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This is what happens when you allow anti Semitism to run rampant inside your country. Thank goodness Donald Trump doesn't let that happen here. Also, with the Schumer shutdown in full effect, many employees of the federal government are not getting paid, all while lawmakers in Congress, well, they're collecting their paychecks. However, a movement is underway to dock lawmakers pay if a shutdown occurs again in the future. I support that. How about you? Ralph Norman will be here to discuss the congressman from South Carolina. And then later in a bit of good news for the economy. New housing sales soaring to their highest level and three years jumping 20% unexpectedly. That is good news. I bring on America's accountant Dan Gertrude to discuss that as well. All the details and updates coming your way today. But first, we start with this. As you know, the government has shut down day two thanks to the Democrat Party's insistence that illegal aliens get health care. And honestly, a lot more, a lot more. Other costly demands are on the list. Most of the Senate Democrats voted no on continuing this resolution because they refused to support it unless portions of the one big beautiful bill were repealed. Portions that eliminated waste, fraud and abuse in our health care systems being used by illegals, for example. It is yet another example of their America Last agenda. Here, by the way, is what Vice President J.D. vance said in response. Let's step back for a second because I think it's important for the American people to realize that the far left faction of Senate Democrats shut down the government because we wouldn't give them hundreds of billions of dollars for health care benefits for illegal aliens. It's actually not even all Senate Democrats. I was really gratified to see that a few of the moderate Senate Democrats voted with Senate Republicans last night to keep the government open. This is basically Chuck Schumer. Chuck Schumer, he's worried he's going to get a primary challenge from aoc and so he's shutting down the people's government to give in to sort of the left wing coalition and their party. And it's craziness and people are going to suffer because of it. I mean, people who benefit from low income food programs are going to suffer because of. If you're flying today, I hope of course you arrive safely and on time, but you may not arrive on time because the TSA and the air traffic controllers are not getting paid today. Our military is not getting paid today, starting today. And obviously the longer this drags on, the worse that it is for the American people. Well, we'll see. We'll see how bad it is as they continue to cut government programs. Democrats are going to regret doing this. Yeah, it's correctly being called the Schumer shutdown because Chuck Schumer is who is at fault here because he cannot control the radical left wing of his party. That's a fact. Here's the thing. Democrats understand deep down that an America Last agenda is deeply unpopular with the majority of Americans, especially those that vote. And actually two thirds of Americans say that the Democrats in Congress should never have forced the federal government to shut down if their demands weren't met. That according to a national poll that came out from the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times here recently. But Democrats realized decades ago that importing millions of illegal immigrants and giving them free stuff could be the future of their party. The only path forward. In fact, the only path forward. But they feel the need to lie about what they're doing. And lucky for them, they've got the backing of the mainstream media who will clear the way for their lies if possible. Here, for example, is Senator Schumer, I'm with Joe Scarborough over at Ms. Lsd. Listen, we need to clear this up because this is the lie that Republicans are using to try to, well, confuse their base. Lie to their base. Lie to the American people. Talk about the claim that Democrats are shutting down the government to give illegal immigrants health care benefits. Yep, Joe, you are right on the money. It's a total absolute effin lie. And why are they doing it? You talked about clicks and emotion. That's some of the reason. But I'll tell you the real reason. They're afraid of the truth. The real reason, Chuck, is you're afraid of aoc. That's a fact. The grift is unbelievable. Let's look at the facts, shall we? On your screen, the Democrats proposal for what they wanted in exchange for passing the continuing resolution, it demands a repeal of health subtitle changes. So what were those changes that were they were referencing? Well, take a look. It's the alien Medicaid eligibility that they wanted repealed. The text from the one big beautiful bill that clawed back funds used for illegal aliens and Medicaid, for example, your tax dollars were being used on people who came here to this country illegally and then refused to leave. And Democrats want it to continue. So much so, in fact, that they're willing to shut down the government over it and they're counting on the pundits to cover for them. And while people like Speaker Mike Johnson have to try to set the record straight over and over again, it gets tiresome. Here he is with the ever consistent Kaitlan Collins consistently left. That is here it is. You're saying they want to give free health care to people who are in the United States illegally. That is exactly what the effect will be. But when I looked at it, there's a little nuance because it's. They want to undo changes that y' all made narrowing. Who was eligible to get that? Those are people who are refugee seekers, asylum seekers. They're not technically people who are here illegally just cross the border. No, this is exactly what will happen. And Maxine Waters admitted, I think accidentally today on the House steps, they want to give health care to everybody. But Maxine Waters is not in charge. She's not the one she didn't write. She's one of the senior leaders in the House. And everybody should Google it and read their counterpart. You see my point, right? You're making this argument that they want to just give health care to everyone who's here illegally. This is not for people who cross the border and don't have paperwork. These are people who have temporary protected status. Right. Absolutely. What will happen if that counter proposal was enacted is illegal aliens would be paid for. American taxpayers. Hard earned dollars would be paying for benefits for illegal aliens. Again, we're not doing that. But it's against federal law for people who are here illegally to get. Yes, and that's why our reforms are so important to enforce all that. What the important thing to remember is what's happening at the Democratic proposal that people who are here legally. No. Because they don't have the level of specification that we had in our bill. It will unwind that and all those things that the CBO just verified will be