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Steve Gruber
And welcome to America's Voice Live. I'm Steve Gruber. It is Monday, the 19th of January, the year of our Lord 2026. Let's get to the day's top stories. Could the US really move to acquire Greenland? If diplomacy doesn't work, why are Iran's escalating crackdowns prompting fresh warnings from President Trump? I'll bring on a veteran and former congressman to discuss foreign policy affairs in that regard. Also, President Trump gearing up for a trip over to Davos, Switzerland, to speak at the World Economic Forum's annual assembly later this week. I'll check in with our chief White House correspondent Brian Glenn for a live update from Davos. And then later, I'll discuss the ongoing protests in Minneapolis and how anti ice protesters decided to take their efforts into a church to disrupt services on Sunday, an incident that's now being investigated by the Department of Justice. All that and so much more coming up. But first, I want to circle back to foreign policy. To start the program today, President Trump's renewed interest in Greenland is shaking up European politics. The island is no doubt a key piece of US Strategy in the Arctic, and it's there for national defense. Rich in minerals, positioned on vital shipping lanes, and already home to America's most arctic air base. That combination gives Greenland major military and economic importance as tensions with China and Russia continue to rise. To advance that strategy, President Trump has warned European governments that Washington is ready to hit them with steep tariffs up to 25% unless they're willing to negotiate on Greenland. It's really important. EU officials recently called an emergency summit to discuss a response and are considering a massive counterterroriff package. Brussels claims the pressure campaign is economic blackmail, while the White House argues it's simply putting America first and defending long term strategic interests. It's really important. For Trump, Greenland isn't a gimmick. It's part of a broader plan to secure the Arctic and keep U.S. u.S. Rivals like China and Russia in check. Joining me to discuss is national security analyst Rebecca Grant. Rebecca, thank you for being here.
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Rebecca Grant
Glad to be here.
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Steve Gruber
Look, the, the overtures to it to acquire Greenland go back to 1867, right after we bought Alaska. It was also pretty important in the discussions. In 1946, Harry Truman offered $100 million, equivalent to about one and a half billion dollars in today's money. President Eisenhower also put together a plan, but made no formal offer. So it's been in the mix for a long time and now because of incursions by Russia and China, it's come to the forefront. The Europeans don't like it, and to me, I say that's not really relevant. It's part of the Golden Dome plan. It's part of America's national security, isn't it?
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Rebecca Grant
Well, Truman and Eisenhower were right. It's a prime piece of real estate. If you're looking at the threat routes for Russian or Chinese ballistic missiles, you have got to have Greenland to secure the approaches to the US and to Canada. Now, remember, President Trump realized this back during his first term and you know, I love what he's doing. We've gone from Greenland. Oh, maybe it's a problem. Maybe we should think about Arctic security to suddenly, Greenland is at the top of the agenda for NATO, the top of the agenda for the eu and he is going to get this problem solved one way or another. Either cash and car or NATO will put the resources in Greenland to make it the defensive bastion it needs to be.
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Steve Gruber
Well, let's be honest about this. I don't believe that NATO would step up and help America or has the resources. Look, they've neglected their militaries for decades. We all know that the only respectable military on the European continent anymore is probably France. But Germany and the uk, they're not respectable. And Denmark, the Kingdom of Denmark, yes, they're a lovely country that sends six or eight soldiers when we're in a conflict, but that's not gonna protect us from Russian and Chinese incursions. And now we see Canada and Mark Carney cozying up with the Chinese. I mean, I see problems all over the playing field.
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Rebecca Grant
Well, that's right. And the threat of China has been pretty clear for a long time. So a lot of the activity over Greenland is to send that signal to China that we're not gonna tolerate any influence there, and really to send the signal to Denmark as well. Now, Denmark's a good ally. NATO's a good. All stronger militaries are in the east, as you point out, like Poland. But we do have to do something. We'll either see a diplomatic resolution on Greenland or something else, but Trump will get it done. Back to Canada, they have gone and made a trade deal with China. And there's some good aspects to it, there's some bad aspects to it. Trump himself said, good, go out and make a deal, because you know what he realizes and that we're all learning, is that now you've got to have trade and confrontation in your security policy. You can't just do military. You got to do trade and military together.
