AMERICA'S VOICE LIVE WITH STEVE GRUBER - OCTOBER 13TH, 2025

Summary

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America's Voice Live with Steve Gruber

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Episode Date: October 13, 2025

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Overview

This episode of America's Voice Live, hosted by Steve Gruber, centers on what the show touts as a “historic” day: President Trump’s successful brokering of a peace deal between Israel and Hamas. The episode features in-depth analysis and reactions from key guests, including retired Army Colonel Derek Harvey and former Congressman Lieutenant Colonel Allen West. The host also covers ongoing domestic stories like the federal government shutdown and rising concerns over antisemitism, wrapping up with a health segment on microplastics.

The tone is direct, nationalist, and unapologetically pro-Trump, blending news, commentary, and boosterism for the former president’s foreign policy approach.

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Key Discussion Points & Segment Breakdowns

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1. Historic Israel-Hamas Peace Deal

[02:29–15:48; 19:16–25:40]

Theme:
Steve Gruber opens by framing Trump’s new peace agreement as a world-changing accomplishment—ending the current war, liberating hostages, and renewing the Abraham Accords.

Details:

• Trump personally visited Israel and Egypt to oversee the ceasefire and the release of the remaining hostages.
• A "20-point peace plan" forms the foundation of the agreement, envisioning troop withdrawals and normalized relations between Israel and longtime Arab rivals.

Key Insights:

• Foundations in the Abraham Accords:
  Gruber credits the 2017–2020 diplomatic efforts (Abraham Accords) for making this moment possible (06:17).

• Trump’s Diplomatic Approach:
  Colonel Derek Harvey emphasizes Trump’s hands-on, “juggernaut” foreign policy style (04:58), lauding his direct engagement and ability to force outcomes previously deemed impossible (05:48).

  "We would not have been here today except for the foundational work and the relationships built by President Trump in the first administration and over the last four years where he has stayed engaged and he has been a juggernaut, and his personal strength has really pushed this forward."
  — Colonel Derek Harvey [04:58]

• Challenges to Maintaining Peace:
  Both Gruber and Harvey caution that a real, lasting peace depends on disarming Hamas, preventing regional actors (like Qatar and Turkey) from supporting extremist groups, and sidestepping the United Nations, which they denounce as ineffective (08:25–11:56).

  "You're going to need a tenacious, strong, willpowered force to disarm and keep peace in Gaza as the first step."
  — Colonel Derek Harvey [09:26]

• UN Criticism:
  The UN is described as a failed institution that “has enabled terrorism" and harbored human rights abusers (10:49).

• Global Ramifications:
  The administration’s next focus is on expanding the Abraham Accords and using restored US credibility to counter challenges like China (14:56).

  “If we can redirect our focus from the Middle East to China...it will be a net positive.”
  — Colonel Derek Harvey [14:56]

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2. Reaction and Risks: Interview with Lt. Col. Allen West

[20:28–25:40]

Theme:
Col. West joins to contextualize the peace deal within broader regional dynamics and American foreign policy credibility.

Key Insights:

• Trump as Global Leader:
  West rebuffs prior descriptions of Trump as isolationist, depicting him instead as a restorer of American “relevance” and “power.” (20:45)

  "You see him consistently engaging with the world and coming back with these big foreign policy diplomatic wins."
  — Lt. Col. Allen West [20:45]

• Skepticism about Lasting Peace:
  West notes that while the plan is promising, the deep-rooted presence of multiple terrorist groups in Gaza (beyond just Hamas) poses ongoing risk.

• Iran and Qatar as Spoilers:
  He highlights Iran’s continued regional meddling (23:08), but also warns about Qatar’s duplicitous role—suggesting US caution and a “conditions-based approach” to alliances. (24:44)

  "We don't need to give them everything up front and we need to see what happens in the next 30, 60, 90 days, 120 days as far as what's going on with Qatar..."
  — Lt. Col. Allen West [24:44]

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3. The Federal Government Shutdown

[29:13–34:06]

Theme:
Gruber addresses the ongoing government funding deadlock (framed pejoratively as the “Schumer shutdown”).

Key Points:

• 800,000 federal workers furloughed; Democratic leaders blamed for intransigence.
• Trump administration highlighted for finding funds to keep military and essential services running (29:13).
• Gruber draws a comparison between claims of “weaponized justice” from both sides of the political divide (29:54).

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4. Antisemitism After October 7

[37:11–45:24]

Theme:
In the wake of the October 7 attacks, Gruber examines rising antisemitism in America, especially on college campuses.

Key Insights:

• ADL Polling:
  14% of American Jews report verbal abuse; 41% say they’ve received online abuse (37:11).

• Guest Jim Pfaff’s Perspective:
  Connecting campus activism and “pro-Palestine” protests to broader left-wing agitation (38:28); he condemns both left and right fringe elements for fomenting anti-Jewish rhetoric.

