationship. Sometimes you have to deal with bad people to get good results, don't you? Oh, absolutely. And you recall in his first term, he went to see the North Korean leader, Kim Jong Un. And although Kim did not accept what he offered him, he offered him a great pathway to huge prosperity for his people and ultimately freedom. Of course, those tyrannical authoritarians don't like the freedom part, very much so. He turned him down. But Mr. Putin is no longer the head of a communist country or a dictatorship, so to speak. You know, I mean, he did get reelected in some fishy circumstances, but Russia itself has come a long ways from the Soviet Union. And I think he's looking for a way to get a good deal out of this, for one, for his country economically, from that perspective and to really settle the issue of which is vital to Russia, the issue of Ukraine, and it's what is called its near abroad, that it is always safeguarded very jealously for a thousand years or more, not just since the Soviet Union existed. That area was settled and the creation of what's called the Rus. The Russian people started right there in Kiev. So they have a big vital interest at stake. And I think the president of Russia wants to get this done. But unfortunately he still holds most of the cards. And he can just keep grinding out the artillery and the infantry and the tanks and the drones probably for as long as he needs to until the Ukrainians are out of people. Grinding it out. I think that's exactly the right term because I think when that thing started back in 2022, most of us thought it might go a week or two or three at the most. But grinding it out is what it's turned out to be. The Russian army didn't turn out to be what I thought it was going to be for sure when that thing first started. Here we are three and a half years later, it's still grinding away. Let me ask you one other conflict going on and President Trump's willingness to meet with people. 21 strikes, I believe on drug boats so far in the Caribbean and eastern Pacific. 88 casualties so far in this real war on drugs. But now Donald Trump says he will meet with Maduro. What do you make of that? I think all of this movement for all of the military assets that have been moved into the area have been the build up to where Donald Trump could get the window open to talk with Maduro. Forced open. And that's what all this force has been about, moving it down there. And you know, striking the boats is not just a show of force. Obviously we're killing people and destroying assets. And they're drug assets that come into this country. I don't care which drug it is. They come in and it causes overdoses. It kills Americans. And we have to continue to do that no matter what Maduro does. But if Venezuela will become a freedom loving, Western style democracy again and walk away from this communism that Chavez and Maduro and this narco terrorism backed government that Maduro's running now, they could become the richest country in the Western hemisphere, if not the world again because they have more oil than everybody. But as long as it's continuing and Maduro stays in place, they're going to continue down this road and we're going to keep doing what we're doing. And eventually we will have to take some further more aggressive kinetic action in my opinion is what I think they're leading up to. But I don't. The President doesn't want to do that. He's the President of peace, wants to be known as that, wants to give Maduro opportunity to opt out from his illegitimate position as the head of the de facto cartel led government now in Venezuela. And everybody around the world recognizes he's illegitimate. He knows that. And it'd be easy for him to walk away if he could get some guarantees for his and his family and his team's safety. Colonel, I only got about 20 seconds here, but one more thing. On the whole narco drug terrorists and these networks we. What about Mexico, Sheinbaum? The President of Mexico says absolutely not. Would we allow the Americans to help us here? But look, in order to tackle the drug crisis, you've got to take it to where the drug crisis is. 20 seconds, last word to you. Well, the Fentanyl that kills between 70,000 and 100,000Americans every year comes through Mexico. That's where China sends the precursors. It's manufactured there, gets smuggled in. I have always advocated that we use our special operations forces that are on our southern border to go after those targets. And if the Mexican government won't cooperate, they're going to have to figure out how to live with it. Colonel Manus, always a pleasure and always enlightening, sir. Thank you for being here as always. Thank you Steve. Happy Thanksgiving. Happy Thanksgiving. We'll take a break. We'll be right back on America's Voice Live. There's nothing like sinking into luxury. Anabe sofas combine ultimate comfort and design at an affordable price. Annabe has designed the only fully machine washable sofa. From top to bottom, the stain resistant performance fabric slipcovers and cloud like frame duvet can go straight into your wash. Perfect for anyone with kids, pets or anyone who loves an easy to clean spotless sofa. With a modular design and changeable slipcovers. You can customize your sofa to fit any space and style. 