AMERICA'S VOICE LIVE WITH STEVE GRUBER - DECEMBER 1ST, 2025

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Podcast Summary

Podcast: Real America’s Voice
Episode: AMERICA'S VOICE LIVE WITH STEVE GRUBER - DECEMBER 1ST, 2025
Host: Steve Gruber (with guests Rick De la Torre, Tom Willis, David Zier, Dr. Ben Tapper, David Jones, and Eric Bolling)
Date: December 1, 2025

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Episode Overview

Broadcasting live from the Pentagon, this special episode of America’s Voice Live dives into a series of high-stakes domestic and international issues shaping America’s present moment. Host Steve Gruber leads incisive discussions on:

• The U.S. response to escalating instability in Venezuela and the broader hemisphere,
• Suspicion and criticism seeded into the military chain of command,
• National Guard deployments and crime in Washington, D.C.,
• The ongoing drug crisis and blurred lines between narcotics and geopolitics,
• The political climate in Maine, and
• A health segment highlighting approaches to flu season and the skepticism around vaccines.

The show brings on a range of guests—former intelligence officers, active and former military personnel, gubernatorial candidates, and medical experts—sharing perspectives from the heart of power and the front lines of current events.

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Key Discussions & Insights

1. U.S. Military, Political Trust, and Venezuela [02:47–14:12]

Guest: Rick De la Torre (Former CIA Senior Operations Officer)

• Military Orders and Chain of Command:

  • De la Torre and Gruber express deep concern about public statements from certain U.S. Senators questioning the chain of command under President Trump, arguing that such comments undermine discipline and morale among frontline troops.
  • De la Torre emphasizes the danger of encouraging troops to “question lawful orders” without citing specific unlawful actions, arguing that Congress members won’t bear the consequences:

    “They're not the ones who are going to get court martialed... lose their security clearance.” (Rick De la Torre, 05:57)

• COVID-19, Military Mandates, and Consistency:

  • Gruber and De la Torre highlight what they see as a double standard; during the Biden administration’s vaccine mandates, critics of chain-of-command discipline were silent.

• Venezuelan Drug Operations and National Security:

  • De la Torre underscores the seriousness of narco-trafficking from Venezuela:

    "It's a theater of politics. They don't focus on the harm and danger—the fentanyl crisis creates... tens and tens of thousands of Americans die every year." (Rick De la Torre, 07:33)

  • Intelligence points to these craft as overtly illicit, not fishing trawlers or merchant vessels.

• Geopolitics Beyond Drugs:

  • The Maduro regime has created a platform for Russian, Chinese, Iranian, and transnational criminal influence within the hemisphere, potentially destabilizing the region:

    "Maduro... created an aircraft carrier in our hemisphere for Russians, Chinese, Iranians..." (Rick De la Torre, 09:34)

• Maduro’s Off-Ramp and Indictment:

  • The Trump administration allegedly offered an exit deal; Maduro refused, insisting on global asylum, a pardon that was “a no.”

    "He missed the boat. He should have taken the deal from Trump. I don't believe this president is the type that's going to offer that again." (Rick De la Torre, 13:23)

2. National Guard Deployment and Crime in DC [17:45–23:25]

Guest: Tom Willis (Active Duty West Virginia National Guard, US Senate Candidate)

• Positive Impact on Washington Crime:

  • Gruber cites dramatic stats showing homicides, sexual assaults, and carjackings at historic lows since National Guard deployment (81 annualized homicides—lowest in 40 years, carjackings down 75%):

    "Why would anyone be opposed to the National Guard coming into a city... to make the streets safer?" (Steve Gruber, 18:49)

• Personal Toll & Refugee Policy:

  • Willis speaks with emotion about the loss of Specialist Sarah Beckstrom and the ongoing recovery of Andrew Wolfe, both West Virginia Guardsmen. He critiques the resettlement of Afghan refugees, linking it to the recent violence and blaming political opponents for supporting the program.

• Chain of Command and Political Intervention:

  • Willis joins previous guests in criticizing Senator Mark Kelly for sowing doubts:

    "That just sows seeds of doubt... you're messing with a very trusted confidence between the military and the American people. And now you're running down the trail of sedition, in my opinion." (Tom Willis, 22:56)

3. Breaking News and Pentagon Media Access [25:41–31:12]

Guests: David Zier (RAV Correspondent), Steve Gruber

• Strikes off Venezuela:

  • White House spokesperson Caroline Levitt confirms a second strike was authorized off the Venezuelan coast—a "change of narrative."
  • Discussion pivots to whether escalation against drug operations is justifiable as a war, with acknowledgment of the cartels' global reach and the complex roles of adversarial nations.

• Media, Access, and Security at the Pentagon:

  • RAV celebrates its new office in the Pentagon and its presence among newsmakers, with plans for direct questions in official press settings.

    "We have a place here. We have an office now here inside the Pentagon as Real America's Voice to bring you news from, from the newsmakers themselves directly." (Steve Gruber, 31:12)

• Sensitive Information & First Amendment:

  • Zier notes care must be taken to protect classified information while maintaining press freedom.

4. Economic Outlook and Maine Politics [32:23–36:44]

Guest: David Jones (Maine Gubernatorial Candidate)

• Affordability & Economic Confidence:

  • Despite claims of an affordability crisis, recent Black Friday sales signal optimism. Jones credits the Trump administration for renewed consumer confidence and lower prices (fuel, eggs, etc.), contrasting with the previous inflationary policies.

