AMERICA'S VOICE LIVE WITH STEVE GRUBER - NOVEMBER 20TH, 2025

Summary

Real America’s Voice – America’s Voice Live with Steve Gruber (November 20, 2025)

Episode Overview

On this edition of America’s Voice Live, host Steve Gruber dissects the nation’s cultural, political, and economic pulse through the lens of conservative values – shining a light on issues from masculinity in crisis and the role of the nuclear family, to accountability in education, controversial military directives, and government intervention in healthcare. Joined by guests including Professor Scott Galloway, Congresswoman Julia Letlow, Don Brown, and Chuck Flint, Gruber and his guests challenge mainstream narratives in a frank and passionate manner.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

I. The Crisis of Masculinity and Generational Decline

Segment Start: 00:55

• Gruber's Framing: The episode opens with Steve Gruber lamenting the declining state of young American men – describing them as “angry, aimless, medicated,” and castigated for expressing masculinity. He blames declining economic prospects, social narratives labeling “masculinity” as toxic, and the breakdown of the family unit.
• Economic Decline Across Generations:
  • Scott Galloway (02:54): “...for the last two generations people are making less money on an inflation adjusted basis. In addition, the cost of buying a home, the cost of pursuing education continues to skyrocket.”
  • Gruber (04:01): Summarizes Galloway’s analysis: “They’re starting the race with concrete blocks tied to their ankles.”
• Rejection of “Toxic Masculinity”:
  • Charlie Kirk (via clip, 04:30): “We need to lift up men...They need to turn into dangerous gentlemen and understand what exactly that means, which is to protect the innocent. Know your power, use it prudently, and go on an adventure. And stop being a boy in your parents’ home.”
  • Scott Galloway (05:32): “There’s no such thing as toxic masculinity. There’s cruelty, there’s criminal behavior, there’s abuse of power, but if you do any of those things, you are not masculine, that is anti-masculine.”
• Endurance and Rejection as a Male Superpower:
  • Scott Galloway (06:55): “...the most important thing in life [for young men]...is the ability to endure rejection. If you want to score above your weight class, economically or romantically, then get ready to get out a big spoon and eat your ability to endure no. The only way you ever get to amazing yeses is with a lot of no’s.”

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II. The Role of Fathers and the Effects of Father Absence

Segment Start: 07:54

• Dr. Farrell (07:54): Discusses statistical risks for children raised without fathers:
  • “A kid without a dad is four times more likely to live in poverty than a kid with a dad.”
  • Lists elevated risks for behavioral problems, suicide, crime, gang involvement, teen pregnancy, and more.
• Gruber Commentary (09:03): Critiques progressive dismissiveness of traditional family, framing the “war on boys and men” as an open campaign.

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III. The Left’s Portrayal of Masculinity and the Political Divide

Segment Start: 09:24

• Unknown Female Speaker (09:24): Critiques online radicalization of young men into “an insecure masculinity that requires the domination of others...”
• Gruber's Rebuttal: He calls out what he sees as the left’s tendency to racialize and demonize masculinity, but declares young men “are waking up” and rejecting this framing.
• Dave Portnoy/Barstool Perspective (10:31): Speaks to why Democrats are losing young male voters:
  • Eric Bowling (10:47): “They were very anti-normal guys...The bad guy became the bad guy.”
  • Gruber (11:20): “Democrats told young men, and keep telling young men, especially white Christian conservative men, that they are the problem with society…”

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IV. Reclaiming Masculinity: Cultural and Faith-Based Perspectives

Segment Start: 12:05

• Sean Duffy (12:05): Trump’s Transportation Secretary discusses the resurgence of masculinity:
  • “It is the chivalry, it’s respecting women...protecting your family, protecting your kids and faith is such a big part of it.”
  • “It was the attack on masculinity, you know, calling us toxic...When they had an outlet that would actually celebrate them, would talk about how great they are...they gravitated towards it and they rejected...the ‘you’re toxic’...”
• Gruber’s Rallying Cry (13:07, 15:18): Direct appeal to young men to embrace their strength, protect others, and be proud of their masculinity in the face of adversity.

Notable Quote (15:18 | Steve Gruber):
“The world needs real men again. So to every young man listening right now, you’re not the problem. You are, in fact, the answer… You were built for such a thing and a time like this. Get in the weight room. Get in the word. Find a mentor...”

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V. Education in America: Federal Overreach or States’ Rights?

Segment Start: 15:39

• Academic Decline Facts: Gruber highlights dismal national assessment statistics – 70%+ of US students reading at or below basic levels; 80% of seniors not proficient at math – in spite of trillions spent since the federal Department of Education was founded in 1979.
• Congresswoman Julia Letlow Interview (16:56):
  • Letlow’s Position: “Education is the answer. If you give a child an education, you give them a future...I am so, so thrilled what Secretary McMahon has announced this week, that she will be returning power back to the states where it belongs.”
  • On Bureaucracy and the DOE: “...That was just bloated bureaucracy. Those dollars could actually be going down to the states where it belongs...”
  • On Teachers’ Unions: “The unions have done such a disservice to education in this country...Trillions of dollars spent for what? Give it back to the states. Let us teach our children. Let parents have a say when it comes to their child’s education, and then we will produce productive citizens...”
  • Letlow (19:30): Advocates for disbanding the federal Department of Education.

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VI. The Military, Presidential Power, and Calls to Disobey Orders

Segment Start: 22:43

• Context: US military strikes drug boats; Senator Alyssa Slotkin and others post a video urging the military to refuse “illegal orders”.
• Clip Highlights (22:43-23:47):
  • “Right now, the threats to our Constitution aren’t just coming from abroad, but from right here at home. Our laws are clear. You can refuse illegal orders.” – Alyssa Slotkin (23:07)
• Don Brown (24:24):
  • Calls the video “a call for insurrection.”
  • Cites presidential historical precedent for military action without Congressional approval.
  • Advocates prosecuting Senators urging refusal of “lawful orders.”
  • Criticizes Democratic outrage as selective and politically motivated, pointing to lack of objection during Obama’s administration.

Notable Quote (24:24 | Don Brown):
“These dingbat Democrats don’t know any more about the Constitution than I know how to read Chinese, nor do they care about it...There’s plenty of precedents, historically and constitutionally. These Democrats are full of it. They’re insurrectionists and maybe they ought to be prosecuted themselves for encouraging insurrection.”

• The FEMA Crisis (27:06 | Steve Gruber): Shares a personal anecdote about a friend’s son lost to fentanyl, emphasizing the stakes of the drug war and necessity for strong presidential authority.