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Vince Eads says this, Steve, we all hear about these illegals getting $3,500 a month in benefits. Free housing, free housing, free, free, free. Well, I'm a single white male with four stage lung disease. How is that? I cannot get disability. I went to the store yesterday, barely afford bread. Someone was in there with two shopping carts full of groceries. I'll give you one guess how she paid for all of that. That's right. Over $700 worth of food. I have stage four lung disease, denied disability and can barely afford bread. I'm down to about 95 pounds and literally starving every day. Not sure how much time I've got left, but starving to death with a nasty disease, Not a pleasant way to go. P.S. please make this make sense. Vince, I'm doing my best. My heart cries out for you, brother. It does. And so we're going to say a prayer for you here. The family of Rabs. Say a prayer for Vince, would you please? He needs some. Some hope today. Casey Brandow writes this. As a senior citizen, my biggest concern is property taxes. They've doubled since the pandemic and going higher again this year. I live in Maine. We're definitely on the skids here. Look, property taxes have become a big issue for folks, especially older folks. You paid for your home. You paid off your mortgage, did the hard work and the government still wants to take your house. If you don't pay the taxes that they raise every year, that's a problem. That's why in Michigan there's a movement afoot to end property tax altogether with an initiative that'll be on the ballot next year. We hope. John Debrezhnyk that's as close as I can come, John. Doing the best I can. Me and my wife are on Obamacare. I'm retired, won't be able to get Medicare until August. My wife is going to get Social Security in March. She'll be 62. Our insurance is now at $400 a month. It's going up to $3,400 a month. When we got on Obamacare because she had a pre existing condition. She's not on disability. There's no way we could pay that much for insurance. Again, this brings me back to send the money to the people. That's the proposal there. Send the money to the people. Make the insurance companies bid for your business. We've got to be able to do better. Hope Nawrocki she has this for us. Where were all the screeching Democrats in mainstream media when the Biden administration caused the inflation problem? Now they want to blame President Trump and his administration for not fixing it fast enough. If it weren't for double standards and the left would have none. I agree with that. Remember inflation went over 9% during the Biden administration. They're doing their level best to get it back. But come on folks. Takes a little bit of time. Have some faith, would you please? Michael Carriage writes this As I surveyed the endless discussions on the merits of 30 versus 50 year mortgages, the point that keeps getting overlooked is glaringly obvious. There was a time when all loans, auto, mortgage, et cetera were predicated on the principal of simple interest. This meant that with each payment a fixed portion of the principal went down. The banks conspired to institute the concept of amortization where they would profit by front loading the interest to prolong the prepayment debt. So the issue is not the length of the mortgage term, but the amortization process which was instituted to become legalized loan sharking by the financial institutions. This is the real issue. If mortgage loans were to go back to the simple interest loan payment models, well, things would be better. Home ownership and mortgage payoffs would accelerate and people would own their homes sooner and not pay three to four times the amount of the actual original cost. It is loan sharking and legalized theft, period. I've illustrated this fact to everyone that this amortization scheme must end. Advice to all mortgage interest as a tax write off over 30 years as a joke. You own nothing until you fully own something. So make mortgage payoff full ownership a priority one issue, not a 30 or 50 year bleed out. You know what? I don't know because I'm not a banker. I don't know because I'm not a finance guy. So I need some other folks out there. Send me an email. Steveduber.com Tell me if what he just explained there is accurate and right. I want to fact check that to make sure that we're on the same page. If it is true. Well, we need to change some rules and don't we? Brenda Gloria writes, you asked. My main bill is my electricity in Texas. It's gone up about 30% plus everything I have has gone up. Groceries have not gone down. Gas has gone down 225 the other day. But diesel has not. Watch you all the time. Well I appreciate that. Thank you so much for that. And room for one more here. Aggie L. I was hoping you would talk about the movement in Michigan to collect petitions to end property tax. I just did. Now I'm doing it again. It is called axmitax.org by the way if you want to find out more. Axmitax.org started by business owner Carla Wagner, property tax is the biggest threat to seniors being able to stay in their paid for homes. I agree this is an issue for seniors being forced to pay property taxes that are raised when their Social Security other fixed incomes remain the same. All right, great mailbag. Really appreciate you guys doing it. SteveGruber.com send me those notes. I'll read them right here from time to time. Don't go anywhere. This Black Friday edition of America's Voice Live will continue after a brief break where I'll bring on Ben Berkwam to discuss President Trump's success at the border. Stay tuned. We'll be right back. Time for a sofa upgrade. Introducing Annabe sofas where designer style meets budget friendly prices. 