reversed. We can't afford to do that. But you see my point that there's no. I don't argue that you're making. Right. No. That is a red herring in this. In this debate. It is a red herring event. He's right about that. Maxine Waters, by the way, has been in the game so long that she's letting the mask slip along with her mind, even while she's mad at being held accountable for her views. Listen to this one. So you're good with the government shutdown, even if it means giving health care to people who aren't American citizens. Well, you keep. That's what you're pushing on. What you're trying to do is you're standing here and you're trying to make me say that somehow we are going to put non citizens over Americans. Quit it. Stop it. This is the kind of journalism we don't need. You are divisive. No, you're not. You're being divisive. No, please don't. You don't need to ask that question. You're just trying to get controversy here. You're not going to get it from me. We want to save health care for all people. Thank you. You want an intelligent response, you're not getting it from me. Thank you, Maxine. We appreciate that. 61% of swing state voters said President Biden bears at least some responsibility for the migrant surge at the southern border. You see, it's a lot higher than. Also in those states, voters trust Trump more than they did Biden to handle immigration. Now the Republicans up by 22 points. Donald Trump is. The America Last strategy is turning voters away. Here's a good example, by the way. Professor Alan Dershowitz, of course, you know who he is, a lifelong Democrat who says, look, enough is enough. Go. I'm going to be supporting the Republicans in the midterm. Election. I'm hoping that the Republicans maintain control both of the House and the Senate. The last thing I want is Chuck Schumer to be head of the Senate or Liz Warren to be chairperson of a committee or AOC to be chairperson of a committee. The Democrats have not only lost my vote, but they have made me an enemy, essentially by how they've moved away from American values, Israeli values, and values of decency. So I'm not only no longer a Democrat, I'm not a Republican, but I am a very anti Democrat. I'm against the Democratic Party. I will do anything to see. Mom, Donnie defeated an anti Democrat. Well, that's new. I kind of like it. I hope more people come to their senses and join Professor Dershowitz. It's not hard to. When Democrats make ridiculous decisions. The name of virtue signaling stupid, frankly. How about the now former Des Moines school superintendent, Ian Roberts, Right? An all Democrat school board run, by the way, by Michelle Obama's former chief of staff, picked this guy as their school superintendent last year, put him in charge of the 30,000 kids, gave him a $300,000 salary, and then it turns out he was never in the country legally. He didn't have work authorization. And by the way, he's a criminal, too. Overstaying his visa in 1999. Was given a final notice of removal by an immigration judge in 2024, and previously charged with gun crimes. Wow. And when he was arrested last week, what did he have? A loaded Glock in his car, A fully illegal weapon in his hands as an illegal alien and as a convicted felon. Nice choice, Iowa. Nice work. But you know what's also troubling, just as troubling? Roberts last voted in Maryland, where he's been registered to vote since 2012. Last voted in Maryland, April 2025. This year. Neat trick. He's an illegal alien, not allowed to vote. And he was living, I assume, in Iowa where he worked. This is a big problem. Big problem. Listen. Well, they always say this never happens. And then. And then it happens. Delegate Matt Morgan says non citizens voting in Maryland elections has long worried Republican lawmakers. The state board election really never cleans its voter rolls. So there could be thousands of people on here. We have no idea. Following a state audit in 2023 finding over 2,400 potentially deceased voters. Voters and more than 300 duplicate registrations on Maryland's voting rolls in 2025. The DOJ requesting the state's voter registration data instead. Maryland's state Administrator of Elections writing back, demanding to first know Quote, whether the voter registration list would be used for enforcement of immigration laws against Maryland residents. Why wouldn't you want to turn over the voter rolls for that? How is immigration enforcement using our voter rolls? I mean, obviously that means there's multiple people that are registered to vote. So it's illegal for him to vote. But he did. Illegal for him to hold that job. But he did. Republicans have been warning about this sort of thing, this very thing. The Democrats tell us, oh, it never happens. This doesn't happen. Yeah, just like we're not spending billions on health care for illegals. Right. It's also illegal for any illegal to drive a commercial vehicle. And yet Oklahoma discovered that it's happening in fact all the time and all over the country because of blue state policies. Oklahoma highway patrol arrested 120 people, 120 people for being in the country illegally during a three day operation on I40. And not just that, 90 of those folks had CDLs, commercial driver's licenses from states like California, New York, Pennsylvania, Illinois. In fact, one in four of the people they pulled over in the country illegally. One in four, then the majority of those were driving 80,000 pound vehicles on roads with you and me. Don't we deserve to get home safe tonight? I mean, they don't know our laws cannot read the road signs. You know, like what happened in Florida back in August, that horrible crash that killed all those people. It's no wonder the Democrats and their policies are losing support because they encourage asinine ideas like this. They say they don't, but then they encourage violence against ICE and DHS and label me a fascist for wanting to enforce immigration law. Right. Democrats will keep pushing unpopular positions if they think it gives them moral superiority or if they think they can go on cnn, Ms. LSD and call us bigots and fascists and get no pushback. Well, it's despicable. It's wildly unpopular. And I hope that 100 million more Alan Dershowitz join the ranks of Americans who say, you know what? No, enough really is enough. Coming up after the break, I'll continue the discussion on the Schumer shutdown. Has a nice ring to it, doesn't it? And a growing effort to dock lawmakers pay when shutdowns do occur. Yeah, you want to shut down the government and make federal employees wait for their paychecks. Well, then you don't get paid either. More of that coming up next. The U.S. electric grid is approaching a breaking point as demand soars from data centers and home energy use. Our aging infrastructure can't keep up and the Department of Energy warns that without action, blackouts could surge 100 fold by 2030. The good news? One solution is already here. Propane. It's American made, stored on site and always ready. Powering homes and businesses with cleaner, reliable energy that doesn't depend on the grid or the weather. Learn more@probane.com Take a deep dive into the stories making the news headlines across the world. The News Agents we're not just here to tell you what's happening, but why? 