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Steve Gruber
Right? Hit them where it hurts. Hit them in the bottom line. Hit them in their gdp. That makes a difference to people. So let's talk about that for a moment, because the threats of tariffs on European countries, on allies, not sitting well. Some say that if the United States pushes forward and gets control of Greenland, which I believe we will before Donald Trump leaves office, and maybe significantly sooner, we will have operational control there. And some, some of the analysts say, well, that will blow up NATO. I don't know if that's true. But on the other side of that, Rebecca, you say it's a. It's a good organization, it's a good alliance. But is it, after all their neglect of their militaries, after all their neglect of putting in what they promised and not keeping up with what they said they would do to protect Europe and to protect the North Atlantic and the United States and Canada. Where is NATO today compared to where it was 25 years ago or is at the end of World War II?
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Rebecca Grant
Well, President Trump believes that NATO has turned a corner. Now, he holds their feet to the fire, but he has secured that pledge to get up to 5% of GDP after 2030. Some partners, like Poland, is already spending 4.7%. So. And Naito is not going to break up over Greenland because everyone is way too scared about Putin, the ongoing war in Ukraine, a resurgent Russia. They all know that Russia is a generational threat. That's why Trump can play hardball, because NATO is going to stick together. And as for the tariffs, I love it when he uses the tariff weapon. Don't forget, the European Union is pretty nasty in some of their tariffs and taxes that they put on US Companies, particularly our tech companies, with the Digital Services act, they're trying to put together a space treaty that would be hard on Starlink and on Amazon, Leo and all those. So, you know, the EU is really not good to the US a lot of times, not maybe the partners, but the European Union as an entity. So I look, he's threatened these tariffs are going to start at 10%, go to 25%. And guess what? The deadline is in June. That's right before another big NATO summit. So I think what he's doing is just hurrying up the alliance and Denmark, of course, to come to the agreements. Whether we end up with Greenland or Greenland stays sovereign on its own, we have to have no Chinese and Russian presence there, and we've got to have the ability to have our forces there. Bidufiq space base up there in the Arctic Circle is absolutely critical, not just for the missile defense that I talked about, but also for tracking space satellites on orbit, both ours and the Chinese ones.
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Steve Gruber
Absolutely true. Now, looking at Europe, there's a reason no innovation comes out of Europe anymore. Our GDP has exceeded that of the eu. We continue to get wealthier in America. They have gone flatline over there. Even though they have 100 million more people. Their policies, generally speaking, don't work particularly well. Too much socialism, not enough capitalism. And like you say, all these attacks on social media and other things like free speech, trying to penalize American companies, I think that's going to get shut down as well. What are your thoughts?
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Rebecca Grant
Oh, that is such a great point. Europe is just not innovating with one or two exceptions. Our tech companies are so far ahead, and so all they do is try to regulate and impose taxes. They love to try to put taxes on American companies. And, you know, President Trump and the administration are really, really pushing back on that. So you are. You are absolutely 100% right in making that point. Now, there's still an important ally through NATO, but again, this is why we see trade and tariffs and the bilateral negotiations now such an important part of our overall security policy.
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Steve Gruber
Absolutely true. And before I leave, Mark Carney and Canada and their new deal with China, okay, President Trump thinks it's a good deal as far as that goes. Alberta does not. Alberta is now playing hardball again. That province, which they can vote themselves out of, Canada. And I think this is a real possibility because of the uncertainty. And Alberta feels they're abused by Ottawa. And if that happens, if Alberta leaves, then Quebec leaves, Canada ceases to exist. As we know it. Do you think that's a real possibility? I think that the cards are there now in a way they weren't just a couple of years ago.
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Rebecca Grant
And the irony is Prime Minister Mark Carney grew up in Alberta, so he knows the western provinces need agricultural products. Deal with China for canola oil and the other seed products. In return, they're going to buy about 49,000 Chinese EVs at a low tariff. Probably be okay, but they'll be sorry that they let China in. I hope Canada stays together. We need them as a good northern ally. But they've had these tensions and it is time for this all to come out and be on the table. Don't forget, King Charles of Great Britain is still the head of state. So King Charles does have the final say about what Canada does.
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Steve Gruber
You know, I just quickly, you mentioned the EVs going into Canada. 49,000 lotairas. I saw that. I read about that. It's zero in Winnipeg right now. It's zero in Edmonton. I'm sorry, but EVs do not operate particularly well in cold climates in Canada. A good portion of it, it's pretty cold. You really think they're going to work.