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It seems like our beliefs are constantly under fire. That's why it's important to partner with organizations that share your beliefs. America's Christian Credit Union is committed to standing firm in our faith, serving the community and bringing you the best financial services. Now, with their elite checking program, you can take your banking to a whole new level. With up to 4% APY on checking balances under $15,000, early pay, exclusive loan discounts, built in cell phone protection, ID theft monitoring, everyday shopping discounts and more. ACCU works alongside Christians nationwide to advance customers work because your money should reflect your mission. Are you ready to bank with purpose? Visit americaschristiancu.com elite to learn more and make the switch. Early pay depends on when your employer sends your paycheck. We can't guarantee early direct deposit. APY equals annual percentage yield. America's Christian Credit Union is federally insured by the ncua. I'm Rodney Williams. Travis and I'm Travis Holloway. Welcome to the Wealth Break. Let's be honest, building wealth doesn't look the same for everyone. It's not just about saving. It's about investing. It's about navigating systems that weren't built for you, embracing your hustle and relying on your community to create something bigger. And that's exactly why we created the Wealth Break. We made something different, something more human. It's not just another financial podcast. It's a conversation about real life, real struggles and real wins. We're here to talk about the journey. You're hearing from people who've broken barriers, found creative ways to succeed, and learn to build wealth on their terms. Whether it's the first time homeowner, a gig worker, or someone turning a side hustle into a six figure business, we're bringing you their stories. And we're not stopping at success stories. We're breaking down the realities. Like what it means to take risks, how to navigate failure, and why resilience matters. Because wealth isn't about money. It's about creating a life where you can thrive and help others to do the same. So if you're ready for a podcast as much as about people as it is about money, you're in the right place. Listen to the Wealth Break podcast on the iHeartRadio app. Making the holidays magical for everyone on your list. It's no small feat, but with TJ Maxx, your magic multiplies with quality finds. Arriving daily through Christmas Eve, you'll save on luxe cashmere, the latest tech toys and more. So you can check off every name on your list and treat yourself to a holiday look that'll turn heads. Now you know where to go to make all that holiday magic. It's TJ Maxx, of course. It's shaping up to be a very magical holiday. Time is precious, and so are our pets. So time with our pets is extra precious. That's why we started Dutch. 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We don't really know now that we have a president who allows ICE to do its job. We're seeing the deportation of illegal aliens with ties to trend Aragua, the cartels, other violent gangs from around the world. Yet we're seeing it all. Join me now to discuss this further. A man who's been on the front line through it all. Real America's Voice correspondent and the host of Law and Border, Ben Berkwam. Ben, nice to see you. And happy Thanksgiving. Yeah, Happy Thanksgiving. And he has risen. We're heading into Christmas. I don't, I don't go shopping on Black Friday with black shirts. So that's, that's my black. That's my Black Friday celebration. I'M shopping on Black Friday from my computer, as I usually do. I just, you know, I just stay right at home. Ben, there's no argument that this president has changed the trajectory of where we were headed as a country. Some people put it as high as 20 million, some people put it lower. We don't really know that's the problem. We don't know who came in our country during the Biden administration, do we? No, we're starting to. And this is what's crazy about this, Steve, is I'm riding out there with ICE and Border Patrol and the people were picking up. It is shocking. The illegals that Joe Biden let into our country that were basically waved in with no background checks, and now we're finding out many of them. You know, I've had red notices from Interpol on some of these guys that were picking up that Joe Biden let into our country. Thank God you talk about Thanksgiving and things to be thankful for. Thank God President Trump won the election and it's not Kamala Harris in there. We would be dead as a nation. And in some ways, I still, you know, I still wonder, how will we ever be able to turn this around when you have these activist judges directly assaulting President Trump and attacking his administration and trying to undo all the good things he's doing. But again, thank God for President Trump. Let me point out something, because people have a preconceived notion about who the illegals are in this country. The truth is they come from all over the world. It's not just from Central and South America. And one headline caught my attention. You probably saw it too. This woman from Moldova accused of fleeing the United States because she had beaten a woman and tortured her, beating her with electric lines and so forth, with electric lines, and then threw her off a nine story building to kill her. Right. I mean, this is one of the people that was let into our country illegally. And thank God for ICE for finding people like this. Right? Yeah. And every single day we're out, I'm riding with these guys. And that's what we're finding. We're finding