• Critique of Green Policy and Government Overspending:

  • Jones derides the “Green New Deal,” high taxation, and “non-performing” wind projects.
  • Accuses current Maine Gov. Janet Mills of corruption, mismanaged contracts, and enabling illegal marijuana operations involving Chinese nationals.

• Reform Platform:

  • Pledges to create the "David's Office of Government Efficiency" to audit and reform state expenditures.

5. Health Segment: Flu Season and Vaccine Skepticism [38:05–42:53]

Guest: Dr. Ben Tapper (Director of Epigenetics, The Wellness Company)

• Personal Health & Immunity:

  • Gruber and Tapper both reject annual flu shots, advocating for a focus on personal health and immune resilience instead.

    "I've never had a flu shot. I don't get the flu. I take care of my body. I think these flu shots are worthless." (Dr. Ben Tapper, 38:42)

• Key Recommendations:

  • Emphasizes supplementation (especially vitamin D), clean nutrition, and readiness with at-home medical kits.
  • Warns against annual “fear mongering” about new disease threats:

    "Fear is the fire that fuels the furnace of disease... there's always a fear mongering campaign every single year." (Dr. Ben Tapper, 41:26)

• Preventative Health Approach:

  • "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure." Advises prevention over reaction and distrust of Big Pharma’s motives.

6. Reflections on RAV's Mission & Media Expansion [45:15–50:18]

Guests: Steve Gruber, Eric Bolling

• Establishing a New Media Presence:

  • Gruber and Bolling highlight RAV’s expansion through new offices in D.C.'s major power centers (Pentagon, White House, Capitol Hill)—a move meant to disrupt the dominance of legacy media and allow more direct questioning of authorities.

• Value of More Media Scrutiny:

  • Bolling lauds RAV’s “light” shining into the establishment and provides a tongue-in-cheek take on the challenges facing Republican candidates and party politics.

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Notable Quotes & Key Segments

• On sowing doubt within the military:

  "It's absurd when they don't mention any orders that are unlawful... they've basically just created a scenario... that sends a message that they're against this administration..."
  — Rick De la Torre [03:53–05:51]

• On growing international threats via Venezuela:

  "Maduro... has created basically an aircraft carrier in our hemisphere for Russians, Chinese, Iranians and other adversaries..."
  — Rick De la Torre [09:34]

• On National Guard crime reduction in D.C.:

  "24 homicides in 108 days... would be the lowest rate in 40 years... carjackings are down 75%. Why would anybody be opposed to this?"
  — Steve Gruber [17:45–18:49]

• On chain of command doubts:

  "Now you're running down the trail of sedition. In my. In my opinion."
  — Tom Willis [22:56]

• On healthcare approach:

  "Fear is the fire that fuels the furnace of disease."
  — Dr. Ben Tapper [41:26]

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Timeline of Major Segments

• [02:47]–[14:12]: Venezuela, Military Command, and Political Dissent (Gruber & De la Torre)
• [17:45]–[23:25]: National Guard and Crime in Washington D.C. (Gruber & Willis)
• [25:41]–[31:12]: Pentagon Media, News Briefings, and Drug War Scope (Gruber & Zier)
• [32:23]–[36:44]: Maine Politics and Economic Sentiment (Gruber & Jones)
• [38:05]–[42:53]: Flu Shots, Prevention, and Fear Mongering (Gruber & Dr. Tapper)
• [45:15]–[50:18]: RAV Expansion, Media Critique, and Political Banter (Gruber & Bolling)

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Tone & Style

The episode embodies a “straight talk,” populist, and sometimes combative tone. Guests and the host stress patriotism, deep skepticism toward establishment figures and agendas (especially among Democrats and the mainstream media), and pride in RAV’s independent status and expansion in D.C.

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In summary:
This episode delivers a hard-hitting mix of national security analysis, domestic policy commentary, and cultural critique—all filtered through the Real America’s Voice ethos of “unfiltered news, honest views.” From Pentagon hallways to local politics, and from the border crisis to holiday health, the show leverages its on-the-ground access and roster of experts to offer its audience a perspective at odds with mainstream networks, championing transparency, “faith and freedom,” and robust scrutiny of authority at every turn.

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And welcome to America's voice live on the 1st of December in the year of our Lord 2025. Coming to you live today from the Pentagon, a great place to be. We've had quite a tour here today. David Zier will join me a little bit to talk about that. But a lot going on at the Pentagon, as you can imagine, with all the information coming out of Venezuela, all the information coming out of Ukraine and the war with Russia. So much to cover here today. Rick De la Torre is a former CIA senior operations officer. He's joining me now to break some of this down. Rick, welcome to the program.

[Rick De la Torre]

Good to be back.

[Steve Gruber]

Well, good to have you here. Look, a lot of discussions lately, and I'm sure they're happening in this building today as to what's next in Venezuela. That is discussion about those drug boats, the seditious six, coming after the Trump administration, basically undermining the command and control the way the military is supposed to run, trying to undermine the authority of the commander in chief, frankly, let's start with that. What are your concerns when you hear U.S. senators, including a veteran, Mark Kelly, basically telling the military you should question the orders you get?

