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Welcome to America's Voice Live. I'm Steve Guerrid. Is Friday, thankfully, November 14th, year of our Lord 2025. Let's get to today's top stories. Thank you for joining us on rav. As always, American forces recently targeted two boats believed to be operated by foreign terrorist groups involved in funneling narcotics toward the United. Despite the reasoning, Democrats say this action is illegal. I'll bring you that in just a few minutes. Also, socialism knocking on America's door. From Zoran Mamdani in New York to now Katie Wilson in Seattle, I'll discuss the dangers of socialism with a former Democrat socialist himself today. You don't want to miss that one. And then later taking across the pond to Manchester, England, where a memorial held for Charlie Kirk was sabotaged by violent protesters. Details and updates coming your way today. But first, we start with gerrymandering efforts in California. Yes, I know you've heard about this, but some things are changing now. The Justice Department is taking legal action against California Governor Gavin Newsom and Secretary of State Shirley Weber over the state's new congressional redistricting plan. The challenge targets Proposition 50, a measure that passed during Election Day by voters that lets the state legislature redraw district maps, even though it violates state law and the Constitution. Officials allege the new map gives racial considerations, particularly Latino demographics, undue influence in determining district lines and violates the equal protection clause of the U.S. constitution. Supporters of the lawsuit argue that every voter's voice should carry equal weight, regardless of race and warn that the plan undermines fair representation in Congress. The case now heads to federal court, setting up a major legal battle over how California chooses its congressional districts and its members of Congress. Here to discuss this further is legal expert and host of the what's Right show, Sam Mirojoski, as well as a Justice Department reporter for The Washington examiner magazine, Kalyn Dees. All right, gentlemen, thank you for being here. Kaylin, I'll start with you. Proposition 50 passed with like 60% of the vote, but it violates state law. It violates the state constitution. They already had a nonpartisan districting committee that did the job. A commission maybe, was a better term, but that's how they did it. And this got overturned, but only temporarily, just enough to game the system while Donald Trump was in office. What are your thoughts?
Kalyn Dees
Yeah, well, the DOJ's argument is very blunt. It's that California used race as a stand in for partisan advantage. And the complaint that it filed states that the state engineered Latino population targets and used race as a proxy to secure in violation of the fourteenth Amendment's equal protection laws. And what's really interesting is that at the same time, the Supreme Court is already considering oral arguments in a pivotal case around Louisiana. And in that case, Louisiana drew a second majority black congressional district as a remedy to prior rulings under section 2. What was very interesting at oral arguments is that the justice has signaled that they could go a step further beyond the map in question and possibly reconsider how Section 2 of the VRA functions at all. And that could have implications for this fight that's now teed up in California. If that case goes sideways for the people that had wanted the second majority black congressional district in Louisiana, it could spell a good set of optics for what's happening in California, albeit this current map is set for being used in the 2026 midterms. And it doesn't seem like so far that there's going to be anything changing that at the moment.
Steve Gruber
Well, that Supreme Court case could certainly change that. I would expect a ruling in June of 2026. And if that happens, Sam, I want you to consider this. Of course, California reacted to what Texas was doing with redrawing its districts, and they'll cancel each other out. Five new Republicans in Texas, five Democrats in California. Close enough. But if this Supreme Court case goes forward, it'll affect Louisiana, Alabama, Tennessee, Mississippi, a whole host of states and could add as many as 12 seats for the Republicans right there. There's also a conversation that Florida could do redistricting along with North Carolina, Indiana, and as I say to my friends, careful what you wish for, and Democrats, careful what you wish for. Because if this case go the other way, it could nullify what California did and they'd lose those five. This could be a plus 20 or more deal for the Republicans in 2026. That would be A remarkable change, wouldn't it?
Sam Mirojoski
Sure would. And you're absolutely right, Steve. I mean, this is what happens when you play with fire. The Cali case, and I'm glad Kaylin brought this up, Louisiana v. Cali, of course, is a racial gerrymandering case, and the administration argued that a few weeks back. You know, the, the long and the short of it is, you know, this, it'll depend on what comes from that ruling and what the, what the law becomes as to what's permissible in terms of gerrymandered districts and what the test is. It could very well affect California. Because if, if, if basically we are able to prove, if the Trump administration is able to prove that, that they came in and that they created this Latino only district and did so for racial purposes, not political purposes, but racial purposes, then I think the whole map would get thrown out and this would obviously push back the redistricting effort well beyond the 2026 election. So, you know, something to watch here for sure.