this was their original target from the beginning, going after the worst of the worst. President Trump and Tom Homan. That's what they tasked ICE with. Because the numbers are so vast. You say, you know, how do you deal with this? It's kind of like eating an elephant. You have to do it one bite at a time. In this case, they're going after the worst of the worst. They're trying to get the worst of the worst. And as they're doing that, they're getting obstructed at every turn. You have these activists across America trying to protect these illegals. I had one case where we were surrounded by activists. We had an illegal alien in a house who was known, a known gang member, cartel member, had been convicted of multiple gun charges, was thought to be involved in multiple homicides. And we were not able to catch that guy because the leftist activists that surrounded our car and obstructed ICE's operation. So this is happening every day. Every single community across America has violent, criminal illegals in their neighborhoods. And it's President Trump's job and this administration's job to go get them. But sadly, every day, they're getting obstructed by traitors in our own country. It's really. It's really a shame. And that's my big thing. If we can change one thing this year, I don't do New Year's resolutions, but I will say, if we can change one thing going into this new Year, it's to actually see prosecutions against these traitors in our country. Well, that's true. And we are going after the worst. The worst, because, look, I don't know if you ever reverse course on 20 million people, whatever the number is, Ben, I'm going to go with 20 million in the country illegally. I don't think you ever get all the way there. You might get part of the way there, and. And hopefully we'll find people like this horrible murderer from Moldova and others. Gang members, drug dealers, child rapists, all of it. But do we ever get all the way back to where we started when Joe Biden first stumbled into the Oval Office? No, I don't think so. And honestly, look, I look at this pragmatically as President Trump probably looks at it as, well, you do everything you can, and every decision you make, you think what's best for the American people. And at some point, the dollars and cents, you get rid of the worst of the worst. But this really comes back to, we have to, in 2026, elect enough. Get rid of enough rhinos in the House and elect enough MAGA Republicans in the House and the Senate to actually make some of these things permanent. Because if we don't do that, four years from now, we could be back in the same boat or in a worse situation. So that's really what this is about. It's about making permanent changes. So we've stopped the bleeding. President Trump did that. Border Patrol has done that on the southern border and the northern border. But it's all about making these changes permanent and eventually getting rid of that wound that's been created in our country. But no, you're right. I don't think you ever get rid of all 20 million of them. But what you do is you try to prevent the most harm possible. I agree with that. Look, there's some proposals being put forth that they can never be citizens, but they can be here legally if they've been here for some extended period of time and they have not created a problem or committed a crime. I think those are conversations we're going to be forced to have because otherwise we're going to be chasing our tail for a long time. Ben, I'll give you the last word. Yeah, we could have those conversations at some point, but it's premature to have them now. People always start with that. I say we start with deporting everyone we possibly can and then once we get everything secure and we prosecute the traders that allowed it, then we can have those conversations. Fair enough. Ben Berkwam, he's been on the front line of, well, he's been from here to Central America to South America and back a few times. Law and border. You can catch it right here in Real America's Voice. Ben again, have a great Black Friday. We'll talk again soon. Thank you, Steve. There you have it. Ben Burkwom, everybody. Don't go anywhere. This Black Friday edition of America's Voice Live will continue after a short break. Time for a sofa upgrade. Introducing Annabe sofas where designer style meets budget friendly prices. Every anibe sofa is modular allowing you to rearrange your space effortlessly. Perfect for both small and large spaces. Anabe is the only machine washable sofa inside and out. Say goodbye to stains and messes with liquid and stain resistant fabrics that make cleaning easy. Liquids simply slide right off. Designed for custom cut comfort, our high resilience foam lets you choose between a sink in feel or a supportive memory foam blend. Plus our pet friendly stain resistant fabrics ensure your sofa stays beautiful for years. Don't compromise quality. For price. Visit washablesofas.com to upgrade your living space. 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Accu works alongside Christians nationwide to advance God's work because your money should reflect your mission. Are you ready to bank with purpose? Visit americaschristiancu.com elite to learn more and and make the switch. Early pay depends on when your employer sends your paycheck. We can't guarantee early direct deposit. APY equals annual percentage yield. America's Christian Credit Union is federally insured by the ncua. I'm Rodney Williams. And I'm Travis Holloway. Welcome to the Wealth Break. Let's be honest, building wealth doesn't look the same for everyone. It's not just about saving. It's about investing. It's about navigating systems that weren't built for you, embracing your hustle and relying on your community to create something bigger. And that's exactly why we created the wealthbreak. We made something different, something more human. It's not just another financial podcast. It's a conversation about real life, real struggles and real wins. 