AMERICA'S VOICE LIVE WITH STEVE GRUBER - OCTOBER 28TH, 2025

Summary

Real America's Voice Live with Steve Gruber – October 28th, 2025

Main Theme

This episode centers on the ongoing U.S. government shutdown, presenting it as a Democrat-led crisis affecting federal workers and average Americans. Host Steve Gruber emphasizes repercussions such as missed paychecks, disruptions to public services, and political maneuvering, while celebrating Trump’s economic and foreign policy achievements. The episode also covers religious persecution in Nigeria, economic market updates, redistricting controversies, and personal stories highlighting American resilience.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Government Shutdown: Blame and Impact

• Framing the Shutdown: Gruber repeatedly labels the situation as the "Schumer shutdown", blaming Senate Democrats and emphasizing their refusal to pass a "clean continuing resolution" (CR).
• Speaker Mike Johnson Soundbite ([02:28]):
  • "They would rather shut the government down and impose all this pain on the American people because they believe the Marxists, the far left and the base are more active than hard working Americans..."
• Consequences Highlighted:
  • Over a million workers missing paychecks while Congress continues to get paid ([03:29]).
  • Disruptions to SNAP, WIC, FDA operations, airport delays, and military impacts ([03:29]-[07:13]).
  • Emotional stories from affected families, aired directly and through news snippets ([06:14]-[07:13]).
• Democratic Leaders Criticized:
  • Gruber and audio clips frame politicians like Chuck Schumer and Catherine Clark as callous, using the shutdown as "leverage" ([05:39]), with soundbites reinforcing this.

2. Workers' Stories and Charity Response

• Human Impact: Federal workers express despair over missed pay, resorting to food banks, picking up extra jobs, or missing important medical procedures ([06:14]-[08:55]).
  • "I would have never thought in a million years that I would have been in this position to have to go to a food bank." – Denise Blake ([08:42])
• Gruber lauds American charity and resilience for stepping in where government support falters ([07:13]).

3. Trump’s Foreign Policy and Economic Wins

• Trump’s Asia Tour: Praised for securing a $550 billion investment pledge from Japan and diversifying U.S. export markets ([01:08], [18:02]).
  • "Nobody does it better than President Trump. He truly knows how to make those deals and impactful deals for our country." – Rep. Julia Letlow ([18:36])
• Peace Deals: Highlighted for facilitating agreements between Cambodia and Thailand, positioning Trump as a “peace president” ([19:10]).

4. Congressional Interview: Rep. Julia Letlow ([15:17]–[22:41])

• On Government Pay: Letlow supports withholding congressional pay until the shutdown ends ([16:10]).
• On Shutdown Responsibility: Asserts blame rests on Senate Democrats and urges moderates to cross the aisle ([16:10]-[17:34]).
• On Redistricting: Discusses a pending Supreme Court case aiming to restrict redistricting based primarily on race, suggesting a likely Republican advantage if successful ([20:09]-[21:23]).
• On Border Security: Raises concerns about an illegal immigrant in Louisiana allegedly involved in the October 7th Hamas attack, questioning DHS oversight ([22:02]).
  • "How someone who was part of the October 7th attack... ended up in Louisiana is terrifying." – Rep. Julia Letlow ([22:02])

5. Market & Economy Update ([24:14]–[31:25])

• Market Records: US indexes hit all-time highs amid Trump’s trade breakthroughs ([24:14]).
• Expert Analysis – Anthony Esposito:
  • Explains market optimism, asset shifts from gold to equities, and predicts continued growth if trade deals and Fed rate cuts occur ([26:41]).
  • On gold: "6 to 12 month time period, I could see us up 20% from here up towards 5,000." – Anthony Esposito ([31:07])

6. Religious Persecution in Nigeria ([33:55]–[38:12])

• Crisis Highlighted: Focus on ongoing massacres of Christians by Fulani herdsmen, Boko Haram, and ISIS affiliates; claims 125,000 murdered ([33:55]-[35:07]).
  • “There are more people who were killed last year who were Christians in Nigeria, than were killed in Gaza...” – Dr. Jeff Myers ([35:07])
• Political Response: Senator Ted Cruz allegedly pushing for State Department to label Nigeria a “country of particular concern,” opening possibility for U.S. sanctions ([36:32]).
• UN Critique: Gruber dismisses UN efficacy, arguing U.S. leadership and sanctions are required ([36:00]-[37:15]).

7. Redistricting Controversy ([20:09]–[21:23])

• States pushing back against race-based district drawing, with anticipated Supreme Court ruling potentially realigning Congressional representation. Letlow predicts landmark change favoring Republicans.

8. Debt Relief Solutions ([39:37]–[44:30])

• Featured interview with Melanie Pcor from Iconic Debt Relief, discussing:
  • Average credit card debt, surging interest rates, and debt-related anxiety ([40:22]).
  • Iconic’s tailored approach: free consultations, verified relief programs, and a family-oriented philosophy ([41:18]-[42:56]).

9. American Resilience & Community Stories ([46:42]–[52:28])

• “America Wonderful” Segment: Spotlights 80-year-old Betty Kellenberger, the oldest to hike the Appalachian Trail, symbolizing perseverance ([46:42]).
• Listener Q&A: Gruber reads and responds to audience opinions on shutdown duration, exposing widespread public frustration and cynicism ([46:42]-[50:14]).
• Cybersecurity Anecdotes: Gruber and Bolling share personal stories of falling victim to social media hacks ([50:14]-[52:28]).
• Nostalgic Midwest anecdotes, adding a personable close to the episode.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Steve Gruber ([03:29]):
  “How about while government is shut down, none of us pay taxes and they don’t get paid? That’ll get them to a solution real fast. I’d bet.”
• Speaker Mike Johnson ([02:28]):
  “They made the calculation that it’s worth it to them. Every day gets better for us. We’ll use the pain as leverage. For what? To prove to the far left base that they won’t give in.”
• Rep. Julia Letlow ([16:10]):
  “I’ve actually asked that my paycheck be withheld. If we’re talking about federal employees not receiving their paycheck but being required to show up on the job, I definitely should not receive a paycheck as well.”
• Dr. Jeff Myers ([35:07]):
  “There are more people who were killed last year who were Christians in Nigeria, than were killed in Gaza, and yet you’ll hear 100 stories about Gaza before you hear one story about what’s happening in Nigeria.”
• Anthony Esposito ([31:07]):
  “6 to 12 month time period, I could see us up 20% from here up towards 5,000.”