[Rick De la Torre]

Right. So, you know, these are messages coming from folks that, and in particular the one senator who used to be a CIA analyst that, that have never really been on the line. Right. They've never been on those front lines. They've never had to make those kinds of calls. Those kinds of decisions were seconds matter. And you've got to choose, right? If not, you know, someone's life or your life is on the line when they go out and they start questioning, excuse me, and they start encouraging people in our military, in our defense and intelligence community to question lawful orders. It's absurd when they don't mention any orders that are unlawful. And what they've done is they've basically just created a scenario, a situation that sends a message that they're against this administration, that they want the rank and file to slow down, to think before they follow lawful orders. And all that does is just create and sow confusion, especially in the minds of those that are on the front line. And don't have the time to think these things out. You receive orders with the understanding that they are lawful and you're taught what to recognize as to be unlawful. So they don't need that kind of encouragement. And these are the same folks, let's keep in mind, these are the same folks that when the Department of Defense under the Biden administration was actually giving out unlawful orders and forcing many military folks to retire, cut their careers short because they wouldn't get a vaccine, they didn't come to their rescue. They didn't ask them to, you know, to, to stop and to think and to only follow lawful orders. They said silent. So it's very easy if you're in Congress to, you know, to sell this doubt, to encourage people not to follow lawful orders because they're not going to stick up for you.

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They're not to going.

[Rick De la Torre]

They're not the ones who are going to get court martialed. They're not the ones who are going to get demoted. They're not the ones who are going to lose their security clearance.

[Steve Gruber]

Correct. That's all exactly correct, Rick. And the fact of the matter is they're not just sowing seeds of doubt in the chain of command for the people that are on the front lines. These young soldiers, men and women, they don't have the experience to say, well, maybe I should question this, maybe I should question that. It also sows seeds of doubt into the American public. And I think that's a big part of what they've done here. This was the intention, was to create doubt in the leadership of Donald Trump, not just in the military, but in the general public too, wouldn't you say?

[Rick De la Torre]

Oh, absolutely. I mean, when you do a video and you stare into that camera all dramatic and you say, you know, you have, you must, you must. So you can't follow unlawful orders. What they're doing is they're broadcasting to the world and insinuating that unlawful orders are being issued by the White House. And then when you put them on the spot and you ask them to, you know, to point to one, well, which order is unlawful, they come up with buckets. There's nothing for them to point to.

[Steve Gruber]

That's right. Now let's talk about during COVID you mentioned that with the vaccines and 8,700 members of the military were dismissed for refusing to take the vaccine, many of which have now been reinstated. But during that time period, the refrain from the Democrats was trust the experts, trust the experts. Now you have drug boats being targeted coming out of Venezuela both on the eastern and western sides of this country. Shouldn't we trust the experts in the intelligence community and our US Military to know what these boats are carrying, to know who's on these boats, to know what they are transporting? Why would we not trust the experts?

[Rick De la Torre]

Well, again, because it's a theater of politics. It has nothing to do with national security. They don't really focus on, on, on the harm and danger the fentanyl crisis creates in the United States and the tens and tens of thousands of Americans that die every year. Look, when that imagery comes in, when that intel comes in and highlights these specific crafts, it doesn't take much to look at them and say those are not fishing trawlers, those aren't merchant ships, those are speed boats on a one way drive, you know, you know, driving very quickly with the cargo that you could visibly see from the cameras and some of them are even submersible vehicles that they've taken out. So we've also had the wreckage float up on, on the island of Santo Domingo and the Republic, and the Dominican Republic has also confirmed that cocaine and narcos were aboard these. So, so, so it's, it's, you know, this is just stalling tactics. This is just creat a lot of doubt and looking for a way to undermine our national security when right now we really need to be rallying around our forces in the Caribbean and sending them the message that we fully support them and what they're doing as they're saving American lives.

[Steve Gruber]

Let's talk about national security. I'm sure that part of the issue is drugs. Part of the issue is that 100,000Americans are dying from overdoses that are brought into this country through foreign drug cartels poisoning Americans, killing Americans. But looking at it from the outside as I am, you have better experience than I do. But looking at it from the outside as I do, I think there has to be something deeper here. I mean, you look at the war in Ukraine that people have pushed to continue. Ukraine, one of the most corrupt nations on earth, where a lot of bad behavior goes on, money laundering and so forth. The same is true in Venezuela. Is this war deeper than just a drug war against the cartels? Is there more to it? What is the real motivation in your estimation?

[Rick De la Torre]

Oh, I believe so. You know, in the last 10 years or so, what we've had is the Maduro regime has created basically an aircraft carrier in our hemisphere for Russians, Chinese, Iranians and other adversaries of our nation. Not to mention the narcos that you already pointed out, but to get a toehold and now a much stronger presence throughout the hemisphere. And what this does, it's a destabilizing power that occurs. We were seeing that play out now also in Colombia. It's happened in Honduras. Luckily, some of these countries are now waking up from this malaise. But let's also face it, the previous administration was asleep at the wheel and encouraged many of the problems and issues that we're seeing play out today. So Maduro, for the longest time just, you know, he just would call out the prior administration's bluff and nothing would happen. And I think he mistakenly thought that that would happen under the Trump administration. And obviously that's not the case. So what we're seeing now is hopefully a reset, you know, in this hemisphere where we're going to extend our protection to our allies and we're going to confront those that are our enemies or those that are very close allies to our adversaries.

