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And welcome to America's Voice Live. I'm Steve Guerd. Today is Wednesday the 3rd of December, the year of our Lord 2025. Coming to you from Washington D.C. today. So let's get to today's top stories. As always, thank you for joining us here. Recent updates saw the designation of the Cartel de la Sols as a foreign terrorist organization and accuses Venezuela's Protestant Nicolas Maduro of being a key component to the logistics of the cartel's illegal drug operations. I'll bring on David Zier and Benny Harmony from the Pentagon to give us updates. Also, affordability continues to be on the minds of Americans and as home ownership drifts further out of reach, President Trump pushing a Bold new idea to bring monthly payments down. But not everyone is on board. We'll have that today. And then later, the Department of Justice suing the state of California over the California DREAM act for giving illegal alien students lower tuition. Lower tuition than American citizens. I'll bring on a reporter from campus reformed to break that down for us. That and more coming your way, including an announcement from President Trump regarding new fuel economy standards. That should be happening soon. I'll bring you that coverage as soon as it goes live. Meanwhile, 29 year old Rahman Ullah, the Afghan national accused of shooting two National Guard troops last week not far from the White House, has now been formally charged with a list of crimes. Prosecutors have filed counts including assault with intent to kill, murder, firearms charges as well. Lockenwell, appearing before a judge remotely from a hospital bed, entered a not guilty plea through his defense attorney. The judge in the case ordered him held without bond. And U.S. attorney Jeanine Pirro made it clear that nothing is off the table. As the invasion continues. Sarah Beckstrom sadly died from her injuries. She was just 20 years old. Andrew Wolfe remaining in critical condition, but has reported some positive signs. We pray for him. Joining me to discuss this is the senior legal fellow at the Heritage Foundation, Hans von Spakovsky. Hans, nice to see you today, sir.
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Hans von Spakovsky
Thanks for having me.
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Steve Guerril
All right, so you've got a guy in the country. He's an Afghan national. He's here legally apparently, but came in with this wave of Afghans in the reckless evacuation of Afghanistan in 2021. Here he is and he sets his sights on the National Guard members of our military. Two of them that were unarmed, by the way. That's a discussion that we'll have as well. Why would that be? But break the case down for us? It seems pretty cut and dry to me, Hans.
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Hans von Spakovsky
Oh, I think it is. They levied four different charges against him. First degree murder while armed.
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Assault with the intent to kill while armed, and then two, possession of a weapon while committing a crime of violence. Those penalties, the penalties for those charges, particularly the first degree murder charge, is the death penalty. That is a potential crime. There are about 60 violations of federal law that can subject you to the death penalty. And included in the charges that they made against him, they can go for the death penalty. My, frankly, my personal opinion is they ought to.
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Steve Guerril
All right, let's talk about that a little bit. This is a heinous crime. He drove all the way from the state of Washington with the intent of doing great harm to these people on the streets that are doing their Job. And look, I'm in Washington right now and there's been a dramatic change here. Hans, you're here all the time. Ever since the 11th of August, there have been 24 homicides, 110 days. If you equate that out to a year, there'll be 80 murders a year. That would be the lowest rate in 40 years. Carjacking down 75%. Sexual assault down 35%. I mean, the impact has been dramatic and positive. So why all the pushback from Democrats on the left saying, this is terrible, we have troops in our streets? When I see them out on the streets, Hans, you see the same thing. They're standing around, they're talking to people, they're having a laugh. You know, they're enjoying themselves. And they're not scary. They're just people in uniform. Why are the Democrats pushing back so hard?
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Hans von Spakovsky
Well, look, there's two reasons for this. One, because they suffer from, you know, Trump derangement syndrome. I mean, anything that Trump comes out of, no matter how positive it is, they're against it. But also it's because unfortunately, a very long term position of the Democratic Party is hostility to law enforcement and hostility to the military. They just can't get over that. And in fact, they've gotten worse over the years as the Democratic Party has gone further and further to the left. It's that hostility that makes them against anything that would actually bring a greater public safety to D.C. well, here's the thing.
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Steve Guerril
The people that can least afford it in D.C. or Chicago or Los Angeles are those in lower economic neighborhoods.
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Hans von Spakovsky
That's right.
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Steve Guerril
Can't defend themselves. They're on a fixed income. They don't have the option to get a U Haul and get out of town. They're there and you've got this violence. I just looked up the stats for Chicago. Almost 2,000 people shot this year in Chicago. More than 400 have been murdered. And yet the mayor there, Brandon Johnson, and the governor, J.B. pritzker, say they don't want these troops in their streets. How about we ask the people, Hans? I think I know what they would say because I've talked to people here in D.C. i talked to the Uber drivers, I talked to the people on the streets. I'm sure you do as well. They like it because crime is down. They feel like you can safely walk down their street for the first time in years, many of them. Why wouldn't everybody want this?
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Hans von Spakovsky
Look, you talk about Chicago. I mean, Chicago, I think is the murder capital of the United States and very Important point you made. The individuals who are victimized the most by the crimes that occur in places like D.C. and Chicago, people who live in poor urban neighborhoods, that's where the crime rates are the highest. So the people who Democrats claim are supposedly their constituents, they're the ones they're hurting the most. It's not the limousine liberals who live in tall buildings in New York and elsewhere that have their own security and gatekeepers and others to protect them. It is the poor folks in urban neighborhoods, many of them minorities, many of them black. They are the ones that are victimized by this. Anti.
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Democrats.