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Government Shutdown & Impact: [00:29]–[14:15]
• Interview with Congresswoman Julia Letlow: [15:17]–[22:41]
• Market Updates & Economics (with Anthony Esposito): [24:14]–[31:25]
• Religious Persecution in Nigeria (with Dr. Jeff Myers): [33:55]–[38:12]
• Debt Relief Advice (with Melanie Pcor): [39:37]–[44:30]
• ‘America is Wonderful’ – Appalachian Trail Story: [46:42]–[50:14]
• Audience Q&A/Closing Conversation with Bolling: [50:14]–[52:28]

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Tone and Style

• Direct, unfiltered, and opinionated, matching the show’s “honest views” branding.
• Heavy on emotional appeals, especially regarding hardship from the shutdown.
• Blunt critiques of political opponents; high praise for Trump and “America First” policies.
• Highlights of resilience—both at national (policy) and individual (personal story) scales.
• Intermittent humor and nostalgia, especially in the final segment.

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For New Listeners

This episode is a charged, conservative take on the government shutdown’s human and political impacts, interwoven with praise for Trump-era economic and foreign policy moves, concern for global religious freedom, and everyday American challenges and triumphs. Expect strong editorializing, a sense of community, and calls for political accountability and resilience.

Transcript

[Melanie Pcor]

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[Steve Gruber]

This is America's Voice live. And welcome to America's Voice Live. I'm Steve Guru. The pulse of the people. We need somebody that's going to hear the people's voice, the truth the mainstream won't touch. This guy is by definition a globalist. And the stories that matter. Rav's own Ben Berklam. Right up over this hill.

[Dr. Jeff Myers]

The other one, cartel.

[Steve Gruber]

I see him. I see him.

[Anthony Esposito]

I see him.

[Steve Gruber]

Live. Breaking news right now here on Real America's Filtered. These people are domestic terrorists and unapologetic. We're here to take a stand for God and country. Does feel good. America's Voice Live starts now. And welcome to America's Voice Live. I'm Steve guer. It is the 28th of October. It's Tuesday. Thank you for being here and thank you for joining us here today. It's Halloween, or Hallows Eve as it's known. And given the fragment rights and scares of the program, we. You know, I think I'm in the wrong place, aren't I? That's right, I am. We'll get right to it. Here are the three big things you need to know this hour for this Tuesday, 28th October. The government shutdown drags Honest Chuck Schumer and far left Democrats put illegal aliens ahead of federal workers, all while President Trump is touring Asians securing even more investments for America. I'll bring on Congresswoman Julia Ludlow to discuss and also take a look at the markets after a record breaking day on Monday. Great numbers amid President Trump's tour in Asia, where he has already secured a $550 billion investment pledge from Japan. That I'll discuss. And then later. Christian communities in Nigeria face ongoing brutal attacks with the Fulani herdsmen and jihadis targeting the faithful. Senator Ted Cruz now pushing to designate Nigeria as a country of particular concern from religious freedom violations. All that and more coming your way. But first I'd like to circle back to the ongoing Schumer shutdown. We are now in day 28 of the government shutdown. And for a half million government workers or more, that means they've missed their first paycheck. The second paycheck is about to be missed. It's the Schumer shutdown. Democrats refusing to open. The government refusing to support a clean, continuing resolution, something they've always supported before. Always. Speaker Mike Johnson says it's ridiculous how stubborn the left wing of Congress is acting at the expense of. Of the entire country. Listen.

[Mike Johnson]

See, they've made an evaluation that they have to appease the Marxist base. That they're so concerned that they'll lose their jobs if they don't appease the far left in their party. And they sat in a back room and they made the calculation that they would rather shut the government down and impose all this pain on the American people because they believe the Marxists, the far left and the base are more active than hard working Americans, people who go vote. And so they made the calculation that it's worth it to them. Every day gets better for us. We'll use the pain as leverage. For what? To prove to the far left base that they won't give in. That they'll fight Trump and fight the Republicans. What are they fighting? It's a clean cr. It's the same level of funding that they have voted for as recently as earlier this year. They are Biden level policies and spending. This is not some Republican wish list. We don't have any of our priorities in this at all. It's the Democrats own product. But they have decided to flip the script this time because they were getting too much heat from the far left.

[Steve Gruber]

Too much heat from the far left means we're being held hostage by the far left in the country. And like Johnson says, not even for anything we want. And I say we because this affects us all. It affects the families who won't receive any SNAP benefits next month. And whether or not you think we should cut the bloat and food assistance program, some people really do need the help they do. It affects the food we eat. The FDA is responsible for quality and safety and they've got thousands of people furloughed right now. It affects the flights you want to take. We're already seeing massive delays at some airports. It's inconsistent. But most of all, it's causing very tangible suffering for the million or so workers who are going without, even while some of them show up for work because they have to. And now's as good a time as any to remind everyone that while air traffic controllers are showing up without pay, members of Congress are sitting on their asses delivering sound bites while they collect their paychecks without pause. I've got an idea. I think you'll like it. How about while government is shut down, none of us pay taxes and they don't get paid. That'll get them to a solution real fast. I'd bet. And I know I pointed this out yesterday, but it's worth repeating. The Democrats just view all the suffering as a tool for furthering the agenda. Their Far left agenda Democrat Chuck Schumer told a reporter that every day of the shutdown is better for Democrats. When asked about that asinine comment, he just doubled down on the belief that it makes his party look better. Does it? Listen, can you just talk to us.