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See mintmobile.com When I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked why Benghazi? The truth became a web of lies. It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory. Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre? Bad faith, political warfare and frankly, bullshit. We kill the ambassador just to cover something up. You put two and two together. Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy? Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years. I'm Leon Naifak from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries. This is Fiasco Benghazi. What difference at this point does it make? Yeah, that's right. Lock her up. Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Ben Ferguson. And I'm Ted Cruz. Three times a week we do our podcast Verdict with Ted Cruz. Nationwide, we have millions of listeners. Every Monday, Wednesday and Friday, we Break down the news and bring you behind the scenes inside the White House, inside the Senate, inside the United States Supreme Court. And we cover the stories that you're not getting anywhere else. We arm you with the facts to be able to know and advocate for the truth with your friends and family. So download Verdict with Ted Cruz now, wherever you get your podcasts. Well, as you know, all but three Senate Democrats voted to shut the government down. They needed five more. Gotta have 60 votes to avoid the filibuster, which of course would stop it anyway. The one guy that can't vote is Chuck Schumer. He can't vote for the government to stay open because AOC is going to eat his lunch. Yeah, Chuck and his fellow Democrats are more concerned about health care for illegals, all provided by you, of course, the American taxpayer. Also, it shows that Chuck and other Democrats, they don't care about the 2 million plus government employees who won't get a paycheck right now because of the shutdown. He gets paid either way. See a problem. Thankfully, efforts to rectify this problem are now in the works. Congressman Ralph Norman of South Carolina, our good friend here, has announced that he has reintroduced. I can't believe you had to go through this twice. He has reintroduced a proposal for a constitutional amendment to dock federal lawmakers pay when shutdowns occur, providing an incentive, you know, to do your job for Democrats and Republicans and all lawmakers to keep the government open. He's here to discuss it now. Congressman Ralph Norman. Sir, nice to see you again. Great to be with you, Steve. You know, seems pretty commonsensical if, if one person in government's not getting paid. I mean, we're going to pay our soldiers, we're going to pay our border patrol. But if, if. Well, let me ask you this, sir, because I think I have an idea what many Americans say, Are you an essential worker or a non essential worker and should you get paid? Yeah. I would make the argument that Congress is non essential. I would make the argument that for every American who is listening to this, who's viewing. In the case of that plumber who doesn't go to work, does he get paid? In the case of that salon owner who is fixing hair, does she get paid? She doesn't go to work. I mean, it's pretty simple in the business community, I think most Americans feel that way and Congress should be no different. We ought to set the example instead of still getting our paycheck when hardworking Americans, military, police officers, first responders are not getting theirs. So it's pretty basic and pretty common sense to me. It is pretty common sense. And look this idea, and there's this argument back and forth and I saw Speaker Johnson on a number of programs correcting the record over and over again. Well, illegals can't get paid, you know, these benefits they do. It's that part of fraud, the word fraud. When you have waste, fraud and abuse, it's that big word in the middle. It's called fraud, folks. Billions of dollars are fraudulently sent out to illegals for a variety of government programs every year. Not just health care, but other things. I mean that's the bottom line here, is that we're trying to prevent this from happening by strengthening the rules and making sure the laws are tough enough to prevent it from happening and save the American taxpayer a lot of money. Right, right. And the beauty of the Doge Commission and what Elon Musk did was identify for Americans where their money was being wasted. And you know, when an illegal gets a government paycheck, basically money we don't have and that we're borrowing, that's wrong. The $1.5 trillion that the Democrats want to spend for the next 52 days, which amounts to $29 billion a day, is ludicrous. The President is doing the right thing to hold the line on this and it's going to end up. It is a Schumer shutdown, but it's the entire Democrat party shutdown for this country which they own. They own it lock, stock and barrel. They sure do. And the fact of the matter is, I mean, let's just cut to the chase here. Chuck Schumer could not vote against the shutdown because if he did, he was certain to get primaried by aoc who by the way, I think is going to primary him anyway. I don't think it matters. She's going to primary him anyway because she smells blood in the water. She's got a bunch of money coming in. Chuck Schumer's dancing like a puppet on the string of the far left. It's pretty obvious, isn't it? Well, not only is it obvious, but you know, look at what he's actually doing. He's putting his self interest, his reelection, he is not wanting to have any type of an opponent above the American people. You know, it's so self serving. It's so egotistical. It's so the American people see it for what it is. And you know, he is what's wrong with politics. He's been in too long, but now he's crossed the threshold. And I hope, you know, there's going to be some good to come out of this in the fact of, you know, the rifts that we're going to be able to deem. And by the way, Russ Vaught and Dan Bishop are doing a tremendous job. They're going to cut more needless regulations and needless things that should have been cut and deemed non essential and get it so that permanently off the government payrolls. You know, the Democrats may rue the day that they made this decision, but right now they seem pretty happy about it. Here's one of your soon to be former colleagues, Sri Tanadar of Michigan, celebrating the fact that yes, we're going to shut the government down. Listen to this. Returning back to Detroit this morning after the Republicans failed to show up in the US House. We got to make sure Americans have the health care that they need. And if that means we got to shut this government down, so be it. If we have to shut this government down, so be it. There it