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Rebecca Grant
There where you already have to plug your battery in in Winnipeg? So it depends on the battery technology. The problem, of course, this is how China does it. They undercut initially in the market that' there was a 100% tariff and they're going to undercut, do a small entry into the Canadian market and then try to push for more. So I hope that they, they lock that down and don't go any further. We don't. I don't want any Chinese EVs in North America, full stop. Not a single one. If I could do it, I would.
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Steve Gruber
Agree with you on that. Last thing I want to ask you about. China took a major setback, as did Russia when we picked Maduro out of Venezuela. That was a big setback for China, Russia, Iran, Cuba. Cuba's in real trouble because all of their oil comes from Venezuela has been cut off. 100 could teeter and fall without a single shot being fired. As you look at that as it's been a couple of weeks now, what is the aggregate impact on those countries I just mentioned?
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Rebecca Grant
Well, the big takeaway is that the United States is back in the Western Hemisphere and we're not going to tolerate the Chinese, Russian, Iran, Hezbollah influence in Venezuela that we saw. So if they're successful, they have a very careful, persistent, realistic policy in Venezuela. Let's see that country turn around and that'll be a nice bulwark against China going forward.
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Steve Gruber
Rebecca Grant, Always a pleasure to hear your perspectives. Thank you, thank you. Greatly appreciate it. All right, when we come back after the break, I'll continue the discussion of foreign policy affairs with a former congressman and retired army veteran, including the prospect of US Acquisition of Greenland and the possibility of a US Intervention in Iran. That's still on the table. Stay tuned for the latest on America's Voice Live.
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I want to remain with our focus on Greenland and the possible acquisition by the United States in some fashion. It doesn't mean we're going to invade the place. We're not. I want to bring an army veteran, former congressman and executive director of the American Constitutional Rights Union, Lieutenant Colonel Allen West. Colonel, nice to see you again on a Monday. Look, we've made it clear the United States is back in the Western Hemisphere. Rebecca Grant and I were just talking about that. We've established that we're not going to allow China and Russia and Iran and Cuba and others to infiltrate Venezuela unchallenged. That's over. But Greenland is the largest unsinkable aircraft carrier in the North Atlantic. It's pivotal to this Golden Dome missile defense system. It's pivotal to the protection of the NATO alliance. And yet the NATO countries are screaming foul because the President says, look, Denmark has not done what it needs to do to strengthen security for Greenland. France hasn't. UK hasn't. Germany hasn't. We're at a turning point here, and this is not new. We've gone all the way back to 1867. Then President Truman, President Eisenhower, others made, you know, overtures to try to acquire Greenland. Now it's more important than ever. How do you see this playing out? What is your best guess?
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Lieutenant Colonel Allen West
Well, if you go back in history, you can see exactly what we did with Alaska because we were concerned about that threat as well. And today we have the 11th Airborne Division Arctic that is stationed up there in Alaska along with Air Force assets as well. And we still do have a weather station that is there on the island of Greenland. But I think the most important thing is we look at how we can establish joint and combine military basing there in Greenland. I think that that would Benefit the people very well. I think a lot of the talk about taking Greenland, invading Greenland, whatever, there's a lot of hyperbolic talk. But let's really. Let's get to the issue at hand. We would need to have some type of, as you said, a force there on the largest aircraft carrier in this hemisphere so that we can deter what Russia and China would seek to do. Especially as you talked about with your previous guests, now that we have Canada and Mark Carney going in cozy with China, inviting them into the hemisphere.
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Steve Gruber
Right. And in the southern part of the Western hemisphere, in Venezuela, they tried to come in and look, I've been in a number of countries. In Central America, there's Chinese infiltration north to south in the Western Hemisphere, in the islands in Central America and South America. They're everywhere, aren't they?