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It's been a little over a year now since the nation elected Donald Trump to clean up the mess left behind by Joe Biden and his far left posse. No question about that. In less than a year, President Trump has made great progress toward making America great again. From securing the border to tackling crime and even ensuring America's dominance on the world stage through the use of tariffs, not to mention the multiple wars that he has helped bring to an end. Despite what the Democrats may say, President Trump has put America first every step of the way as best he could. And I believe he will continue to do so despite continuous backlash and apoplectic reactions from the far left. Here with me to discuss this is the president of the Conservative Caucus, Jim Pfaff. Jim, nice to see you here. Good to see you, Steve. Now, the truth is that Donald Trump's numbers are a little softer as far as popularity goes and approval numbers go. But it's because it never ends. The relentless attacks on Donald Trump, the relentless court actions, the relentless headlines, and the way they do things on 60 Minutes or wherever where they make it look like he says one thing and does another. You know, at the BBC this past week, they had to fire some people because of the way they edited deceptively a conversation with Donald Trump. It just never ends. There's a constant barrage of propaganda that's anti Trump from the mainstream media. True, isn't it? That's absolutely true. He's been living under that for well over 10 years now. And the reason that it's happening is because all of the foundational structures that had grown in Washington up until the time in 2015 when he announced he was going to run for president. They're threatened by him, so they, they need to destroy that because they also know he's potentially effective. And, you know, net net, Donald Trump's been winning that battle. He just has to keep fighting it. And I think that there's actually some good times ahead. He's smart enough to understand what's taking place and determined and principled enough, frankly, to not let it get him down and stay on track. And of course, he might be the one person that can take the constant barrage and kind of let it just run off his back. Doesn't matter. Look, let's talk about health care for a moment. In this country, he's done a couple of things that are pretty important. He made a move with Trump Rx to bring down prescription prices. So important, in fact, that Mark Cuban, an open Trump hater, said, you know what? That's a pretty good idea. And brought his company to the table to help Americans have much more affordable prices when it comes to prescription medications. He lowered the price of insulin. He came in to lower the price of GLP1s Weight loss drugs to help people that are battling obesity and all these things. And so those are all great steps forward that I think will be noticed. And then he put forth this idea that I think is a great idea for a conversation. Let's stop sending all this money through the Affordable Care act that gets taken by the insurance companies to make them fat and happy and give it to the American people in health savings accounts. I think this is genius. You're going to see some legislation from the Republicans in short order on this that is going to say, look, let's move this forward and give Americans the choice of what health insurance they want. I think it's going to make the insurance companies compete. It's going to return the free market to American health care. I think, again, it's a great conversation to have your thoughts. Yeah. And I think with that, they need to move forward as well with aspects of Andy Biggs, congressman from Arizona, his repeal of Obamacare. Listen, it's the season for signing up for healthcare on healthcare.gov which I was taking a look at myself, and I'm like, I'm totally fed up with that thing. Let me go find a private plan. But you remember and realize that those plans have to conform to Obamacare. When government gets in the middle of these things, they make it more expensive and much worse to manage. So it's great to see this idea that Barack Obama built up that the hospitals and the insurance companies would be able to take a massive cut off the top of everyone's premiums and not have to compete in the free market, keeping their prices down and working with other inputs to keep the prices down. Obamacare made us a social medicine nation. It did. And I'll say this, I'll Compare it to EVs when your business plan is based on federal government subsidies. That's no business plan. That's just pilfering from the American taxpayers. And I didn't realize until recently, I guess I had a misconception here. Only 7% of Americans use Obamacare. 