[Steve Gruber]

Well, Rick, let's talk about this before I let you go. And that is that the Trump administration apparently offering Maduro an off ramp for him to leave the country with his wife, with his child and to go elsewhere. But Maduro demanded asylum anywhere in the world. Basically, he wanted a pardon no matter where he may travel for any particular crimes he may have committed. And the Trump administration says that that's a no. Maduro, apparently, according to reporting across the major networks over the last 24 hours, Maduro has tried to call back to the White House and nobody's picking up the phone. Where do you think we are in this discussion?

[Rick De la Torre]

So, so look, I can't, I can't comment on the veracity of some of those claims. But what I can tell you is that this was the sort of thing that maybe he should have thought of a very long time ago when it became apparently clear that A, he lied and defrauded the electorates in Venezuela and stole that election and completely lost any authenticity as being a legitimate leader there. And instead, I think he's felt that Russia, perhaps Cuba, maybe China would somehow stand up to them, stand up to the United States and befriend him in these final hours. But that has not been the case. So what he's seeing is he's seeing, you know, that circle start to get tighter and closer and he's going to have to make some real decisions. Sure. You know, you could see perhaps a socialist aligned leader maybe from Europe step in and offer asylum and a way of cooling things down. But he won't escape US Justice. He's still you know, he's still indicted in the Southern District of Florida and I think also in New York for a number of issues. So that's always going to be pending. And also I think, I really think he missed the boat. He should have taken the deal. He really should have taken the deal from Trump. And I don't believe this president is the type that's going to offer that again. So something's going to have to give there if he wants to de escalate, if he's looking for, he's going to have to create his own exit ramp, his inner circle. He's done a good job over the last few years of thinning out anyone who could have been challenged to him. So what you've got are sycophants who manage the military, who control his security apparatus in conjunction with Cuban intelligence. And they're just as guilty and have just as much blood on their hands. So they know that their fates are tied to Maduro. So I missed that opportunity. If the claims are true.

[Steve Gruber]

I think the ultimatum was exactly that, deal or no deal. Right now, Maduro said no deal. I think he may reconsider. We'll have to wait and find out. All eyes on Venezuela. What happens next. But I think you might have pointed out correctly, Rick, he's in his final hours. One way or the other, he can leave peacefully or he can leave by some other measure. We'll see what happens. Rick, thank you so much for being here today.

[Rick De la Torre]

Continue.

[Steve Gruber]

I greatly appreciate it. Again, live from the Pentagon today, we'll bring in David Zier here a little bit later in the program to talk about what we've learned here today. New media has been welcomed in. We had a tour of the Pentagon. 25,000 people work here, 17 and a half miles of hallway and so much more to discuss. We'll do that as America's Voice Live continues.

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All right. Welcome back to the Pentagon special live coverage here on America's voice live on the 1st of December. It's for me, hard to argue with the success of the national guard in Washington, DC. They were first deployed on 11 August. Since that time, there have been 24 homicides in the city. Now if you extrapolate that out to an annualized number, it's 81 homicides. That would be the lowest rate in 40 years. And then of course, you had the two senators and four members of Congress, six Democrats come out and undermine the idea of the Commander in Chief. They undermine the idea of lawful orders in the chain of command. And since that time, of course, tragically, two members of the West Virginia National Guard were shot. One has died. You know that. She passed away on Thanksgiving. The question is, why would the Democrats be opposed to lowering the crime rate? Because it's not just homicides that are down. Sexual assault's down 35%. Carjackings are down an eye popping 75%. Why would anybody be opposed to this? I'll ask my next guest, Tom Willis, active duty West Virginia National Guardsman himself and a candidate for the U.S. senate. Tom, welcome to the program.

[Tom Willis]

Thanks, Steve. Honored to be here.

[Steve Gruber]

Honored to have you here. Look, the numbers are irrefutable. 24 homicides in 108 days. And if you run that math out, that's 81 homicides in an annual period. We haven't had that few homicides since 1986, since Ronald Reagan was in the White House. Why would anyone be opposed to the National Guard coming into a city like D.C. or Memphis or anywhere else in America? To make the streets safer and the neighborhoods livable.

[Tom Willis]

Yeah, thanks, Steve. It's a good point. And you know, the West Virginia National Guard has a long history of working closely with the D.C. national Guard. In fact, every time there's a presidential inauguration, the West Virginia Guard is, is there to support. We also have primary responsibility for any kind of hazardous incident. And we're frontline defenders for territory that includes Washington, D.C. so we have close ties to the Washington, D.C. national Guard. And I just want to make sure everybody understands, too. I'm not speaking on behalf of the West Virginia National Guard. I'm still a member of the West Virginia National Guard, still serving in uniform in reserve capacity. But I'm speaking on behalf of myself, Tom Willis, as a U.S. senate candidate. And of course, we're talking to you with heavy hearts this weekend, Steve. We lost Specialist Sarah Beckstrom from her wounds at the hands of the Afghan immigrant. And Andrew Wolfe is still fighting for his life. He's in the hospital. His parents have let us know that they do feel like our prayers are working. There have been some positive signs. They're encouraged. The doctors have said that his progress is better than they had hoped or expected. And so his parents are asking for continued prayers for him as well.

[Steve Gruber]

Well, Tom, you may not be speaking officially for the West Virginia National Guard, but it's got to be personal to you to see people that you know in uniform from your state that are going to do the right thing to help clean up Washington, D.C. to make it a safer place, a better place. It is the nation's capital, really, the capital of the world. So you've got to take this personally, don't you?