is. You know, for people say, well, they didn't do it intentionally. Yes, they did. Go ahead. Yes. What he's saying is we want health care for illegals that came illegally in this country. We want to keep the bloated, the waste, fraud, abuse that is the cancer in America today. Keep it going. That's the Democrat Party today and we're seeing it in their candidates, we're seeing it in their policy and we're seeing it front and center stage over what they're doing now. And the other thing, Steve, they don't know who they're dealing with with Donald Trump. As he told Zelensky, they don't have the cards and the Democrats don't have the cards with what they're doing. They think they do, but they don't. And the dealer with a man who, who is going to ride them out and do the right thing and it's right for America and the Democrats will pay a price. There you go. Before I let you go, of course you're running for governor in South Carolina. For anybody who didn't know, I understand your campaign raised an impressive $1.3 million in the most recent quarter. That's pretty, a pretty good haul. People are coming out of the woodwork, Steve. And I say that because we had over 1,000 people at my announcement on July 27th. In a short 40 some days, we've raised $800,000. And it's people are given to this campaign. They know the conservatism that I've done in Washington and I'll do in South Carolina. And that's what they're thirsty for. So it's a great campaign and so glad I'm doing it. Yeah. South Carolina has be kind of, as we've talked about before on this program, one of the hottest destinations for people to move, not just to go on vacation, they do that, but to move and set up their homes there and their businesses there. So it needs stewardship. We wish you very well in that race. If people want to know about what you're doing, where do they find you? Ralph Norman for governor dot com. There you have it. Congressman, maybe. Governor, nice to see you as always. Thank you, Steve. Always enjoy. Appreciate it. Thank you very much. All right. After the break, I bring on America's accountant in Gertrude to discuss the housing markets as well as the markets in general, setting all time records, especially during this government shutdown. You think the markets will go down? Nah, they're rocking. The US Electric grid is approaching a breaking point as demand soars from data centers and home energy use. Our aging infrastructure can't keep up. And the Department of Energy warns that without action, blackouts could surge 100 fold by 2030. The good news, one solution is already here. Propane. It's American made, stored on site and always ready, powering homes and businesses with cleaner, reliable energy that doesn't depend on the grid or the weather. Learn more@probane.com Take a deep dive into the stories making the news headlines across the world. The News Agents. We're not just here to tell you what's happening, but why? From me, Emily Maitlis and me, John Sopel with Global's award winning podcast, the News Agents Dropping daily, covering everything you need to know about politics and current affairs and The News Agents USA listening to the Newsagents on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Open your free iHeart app and search the newsagents to start listening. When I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes or just asked why Benghazi? The truth became a web of lies. It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory. Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre? Bad faith, political warfare and frankly, bullshit. We kill the ambassador just to cover something up. You put two and two together. Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy? Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years. I'm Leon Nefak from Prologue projects and Pushkin Industries. This is Fiasco Benghazi. What difference at this point does it make? Yes, that's right. Lock her up. Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Ben Ferguson. And I'm Ted Cruz. Three times a week we do our podcast Verdict with Ted Cruz. Nationwide, we have millions of listeners. Every Monday, Wednesday and Friday, we break down the news and bring you behind the scenes inside the White House, inside the Senate, inside the United States Supreme Court. And we cover the stories that you're not getting anywhere else. We arm you with the facts to be able to know and advocate for the truth with your friends and family. So download Verdict with Ted Cruz now, wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah, don't worry about me. I'm just checking all the markets here. I do it every day, several times a day, usually checking the gold price, the silver price, what's going on in the markets. And the markets are rocking. Good news for the economy there. Plus, real estate improvements, new home sales surge of their highest level in three and a half years, up 20%. More homes on the market, prices dropping. Mortgage rates are stabilizing below 7%. Finally, and it looks to me like we could see a reduction again of 25 to 50 basis points before the end of October. We'll see if that's true. It would help the economy if it were. Joining me now, the founder of Geltrude and Company, America's accountant, Dan Geltrude. Dan, nice to see you here on the program. I'm looking at the numbers here, dan. The Dow 46, 560 and change, the S and P, all of them. The NASDAQ doing well. Gold not quite going to break 4,000. It got close here. It's backed off just a touch here today. But man, everything bitcoins up today. Every place I look today, there's positive news. Where would I go wrong today? Well, how about that, you know, if the markets are upset about a federal government shutdown, they have a funny way of showing it, don't they? I think when you look at what's happening here, the markets are figuring, look, this is just all political posturing. We have shutdown fatigue and at some point in time a deal will be struck. A lot of experts out there are predicting in about a two week time frame. And if you look at the last five times that the government has shut down, the markets have gone up. So clearly the markets are not too upset at this point, I think as long as it's not a long term protracted shutdown, hey, the market's full steam ahead. It is full steam ahead. Now, to be fair, ADP yesterday put out a just a little pump the brakes moment here, Dan. ADP put out yesterday that their payroll numbers had dropped by 32,000 last month. ADP being a payroll company, so they know who's working and they work for other companies. For anybody who doesn't know 32,000, it came down. Is that of concern to you? Yeah, it is. And let me tell you what I think we're going to start seeing related to these job numbers. We are in the midst of an industrial revolution, and that industrial revolution relates to AI, artificial intelligence. And I think what we're seeing here is it's getting some traction. There are not as many jobs out there as there were because a lot of jobs are being replaced