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VII. Free Speech, Campus Unrest, and the “Antifa Funding” Controversy

Segment Start: 39:00

• UC Berkeley Clashes: DOJ launches investigation into violent protests at a Turning Point USA event.
• Chuck Flint (40:31):
  • Attributes violence to Antifa and “501c3 left wing nonprofits” (citing “By Any Means Necessary” as an instigator).
  • Calls for the IRS to strip nonprofits supporting Antifa of their tax-exempt status: “If you want to stop Antifa, just cut off the money train.”
• Gruber (42:29): Reminds listeners of IRS hostility to conservative groups in the past, argues forceful action should be taken against violent agitators.
• Chuck Flint (44:05): Rounds out with a defense of tough action – including considering CAIR and the Muslim Brotherhood as terrorist organizations when involved in unrest.

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VIII. Corruption at CMS & Crony Capitalism in Health Care

Segment Start: 44:42

• Gruber’s Breakdown: Criticizes recent CMS rule changes as “crony capitalism at its worst,” gifting massive financial advantage to specific favored companies.
• Allegations:
  • Federal agency creates price controls to squeeze out small US manufacturers of skin grafts.
  • Select insiders receive “king of all sweetheart deals.”
  • Frames it as “un-American,” echoing Trump’s previous statements that such moves would be “dead in the water” under his watch.
• Call to Action: Appeals for Trump administration to intervene and for America First supporters to remain vigilant.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Scott Galloway (02:54):
  “For the first time in US history, a 30 year old is no longer doing as well as his or her parents were at 30. This is a breakdown in the fundamental agreement we have with any society and it creates rage and shame.”

• Charlie Kirk (04:30):
  “We need to lift up men...turn into dangerous gentlemen...protect the innocent. Know your power, use it prudently, and go on an adventure.”

• Don Brown (24:24):
  “These dingbat Democrats don’t know any more about the Constitution than I know how to read Chinese, nor do they care about it. Let’s just set the record straight...”

• Congresswoman Julia Letlow (18:36):
  “The federal government needs to stay out of the way. Give back power to local governments...These are not the government’s children. These are our children.”

• Steve Gruber (15:18):
  “If you’re a boy, be a boy, loud and proud. You don’t need to act like a proper little girl to be acceptable in society.”

• Chuck Flint (41:31):
  “If you want to stop Antifa, just cut off the money train. Strip these groups of their tax exempt status and Antifa won’t be able to do anything.”

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Masculinity in Crisis & Economic Issues: 00:55 – 13:07
• Family Structure & Impact of Fatherlessness: 07:54 – 09:24
• Political Framing of Masculinity: 09:24 – 13:07
• Education Reform and Local Control: 15:39 – 21:42
• Military Orders and Presidential Authority: 22:43 – 29:00
• Campus Unrest & Nonprofit Accountability: 39:00 – 44:40
• CMS Health Policy & Corporate Favoritism: 44:42 – 51:11

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Conclusion

America’s Voice Live leans hard into its promise of “real news, honest views” by confronting culture war flashpoints, eschewing progressive talking points, and advocating bold policy solutions – whether it’s reclaiming masculinity, devolving educational authority, defending presidential war powers, or exposing bureaucratic overreach. Host Steve Gruber and guests repeatedly call on their audience to stand up for traditional American values and refuse to “back down.”

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For a full breakdown of any discussion, refer to the indicated timestamps. Notable speaker quotes have also been included for quick reference.

Transcript

[Steve Guerrero]

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[Congresswoman Julia Letlow]

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[Steve Guerrero]

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[Alyssa Slotkin]

Right up over this hill. Yellow cartel.

[Steve Guerrero]

I see him. I see him.

[Chuck Flint]

I.

[Steve Guerrero]

Breaking news right now here on Real America's Voice Filtered. These people are domestic terrorists and unapologetic. We're here to take a stand for God and country. Let's feel good. America's Voice Live starts now. Welcome to America's Voice Live. I'm Secret. It's Thursday the 20th of November in the year of our Lord 2025. Let's get to the day's top stories. As always, thank you for joining me here. Unreal. America's Voice. As academic performance continues to fall, parents and educators alike argue that schools should return to their core mission, teaching math, history, reading and science, rather than drifting into political or ideological instruction. I'll bring on Congresswoman Julia Letlow of Louisiana to discuss that in detail. Also, the Trump administration continues to target drug boats in both the Caribbean and the eastern Pacific. Meanwhile, Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro has reportedly asked to speak with President Trump, discuss that as well. And then later, the Department of Justice has launched an investigation into UC Berkeley for unrest and riots outside of a Turning Point USA event on campus. I'll bring on a former prosecutor to break that down for us. All the details and updates coming your way. But first, we start with this important topic. We are watching an entire generation of young men drift. Angry, aimless, medicated. There are more men on Ritalin in the United States today than any other country. They're addicted to screens and told from every corner that the very thing that could save them, their God given masculinity, is the problem. I'm here to tell you that is a straight up lie from the pit. Look at the numbers. Professor Scott Galloway. And he is no conservative, mind you. He says a New York liberal who teaches at nyu, but he lays it out cold. This generation of young men is the first in American history that is worse off than their parents at the same age. Our economy is failing them.

[Scott Galloway]

Listen, as we go down generations, we're seeing that for the last two generations people are making less money on an inflation adjusted basis. In addition, the cost of buying a home, the cost of pursuing education continues to skyrocket. So the purchasing power, the prosperity is inversely correlated to age. Simply put, as we get younger, we're taking away opportunity and prosperity from our youngest. The social contract that is now no longer in place. And for the first time in the US history, a 30 year old is no longer doing as well. His or her parents were at 30. This is a breakdown in the fundamental agreement we have with any society and it creates rage and shame. As a result, people over the age of 55 feel pretty good about America. But less than 1 in 5 people under the age of 34 feel very good about America. This creates an incendiary righteous movements cuts to our society end up becoming opportunistic infections. Because generally speaking, young people have a warranted envy. They're pissed off and they're angry that they don't enjoy the same spoils and prosperity that were provided to our generation.

[Steve Guerrero]

Wages flat, housing impossible, student debt that's crushing, marriage and family formation collapsing. Galloway says it himself. They're starting the race with concrete blocks tied to their ankles. And what do we do? We hand them a lecture on toxic masculinity instead of giving them a ladder. Toxic masculinity. There it is, the favorite boogeyman of the left. And just like me, Charlie Kirk rejected that label over and over again. Here's an example.

[Alyssa Slotkin]

What's your opinion on toxic masculinity? You mean that toxic masculinity that stormed Normandy beach and won World War II? Or that the toss the toxic masculinity that founded the country? Or primarily men that go and fight our wars, fight our battles? I mean it's a preposterous statement. Instead we need to lift up men no longer say that they need to be boys, but they need to turn into dangerous gentlemen and understand what exactly that means, which is to protect the innocent. Know your power, use it prudently and go on an adventure. And stop being a boy in your parents home.