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Steve Guerril
Yeah, there you have it. And you look at what happened in New York City. Daniel Penney is the guy that's targeted and attacked by Democrats, not the criminals on the subway train. The guy that's trying to protect the people from an obvious threat on the train. And the Democrats cheerlead him all the way to his acquittal. It's. It's while they wanted him convicted, it's like their thinking is completely backwards to me.
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Hans von Spakovsky
Well, it is. And that's also because the prosecutor there, Alvin Bragg, is one of those Soros supported rogue prosecutors. Remember when he came into office, he made it clear that the majority of felonies committed in the city, he wasn't going to prosecute. He was going to reduce them to misdemeanors. Even when they go after them, and most misdemeanors, they won't do anything about it. Which is why hot crime rates have soared in the city. That's due to the prosecutor in that city. It's not law enforcement. It's not the police officers they arrest. Folks. The problem is then what prosecutors do with those cases.
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Steve Guerril
And the same time you've got mobs attacking those that want to deport illegal aliens, criminals in our country, people that are murderers, rapists, drug dealers. It's bizarre. I want to shift gears with you for a minute, Hans, because Democrats are also slamming Secretary of War Pete Hegseth for the attack on suspected drug boats in the Caribbean and Eastern Pacific, calling Hegseth a warmonger and worse, a war criminal. They say these strikes are illegal. Let me ask you, are these strikes against boats that are delivering poison to the shores of the United States, whether it's fentanyl, cocaine, whatever it might be. What do you make of the strikes? What about the legality of taking out these drug runners?
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Hans von Spakovsky
Well, you notice that the critics haven't cited any U.S. laws that they claim that the President has violated by doing this. That's because presidents have great deal of authority outside of the country when it comes to national security. That's why, for example, Barack Obama has never been prosecuted or called a war criminal by Democrats because he was ordering strikes on jihadists and terrorists, including, if you'll recall, sometimes American citizens who had joined the jihadist movement. And you never heard any complaints about that, did you? No.
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Steve Guerril
He killed three Americans, one that was 16 years of age in drone strikes, more than 500. In fact, on his third day in office, he ordered drone strikes that included civilians. Hans. Right. I don't remember these Democrats talking about that. And then you look at Mark Kelly, Alyssa Slotkin, two senators, Mark Kelly being a veteran, and I've heard from so many veterans since that tape came out of them saying, do not follow illegal orders. Of course, they have no examples to offer. Right. But the veterans and the people in the military that I talk to are outraged by these tapes because it undermines a chain of command. It undermines the commander in chief. It undermines the confidence not just in the military and military leadership, but in the general public. And I think that's the intent of these tapes.
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Hans von Spakovsky
Oh, no, I agree. And Kelly knows better because he knows that military personnel, including at the lowest level of the military, are given intensive training, training to tell them that they do not have to obey illegal order. So it's not as if this is happening. And as you pointed out, and this is very important, they couldn't point to a single order given by the president that was somehow an unlawful order. Yeah.
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Steve Guerril
Now, there are some calls for Mark Kelly to be recalled to the military, which, when you sign on the dotted line, you agree to being in the military for life. They can recall you at any time. There's a call to bring him back and put him up for a court martial. What are your thoughts on that?
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Hans von Spakovsky
Well, look, I'm not an expert on the code of military justice. The military does have the ability to recall individuals, whether they're members of Congress or not.
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Whether that's a smart political move here that I can't answer. And I don't know what a court martial would think of what he said under the code of military justice and whether it would apply or not. I mean, the best thing that could happen is for Kelly and the other members of Congress to apologize, withdraw this video, and admit that they made a mistake, and they shouldn't have done that. He's just been doubling down and insisting that he did nothing wrong. And that in itself is wrong.
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Steve Guerril
I agree with that. But the war on law enforcement, the War on the military. This narrative, and sometimes a shooting war, as we saw here on the streets of D.C. recently, has been going on for some time. I recall vividly, yes, five Dallas police officers gunned down during a Black Lives Matter protest murdered in the streets of Dallas. And people forget about that. I don't forget about that, Hans. The police officers have been the target. The military is the target. And every time people make reckless comments like these real American heroes, frontline heroes, become the victims, don't they?
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Hans von Spakovsky
Well, they do. And in fact, it's that kind of language, it's that kind of hatred of law enforcement and the military that's being taught all over the country in academia, in the media and elsewhere. And unfortunately, that inspires some individuals to commit crimes, like this individual from Afghanistan who was radicalized in the U.S. and attacked these National Guardsmen in D.C. and.
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Steve Guerril
Before I leave that, Hans, just from your own personal point of view, was that a turning point? Because to me, I saw a lot of people that may have otherwise been inclined to lean left and saw these two young people shot down in the streets of D.C. i feel like it was a turning point in the conversation, one that has people on the left questioning what they're actually supporting. I'll give you the last word.
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Hans von Spakovsky
Oh, I think that is true. It should have happened when two Israeli diplomats, the young couple were shot right outside of a museum in D.C. that didn't happen. Hopefully what happened with these, a tragedy of these two National Guardsmen will finally turn off the left despigot of hate.
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Steve Guerril
Yeah. Hans von Spakovsky, always appreciate you being here, sir. Thank you.
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Hans von Spakovsky
Thanks for having me.
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Steve Guerril
All right, coming up after the break, I'm going to bring on David Zier from the Pentagon. I was there a couple of days ago to give us updates on the conflict with Venezuela as well as the ongoing war between Russia and Ukraine. Is peace at hand? We'll have details straight ahead on America's Voice Live.