Steve Gruber
Yeah, it's the Article 2 of the Voting Rights act from 1965, I'm not mistaken, Kaylin. And look, if I'm going to suggest this, because it does impact states, not just Louisiana, but Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, a whole host of states that have drawn districts based solely on race. Those are black districts. The California districts are based on race for Hispanic advantage. Look, this is not legal in America. You can't have people go to college based on racial preferences. You can't do this. It's unconstitutional. But it also violates California's Constitution, its state laws. It's a big problem for California, I believe. But what I was going to say is if the ruling comes down in June, these states that I just mentioned better be prepared ahead of time with new maps ready to go day one, because otherwise they won't have the time. What are your thoughts on that?
Kalyn Dees
Yeah, time is very much a major consideration here. That's why, you know, in California there is this expectation, at least with the, one of the challengers that the DOJ intervened in. I believe it's a state running person running for state representative office. And essentially, I mean, the focus is getting this map overturned, but also being prepared to go along with a potential map redrawing for 2026. That would be the, in the short term, the bad outcome. But like you're saying, this is all in a state of flux and if the Supreme Court does act quickly here, it could give enough time. But everything about this effort by California really shows that the Democrats aren't actually thinking in terms of the long term, they're just trying to make short term inroads with what they have still left to sort of exploit with the vra. But as we've seen from this jurisprudence in this court and the justices thinking on things, I think it's only a matter of time before this focus on building these, these districts just purely based on race is something that's going to become a thing of the past. You know, this isn't, you know, the 20th century any longer. And I think that, you know, as we saw from the 2024 election with Donald Trump, we saw major demographic shifts happening. You know, the most Latino voters for a president, Republican president in history. And so I think that this is something that is sort of underscoring these short sighted views of Democrats in California because the landscape is shifting. More and more people every day are getting behind the Republican Party platform. And that's something, I think that's also.
Steve Gruber
Notable, except for young women that are fleeing. That's a story for another day. Sam, here are the facts on the ground today. Facts are something that many on the left don't care to hear. But here it is. Today in America, 155 million Americans have zero Republican representation in Washington, in the house, zero out of 155 million people. You take all the northeastern states, for example, and then Compare that to 65 million Americans who have no Democratic representation in Congress. Look, the Democrats have outmaneuvered and out gerrymandered the Republicans almost three to one. And yet it's the Democrats screaming foul when they get played on their own game. When you end up on the same field and say, let's make this even and fair, the Democrats, oh, they're gerrymandering 165 million to 65 million. I mean, come on, the Democrats have gerrymandered for years and done it. Well, the Republicans just waking up to it.
Sam Mirojoski
Well, I hope they keep waking up to it and I hope that some of these red states that are refusing or at least for now, are holding off on gerrymandering. Go look, this is the other side is playing for keeps. And you can't, you know, you can't have your moral scruples here because the other side has been playing this game for four years. The Supreme Court has cleared political gerrymandering as permissible, as constitutionally allowable. So that came out in Rucho. It's good law, you can do it. And politics is why I always like to remind my Republican friends, politics is about winning. You gotta win. And pretending to, to have sensitivities and be respectful of the opposition when they're not respectful of us, I think is foolish.
Steve Gruber
Yeah, well, Indiana is resisting the idea, but they may still draw new lines December of next of this year, next month. Caitlin, let me ask you this, because here's something that's been discussed at length more recently. Members of Congress used to represent about 50,000 people. Now it's 800,000. Would we make the United States House more fair if it wasn't just 435 members? If it was 700 members or 800, wouldn't that make more sense? Because let's be honest, how can you represent 800,000 people fairly in a district? I mean, that's the average. Now, should we relook at the way we do districting completely? Your thoughts?
