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This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human. This is America's Voice live. And welcome to America's Voice Live. I'm Steve Gur. The pulse of the people.
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The people's voice, the truth the mainstream won't touch. This guy is by definition a globalist. And the stories that matter. Rav's own Ben Burb.
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These people are domestic terrorists and unapologetic. We're here to take a stand for God and country. Does feel good. America's Voice Live starts now. Welcome to America's Voice Live. I'm Steve Gur. It is Wednesday, the 7th of January, in the year of our Lord 2026. Let's get the day's top stories. As always, thank you for joining me here on Real America's Voice. We're going to jump right in. Today we have breaking news out of Minnesota. You may have heard about it already, but it is big news. Federal immigration officers in Minneapolis thrown into chaos earlier today when a targeted enforcement operation was disrupted by demonstrators. According to Homeland Security officials, protesters swarmed agents and blocked vehicles and the situation escalated when a woman tried to ram officers, it appears, with her car. Agents say the move was deliberate and aimed at seriously injuring federal law enforcement agents. Faced with what they considered deadly force, one officer opened fire, killing the driver. Several officers were injured during the melee but are expected to recover. DHS officials characterize the event as part of a growing trend of hostility, open hostility and violence towards immigration enforcement, arguing the sanctuary style rhetoric and political attacks have emboldened radicals and put officers at risk every single day. They noted that assaults and threats against ICE personnel have skyrocketed in recent years. Calling the shooting a grim reminder of the dangers faced by those tasked with enforcing federal law. The agency credits the officer's response with preventing further loss of life. Joining to discuss this, retired FBI Executive Assistant Director Chris Piotta, as well as CEO of Sentinel and former DHS advisor Charles Marino. Gentlemen, thank you for being here. Chris, I'm gonna start with you today. You've seen the video. We've all seen the video. In fact, I'd like to play the clip for you right now. Here's a clip that's been all over social media. Go ahead and roll that, gentlemen. Get our neighborhood.
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What the. Dude, what the.
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After bath, the driver. The driver clearly trying to drive over an officer that was in front of her vehicle, he opens fire. She died at the scene. Chris, again, I start with you. You've seen the video. You've seen the pressure that these officers under every single day. Look, if you try to run over a police officer, local, state, federal, I don't care who you are, the outcome is going to be a bad one for you. Most likely. That's what happened here. And yet, as predictable as it is the left coming out and saying it's the fault of ICE officers, what say you?
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I say any time that you use a vehicle to drive toward federal law enforcement officers, a vehicle is a deadly weapon. I'm not sure exactly what the ICE deadly force policy is, but if officers feel as though they are being subjected to serious bodily harm or are in fear of death for themselves or others, they are authorized to use deadly force.
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I can flip the video around. We've got a back view, a view from the other side of the vehicle as this unfolded, because there were people everywhere with cell phones because they had descended upon these ICE agents trying to do their job. And Charles, I want you to weigh in as well. We'll see that in a moment here. But the fact of the matter is the officer, one of them was in front of the car. Instead of getting out of the vehicle as ordered, she punched the gas. And look, anytime that's going to happen, I don't care who you are, the result is not going to be a good one. Your thoughts?
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Well, that's right. And that officer can be anywhere he wants to be with respect to that vehicle position. And as long as he's giving lawful orders, which that vehicle was being used as a weapon to both obstruct law enforcement operations and also as a weapon to assault a federal agent. So the use of force paradigm is pretty consistent here across all federal agencies, including my own at Secret Service. And that is, if that vehicle becomes a weapon, then you have a right to defend yourself and deadly force is justified. And you spoke about the threats. They're up over 8,000% against ICE and CBP agents. And let's remember there's other federal agencies like the FBI and others out there helping them execute these operations. So they should be able to do so safely. But the rhetoric coming from these irresponsible politicians, they fall on some ears where people are going to take stupid measures. And this is an example of what we've seen today, and it's not the first time where we've seen a vehicle involved in attempting to obstruct or assault.
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Federal agents or Kill potentially. Chris, how is it that Minneapolis and Minnesota have become the epicenter, the focus of failure in America? I mean, look at the Summer of Floyd. Look at the fraud that's going on inside the state of Minnesota. Look at the violence on the streets when federal officers are trying to deliver federal warrants to put people that are in this country illegally out. Minnesota has become the poster child of failure on every level right now. I find it despicable. What are your thoughts when you see all the totality of the failures of Minnesota, its leadership, and the city of Minneapolis?