by AI. Now, the trick is, how are we going to take the workforce and have them evolve into different work responsibilities? But there's no question about the fact that, you know, the world is changing not, not just in the United States, but globally. So there's going to be some challenges here and it would be foolish not to recognize that's what's happening. So we got to keep our eyes on that one, Steve. Well, you sure do. Here's the thing about, you know, revolutions, when it comes, people always say, well, my God, everybody's gonna lose their job, everybody's gonna be unemployed. What usually happens, historically speaking, is that the new technology actually opens the door for more jobs, more higher paying jobs, more opportunities for, for everybody. That's the way it's always worked. We got rid of the horse and carriage, Henry Ford, put other stuff on the road, as you all know. Let me ask you something though, as America's accountant, Dan, speaking of people that get put out of business, if you have AI, do I still need my accountant? It's a serious question. Not picking on you. It's a serious question. Well, and let me tell you, that's a question that I've been thinking about. Right? So now what happens with AI related to what happens with tax preparation and other things, Right? So what we're seeing here is, is that accountants are not going to be replaced. I believe accountants who don't use AI are going to be replaced. So the accounting profession has to learn how to evolve. Just like you were making reference to. There will be new opportunities. So you take AI, you use the benefit of that to help your clients. Right. Minimize taxes. Legally, I mean, that's the name. So. So for those who are ready to evolve, whether it's in accounting or in other professions, that's what you need to do to be able to operate in what will become a new account economy down the road. Dan, good talking to you. I like an optimist, by the way. I appreciate the big smile on your face like an optimist. Good stuff happening. And you know, you got to call an audible sometimes and change the play. And that's a fact. And that's what you just said. Dan, thank you for being here. Here. Thank you. Appreciate it. All right. Good man. I realize there are many choices, by the way, when it comes to who you choose for your cell phone service. And there are new ones. You know, they pop up all the time. You see it. But here's the truth. There's only one that boldly stands in the gap for every American that believes that freedom is worth fighting for. That, of course, are my friends at Patriot Mobile. 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He's currently in Orlando, Florida, attending the International Christian Visual Media Storytellers Conference. This could be interesting. It's sponsored by our friends at Angel SP Studios as well. We'll be right back. The US Electric grid is approaching a breaking point. As demand soars from data centers and home energy use. Our aging infrastructure can't keep up. And the Department of Energy warns that without action, Blackouts could surge 100 fold by 2030. The good news? One solution is already here. Propane. It's American made, stored on site and always ready, powering homes and businesses with cleaner, reliable energy that doesn't depend on the grid or the weather. Learn more@probane.com Take a deep dive into the stories making the news headlines across the world. The news agents. We're not just here to tell you what's happening, but why? From me, Emily Maitlis. And me, John Sopel with Global's award winning podcast, the News agents dropping daily, covering everything you need to know about politics and current affairs. And the news agents us listening to the news agents on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Open your free iHeart app and search the newsagents to start listening. When I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked why Benghazi? The truth became a web of lies. It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory. Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre? Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit. We kill the ambassador just to cover something up. You put two and two together. Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy? Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years. I'm Leon Naifak from Prologue projects and Pushkin Industries. This is Fiasco Benghazi. What difference at this point does it make? Yes, that's right. Lock her up. Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Ben Ferguson. And I'm Ted Cruz. Three times a week we do our podcast Verdict with Ted Cruz. Nationwide, we have millions of listeners. Every Monday, Wednesday and Friday, we break down the news and bring you behind the scenes inside the White House, inside the Senate, inside the United States Supreme Court. And we cover the stories that you're not getting anywhere else. We arm you with the facts to be able to know and advocate for the truth with your friends and family. So download Verdict with Ted Cruz now, wherever you get your podcasts. Well, as you know, Hollywood's been a. I don't know the word. Maybe it's been a cesspool. That's a good word. Of liberalism and leftist ideology for decades. So much so that Christian filmmakers have found it hard to get Christian based films to the American people. But when they do, man, they do great. That's all changing, mostly because of Angel Studios these days. A community driven media company that creates and distributes uplifting and family friendly entertainment, including films and shows with a focus on stories that amplify the light and not the dark. And right now, they're sponsoring an event called the International Christian Visual Media Storytellers Conference. It's a collection of creators, filmmakers who make Christian content and submit that content for consideration. Thanks to Angel Studios, these creators and filmmakers have a fighting chance to get their stories out there for Americans and literally everybody around the world to enjoy. Here'll be discuss this real America's Voice correspondent, my friend Bo Davidson. Bo, nice to see you. Good to see too, Steve. So you're, you're at the conference. Tell us what it's all about. I mean this is a big opportunity and it comes at a time, by the way, and I bring this to your attention when Elon Musk is saying I need to have an alternative to Netflix. People have had all the Hollywood they can take, whether it's Angel Studios or Elon Musk or you and me for that matter. Tell us about it. Well, that's true, Steve. I mean this is the International Christian Visual Media Storytellers Conference. People come here that create Christian content. And why do they do that? Well, as you aptly stated, Steve, because they need an alternative. Elon Musk and others have said we need an alternative. When you look at series like the Chosen and Sound of Freedom who have basically upended the entire Hollywood model, you do have a choice now. And I'll tell you