[Melanie Pcor]

About your comments last week in an.

[Congresswoman Julia Letlow]

Interview where you said every day gets.

[Melanie Pcor]

Better or Republicans have seized on that?

[Announcer]

Can you explain what you meant?

[Steve Gruber]

Look, every day more and more Americans see how bad this health crisis is as they get their notices, as they hear all about it, and every day they are seeing more and more that Democrats are on their side, fighting for what they believe in. Yeah, it gets even worse. House Minority Whip Democrat Catherine Clark called the suffering of millions of Americans leverage. I know you've seen this before, but it's worth repeating. Here she is.

[Congresswoman Julia Letlow]

I mean, shutdowns are terrible and of.

[Steve Gruber]

Course there will be, you know, families that are going to suffer. We take that responsibility very seriously. But it is one of the few leveraged times we have. So seriously that she will not support the Senate opening the government. Democrats are just really revealing themselves to be villains in all of this, aren't they? Let's take a look at that leverage, shall we? Here are a few workers who are going without because of the Democrats refusal to open the government.

[Melanie Pcor]

Listen, my husband and myself are both controllers and both completely rely on the government being funded to be able to provide for our three children. I'll need to reschedule a surgery I've been waiting since March of this year to do.

[Steve Gruber]

As a single dad with two kids, I do live paycheck to paycheck. How am I going to pay for groceries for my family? How am I going to feed my family? How am I going to pay my mortgage to keep a roof over my family's head? How am I going to pay for childcare for people to watch my kids? My wife and I had our first child four months ago. I had started doing like other colleagues, doing doordash and Uber Eats and Amazon Flex just to make sure had some income at the end of the month to buy groceries, diapers and wipes. I've had to pick up a second job just to make sure that we're able to make ends meet.

[Melanie Pcor]

How long can we survive until we.

[Steve Gruber]

Have to pick up a second job.

[Melanie Pcor]

On top of working six days a week unpaid?

[Steve Gruber]

Yeah, these are the stories that the fresh should be elevating, talking about amplifying, not their petty complaints over a ballroom renovation being paid for with private money. Of course, some of the most heart Wrenching stories come from those who have been forced to turn to food banks, which, by the way, is a testament to the resilience of American charity work. At least listen to this. We gonna have enough for everybody. They're sending another truck.

[Announcer]

With the government shutdown entering week four and no end in sight.

[Steve Gruber]

Just give her two boxes and a pizza.

[Announcer]

For federal workers, the paychecks have stopped, but they still have families to feed.

[Dr. Jeff Myers]

You good.

[Steve Gruber]

Hope it helps you.

[Announcer]

The Capital Area Food bank is now doing food giveaways for federal workers here.

[Steve Gruber]

At this site in Hyattsville. Many folks asked that we not show their faces, but told us times have been tough. It's not fair that the federal government employees and military members are being used.

[Announcer]

As pawns in whatever this is.

[Steve Gruber]

And that's exactly what these workers are being turned into. Pawns. And this is not a game that anyone wants to play, except apparently Democrat politicians. How about this mom who's having to hide her despair from her own daughter? Listen to this. Federal workers waiting in long lines at this food bank in Southern Maryland. I would have never thought in a million years that I would have been in this position to have to go to a food bank. Denise Blake says she drove over an.

[Announcer]

Hour to get here. When she finally arrived, they had run out of food.

[Steve Gruber]

We have a cart ready for you out front.

[Congresswoman Julia Letlow]

Fortunately, she did not leave empty handed.

[Steve Gruber]

But she still faces the harsh reality.

[Announcer]

Of not knowing how she's going to.

[Steve Gruber]

Feed her family while she's not getting paid during the government shutdown. I don't want my daughter to see me crying. Yeah, I think the point has been made. These people are getting pay stubs with a fat zero on them. Many of them will still have to show up to work because if they don't, they'll lose their jobs. Remarkable, isn't it? While Democrats continue to stonewall on behalf of illegal aliens who want free health care and the left wing faction of the party who care more about that than the Americans are actually contributing to society every single day. And let's be clear, this is just another attack on America. First priorities. Because at the end of the day, what President Trump is fighting for is better health care for American citizens by cutting out the waste, fraud and abuse the Democrats want to put back in. All of it. Here's more.

[Scott Besant]

The Democrats should just do a simple extension. That's the best way. The Democrats are holding it up. They want $1.5 trillion for people that came out of prisons, for illegal aliens that come into our country. We don't want to do that because that will help really hur hurt the health care that we have in our country. And frankly, we'd like to see better health care, period. We're not looking to do that. The Democrats can solve that problem with air traffic control. All they have to do is say the country's open. We only need five votes. The Republicans are with us. We only need five votes. So let's see what happens. I would imagine that gets taken care of, not only the controllers, but other people too.

[Steve Gruber]

Like I said yesterday, I've been saying from the beginning for 28 days now. @ the heart of it all, this is a Democrat created problem. They can say otherwise, but the truth is not on their side. The Affordable Care Act, Obamacare is a broken system that is once again failing Americans and Democrats fighting to keep it broken. But why now? Why put up this fight now over a clean continuing resolution that Democrats have always argued should be pushed through? It comes back to polling to how the Democrats want to be perceived. Secretary Scott Besant points this out in this comment. Chuck Schumer is trading off his polls. What's different than when he passed a clean CR in the spring? It's his polls. You know, he's, the whole country's being held captive to AOC polls. But let's look at the numbers. It's 52 to three. 52 Republicans have voted, I believe it's 11 times to reopen the government. Three Democrats have. And right here, right now, I would urge moderate Democratic senators to come across the aisle, reopen the government, because I'll tell you, we're starting to eat in the muscle here. This is starting to affect travel, is starting to affect the economy. And you know, this is quixotic. Yeah, you can hear the NBC host trying to quickly wrap up because the secretary was just making too much sense. She didn't like it. But the rest of the American public, outside the far left and the chronically online, the rest of us get it. Despite Schumer's belief that this is making them look better, we see just how desperate and selfish these politicians really are. The only ones saving face are those moderates that Secretary Besant was talking about. One of them being Senator John Fetterman. That's right, John Fetterman, the one, the guy that's making sense for the Democrats. Whoever would have thought that here he has a message for his Democrat colleagues. Listen, 23 days, 12 votes. Senator Federer and I have both voted to open up the government. We agree on that 100%. It's really starting to hurt Pennsylvania and Pennsylvania's air traffic controllers, Border Patrol and also 2 million recipients of SNAP. We've got to get the government open. That's our main responsibility. And I'd say that regardless of what party's in the majority. So I think we both this our.