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Well, I see a vacuum of leadership, first of all, and I see the presence and the evolution of extreme liberalism and extreme leftism that have taken over the state of Minnesota in addition to allowing certain foreign populations to grow there since the, I guess maybe the early 90s. You have that Somali population. They've been allowed to grow. They've been allowed to assume power in certain areas and political power. And the weak and feckless leaders in Minnesota have been pandering to that community, and they support that extreme left position. And that's where we find ourselves today, where you have groups of people who find it acceptable to impede the progress of federal officers, to act in provocative manners and sometimes to force confrontations, confrontations that can have extreme consequences, such as today.
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All right, let's hear some of that extreme rhetoric. It came from the mayor, Jacob Fry. He's the mayor of Minneapolis, recently reelected. He had a lot to say in the aftermath of this shooting, and he didn't calm things down by any means. In fact, I would say he ratcheted up the temperature. Listen to this.
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I do have a message for our community, for a city, and I have a message for ice to ice. Get the out of Minneapolis. We do not want you here. Your stated reason for being in this city is to create some kind of safety, and you are doing exactly the opposite. People are being hurt. Families are being ripped apart. Long term, Minneapolis residents that have contributed so greatly to our city, to our culture, to our economy, are being terrorized. And now somebody is dead.
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Charles, your reaction?
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Well, first, I'm impressed that he actually gave that speech in English, considering normally he does it in another language because he's acquiesced to the entire population. To Chris's point, not only are these illegal populations growing, but they're allowed, because of idiots like him, to segregate themselves within the United States, never assimilate to this country, nor do they want to assimilate or care on what the priorities are and what this country was founded on. So he's created in part this entire mess that we see unfolding right now, all the way down to the fraud that we're talking about that's being investigated in Minneapolis. But look again, it's this rhetoric, it's this riling up, it's making law enforcement the bad guys, when in fact the they're not, they're, they're enforcing the laws that Congress passed, okay? And basically these politicians are coming out with any further accountability and saying you should go out and do whatever you need to do to disrupt and prevent them from doing their jobs. This is everything that's wrong with sanctuary cities and why this needs to be resolved once and for all.
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Chris, my concern as I sit here today is that today, tomorrow, the next day, because of rhetoric like that from Mayor Fry, that somebody's going to take pot shots at these ICE agents. It'll be open season on these ICE agents and other federal law enforcement agencies like the FBI or anybody else. They're going to open season on these folks that are just trying to do the job, the lawful job of removing people in this country illegally, many of them hardened criminals and gang members. But that doesn't seem to matter to the mayor.
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Doesn'T. And the tough guy act, not impressive by the mayor. And I will say this, that using inflammatory language can drive certain people from ideological positions to physical action. And that's what we're starting to see. They've already had instances where ICE officers have been fired upon, they've been chased down by cars, they have been surrounded by crowds. And you know, for once, I really would like to see the federal government exercise a little bit of authority here. The big eagle does not take orders from the little eagles. And I think what we owe our ICE officers is a safe, as reasonably safe environment as possible in executing the laws of our nation.
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Yeah, what can the President do, Charles, at this point, what can the administration do? Look, they're going to continue to enforce federal law. Tom Holman's made it clear they're taking this show on the road. They're going to a lot more places in the new year to round up and deport those that came here illegally. The worst of the worst first. But look, if you're here illegally and you get caught up in it, you're out too. That's the way it is. And when we talk about the fraud in Minneapolis, if you came here, got naturalized and then robbed the tax paying citizens of this country, you're gone too. What do we need to do to make sure that we can make America safer as opposed to what we're witnessing right now in Minneapolis.
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Well, to the point that you made and the question you asked about, what can the Trump administration do about these radical sanctuary cities? I think we've seen them try and use the power of the purse, and that is, you know, these sanctuary cities cannot say they're prioritizing the safety and security of those that live in their communities and yet still continue to receive federal public safety grants from either DOJ or DHS or others that should be cut off. And there have been attempts to do that. The problem is, in addition to the sanctuary cities, the Trump administration's also been having to deal with these radical courts in those sanctuary districts. And, and the Supreme Court has just not listened to all of these cases to make an ultimate decision on whether or not these, these lower courts have the authority to prevent the Trump administration from cutting off these funds. I believe the Trump administration, the executive branch, has the authority that if these grants are not being used to increase and ensure the safety and security of the people in these communities, then they should not be receiving the money, period.