this, Steve, inside that conference right now are hundreds and hundreds of storytellers, people who want faith based content because they need an alternative. They're sick of what they've seen in Hollywood. They're sick of transgender ideology and woke DEI in their products. And everybody here wants to get a piece of angel because they know angel has a guild that's just like the television academy. The difference is, is that two or three people can't say to you, oh, we don't want to make this project or we do, because who knows what it is. It's a guild of over a million people, like minded people who want to see better content. And they do you know how effective is Angel? Here's what I would tell you, folks. When Sound of Freedom came out, that was the most lied about film I've ever experienced my life because I was being told all of these things, all these, and I go see the film. It is absolutely nothing as it was being portrayed on MSNBC or Chicken Noodle News in the New York Times or anywhere the left, the left leaning media went crazy to attack. That film was a film about stopping human trafficking. It was a powerful film about stopping human trafficking and the left just lied about it. I guess we're over the target. Yeah, but consider this, Steve. Disney had that film. 20th Century Fox bought that film. They shelved it. So it was going nowhere. And so finally the little studio that could, Angel Studios, comes out with it with a completed project and it blows out the box office records. Why? Because it's one thing, a tremendously well made film with Jim Caviezel and some excellent people in it, but it also called attention to an issue that nobody was talking about, or if they were, it was only on the right. And so I was just talking to Kelly Shelton, who's the vice president of marketing of Angel. He said we'd go do interviews, Steve abroad, and the first question we'd be asked is all about attacking Tim Ballard or attacking a particular investor in it that was accused of. Of child abuse. Someone who gave $50. And it wasn't even a true story. So it goes to show you, they didn't care what the project was about or whether it was good or not. They just attacked it. Because why? Because it gave issue to. Gave rise to what's happening in at the Border. Yeah, exactly. Right. Speaking of Disney, I just saw a story here today. This will give people a little bit of hope here today too. Disney, Disney World. You're there in Orlando today for this deal. It's being called a ghost town. It has the lowest attendance since the height of COVID Right now. Does Disney World in Orlando? People have had it with all this woke nonsense. Well, but before we get too far down the road here, I do have to say I understand that one of the films being showcased has you in one of the roles. Can you tell me about this deal? That's. That's actually true. It is kind of an interesting confluence of events. It's called Mendel's Messiah. I don't know if you have a little clip there of it. I'm dressed up as our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. It's actually written by messianic Jews who created this wonderful musical that's been off Broadway for 40 years and they finally turned it into a film. It's one of the projects that's being showcased here for distribution. And it just goes to show you this type of content is content. I'm not even saying this because I meant it. I'm just saying it's content people crave. And it's the. It's the retelling of the gospel in a way that hasn't really been done before about a modern Jewish man who's wondering, why is my candy shop being vandalized with anti Semitic graffiti. And he asked God, why is this happening to my people? And he gets to go back in time and see the life of Yeshua, of Jesus happened before his very eyes. So this is the type of content that studios like Angel Kingdom Story, Pinnacle Peak are wanting and they're going to give it to the people. Steve. Because the market is there. It certainly is. And you get to see BO which is, you know, priceless in a way. Right? No, it's important work. I'm really proud and I'm glad that real America's Voice is partnering with Angel. I am. It's a great relationship to have with a group of people that are, like you said, the little can do studio. Not so little anymore. Getting a lot of momentum. Both. Thank you. You got it. And go to angel.comshrap for those guild memberships. There you go. Angel.com rev it's kind of fun, right? Don't go anywhere. America's Voice Live will continue after a moment. The US Electric grid is approaching a breaking point. As demand soars from data centers and home energy use. Our aging infrastructure can't keep up. And the Department of Energy warns that without action, blackouts could surge 100 fold by 2030. The good news? One solution is already here. Propane. It's American made, stored on site and always ready. Powering homes and businesses with cleaner, reliable energy that doesn't depend on the grid or the weather. Learn more@probane.com Take a deep dive into the stories making the news headlines across the world. The News agents. We're not just here to tell you what's happening, but why from me, Emily Maitlis and me, John Sopel with Global's award winning podcast, the News Agents dropping daily, covering everything you need to know about politics and current affairs. And the newsagents USA listening to the newsagents on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Open your free iHeart app and search the newsagents to start listening. When I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes or just asked, why Benghazi? The truth became a web of lies. It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory. Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre? Bad faith, political warfare and frankly, bullshit. We kill the ambassador just to cover something up. You put two and two together. Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy? Benghazi is a Rosetta stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years. I'm Leon Neyfak from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries. This is Fiasco Benghazi. What difference at this point does it make? Yes, that's right. Lock her up. Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Ben Ferguson. And I'm Ted Cruz. Three times a week we do our podcast Verdict with Ted Cruz. Nationwide, we have millions of listeners. Every Monday, Wednesday and Friday, we break down the news and bring you behind the scenes inside the White House, inside the Senate, inside the United States Supreme Court. And we cover the stories that you're not getting anywhere else. We arm you with the facts to be able to know and advocate for the truth with your friends and family. So download Verdict with Ted Cruz now wherever you get your podcasts. All right. With the government shutting down, no denying that Americans are looking for for alternative means to currency in the event that the shutdown becomes prolonged. And one of the best ways to ensure you have a lifeline even when events like this happens, is gold. And the folks at Birch Gold aim to give customers an accessible means to acquiring it. Join me now discusses precious metal specialist Philip Patrick. Phil, nice to see you again. Good to see you as always, Steve. We were just looking, you know, it hasn't quite broken 4000 because I think when it does, it's going to take another jump forward. That's just my guess. You're the expert. You've been watching this for a while. Gold has said how many all time records in 2025 already it's over 35. It's like seemingly day on day on day. New records. Gold now 40% for the year. Silver's close to 60% for the year. So they are moving and I don't think they're going to slow down anytime soon given everything that's happening both domestically with the economy and globally. You know, it's remarkable and I'll stay with both metals. With Silver in 1980, Bunky Hunt cornered the market. For anybody who's old enough to remember, we could see numbers for silver that surpassed for the first time where it was pushed when the market was cornered in 1980. This is a remarkable market for metal. It absolutely is. You mentioned the Hunt brothers. They drove it up. It was the biggest silver manipulation move in history. In the 80s, they drove it up to $48. We're seeing, by the way, JP Morgan did something between 2011 and 2019 that I think a few of their Traders got wrapped on the knuckles. For now we're starting to see silver really move. And like you said, it's now breached those all time highs of 48 bucks. And I think that's an important resistance point for silver to move forward. Let's not forget silver is becoming more important. It's been used historically in electronics, in medical, but now solar technology, electric cars, AI chips heavily reliant on it. So demand is increasing and we're still consuming more silver annually in the US than we can mine. So fundamentals are looking really good for silver. Yeah, masterminds. But to store wealth, silver takes up a lot more space. I mean just to be physically, you know, the logistics of silver are different than the logistics of gold. If you want to store wealth, it takes up a lot less room to put gold in your safe, real physical gold, so you can protect it and protect your wealth. That's really what people need to do here. And then think about, right? Oh absolutely. Looking in an era of huge debt deficit spending, we've got borrowing costs increasing even though the Fed are lowering rates. There are red flags everywhere. And I think a monetary hedge is key. Gold is that monetary hedge. It's also, as you rightly point out, far less cumbersome. I tell people you can put a million dollars of gold in a shoebox, million dollars of silver is a small shoe store. So finding that balance, I think both are good. Yeah, that's exactly right. Now I like to have some of both, but yeah, small shoe store is pretty, pretty accurate. When they shut down the government like this, do they really save any money or do they just end up paying it back later and therefore it creates more problems down the road. How does it really work? It's basically what you said. The best researcher I've seen from the Committee for a responsible Federal government say that shutdowns add costs. Obviously they don't say because of planning overhead, loss fees, contractor premiums. Look at the last big One we had, 2018 to 2019, it was a 35 day shutdown. It was the longest ever. The CBO pegged losses in the billions of dollars. So it's a combination of higher costs and lower economic growth. And the latter's key, uncertainty drags the economy as well. Goldman Sachs analysts projected that a government wide shutdown reduces economic growth by about 15 basis points a day. So going back to that 2018, 2019 shutdown, they estimated it took about a percentage of GDP, which is significant. So look, the worst thing we can do at the moment is signal to creditors we'll take your money, but we don't want to pay you back. That's the big concern. Credibility risk, I think is the big issue for the United States today. It's partly why debt service is increasing in a climate of lower rates. I sure hope Fort Knox is full because that would help us a wee bit here in the country. Given all of this, what is the prudent move for people who want to protect themselves right now? You and I have been talking about it. You said it yourself. I think it's a case of having a store of wealth outside of the dollar. I am one of President Trump's biggest fans. As you know, he has got a tough job and he is doing a great job, but it is a very tough job. What he inherited. When it comes to money supply, debt and deficits, no nation in world history is recovered from. So I think like central banks around the world, we need to have a hedge in place. I think to have everything exposed to the dollar today in the position we are in creates a lot of risk. So I think it's just a case of hedging your exposure. Remember, gold goes up when the dollar goes down. There's a reason gold's moving 40% in a year. That's not what gold does. Historically, these are different times. The dollar is weak and therefore gold and silver soar. Philip Patrick, always appreciate it, sir. Thank you for being here. All right. You can diversify your savings today and store of wealth by texting the word America to the number 98989. Claim your FREE information kit on gold today. For my good friends at Birch Gould there, text America to 9,898. 98. Claim your free information kit on gold. And when people say, is it too late? Did I miss the well, yeah, until it goes to 5,000 an ounce or 6,000 an ounce or who knows. Right after the break, we'll have a story that reminds us of just how wonderful America is. Plus, your answers to our America's Voice question of the day. Do you support docking lawmakers pay during government shutdown? Why or why not? The US Electric grid is approaching a breaking point. As demand soars from data centers and home energy use. Our aging infrastructure can't keep up. And the Department of Energy warns that without action, blackouts could surge 100 fold by 2030. The good news, one solution is already here. Propane. It's American made, stored on site and always ready, powering homes and businesses with with cleaner, reliable energy that doesn't depend on the grid or the weather. Learn more@probane.com Take a deep dive into the stories making the news headlines across the world. The News Agents. We're not just here to tell you what's happening, but why? From me, Emily Maitlis. And me, John Sopel with Global's award winning podcast, the News Agents dropping daily, covering everything you need to know about politics and current affairs. And The News Agents USA listening to the Newsagents on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Open your free iHeart app and search the News agents to start listening. When I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked why Benghazi? The truth became a web of lies. It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory. Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre? Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit. We kill the ambassador just to cover something up. You put two and two together. Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy? Benghazi is a Rosetta stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years. I'm Leon Neyfak from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries. This is Fiasco Benghazi. What difference at this point does it make? Yes, that's right. Lock her up. Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Ben Ferguson. And I'm Ted Cruz. Three times a week we do our podcast, Verdict with Ted Cruz. Nationwide, we have millions of listeners. Every Monday, Wednesday and Friday, we break down the news and bring you behind the scenes inside the White House, inside the Senate, inside the United States Supreme Court. And we cover the stories that you're not getting anywhere else. We arm you with the facts to be able to know and advocate for the truth with your friends and family. So download Verdict with Ted Cruz now. Wherever you get your podcasts. What makes America wonderful? We do this every day, as you know. It'll put a smile on your face, maybe some hope in your heart. We live in a great country. I don't want you to forget it. So today's story comes to us from Peachtree City, Georgia, where a teenager stopped two German shepherds from attacking her neighbor with an unexpected tool. Clever Christy Maxwell recounts that she had gone out to walk her dog and was approached by two German shepherds. Giving it the benefit of the doubt, Maxwell assumed the two canines were just curious. But the reality of the aggression started to Set in when they began circling her and her dog. That's when the heroine of our story, 17 year old sailor Ziegler, stepped in and says that instinct took over. She opened the trunk of her car, retrieved a makeup mirror to drive the dogs away. You see, ultimately Ziggler was able to drive the dogs away and not only showed courage, but adaptability when what she had was a mirror on hand. And stories like these remind us of what makes America wonderful by being innovative. Innovative. All right, here is your question of the day. Do you support docking lawmakers pay during government shutdowns? I think I could probably gauge the answers here. The why or why not part. Fuzzle. Fuzzle Rights don't work. No pay I don't get if I don't get paid. If I don't work. Do you go to work and say, my name is Fuzzle? I know you don't, Uriah. Yes. I would even go further. Stop all pay until they do the 12 appropriation bills and balance the budget. Well, they'll never get paid. Free Girl has this just. Doc, the lawmakers who voted no. Well, you know, you win as a team, you lose as a team. Dock them all. Peer pressure is an important thing, Joe Hogan. Yes, it's their job to run the government. And if they can't, then they shouldn't get paid. You know, we were talking about this earlier. If you're in a company, you're in the private sector, you don't do your job. Are you getting a paycheck? No. You might be getting fired, right? I mean, come on. And S writes. Yes, Doc, Their pay. If they knew their paycheck stopped too, they may be more willing to find common ground instead of grant saying. I've always said, by the way, whatever they vote for in Congress should absolutely apply to them. You know, they make some laws that don't apply to them on occasion. That's not acceptable. Anything that applies, applies across the board to every citizen in this country. Mama Turbo. Mama Turbo. What's your name? My name is Mama Turbo. Okay, sure it is. Yes, Steve. Absolutely docked their pay. And when the term is over, all pay and benefits should stop too. They need to work for our money. You know, there are states in this country that only have the legislature every other year. Maybe that would work in Washington too. Every other year. The rest of time just go away. Exquisite mind. Yes, doctor. Pay and put them on affordable health care with the rest of us. Yeah, you get the aca. Stanley Gungru. Yes. And in fact, I'm honestly curious as to why we need them anyhow? They don't do anything productive except line their pockets with our money. Truth to that. All right, we'll leave it there. Remember to follow me on all the social media platforms, all the normal places, you know, X, Facebook, Truth, Instagram, wherever. That way you can get the question today and you can hear it right here. Don't forget to start your day with me either, here in Real America's Voice. I kick it off at 6 in the morning, so if you're up and you got a cup of coffee like this one, well, then you can join and get your first bit of information from real America's voice. 6:00am Every morning, the Steve Gruber Show. And if you want great news in the afternoon, well, you got Eric Bolling standing by, red and ready. He is. All rested, tanned, ready to go. There he is. Good looking fellow, that. That bowling. Where'd he go? Hey, Wisconsin at Michigan on Saturday. Are you kidding me? This is gonna be a great game. 17 and a half. I'm laying the wood, as they say. I'm giving 17. I'm taking your. I mean, go blue. Let's go blue on Saturday. By the way, I think it's a 40. 52 over. I take the over. I take the over and I take the over on that. And your Michigan Wolverines. Yeah, I'm loving that kid game. Yeah, yeah, I definitely take the over on that. Weather looks good for the day. I would not take the Tigers. What are we about, about an hour into the game now? Game three with Cleveland. And it been a tough year for baseball, but football's good. I, you know, I don't. Are you a betting man, bowling? Do you like to lay a little money here and there? You don't even understand how much a betting man I am. I want. I'm just all about. Yeah, I am all about. Then, you know, speaking of kitty cats, the Detroit, Detroit Lions are going to give 10 to Cincinnati. That's a lot of points in the NFL. I'm thinking about Cincinnati. Yeah, I'm just thinking about that one. No offense. Yeah, well, I just looked up the Tigers here. They're. They're. It's a best of three there. It's a one one split in the best of three. They're up by one run. Right, but that's what they've done every game with Cleveland. They can't beat Cleveland. I don't know why. Makes my. Makes me crazy anyhow. Mistake by the lake, isn't that what it's called? I think that's what they call it Flats is a pretty cool place. So the Flats right there in Lake Erie, great place, great restaurants, great bars, great atmosphere, great everything. So I'm going to give Cleveland, I'm going to give them a break here today on the program and say sorry to the folks in Ohio. Everybody except the Ohio State fans. Everybody else gets a, you know, and I'm sorry. So I hope you're wearing one of those Wolverine helmets on Saturday for me, Stephen, in honor of my 17 and a half half points I'm giving to Wisconsin, I got to tell you about this game changing product. 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