[Dr. Jeff Myers]

Votes are about country over party at this point.

[Steve Gruber]

Now we have 2 million Pennsylvanians that rely on SNAP.

[Dr. Jeff Myers]

That's gonna stop.

[Steve Gruber]

And now we can now stop reopen.

[Dr. Jeff Myers]

This government and have an earnest conversation.

[Steve Gruber]

About extending those tax credits. You know, I really, we know we're.

[Dr. Jeff Myers]

Going to participate in this process. That's why we both vote to open up our government. We're in a different party. We're on the same team for Pennsylvania and our nation.

[Steve Gruber]

Sadly, it's a dying message country over party. But hopefully Fetterman stand might inspire a couple of his colleagues to do the right thing to cross the aisle. They only need five Democrats in addition to what they have to make it happen. I don't have a lot of hope in Democrats regaining their sanity. But you never know. This shutdown will end one way or another and Democrats will only remember it as their great stand against a president that the American people voted for overwhelmingly but who they hate. While the rest of America will remember the food bank lines, the zero dollar paychecks, the canceled flights. It's a lose lose for Democrats and for America. I can assure you of that. We must do better. Coming up after the break, I'll bring on Congresswoman Julia Letlow of Louisiana to discuss multiple topics, including the ongoing discussion of the government shift shut down as well as President Trump's tour in Asia and the deals that he's getting. Details straight ahead.

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[Steve Gruber]

All right, welcome back to america's Voice Live. I'd like to continue the discussion of the Democrat led government shutdown caused by Chuck Schumer in his far left posse, who seem to care a lot more about illegal aliens than they do about their own citizens. As Americans employed by the federal government continue to suffer without a paycheck, the Democrats show no sign of coming together as a nation to reopen the government. Here with me to discuss this, Congresswoman Julia Letlow. She represents Louisiana 5 in Congress. Julia, thank you for being here.

[Congresswoman Julia Letlow]

Thank you for having me on, Steve.

[Steve Gruber]

All right, let's talk about this. You've got people that are going to miss their second paycheck. You've got people that are doing things like doordash to try to make ends meet. Because if you work for the TSA or an air traffic controller or a whole host of other jobs, you can't not show up because they'll fire you. You're getting no paycheck, but you're required to work. My assertion might be that maybe members of Congress shouldn't get paid during the shutdown. What do you think of that?

[Congresswoman Julia Letlow]

I completely agree. And I've actually asked that my paycheck be withheld. If we're talking about federal employees not receiving their paycheck but being required to show up on the job, I definitely should not receive a paycheck as well. And that goes for every Congressmember. The onus of this shutdown falls squarely on the shoulders of Democrats, the House of Representatives. We have done our jobs. We did it 28 days ago when we passed a clean CR and sent it over to the Senate. The Senate Democrats are holding our country hostage. My heart goes out to those who are in need, those who in my district, who I'm talking to on a daily basis, who are terrified that they are not going to receive their SNAP benefits, WIC benefits. Those are real fears that we are having real conversations with people in my own district that falls squarely on the shoulders of the Democrats. All they have to do is pass that clean cr, reopen the government so we can get back to work for the American people.

[Steve Gruber]

Yeah. Whoever thought that John Fetterman, the senator from Pennsylvania, would be the voice of reason inside the Democrat Party? He's voting to reopen the government. Every single. You need five more to join the group, to get it to 60, to get it passed. And yet here we are, day 28. I. I don't see an end in sight. Do you?

[Congresswoman Julia Letlow]

I hope there's an end in sight. People are depending on it. I applaud Senator Fetterman for doing the right thing. I encourage, I strongly implore five more of his colleagues to do the right thing, come over to his side and reopen the government. We desperately need to get back to work for the American people. Day 28 is way too long. It is time for us to go back to work.

[Steve Gruber]

Yeah, I'd like to shift gears now a little bit. You've probably been paying attention. Donald Trump touring Asia right now, securing some big deals along the way in Malaysia. Just got a $550 billion deal in Japan. Apparently, there could be a Ford F150 dealership there sometime soon. It's also a big, important note that they're going to be buying soybeans. We cannot be so reliant on China to buy so many different things. We have to cut that cord. I think President Trump working actively to make sure we have other outlets, other markets, not only for ag products, but for all sorts of products. That's a good thing, isn't it?

[Congresswoman Julia Letlow]

Absolutely. Nobody does it better than President Trump. He truly knows how to make those deals and impactful deals for our country. You know, I tell all of my constituents here, just hang tight. He is a master of the deal. He knows what he's doing, and it will pay off for the American people. My number one industry in Louisiana is agriculture, and we're already seeing that play out and come true in my district alone. So could not be prouder of the work that the president is doing nationwide, but also globally as well.

[Steve Gruber]

Yeah, absolutely. And brokering peace deals along the way, getting a chance to witness Cambodia and Thailand signing another peace deal that he had helped to broker. I mean, this is a peace president, a prosperity president who's doing the work that needs to be done. And the Democrats want to talk about a ballroom. Seems like an odd priority, doesn't it?