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Chris, I'm going to go ahead and give you the last word. Wrap it up for us.
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Well, I will say that the federal government let this get out of control with the sanctuary cities. We have a very divided American community right now. And what I'd like to see is after an incident like this, let's all take a deep breath, a strategic pause, and see what happened, why it happened. And let's look at the loss of life, the enforcement of law, and the return to a civil society. Right now, we have too much division, too much opposition and adversarial, you know, discussion among the politicians. And quite frankly, I think a lot of the politicians would serve us better just by stop, just when they, if they would stop talking.
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I can't disagree with that. Chris Piotta, Charles Marino, thank you both for being here. This story is about to get bigger, I think, because they're gathering in the streets of Minneapolis. We've seen it before during the Summer of Floyd. We'll see what happens this time. Gentlemen, thank you.
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Thanks, Steve.
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All right, after the break, I'll bring on Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin to discuss everything we've seen today, plus the ongoing fraud in Minnesota and the reaction to what happened in Venezuela. All things are on the table with the senator. When we come back, 2026, off to a blistering start of the news cycle, to say the least. The number of big stories breaking in just the first few days. I don't like the word, but it does seem unprecedented at this rate. Join me to discuss the latest from Minneapolis. Earlier today, the senator from the great state of Wisconsin, Ron Johnson. Senator, thank you for coming on. A lot to discuss today, but let's start with your reaction to an ICE officer. We've seen the video from several different angles. Now, there are lawful orders to tell the driver, a woman, to get out of her vehicle. She's blocking traffic. The ICE officers are being swarmed by protesters. Instead of getting out of the vehicle, she floors her suv. He fires in defense. At least that's the way it looks to me. And of course, the mayor of Minneapolis comes out and condemns ICE and tells him to get the F out of Minnesota. Your thoughts, sir?
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Yeah, it's just a tragedy all the way around.
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It just is.
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I mean, obviously for that woman, her family, for the ICE officer who's now going to go through hell. And it's all brought about by allowing the illegal immigration issue, the open borders, to go completely out of control and the Trump administration's attempt to bring it back under control, which the vast majority of Americans support. We want secure borders. We don't want a flood of illegal immigrants coming to this country. We don't want to see the fraud. We don't want to see the crimes. So it's just a huge mess. It's a huge tragedy. Now this is going to erupt into major protests again. Hopefully more people don't lose their lives. Hopefully there's not additional property damage, that type of thing. But, you know, Katie, bar the door right now.
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This is not good.
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With Mayor Fry's comments. They are corrosive comments. They are volatile comments. As you heard me talk with my first two guests here, to me, he's declared open season on federal law enforcement officers. I don't think anything good comes from this. It's gonna be open season. How is Minnesota, your neighboring state there to Wisconsin, become the epicenter of all this violence, of all this fraud, of all this failure? What's going on there?
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Democrat governance. It's literally that simple. Again, I come on the show, I mean, we just had the anniversary of January 6th. I mean, we condemned the violence there. Conservatives did. We didn't like seeing that. This was following the summer of violence in 2020, where Democrats wouldn't condemn it. They open up the borders, they create this crime wave, these murders and vehicular homicides and rapes and all that kind of thing. And they just want to look the other way because they're bringing in voters, they're bringing people that will become dependent on government so they can grow government so they can maintain power. I mean, this is their game plan. It's destructive to America. It's not helpful, doesn't build anything. And it just continues to tear this nation apart. And I know my comments are partisan, but again, Republicans don't like to see the disunity. Republicans don't like seeing the violence. We, we abhor it, we condemn it when we see it. We're not juicing it, we're not encouraging it. And unfortunately, there are far too many elected officials on the left that are encouraging it. And you just have the hair trigger response here. So again, we're in a very dangerous time in this country. We have been for a number of years. I ran for the Senate because we were more generic in the future. Right now, I think the greatest threat to this nation is the horrific political divide. The left is doing nothing to heal it.