[Tom Willis]

Well, I think that's a fair statement. You know, I've escorted foreign dignitaries as part of my duty and uniform, and when I'm bringing in congressional members or ministers of defense or ministers of internal security, that sort of thing from other countries. And you see the trash in Washington, D.C. you have to brief them on the possibility of crime. You see the homelessness. It is embarrassing. And it's our nation's capital. And I think the legal, the legal standard here is clear. I'm also an attorney. I own a law firm in West Virginia. And so I can, you know, opine to some degree on the legal standard. You know, Trump is officially the commander in chief of the the D.C. national Guard. And he also has the legal right to mobilize the D.C. metropolitan Police if he needs to in a declared emergency, which he declared the crime here, an emergency. So the president has specific unique legal powers when you're talking about the security and safety of Washington, D.C. but the real issue here is this dangerous naivety that allowed for this mass refugee migration from Afghanistan. Now, you're talking about a country that has some six plus decades of jihadi warfare. Statistically, the illiteracy rate in Afghanistan is 63%. Statistically, the average education for adults is about a fourth grade equivalent. And so now you have this long history of jihadi warfare. Certainly huge swaths of the population have to be psychologically scarred. And now you're bringing in 70,000 to 100,000 of them. And unfortunately, my US Senate opponent, Shelley Moore Capito, voted with Biden to approve this dangerous resettlement program. And now we're seeing the fruit of it.

[Steve Gruber]

Tom, we only have a moment left here, but I've got to ask you about Mark Kelly, a veteran himself. You've served in the armed forces. How does that affect you when you saw him basically questioning the chain of command, planting the seeds of doubt in the commander in chief, not just in the military, but in the public. Last word to you real quick.

[Tom Willis]

Yeah, I was really disappointed to see that. I mean, we're professionals in the military. We understand we have a duty not to obey illegal orders. But to say something like that without backing it up with a specific instance of what they're talking about, you know, that just sows seeds of doubt. And, you know, and you're messing with a very trusted confidence between the military and the American people. And now you're running down the trail of sedition. In my. In my opinion.

[Steve Gruber]

It'S a frightening place to be. Tom, thank you so much for being here. Best wishes in your campaign in West Virginia. We'll take a break. When we come back, David Zier will join me here. About our visit here to the Pentagon today. This is America's Voice live. You asked and we heard you.

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The Pentagon. With me, my colleague, David Zier. Welcome back to the Pentagon. Here, my colleague, David Zier. Here with me today. And David, it's been an interesting day. A chance for the new media to get a chance to get the lay of the land which we have. And we'll get to that. But first, you've got some news for us that's developed over the last 30.

[David Zier]

40 minutes on the White House briefing room. Carolyn Leave it said that the second strike was in fact authorized off the coast of Venezuela. So we'll see where that goes. So much going on regarding that on the ground. Key timing for real America's voice to be involved here at the Pentagon with our team this week. And we're going to get a chance to sit down with some officials tomorrow and Wednesday here in somewhat of an open forum and maybe gaggle with Pete Hegseth on Wednesday.

[Steve Gruber]

So those questions maybe will be asked here in the Pentagon briefing room, if you will. But Caroline Levitt, of course, putting it out there that it was authorized, which is a, a change of narrative, isn't it?

[David Zier]

A bit. She's saying they had authority to do so. I think Trump said once that he probably wouldn't have done it, but we'll see where it goes. And one thing that I would call into question about this whole thing is that, you know, just like in Afghanistan, you know, if these fighters, these Islamic fighters that they were bombing in Afghanistan weren't fighting under a nation state, combatant, uniformed combatants, Geneva Conventions 3 and 4, I remember that was a big discussion. Do they need to be, need to be treated as such, you know, and captured and brought to Gitmo or killed on the battlefield? There's a lot of open questions here. This is somewhat new ground for the.

[Steve Gruber]

US it is a lot of open questions. But I think most people would agree that with 100,000Americans dying from the poison that comes over our borders, whether it's fentanyl or cocaine or whatever drugs it might be, that that is an act of war. Some would suggest that the materials are originating in China, combined in places like Mexico and Venezuela, and then turned into lethal street drugs. And people are dying. Is that not an act of war? That's the real question for a lot of people.

[David Zier]

Well, it is. And we've been all over the country together following the Trump campaign and other for many years with real America's voice. And every blue city, every major city has the same story on the ground. And every community in America, like we are up in New Hampshire a lot, right? Led the nation in overdoses per capita. I met with the overdose prevention director in Manchester, N.H. 100,000 people in the city, 10,000 of them, about overdose every year. And a combination of synthetic opioids and morphine and fentanyl. Now they have the synthetic type fentanyl, I think, which is even more deadly, easier to smuggle in. Major problems. But I don't know how much fentanyl is coming out of Venezuela. I know Colombia has the highest cocaine production ever. And I guess, you know, the whole thing in concert, I. My opinion is that they're trying to get to the head of the snake with Maduro and they're sending a message to the rest of the world because the cartels are in 40 countries. And that's probably something to do with this bigger picture here.

[Steve Gruber]

I think there is a bigger picture. We were talking about that earlier here on the program. It's probably not just about drugs. It's about other activities that are going on. Money laundering, the moving of funding the Chinese Communist Party, the Russians, the Cubans, all trying to get a foothold in South America. And it's not just Venezuela, of course, it's Costa Rica. The Chinese are trying to build fighter jets in Argentina. You see this all over South America. And I think it's important. I think a lot of people agree we need to defend our own backyard.