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Steve Guerril
Welcome back to the program now over at the Pentagon, we've got David Zier and Benny Ray Harmony on standby for me today because we got a lot of breaking news. David, Benny, welcome to the program. Glad to have you here. I want to get right into it, David, you telling me you were just handed something from one of the folks there on Signal Gate? Let's start with that. What do you have?
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David Zier
Yeah, regarding the inspector general review for Signal Gate here, which has been out in the news, but this is hot off the press from the Pentagon to us. The inspector General review is a total exoneration of Secretary Hegseth and proves what we knew all along. According to the Pentagon spokesman, the chief spokesman, Sean Parnell, no classified information was shared. This matter is resolved and the case is closed. We just got this about 10 minutes ago, David.
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Steve Guerril
Let's talk about that just for a minute longer because it's become quite clear the government shutdown was a failure for the Democrats and their narrative. The attacks about Epstein, release of files, they've been released. That's been a big zero. They've turned their focus to these drug boats and Pete Hegseth, they. They want him. They've been targeting him since day one. He seems to be a target now, exonerated in what you've just gotten. But make no mistake, the left wants Pete Hegseth. They want him pushed out, don't they?
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David Zier
Yeah, there's no doubt about that. But they've been very clear here, doing interviews all day on the ground for the new media here, that no rules were violated, no international laws were violated with that second strike that the Admiral ordered in the Caribbean and that they followed protocol and they want the commanders to be able to do what they need to do in the field without, you know, politics involved in it. And they're steadfast on that, that there was nothing wrong with that.
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Steve Guerril
Yeah, I'm going to come back to that in a minute, but first I want to get to Benny Ray here because we're following the Defense Appropriations bill. It's on the clock, Benny. They've got a certain amount of weeks. The time is running tight. You've got an update for us? What do you have?
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Yeah, well, Steve, this is a huge topic right now because we are nearing that End of January deadline that every American is looking towards right now. Now there's about five more appropriations bills now for people that don't know what that means. Those are the spending bills for the different departments of the U.S. government. And so we talked to Dane Hughes just a few minutes ago. Actually, you just did. And he spent, spoke about this bill and what they're looking to do to get this passed. It was passed by the, by the House. They passed this, this funding bill, but it got turned down in the Senate. Now they only have till the end of January to get this put in. So the policy people here at the Pentagon are working hard to work with Congress and members to ensure they can get this passed. So our government and our defense is funded. It's a $800 billion.
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Funding bill.
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Steve Guerril
$800 billion. And here's the challenge that we face here. I'm sorry, David. The challenge we face here is we've got that deadline in January because the government shutdown was ended, but only through January temporarily. And so we could face that again and again. You'd see military people not being paid. You'd see funding problems across government. David, pick up your thought right there.
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David Zier
Well, I spoke to the comptroller for the Department of War here and other staff here, including the legislative liaison here for Secretary Hegseth with Congress and others have expressed that operations were interrupted by the shutdown. They kept it together. But not having this resolved is a problem going forward. They need to do it.
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Steve Guerril
All right, so there at the Pentagon. Benny, I want to ask you this. The conversation here, as you well know, has been about Senator Mark Kelly, Senator Alyssa Slotkin for other members of Congress, all Democrats coming out here several days ago now with a video saying do not follow illegal orders, saying that to active military personnel, although they could cite no illegal orders being given by the president or by Pete Hagseth. They rolled out that video and have been heavily criticized since by some and applauded by others. What is the feeling there on the ground about what we call the seditious six?
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Well, every person that we've talked to, every military leader here today has said the same thing, right, David, they have said that there was nothing done wrong here and that Secretary Hegseth and this administration didn't do anything wrong. And I want to, I want to give it over to David for this, because you had this conversation with multiple of these leaders talking about Mark Kelly and the six. What were some of those things that you heard from them when you spoke to them?
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David Zier
Well, as far as you know, Mark Kelly goes. And what they did, you know, was, was not only questionable and they, you know, they ride the line. They ride the threshold of what could be considered sedition or, you know, court martialed for, but they definitely may have instigated and it's yet to be told. Right. So what happens if four months from now or six months from now, somebody disobeys an order because of what they did? So we haven't seen repercussions from it yet, per se. And. But what if somebody, you know, what if there's a death of U.S. servicemen in the field because of that? Then they really need to be held accountable, Steve. And I think that's a general consensus here.
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Steve Guerril
Last question real quickly, Benny, I'll start with you. Ukraine, Russia, it seems that the strides have been made in bringing peace to that region. President Trump pushing hard for a 28 point peace Peace deal. It was initially accepted by Zelinsky in Ukraine, Putin. So far I'm not sure if we have an answer, but any updates on that front?
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David Zier
We don't have any updates on that in here. Today, a new media week. We're meeting with staff in the Pentagon, department heads, under secretaries all day. Ukraine came up a little bit today. Steve, I don't have the latest for you on, on that, outside of us hearing rumblings that this peace deal may have some traction and that Witkoff and Jared Kushner may have had some success in that realm. But we'll bring you further updates as we get them.
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Steve Guerril
All right, David Zier, Benny Ray Harmony, greatly appreciate you both being there as real America's voice is now fully credentialed to be at the Pentagon. When everything, anything important happens, we'll be there for you guys. Thank you for that so much. Greatly appreciate it.
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You know, buying a home is something that most Americans want to do at some point in their lives. But the average first time home buyer is now 39 years of age. I was 19. Think about that. Over the years, the goal has become much harder to accomplish. President Trump's bid to address this concern had to do with a proposal of 50 year mortgages to bring down monthly payments. An idea that's garnered attention with one camp embracing it, others saying that's a terrible idea and torching it. Of course, the interest rates are a factor in this equation as the inflation numbers seen during Joe Biden's term drove us to this point. Furthermore, the overall supply of houses in America is not big enough. We're about 3 or 4 million homes short at this point. Join out to discuss is the senior director of government affairs at the National Taxpayers Union, Tommy Aiello. Hold on one second. We're going to go to Donald Trump live right now in the Oval Office here. He is.