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Let me ask you about the fraud in Minneapolis. We're going to keep a close eye on the live feeds from Minneapolis. But I've got to ask you about the fraud. There was testimony on Capitol Hill, on the other side in the House today, I heard one comment that one company, and I use that term lightly, was paid $500,000 for a single day, a single day of whatever the work was. And the person that approved that money quit the agency within a couple of days and went to work for that company. I don't know what it's like in Wisconsin, but here in Michigan, where I live, that's probably criminal behavior. And there's a lot of it and to the tune of billions of dollars. And we haven't even gotten to California or Illinois or New York or other big blue states. Look, this is not isolated to Minnesota, is it?
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What we're seeing in Minnesota is just the tip of the iceberg. When you spend over $7 trillion a year, that's $7,000 billion dollars a year. You just shovel, you can't shovel the money out the door fast enough. It's going to be misused. And I keep pointing out the Somalis, they're amateurs at this. They've only been this country a few years. You've got entrenched interests that know how to game the system, in many cases legally. A lot of this is legalized fraud. Take a look at things like Medicaid expansion that has spawned things like provider taxes, provider fees that the federal government has to pay $0.09 or $9 for every dollar the states spend on things that aren't health care fleets in the federal government for tens of billions of dollars. This is rampant. It's all across. All these programs can be very difficult to root out until the American public gets outraged by it. I think it's encouraging that the Nick Shirley video gained such traction. But the $64,000 question is, are there enough Americans that are working, that are paying the taxes, that are carrying the load to outvote those who are just sitting back and sucking down benefits? I mean, that's the death knell of in democracy.
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Yeah. You know, I look at this and I look at that money, billions of dollars in Minnesota that was supposed to go to autistic children, to food programs to feed the poor, to veterans. They all got the short end of this deal. While billions of dollars went to the Somali community, much of it exported back to Somalia to support organizations like Al Shabaab, according to tremendous amounts of reporting, supporting open terrorist groups to the, to the detriment of the American people. Right.
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And let's face it, America is a very compassionate nation. We want to help people who can't help themselves. We want to help people help themselves. But again, the federal government is the entity that is most easy to fleece. If you've got a customer, you want to fleece it. Boy, you know, have, have the federal government be your customer because whether it's health care, whether it's these welfare programs, whether it's the defense industrial complex, I mean, they're all screwing the American taxpayer, by and large. And trying to uncover it, trying to control it is almost impossible. The only way to control it is to limit the size, scope and cost of government, try and return federal government back to within the constraints of the enumerated powers.
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Senator Ron Johnson is going to join us for a second segment. Senator, hold on. We'll take a quick break here in America's Voice Live and be back to discuss Venezuela, Colombia, Nicaragua, maybe even Greenland, what's coming up next.
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Next.
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We'll talk about it after the break with the senator. Continuing now on america's Voice Live, we'll keep a close eye on those breaking developments in Minneapolis where there was a nice involved shooting. A woman is dead, an ICE officer is injured. We'll keep an eye on that as the story continues to develop. Senator Ron Johnson still with me. Senator, I do want to touch on the big news that started the year that was the raid to take out Maduro, the narco dictator in Venezuela. It's unusual to me that so many Democrats that called on him to be removed. Chuck Schumer, Joe Biden, a host of others are now yelling that Donald Trump did this. And somehow it's a violation of international law. Even though we've had an extradition treaty with Venezuela for more than 100 years, even though the Supreme Court weighed in after we got Noriega out of Panama and said perfectly legal. It's unusual to me that these Democrats would defend a guy who's running the biggest criminal enterprise in the Western Hemisphere, bringing in China, Russia, Iran, Cuba and so much more. Drug trafficking, human trafficking. You must just sit there in the Senate some days and shake your head in disbelief.
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Well, I understand how powerful the Trump derangement syndrome is within Democrats. I mean, there's nobody on earth they hate more than Donald Trump, including Maduro. So it's an undeniably good thing that Maduro is gone. What happens next? I think the administration sounds like they've got a game plan, using oil as our leverage, believing that the people there, rather than see the government completely collapse, let those people in place, see if we can deal with them reasonably as we go through about a three phase transition process here. So it's obvious that President Trump doesn't want nation building or nation build. He's going to leave building Venezuela up to Venezuelans, but using all the levers that America have in terms of our ability to pretty well dictate where they can sell their oil. We'll buy it at commercial rates, set up accounts for the benefit of the Venezuelan people. Benefit for our Western hemisphere and for America as well. So this could really end up being a real win, win, win situation for, for South America, for the Western Hemisphere, for America and the people who lose our adversaries, China, Iran, Russia, Cuba, big blow to them.