[Steve Guerrero]

Stop being a boy in your parents home. Scott Galloway again, no right winger says the same. The Phrase toxic masculinity is one of the most destructive terms ever introduced into our culture. Why? Because it takes away every natural male impulse. Competition, risk taking, protection, provision, and yes, actually fighting for what you believe in and pretends those things are the disease instead of the cure. Here he is.

[Scott Galloway]

We've been celebrating femininity as we should, and we should do nothing to get.

[Steve Guerrero]

In the way of the fact that.

[Scott Galloway]

Women are doing really well. But let's also celebrate our young men and recognize that being risk aggressive, being a provider, being strong, wanting to be fit, such you can protect and provide, those are wonderful things. Let's stop pathologizing it, let's embrace femininity. But let's also, for God's sakes, embrace masculinity. There's no such thing as toxic masculinity. There's cruelty, there's criminal behavior, there's abuse of power, but if you do any of those things, you are not masculine, that is anti masculine.

[Steve Guerrero]

There is no such thing as toxic masculinity. He's right. It's a boogeyman, like I said, designed to make men feel shame and withdrawn to the shadows. Young men today have been told that to be loud is to be dangerous. To be ambitious is to be greedy. To want to fight for something is to be a potential school shooter and a bully. They've been shamed for standing too tall, speaking too directly, or, God forbid, failing at asking a girl out and trying again. Galloway nails this too. A man's superpower, he says, is his ability to endure rejection. You get told no a thousand times on the field, in the job market, in dating, in sales, and you keep swinging.

[Scott Galloway]

When men are willing to take risks, develop a kindness, practice, show resilience, dress better, for God's sake. Shower, work out. These things are really important. And they teach people, the young men, the most important thing in life. And that's the ability to endure rejection. If you want to score above your weight class, economically or romantically, then get ready to get out a big spoon and eat your ability to endure no. The only way you ever get to amazing yeses is with a lot of no's.

[Steve Guerrero]

They need strong men in their lives to teach them that. Strong men. But the left has built a culture that punishes swinging and rewards curling up in a ball in the fetal position. Who's paying the price? More boys raised without dads, for one. When we raise weak men, they become weak fathers. Or even worse, they fail to be one at all. The American Freedom alliance ran the data. Here's what they found there's a bunch.

[Dr. Farrell]

Of kids coming home from the hospital and then they come home to a home and there's no man in the house. Big deal. What's the so what?

[Steve Guerrero]

Well, if you look at the.

[Dr. Farrell]

I don't know if you can read that. Well, if you look at the data, and Dr. Farrell went through some of this. I mean, this is a well researched area. The data is presented very well. To me, it's unassailable. But if you look at any outcome, if you look at any measure of performance with kids with dads versus kids without dads, it's an extraordinary story that is told. So you look at the first thing, just poverty. People say they don't like poverty. Okay, well, a kid without a dad is four times more likely to live in poverty than a kid with a dad. Is that surprising?

[Steve Guerrero]

Not to me.

[Dr. Farrell]

Not to me. You got a single mom busting her ass trying to raise a bunch of kids. You know, no dad in the house. It's not surprising that so many of them live in poverty. Look at some of the others. Behavioral problems. The suicide stories were tragic today. Infant mortality, likely to go to prison, likely to commit crime, join gangs. Being a girl getting pregnant, on and on and on and on. It's a very sad story. To me, it is compelling.

[Steve Guerrero]

Now the left has acted like the nuclear family is just an ancient relic. They've ripped the blueprint out of society's hands and then act shocked when the house collapses. The war on boys and men isn't a secret. It's being promoted by the radical left, including the likes of aoc. Talk about toxic. Listen to this.

[Unknown Female Speaker (possibly a commentator or co-host)]

And they are able to radicalize and target and exploit a generation of young boys in particular, away from healthy masculinity and into an insecure masculinity that requires the domination of others who are poorer, browner, darker, or a different gender than them. And that is why they are resonating online. Because they are appealing to the most basest and worst parts of human nature to divide.

[Steve Guerrero]

Talking about the worst parts of human nature. She turned it into a racist conversation, as she often does. But here's the good news. And I mean shouted from the rooftops good news. They're waking up. Young men are starting to say no more. There are people like Dave Portnoy, a guy who built barstool sports from the ground up out of nothing. Call it like it is. The Democratic Party has become anti normal. Dude, here's Dave. What happened to the Democrats? Why did they lose so many young men?

[Eric Bowling]

People often think I have the answer. My nutshell is generally they were very anti normal guys. Like, if there's. What do you mean normal guys?

[Don Brown]

It's okay. There's only one way to be a guy.

[Eric Bowling]

If that girl's hot, hey, that girl's hot. I want drink, I want to party. I like frat parties. I like that. That was all bad. Like, and to be honest, it's of course the white guy. And, and this sounds, but was the bad guy became the bad guy.

[Alyssa Slotkin]

And there's a lot of, you know.

[Eric Bowling]

White dudes who are like, well, I'm not the bad guy. Like, what are you getting mad at me for? I wasn't here for colonialism or any.

[Steve Guerrero]

Of the stuff that you guys are.

[Eric Bowling]

Complaining about 200 years ago. Like, what did I do?

[Steve Guerrero]

Democrats told young men, and keep telling young men, especially white Christian conservative men, that they are the problem with society. They tanked the economy, ripped away opportunities from the next generation, and then had the gall to tell 20 year old dudes that the problem with society is that too many men want to be protectors and providers. Thankfully, with this administration, we have leaders in power who celebrate the attributes of actually good men. Young men get to watch Trump's Transportation secretary, Sean Duffy, for example, a father of nine, talk about men coming back to what it means to be a strong man, a protector, a provider. Listen, we legitimately almost lost what it means to be a man, but it's come back this close and it came.

[Sean Duffy]

Back in full force because of guys like you that go, I'm going to talk about what does it mean to be a man? And this group of great men that'll talk about what it means to be a man. And it is the chivalry, it's respecting women. By the way, these are very Catholic ideas. We started these ideas in Western civilization and protecting your family, protecting your kids and faith is such a big part of it.

[Steve Guerrero]

Where do you think the resurgence came from?

[Sean Duffy]

I think it was the attack on masculinity, you know, calling us toxic.

[Steve Guerrero]

Yeah, but how long did that go on for?

[Sean Duffy]

Too long. It was a slow burn. I think it was a slow burn that came to a crescendo of these attacks on these boys. And when they had an outlet that would actually celebrate them, would talk about how great they are and how great masculinity actually is, they gravitated towards it and they rejected. Right, the you're toxic. And they would gravitate to the celebration.