[Congresswoman Julia Letlow]

Absolutely. It's astounding to me that that is their number one complaint. There are so many wonderful things that the president has been able to accomplish. And I know as a mom with a young son myself, no one wants to see our young men have to go off to war. This is a president who believes in peace through strength, and he is showing that on the national and global stage. For once, we are seen as powerful and strong, the way that America should be the greatest country in the world, and we have the greatest leader leading it.

[Steve Gruber]

I want to ask you about something else. Several states now playing games with redistricting and I don't know if it's really games. You have 155 million Americans today that have zero representation by Republicans in Congress. 155 million. Conversely, there are only 55 million Americans represented by Republicans alone. So states like North Carolina and Indiana are stepping up. Now, Virginia is getting involved, but the real case comes back to Louisiana where the Supreme Court is evaluating a case where Louisiana has filed suit to say, look, you cannot dictate to us. We have to draw congressional districts based on race. If that happens and Louisiana wins, which I believe they will, that'll bring 12 seats roughly to the, to the Republicans. I think the Democrats are fighting a losing war here. What are your thoughts?

[Congresswoman Julia Letlow]

Yes, we are anxiously awaiting that ruling from the Supreme Court. If it goes our way, it will send reverberations across this country that districts should not be drawn on race alone. So we are all anxiously awaiting that ruling to see how it will affect Louisiana, but not only Louisiana nationwide. So I agree with you, that will be a landmark case for the Supreme Court. And it all started in Louisiana.

[Steve Gruber]

Yeah, it'll impact Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, the list goes on. Where they've been forced to create congressional districts based solely on race. I think it's unconstitutional and illegal, but we'll see how the Supreme Court rules. But I feel pretty confident about that. Last thing. You recently penned a letter to the Secretary of Homeland Security, Kristi Noem, calling for a briefing regarding the participation of an illegal alien in your district who participated in The Hamas led October 7th attack. I couldn't believe this when I heard this story. There it is. This person was participating as one of the terrorists murdering innocent people. How did they end up in Louisiana? How did this happen?

[Congresswoman Julia Letlow]

That's exactly what we're trying to find out under this prior administration. How someone who was part of the October 7th attack, part of Hamas, ended up in Louisiana is terrifying. Should be terrifying to all of us nationwide. It definitely is in Louisiana. We are, definitely are. My colleagues and I are seeking answers as to how that happened. We're waiting to hear back from the department. I'll let you know what we find out.

[Steve Gruber]

Congresswoman, greatly appreciate you being here. As always, nice seeing you again. A lot happening and I'm sure we'll have updates on all of it in the days to come. Thank you.

[Congresswoman Julia Letlow]

Sounds great. Thank you.

[Steve Gruber]

Really appreciate. All right, up after the break, I'll take a look at the markets after a record breaking day yesterday with President Trump on his Asia tour. He's already started, secured, As I mentioned, $550 billion from Japan and more 100 billion from Westinghouse. The list goes on. Details coming up on America's Voice Live.

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[Steve Gruber]

All right, not going to kid you. It's going to take some practice to get this right, so bear with me. Japan has a new Prime Minister, Sanichi I I think that's pretty close. And they a Takaichi, very conservative, focusing on eliminating immigration into the nation of Japan. They never allowed much. She doesn't want any. She met President Trump in Tokyo earlier this morning, praising the United States and signing a deal to secure critical rare ear minerals. It's a very big deal if you didn't notice. Yesterday US stocks hit record prices across the Dow, the NASDAQ, the S& P record numbers. It's remarkable after President Trump announced a positive trade negotiation with China ahead of his meeting with Xi Jinping that's expected to happen Thursday. The Dow rose more than 300 points, the S&P 500 jumped above 6800 for the very first time and Qualcomm shares soared nearly 20% after announcing an acceleration of data center chip production. I mean it is remarkable. All three major indices closed at record highs Friday as well. It's one record after another. The Fed, by the way, expected to cut rates tomorrow even though they don't have the numbers on unemployment because the government's closed inflation is cool. They do know that Schumer shut down delayed CPI report though his Amazon announced 14,000 job cuts and Skydance planned layoffs. Gold remains just below $4,000 now announced Bitcoin risen above 115,000 it just depends on where you look. It depends on where you look. But the economy in general seems to be strong in many sectors. And if you invest in different places, if you got some diversity, you're probably pretty well insulated. But you never know, there could be a correction. Here to discuss what this means for the American community consumer is Anthony Esposito, founder and CEO of Ascalon six Capital. Anthony, thank you for being here.

[Anthony Esposito]

Thank you for having me.

[Steve Gruber]

All right, so gold was soaring up to about 44 and a half. It's cooled off by $500 an ounce. But all the indices, the S and P, the nasdaq, the Dow, all soaring. Crypto, including bitcoin, has come back from where it was. It was not all the way back to 125,000 a coin. But regardless, where you look at the economy right now here in the United States, a lot of things look pretty strong. What is your take?

[Anthony Esposito]

So I think we're probably in the further innings of, of the market's bull run. We had a little bit of a disruption with that tariff conversation earlier in the year that was more of a shock than a bear market. And I think we continue to see that risk appetite grow. So as the tensions on the trade front and China ease and as that Fed conversation starts to look more and more like there will be consecutive cuts coming, you see capital now start to come out of gold, which I think is a temporary consolidation, even though it's been a pretty dramatic sell off. I don't think that gold is done with its run. But you see some, some juice come out of gold, some flows come out of gold. You've seen those head into the Treasuries, which has brought rates down on the 10 year below 4%, which is what we want to do. And you've seen the S&P 500, for example. Equity markets continue to rally higher to all time highs. So we're seeing some shift in assets and some movement from one class to another. Overall risk appetite is there. It is good. I find it hard to believe that equity markets will fade heading into the end of the year. It's been a little bit of a brutal year as far as volatility spikes. Everyone wants to get paid and no one wants to tread back down or retrace too far because the, the higher and the stronger we close, the better. Most money managers will do and their investors will do. So as we get to that kind of November into December turn, I think we're in good position to probably add another 2 to 3% to the market and close up there for the year heading into next year. I do see us kind of extended and I do see some risk. But right now, risk appetite is there and it probably continues to be there through the end of the year.