7%. I mean, we can do better. All the money we spend for that. Come on, we can do better, can't we? Oh, we surely can. Every dollar that goes into a government program or is expended through a highly regulated part of an economy is always inefficiently used. If you leave it to individuals to make the decisions that work best for them, they never get it perfect either. But the kind of waste and outrageous misuse of that money is highly reduced. And if you have a short term problem with that, you can fix it in the long run by making other choices. Choice is removed whenever government is involved. And that's one of the great. That's the reason for the great failure of Obamacare. And even if we went back to exactly where we were before Obamacare, that really did have some of its problems and was kind of regulated heavily, it still was far more efficient because people were making their own decisions every day. You always do better when you get to make your decision at the micro level right where you're at, than have someone from Washington, D.C. make that decision for you. Completely agree. I got less than a minute here, but I want to get you to weigh in on this, ma'. Am. Danny won in New York City by connecting with the idea of affordability. Republicans should not ignore that. Conservatives should not ignore that. It is going to be a major issue come the midterms. I'll give the last word 30 seconds to you, Jim. Absolutely. Listen, Donald Trump has had fantastic success in the international stage and we're all happy for it. But right now our entire focus is affordability. The Fed chairman that he appoints is going to be really important. And then we got to keep working. And hopefully Republicans will work with him to reduce government that is imposed upon all of us. Let us choose and the prices will go down. There you go. It's always about the free market. That's what powers this country. Less government interference, more personal choices. It can only help us in the long run and the short run too. Jim, thank you for being here. Thanks, Steve. All right, after the break, we'll have a story that reminds us of how wonderful America is. Plus answers to our America's Voice Question of the Day where do you like to shop? If you do for Black Friday deals, where do you go? Are you holding on to your money this year? We'll talk about it after the break on America's Voice Live. Time for a sofa upgrade Introducing Anabe sofas where designer style meets budget friendly prices. Every anibe sofa is modular allowing you to rearrange your space effortlessly. Perfect for both small and large spaces, Anabe is the only machine washable sofa inside and out. Say goodbye to stains and messes with liquid and stain resistant fabrics that make cleaning easy. Liquids simply slide right off. Designed for custom comfort, our high resilience foam lets you choose between a sink in feel or a supportive memory foam blend. Plus our pet friendly stain resistant fabrics ensure your sofa stays beautiful for years. Don't compromise quality. For price, visit washablesofas.com to upgrade your living space. Today sofas start at just $699 with no risk returns and a 30 day money back guarantee. Get early access to Black Friday now. The biggest sale of the year can save you up to 60% off plus free shipping and free returns. Shop now at washablesofas.com offers are subject to change and certain restrictions may apply. Do you feel like your values are being challenged right now? It seems like our beliefs are constantly under fire. That's why it's important to partner with organizations that share your beliefs. America's Christian Credit Union is committed to standing firm in our faith, serving the community and bringing you the best financial services. Now with their elite checking program, you can take your banking to a whole new level with up to 4% APY on checking balances under $15,000, early pay, exclusive loan discounts, built in cell phone protection, ID theft monitoring, everyday shopping discounts and more. ACCU works alongside Christians nationwide to advance God's work because your money should reflect your mission. Are you ready to bank with purpose? Visit americaschristiancu.com elite to learn more and make the switch. Early pay depends on when your employer sends your paycheck. We can't guarantee early direct deposit. APY equals annual percentage yield. America's Christian Credit Union is federally insured by the ncua. I'm Rodney Williams. And I'm Travis Holloway. Welcome to the Wealth Break. Let's be honest, building wealth doesn't look the same for everyone it's not just about saving. It's about investing. It's about navigating systems that weren't built for you, embracing your hustle and and relying on your community to create something bigger. And that's exactly why we created the wealthbreak. We made something different, something more human. It's not just another financial podcast. It's a conversation about real life, real struggles and real wins. We're here to talk about the journey. You're hearing from people who've broken barriers, found creative ways to succeed, and learn to build wealth on their terms. Whether it's the first time homeowner, a gig worker, or someone turning a side hustle into a six figure business, we're bringing you their stories. And we're not stopping at success stories. We're breaking down the realities. Like what it means to take risk, how to navigate failure, and why resilience matters. Because wealth isn't about money. It's about creating a life where you can thrive and help others to do the same. So if you're ready for a podcast as much as about people as it is about money, you're in the right place. Listen to the Wealthbreak podcast on the iHeartRadio app. Making the holidays magical for everyone on your list. It's no small feat, but with TJ Maxx, your magic multiplies with quality finds arriving daily through Christmas Eve, you'll