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It was not an invasion, it was liberation. I mean, that's as simple as it looks from common sense, Midwest perspective. I would say this to people that doubt Donald Trump's word. I'd like you to speak to this. He warned Venezuela, he warned the Iranians when they were building their nuclear capabilities. He's now warned Colombia and Nicaragua and others. Don't play these games because if you cross that line, there will be consequences. Anybody that doubts Donald Trump's word at this point does so at their own peril, do they not?
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I thought Secretary of State Rubio made that point in the press conference with President Trump. Very well. He said he didn't speak for very long during that press conference, but he said, listen to what President Trump says. Believe what he says. If he tells he's going to do something, he will do it. Now. He's going to give you all kinds of off ramps. He tried that with the Ayatolls. He's tried that with Madura. They just didn't take it. So the next tin pot dictator that threatens Americans national security or floods our nation with the deadly drugs, take the generous offer. We don't want to use military force. Trump doesn't want to do that. He certainly doesn't want to put boots on the ground. But he will absolutely protect America's national security, our interests and people need to take him seriously.
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And he will defend the Monroe Doctrine. Senator, I really appreciate you covering a wide variety of topics today. Thank you for taking the time and being here.
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Have a great day.
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You too, sir. Yeah. Do not doubt his resolve. Coming up after the break, I'll continue our coverage of the shooting in Minnesota and so much more. Stay tuned for more details. Straight ahead. Welcome back to america's Voice live. Join me to continue the discussion of the shooting in Minnesota earlier today is US Federal prosecutor, constitutional attorney and former JAG officer at the Pentagon, Don Brown. Don, welcome back to the program. I know you've seen the video here. Look, I don't care if it's a local police officer, a state police officer, a federal agent. If you try to run somebody down after they have given you a lawful order to exit your vehicle, which is clearly heard on the audio from every angle, and she instead punches the accelerator and gets shot as a result, what did you expect was going to happen? Your thoughts?
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Look, look, of course, information is still breaking, but the video is a video and it appears the officers ordered her out, she backed up and then hit the accelerator moving forward. What do you expect? You know, we, we've seen these types of terror attacks before. We don't know anything really about the, the driver at this point. We've seen even ISIS use these types of tactics and running people down in, in Europe and even in the United States. And the officer has a right to use deadly force, to stop deadly force. And a moving vehicle can do a lot of damage, kill a lot of people. And it appears to be a clear case of self defense officer operating within their rights. And President Trump is sending our federal law enforcement up there hopefully to kind of clean up a lot of this illegal Somali stuff that's going on in Minnesota, especially in the wake of this despicable fraud case involving these daycare centers. And Waltz appears to have his fingers all over it. I'm concerned, of course, about local law enforcement and Whether these ICE officers can get a fair shake there, I'm not. That's one concern we got to kind of keep an eye on here, though. Steve.
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Yeah, here's my concern I've been talking about since the top of the program because of the irresponsible comments following the shooting by the mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Fry, who basically said, ice, get the F out of Minnesota. That kind of irresponsible rhetoric ratchets it up and basically puts a target on the back of every federal law enforcement agency, maybe every local, maybe every state law enforcement officer. It is reckless, it is dangerous, and somebody's gonna get killed and they're gonna be wearing a badge. That's my concern. Don.
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Yes, Democrats have been using gaslighting rhetoric to, to actually make the jobs of law enforcement all across the country more and more dangerous is highly irresponsible. It also means that, you know, how. How would an officer even get a fair trial if any charges were brought? This should be an opening shut case with zero charges brought at all. But more to your point, this irresponsible rhetoric is going to cause more potshots against officers, not just federal, but state as well. And look what they did to Derek Chauvin. And Derek Chauvin should never have been prosecuted. That wound up getting prosecuted for, you know, this George in the George Floyd case, when George Floyd committed suicide by fentanyl. No question about it. It's a real bad situation there. And I think that when you have public officials that are inciting violence against law enforcement, that'll be held, you know, held to account. I mean, Minnesota is the birthplace and many, in fact, let me be clear, they're great folks in Minnesota. Minneapolis, St. Paul, Hennepin county is the birthplace of the defund, the police movement of this successful of cancer against law enforcement. And I commend the president for his actions and trying to clean this up, and we'll see how this breaks. But I want to really know more about this, this person who was shot. What was she up to? Why did she do what she did? Does she have an agenda? We're still questions.