[Steve Gruber]

So let me ask you this. The President meeting with Xi Jinping on Thursday this week, there is some discussion that the framework for a trade deal is in place. Despite the fact that China is not buying soybeans. They've done reasonably well. They're at an almost 52 week high, which is helping farmers here. Of course, new markets in biodiesel and from Japan have helped the agricultural sector. But what happens if China comes in and says, you know what, we're ready to buy beans again, we're ready to engage again, we're ready to get rid of some of these tariffs. If you have that and you're coupled with that with a rate decrease from the Fed, it could really rev things up even more. Couldn't.

[Anthony Esposito]

Definitely could. Look, we want trade to be fair and we want trade to be more tilted towards the US which it hasn't been. Right. So as we start to reduce these trade deficits and we start to take some income in from tariffs and we can keep trade functioning, of course it's going to be good for the US Economy and the world economy. In addition to that, we're bringing in private investments that were just private investments again announced with Japan today, where we're bringing more capital onto the shores of the United States. Rather than exporting our wealth as we have done, we're now importing, taking on investments and that will help the economy grow. So they're all good things. I think it's all moving us in the right direction. Just remains to be seen how we work out the final details with China, which will take some time, and then how we move forward with these investments. Do they come in? When do they come in and how do we take advantage?

[Steve Gruber]

Yeah, the problem with China is that they tend to be, I think the word is dishonest. They don't always honor their deals, which makes it a bit unpredictable. But I can tell you this right now, The Dow went over 47900 today, which is a remarkable number to say the least. I've never seen anything like it. I don't know that anybody has. So here we are with a remarkable number there. The NASDAQ over 23,000, almost 24, and the S&P over 6900 for the first time. I mean, these are tremendous numbers. All right, so the last question, real quick about gold, you think that it's going to continue to go. I've seen some predictions still holding to $5,000 gold. Do you think that that's a reality? What are your thoughts? Last question.

[Anthony Esposito]

I do. I think that if you look at real rates, so inflation adjusted rates, if you look at the dollar and if you look at inflationary pressures, global debt, for example, I think that you can see gold pushing through 4,000 to 5,000. I have gold on the near term, the trade signal for me at Ascalon 6 has shifted to negative. Will be there for a little while but on the longer term I still have positive signals for gold and I could see gold definitely moving up towards the 5000 level.

[Steve Gruber]

And what's the longer term real quickly.

[Anthony Esposito]

I think at that point you have to see what it does at 5,000. I think the fact of it getting there is no, my question is over.

[Steve Gruber]

What time frame are you looking at?

[Anthony Esposito]

Oh, I think, yeah, I think a 6 to 12 month period with the momentum that we have and the story not really fundamentally have changed. We're seeing a shift in assets now, but the fundamental story has not changed. So 6 to 12 month time period, I could see us up 20% from here up towards 5,000.

[Steve Gruber]

Well, there you go, another big win. Anthony Esposito, thank you for being here today. Founder CEO of Ascalon six Capital. Good stuff. All right, we're gonna take a break after we talk about Patriot Mobile. Because every choice we make is an opportunity to stand for freedom. Even something as simple as your cell phone service. Here's the truth. Most cell phone providers don't care about you. They don't. They just want your money. Patriot Mobile is different. For more than a dozen years, they've stood with Americans who believe in faith, family and freedom, contributing millions of dollars to Christian conservative causes. The best part is this. With Patriot Mobile, you don't have to sacrifice quality or service. Patriot Mobile offers premium access to all three major US networks so you'll never have to worry about coverage. Never think switching is complicated. It's not. Keep your number and keep your phone. Or you can upgrade if you'd like. They've got all the best models. Patriot Mobile's 100% US based team will get you activated in just minutes. If you're stuck in a contract or still owe money on your phone, no problem. They even have a contract buyout program. So what are you waiting for? Trust me, it's easy. It used to be such a pain to switch. It's not anymore. Go to patriotmobile.com rav or call 972 Patriot. Use the promo code RAV for a free month of service. Right now. Switch today. That's patriotmobile.com rav or you can call 972 Patriot. I'll take a break and be right back on America's Voice Live.

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[Steve Gruber]

All right, time for a story we've discussed here at length. I don't know how many other networks are giving at this kind of time, but the violence and persecution of Christians, specifically in the nation of Nigeria, remains to be a problem as these cases have maintained prevalence despite President Trump's intervention. Yeah, in Nigeria's middle belt specifically, there have been numerous instances where Christian practitioners recount harrowing tales of massacres where heavily armed Fulani herdsmen and jihadists take it upon themselves to call those just wanting to express their faith. That's another word for murder, by the way, Realizing something has to be done. Ted Cruz has been active in his efforts to designate Nigeria as a country of particular concern due to these brazen and heartbreaking instances where religious freedom is being violated. It is a genocide. 125,000. That's the last estimate we've seen. 125,000 Christians murdered. Joining me to discuss this, the president of Summit Ministries, Dr. Jeff Myers. Doctor, nice to see you. We've had some of these stories on the, on the program here. We've heard from some of the people that have had villages wiped out, ministers who have buried their, well, their followers and their brothers and sisters. It's just horrific, isn't is horrific, Steve?

[Dr. Jeff Myers]

And you're right, you, you are one of the only networks covering this on a regular basis. So congratulations for doing that. There are more people who were kill year who were Christians in Nigeria, then were killed in Gaza, and yet you'll hear 100 stories about Gaza before you hear one story about what's happening in Nigeria. Does it count as a genocide? Well, it certainly is an Islamic versus Christian issue, and it is the Christians who are being slaughtered. There are three different groups. There's Boko Haram, there are the Fulani herdsmen, as you mentioned, and there's also an ISIS affiliate in Nigeria. So population is split 50, 50 between Christians and Muslims. And the Muslims in this situation are. Are slaughtering Christians at an unprecedented rate. The answer is very straightforward, what we can do, and I think Senator Cruz is going to be bringing that up.