[Steve Guerrero]

Chivalry, respecting women, protecting your family and kids. This is what we need to be teaching and applauding. Frankly, the next generation needs to see the conservative movement, the churches, the coaches, the dads who never left, standing up and saying, son, we've got your back. Be strong, be courageous. The world needs real men again. So to every young man listening right now, you're not the problem. You are, in fact, the answer. The same fire God put in David when he ran toward Goliath. The same strength that he gave to Joshua when he said, be strong and courageous. It's in you. If you're a boy, be a boy, loud and proud. You don't need to act like a proper little girl to be acceptable in society. The world took its best shot. Feminized schools, broken homes, a culture that medicates boys instead of raising them, and you're still standing. That's not weakness, that's proof. You were built for such a thing. And a time like this. Get in the weight room. Get in the word. Find a mentor, an older man who's been through the fire. Learn a trade. Ask the girl out. And if she says no, tip your hat and keep walking like a man. Protect the weak. Provide for your family. Lead love wants you docile. God made you dangerous and for a good reason. The tide is turning, fellas. They told you to sit down and shut up. You're standing up and roaring. And a generation of women, children, churches, and a nation that forgot how much it needs strong men is about to remember. Be that man. The one your grandfather would have shaken your hand for becoming. We're proud of you. And we're not going anywhere. Now, let's get to work. Oh, and one more thing, just for fun. I'm a man. Hear me roar. Alright, coming up after the break, I'll bring on Congresswoman Julia Letlow from Louisiana to discuss the Trump administration's efforts to return control of education back to the states. And it couldn't come soon enough.

[Unknown Female Speaker (possibly a commentator or co-host)]

What do you think makes the perfect snack?

[Don Brown]

Hmm, it's gotta be when I'm really.

[Steve Guerrero]

Craving it and it's convenient.

[Unknown Female Speaker (possibly a commentator or co-host)]

Could you be more specific?

[Steve Guerrero]

When it's cravenient. Okay, like a freshly baked cookie made with real butter, available right down the street at am, pm. Or a savory breakfast sandwich I can grab in just a second at am, pm.

[Unknown Female Speaker (possibly a commentator or co-host)]

I'm seeing a pattern here.

[Steve Guerrero]

Well, yeah, we're talking about what I.

[Unknown Female Speaker (possibly a commentator or co-host)]

Crave, which is anything from am, pm.

[Steve Guerrero]

What more could you want? Stop by AMPM where the snacks and drinks are perfectly craveable and convenient. That's cravenience ampm Too much good stuff. Well, across the country, concerns about the direction of public education continue to grow as academic performance continues to fall. Parents and educators alike argue that schools should return to their core mission, teaching math, history, reading, and science, rather than drifting into political or ideological instruction. Propaganda, we call it. And the latest National Assessment of Educational Progress report shows just how serious the situation has become. Nearly 70% of fourth and eighth graders in this country are reading at or below basic levels, and high school seniors are performing even worse, with close to 80% not proficient in math. Shocking science scores have also dropped sharply since 2019, despite more than 2. $3 trillion in federal spending since the Department of Education was created back in 1979. In response, Secretary of Education Linda McMahon has put forward a plan to reduce federal bureaucracy and return authority to the states and parents when it comes to teaching our kids. He'll be now to discuss this. Congresswoman Julia Letlow of Louisiana 5. Congresswoman, thank you for being here.

[Congresswoman Julia Letlow]

Thank you for having me, Steve, always a pleasure.

[Steve Guerrero]

Always a pleasure to have you here. Look, these numbers, they're not just disappointing, they're frightening. If our young people can't do math, can't read, can't do basic skills, and yet we're graduating them out of high school. And worse, some of these kids come out of colleges not much better. It's a shame, isn't it?

[Congresswoman Julia Letlow]

It's absolutely a shame. If you ask me, education is the answer. If you give a child an education, you give them a future. And I am so, so thrilled what Secretary McMahon has announced this week that she will be returning power back to the states where it belongs. In my home state of Louisiana, we are leading the charge. We were actually the first state that she visited on her national tour, and she was astounded about the improvements that we've made here in Louisiana. Now, that comes from the top down. We have an amazing governor and superintendent who have led that charge and increased our performance scores overall exponentially for our state. So it just goes to show you what can happen if you put power back in the hands of the states, if you put power back where it's closest to the student and parents, then you will find success. We have to do something because, again, I'll go back to education, is the answer.

[Steve Guerrero]

Well, and I give credit to Governor Landry there in Louisiana. He's done fine work. Other states on both sides of the political spectrum have done well. Mississippi, they got the Mississippi miracle. Massachusetts took away control of their education from the feds back in the early 90s, and they've done well. When the federal government overreaches into the classroom of the different states, the results are not good, are they?

[Congresswoman Julia Letlow]

Absolutely not. The federal government needs to stay out of the way. Give back power to local governments, to local control. We know best how to educate our children. These are not. These are not the government's children. These are our children. So put power back in local control, back to the states. We know best how to educate our own.

[Steve Guerrero]

And what should be the priorities? As you look at the Department of Education being scaled back, $3 trillion has been spent since 1979. It has not returned the dividends as promised. In fact, has become an overblown bureaucracy, as happens in Washington. The pig keeps going to the trough, it gets fatter, but not giving Americans results. There's no return on investment here. Talk about a math failure. Congressman. There's no return on investment. Do you think the Department of Education should be disbanded?

[Congresswoman Julia Letlow]

I do. Again, that would take an act of Congress to get across the finish line. But we saw during the shutdown that they were mostly furloughed and the education continued to move forward in all of the states. So I think that a lot of that is just bloated bureaucracy. Those dollars could actually be going down to the states where it belong. You know, we're still going to continue to have Title 1 funding. We're still going to provide assistance for special needs students. But for the most part, everything can go to these other agencies, move fluidly down to the states. I know a lot is going to the Labor Secretary, Lori Chavez. Dreamer is an amazing friend of mine who will do an incredible job of making sure that she's a good steward of our taxpayer dollars. And they are getting down to the states where they belong and eventually making their way to the students and the teachers. So I'm hopeful about the future and what this means.

[Steve Guerrero]

And so am I. And the other component of this that doesn't get discussed as much as it should in my opinion, is the role of unions in education today. The nea, the aft, these unions. I hear them talk a lot about their membership, about political power, about their wages, their benefits. I don't hear them talk about students. Students. Shouldn't that be their core focus?

[Congresswoman Julia Letlow]

Absolutely. And you really. It's baffling that they don't. Another population that they don't discuss or want to hear any input from are parents. And that is astounding as well, because we know that when parents are involved, when parents have a seat at the table when it comes to their child's education, then that child will succeed. So, really, the unions have done such a disservice to education in this country, along with the Department of Education. Trillions of dollars spent for what? Give it back to the states. Let us teach our children. Let parents have a say when it comes to their child's education, and then we will produce productive citizens, the next generation moving forward that can build this country.