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Donald Trump
Important today my administration has taken historic action to lower costs for American consumers, protect American auto jobs and make buying a car much more affordable for countless American families and also safer. We're officially terminating Joe Biden's ridiculously burdensome, horrible actually CAFE standards that imposed expensive restrictions and all sorts of problems, gave all sorts of problems to automakers. And we're not only talking about here, we're talking about outside of our country, because nobody could do it. Nobody wanted to do it. And it was ridiculous. Very expensive. It put tremendous upward pressure on car prices. Combined with the insane electric vehicle mandate, Biden's burdensome regulations helped cause the price of cars to Soar more than 25%. And in one case, they went up 18% in one year. Today, we're taking one more step to kill the Green News scam as part of the greatest scam, probably. Well, other than Russia, Russia, Russia and a few, few others, I could name the greatest scam in American history. The Green News scam. And it's a quest to end the gasoline powered car. This is what they wanted to do, even though we have more gasoline than any other country by far. And people want the gasoline car. They want everything. They want electric, they want any. They want to have lots of alternatives, but they do want the gasoline car. Right now, it's leading away by a lot.
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The car business is a very interesting business, but we want to keep it that way. I want to thank Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy, Deputy Transportation Secretary Steven Bradbury, as well as CEO of Ford, Jim Farley. Jim, where is Jim? Let's see. Hi, Jim. Congratulations, you're doing a great job. CEO of Stellantis, Antonio Filosa. Thank you very much.
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Chairman of the National Automobile Dealers Association, Tom Castridov.
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Donald Trump
Thank you very much. Tom, great to have you. And manager of General Motors Orient Plant, John Urbanek.
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Donald Trump
Thank you, sir. Great to have you guys here. And you're going to say a few words in a minute about how ridiculous this was, but we've just freed you up, so you're going to have a good day and have a good number of years. Thanks as well to Senators Shelley Moore Capito, Ted Cruz, Kevin Kramer, Marsha Blackburn, Eric Schmidt and Bernie Marino, as well as Representative Sam Graves, Vern Buchanan, Mike Kelly, Roger Williams, Lisa McClain and Troy Balderson. All great people. These are great people. And I know there's a lot of support long beyond the people that are here. We've had tremendous, tremendous support on this. From day one. I've been taking action to make buying a car more affordable. I signed an executive order to end the unfair, expensive electric vehicle mandate. As you know, where you had to have an electric car within a very short period of time, even though there was no way of charging them, and lots of other things. It would have cost $5 trillion to build the charging plants. And as you know, in certain parts of the Midwest, and they spent to build nine chargers. They spent $8 billion. So that wasn't working out too well. That was done before me, by the way. I wouldn't have let it go forward. We're canceling the EPA's absurd tailpipe emission standards. One of the most important things that I've never had a group of people come to me more.
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Powerfully and really just devastated that they had to do it. It was killing them than the automobile manufacturers, the tailpipe emission standards. And I can tell you, your people at Ford were coming to me all the time and they were saying, like, please, it doesn't do anything and it's killing us and it's driving the cost through the roof. And we revoked biden's emissions waiver for California so that California communists could not regulate the automobile industry and ruin the entire nation of automobiles. And they were doing that too. But we have that now under control. Also with your governor who's got much more than he can control now, under the new rules being issued today by secretary Duffy, the department of transportation will rescind the Biden fuel economy prices. And I hate to say that because they were really not economy. They were really, they were anti economy. They were horrible. What they were doing to the costs and actually making the car much worse. But these policies forced automakers to build cars using expensive technologies that drove up costs, drove up prices and made the car much worse. The action is expected to save the typical consumer at least $1,000 off the price of a new car, and we think substantially more than that. Under the Trump administration, $70 billion are now being invested in the American auto industry. Ford has announced it will invest $5 billion across its Kentucky and Michigan plants. Is that a correct name?
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Donald Trump
That's a lot. 5 billion. You could do more.
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Creating at least 4,000 new jobs. Stellantis announced that we will invest $13 billion to expand its u. S. Based manufacturing by more than 50% and open new manufacturing facilities across the country. And I think a big part of that is also the tariffs. Because of tariffs, they're coming in not only the automobile industry, AI. We're leading China in AI. We're leading everybody in AI. We're leading everybody in everything. We have the hottest country right now. I will tell you a lot of political people behind me, great political people, very successful political people. We have the hottest country anywhere in the world. One year ago we had a dead country and now we have the hottest country anywhere in the world. And it started from November 5, but it also started when we did the tariffs. And we've had tremendous support on the tariffs. It's bringing in trillions of dollars of wealth. It's bringing in national security. Security. And I've stopped eight wars. And of the eight wars, five of them have been because of tariffs and trade. So they're very important. And General motors plans to invest $4 billion as it brings its manufacturing back to the United States from mexico after falling by 5% under Biden, US auto production has surged by 10% so far this year. You know, I won the auto workers vote, but now even the head of the auto workers said Trump is the greatest president we've ever seen. And he happens to be right about that.