  “There is a funded and directed effort on the left to create chaos in this country ... But the real problem is the so-called pro-Palestine movement ... It is entirely a political effort, not designed to stop a genocide, but really to actually potentially create one.” — Jim Pfaff [38:28]

• Criticism from the Right:
  Both host and guest express concern over nationalist and MAGA-aligned voices criticizing Israel or Trump over Gaza, labeling such positions as “absurd” and “anti-Semitic” (40:21–42:24).

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5. Microplastics and Public Health

[48:47–54:21]

Theme:
A turn to environmental health concerns—Gruber interviews Dr. James Thorpe about the ubiquity and risks of microplastic contamination in food, water, and air.

Key Insights:

• Alarm Over Microplastic Exposure:
  Americans may ingest up to 121,000 plastic particles annually (49:51–50:29).
• Potential Health Effects:
  Possible links to cancer, inflammation, hormone disruption, and even fetal development issues are discussed (52:03).
• New Consumer Solutions:
  Dr. Thorpe introduces a “PLAS detox” product containing natural binders like lycopene and chlorella to help the body eliminate microplastics (53:28).
• Ongoing Uncertainty:
  While no definitive causal links to disease are claimed, Dr. Thorpe urges caution and further research.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “America is back, that it has credible, engaged leadership and that matters.”
  — Colonel Derek Harvey [14:56]
• “You see him [Trump] consistently engaging with the world and coming back with these big foreign policy diplomatic wins.”
  — Lt. Col. Allen West [20:45]
• “We don't need to give them everything up front and we need to see what happens in the next 30, 60, 90 days, 120 days as far as what's going on with Qatar…”
  — Lt. Col. Allen West [24:44]
• “There is a funded and directed effort on the left to create chaos in this country … But the real problem is the so-called pro-Palestine movement ... It is entirely a political effort, not designed to stop a genocide, but really to actually potentially create one.”
  — Jim Pfaff [38:28]
• "Plastics have been observed to be in plaque in the arteries. ... They're also found in the placenta ..."
  — Dr. James Thorpe [52:03–52:41]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Subject/Guest | |--------------------|----------------------------------------------------| | 02:29–04:47 | Show open, context on Israel-Hamas peace deal | | 04:47–15:48 | Interview: Colonel Derek Harvey (diplomacy analysis)| | 19:16–25:40 | Interview: Lt. Col. Allen West (peace deal risks, Iran, Qatar)| | 29:13–34:06 | Federal shutdown, China tariffs, campaign news | | 37:11–45:24 | Antisemitism in U.S., interview: Jim Pfaff | | 48:47–54:21 | Microplastics & health, interview: Dr. James Thorpe |

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Final Thoughts and Takeaways

This episode delivers a strongly conservative, pro-Trump analysis of major international and domestic stories, with a particular focus on the Israel-Hamas peace deal as a crowning achievement for American (and specifically Trumpian) diplomacy. Guests reinforce the notion of U.S. strength and necessity to bypass ineffective international institutions like the U.N., while warning that skepticism and vigilance remain necessary in dealing with actors like Iran and Qatar. Domestically, concerns about antisemitism, the politicization of justice, and environmental health fill out an episode dense with both policy and opinion.

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Live. Breaking news right now here on Real America's Unfiltered. These people are domestic terrorists and unapologetic we're here to take a stand for God and country. Does feel good. America's Voice Live starts now. Welcome to America's Voice Live. I'm Steve Gura. It is Monday, the 13th of October in the year of our Lord 2025. Let's get today's top stories. Thank you for being here. President Trump has once again made history, this time by brokering a peace deal between Israel and Hamas. The remaining hostages release earlier today in the deal, Phase one has been officially signed. I'll discuss that in detail coming up. Also, the Shuber shutdown, nearing two full weeks since taking effect, all because the Democrats aren't getting their way. And while the Democrats hold the American government hostage, the Trump administration working hard to find ways to make sure our troops get paid and others as well. More on that than later. Anti Semitism has seemingly been on the rise in recent years. No doubt that the October 7 attacks in large part responsible for that. There is no doubt that our Jewish friends are being attacked just for being Jewish. We time we address that as well. All that and more coming up. For now, I want to circle back to what we're seeing in the Middle East. It is historic, no question. It is an historic day. President Trump was in Israel earlier. If you were here on Real America's Voice, you saw it all. Beginning at 2 o' clock this morning, he is overseeing the end of the war in Gaza and to help greet the 20 remaining living hostages held by Hamas. Not only that, President Trump then went to Egypt to watch the signing of phase one of the 20 point peace plan that both Israel and Hamas agreed to, a plan that will also see the withdrawal of troops from Israel and Gaza to a predetermined line. And now that Israel and Hamas have agreed to a ceasefire and a hostage deal, the White House is shifting focus to its next diplomatic goal, expanding the landmark Abraham Accords, which normalized relations between Israel and several Arab states during President Trump's first term. His bold foreign policy delivered historic peace through these accords, bringing Arab states in a normalized relations with the nation of Israel, a breakthrough the establishment said for years, for decades was impossible. Hear me. To discuss this further, as a former special assistant to President Trump, retired Army Colonel Derek Harvey. Colonel, nice to see you.