[David Zier]

And $3 trillion in investment from these countries in the United States and maybe the push for oil in Guyana and other big issues here.

[Steve Gruber]

And then, of course, Venezuela threatening to invade Guyana after they found this huge stash of oil, right?

[David Zier]

And they've been complicit with Iranian and Chinese operatives for many years. So we'll see where all this goes. This is a real complicated time in our history and so many things still going on around the world. You know, Nigeria, right? Nigeria has corrupt government. So how do you deal with that one? Right? And Boko Haram and the thousands of kids who were kidnapped. And then we got Lebanon. Hezbollah is rearming in Hezbollah in Lebanon.

[Steve Gruber]

While they're massacring Christians in Nigeria and Lebanon. So these are very critical things. So what this is for real America's voice, David. And you know, this is an opportunity for us to be in the front row to ask those important questions about the strikes on the drug boats off from Venezuela, to talk about the end of the war in Ukraine and everything else. I think it's a real big opportunity.

[David Zier]

I think it's a great opportunity for real America's voice especially. And I read that memo that came out a few months ago in September. I didn't see anything in it that would abridge First Amendment right to ask tough questions and to cover. But I think what was going on here was maybe there was security leaks, there was media, mainstream media involved walking unescorted around the Pentagon near classified and.

[Steve Gruber]

Non classified sensitive information.

[David Zier]

Sensitive information. And hegseth and Chris Pardell, the Pentagon spokesman, the chief spokesman, is saying that he's interested in protecting the security and the lives of those who work in the military as paramount. So that's probably at the core of this. I also hear rumblings on the ground that some of the MSM are trying to get back in here. So maybe they'll wind up signing the agreement. But we're very happy to be here with the entire RAV news team.

[Steve Gruber]

We certainly are. And we have a place here. We have an office now here inside the Pentagon as Real America's Voice to bring you news from, from the newsmakers themselves directly. David, thank you very much.

[David Zier]

Thank you, Steve.

[Steve Gruber]

We'll take a break and be right back on america's Voice live. Let me check here. What is it? It's 24 days until Christmas. Lance hasn't even bought me anything yet. My photographer here LA It's Christmas season. Where's your spirit? Look, what I'm getting at, folks, is affordability is the word. That's been the catchphrase for the Democrats for a while. It's what got Mamdani elected. It's doom and gloom. The economy is in the toilet. Well, if that were true, why did we just set an all time record for sales on Black Friday? It's Cyber Monday, by the way. Great time to get some RAV gear going for those Christmas stockings out there. But we are setting all time records for sales. And yes, there's an affordability crisis and yes, there are people that are hurting. But on the other side of that, there's some real optimism going on. Join me now, David Jones. He's running for governor in the great state of Maine. David, welcome back to the program.

[David Jones]

I'll have. Glad to be here, Steve. Glad to be here. And yeah, you're right, we have an affordability problem. But yes, we have confidence. We have consumer confidence now. Why we have good leadership.

[Steve Gruber]

Well, you know, look, the previous administration does a considerable amount of damage, gives away tremendous amounts of money through the COVID pandemic. They want to continue those spending levels which drives inflation, creates problems for the average family. They pursued the Green New Deal, which is driving electric rates through the roof in places like Maine, where you live and in places like Michigan, where I live. Look, bad policies can't be corrected in nine months. It takes time to fix this kind of damage, doesn't it?

[David Jones]

Yes, it does. It took us four years of turmoil to get to where we are now. And we got a president in nine months, in my opinion is doing the job that I hired him for. You know, like people have to have confidence in leadership and we haven't had that. And so now they see what Trump is doing. He's leading us down the path where, you know, things are affordable again. Gas is down, eggs are down. You know, just things are better. We still have a government that's out of control. They still spend way too much money. The bottom line is, is they just think that they can constantly tax us for everything under the sun and then fund these stupid programs that nobody wants. You have solar programs with the solar tax. We have windmills where they're blowing tops of mountains off here in the state of Maine. Beautiful scenery we had before. And now we got to drive down the roads and look at these. These, as far as I'm concerned, non performing things that they put on the top of the tops of the mountains. You know, so it's not that we wanted this is they forced it upon us and you know, it costs us money. Our, our energy in the state of Maine.

[Steve Gruber]

Let me ask you this. Yeah. Let me ask you about fraud. Look, we keep seeing these big headlines about fraud in places like Minnesota. Janet Mills, the current remain other fraud issues when it comes to government spending. And people that are not qualified to get certain government handouts are getting those handouts. It's costing the taxpayers the actual people that are working their tails off. Piles of money and gifts are being given to people that shouldn't even be in the country. But why do we see this and why do we see people like Governor Wall say, well, it's not just the Somalia people that are here. And Janet Mills trying to defend her record over the last several years, your current governor. Not one of my favorites. Your thoughts?

[David Jones]

No, definitely not one of mine, obviously. I mean, there was a report that came out by Matt Dunlap where there was $2.1 billion in contracts rewarded without following standard operating procedure for a woman. So I mean, you have that, you have the problem with her brother who's closing on these properties owned by Chinese and put these illegal Chinese grows in Maine, turning a blind eye to a blind eye on enforcement. I mean, you got people that are licensed here in the state of man that are legitimate businesses dealing in cannabis and then you've got the Chinese that are just doing it, you know, whatever, and they're being given licenses. So, I mean, you like. It's, you know, it's, it's really what she's done in the past eight years to me is.