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But we're protecting our autoworkers and we're making it easier for every family to afford high quality cars. In other words, we're bringing automobiles back and the manufacturing of automobiles back into this country. We lost 52% over the years, 52% of our automobile manufacturer. You see, it closed factories all over the place. Now they're all opening up. They're being, in most cases, they're being knocked down and new ones are being built in their place. And big beneficiaries, the state of Michigan, but South Carolina, even states that didn't really do too much with the automobiles. They're opening up plants. It's been amazing. So between automobile plants, AI plants and plants of every other nation, really every other type, including chips, we're going to have a big percentage of the chip market very soon. Not because of the CHIPS act, which was horrible and ridiculous, where we just gave these companies billions and billions of dollars and they just kept the money, but because of what we did with tariffs, they have to build here, otherwise they're going to have to pay tariffs. They won't be able to do business in the United States. And we are bringing, we're going to have a big, big percentage of the chip industry as of about a year ago. Two years ago we had none. And now we're going to have a very big percentage when it all finishes out. So I'd like to ask Secretary Duffy to speak and then Mr. Farley and then Filoza and Urbanek and Kastrida. And also we're going to ask some of our political leaders to speak because let me tell you, they went out of their way. This was not easy. People were brainwashed. This is a green new scam. And people were paying too much for a car that didn't work as well. And now they're going to have a great car that's going to be environmentally friendly, but it's going to cost you a lot less. And it's going to work great. All of the nonsense is being taken out of the cars. So Secretary Duffy, could you say a few things?
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David Zier
Thank you, Mr. President.
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Sean Duffy
So yesterday at the Cabinet meeting, the President was talking about a affordability. And the way that Democrats talk about affordability is a lie. Today is a perfect example of that. So these CAFE standards used what was contrary to the law. The Congress set a rule that says you have to look at combustion engines. Biden and Buttigieg actually did an analysis using.
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EV and hybrids to come up with a 62 mile an hour per gallon standard, which I think the car companies will tell you is completely unattainable. So they spent a lot of money on technology, trying to meet the unattainable standard, driving up the cost of a car, number one. And then number two, if they couldn't meet the unattainable standard, they had to trade for carbon, costing billions of dollars, and again, driving up the price of the car. So, Mr. President, what Democrats were doing, we're not making cars more affordable, they're making them less affordable. The consequence of that is going to be that more Americans can afford to buy a new car, which means they're going to be safer on the roads because of all the great new technology we have that save lives, so we'll have less death on American roads. These rules are going to allow the automakers to make vehicles that Americans want to purchase, not vehicles that Joe Biden and Buttigieg.
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David Zier
Edge.
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Donald Trump
Edge wants.
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Sean Duffy
Bill, which is important, but also this is important for American jobs. The more cars we sell, the more jobs we have in this country. And so this is jobs, this is freedom, and this is common sense. Mr. President. So thank you for your leadership and I appreciate what the Senate did with the big, beautiful bill and what we've done here today. So thank you.
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Donald Trump
Thank you very much. Big, beautiful bill is. It's something. It's amazing. Wait till the people see the benefits and the lower taxes that they're going to have, have lower regulations. So how about Ford?
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Automobile Industry Representative
Mr. President and Secretary, all the important lawmakers here, competitors. Today is a victory of common sense and affordability. We're very proud of Ford to be the number one auto producer in our country. 80% of the vehicles we sell here, we make in our country, and we never left. Unlike many of our competitors, we're the number one exporter and we have the.
- [36:18]
Hans von Spakovsky
Most auto factory workers.
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Automobile Industry Representative
And this CAFE standard that is aligned with customer demand is the right move for a lot of reasons. We were number two last year in EV sales. We were number three in hybrid. And we're the leading brand for combustion. We believe that people should be able to make a choice, as you said, Mr. President, and we will invest more in affordable vehicles. This allows us to invest in affordable vehicles made in the US which we will take the lead on and will allow us to make vehicles more affordable. So thank you for making this step.
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Donald Trump
For all of you, thank you very much. One of the other things we're doing, it's separate from this meeting, but I think everybody here would agree with it. If you go to Japan, where I took just left, and if you go to South Korea and Malaysia and other countries, they have a very small car, sort of like the Beetle used to be with the Volkswagen. They're very small, they're really cute. And I said how would that do in this country? And everyone seems to think good, but you're not allowed to build them. And I've authorized the secretary to immediately approve the production of those cars. So you'll be able to buy any. They really are. They're actually. Some of them are really beautiful actually. If you take a look, Honda.
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Some of the Japanese companies do a beautiful job, but we're not allowed to make them in this country. And I think you're going to do very well with those cars. So we're going to approve those cars. Would you like to say something about that?
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Sean Duffy
Well, no, just that he never stops working. So even when he's on Asian time, he's calling me at midnight in the States. But he gave me the directive to clear the regulations on this which we have. And so if Toyota or any other company wants to make smaller, more affordable cars fuel efficient, we have cleared the deck so they can make them in America and sell them in America.
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Donald Trump
They're really nice and less expensive and it really gives people a chance to have a car, have a brand new car car as opposed to a car that maybe isn't so great. And so you car companies start thinking about that. I think it's, I think it's going to be a tremendous market. Please, would you like to say something?
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David Zier
Thank you, Mr. President. It's a great day for us at Stellantis today because it's day where we see CAFE regulation reconciled with real customers demand. That's why at Stellantis we decided to invest to Jeep run Dodge and Chrysler. $13 billion in the next four years, increasing production by 50%, delivering to the market five new vehicles and creating 5,000 additional jobs. That's because we believe in what you segue and all your team is doing in this country. We believe in growth and we are ready to invest even more. So thank you very much, thank you very much for this great news of the caicars which we are very interested in and we are very looking forward to work with secretary Dafe, your team in the future for the next Steps. Thank you very much.