[Steve Gruber]

I look forward to that for sure. Look, here's where I have a complete disrespect for the United Nations. They have two jobs in their charter. Stop wars, stop genocide. I don't know that I can think of any instance in my lifetime where they've done either. The United nations is a failure. Why we support them and pay the bills is beyond me. The United States, based on Donald Trump's performance in office so far, far better equipped to try to sort these things out. What do you say?

[Dr. Jeff Myers]

United nations serves at the interests of nations that are. Are not doing what is right. I think it's very straightforward. The United States needs to be a moral leader and in this situation. And what we need to do is designate that Nigeria is a country of particular concern. That's a State Department designation. And it sets in motion the possibility that we can sanction them and use the other tools at our disposal, economic and political, to force the government of Nigeria to step up and defend its own people. It sounds crazy that we would have to do that, but we do have the tools. And waiting around for the United nations to do something is pointless.

[Steve Gruber]

Absolutely true. It's sad. I hope that Senator Cruz can deliver us something here and for those Nigerians, our prayers are with him. I'm not sure what else we can do from this distance with what's happening there, but it's an everyday occurrence, Jeff, and we need to find a way to save those people. They're being, you know, just murdered a wholesale. I'll give you the last word.

[Dr. Jeff Myers]

Well, I'll tell you what the issue is not. It is not climate change. This is why the Biden administration was unable to deal with this situation, because they said, well, this is just climate change. The desert is encroaching on the. The herding territory or the grazing pastures of the Fulani herdsmen. And so therefore they're moving south. And that creates tensions. That is simply not the case. And now people are starting to recognize, no, this is actually a religious campaign against Christians. Nothing do with climate change. This is why the Biden administration totally missed it and hopefully the Trump administration won't.

[Steve Gruber]

Well, and I hope you're right because this is absolutely inexcusable and horrendous. Jeff, always appreciate you being here. Dr. Jeff Myers, thank you. Thanks, Steve. All right, don't go anywhere. America's Voice LIVE will continue after a short break.

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[Steve Gruber]

Well, debt as you know, is unfortunately a reality in the lives of far too many Americans. Thanks to predatory loans or credit cards that give high limits, incentivizing one to overspend. Thankfully, the team at Iconic Debt Relief is here to help customers navigate the murky waters of debt collectors and gain back their financial freedom. Freedom. Joining me now to discuss a consumer finance advocate with Iconic Debt Relief, Melanie Pcor. Melanie, thank you for being here today.

[Melanie Pcor]

Yeah, thank you so much. It's great to be here. We are very passionate about helping our hardworking Americans just get the honest information they deserve when it comes to finding relief from their debt.

[Steve Gruber]

Now we hear the credit card balances and interest rates are at record highs. Are you seeing the same thing?

[Melanie Pcor]

Oh, absolutely. I mean, I think it's worse than most people really do realize. Our average American family carries over $20,000 in credit card debt. Interest rates have doubled over the last few years and honestly, many people making payments every month, year after year, balances aren't going down, and a lot of people don't even realize that, you know, they'll pay a little bit extra here or there. Then all of a sudden, an unexpected expense comes up and they're stuck. Right. And that's really where we come in, is to just help connect people with legitimate and proven programs that can finally get them the relief that they're seeking.

[Steve Gruber]

Yeah. You know, it causes a lot of anxiety, the debt. It's all fun when you spend the money on the credit card, when the bill comes, and then you look at and go, what have I done? And then it builds up over time. It can cause you to lose sleep. It can cause you to have misery. It's just miserable place to be. So how does your team actually help someone who is struggling like that?

[Melanie Pcor]

Oh, yeah, and you're absolutely right. But at Iconic Debt Relief, we really just start with a simple free consultation. We look at your overall financial profile. Right. So we look at your debt, your income. We want to understand your goals, where you want to be in five to 10 years, and then really create a plan that can lower your overall payments and truly reduce your total amount that's owed. Because in all reality, you've probably paid back your debt by now. Right. But our goal is to just give people back the control, the confidence, reduce those stress levels you were mentioning and really get that peace of mind. That's what it's all about in finding those real solutions, not just a temporary fix.

[Steve Gruber]

Yeah. Can you share, give us a story, a real story that captures what Iconic Debt Relief is doing for people today.

[Melanie Pcor]

Sure, I'd be happy to. Actually, one that really comes to mind is a couple from Texas. They came to US with about $45,000 worth in credit card debt. They were both working full time, working really hard. In fact, they didn't even really know where that debt had built up from, and they just couldn't get out from underneath it. After joining a relief program through Iconic, their monthly payments actually dropped by about 60%. And within a few months, they said that they finally felt that they could breathe again. Like that brick was lifted off of their chest. The stress levels had reduced. And again, that's really what it's all about, Right. Is helping people finally take their lives back.

[Steve Gruber]

Yeah. Getting, you know, some sense of calmness. So many ads out there promising to wipe away debt. How can viewers tell who to trust? That's the real question.

[Melanie Pcor]

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[Steve Gruber]

Yeah, that's important. Your mission talks about helping people take back control of their life. Financial freedom, what does that mean to you? I mean, what does it mean to get back on track?

[Melanie Pcor]

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[Steve Gruber]

Yeah. So for someone watching right now who's overwhelmed, they're having that anxiety. The things that we've talked about. What's step one?

[Melanie Pcor]

Reach out. The call is free. Right. There's no obligation. You'll speak with someone who listens, who understands. Who's this there to truly help find the right solution that fits for their life? You can visit iconic.com. yeah. Stop putting it off. It could be the most important call that you make this year. Right. You can visit iconic relief.com or call the number on the screen.