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Lieutenant Colonel Allen West
Yeah, Panama. You look at the great. One of the greatest engineering feats ever, the Panama Canal. Jimmy Carter stupidly gave it back over to Panama, and guess who ends up running it? It's the Chinese. And why did we create the Panama Canal? It was for national security to be able to transit our Atlantic and Pacific fleets back and forth between those respective theaters of operation. So we have got to reestablish ourselves in this hemisphere. And I think that one of the things is that we don't need to make the people of Greenland enemies to us. I know that they were wearing certain red hats and things of this nature, but we should talk about them being independent. We should talk about making sure that we can provide them a security blanket like we did for most of Europe for so very long. But you're right. The Europeans just are not up to this task right now. And especially the Kingdom of Denmark. I don't think that they're ready to provide the defense shield and umbrella for Greenland that is necessary.
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Steve Gruber
There's no chance. I mean, the Kingdom of Denmark fell in like, five minutes to the Nazis. And during World War II, we had the Greenland defense Pact. For that reason, the United States stepped up and defended the island then. Anything happens now, we'll do the same. And no, I think that Greenland most likely maintains its sovereignty, maybe as an independent nation, but with a very close working relationship with the United States. Look, we can do a lot of good things for the people there. 58,000 people. We can enrich them. They can have better lives, better opportunities, and really become prosperous. Look, they've been basically ignored. Let's just be honest about that. Denmark has basically ignored Greenland until, you know, we bring up the topic of, hey, we should probably Own this. And then, of course, the left goes crazy, Their media allies go crazy. They didn't when Truman did it, they didn't when Eisenhower did it, and they didn't in the past. Again, the only difference Donald Trump suggested. So therefore it must be bad. Right? I mean, that's the mentality. And it's a sad state of affairs. Affairs, yeah.
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Lieutenant Colonel Allen West
It's the Orange man bad syndrome. And let's be very honest, there's not a lot of love between the Greenlanders and also Denmark. Let's remember some of the brutal policies that Denmark has instituted against the people there in Greenland, like forced sterilization and trying to maintain some type of population control that has never been very popular with the people there. So, by the way, if we can talk.
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Steve Gruber
I'm glad you mentioned that. Yeah, I'm really glad you mentioned the forced sterilization that went into the late 80s, into the early 90s. People don't know the history of Greenland. The forced sterilization of the people there. And a lot more. Just horrible, tyrannical things were done to those folks. And no respect, you know, they're barely considered in any policies or politics. So when we step up and say, hey, we should have this under operational control, that doesn't mean we're going to run an army in there. That's not going to happen. But we are going to have operational control. I believe. Last word on Greenland here.
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Lieutenant Colonel Allen West
No, I think it's very important. Once again, you cannot be the leader of the free world if you're not a leader in your own hemisphere. And as you just articulated, from top to bottom, from north to south.
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Steve Gruber
All right, so let's shift gears. I want to go to Iran. The protests in the streets, Millions of people across 200 cities. Iran's 92 million people, they're yearning to be free, just like Americans do. It's not just a thing for Americans. It's part of the human spirit to be free. Not to be crushed, not to be told what you can think and what you can do. And the people of Iran, I feel, have put that country at a point, a tipping point we haven't seen in 47 years. How do you see this playing out? Because Donald Trump has said, if you continue to kill your own people in the streets, there will be a price to pay for that. Your thoughts?
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Lieutenant Colonel Allen West
Yeah. Isn't it interesting that we see this happening in the 250th year of our independence, when we said we did not want to live by the buy or leave of some other tyrannical government. I think Donald Trump has showed the Iranian people that he will be there to set the conditions for their success, unlike Barack Obama, unlike Joe Biden. And that's why they continue to be out in the streets. And how interesting it is because now you see the mullahs and the ayatollahs, they tried to have some type of talks and negotiations with President Trump and now they're trying to even blame their economic woes on the United States of America when is them destroying their economy because they keep supporting all of this Islamic terrorism and not supporting their own people. So I think that you will see the regime there in Iran topple. I think the most important thing is the separate the IRGC and the Basji forces away from what they're able to do in attacking these people. Because the everyday run of the day Iranian soldier is really on the side of the people.
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Steve Gruber
But the concern that I always have in a scenario like this, we've seen it many times in your lifetime and mine is you trade the devil you know for the devil you don't. I mean, it's possible you end up with something worse, I suppose. I don't know, it'd be much worse than this. But it's always a possibility that other bad actors come in to fill the vacuum if that government falls, right?