[Steve Guerrero]

Congresswoman, I'm going to leave it there for today. Really appreciate you taking the time. I know you're busy on the Hill today, so thank you for stopping in.

[Congresswoman Julia Letlow]

Always a pleasure. Thank you.

[Steve Guerrero]

There you have it. Julia Ludlow here from Louisiana. It's been a big day so far. We've got a lot more here to come on the Trump administration continuing to target these drug boats. We'll talk about that and much more straight ahead on America's Voice live. Trump has now indicated he will speak with Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro, dictator, really? Just days after the US carried out its 21st known strikes in September on narcotics vessels, killing at least 83 people. New York Times reports the administration considers these strikes fully legal because it has declared the United States in an armed conflict with the drug cartels, with anyone on those boats as classified as a combatant. In response, Michigan Democratic Senator Alyssa Slotkin posted a video on social media directly urging U.S. troops to disobey President Trump if he issues what she calls illegal orders. And she was joined by some of her friends. Listen.

[Alyssa Slotkin]

We want to speak directly to members of the military and the intelligence community who take risks each day to keep Americans safe.

[Unknown Female Speaker (possibly a commentator or co-host)]

We know you are under enormous stress and pressure right now. Americans trust their military, but that trust is at risk.

[Alyssa Slotkin]

This administration is pitting our uniformed military and intelligence community professionals against American citizens like us. You all swore an oath to protect.

[Unknown Female Speaker (possibly a commentator or co-host)]

And defend this Constitution.

[Alyssa Slotkin]

Right now, the threats to our Constitution aren't just coming from abroad, but from right here at home. Our laws are clear. You can refuse illegal orders.

[Unknown Female Speaker (possibly a commentator or co-host)]

You can refuse illegal orders.

[Alyssa Slotkin]

You must refuse illegal orders.

[Unknown Female Speaker (possibly a commentator or co-host)]

No one has to carry out orders that violate the law or our Constitution.

[Alyssa Slotkin]

We know this is hard and that it's a difficult time to be a public servant.

[Unknown Female Speaker (possibly a commentator or co-host)]

But whether you're serving in the city, CIA, the army, our Navy, the Air.

[Alyssa Slotkin]

Force, your vigilance is critical.

[Unknown Female Speaker (possibly a commentator or co-host)]

And know that we have your back. Because now, more than ever, the American people need you. We need you to stand up for.

[Alyssa Slotkin]

Our laws, our Constitution, and who we are as Americans. Don't give up. Don't give up. Don't give up.

[Steve Guerrero]

Don't give up the ship, don't give up the ship. An old Navy saying, by the way, from the War of 1812, must refuse illegal orders. Of course, they gave no examples whatsoever. Did the Senator from Arizona, the senator from Michigan, and those others from the House. Here to discuss another Senate candidate in North Carolina, Don Brown. Don, I know you've seen that video. To me, it's an open call for insurrection. It's an open call for the military to choose their own orders, do as they please. No refuse. No illegal orders that I could find there that were refused. What do you make of this?

[Don Brown]

Well, you're correct. It is a call for insurrection. These dingbat Democrats don't know any more about the Constitution than I know how to read Chinese, nor do they care about it. Let's just set the record straight. Article 2 of the Constitution makes the President of the United States Commander in chief of the armed forces. And all throughout our history, Steve, there have been multiple instances of the President taking action even without congressional authority to protect Americans, going all the way back to Thomas Jefferson, the Barbary Wars, Abraham Lincoln, Assisi, HMS Trent, which had Confederate sympathizers. Franklin Roosevelt, even before Pearl harbor in the early months of 1941, issued kill on sight orders for the US Navy to shoot German U boats. President Reagan sent the 101st Airborne into Grenada to save students. George H.W. bush sent the army into Panama over drug running and and Noriega's anti American activities. Bill Clinton blockaded Haiti. It's gone on and on and on. There's plenty of precedents, historically and constitutionally. These Democrats are full of it. They're insurrectionists and maybe they ought to be prosecuted themselves for encouraging insurrection.

[Steve Guerrero]

Yeah. Barack Obama dropped 92,000 bombs, 92,000 bombs during his administration on foreign countries. I don't remember the folks in the Democrat party saying, refuse those illegal orders. And the telling part about this to me, Don, is they give not a single example because there's not one to give.

[Don Brown]

Well, of course they don't have any examples. I just rattled off about six examples out of history. You added the seventh with Barack Obama. But look, we got to remember what's happened here. The Democrats threw the borders wide open for four years and we had a fentanyl crisis. And fentanyl has been a weapon of mass destruction. We lost more Americans to fentanyl and in one year, then 10 years of the Vietnam War. Now that the President has effectively shut the southern border by the use of the United States military, they're trying to use these drug boats to run them in. These drug boats are bringing in weapons of mass destruction that will kill Americans. Is it a president's duty as commander in chief to save Americans? And these Democrats ought to all be prosecuted for insurrection for encouraging United States military to disobey what are lawful orders. Shame on it.

[Steve Guerrero]

Yeah. One of the other ridiculous arguments is it's just cocaine. It's not fentanyl. I'm sure they can read headlines the same as I can. Fentanyl is being laced into cocaine, into marijuana, into all sorts of other street drugs. Fentanyl is killing people. It killed the son of a good friend of mine last year. A college kid who went out on a weekend and experimented, took one pill.

[Eric Bowling]

It was.

[Steve Guerrero]

He died. 19 years old. This is an attack. This is a war on America. I'm disgusted by what I saw.

[Don Brown]

And that sad story is repeated over and over. I could cite numerous examples here in North Carolina. Listen, you may recall just a few years ago, Chris Wray, when he was still the director of the FBI, testified that they found more fentanyl in one tractor trailer. Let me rephrase. Enough Fentanyl in one tractor trailer in Arizona to kill the entire state of Pennsylvania. It is a weapon of mass destruction. And these Democrats, like, they wanted to come in. So they wanted to come in so much that they're encouraging insurrection and encouraging members of armed forces to disobey the commander in chief. I say they need to be prosecuted.

[Steve Guerrero]

When you're the senator from North Carolina, how would you react to this? What would your vote be? How would you support the attack and the war on drugs?

[Don Brown]

Well, first of all, I will be the senator from North Carolina and I'm going to call the call for the prosecution of these insurrectionist Democrats who are encouraging violations of lawful orders by the commander in chief of the United States military. They are engaging in insurrection against the Constitution itself, against the President's authority. I would use the bully pulpit to push that. I'd be on the phone with Pam Bondi demanding she bring indictments against these idiots. And I would certainly be standing with our armed forces. As a veteran myself, I've taken an oath and allegiance to the Constitution. I know and can smell a rat when I see one. You just played about 12 of them there. However many Democrats were given this disobeyed junk they were given just a moment ago.