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Donald Trump
We'll get ready for those cars because we've already cleared the way. You can start right away.
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David Zier
We will. Thank you very much, Mr. President.
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Donald Trump
Thank you very much. Please.
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Automobile Industry Representative
Mr. President, thank you so much for having me. We support your leadership for this issue.
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Hans von Spakovsky
That is so important to the auto industry.
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Automobile Industry Representative
I'm here representing, representing the hard working men and women of Orient assembly in Michigan.
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Steve Guerril
The facility, our manufacturing facility there is.
- [39:48]
Automobile Industry Representative
Currently going through a retool so that.
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Hans von Spakovsky
We can build additional US manufactured pickup.
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Automobile Industry Representative
Trucks and full size port utilities for our customers. And we're so excited about that.
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Steve Guerril
Thank you for your support. Secretary Duffy, thank you as well.
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Donald Trump
And this is largely coming in because of the tariff situation we have with. We're taking in trillions of dollars, actually. Trillions. And we have so many other advantages. But these great companies are coming back to the United States. They left the United States. If somebody was sitting behind this desk that knew what they were doing, that wouldn't have happened. They would have said, well, you can sell your car here, but we're going to put 100% tariff and you would have never had the auto industry leave again. We lost more than 50% of our auto industry and now it's all coming back, back. And I think it's coming back. Ultimately it's going to be bigger. I believe it's going to be bigger than it was before, actually. But it's an honor to have you here and please would you like to say thank you very much.
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Automobile Industry Representative
Tom Castrator Sir, I'm the chairman of National Automobile dealers and represent 18,000 dealers in the country along with 3,000 heavy duty truck dealers. And what the actions that you've done as the president and your administration is definitely going to save our customers money. And you made your promises that let the consumer buy what they want, sir, and you delivered on that. And the other thing that you delivered was your promise in the big beautiful bill, the tax deduction on loans that had gone away some years back and now that makes it affordable for our buyers that can save money through that loan of the tax anywhere from several hundred to several thousand. So again, sir, on behalf of all the deal dealers and our customers, we appreciate what you and your administration have done and of course our legislative support as well.
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Donald Trump
Mr. President, thank you, that's very nice and I'm glad you brought that up. We're allowing people to deduct. So if you go out and buy a car and this is for middle income but for lower income, no matter what, they never really had Deductions. You know, rich people like deductions, but middle income people were never really affected, afforded deductions, which is very unfair. You borrow money to buy a car, you're allowed to deduct the interest from your income tax. And I think that's going to be one of the most in terms of your industry. I think it's going to be the biggest thing that we're talking about, maybe even bigger than CAFE standards. People are going to be able to borrow money, deduct it. So it's going to cost them essentially half and they'll be.
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Automobile Industry Representative
It'll help. Yes, sir.
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Donald Trump
I think it's going to be a tremendous. They've never had a chance to do that before. And that's all done. That's all in the great big beautiful bill. So it's really terrific. I'd like to ask a couple of our political leaders to say, because you guys have done an amazing job, this was something that was going to be very tough. We had to fight lunatics to get it done. And they had no answers. You know, it's, you just present them with the facts and they just say, well, we're just not going to vote for it. They couldn't talk about it, but they didn't want to vote. I see. Mike Kelly, my friend back there has been with me from day one, right?
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Automobile Industry Representative
Yep.
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Donald Trump
What do you have to say, Mike?
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Automobile Industry Representative
Well, you know what? I think you hit the key. Everybody's talking about the same thing in America.
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Donald Trump
Look at the way they like each other.
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You can see there's no hatred between these two guys as long as I.
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Automobile Industry Representative
Beat his price to work with friends. But you get a hit on the head. The American people have always been able to choose what they want to buy. They don't want to be taken out of the market by people who quite frankly, don't even drive their own car. And saying, this is the way you've got to go going into the future and say, well, you may say that, but you're not in the market. You have no idea. And I know the business we're in. At the end of the day, if you were there with me, I'd say, I'll say, Mr. President, other than price, what's keeping you from taking the car home today? It's always price and the fact that we can build a car that's affordable, that people want to buy, that's the key to it. What you've done is unlock the most ridiculous statute that ever came in with cafe. It wasn't done by The Congress. It was done by President Obama after the courts failed on it. So thank you for doing what you're doing. You're making America great again in every single way. Thank you.
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Donald Trump
Thank you. It's going to be so big for the auto manufacturers. People aren't even going to believe the impact this has. You know, Mike used to come to my rallies all the time. We'd have a rally, it was like zero degrees, it was freezing everywhere. And he'd sit there without a shirt.
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Automobile Industry Representative
On.
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Donald Trump
And I didn't need that. You know, I didn't say it was pretty, but he would sit there in the gold and he didn't mind it at all. I said, that's one tough cookie, right?
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Hans von Spakovsky
You lit it up.
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Automobile Industry Representative
We didn't need anything.
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Donald Trump
We had a good time. We had a lot of great rallies.
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Podcast Advertiser/Announcer
We did.
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Automobile Industry Representative
We did.
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Donald Trump
Pennsylvania, please. Mr. Congressman.
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Automobile Industry Representative
Thank you, Mr. Thank you, Mr. President. I represent the dealer. I'm a dealer, and we got some other dealers in here. But this is huge for the dealer body, the local car dealer. We're going to be able to sell what the customer wants. The manufacturer's going to make what the customer wants. We've got all kinds of options to the big bill that's going to enable people, as we talked about, to deduct payments and so forth. As we say in the business, they've never been cheaper than they are today, Mr. President. And it's going to be a great opportunity for them, the dealer body, to sell what consumers want. And 99% of the businesses in America are small businesses. Many are. Car dealers employ a lot of people. It's going to be a great year for us. We appreciate your leadership, and we appreciate, from a retail standpoint, we appreciate the manufacturers going to step up and build cars that customers want and that we want to sell. So thank you very much. Makes it a great country.