- [26:00]
Lieutenant Colonel Allen West
Yeah, that is a possibility. But I think right now what you see, Russia and China have really been separated away from Iran. And I don't think you're going to see the rise of a new Islamic jihadist regime. I think that these people want to get back to what Iran was before the Ayatollah was there. It was a very western country and it's a very young country as far as their age demographic. And again, they want freedoms, they want liberties. They don't want to be under the boot of these Islamic jihadists.
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Steve Gruber
Absolutely true, Colonel. Always appreciate talking to you. Thank you for stopping in. We'll talk again soon.
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Lieutenant Colonel Allen West
My pleasure. God be with you, Steve.
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Steve Gruber
God be with you, my friend. All right, we're going to take a break here and when we come back, President Trump is gearing up for a trip to Davos, Switzerland to speak to the World Economic Forum. 2026 happens a little bit later this week. I'll check in with Brian Glenn next from Davos for the latest.
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Brian Glenn
Thanks, Steve. Yes, we're here in Davos as just hours ago. Opening ceremonies just kicked off here. Now, President Trump is not scheduled to be at Davos until Tuesday and he's planning to speak at 8am Eastern Time on Wednesday and then short remarks on Thursday. Now, here's who is in attendance. We have over 400 top political leaders.
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Steve Gruber
From around the world.
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Brian Glenn
You're talking every country in NATO and then some. We've got 65 heads of state, 850 top CEOs and cat and cabinet members of major US and European corporations. Who was not in attendance is Claus Schwab, who is the age of 71, founded this back in 1971, will not be in attendance here for several legal reasons. Celebrity notes we might want to add. David Beckham will be here. Matt Damon will. I am. Yo Yo Ma is here as well. And wrapping up is Ama Clooney will speak on behalf of celebrities here at Davos. But all focus this year is on a spirit of dialogue, of bringing people together. And of course, of all the world news going on US Involvement in Venezuela, Colombia, potentially Cuba. And of course, on the forefront, it's Greenland. Lots of conversation about trade tariffs in relation to the US President Trump coming to this World Economic Forum as a sense of doing away and kicking over the apple cart, if you will, for the old world order and installing a new world order. We'll have more details on all of this as the days continue wrap up right here on Real America's Voice. Behind me, a beautiful, beautiful backdrop here in Switzerland as all eyes are on Davos this year. Brian Glenn, for real America's Voice. Back to you guys in the studio.
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Steve Gruber
All right, Brian, thank you for that. By the way, I just saw a note here. Denmark will not be attending the World Economic Forum assembly there in Davos. So they're not going to appear. I don't know why, but I can tell you they're not going to be there. I believe that Donald Trump's going to go there to deliver the terms of surrender financially, economically to the EU nations and say, here's what we're going to continue to do. We're going to continue to put out tariffs. We're going to use our military and our economic strength to reset the world order. That's what's happening. He's serious about it and he's not going to take no for an answer. I look forward to hearing his remarks on Wednesday, 8am Eastern Time as Brian Just let us know now. Everyday Americans can make choices that shape our country's future right down to which cell phone provider we support. Here's what most people don't realize. Patriot Mobile isn't just a wireless provider. They're an activist organization funded by selling their top tier cell phone service. They've been on the front lines defending our freedoms long before it was cool to do that. Standing in the gap when others would not. The best part is this. They deliver prioritized premium service on all three major US networks, giving you the same or even better coverage than you have now. Backed by a 100% US based customer support team, get unlimited data, mobile hotspots, international roaming and so much more. I've had it for years. By the way, when you switch to Patriot Mobile, you'll help grow a movement that fuels the Christian conservative cause. Every bill you pay helps advance the values of faith, family and freedom. America first. Switching is easier than ever. Activate in just minutes. You can keep your number, you can keep your phone or you can upgrade. If you feel like it, they can do that too. So take a stand today. Go to patriotmobile.com rav or call 972 Patriot. Use the promo code RAV for a free month of service. You'll be glad you did this. That's patriotmobile.com rav or you can call 972 Patriot. Make the switch today. Like I said, we've had these phones for years. We love it. We love Patriot Mobile. You will too. I'm sure of it. Coming up after the break, I'll discuss the ongoing protests in Minneapolis, of course, and how anti ICE protesters decide to take their efforts into a church led by the disgraced former Anchorage of CNN Don Lemon. We'll have all of that coming up after the break.