[Colonel Derek Harvey]

Great to be here.

[Steve Gura]

Steve, let's just start with this. Your impressions of this day thus far. You watched much of it. I know you were sitting there watching it with the rest of us. What are your impressions?

[Colonel Derek Harvey]

Well, we would not have been here today except for the foundational work and the relationships built by President Trump in the first administration and over the last four years where he has stayed engaged and he has been a joggernaut, and his personal strength has really pushed this forward. Direct engagement, making the calls, sending Jared. It's a great day that we got the hostages back. It's really unfortunate that we had to have this day, that there was an October 7th, and that Hamas had started the war and taken so many hostages, butchered so many people, and created so much devastation around the region. But here we are. And the next steps are going to be really, really difficult. And I could address that if you want. Steve.

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Yeah, let me. Let me just stop for one second, because I want to go back to Donald Trump's first administration when he put together these Abraham Accords deals with the uae, Bahrain, Morocco and Sudan, all establishing normalized relationships with Israel. That was the first major step, something that we were told couldn't be done then as well. It all happened in the late summer and fall of 2020. This is building on that success. I mean, that was the first key component, correct?

[Colonel Derek Harvey]

It was. But the beginning of the Abraham Accords started in February and March of 2017, when Jared Kushner and some others on the national security staff engaged with the president. And then in March, we had an engagement with the Palestinian authorities leader, Abbas, who came to the United States. And after that meeting, it was very clear that this approach of making a deal with the Palestinian Authority was out of reach because they were just not going to do anything to bring peace. So that's where it solidified the President's idea, which was, we're not going to do what had been done for 50 years, try to deal with the Palestinian Authority. We're going to work to create an environment for peace, put pressure on them, and deal from the outside in Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, as major engines of this. But although Saudi Arabia didn't sign on, they were very positive about the effort. And here we are today. The work began, really, in February and March of 2017.

[Steve Gura]

Yeah. So here we are building upon that now and again. It began early 2017 in the first term. It was rekindled here in the second term with a war that had begun during Joe Biden's administration. Many people thought, well, Donald Trump can't get this done. And yet here we are seeing these hostages released, the ones that are alive. Terribly sad that many came home in caskets that are now in a motorcade, if you will. Coming back, the real question a lot of people keep asking, can the peace be maintained Colonel, and that's a question for a lot of us. We've watched this our entire lives. There'll be a war, then that will settle down. Then there'll be a war, then it will settle down. Are we finally at a breakthrough point with the Abraham Accords, with what the President has done here today? And look, he is being praised by world leaders. He's being praised on msnbc and by Democrats, remarkably today, who cannot help but admit the truth. This is a huge deal, but can we maintain the peace?

[Colonel Derek Harvey]

We have a road forward for peace. The pressure on Qatar and on Turkey not to reengage in supporting Hamas and its virulent, hateful ideology and its desire to eradicate the Israeli state and the Jewish people, that engagement with those countries is going to be incredibly important. And keeping the United nations from trying to continue and foster refugee status. Recognize that Gaza can be a state, but the United nations cannot enable it to build tunnels and rearm and use the wealth of the United nations and donations to make it a terrorist state rather than a great place on the Mediterranean for, for tourism and for life to go on in a modern way. That's part one. Part two is whoever's going to be providing security has to disarm Hamas and there has to be a denazification like program there. And I'm afraid that what I've seen in Iraq, in Afghanistan, with United nations in so many places around the world, that you're going to need a tenacious, strong, willpowered force to disarm and keep peace in Gaza as the first step. In the Arab states, whether it's Jordan, Egypt, Qatar, United Arab Emirates, they're not up to the task, in my view. And neither are the Brits or the French or the Italians or others, because they were not willing to do what was needed in either Iraq or Afghanistan or, or even in other United nations deployments. So that's going to be the long pole in the tent, in my judgment.

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Yeah. You know, in, in fair review, the United nations are created to do exactly two things in my estimation. Primary things, stop war and prevent genocide. The organization has been a miserable failure since 19, since the 1940s. And either of those, the United nations has not stopped a single war that I'm aware of, not stopped a single genocide. The United nations involvement is usually detrimental to the outcome to a country or to a region. Derek, when I speak to these people, they think the United nations is a failure. Your thoughts?

[Colonel Derek Harvey]

Well, it has been a failure. Not just for that, but the fact that it has enabled terrorism. It has protected some of the worst violators of human rights. And they put countries like Sudan, for example, or under Muammar Gaddafi, Libya and others on the United nations human rights committees. And given China, a major violator of human rights and international protocols, such a large role. So you can't really look to the United Nations. You have to work around them. And I think that's what President Trump is going to have to do.

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Does the United nations have any value going forward? It's a serious question, Colonel, the amount of money that is pumped through the United Nations. And again, it fails at preventing war, it fails at preventing genocide, it fails at preventing death on this planet. That's the mission of the entire United Nations. That was the vision and it has been a complete failure. Is it time to move on, to move past the United Nations? Obviously they can't do it. The Americans did. Where do we go from here?