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We'll find out more, I'm sure. Meanwhile, in Hennepin county, billions of taxpayer dollars defrauded from the government there systematically over years. And there was testimony on Capitol Hill this morning accusing administration officials, the Tim Walls administration, of openly looking the other way because it was politically beneficial to them to allow the Somali community to continue with what they were doing because they got 100,000 Somalian folks there, a Somalian background that Go to the polls and vote for the Democrats because they're fleecing the system through childcare, home health care, autism centers. You name it, they did it. They fleeced the government. And what I heard today means that people should be in jail. We have to hold people accountable. Don. This whole thing about, well, we won't quite get there. Well, we'll, we'll issue some terse letters. No, we need to see people in handcuffs. We need to see people in jail for committing multiple felonies at the expense of people that needed that money. The kids that actually have autism or went hungry that day, or veterans living on the streets. Don, it's time to say no more. Your thoughts?
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My thoughts are Pam Bonding needs to put her foot on the accelerator and really get this show on the road. These prosecutions have got to come. There is clear, undisputed evidence of widespread fraud there with these, these daycare centers. If this goes all the way up to the Minnesota governor's office, then so be it. But unless you really accelerate the pace of these prosecutions, the defense will delay, delay, delay, delay and hope that the gas runs out. We got to do more, take more action, do less talking when it comes to this. I want to see that happen and I really want to see every illegal Somali rooted out of Minnesota now. And this is, by the way, a testament to the foolishness of our legal immigration program. These people are in the United States to begin with. They should never have been allowed to immigrate. They embrace the philosophy of Sharia law, which is at war with the Constitution. It just shows how ludicrous the Democrats policies have been.
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Don, real quickly, you're running for office. Tell folks where they can find you and learn more about who you are and what you stand for.
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Thank you. We're. Steve, running for the United States Senate, I believe.
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We are. We are.
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Don Brown, thank you. We'll talk again soon.
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Thank you, Steve. Appreciate you.
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Debate. We will continue to update you Minnesota as we get more information. Now I'd like to turn it over to Commissioner Bob Jacobson of the Minnesota Department of Public Safety, Minnesota department of public safety.
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To serve as the Commissioner of the Minnesota Department of Public Safety. First of all, I want to acknowledge the reason that we are all here. The loss of life is not anything anyone I want to acknowledge the reason that we are all here. The loss of life is not anything anyone would ever want. We fully expect that the community will want to peacefully demonstrate their anger or frustration. Minnesota residents and visitors have the right to peacefully demonstrate. We recognize that demonstrations are often driven by strong emotions, beliefs, and certainly a desire to be heard. Our role is to help ensure everyone can express themselves without anyone getting hurt. The Minnesota Department of Public Safety's role through the Minnesota State Patrol is to ensure safety, protect constitutional rights, keep roads accessible, and above all, to prevent harm. Our top priority is public safety. Our focus is keeping demonstrators, community members, drivers and law enforcement safeguards, especially during moments of heightened tension or uncertainty. Demonstrations must remain safe and lawful, particularly around roadways. We will join with our partners to support safety while respecting the right to protest. With that in mind, I'd like to share a few safe and lawful ways to demonstrate. Minnesotans can safely and legally express their views in many ways, including getting together peacefully with others in public spaces, marching or walking not on roadways, making your voice heard through chants, speeches and displaying signs being present in public areas where pedestrians are allowed, gathering in designated or permitted areas and these Actions will allow people to express themselves while protecting the safety of everyone involved. Unsafe or illegal actions could result in fines or arrests. Certain behaviors create serious hazards that threaten public safety, disrupt emergency services or put people at risk. These actions could result in fines or arrests. Demonstrating on or entering a freeway, on foot, walking on highways, throwing objects, starting or setting fires, damaging property or graffiti, using illegal fireworks, displaying or using illegal weapons, reckless or dangerous driving, especially near pedestrians, and certainly assault of aggressive or riotous behavior toward anyone. We all want definitive answers to what happened today. Our Bureau of Criminal Apprehension is working in conjunction with the FBI to investigate this morning's shooting. As you know, we don't comment on active investigations, but also keep in mind that this investigation is also in its infancy. So any speculation about what had happened would be just that. And we will not engage in speculation with that. I will turn it back over to the governor. Thank you.