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Is a free to play social casino void where prohibited. Visit spinquest.com for more details. Well, not surprisingly, the protests in Minneapolis rage on. But no one could have expected protesters to storm the House of the Lord. But they did that on Sunday. The latest element saw just that as anti ICE protesters disrupted a church service in St. Paul after it was alleged that a pastor was also serving as an ICE official. But when the mob swarmed the church and disrupted the service, they quickly found out that the pastor was not there yet and went on to sour the service. For all the other folks, this is just completely obnoxious. The Department of Justice was prompt to respond to the situation. Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights Harmony Dhillon went on to announce an active civil rights probe into the protesters for desecrating a house of worship. It's not legal. And one of the folks leading that protest, the disgraced former anchor from cnn, Don Lemon. Here he is confronting the pastor after they had stormed this man's church and disrupted his congregation list.
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Mark Lamb
Listen, I have to take care of my flock. Listen, we live in.
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Steve Gruber
There's a constitution in the First Amendment.
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Brian Glenn
To freedom of speech and freedom to assemble and protest.
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Mark Lamb
We're here to worship. We're here to worship Jesus because that's the hope of these cities, that's the hope of the world, is Jesus Christ.
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Steve Gruber
I want to be very respectful. Please don't push me, though.
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Mark Lamb
We're here. We're here to worship Jesus. That's why we're here.
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Steve Gruber
Okay?
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Mark Lamb
That's why we're here. That's what we're about.
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Steve Gruber
Don't you think Jesus would be understanding?
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Mark Lamb
We're about working love these folks. We're about spreading the love of Jesus.
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Steve Gruber
Did you try to talk to them as they.
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Mark Lamb
No one is willing to talk.
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Mark Lamb
I have to take care of my church and my family. So I asked that you actually would also leave this building.
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Steve Gruber
You don't want us to chronicle unless.
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Mark Lamb
You'Re here to worship. I'm always worship.
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Steve Gruber
I'm a Christian. We're here.
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Mark Lamb
Well, we're here to worship. We're here to worship.
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Brian Glenn
Okay.
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Steve Gruber
Thank you very much. He's an agitator and a disgruntled former news anchor. Join me to discuss former or Pinal county sheriff. Congressional candidate for Arizona sheriff, Mark Lamb. Sheriff, nice to see you here today.
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Mark Lamb
Good to see you, too, Steve.
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Steve Gruber
How do we handle this? I mean, this is a violation of federal law, if I'm not mistaken, to disrupt a congregation that's going about their business, minding their own business on Sunday. Worship these people, storm in, intimidate them, start yelling and screaming and saying, say her name. Say her name. Referring to Renee. Good. How long are we going to let this go on?
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Mark Lamb
Well, we shouldn't have let it go on at all, but Don Lemon doesn't even understand the Constitution. The very first thing in the First Amendment of the Constitution is the right to the freedom of religion. Yes, freedom of speech exists, but this is private property, not government. Not government property. And another place where he's wrong on. He says that they have the freedom to. To protest. No, you don't. It is the right. Is the. You have the freedom to peaceably assemble, to petition your government to redress grievances. That's not what's going on here. They went in and disrupted a. A church service and violated their civil rights. And under the Ku Klux Klan act, which is better known as the Civil Rights act, but also the Ku Klux Klan act of 1871, ironically, Don Lemon is violating that. And it says that even if you were a private citizen, which Don and those other people are, they cannot conspire intentionally or unintentionally, to impede on somebody's civil rights, which would include your right to freedom of religion. So Don, on so many levels, doesn't even know what he's talking about, and then he breaks the law, comes in here, violates people's civil rights. But this is large in part, Steve, and I'm sorry to go on so long. This is the causation of failed leadership from Jacob Fry and Governor Wallace, who won't say to the people, folks, stop obstructing our federal law enforcement while they're doing their job. And they get emboldened, and then they do things like this that go into somebody's church and impede it. These are godless people. They don't care about impeding on somebody's religious rights. But the law says otherwise.