Kalyn Dees
Well, I think you bring up a good compelling argument. I would say that that would definitely, I think, bring in maybe more representation of more localized areas. And I think it's, you know, you know, just, just also to put a, you know, you know, a finger on it, you know, another issue that could lead to more accurate representation of areas is something that, you know, is unpopular. It's popular until it's unpopular by a lot of lawmakers, and that's the issue of term limits. And, you know, I think that, you know, imposing that sort of, you know, system would almost, you know, sort of equate to, you know, giving that, that, that effect of what term limits would do. I suppose you could make an argument that if more localized areas become their own sets of districts and we expand the size of Congress in and of itself, then you wind up in a situation where maybe the, the, the constituents in each state have more of their issues tended to. But I think that's something that could be another long ways out if that was ever to be, to be a thought. But, you know, perhaps sometime in the distant future.
Steve Gruber
All right, Kaylin, Sam, we're going to keep an eye on it. Redistricting is going to be front and center for the 26 midterms and of course for 28. The next presidential election is going to be key, and so is that Supreme Court case. I thank you both for being here.
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Thank you, Steve. Good to be with you.
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Thanks, Steve.
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Good to be with you. Gentlemen, right after the break. The US Military stepping up its fight against drug traffickers recently targeting more of these drug boats linked to foreign terror groups. Officials say the goal is simple. Defend American shores and disrupt the flow of deadly narcotics coming into this country. Details straight ahead.
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Well, this story has been in the headlines and created a lot of emotion, to say the least. The United States military is stepping up its crackdown on drug running operations recently, launching another round of precise lethal strikes against drug traffickers using high speed fast boats. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth confirmed on Sunday that American forces targeted two boats believed to be operated by foreign terrorist groups deeply involved in funneling narcotics, deadly narcotics, toward this country. These latest actions are part of a broader campaign to choke off the drug pipelines that fuel crime, violence and addiction here in America. So far, US forces have reportedly carried out 19 successful strikes, limiting 20 vessels and taking out 76 suspected drug runners. Officials say the mission is clear. Defend America's borders, disrupt the cartels and terror networks behind the trafficking, and ensure these threats never reach our shores. And while the Trump administration is busy ensuring these narcotics don't make it into the United States, the Democrats are throwing a fit saying that these strikes are illegal. Joining me now to discuss this is a former JAG officer and a candidate for the Republican nomination to be the next senator from North Carolina, Don Brown. Don, nice to see you here today. Look, you were a former federal prosecutor. If we have identified and look, people are saying these are fishing boats. I've been in a lot of fishing charters. I've owned a couple of fishing boats. These are not fishing boats, Don. Let's just eliminate that myth first, shall we?
Don Brown
I didn't see any nets or rods and reels. I've done a lot of fishing myself. These things are nefarious looking. I'm very confident that our military has Sufficient intelligence capabilities to determine what the boats really are.
Steve Gruber
Yeah, you got big plastic drums in these boats. I've seen them. These plastic drums are not carrying bait. They're carrying poison to America's shores. I think most people are behind this. When you have more than 100,000Americans that die from illegal narcotics brought into this country, often over the southern border or by boats like this, I think most Americans are in favor of it. And a good friend of mine lost a 19 year old son, college kid, good kid last year, died from a fentanyl overdose. He went out, he experimented like a lot of us did when we were in college. One fatal mistake, one.
Don Brown
And you've got to consider. That's a sad story, but we hear.
Sam Mirojoski
It over and over.
Don Brown
Steven Young, you have to consider the consequences of not acting. I mean, you pointed out some of the numbers. We lost more Americans in one year to fentanyl than 10 years in the Vietnam War. A few years ago, then Director FBI Chris Wray was testifying before Congress that the FBI found enough fentanyl in one tractor trailer in Arizona. Now get this. To kill the entire state of Pennsylvania. So what we're looking at with the sophistication of this deadly fentanyl is fighting against weapons of mass destruction brought into the United States. You cannot afford to ignore it. The Democrats opened the border. Now President Trump has shut the border and these drug runners are now trying to use boats and vessels, small vessels, to run these terrible weapons of mass destruction into our nation. And we really don't have a choice. And it's perfectly legal. I commend the Trump administration and my friend Pete Hetzeff are stepping up and taking action here.
Steve Gruber
And well, we have to do something. Sitting idly by, leaving an open border and drug cartels bringing in piles of money. Look, the way you hurt the drug cartels is to hurt their profits, to hurt their money. Right? You cut, you choke off that money, Don, and you can have a real impact. Finally. And declaring them as terrorist organizations was a brilliant move. I don't think Americans oppose that either, do they?