[Colonel Derek Harvey]

Well, it's a very difficult question about how to move forward, but you have to sidestep and move in another direction. Maybe work with different organizations and be willing to be engaged and resource those with partners who actually want to do the similar, similar things. I think the President sees a international opportunity in the Middle east region for a new way forward and he's building a coalition of like minded and it's going to be his leadership and I think bringing other people along that see the opportunity and the benefits in bringing their countries into this that is going to make the difference. This is a sidestep of the United nations in a way. And it's going to have to also at some point bypass the United nations role in providing particularly UNWA support to Gaza and in other areas in Lebanon and the like because they have just not delivered. We have an opportunity and I think the President and his team see this as a chance and I think Mohammed bin Salman and MBZ and the United Emirates see it too.

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That leaves one major conflict still to be dealt with. Not the genocides going on in Africa which need to be dealt with as well, but the Ukraine war still stands out as the one place Donald Trump has not been able to make traction the way he would like. Does this give him any momentum there or are they completely unrelated?

[Colonel Derek Harvey]

Although they are unrelated, it, it gives you an idea of the President's approach. And just because we have not made significant gains since the Anchorage summit, the President and his team remain engaged and it provides momentum and international momentum does matter. The war with Putin is in transigent stage. Not sure how we break out of it, but the President just because you don't have immediate success in Anchorage or with other engagements we've had. We're only nine and a half months into this administration and we do not have an auto pen president sitting back unable to engage. And that's the difference right now. And the international community seems to be swinging behind President Trump. Look, you had Macron there, you had Starmer there. You had such a, you know, a large of European and Arab leaders, you know, from Indonesia, et cetera. So there is an opportunity. The president is changing the dynamic through the power and force of his will alone.

[Steve Gura]

Yeah. Last word on this. As we reflect on this historic day. Again, coverage began here on Real America's Voice, 2:00 this morning. We've been covering it straight through ever since. How important is this for the United States on the world stage? How important is this for Donald Trump as he continues to broker deals, whether it's for trade or for peace or to put America first going forward?

[Colonel Derek Harvey]

Well, I think it just reinforces the image that America is back, that it has credible, engaged leadership and that matters. And if you do have success in the Middle east region, that will importantly allow the United States to refocus its energy, its intellectual and its resources to the most consequential geostrategic threat that we have, which is China. And that is an important element. If we can redirect our focus from the Middle east to China and not be bogged down in the Middle east region like we have been for several decades, it will be a net positive.

[Steve Gura]

A net positive. What a remarkable day. Makes me proud to be an American Colonel. We're getting things done. America is doing big things. Again, incredibly important. Sir, as always, thank you for your perspective.

[Colonel Derek Harvey]

Absolutely. Thank you.

[Steve Gura]

All right. Coming up after the break, I'll continue this discussion of the peace deal in the Middle east as well as the Abraham Accords, the hopeful expansion, my good friend and former congressman, Lieutenant Colonel Allen West. Up next on America's Voice Live.

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Have been discussing and is this focus today of this historic day. President Trump once again making history by brokering the peace deal between Israel and Hamas. A 20 point deal currently in phase one. The remaining hostages released early this morning. Good news there, seven at once, then 13 more. This deal does not only affect the relationship between Israel and Hamas, but also with Israel and other Arab states throughout the region. As I said earlier, President Trump implemented the Abraham Accords in the last year of his first term. Now he is back and sealing the deal to ensure peace in the Middle east for as far as he can see. However, one concern that has many people worried is that of Iran, a country that denied their invitation to the signing of the deal in Egypt. They said, no, thank you. Earlier this year, President Trump issued an airstrike on an Iranian nuclear facility, as you know, after multiple failed attempts to get them to come to the negotiating table in regards to nuclear facilities. So the question today, should we be concerned with Iran amid these peace negotiations, the expansion of the Abraham Accords and everything else? Here with me to discuss this, former congressman and Executive Director of the American Constitutional Rights Union, Lieutenant Colonel Allen West. Colonel, nice to see you again.

[Lieutenant Colonel Allen West]

Always a pleasure to be with you. Thank you, Steve.

[Steve Gura]

First, as I asked, Colonel Harvey, let me ask you, what is your impression of this day? I know you've seen much of the coverage and the coverage leading up to it. It is a big day for President Trump, for the United States, for Israel, for the Middle east, maybe for the world. Your thoughts?

[Lieutenant Colonel Allen West]

No, all the above. But I think the most important thing is for all of those people that said Donald Trump was an isolationist and the America first policy meant America retracting from the world. You see him consistently engaging with the world and coming back with these big foreign policy diplomatic wins like what we just saw with the Israel, Hamas ending that conflict. We hope that for a long term, not just in the near term, but without a doubt this shows a restoration of American relevance, American power and American foreign policy strength. That's the most important thing that I think we see today.