save on luxe cashmere, the latest tech toys and more. So you can check off every name on your list and treat yourself to a holiday look that'll turn heads. Now you know where to go to make all that holiday magic. It's TJ Maxx. Of course. It's shaping up to be a very magical holiday. Time is precious, and so are our pets. So time with our pets is extra precious. That's why we started Dutch. Dutch provides 247 access to licensed vets with unlimited virtual visits and follow ups for up to five pets. You can message a vet at any time and schedule a video visit the same day. Our vets can even prescribe medication for many ailments and shipping is always free. With Dutch, you'll get more time with your pets and year round peace of mind when it comes to their vet care. What makes America wonderful? We do it every day with the hope of putting a smile on your face. Even on Black Friday. That's right. Today's story comes to us from Delran, New Jersey, where a police department acquired a new canine member that isn't. Well, not your typical breed, to say the least. While Most think of canine units as being German shepherds or bloodhounds. The Delran Police Department set their sights on Ron. Ron's a pit bull who is only days away from being euthanized. However, thanks to a non profit. Unbreakable. That's right for bull. You got it. And the number on pd, Ron had a second shot at life. Good job, Ron. After rigorous training and recovery, Ron was officially sworn in and given to his handler, Patrolman Tyler Mallya, who noted his apprehension. Given Ron's breed. An uncertainty that was well quickly dispelled after Ron's nose helped a narcotic search in a neighboring town, which led to two arrests. Nice start. Talk about a great rookie year. Finding a purpose is always a wonderful thing. And the kindness. The kindness shown by the Delran Police Department towards Ron the pit bull remind us what makes America wonderful. Do not judge a book by its cover. Well done, Ron. Getting those drug dealers off the streets, I love that. All right, so here's your question. Where do you like to shop for Black Friday deals? Is Black Friday. It's not what it used to be, right? I mean, they're not all crowding stores and running over old people anymore, right? I mean, I don't do that anymore. Kim Spielman Hayward writes Home Depot. It's like a candy shop for me. Kim for me too. Laugh out loud. It is Home Depot. I'll take one of these. Two of those. Just the tool belt, please. Anyhow, Nancy Lovey Smith writes Amazon. It's convenient. The three oldest grandkids get money. The three youngest. I still shop for their parents. Well, they're out of luck. Tough times. Sorry. Mom, dad. Yeah. You got your stuff when you were kids. Chelain. Are she guy. We never have bought into that madness. You know, Chelain. I agree with you on that. The madness. I never went to those stores ever. I'd watch the videos though. Very entertaining. Yeah, look at it. They just tackled an old woman trying to get a television set. What is wrong with people? Lisa Lattea Menards is my favorite store. Their sales are great. And Amazon. I can find some good deals there. You can? Sharon Hoover writes Too Far Away Parking for me to go into the stores. I've got my Christmas shopping done. Besides ordering food items to ship from catalogs and give money to grown children to treat themselves well. You know, if you need to send some more money. I'm just kidding. Dale Melusi writes, I don't. Even though it brings out the best in people. I opt out. I did. I opt out. Phyllis Running higher. I absolutely do not shop on Black Friday. Not even online. It's not worth it. Well, I. I see how some people feel that way. Boba. J.T. boba. Is that right? Is that Boba? All right. Steve Gruber's QVC news station. Okay, I appreciate that. Is it qvc? Whatever it is. Robert Kowalzik. Menards. Menards. That's two votes from Menards. One for Home Depot. Home Depot. You have to pick up the pace around here. You're going to be out class here on Black Friday. Did you go anywhere today for Black Friday? I personally didn't. I've been here working for you, Pat Downing my couch. You know, Pat, with modern technology, it's kind of hard to beat, isn't it? You just sit here and go, I'll take this and this and this. You know, a few years ago, I had a guy tell me, nobody will ever have groceries delivered because they want to go to the grocery store. Well, that's proven not to be true, isn't it? I think he was often that I couldn't tell you. I mean, I love going to the grocery store. I think the greatest thing in America is to go to a supermarket. The big markets where you can get milk and butter and meat, and then you walk the other side of the street and you get dog food and cat food, and then you go get your paper products, and heck, if you want, you can go buy tires. I think that's America encapsulated. The free market, everything under one roof. It's remarkable. Something to still be thankful for after yesterday. God, it's a great country. What a country. I love this country. I do. That's why we fight for it here at Real America's Voice every single day. Whatever you do for Black Friday, be safe out there. Be courteous, open a door, say thank you. It doesn't get done enough. Say thank you to people that are working for you and be kind. How about that for Black Friday? Just be kind. We appreciate you being here, as always. We do. My friends, I hope you leave with a smile on your face and we'll talk again very soon. God bless America. This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.