[David Zier]

It's hard.

[David Jones]

I lived here almost 30 years now. I've been involved not as a politician, but as someone who likes to help good people here in the state of Maine. And what I've seen her do, it's just, it, it's unfathomable. It just is. And so we're going to work. When I became a governor, I came up with the Dave Jones Doge, which is the David's Office of Government Efficiency. And that's what we're going to do. We're going to go up, we're going to open up the, the books. We're going to find out what she's done, what's been done that's right or wrong, and clean this place up. It's got to spin around 180 degrees from where it is today. It's hard, but we're going to get there.

[Steve Gruber]

Well, David, it's an uphill climb in Maine. I know it is. Yeah, it's an uphill climb in Maine for a Republican to win. But I believe you can pull it off. And I think you have to pull it off, otherwise Maine's on a bad road. Really appreciate you being here. I'm sure we'll talk again, my friend. Thank you.

[David Jones]

Well, thanks for having me. Great to talk to you.

[Steve Gruber]

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You made it through Thanksgiving. You made it through Black Friday. Here we are on Cyber Monday. Christmas is on the way. So is rsv, Covid, the flu, all of those wonderful things. Join Me now is Dr. Ben Tapper from the wellness company. He's the director of epigenetics there. Doctor, welcome to the program, Steve.

[Dr. Ben Tapper]

It's good to be here. Thanks for having me.

[Steve Gruber]

Always good to have you, my friend. Look, all of the great respiratory illnesses, this is when they tend to show up in big ways. But I'm just going to ask you, because I ask all the doctors, is there any reason for a healthy guy like me to get a flu shot or should I just try to take care of my health and do the smart things to make sure I don't get sick?

[Dr. Ben Tapper]

Well, let's just put it this way. I've never had a flu shot. I don't get the flu. I take care of my body. I think these flu shots are worthless. You might be able to save a little bit on gasoline if you get a flu shot or, you know, some groceries if you get a flu shot. But you know what? I don't recommend it. I've never had a flu shot in my life. And, you know, I don't get the flu. So there's your answer.

[Steve Gruber]

All right. So what? Right? And there's the. That's the same answer for me. I don't get the flu shot. But there are things I can do, especially with products from the wellness company, to keep my immune system in tip top shape because that's really what it's about. Fight off that stuff, you know, do the right things, make sure you're healthy and you can battle back and be better. Right. What are some of those things?

[Dr. Ben Tapper]

Well, first off, we have to understand what the flu season really is. And I call it the vitamin D deficiency season. It's really the toxicity or deficiency season. We have all these sugar holidays and pies and for Thanksgiving and, you know, and we're not getting that 30 minutes of summer sunlight. So we really need to be supplementing, move away from toxicity and deficiency into purity and sufficiency. And we do that with good supplementation. The wellness company has some of the best of the best supplements. And God forbid you do get sick, they have some heavy hitters that you can get at home as well with some of their med kits. And I Call it vitamin I, you know, the yolvermectin. These things are very, very powerful at helping you fight the flu.

[Steve Gruber]

Yeah. And if you do end up with it, if you do end up sick, okay, it happens. I've been sick. I've gotten the flu once or twice. I'm not as good as you. But look, what are the things you would recommend if you're sick? You've got rsv, you've got bronchitis, you've got the flu, whatever it might be. It's an upper respiratory problem. How would you fight back?

[Dr. Ben Tapper]

Well, first off, I believe in the body's ability to heal itself. But God forbid, if I do get sick, there's some things I would recommend from the wellness company. They do have the med kits, emergency med kits that they have. Really? Again, they have heavy hitters in the case we do get sick. It's basically having your own medicine cabinet at home. And so they have the vitamin I and hydroxychloroquine. They do have antibiotics. You know, antibiotics can be life saving at times. I don't recommend taking them daily. But it's one of those things, if you do get sick, if you have those, God forbid, sepsis or something that got, you know, bacterial infection in the blood, you have those at home to give you that peace of mind. So the wellness company has everything you need to really fight off and combat the flu season.

[Steve Gruber]

You know, it's not just cold and flu season, it's fear mongering season too. Doctor. And, and I say that because I hadn't heard a thing about bird flu. And all sudden, bird flu is back. Oh, you know, if it mutates, it'll be worse than Covid. I saw one headline. What can you tell me about bird flu? Is it something we should be concerned about or is it, like I say, potentially fear mongering?

[Dr. Ben Tapper]

Well, you know, I would say that fear is the fire that fuels the furnace of disease. And, you know, and so, you know, there's always a fear mongering campaign every single year. There's, you know, Ebola, Zika, bird flu, whatever it may be, you know, new measles outbreak. There's always something that tries to scare the public and the masses to coerce them to get another vaccine or whatever it may be. So really, when I hear these things, I take with a grain of salt. But the real key here is that we, we must be preventative. I mean, Benjamin Franklin said, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. So we need to value our health now before we do get sick. And if we do get sick, so that's why it's important that we focus on prevention, that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Do not give into these fear mongering campaigns being pushed by big Pharma and everything else. So understand that your body's ability to heal itself is far greater than our government has permitted you to believe.

[Steve Gruber]

But if there's some people out there that are concerned and okay, maybe they're older, maybe they have some health issues, some pre existing conditions, what would you recommend to ward off bird flu or anything else for that matter?