[Steve Gura]

All right, and so what is the concerns I discussed just a moment ago? Can we hold the peace? We've had, you know, hopeful moments before the Camp David Accords, all the way back in 1979. We had, hopefully, we hope for peace then and there's been a lot of trouble since. Does this get it done? Is this different? I know that Donald Trump has used the economic leverage that he has in the United States to help push some of these deals through, as you know. Is this a more stable piece, at least from what you understand, of the 20 point plan we have to see?

[Lieutenant Colonel Allen West]

Because first of all, when you look at Gaza, it's not just about Hamas. They have not changed their charter. I don't think they will change their charter, which calls for the eradication of the modern day state of Israel and the murdering and killing of Jews worldwide. But you also have six or seven other Islamic terrorist organizations that operate there in the Gaza Strip. And we know that are they going to be a part of this peace agreement or not? So I think that's a long term concern. But the biggest thing that I think we must see that can make this different from the Oslo accords or anything that has happened previously, will finally the countries, the Muslim nations, the Arab nations in the Middle east say we are turning our backs on Islamic jihadism and terrorism and Islamo fascism? Will they finally stand up and say, we're going to make sure that you, you know, being at al Qaeda, being at isis, being at Hezbollah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, al Quz, al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade, the entire panoply of those groups, will they ensure that they never have enough oxygen to survive and will they go in and take a protectorate status in the Gaza Strip and make sure that they eradicate that threat?

[Steve Gura]

All right, so about the wild card of Iran, obviously they don't play nicely. Other kids in the sandbox, fair to say they're not respected or well liked by any of the countries in the Middle east that I'm aware of. They are a volatile and dangerous regime. And if they continue to meddle, what do you think the reaction might be from some of those Arab neighbors?

[Lieutenant Colonel Allen West]

Well, I think first and foremost, Iran has lost a lot of relevance because of the actions of Israel and of course, the United States of America. And I believe that you will see a lot of these other Gulf cooperation countries, cooperation Council countries who are Sunni, stand up and say no, if Iran steps out of line again, we'll let the Israelis and the Americans do exactly what they did previously because we don't want to see that threat. We know that Iran is, they're behind the Houthis. They're in Yemen. And the Houthis in Yemen have been firing rockets into Saudi Arabia. So I think, yes, without a doubt, you see Donald Trump trying to build a coalition of these countries. But I have to tell you, the country that is the second greatest sponsor of Islamic terrorism after Iran is Qatar. And so hopefully they are going to change their tune as well.

[Steve Gura]

Well, and that brings me to this question. We've aligned ourselves closely in this regard with that nation of Qatar. They were at the table during the conversations in Egypt that finally brought this process to a signing. Did we make a deal with the devil?

[Lieutenant Colonel Allen West]

I think we may be. I know that we saw Secretary of War Hegseth signed an agreement to allow the Qataris to have an air base out in Idaho or a facility whereby their pilots can be trained. I think we need to have a conditions based approach with Qatar. We don't need to give them everything up front and we need to see what happens in the next 30, 60, 90 days, 120 days as far as what's going on with Qatar, just the same as we need to make sure we have that conditions based relationship with the new Syrian president because we still see Christians being slaughtered and their villages being burned there in Syria. So I think it's very important that we offer the carrot, but we have the stick ready.

[Steve Gura]

Yeah. And we have no accountability for those atrocities in Syria that you just outlined. Talk about genocide. There it is by definition. We'll keep an eye on that one, too. Lt. Col. Allen west, always a pleasure, my friend.

[Lieutenant Colonel Allen West]

My pleasure. God bless. Take care, Steve.

[Steve Gura]

God bless you, Colonel. Up after the break, the Schumer shutdown nearing two full weeks now since taking effect. And as the Democrats continue to hold the US Government hostage, President Trump and his administration are ensuring that American soldiers get paid and others get fed. Details straight ahead.

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[Leon Neyfak]

When I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked why Benghazi.

[Jim Pfaff]

The truth became a web of lies.

[Leon Neyfak]

It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.

[Steve Gura]

Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?

[Leon Neyfak]

Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit.

[Steve Gura]

We kill the ambassador just to cover something up. You put two and two together.

[Leon Neyfak]

Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?

[Steve Gura]

Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything.

[Ben Ferguson]

That'S been going on for the last 20 years.

[Leon Neyfak]

I'm Leon Naifak from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries. This is Fiasco Benghazi.

[Steve Gura]

What difference at this point does it make?

[Dr. James Thorpe]

Yeah, that's right. Lock her up.

[Leon Neyfak]

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[Steve Gura]

Well, the ongoing federal government shutdown now in day 13. The Senate on recess until Monday the 20th, a week from today. And 800,000 federal workers are currently furloughed. President Trump has found the funding to keep essential services open and to pay our military. But Democrats keep blaming Republicans. Senator Chuck Schumer went on MSNBC over the weekend defending federal prosecutors for not charging New York Attorney General Letitia James, saying the Justice Department shouldn't be used as a political weapon. Yet his party is using Congress exactly that way. Here's what he said. They use the prosecutorial department as a political weapon.