Don Brown
Absolutely not. And listen, the Democrats have no idea what they're talking about. They seem to be drug friendly just like they're anti police. You have to wonder what they're thinking. You know, this is not unprecedented at all. Many American presidents have ordered action on the high seas, going back to Thomas Jefferson. The Barbary pirates wars to protect American interests. Abraham Lincoln seized a royal mail ship, the Trent, which had Confederate sympathizers on the high seas. President Reagan sent the 82nd Airborne into Grenada to protect Americans against that coup. President George H.W. bush sent troops into Noriega to capture Manuel Noriega as a result of drug running coming out of Panama. Bill Clinton ordered a blockade of Haiti to protect Americans. It's not unprecedented. The united, the United States Constitution, Article 2 gives the President the inherent right to protect Americans on the high seas. The president is operating fully within his constitutional authority and under international law. So the Democrats are just spouting off the mouth again, really not knowing what they're talking about. President Trump and Secretary Hedgehoff have to take the action they're taking, and again, I commend them for it. Steve.
Steve Gruber
Well, Don, I also want to ask you about your race to be the next senator for the state of North Carolina. Michael Whatley was the first guy to announce, but your polling numbers put you neck and neck with Michael Whatley, the former RNC chair now in the state of North Carolina. Tell us about the state of the race.
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Don Brown
I actually announced before Whatley and then to run against Senator Tillis, who dropped out. Whatley dropped into the race, I would say, toward the end of June after Laura Trump, who was President Trump's first choice, elected not to run. Now they, the entire Republican machine and the, and you know, certain elites within the Republican Party are trying to ram White down the throat of North County Republicans, but North County Republicans are not having it and he's outsmitting me probably 100 to 1. But right now we just had a poll released through Politico conducted by the Carolina Journal that the race between Whatley and I is basically a statistical tie. The grassroots want to change and the momentum is with us. We're going to take Whateley out and then we're going to set our sights on Roy Cooper, the most liberal governor in the state's history who basically drove North Carolina's economy into the ground during COVID and who also commuted 15 savage murderers on the day that he left office who were facing the death penalty. Murderers just like the thug that killed this poor arena, this Ukrainian girl here in Charlotte. We're going to take Roy Cooper out. He has a target rich record and we're going to expose that record and we're going to keep this seat in the hands of the Republican Party. And I want to step forward and help us fight this national debt and finally get this country turned around.
Steve Gruber
And Don, if somebody wants to find out more, if they like your, your positions, they're pretty straightforward, pretty blunt. How do they find you?
Don Brown
Very blunt. We're not playing any games, no status quo Republicanism. Please go to our website@brown4nc.com that is Brown B R O W N the the number, the letter for, I mean the word for Brown F O R N c dot com and please drop us a, drop us a line, send us a contribution. We love to, to commute to, to have correspondence with voters. We appreciate the great people that state in North Carolina.
Steve Gruber
Don, good time to you, good conversation. Thank you for being here. We wish you the very best in your campaign.
Don Brown
Thank you very much, Steve. Good to talk to you also.
Steve Gruber
Thank you, sir. All right. After the break, I'll bring on a former Democrat socialist, a DSA member, now a member of the Republican Party, to discuss the dangers of socialism in America. An important topic concerning socialism is on the doorstep of this country, already rooted in New York and Seattle. Now what details straight ahead. Sam. All right, Republicans getting a wake up call. Last week, two major American cities elected Democratic socialist mayors. Zoran Mamdani in New York City, of course, you know that one, but you might have missed this one. Katie Wilson in Seattle, she was finally declared the winner just a couple of days ago. The clear solution for younger Americans is affordability. They'll vote for anything with that idea. They're feeling economic despair, especially the 82% of New York City women between 18 and 29 who voted for Mamdani. Republicans must focus on economic solutions to counter the traction socialism is gaining in this country before it metastasizes. Democratic socialist policies promise government run groceries, free buses, free rent, free everything. If Republicans don't respond and find solutions, they risk a political guillotine with young people equating the Constitution's pursuit of happiness with a government guarantee, a right to happiness. Here to discuss how to change the minds of a generation of younger people with offering that the alternative capitalist free markets and its benefits is GOP strategist Abshir Omar, who himself was a Democrat socialist for a number of years. Abshir, welcome back.