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Steve Gruber
Yeah, there are several acts, by the way, that protect churches from being attacked. And the other thing that Don Lemon doesn't understand is. So these other folks that were in there, and this is why they've opened a federal. Federal Department of Justice investigation, you can't just storm onto private property and say, I'm protecting my freedom of speech. Doesn't work that way. You can't storm into my house and start telling me it's freedom of speech. Doesn't work that way, Sheriff. You want to demonstrate in the public square peaceably, that's fine. Peaceably is what it says in the First Amendment. What they're doing here is aggravated. And I just have to wonder honestly about the mental health and well being of some of these folks. They don't have any idea, half of them or more of what they're screaming about or what they're advocating or anything else. They're not advocating for the young women that have been raped and murdered in this country or the families have been killed by drunk drivers, all from people outside of this country. And they continue to target ICE agents. It's a recipe for disaster, isn't it?
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Mark Lamb
Absolutely. They're defending the indefensible criminals who came into this country illegally and who continue to commit crimes in this country, then they break the law by obstructing law enforcement, which isn't the way that you peaceably assemble and petition your government. If you don't like the immigration laws, don't go obstruct law enforcement. That's illegal. Go to your congressional office or go to your Senate and write a petition to them and tell them you have a problem with the law. That's the way the founding father set it up. Only the courts adopted the language of protest later on. But even then, they said it has to be done with peace. If it's outside of that, if it's violent in any way, then you are breaking the law. Law. So there's. This is dangerous. When we don't enforce constitutional law and we don't enforce the law, you start to get lawlessness. And eventually the good people are going to say, we've had enough and we're going to put a stop to it because you, the government, can't.
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Steve Gruber
Absolutely true. Look, we have to put an end to this now. I don't know if the Insurrection act should be used at this point. Look, that's what they want. If Donald Trump issues the Insurrection act, then they can scream, see, he's a dictator. And that's what they'll go with. But what they really want, and I think this is true, Mark, they want Kent State all over again. They want somebody to make a mistake and somebody to get killed that, you know, really wasn't doing anything particularly wrong. So they can say, look, they are Nazis, they are the Gestapo, they're this, they're that, they're everything else. They create the chaos with the hope of creating something much worse that they can hang their hat on. And that's why it has to be stopped. Now, what are your thoughts on the Insurrection Act Act?
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Mark Lamb
Well, look, the Insurrection act exists for situations like this where state government fails, where they put politics in front of people, where they fail to protect people's lives and property, which is what their job is. And then they allow this lawlessness to occur. And not only do they allow it, Steve, they fuel it. They, with their words and their actions, they continue to encourage people to join up with these groups, which are paid agitators. Most of them are being paid, need to go out into these churches to go onto the streets to break the law by obstructing federal law enforcement in the execution of their duties, and by removing criminals off the streets of our communities. These are all violations of the law. And these folks are being paid to do. So the only reason they're not being held accountable is the federal law enforcement doesn't have the resources to go and arrest every single one of them that are breaking the law. So they believe that they're not breaking the law. The reality is, is when you are obstructing law enforcement in their duties or you are concealing, harboring, shielding people in this country illegally, you are breaking the law and it is criminal law.
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Steve Gruber
Last question, got to stop. Yeah, last quick question here. You're out on the campaign trail. How do you think people that are voters see this, the ones that aren't saying anything, that they're not at the protest, that are watching this at home and saying, wait a second, how do you think it's playing on the campaign trail for Republicans, Democrats, Independents, Real quick, last word to you on the campaign trail.
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Mark Lamb
People want to see, they want to see people removed that came to this country illegally. They don't like the lawlessness they're seeing from the left. And furthermore, two publications, Arizona Capital Times, 12 News, both liberal publications, posted about ICE being in our communities, especially in Pinal county where I was the sheriff, and the comments were 99% pro law, pro law enforcement, pro ICE, pro removal of people in this country illegally. And those are on liberal platforms. So the narrative is not the way they want it to be, but they control it on a national level. But the regular everyday American wants to see the work that President Trump is doing. They support law enforcement and they want these people to stop obstructing and putting their lives and the lives of our federal law enforcement at risk.
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Steve Gruber
I agree. Sheriff, always good to see you. Thank you for being here today.
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Mark Lamb
Good to see you too, Steve. God bless you.
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Steve Gruber
Thank you very much. All right, after the break, we'll have some fun as I discuss the 2026 Shot Show. It's the greatest gun show on earth. It's happening in Las Vegas, Nevada, as it does almost every January. Sometimes they go elsewhere, but usually Las Vegas. I've been to it a number of times. We'll have details coming up.
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Burna Less Lethal Representative
Forget.