[Jim Pfaff]

It is a disgrace.

[Steve Gura]

And every American, I don't care if you're Democrat, Republican, liberal, conservative, moderate people should be forcefully rising up against this. Yeah, he's. He's quite something. This is a perfect example of the two tiered political system. The DOJ can't be politicized, can Congress? Apparently, according to Chuck Schumer, it can. President Trump has been warning about China's unfair trade practices for years in advocating for decoupling since the 1980s, stating in his post on X back in 2013 that nobody wanted to listen. He responded this weekend to China's new attempt to decapitate export control on rare earth elements. With a 100% tariff hike on Chinese imports, effective November 1, this brings China's tariff rate to 130%. China controls 70% of global rare earth mining and 90% of processing crucial for F35s, iPhones, Teslas and defense systems and poses a national security threat. Trump's tariffs aim to force Beijing to reconsider its economic coercion, exposing China's long standing trade violations. The President is urging US Allies to block cheap Chinese imports, protect supply chains for critical defense and technology materials and ensure long term U.S. economic and national security independence. Experts have stressed decoupling from China's rare earth grip is vital. It's essential. It's mission critical for public health, defense and for high tech as well. An explosive New York Post report has exposed socialist New York City mayoral frontrunner Zoran Mamdani's campaign for pocketing nearly $13,000 any illegal foreign donations. That includes 175 checks from overseas addresses, including one from his own mother in law in Dubai. Federal, state and city law strictly prohibit non US citizens from contributing. With violators facing hefty fines or possibly worse, Mamdani's team is clinging to $7,190 in non refunded payments. Mamdani has raised over $15 million, shockingly including nearly $13 million in taxpayer funded matching funds. He holds a commanding 46% in the polls with Andrew Cuomo at 33% but climbing. Republican Curtis Lewa at 15% has no chance and Eric Adams at 10. But he's dropped out of the race already. Although Mamdani faces only $13,000 in illegal contributions, it is enough to cause trouble highlighting Democrat double standards Rules for thee but not for me. Surprised me either. Buy gold and get free silver. That's right, for every $5,000 purchased from Burt's Gold Group this month in advance of Veterans Day they will send you a free patriotic silver round that commemorates the Gadsden and American flags. Look, Gold is up over 40% since the beginning of this year and Burchgold can help you own it by converting an existing IRA or 401k into a tax sheltered IRA and physical gold. Plus they'll send you free silver honoring our veterans on qualifying purchases. And if you're current or former military, Burch Gold has a special offer just for you. They're waiving custodial fees for the first year on investments of any amount. How about that with an A rating with a Better Business Bureau and tens of thousands of happy customers, many of which are my listeners and viewers. I encourage you to diversify your savings into Google. Text America to the number 989-898 for a free information kit and to claim your eligibility for free silver with qualifying purchases before the end of the month. Again, text America to 98. 98 98. Do it today. Oh, and by the way, look at that beautiful coin. That's one of them right there from Birch gould. You want one? Text America to 9,898 98 and you'll be well on your way. All right, coming up after the break, I'll discuss the October 7th attacks and how they relate to Jewish Americans who are often victims of anti Semitism. More on that coming up on avl.

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[Leon Neyfak]

When I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why Benghazi?

[Jim Pfaff]

The truth became a web of lies.

[Leon Neyfak]

It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.

[Steve Gura]

Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?

[Leon Neyfak]

Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit.

[Steve Gura]

We kill the ambassador just to cover something up. You put two and two together.

[Leon Neyfak]

Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?

[Steve Gura]

Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything.

[Ben Ferguson]

That'S been going on for the last 20 years.

[Leon Neyfak]

I'm Leon Naifak from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries. This is Fiasco Benghazi.

[Steve Gura]

What difference at this point does it make?

[Dr. James Thorpe]

Yeah, that's right. Lock her up.

[Leon Neyfak]

Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Steve Gura]

Antisemitism has been on the rise in recent years. There's no doubt that the October 7 attacks, in large part responsible for opening up that can of worms. The Anti Defamation League, or ADL for short, finally released results for polls conducted this summer in which participants were asked various questions about their experiences of being a Jew in America after the events of October 7th. One of the questions asked had to do with verbal abuse in which 14% of the participants recognized they had experienced some sort of verbal attack due to their Jewish identity. Things ramped up the digital world as 41% of participants stated that they got abuse online, such as social media and other forums. There is no doubt that our Jewish friends are being attacked just for, well, being Jewish. And while there are associations like the ADL to give voices to those affected, more can be done. Here with me to discuss is Conservative Caucus President Jim Pfaff. Jim, nice to see you today. This is a growing problem. It's become almost trendy. You know, you set up rent a riot on college campuses. You target Jewish people for being Jewish. You make them hold up in libraries. You've normalized violence against Jews because of what's gone on in Israel. Thank you for being here. What are your thoughts?