[Steve Guerrero]

All right, Don, people listening to you and like what you have to say. How can they find you?

[Don Brown]

Piece of cake. Brown4nc.com that's brown f o r n c.com Please come on board. Chip in a few bucks. Write us. We'll write you back. And look forward to interacting with fellow North Carolinians and folks from all over the nation.

[Steve Guerrero]

Don, thank you so much for being here.

[Don Brown]

Thank you, Steve. Look forward to seeing you again soon.

[Steve Guerrero]

As the potential senator for North Carolina just pointed out, freedom has never been free. And lately we've been reminded of just how high the cost can be. Growing violence is meant to shake us, but it should only strengthen our resolve never to back down. And that's why Patriot Mobile exists. For more than 12 years, they've been defending faith, family and freedom while providing the same or better premium network access on all three major U.S. networks. Unlimited data mobile hotspots, international roaming, they do it all. When you switch, you don't sacrifice quality or service. Hundreds of thousands have joined the movement by switching their cell service to Patriot Mobile. Now every time they pay their bill, they're supporting the First Amendment, the Second Amendment, the, the sanctity of life, and our veterans and first responders. Switching is easy. It really is. Keep your number or keep your phone. You can upgrade if you'd like. Their 100% US based customer service team can activate you in minutes on the phone. Call 972-PATRIOT or visit patriotmobile.com RAV today. When you use the promo code RAV, you'll get a free month of service. That's patriotmobile.com RAV or call 972 Patriot. Make the switch today after the break. The Department of Justice has launched an investigation into UC Berkeley for riots outside a Turning Point USA event recently. I'll bring on a former prosecutor to break it down for us. Straight ahead. President Trump has now indicated that he will speak with Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro, dictator, really, just days after the US carried out its 21st known strikes in September on narcotics vessels, killing at least 83 people. New York Times reports the administration considers these strikes fully legal because it has declared the United States in an armed conflict with the drug cartels, with anyone on those boats as classified as a combatant. In response, Michigan Democratic Senator Alyssa Slotkin posted a video on social media directly urging U.S. troops to disobey President Trump if he issues what she calls illegal orders. And she was joined by some of her friends.

[Alyssa Slotkin]

Listen, we want to speak directly to members of the military and the intelligence community who take risks each day to keep Americans safe.

[Unknown Female Speaker (possibly a commentator or co-host)]

We know you are under enormous stress and pressure right now. Americans trust their military, but that trust is at risk.

[Alyssa Slotkin]

This administration is pitting our uniformed military and intelligence community professionals Against American citizens like us. You all swore an oath to protect.

[Unknown Female Speaker (possibly a commentator or co-host)]

And defend this Constitution.

[Alyssa Slotkin]

Right now, the threats to our Constitution aren't just coming from abroad, but from right here at home. Our laws are clear. You can refuse illegal orders.

[Unknown Female Speaker (possibly a commentator or co-host)]

You can refuse illegal orders.

[Alyssa Slotkin]

You must refuse illegal orders.

[Unknown Female Speaker (possibly a commentator or co-host)]

No one has to carry out orders that violate the law or our Constitution.

[Alyssa Slotkin]

We know this is hard and that it's a difficult time to be a public servant.

[Unknown Female Speaker (possibly a commentator or co-host)]

But whether you're serving in the city, CIA, the army, our Navy, the Air.

[Alyssa Slotkin]

Force, your vigilance is critical.

[Unknown Female Speaker (possibly a commentator or co-host)]

And know that we have your back. Because now more than ever, the American people need you. We need you to stand up for.

[Alyssa Slotkin]

Our laws, our Constitution, and who we are as Americans. Don't give up. Don't give up. Don't give up.

[Unknown Female Speaker (possibly a commentator or co-host)]

Don't give up the ship.

[Steve Guerrero]

Don't give up the ship. An old Navy saying, by the way, from the War of 1812, must refuse illegal orders. Of course, they gave no examples whatsoever did the Senator from Arizona, the Senator from Michigan, and those others from the House. Here to discuss another Senate candidate in North Carolina, Don Brown. Don, I know you've seen that video. To me it's an open call for insurrection. It's an open call for the military to choose their own orders, do as they please. No refuse, no illegal orders that I could find there that were refused. What do you make of this?

[Don Brown]

Well, you're correct. It is a call for insurrection. These dingbat Democrats don't know any more about the Constitution than I know how to read Chinese, nor do they care about it. Let's just set the record straight. Article 2 of the Constitution makes the President of the United States Commander in Chief of the Armed forces. And all throughout our history, Steve, there have been multiple instances of the President taking action even without Congressional authority to protect Americans. Going all the way back to Thomas Jefferson, the Barbary Wars, Abraham Lincoln Assisi, HMS Trent, which had Confederate sympathizers. Franklin Roosevelt, even before Pearl harbor in the early months of 1941, issued kill on sight orders for the US Navy to shoot German U boats. President Reagan sent the 101st Airborne into Grenada to save students. George H.W. bush sent the army into Panama over drug running and and Noriega's anti American activities. Bill Clinton blockaded Haiti. It's gone on and on and on. There's plenty of precedents. Historically and constitutionally, these Democrats are full of it. They're insurrectionists. And maybe they ought to be prosecuted themselves for encouraging insurrection.

[Steve Guerrero]

Yeah. Barack Obama dropped 92,000 bombs 92,000 bombs during his administration on foreign countries. I don't remember the folks in the Democrat Party saying, refuse those illegal orders. And the telling part about this to me, Don, is they give not a single example because there's not one to give.

[Don Brown]

Well, of course they don't have any examples. I just rattled off about six examples out of history. You added the seventh with Barack Obama. But look, we got to remember what's happened here. The Democrats threw the borders wide open for four years, and we had a fentanyl crisis. And fentanyl has been a weapon of mass destruction. We lost more Americans to fentanyl in one year. Then 10 years of the Vietnam War. Now that the president has effectively shut the Southern border by the use of the United States military, they're trying to use these drug boats to run them in. These drug boats are bringing in weapons of mass destruction that will kill Americans. Is it a president's duty as commander in chief to save Americans? And these Democrats ought to all be prosecuted for insurrection for encouraging United States military to disobey what are lawful orders. Shame on it.

[Steve Guerrero]

Now, one of the other ridiculous arguments is it's just cocaine. It's not fentanyl. I'm sure they can read headlines the same as I can. Fentanyl is being laced into cocaine, into marijuana, into all sorts of other street drugs. Fentanyl is killing people. It killed the son of a good friend of mine last year, a college kid who went out on a weekend and experimented, took one pillow.

[Eric Bowling]

It was.

[Steve Guerrero]

He died. 19 years old. This is an attack. This is a war on America. I'm disgusted by what I saw.