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Donald Trump
He's also a very brave congressman because he was there on the baseball field that horrible day with Steve Scalise and some other people. He was hit, but he took it very well. He took it very well. You're my pal. Thank you. Thanks. Great job.
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Automobile Industry Representative
Appreciate it.
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Donald Trump
Great job. Appreciate it. Kevin, could you say a few words of wisdom? One of the really smart economic forecasters, I will tell you, beyond an economist, he's a real forecaster.
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Automobile Industry Representative
Please, sir, I think that there's a massive macroeconomic benefit to what we're doing today. And the way to think about it is that the car that has the best gas mileage that you could buy, that has only Gasoline is a Honda that gets about 36 miles per gallon. Joe Biden wanted to make every car on average be above 50. So there's no car made in the US that you would be able to sell two years from now, three years from now under that rule. Because what he wanted to do was make everybody have an electric car, as you know. But here's the thing. If everybody had an electric car, then nobody would be buying gasoline anymore and they'd have to take all the miles that they travel and put it on the grid. And so we would have to increase the production of electricity in the US by 25% over the next couple of years if they had their way. And so you've really stopped a massive disruption for the economy with this. So thank you, sir.
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Donald Trump
That was the main reason. Reason. And yet it certainly is a main reason. You wouldn't have been able to do it even if you wanted it. Just so crazy. That was the mandate which we ended. Troy, would you like to say something? Great honor.
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Automobile Industry Representative
Thank you. My family is a former dealer, 48.
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Donald Trump
Years Chrysler, Dodge dealer. And then I got into the political world, sir. I had more fun in the dealership world, but I miss it. But I still play big role in automobiles and grateful. I remember under President Obama when the.
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Sean Duffy
CAFE standards changed as Mike brought up.
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Donald Trump
And going through those challenging times as a Chrysler dealer, before Stellantis came along.
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Automobile Industry Representative
It was Daimler before you guys got it.
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Donald Trump
So thank you very much for being here and making these changes. And as you said, that interest on the car loan piece was big.
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Automobile Industry Representative
And I know that Bernie led the.
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Donald Trump
Charge on that in the Senate and getting the one big beautiful bill, that really is a big deal. And people need to understand how big a deal that is. They did a great job. And by the way, we had a great victory last night.
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Matt is going to be a great.
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Automobile Industry Representative
Kind of like our race.
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Donald Trump
He's going to be a great congressman, I think. Really like us, right? Yeah, like us. One of my early endorsements, right? Yes, sir. Can we talk about it? Right here is a man come in, let me say hello to him. Please. Go ahead. I think.
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Political Supporter/Guest
Thank you, Mr. President, for your leadership. But the thing I've admired most, you've been in business, you've been in the battles over the years, and you're helping us lead us out. Most people that are up here have no idea about business or small business. Makes a big difference. One is. Number two is, I would just say in terms of the tax stuff, we're talking about one of the things that get missed. And I'm in Florida, Sarasota region is the ability to deduct. Most people have a small business, they'll have a lawn business, they'll have this that they buy a new or used truck. They can take that deduction. Let's say they're in a 20% tax bracket, but the vehicle's 60 grand. They can take 20% of the 60 grand, get a $12,000 write off, they can pay their payments for the first year. That's a powerful tool. We don't talk about. I don't know why, but at the end of the day, because of what you've put in place, full expensing, that's the tool that would use. And you could just think about all the people in Florida, just general places. They're buying old vans or new vans or buying trucks, mainly trucks. And they're getting a deduction. They don't even have a payment for a year.
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Donald Trump
That's right.
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Political Supporter/Guest
So one of the best things for.
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Donald Trump
One of the biggest things in the.
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Political Supporter/Guest
Expensing is a powerful tool. They can write the whole asset off the first year, take that deduction, put 12,000 in their pocket on a 20,000. Let me mention one other thing. They got into the E vehicles, electric cars. And I'm talking to dealers that come in and come in and talk to me. And basically they couldn't sell one, they couldn't give one away. And when these companies or they got in because of whatever political pressure under the Biden administration and they end up realizing that they got no market, a guy says the car's been sitting there a year, I can't get rid of it. So they don't understand the market. The people produce the vehicles. And that's made a big difference in your leadership. But thanks for what you're doing here today. It's big. It's huge. It'll make a big difference. $12,000 on a $60,000 vehicle up front, day one. Thank you.
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Donald Trump
Thank you very much. You know, we're just talking about something that's interesting Ford would make. And I don't want to speak for Ford because we have one of the top people right now.
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Automobile Industry Representative
Mr. President is fine if you want to.
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Donald Trump
Ford would make numerous electric cars in order to sell one. Ford 150 because they'd make all their money with the 150.
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Automobile Industry Representative
Yes.
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Donald Trump
And they were willing to lose money on building two or three electric cars that they couldn't sell in order to make some money on the 150 because the 150 is a monster. I'll tell you what, that no matter where you go, they love that Ford 150. But isn't it a ridiculous model when you have to build two or three cars that you know you're not going to be selling or not be selling for much in order to really do something that you should have the right to do, which is make a car that you want to make.
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David Zier
Yes.
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Donald Trump
And that the market wants. Right. So Congratulations on the 150.