[Jim Pfaff]

Well, there's no doubt that this is really related almost directly, if not absolutely directly, to the same thing that's happening with the antifa riots in Portland stuff going on in Chicago. Our national field director, Chad Caton, is on the ground in Chicago right now dealing with that situation and helping expose what's going on? He was in Portland recently with my friend Nick Sorter there. There is a funded and directed effort on the left to create chaos in this country. It's interesting that the Portland thing has popped up recently. But the real problem is the pro, so called pro Palestine movement efforts that have been continually putting people in violent harm, particularly Jewish people, for two years now. And it is entirely a political effort, not designed, as they had said, to stop a genocide, but really to actually potentially create one because of this whole, you know, move Israel from the river to the sea attitude. Now they have nothing left to do. But I think you're going to still see this linger. I think it's a very big problem, particularly on college campuses and it has to be addressed directly.

[Steve Gura]

Yeah, I think that there is this element clearly in this country, Jim, who are not satisfied with what has happened. And in fact I heard some social media commentators, conservative commentators, allegedly blaming Donald Trump for a genocide in Gaza. I actually heard that over the weekend. I'll not repeat names, I don't think they deserve the publicity. But pretty shocking to me that people that pretend to be conservatives are celebrating the idea that Donald Trump led a genocide. How outrageous.

[Jim Pfaff]

You know the origin of that. I'm glad you said it because it was in my mind to bring in here there is a contingent of people, even in the MAGA movement, conservatives, people on the right, I guess you could say, who because of their concerns about going to war, have made what's going on in Gaza a cause celebree against, you know, against Jews. Because there's this, there has been this absurd idea that somehow Israel's running what happens in this country and there's no doubt there's influence. But they're our ally. We've been standing with them, and I think rightly so in the Middle East. And that doesn't make them perfect, doesn't make Benjamin Netanyahu perfect or any of them. But the real problem that we see, and I am going to continue to speak out against on the right, are people who have this anti Israel sentiment that is, is entirely an evil one. Yes, be critical. Nobody does things right. We don't do things right. But Israel is a legitimate democracy in the Middle East. It's been the only free country until some reforms are beginning to emerge in the Middle East. They've been the only place for freedom for people in that whole area. We are right to stand with them. And those on the right who want to eviscerate them I think is absolutely absurd. You know, we need. Israel needs to stay strong. Donald Trump has proven the methodology by which you do that without compromising reality and without, you know, going into a place of non criticism, which previous administrations have done to some degree. So I think we've set the stage here hopefully to stop this effort on the right. But it does exist, I count it anti Semitic and it, it can in some ways help support the violence that's happening on the left, which would be just an absurd alliance.

[Steve Gura]

Yeah. On the other side of that, to be fair, the adl, the Anti Defamation League is usually wildly left. Maybe they've decided to come back into the fold of clear and common sense thought. I mean, the ADL routinely attacks conservatives. They have for my adult life. Maybe it's time for them to reevaluate, take a look in the mirror as they say, and say, wait a second, who are we standing with? That might be a realignment that it'd be of value, don't you think?

[Jim Pfaff]

Don't expect that to come from the ADL at all. The Anti Defamation League has gone as radically woke left as the aclu, which was always a left to wing sort of organization, but back in its history actually did do a lot of good for civil rights. They've gone off the radical left deep end. I'm not going to put any trust in the Anti Defamation League coming around. That's not going to happen. But they do have to admit reality. They do claim to be against anti Semitism. So yes, when good things are happening, apparently right now they're willing to get on the right side, but they're going to run right back into it. And sadly there are some people on the right who may give them some reason to be critical again. But to throw that on all of us on the right here I think is absurd because it's mostly been the Republican Party, conservatives in general who have been the greatest friends of Israel and Democrats have left that, left that place a long time ago.

[Steve Gura]

Yeah, three, three organizations, the adl, the ACLU and the Southern Poverty Law center, all suspect for their wildly left leanings and always painting conservatives as somehow are the villain in all of this. Jim, I'll give you the last word.

[Jim Pfaff]

Yeah, I just want to reassert what Israel did. We're finding out or we're realizing now on the back end of everything that's happened. What Israel did to protect themselves after October 7th was in my opinion, almost entirely without blame. There are probably some areas where you could be critical, but I have to say this, it reasserts the reality that sovereign nations have a right to protect themselves when they are being assaulted by the, by others. And I would say that those on the right who are unwilling to be supportive of what Israel has done and not to see the positive outcome that came about it and see their part in it. Of course, this is Donald Trump's win, but without what Israel had done, we wouldn't have gotten to this piece either. So it's just a reassertion that peace or strength is an important agenda item for us to be to one of our presidents and one of our administrations. And we need to take the lessons and move forward with them from here.

[Steve Gura]

It's a foundational item. Jim, I would suggest. Thank you for being here today. Greatly appreciate your input.

[Jim Pfaff]

Thanks, Steve.

[Steve Gura]

All right. Don't go anywhere. America's Voice Live will continue after a moment.

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[Leon Neyfak]

When I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, 9 times out of 10 they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why Benghazi?

[Jim Pfaff]

The truth became a web of lies.