Abshir Omar
Well, thanks for having me back, Steve. And yes, that is true. In my early college days, I was a member of the Democratic Socialists of America and moved through that progression to more moderate or centrist stands within the Democratic Party. And when we look at the election that happened last week with Zoran Mamdani winning in New York City.
Steve Gruber
Let me jump in here. I think people want to know. I want to know what changed your mind? What had you get an epiphany where you said, wait a second, what I've been preaching, what I've been pursuing is Wrong. And you left it. How did that happen and why?
Abshir Omar
Well, that answer is twofold. The first part is when you start looking at the numbers, the economic models, the math does not add up. At the end of the day, we're looking at hopeful projections of economic growth. That's going to translate into the material well being of Americans. When you look at the socialist model, where I was a former Bernie Bro and a campaign staffer for Senator Sanders, political director in the Midwest for the 2020 election, when you start looking at the actual models, it does not work anywhere on planet Earth. And when you bring up the Scandinavian model, they're not socialist societies, they're market economies with elements of socialism, but not full blown Marxist Leninist socialist economic models. But when you're looking at this, that's exactly right. Particular. Right. The second part of that story is how the social dynamics of the DSA changed. Where we started having free speech curtailed, where we're having individuals who were staunch defenders of the Constitution now telling members of the party, you can't use this language. You have to follow these pronouns. You have to do these things. And the reality of it is most people that are affiliated with the Democratic socialists or who like AOC or Bernie Sanders, they're on that side for a few social issues, but most importantly, economics. In this country, when you have politicians talking about, can you afford rent, can you afford to buy groceries, can you afford to pay for childcare? Those are bread and basket budget items for families in this country. And the reality of it is we're technically not in a recession, but everybody is living like we are. Jobs are hard to come by, people's savings have been eviscerated. And when you have candidates running for office. Yeah.
Steve Gruber
What has to be done to turn the tide? Look, you pointed out 81, 82% of young women 18 to 29 in New York City voted for Imam Doni. Same similar numbers in Seattle. We hear about young men and how young men are breaking for Republicans and conservative candidates, but not the women. How do you reel that in? How do you get this back? Because if not, if Donald Trump can't deliver on some of those economic promises that he made during the campaign leading up to the election last year, there's going to be a real bloodbath. I think in the midterms. We have got to get to the word affordability. How do we get there?
Abshir Omar
This election is a canary in the coal mine for the 2020, 20, 26 midterms. If we don't start talking about the economic issues that the average American is facing Wall street is not average America. When you're talking about these tech billionaires, Elon Musk getting a trillion dollar pay package. We live in a free market and you should be able to make as much money as you want. But the reality of it is when the American people are looking to see those that this administration is siding with and what the issues that they're talking about, if you're not talking about the economic well being of the average American to pay for rent, gas, groceries, child care, health care, which is ever increasing issue in this country, we have to start talking about the pain of the everyday American. Otherwise the GOP will suffer a whopping defeat in next November. And this is a serious issue. We need to have that conversation.
Steve Gruber
We certainly do and we're going to continue to have it here. And I look forward to having you back again because this is incredibly important. From a former DSA member to a person who said, wait a second, this is, this is not true. A lot of promises for free stuff, but a lot of promises turn out to be empty. Absher, thank you for being here.
Abshir Omar
Absolutely. Thank you, Steve.
Steve Gruber
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Podcast Announcer
Yes, of course. So I hate to say it, but I am not surprised at all in the slightest. And that's a shame, because when we had our event here at UC Berkeley and we had our protest, people are saying, well, you're going into a super liberal area. Wouldn't you expect this? It's like, yes, I do expect it. And that's exactly why it's wrong. Charlie Kirk was a man. He was a great father, he was a great husband, and he stood for something that he truly believed in. And not many people are courageous like that. And to see a courageous man get shot in broad daylight and your reaction is to mock him is to point at his corpse and to laugh when you try to go and infiltrate these memorials for people who loved him and you mock his death by wearing those freedom shirts and pretending like you're the dead Charlie Kirk. That's just absolutely insane. And what's even more insane is the expectation of it.