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Automobile Industry Representative
Thank you. Best selling vehicle in the United States.
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Podcast Advertiser/Announcer
Just saying.
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Automobile Industry Representative
Now it's 100% built in the.
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Donald Trump
Now it's all I'm going to do. No, but it really is.
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Steve Guerril
It's amazing.
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Donald Trump
It's an amazing brand. There was a lot of stupid things done here. What would you like to say?
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Podcast Advertiser/Announcer
Yeah, thank you, Mr. President and Secretary Duffy and all of us. You know, one of the last times I was here is when you signed the Electric Vehicle CRA Congressional Review act, that all of us participated in the beginning of really making common sense, because it was going to impact 17 other states and really a large part of our economy. This is about affordability here. I'm just going to say one thing. Well, maybe I already said one thing. So now I'm going to say two things. When we talk about a car and auto, we sort of talk about just, oh, we need a car. Do you know what a car does for a family? You can take your children to school. You can go to the school store, you can visit your mother, you can go to church. You can have a job. You have the flexibility that you need. A car for an American family is about a roadway to prosperity.
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Donald Trump
Big deal.
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Podcast Advertiser/Announcer
It's a big deal. And so by making them more affordable, making them more choice, driven by what families want and need, today is a great day for the American family.
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Steve Guerril
Absolutely.
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Podcast Advertiser/Announcer
Thank you. And they're an American worker.
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Donald Trump
Sail.
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Podcast Advertiser/Announcer
Well, thank you, Mr. President and Secretary Duffy. And to my colleagues that are here in Tennessee, we make great automobiles and we have a fantastic workforce. And whether you're GM or Ford with their new investment in Tennessee, or Nissan or VW or Toyota with the engine plant, what you see is the component that are necessary to build these cars. And removing these standards and making cars more affordable does mean that more people will purchase them, but it also means we're going to have to make more cars to meet that demand. And for Tennessee, that is a great thing.
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Donald Trump
So, you know, I'm just sitting here and I'm thinking, like, we have the biggest auto manufacturers in the world. They're talking about investing billions and billions. They're investing it as we speak, but billions and billions of dollars in our country, thank you very much. And they're here. They're not like, well, maybe we'll do it. They're doing it because of tariffs and they're doing it because of maybe they like the President. And we're doing things like this for them, which frankly, no matter who you are, this should be done. And we're doing things like deductibility of interest. When you borrow money to buy a car, you're allowed to deduct it from your income tax. That is a massive tax cut for people that probably are going to be trying to buy that car anyway. And I really think that that interest factor is going to be one of the biggest things. I was proud of that because I thought of it and it seems so simple. Other people are allowed big interest. If you're a rich person, you're allowed to have big interest deductions for different things you do. But if you're a middle income person, has to buy a car, you were never entitled to anything. And now you're getting a full interest deduction on the loan. And I think that's going to have one of the biggest impacts. But we're here with companies that are investing tens of billions of dollars in our country as we speak. It's not going to be in two years, years or three years. A lot of it's because of the expensing provision in the bill and the big beautiful bill. But a miracle is happening in our country. It's a miracle. This is just the auto industry, but we have other industries where it's the same thing they're building all over our country. And something this is a revolution is happening. It's a business revolution. It's a jobs revolution revolution. It's a car revolution. We're bringing back the car industry that was stolen from us because we have people that didn't know what they were doing sitting at this desk and they put the wrong people in because they weren't advised properly. And this is really an incredible thing that's happening. Go ahead, Kevin.
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David Zier
Well, thank you, Mr. President. And I think in many respects pretty much everything that could be said has been extended. Except that I think what Kevin talks about in terms of the cascading economic opportunity from this one single event is just the tip of the iceberg. When you think of all the rules and regulations that you have repealed, I think it's more important, frankly, than the tax cuts. However, in The Working Family Tax Cuts Act. Remember, we made permanent a lot of really good policy from the first Trump era, not the least of which for small businesses, is bonus depreciation, the opportunity to depreciate the year that you purchase an F150 for your small business or a large truck for your farm. I just think we're going to roll into 2026 and we're going to see an escalation of economic opportunity the likes of which I probably have never seen.
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Donald Trump
I think nobody has ever seen it, nobody in the world, because there's never been 18 or whatever it ends up being. In 10 months, we have $18 trillion being invested. We never had $1 trillion being invested. And Biden had much less than that. Think of it, he had less than a trillion over four years. We have $18 trillion in 10 months, and it's actually as of nine months. So there's never been anything. Eric. Yeah.
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Automobile Industry Representative
Mr. President, thank you. And on behalf of the people of the great state, State of Missouri, who we actually make things from F15s to F47s now, thanks to you, we'll be building the F47 and then F150s. And those are real jobs. And we make things in Missouri. This is going to go a long way, I think, for making things more affordable for normal people. Nothing could be more American than driving a car on a highway. And this is going to make that more accessible for more people. So thanks for your leadership.
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Donald Trump
Your state's doing a great job.
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Automobile Industry Representative
They love you too.
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Donald Trump
It's a great place. Thank you. Please.
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Steve Guerril
Thank you. Mr. President, I'm going to talk to.
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Hans von Spakovsky
You in just a minute from a.
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Steve Guerril
Rural'S perspective because these CAFE standards were absolutely unworkable in rural Missouri. We need vehicles that are practical and affordable and it can haul for small businesses, for agriculture, and it just simply didn't work. Those CAFE standards didn't work.
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Donald Trump
So I applaud you and Secretary Duffy for this is an iHeart podcast, Guaranteed Human.