[Don Brown]

And that sad story is repeated over and over. I could cite numerous examples here in North Carolina. Listen, you may recall just a few years ago, Chris Wray, when he was still the director of the FBI, testified that they found more fentanyl in one tractor trailer. Let me rephrase. Enough Fentanyl in one tractor trailer in Arizona to kill the entire state of Pennsylvania. It is a weapon of mass destruction. And these Democrats, like, they wanted to come in so they wanted to come in so much that they're encouraging insurrection and encouraging members of armed forces to disobey the commander in chief. I say they need to be prosecuted.

[Steve Guerrero]

When you're the senator from North Carolina, how would you react to this? What would your vote be? How would you support the attack and the war on drugs?

[Don Brown]

Well, first of all, I will be the senator from North Carolina. And I'm going to call the call for the prosecution of these insurrectionist Democrats who are encouraging violations of lawful orders by the commander in chief of the United States military. They are engaging in insurrection against the Constitution itself, against the President's authority. I would use the bully pulpit to push that. I'd be on the phone with Pam Bondi demanding she bring indictments against these idiots. And I would certainly be standing with our armed forces. As a veteran myself, I've taken an oath and allegiance to the Constitution. I know and can smell a rat when I see one. You just played about 12 of them there. However many Democrats were given this disobeyed junk, they were given just a moment ago.

[Steve Guerrero]

All right, Don, people listening to you and like what you have to say, how can they find you?

[Don Brown]

Piece of cake. Brown4nc.com that's brown f o r n c.com Please come on board. Chip in a few bucks. Write us. We'll write you back. And look forward to interacting with fellow North Carolinians and folks from all over the nation.

[Steve Guerrero]

Don, thank you so much for being here.

[Don Brown]

Thank you, Steve. Look forward to seeing you again soon.

[Steve Guerrero]

As the potential senator for North Carolina just pointed out, freedom has never been free. And lately we've been reminded of just how high the cost can be. Growing violence is meant to shake us, but it should only strengthen our resolve never to back down. And that's why Patriot Mobile exists. For more than 12 years, they've been defending faith, family and freedom while providing the same or better premium network access on all three major U.S. networks. Unlimited data, mobile hotspots, international roaming, they do it all. When you switch, you don't sacrifice quality or service. Hundreds of thousands have joined the movement by switching their cell service to Patriot Mobile. Now every time they pay their bill, they're supporting the First Amendment, the Second Amendment, the, the sanctity of life, and our veterans and first responders. Switching is easy. It really is. Keep your number or keep your phone. You can upgrade if you'd like. Their 100% US based customer service team can activate you in minutes on the phone. Call 972-patriot or visit patriotmobile.com rav today. When you use the promo code RAV, you'll get a free month of service. That's patriotmobile.com rav or call 972 Patriot. Make the switch today after the break. The Department of Justice has launched an investigation into UC Berkeley for riots outside a Turning Point USA event recently. I'll bring on a former prosecutor to break it down for us straight ahead. Welcome back to America's Voice live. Tensions flared at the University of California, Berkeley happened Monday as Turning Point USA held the final stop. This is the Turning Point Tour. Outside Zellerbach hall, left wing agitators swarmed the area, forcing attendees to push through a hostile, sometimes violent crowd just to enter and exit safely. It was remarkably bad. Police worked to hold back the mob as actor Rob Schneider and Christian author Frank Turek, a mentor to the Turning Points late founder Charlie Kirk, spoke inside. In response to the chaos, the Department of Justice has now launched an investigation and is demanding the university preserve all records related to campus security and event preparation. Join me to discuss. This is former prosecutor and CEO of the alliance for IOR Accountability, Chuck Flint. I think I got that a little messed up there, Chuck, but what is the alliance you work for?

[Chuck Flint]

Alliance for IRS Accountability.

[Steve Guerrero]

There it is. IRS accountability. Okay. Greatly appreciate that. All right, so tell me about this event. Turning Point USA has been the target of so much vile hatred, direct death threats, and so much more. Can people not speak freely in this country without taking life and limb in their own hands?

[Chuck Flint]

Well, there are people out there that don't want that. Antifa is one of them and they're the group that was causing all the violence at Berkeley. Now, of course, Antifa is a loosely affiliated kind of organization. Where they're really backed is by these nonprofits, these 501c3 left wing nonprofits. And one of them that was present at Berkeley was a group called By Any Means Necessary. And they were distributing flyers of Charlie Kirk being shot with his picture. They were encouraging people to, to go ahead, you know, for the removal of President Trump. They were calling people fascists. So they were really stirring the pot. And they provide support to Antifa. And doj, as you mentioned, is they are cracking down. They've started investigation not just there, but in other places.

[Steve Guerrero]

Yeah, it is remarkable. Where do we go from here on this? Well, I mean, what is the next step.

[Chuck Flint]

Steve? I think it's good the DOJ is cracking down, but something needs to be done now. And what can be done now is if the irs, because these are nonprofit tax exempt groups that are funneling money into Antifa, and that is helping to go ahead and push these activities. If you want to stop Antifa, just cut off the money train. Strip these groups of their tax exempt status and Antifa won't be able to do anything. And so the IRS should be the tip of the spear. Strip these left wing nonprofits of their tax exempt status. They're clearly breaking the law. Dismantle the organizational web that they've developed. And I think that that will have a much more acute immediate impact, which is what we need to stop this violence. And the DOJ still has a role, but the IRS can do this very quickly and we don't have time to wait. It's got to be now. It's not next week, it's not next month. It's gotta happen now.

[Steve Guerrero]

Yeah, I can imagine the Democrats would go crazy if you tried to hold these people accountable. But you have to. I mean, I do remember the IRS targeting conservative groups and wouldn't even give them nonprofit status. I mean, that was a standard play a few years ago. I mean, Lois Lerner comes to mind. Right. So look, it's time to hold people accountable in this country. It's what the people that voted for Donald Trump, many are impatient about. They want more people held accountable at a much faster rate, don't they?

[Chuck Flint]

They do. And Steve, you make a good point. What happened during the Tea Party scandal was actual targeting. Those groups did nothing wrong. They simply got denied tax exempt status because of their name. But what you have here is nonprofit organizations on the left that are engaged in clear criminal activity. And the IRS has just been looking the other way for a long time. But that does not mean that they don't have the authority, nor that they shouldn't go ahead and strip their tax exempt status and use the authority that they have. We cannot let this go on.

[Steve Guerrero]

Yeah, we can't. Because it can be funded. The rental riot. Look, these people get paid to be there. A number of them. We know that. We figured that out along the way. So your rental riot shows up, creates chaos, puts people in danger, and too often the police departments and the places that these things are going on look the other way. I just saw it happen in Dearborn, Michigan on Tuesday. So I'll give you the last word. We need to be more forceful and allowing. Free speech. That's the cornerstone of America. We need to defend it. Last word to you.