Steve Gruber
The expectation, because you just expect these people to come out to mock the death of Charlie Kirk. I thought America was a place where people liked free speech, where the robust conversations and exchange of ideas was cornerstone. Because I believe it is. I believe that the First Amendment of the United States Constitution is the envy of the world and we should protect it with every fiber we have. That's what Charlie Kirk did. We have to carry on that legacy, don't we?
Podcast Announcer
Yes, absolutely. There are too many people now in America from the left, who just do not support free speech at all. They might think they do, but then they'll often condition it by saying, free speech is not hate speech or free speech doesn't give you the right to preach fascism. And the mistake they're making here is they're deeming us as fascist so they can kill us. And they're doing that without even having a conversation with us. They don't have any idea what we believe. They don't even care what we believe, frankly. They just think. Charlie Kirk Bad. Turning Point USA bad. We must do anything we need to do to stop it by any means necessary. And I've been seeing that phrase a lot by any means necessary. And it's just quite a shame to see that there's such a large movement. But I do believe there is hope. I do believe the majority of Americans do still love free speech and do still know that free speech is a liberty that must be protected. And you know, it comes with the consequences of hearing things that you might not like all the time. But that's what we have to protect.
Steve Gruber
John Paul, greatly appreciate you being here. Turning Point continues to grow despite the backlash from the left. We need to be standing up proud and letting our voices be heard. Thank you for being here on a Friday.
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Dr. Kelly Victory
Thanks very much for having me, Steve.
Steve Gruber
Yeah, I could put this on a loop. Every year it's the same thing. But here's the question. Isn't the flu vaccine basically a guess? They spin the wheel. Well, this one will be the prevalent strain. Does the vaccine really work or is it just hit and miss, a shot in the dark?
Dr. Kelly Victory
You are quite correct, Steve. The flu vaccine is largely. It is very, very low efficacy, and here's why. Influenza viruses, much like other respiratory viruses, including rhinovirus and coronavirus number one, they all mutate very quickly. So by the time researchers have come up with whatever vaccine they want to produce, that strain is gone. It's already mutated away. So you're fighting last year's war. And then you are correct. They guess every year which strain of influenza is likely to show up, and they make that guesstimation months before flu season starts. If they happen to guess. Well, in a good year, the influenza vaccine might be as much as 50, 55% effective. In a lousy year, it can be, well, less than 20% effective. And the reality is, people are getting these shots for every single year, flogging their immune system to produce antibodies to a strain that may or may not show up. And the reality is, we really ought to double down on those things that improve our immune function, because the vast majority of people, Steve, other than the very, very old and the very, very young, will really generally sail through influenza. You might be sick for five or seven days, but most people will do just fine.
Steve Gruber
Now, if people do get sick, look, you got to do everything you can to fight it, to stay healthy, eat well, wash your hands. All the things that your mom told you were true. But if people do get sick, what can they do to shorten the duration of the flu?
Dr. Kelly Victory
Well, for starters, if you think you've been in contact with somebody or in a, you know, say, flying on planes regularly the way I do, you can use the simplest of things, like oral sprays and nasal sprays intended to prevent the virus from taking hold cold. The nose and the mouth are the primary ports of entry for upper respiratory viruses. There are many of these nasal sprays and oral rinses on the market. I happen to like the one that the wellness company has because it doesn't include any drugs, no harsh chemicals. It's xylitol and erythritol and tastes really, really good. So I use that regularly. Because of how much I travel. Then should you develop symptoms, There are medications that will decrease the dur of influenza, specifically Tamiflu. It's one of the medications that we include in our medical kit. Not everybody needs to take it, as I said, but it is an option for those people who think that they might be at higher risk for severe infection from influenza, should they contract it.
Steve Gruber
Yeah, I'm talking about something else, and that's politics. Because it seems that politics has become involved, entangled, honestly, in medicine, and it's not a good thing for us overall. A lot of these Democrat governors, when they locked us down during COVID they also banned the use of Ivermectin. It became a crime in some states to even write prescriptions for Ivermectin, one of the most tested, proven drugs of all time, because people found it to be effective. I found it to be effective when I was sick with COVID I took Ivermectin in the morning after an argument with my doctor. She allowed me to get the prescription. By that evening, doctor, I was a different human being. I had turned the corner. I was on my way to recovery almost completely. What about this wave of new ultra liberal governors? Could they once again limit access to important drugs that are used off label on a regular basis?