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D
We'd be glad to take any questions. Yeah, and I could let, I can let General Shaffer talk about this. It so happens it's a training weekend. We've got about 7,500 troops in training at our sites, training sites across the state. What it is. And in the National Guard, you give a warning order which is a heads up of, of something could be coming that just allows people to think about what they would need, what it would mean to mobilize, what it would mean to put them in. And I could let the general talk a little bit about this. Obviously, since the summer of 2020, we had a lot of work done on teams being ready to make sure that civil unrest and what that means. And I think Commissioner Jacobson was very clear. And I want Minnesotans to hear this from me. The desire to get out and protest and to speak up to this administration of how wrong this is. That is a patriotic duty at this point in time, but it needs to be done safely. And I think the commissioner simply just laid out some of those parameters. We can do that. This is the peaceful resistance that we need. Simon, you want to say a few things about what that means to have them on the ready?
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C
Yes, sir. Thank you, Governor. So for the military, Minnesota National Guard is comprised of 13,000 soldiers and airmen. We live all across and work throughout Minnesota. A warning order is just an initial step to increase your preparations. The Minnesota Guard is always prepared to respond and support state agencies and the citizens of the of Minnesota. So what that means for us today is just some additional checks on equipment that are ready, is ready all at all times and maybe some additional phone calls to service Members who might be activated, but nothing. No activations. We are embedded with our state agencies here at the operations center to just continue parallel planning in the event that we are needed to support.
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D
Thanks, John. And I would make note, Mary, and to Minnesotans on this about the National Guard. They're there to protect you and protect your constitutional rights. These are our neighbors. They don't wear masks. They don't bust in from somewhere else. They're not here to cause hassles to you or what we saw today, the tragedy, having them at the ready to make sure. Because when we see these types of things happen, and we saw it after the murder of George Floyd, deployed, there's folks that want to cause chaos. There's the disruptors in it and why. The vast majority of those protests were peaceful expressions, their First Amendment rights. There were those that destroyed property and put people at risk. The National Guard is there to make sure that peaceful protests are able to be done and that those that want to do the destruction are. Are stopped from doing that. Y. Yeah.
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B
Yeah.
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D
And. Well, and I think apparently by a federal agent, not by Minnesotans who were there to express their First Amendment rights. I think we've seen this. To have folks ready. The gatherings that were down there today, I think this shocked everyone. People showed up as they should. There's people putting flowers down on a memorial. There's people expressing their anger. It's just as these situations develop, we decide when we need to move these people out. And I think the local reporters know well on this, both unfortunately and for us. The upside of this is that we're very good and we've had practice at this. And I just want to again, implore Minnesotans. I am not telling you not to express your anger or your frustrations or the outrage that we have. Look, this was. This was totally predictable, as I said it yesterday, and it was totally avoidable. And I just wanted to remind you, too, that local law enforcement, we get no coordination. They don't tell us they're coming. They don't say why they're sending the largest deployment in American history to Minneapolis. They're not. They're not making us any safer. We don't have any of that coordination. They should be talking to us when we do these things, let us know we're going to be down here. This is going to happen. We don't have that. So when you see local law enforcement or State Patrol or if it would take the National Guard, we're there responding to the chaos they've created, too. But our role is to make sure that we're protecting Minnesotans so that something like this doesn't happen. I have not. The question was, have I spoken to the individual's family? No, we do not have a definitive ID on this individual. And look, I'm going to note to all of you, I think it's really important and the professionals do this and they train me to do this. This is an open investigation. You need to be very careful about it. I know that many of you, myself included, have seen a very difficult video to watch, one where there's a family member watch their family member be shot and killed in front of them. It's beyond me that apparently from the federal government, from the Homeland Security director herself, has already determined who this person was, what their motive was, and they hadn't even been taken out of the vehicle.
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B
This is.
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D
We're not living in a normal world. And so no, I have not. And I want to be very careful because I know how painful this is. I know how painful it is right now. I'm saying person and all that this is a human being. This very well is, you know, an individual's child apparent. And, and we don't know that yet. So no, I have not. But once we do, we will. So yes, Colonel, would you like to do that? Colonel?
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C
So the governor was mentioning mobilizing more.
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A
Of the State Patrol. How many, like State Patrol people are.
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J
So the question was how many are in. How many State Patrol troopers have been deployed to the city of Minneapolis right now? We don't talk typical numbers because that is considered security information. We do have a specialized team that does deal with crowd control. And so they have been deployed, but again, they are from all over the state of Minnesota. So they will come in in tears to the state. No, it was in response to this event.