[Chuck Flint]

Right, but free speech, as you know, doesn't mean going up and attacking people that are trying to make a point open. But we've also seen this not just with Antifa, but look at what CAIR has been doing. They've been funding all these anti Israel protests that have been violent on college campuses. Tens of thousands of dollars that they've been pouring into it. They need to look at CAIR as.

[Steve Guerrero]

Well and the Muslim Brotherhood for consideration as a terrorist organization. I agree with that. Greatly appreciate you being here, Chuck.

[Chuck Flint]

Thanks, Steve.

[Steve Guerrero]

Don't go anywhere. America's Voice Live will continue after a brief break where I'll discuss gold and the convoluted web in regard to job numbers. Details on all of it coming up. Today, we're bringing you an important update on a story we covered last week, one with massive implications for American health care. Small manufacturers and millions of patients who rely on advanced wound care treatments. Over the past several days, new information has emerged that paints an even clearer and more alarming picture of what's happening inside the Centers for Medicine and Medicaid Services. CMS this isn't just paperwork, bureaucracy or a policy tweak. This a deliberate move by powerful insiders that could force dozens of American companies close their doors while handing a few select companies favored plans from the government with enormous financial advantage. This affects American workers, innovation and patient care nationwide. And today we're going to lay out exactly how a federal agency is picking winners and losers in real time. Here's the full report. Imagine you own a business now. Imagine the government comes in without ever talking to you and puts a cap on how much you can charge to sell your product. You try to explain to them that you can't sell it for that price you'd have to cut employees, you'd be taking on heavy losses. Your company might not be able to survive, but they don't care. They won't even take your calls. Then at the same time, imagine the government goes across the street to your competitor and tells them they get to sell their product for over 16 times the price that you can. And not only that, the government will guarantee that your competitor has millions of customers by locking an entire part of the US Population into a system where they have no other option. It sounds insane. It sounds un American. It sounds like a violation of the principles of freedom and free markets that have made this nation great. But that's exactly what's happening right now in the medical industry under corrupt bureaucrats at the center for Medicare and Medicaid Services. Like I said, CMS. On October 31st, former healthcare lobbyists who now work at CMS issued a new rule on allografts, skin substitutes that cover chronic wounds and promote healing. It's important. These are valuable products for people with diabetes, bed sores and other chronic wounds that can cause extreme pain. CMS said it would establish a single flat rate of $127.28 for the vast majority of allographs with that's no matter how large or ineffective and how they innovate they are. They created this price scheme based on the smallest possible graph size and without ever Discussing the pricing with the American manufacturers who create these products by the way in the first place. Arbitrary, restrictive price controls would be bad enough on their own. And they are. These government imposed price caps would force Most of the 50American skin of substitute makers out there and put them out of business, putting American workers in the unemployment line while leaving only the cheapest and lowest quality products on the market. But they didn't stop there. CMS then gave a special deal to an extremely small select number of companies. Instead of getting $127 for their grass, these companies would be getting much higher rates. How much higher? Omay is a complete matrix. A skin substitute company with the partners with the medical distributor Advanced Solution got the king of all the sweetheart deals with a reimbursement rate of not $200, not $500, not even $1,000, but over $2,000, 16 times what the government allows other manufacturers to charge. Advanced Solution pushed for special status for its clients and their lobbyist insider friends gave them exactly what they were looking for. This is crony capitalism at its worst. As we speak, CMS is creating an unequal playing field and giving loopholes to well connected insiders over their smaller innovative competitors. In effect, the government is subsidizing favored companies while picking winners and losers, leaving the health care system to pay a premium for government favored products even if they aren't what's best for a patient. What's ironic about all of this is that CMS said they were changing the pricing scheme as a way to cut costs. But how can the government cut costs when creating elephant sized carve outs for select companies to sell at astronomically high prices? Carve outs that will blow a hole in the health care budget. How? You can try asking CMS why certain companies get the gold star treatment while others get run out of business. But it won't help. The CMS won't talk to people in the industry about it, won't respond to congressional oversight, and hasn't said what smaller companies must do to access this premium reimbursement rate. In fact, CMS imposed a one size fits all price regime without even asking suppliers how much their products cost in the first place. Can you imagine? The entire process is arbitrary, opaque and punitive. Something that looks more like the corrupt socialism of Latin America than the free market system of the United States. Hard to imagine President Trump, Health and Human Services Secretary RFK junior Or CMS Administrator Mehmet Oz supporting this crooked scheme. In fact, earlier this year in a true social post, President Trump said he would clean up the original mess around skin substitutes caused by Joe Biden saying that a Biden era rule to impose price caps would be dead in the water. Not on my watch were his exact words. Yet here we are with CMS bureaucrats resurrecting Biden era price controls while adding in some crony capitalist carve outs. President Trump and his administration should clean up this mess. Make it clear that CMS bureaucrats aren't there to pay off their friends. They are there to help patients. Because at the end of the day, the American people deserve a health care system that puts patience over politics, innovation over insiders, and workers over the Washington swamp. If there's one thing we know for sure, it's that the America first movement will never stop fighting to drain this kind of corruption out of our government and restore fairness, transparency and accountability. This is exactly why we fight and exactly why the MAGA movement isn't going anywhere. We'll keep an eye on it for you as we go forward. We'll keep an eye on Bowling too. He's joining me now. I'm a little bit late bowling, but I had to get that in. I do want to get a new show premiering right here on Real America's Voice this weekend, the Right news show and Espanol hosted by Javeri Negri. It'll be premiering this Sunday at 8 o'.

[Sean Duffy]

Clock.

[Steve Guerrero]

Be sure to tune in again. That's this Sunday at 8. And now after a bit of a delay, is my hero, Eric Bowling. There he is, folks.

[Eric Bowling]

I like that, that little, that summary of cms, Steve, that was, that was actually spot on. Really is a big issue going on. We have Ron Johnson center coming out. We're going to talk about the health care crisis that's happening as we speak right now. Fantastic piece you just put on the, on the air there. Appreciate that. That was good. What, did we lose them? Do we lose Groover? We lost Group. He seems to throw at us early. Oh, okay. We'll take it. We'll take it. By the way, guess What? We got 30 seconds before the market closed. I will tell you, the market's still trading right now down. Very strange day today, folks. That was up 700 this morning. 700. Remember I told you about Nvidia, came out last night, blew out the earnings look like it's, it's a $4 trillion company. It's going to be blowing the doors off numbers going forward. Dow goes from 700 higher to 400 lower in the same day. Very, very strange activity going on the markets. It's tough, that. Look at the Nasdaq.

[Steve Guerrero]

Look at the this is an I Heart podcast.