Dr. Kelly Victory
They certainly, given the precedent that was set during COVID it certainly is possible. That was the first time in my entire medical career that it happened where a legitimate prescription for a FDA approved drug was denied. And you had everyone from governor to CEOs of pharmaceutical pharmacies telling you that you couldn't write that prescription or that they wouldn't fill it. The reality is Ivermectin is incredibly safe. It's been taken by hundreds of millions of people every year around the globe. It's over the counter in almost every country other than the United States. And fortunately, it is likely to slowly become over the counter and more available in the US but in the meantime, you were right, Steve. We have to fight this liberal wave of governors and politicians who are overstepping their bounds. And it's one of the reasons, frankly, that the Wellness Company was established.
Steve Gruber
Yeah, it's another one of the reasons that the Wellness Company offers American made Ivermectin. You can get it there. Doctor, I appreciate you being here. I'm gonna tell people how they can find it. You have a great weekend. We'll talk again soon.
Dr. Kelly Victory
Thanks so much, Steve.
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And welcome back. We've got a major story developing out of the Tennessee Valley, and as usual, it's when you won't hear honestly from the corporate media. The Tennessee Valley Authority, the largest public power provider in America, is officially breaking away from the Biden era green energy delusion and string itself back toward President Donald Trump's America first energy agenda. And folks, this shift is long overdue. At their final board meeting of the year, the TVA's leadership made some things very clear. The agency is reversing course in preparing to restore reliability, accountability and real energy production, not fantasyland solar targets cooked up for climate activists. Now, TVA is still operating without a full board quorum, which means they can't formally implement major decisions quite yet. But inside the agency, senior officials are saying outright the TVA is ready to move and move fast once President Trump's nominees are confirmed by the Senate. Four of those nominees already passed committee with strong support. A fifth is awaiting a hearing. Once they're confirmed, the TVA will finally have a fully rebalanced board that can take decisive action and deliver on the Trump administration's mission to unleash American energy, create jobs and secure long term prosperity for this country. And let's be honest, TVA needs this pivot badly. Because during the Biden years, TVA was dragged into one of the most misguided energy detours in its past history. Past leadership pushed huge carbon neutral pledges and massive solar mandates, 80% carbon free by 2035 and 10 gigawatts of solar by mid century. Nice bumper stickers and slogans. Terrible policy. That agenda swallowed resources that should have gone to reliable, affordable, baseload power. TVA officials now admit those policies weakened the grid, diverted investment and created unnecessary risk for the millions of Americans who depend on TV electricity every single day. But that era is ending. New CEO Don Mool, who took office in April, is signaling a total course correction. He's doing it while earning a millions less than his predecessor Jeff Lyas, who alone tells you how bloated the previous leadership had become under Biden's watch. Under this new direction, TVA is preparing for one of the largest investment periods in its nearly century long history, focusing on nuclear power, grid reliability, modernization and economic growth across the entire Tennessee Valley region. No more chasing unrealistic climate goals. No more diverting billions into unreliable solar arrays. No more pretending that intermittent energy is the future of a modern nation, including ours. TVA and Sire say they are ready to fully realign with President Trump's priorities, but they need the Senate to get this going by confirming the nominees so TVA can officially move forward. Once that board is seated, TVA expected to spend a permanent shift back to energy, to independence, reliability and American strength. The exact opposite at the cost of renewable mandates pushed under Joe Biden. The bottom line is simple. TVA is turning the page. TVA is reclaiming its mission. And TVA is getting back to what it does best, delivering dependable, affordable power to Americans and putting America's energy future back where it belongs in American hands. And so that's quite a big story coming out of the Tennessee Valley Authority today. We'll keep you updated on that in the weeks to come. Remember, if you want to be part of the program, you can always send me an email here. Go to stevegruber.com. send me an email. Might use it right here on the air. In the meantime, God bless you and have a great weekend. We'll talk soon.