[Steve Gruber]

All right, Melanie, thank you for being here and for the incredible work you and your team are doing. We truly appreciate it.

[Melanie Pcor]

Yeah. Thank you so much. We're super honored to help and be here.

[Steve Gruber]

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[Steve Gruber]

All right, what makes America wonderful? It's why we do it every day. To put a smile on your face and make sure you leave here hey. And hey. I like that when Gruber does that. By the way, you can send me emails if there's something you want to see or something that's going on in your neighborhood and say, hey, no problem. Just go to stevedruber.com send me an email, say hey, here's a really cool story that makes America wonderful. Stevegruber.com and you can do that. Today's story comes to us from Mount Cathedon, Maine. I hope I said it right. Mainers an 80 year old woman finished the entirety of the Appalachian Trail. 80 years old. You'll know the Appalachian Trail is one of the longest continuous hiking trails that spans 2,200 miles, stretches across 14 states starting in Springer Mountain, Georgia. It's been said that the hiking, the entire thing, is equivalent to climbing Everest 16 times. Except, well, you don't tend to die. Despite these conditions, Betty Kellenberger took on the challenge and braved the track as she faced dehydration, a concussion from a fall, and even braved Hurricane Helene. Yeah, she was there for it right up front. Betty's final stretch saw her proudly boasting about the trek she had just completed, a trek that saw her making history. Being the oldest confirmed person to complete complete the Appalachian Trail. Pretty remarkable. Fighting for your dreams no matter what, is the moral of today's story. And Betty's determination reminds us of what makes America wonderful. You know, even as you get older, like I'm doing, you can still do these things. I'm sure Bolling will point that out to me in a minute. Anyhow, here's your question of the day. How long do you think Democrats plan to keep the government closed instead of negotiating. The Trump pirate says let them keep going. Just digging a bigger hole to climb out of some truth to that Boom. Writes this they'll let the people on snap revolt for a few days. Revolt? Yeah. You know what I noticed when I was younger? Hungry people are angry people. My brother was always mad if he didn't eat sarcasm writes until whatever elections are held this November are over. So that's next week. You might be right, Ali G. Sadly, it seems Dems are going to carry on with this charade until voters hate Trump. Most of the nation's curious how a couple of crooks can stop the US Government from conducting business. Maybe the system needs reform. You think? You know, if you just didn't pay the members of Congress and you were, you're not getting paid. How about that? Helen B. Writes, they aren't used to not getting their way. They don't know how to lose. I don't trust them to ever do the right thing. Yeah, I can't argue with that. CD Hunter71 I believe they'll keep it shut down until riots begin at grocery and retail stores because the EBT cards won't get funded. They won't work anymore. And Gidi Radaki, she writes, I think it will be after November 1st when everyone who has Obamacare loses their health care. The Democrats will try to blame the Republicans for it, but the mainstream media will clutch the pearls and freak out. At least they will stop talking about privately funded ballrooms for a little while. You got that? All right, so if you want to be part of the question of the day, follow me on any of the major social media platforms. By the way, I got hacked on Facebook yesterday by some guy named Mohammed something or other posting that Donald Trump had died. And I like what? Anyhow, there was a big hack yesterday. If you missed it for a lot of people, we dealt with it. I think we got it fixed. But be careful, my friends. Be careful. All right, Bolling's joining now as I'm going to hand the baton to him of news, information, and, of course, entertainment. Bolling, how are you?

[Bolling]

I'm mildly entertained about your you're being hacked, Steve Gruber. How disturbing is that? Something happened to me, too. Yeah, it's scary, right?

[Steve Gruber]

It is. Dirty Donald Trump has died. You know, big breaking news. I'm like. And people are like, gruber, what are you doing? I'm like, seriously, folks, you followed me for years and you think this is a real post? I had to. I had to go in there and say, I've been hacked. You know, whatever.

[Bolling]

You know, people were speculating that maybe it was your birthday yesterday, you went out and have a few cocktails, maybe, you know, you thought you'd be funny on social media.

[Steve Gruber]

You know, those things do happen, you know?

[Bolling]

So one time I was packed, not whack. I got. I. I got a DM direct message from Greta Van Suster. And I was working at Fox, and I get a DM from Greta, all right? She's like, hey, make sure you fill this out because it's important. So I opened it up, I. I fill it out, and it was a. It was a country hacking they had hacked. Greta got into hers, and then she sent a bunch of DMs. Everyone, we all opened and we all got hacked. You really have to be careful not to open anything that you absolutely don't know you're sure of.

[Steve Gruber]

Yeah, spun out of control. You know, here's the thing. I don't get this. Do these people really have nothing better to do than mess with my Facebook account or your account or Greta's account? I mean, seriously, you guys need a hobby.

[Bolling]

They're that good. Gruber, if they're that good, they might as well just hack into my bank account instead. Or yours or whatever. Or Bannon. I mean, go. Go get Ban. He's got all the money in the world, right?

[Steve Gruber]

Yeah, go roll around in his money for a while. Just sit there and count it all day.

[Bolling]

We were talking in the break about back in the day, growing up in the Midwest.

[Steve Gruber]

We were.

[Bolling]

We're sharing stories about going across state lines. When Illinois went to 21, Wisconsin was still 18. All us 18 year olds used to drive up to Wisconsin and then very foolishly drive back. But somehow we made it right, Steve?

[Steve Gruber]

Somehow, you know, we survived. We didn't wear helmets on bicycles. We had banana seats on those bicycles my mother would never let me have. Banana seats are dangerous. Everybody's got them. I never got one of those, but, yeah, somehow we survived. Bowling, doing all sorts of crazy things without helmets, and, you know, we weren't in padded suits. Somehow we did it. Here we are. I love it.

[Bolling]

Their parents.

[Steve Gruber]

This is an I Heart podcast.