[Leon Neyfak]

It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.

[Steve Gura]

Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?

[Leon Neyfak]

Bad faith, political warfare and frankly, bullshit.

[Steve Gura]

We kill the ambassador just to cover something up. You put two and two together.

[Leon Neyfak]

Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?

[Steve Gura]

Benghazi is a Rosetta stone for everything.

[Ben Ferguson]

That'S been going on for the last 20 years.

[Leon Neyfak]

I'm Leon Neyfak from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries. This is Fiasco Benghazi.

[Steve Gura]

What difference at this point does it make?

[Dr. James Thorpe]

Yeah, that's right. Lock her up.

[Leon Neyfak]

Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Ben Ferguson]

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[Ted Cruz]

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[Ben Ferguson]

Nationwide, we have millions of listeners.

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[Ted Cruz]

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[Ben Ferguson]

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[Steve Gura]

All right, let's talk about your health, shall we? Microplastics may sound like a buzzword, but unfortunately, these devious tiny particles are just as real as you and me, and their detriments to your health are barely getting recognized. But it's coming to the forefront because the team at TWC recognizes microplastics as deterrence to one's health and is happy to help customers in addressing the health effects associated with them. We're going to talk to them about it. Here with me to discuss Chief of Maternal and Prenatal health for The Wellness Company, Dr. James Thorpe. Doctor, thank you for being here.

[Dr. James Thorpe]

Thanks for having me.

[Steve Gura]

Steve, let me go over a short list here where you find microplastics. These tiny little microscopic beads, toothpaste, laundry detergent, dishwashing soap. It collects in water, it collects in wildlife. If your fish are swimming in fresh water or the oceans, these things are collecting not just in their gut, but in their brains. You and me as well. Pollution's a real concern to me, far more concerning than climate change hysteria, I can tell you that. You guys are taking a deep look at it. Tell us about microplastics and how detrimental they really can be.

[Dr. James Thorpe]

Well, it's a real concern. There's a publication by Cox and colleagues just in 2019 noting that just ingestion of food and water alone, Steve, gives us anywhere from 39,000 to 52,000 micro particles of plastic per year. And this doesn't even include what we breathe or what we wear. If we add what we breathe, that may go up to about 130,000 products per year that the average.

[Steve Gura]

So hold on. Hold on right there. You're telling me these microplastics are small enough to be airborne?

[Dr. James Thorpe]

Yes. Not only airborne, but wearing clothes, synthetic clothes and jewelry can often can increase your toxicity as well. So this is a great concern.

[Steve Gura]

All right, I mentioned the brain, but it's also the blood, liver. Now you tell me the lungs. I mean, this is a problem. We saw a stagnant number which estimates that the average person consumes between 39,000 and 52,000 plastic particles each year through food and water and air, and up to 121,000 a total. It's just remarkable. That's terrible. These microplastics, where are they all coming from?

[Dr. James Thorpe]

Well, as you know, they're coming from things that we come in contact with, things that we wear. It's coming from plastics that we put water in that are contaminated in our water supply, our food, our air. So they're coming from many, many different sources.

[Steve Gura]

Yeah. It's unbelievable that people are focused on climate change when you have contaminants in our environment. And what impact do they have on children or adolescents or adults or elderly people? Because they probably have a different impact on different age brackets, I would guess. What medical conditions have been linked to the presence of microplastics in the body of people young and old?

[Dr. James Thorpe]

A lot associations, no proven causations yet, but certainly we're worried about inflammatory diseases, potentially autoimmune diseases, potentially cancers, potentially atherosclerotic disease. Plastics have been observed to be in plaque in the arteries. So this is something hormone disruption as well. They've also been found in the placenta as well, and maybe getting through to even the fetus and fetal development in the pregnant woman.

[Steve Gura]

You said no cause and effect, but as you sit here discussing this with me, I cannot help but ask, if it lodges in the brain, these microplastics, could it have impact on Alzheimer's or dementia? I mean, could it be associated?

[Dr. James Thorpe]

There could be an association there, but nothing is proven by for certain concrete causes and effects. But it's a great concern, no doubt. And this is exactly why we at the Wellness Company are taking this seriously and rolling out the PLAS detox.

[Steve Gura]

All right, tell us about this product because you have taken a step forward to remove these microplastics from my system and yours. What is it? How does it work?

[Dr. James Thorpe]

Yeah, there's. There's really, four components. And again, we don't claim a. It's not FDA approved. But these, this is a. These are natural substances. For example, calcium glucuronidate, lycopene, which is in many vegetables, also chlorella. These are substances which are known to bind and to detox substances and excrete them from your body.

[Steve Gura]

Hmm. Important stuff. Doctor, I think that these are the conversations that we have to be having. Environmental concerns, maybe Alzheimer's, maybe other diseases that become more prevalent during your lifetime in mind. Maybe there's a connection to all this plastic in the environment and those that we're ingesting. Thank you for being here.

[Dr. James Thorpe]

Thanks for having me, Steve.

[Steve Gura]

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