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Episode Date: November 14, 2025
Podcast: Real America’s Voice
Host: Steve Gruber
On this episode of America’s Voice Live, host Steve Gruber leads a fast-paced and opinionated discussion on pressing political and cultural issues—emphasizing a “voice for the people” that runs counter to mainstream narratives. Hot topics include the legal battle over California’s redistricting plan, U.S. military action against drug-running boats, the growing influence of socialism in major cities, the fallout from the memorial for Charlie Kirk, debates over healthcare policy, and energy strategy shifts at the Tennessee Valley Authority. Numerous guests—a legal analyst, DOJ reporter, former JAG, GOP strategists, student activists, and medical professionals—help Gruber delve into the legal, moral, and societal stakes of today’s defining stories.
[00:46 – 12:44]
Steve Gruber [04:13]:
“Careful what you wish for, Democrats. If this case goes the other way, it could nullify what California did... This could be a plus 20 or more deal for the Republicans in 2026.”
Sam Mirojoski (Legal Expert) [05:04]:
“This is what happens when you play with fire... If they created this Latino-only district for racial purposes, not political purposes, I think the whole map would get thrown out.”
Kalyn Dees (DOJ Reporter) [07:03]:
“Everything about this effort by California really shows that the Democrats aren’t actually thinking in terms of the long term, they’re just trying to make short term inroads...”
Steve Gruber [08:46]:
“155 million Americans have zero Republican representation in Washington. Compare that to 65 million with no Democratic rep... The Democrats have outmaneuvered and out-gerrymandered the Republicans three to one.”
Sam Mirojoski [09:45]:
“Politics is about winning. Pretending to have sensitivities and be respectful of the opposition when they’re not respectful of us, I think is foolish.”
Kalyn Dees [11:19]:
“If we expand the size of Congress in and of itself, maybe the constituents in each state have more of their issues tended to.”
[14:12 – 21:09]
Steve Gruber [15:52]:
“These plastic drums are not carrying bait. They’re carrying poison to America’s shores. I think most people are behind this.”
Don Brown (Fmr. JAG Officer) [16:27]:
“We lost more Americans in one year to fentanyl than ten years in the Vietnam War... what we’re looking at is fighting against weapons of mass destruction brought into the United States.”
Don Brown [17:43]:
“Democrats have no idea what they’re talking about... This is not unprecedented at all... The President is operating fully within his constitutional authority and under international law.”
[21:12 – 27:42]
Abshir Omar [24:00]:
“The economic models, the math does not add up... Scandinavian countries are not socialist societies... When you start looking at the actual models, it does not work anywhere on planet Earth.”
Abshir Omar [25:54]:
“If Donald Trump can’t deliver on some of those economic promises... there’s going to be a real bloodbath in the midterms. We have got to get to the word affordability.”
[27:45 – 32:49]
John Paul Leone (TPUSA, UC Berkeley) [30:07]:
“To see a courageous man get shot in broad daylight and your reaction is to mock him... That’s just absolutely insane.”
John Paul Leone [31:31]:
“There are too many people now in America from the left who just do not support free speech... They just think: Charlie Kirk bad, Turning Point USA bad—we must do anything to stop it.”
[34:44 – 39:52]
Dr. Kelly Victory [35:02]:
“The flu vaccine is very, very low efficacy... By the time researchers have come up with whatever vaccine, that strain is gone. You’re fighting last year’s war.”
Dr. Kelly Victory [38:38]:
“That was the first time in my entire medical career that it happened (during COVID), where a legitimate prescription for a FDA approved drug was denied... Ivermectin is incredibly safe.”
Steve Gruber [37:50]:
“Politics has become involved, entangled, honestly, in medicine, and it’s not a good thing for us overall.”
[41:22 – 45:01]
Steve Gruber [41:22]:
“TVA is officially breaking away from the Biden-era green energy delusion and steering itself back toward President Donald Trump’s America-first energy agenda.”
Steve Gruber [44:34]:
“TVA is turning the page... getting back to what it does best: delivering dependable, affordable power to Americans and putting America’s energy future back where it belongs—in American hands.”
This episode offers a sweeping tour of “real America’s” policy and culture battleground, as interpreted by Steve Gruber and a rotating cast of ideologically aligned experts. If you missed it, expect passionate debate, cutting legal and economic analysis, and forceful advocacy for a populist, America-first worldview—grounded as much in personal testimony as in political theory.