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Burna Less Lethal Representative
Thanks so much for having me, Steve. It's great to be on your show.
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Steve Gruber
Yeah, love to have you here. I, I, I've been to the shot show probably 15 times just now, the last three or four years. It really is everything under the sun. Firearms, ammunition, backpacks, boots, flashlights, gear. It is Christmas for kids like me, that's for sure. You've got a big presence there this year with Burna. Tell us about it.
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Burna Less Lethal Representative
Yeah. So Burna less lethal. We are an alternative to deadly force and we are at our core gun owners that are common, that have common sense to realize that you know, the firearm also very important weapon for self defense shouldn't be the first option that people need to resort to. So we are bringing this platform to the gun enthusiast, you know, world and you know, to our delight, we've been embraced in this, in, we've been embraced by this community because they also believe that it's not less lethal or lethal, it's less lethal and lethal. So having multiple options for a self defense strategy is the common sense thing to do and it will save you from getting into a lot of hot water from a legal and financial perspective.
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Steve Gruber
Yeah. All right, so tell the folks that are not familiar with brno, you've had people on this program a number of times I'm pretty familiar with. But go ahead and explain what it is that you have and why it's burner less lethal.
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Burna Less Lethal Representative
Sure. So we are an American company. Our products are hand assembled in Fort Wayne, Indiana. We're proudly American as we like to say. And our products are essentially air pistols and rifles that have, have a key technology called Pool Pierce. So when you insert a CO2 can canister into our weapon and load it with ammo, it is at the ready for years. So you can store it indefinitely until you need it. It is the only technology in the category that offers that those are familiar with CO2 powered weapons. Once you insert that CO2, that CO2 is automatically pierced. And so essentially you have a leaky leaking balloon that can only last for, you know, six to eight hours and you don't know when you're going to get attacked, if you will.
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Steve Gruber
Right.
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Burna Less Lethal Representative
With, with our product it's very easy to use. There's no recoil so you don't have that violent reaction that you would get with a firearm. No ear protection needed, there's no permits required, no background checks. Legal in all 50 states. So it's very accessible, it has formidable stopping power and it'll allow you to de. Escalate before you have to escalate to higher, to a higher power like a firearm.
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Steve Gruber
And your sales have been nothing short of phenomenal. I mean, the company is not very old. You've sold thousands of units and you're growing every day, aren't you?
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Burna Less Lethal Representative
Yes, sir. So we have sold in 2025, we, we are proud to say that we sold over 750,000 burner launchers in the last six years. And again, we are an American company. We're traded on the NASDAQ under Byrn. And it is a platform that is perfect for the climate that we live in. And we want to make sure that all Americans are protected and then, you know, that they understand they have options and avoiding the overuse of forest that can get that them, I mean essentially ruin their lives potentially. That they understand what's available.
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Steve Gruber
Oh, there's no question.
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Burna Less Lethal Representative
Yep.
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Steve Gruber
If you shoot somebody, whether you're right, wrong, self defense, you're going to be in handcuffs and you are going to jail. And it will be sorted out. There's no question about that, that that's an automatic. If you shoot someone, even if you're right, it might be a few days or weeks or months before it gets sorted out. It's going to be expensive with attorneys, it's going to be expensive on, on your relationships. It's gonna, there's a price to pay even if you're doing the right thing, isn't there?
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Burna Less Lethal Representative
Absolutely. And like, you know, I think when you defend yourself, whether it is with, you know, your hands, a golf club or a burnout or firearm, there's a good chance that you're going to be litigated. And if you are, we look at the burnout as you're addressing a fender bender situation using a car analogy versus a total collision. And so, you know, I think that people need to understand what happens on the other side of bang. And there's some real tough complexities that come to resorting to lethal forests. So it's a, it's, it's something that we want to make sure that all Americans are aware of that, you know, make sure you go through the continuum of force protocol, verbal, less lethal, lethal to protect yourself and your family. And that is our message is like we want to save lives. And that, that is the burn a mission.
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Steve Gruber
Well, I wish you well. It's a big show. It's a great time. To me, like I said, the shot show is like Christmas for kids like me. And I'm sure you'll enjoy it, sir. Thank you for being here.
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Burna Less Lethal Representative
Thank you. And we'll save a spot for you anytime. Open invite.
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Steve Gruber
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