[Dr. Ben Tapper]

I recommend getting yourself a med kit from the Wellness Company. Hands down the best kit on the market. And it is life saved. Literally has literally saved lives. So getting the med kit, having that at home give you that peace of mind is my solution.

[Steve Gruber]

Dr. Ben Tapper from the Wellness Company. Always good to talk to you my friend. Be well, be safe and enjoy the Christmas season. You too Steve.

[Dr. Ben Tapper]

Thanks so much.

[Steve Gruber]

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Well, it's a new day here at Real America's Voice as we head off into our new offices here at the Pentagon. Very excited about this, by the way. Gives us the opportunity to have those conversations with Secretary Hegseth, all the people surrounding him and the newsmakers here inside the Pentagon. With so much going on, obviously it could not possibly come at a more important time. The peace talks potentially having some success in bearing fruit between Ukraine and Russia and of course, the ongoing conversations about Venezuela and where that all leads. Now, we will have RAV correspondence here at the Pentagon all week. I'll be switching over to the White House for tomorrow and Wednesday. And the good news is we've got you covered all over town, whether it's Capitol Hill, the White House, the Pentagon. It's what we're doing for you here at Real America's Voice, getting to the front lines, asking the important questions to the people that matter the most and can make decisions in your life. Now, I'd like to direct you to the Steve Gerber Show. It starts the live broadcast day here on Real America's Voice every morning at 6am and I'll be live in Washington for the rest of the week. So we'll have a lot of interesting stories for you here. I'm going to go out on the streets. I'm going to talk to some of these National Guard members. I'm going to see what's happening with the people. We're going to find out what the feeling is. You get told one thing, that people don't want them here. And yet when you talk to the citizens here in D.C. it seems they do want them here because crime is down. Like we said, just 24 homicides, 108 days. That would be the lowest rate in 40 years. Carjacking is down 75%, sexual assault down 35%. The numbers are pretty hard to argue with. Now, you can check me out here on the Steve Gruber Show, 6am you can also follow me on all the social Media platforms, because we like to hear from you. Go to stevegruber.com, send me an email. You might just hear it right here on the program. What are your thoughts? Do you live near a big city? Would you like the National Guard to help you out in lower crime and drug abuse and overdoses and all the things that go with it in your city? It's an important conversation to have. You can follow me on all the social media platforms. Make sure you slap the like button or whatever they say. The kids all say that, right? Kids like bowling. Eric Bolling has been standing by. He's been waiting to yell at me for days now, I think. I mean, first the Lions laid an egg on Thanksgiving, and then, well, the Wolverines didn't cover on Saturday. It's been a rough week for football in the state of Michigan. Bowling, I gotta be honest with you, it's been tough to take.

[Eric Bolling]

It's been a rough year for football at the bowling household and the bowling betting app, so to speak. Yeah. What happened? Ohio State, man, they. They just look tough. There's a major game setting up. Ohio State, Indiana.

[Steve Gruber]

Wow.

[Eric Bolling]

One and two.

[Steve Gruber]

Poof.

[Eric Bolling]

That's gonna be barn. But that'd be a really, really good game to watch. Yeah, I know it was. Wasn't a great betting weekend for the home team, Steve, but it's really good to see. You guys can see Rev all over.

[Steve Gruber]

No, the swamp.

[Eric Bolling]

Cleaning up the swamp. At least shining a light and have the little. The swamp rants scurry when the, when the light turns on. Capitol Pentagon and the White House. Wow. It's fantastic coverage. Guys are doing a great job.

[Steve Gruber]

Well, it's a remarkable process. It's a remarkable opportunity for this network. Look, I've been with this network for six years and we've done nothing but grow and add great people, yourself included, Eric. I mean, we keep on bringing on good people, veteran people, seasoned people. We're able to cover the stories because we have the relationships, obviously. You do. I do. And you know, the other people on the network, be it Steve Bannon or whoever else is out there, have relationships. Those pay dividends for the viewers. And so I'm, I'm really pleased, pleased to be here at the Pentagon today. And I know that I'll be at the White House tomorrow. It's. And it's a new day because it's not just three networks giving you the news. Right. It's a whole bunch of people now that can say, well, wait a second, what about this? What about this? What about this? Things that the major networks would ignore or even not tell us the truth about. I think that's the big difference.

[Eric Bolling]

It's great having more eyeballs on what goes on in the D.C. swamp. And I'm not talking about the Trump administration. The Democrats are, are all over the place. They have such Trump derangement diseases and I wouldn't call it syndromes or they're literal, you know, existential diseases for their party for sure. Taking them down. But just to see and just be around there and you know, credit to rather give, give these guys credit for forget that's no small expense. Absolutely. Set up in these three new locations for a very young network doing, just doing great things. So, so good job. Good on them, good on you guys. And you know, I'm thrilled to be here too. So it's awesome. I, I'm just curious, do you run into any Democrats when you're out there and stick a microphone in their face, you know, see if Swalwell is really going to run for governor?

[Steve Gruber]

Yeah, Swalwell is governor. I want the over under on that one. I mean, really, California. Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse. Eric Swalwell. This can't be serious. Come on.

[Eric Bolling]

There's a good, there's a good silver lining to swallow. Running for governor takes Katie Porter kind of of out of the picture a little bit. And the good news is the sheriff's going to be on the show here he is now polling at the top spot. Democrat or Republican right now. So you have a Republican sheriff.

[Steve Gruber]

Wow.

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