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D
I'm sorry, what was? Well, I said this yesterday. We've never been at war with our federal government. I think in this case that the National Guard is their main mission. They have a dual mission. There's the federal mission when they're under Title 10 orders and then they're under Title 32 orders. In this warning order, there's nothing officially been done yet. If I am to activate them as the commander in chief of the Minnesota National Guard, I will issue the executive order to the Minnesota National Guard and then they will be put in state duty status. And as you've seen over the last few years, that could be flood prevention. That could be after a wind blowing storm up in the north, up in Bemidji. Or it could be Covid or George Floyd response in this case, again, it doesn't necessarily change the mission. They're there to protect Minnesotans. They're there to serve Minnesotans. I think the thing that is so challenging in the moment we're in is we don't see a desire to work with us on public safety. We hear a demonization of our state. We see people coming in who don't know our community. And we see this massive display for the TVs that we're trying to understand how is this coordinated. And some of you watch the videos on there. Total chaos. And look, I have very limited work in this is the training in the National Guard, but I've had a lot of training now to watch how our professionals operate after this person was shot. Federal agents milling around, touching the vehicle at a crime scene and things. I don't know what to tell you, and I don't quite know how to respond to the question other than my primary responsibility as governor is to protection of the people of Minnesota. And you can be assured, whether it's the State Patrol or whether it's the National Guard, their deployment is there to protect Minnesotans from whatever it is. If it's an act of nature, if it's a global pandemic, or in this case, if it is a rogue federal agent. I don't know at this time. And I want to be very careful. It's unprecedented that we have. The federal government's already determined exactly what's happened here and the motives of an individual that we don't even know the name. They don't know the name. And that's very difficult. So one more. Dana, Dana, Look. And I understand the uniqueness of this moment in this week, coming following this week, seeing what's happening in the backdrop of a show hearing in dc. My job is to govern and my job is to see what the facts are. This happened a couple of hours ago and we're already pitting American against American. All of you saw a video. In your eyes, we have a chaotic situation caused by the largest deployment in American history of federal agents into a community with no communication to locals. We had a chaotic situation where an individual is in their car, shot and killed. And so look, I want to be very cautious here because Donald Trump will make this about me. He will make this about politics. This is about public safety, and this is about normalcy to Americans who are watching this. If you're in Portland or you're in LA or you're in Chicago or you're Wherever they're coming next, stand with us. Stand with us against this. This was so, so preventable, so unnecessary. And I don't know, I hope maybe we're at the McCarthy moment. Do you have no decency? Do you have no decency? We have someone dead in their car for no reason whatsoever. And, and I bet, I don't, I don't want to be right about this, but I said if they do this, they're going to create a chaotic situation where someone innocent is going to get killed. And they did it. And, and now we hear more political rhetoric. Enough. Enough is enough. And so to Minnesotans, don't take the bait. Do not take the bait. Do not allow them to deploy federal troops into here. Do not allow them to invoke the Insurrection Act. Do not allow them to declare martial law. Do not allow them to lie about the security and the decency of this state. And let's let this investigation play itself out. Let's make sure we protect our neighbors. I encourage you to use your First Amendment rights in all of your Constitution, constitutional rights, but do so in a peaceful manner. We'll gather back with you as soon as we gather more information that needs to be put out. But again, stay safe, Minnesotans, and we'll be back with you.
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A
Now, did I hear this correctly? Did I hear the Governor of Minnesota just suggest that the Minnesota National Guard should be put in place to defend against federal law enforcement? I'm gonna have to go back and listen to that again, but I'm sure that's what I heard. I did hear him say that. This driver is dead for no reason whatsoever. No reason whatsoever. She was told to exit her vehicle lawful commands from a federal law enforcement agent. She did not follow those orders. Instead, she pumped the gas and accelerated right at him. From where I sit, it looks like self defense. Now, this is an early, early part of the conversation, but give me a break. Give me a break. Governor, that is an embarrassment to you, to your state, to the administration you pretend to run in a state overrun with fraud and crime and other problems. What an embarrassment that was for Governor Tim Walz. Killed for no reason whatsoever except for trying to maim a police officer. Well, more on this coming up with bowling. Stay with Real America's Voice for continuing coverage. This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.