AMERICA'S VOICE LIVE WITH STEVE GRUBER - SEPTEMBER 19TH, 2025

Summary

America’s Voice Live with Steve Gruber – September 19, 2025

Podcast: Real America’s Voice | Host: Steve Gruber | Date: September 19, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on the aftermath of Charlie Kirk’s assassination and the profound resurgence of faith, patriotism, and activism across America, especially among the youth. Steve Gruber and several guests delve into the "American Revival" spurred by Kirk’s legacy, the explosive growth of Turning Point USA, shifts in political attitudes, new civics education initiatives, and broader struggles over America’s cultural and ideological trajectory. The tone is passionate, urgent, and rooted in themes of national crisis and hope for renewal.

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1. The American Revival in the Wake of Tragedy

[00:25 – 03:57]

• Steve Gruber opens by framing the current moment as an "American Revival" following Charlie Kirk’s assassination. He emphasizes a massive outpouring of grief, purpose, and renewed activism.
• "Like I said before, a bullet cannot kill an idea. It cannot kill free speech. And that's what Charlie Kirk was all about." (Steve Gruber, [01:36])
• Massive explosion of Turning Point USA (TPUSA): Pre-assassination, TPUSA had 900 college and 1200 high school chapters. In the 9 days since, they’ve received over 65,000 applications for new chapters.
• Charlie's widow, Erica Kirk, is announced as the new TPUSA CEO. “Everyone close to Charlie agreed that it’s what he would have wanted, no question.” (Steve Gruber, [02:36])
• Political climate radically shifts: Trump’s approval rises from 48% to 53% post-assassination.

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2. Political Impact: Trump, the GOP, and the "Fourth Turning"

Guest: Mark Mitchell, Head Pollster at Rasmussen Reports
[03:57 – 14:16]

Polling Shifts & Societal Change

• Trump achieves the highest approval numbers at this stage among the last four presidencies.
• “In four days, he's gone plus nine [approval points]… America immediately woke up, saw the signal right away.” (Mark Mitchell, [04:25])

Assassination as a Watershed Moment

• Gruber compares Kirk's assassination to that of Martin Luther King Jr.: “I can think of nothing in the interim that has had this kind of an impact.” ([05:50])
• “Charlie Kirk’s assassination might have been the opening shot of the war for the worldview of America. And I applaud it because it’s a required part of cleaning up our institutions…” (Mark Mitchell, [06:36])

Generational Dynamics

• Gen Z is more radical than perceived: “They believe in wealth confiscation by a majority. They want industries nationalized, they want income caps…” (Mark Mitchell, [10:12])
• Social media creates echo chambers but also reveals some are shifting right in real time: “Post after post saying ‘I was a Democrat. I'm appalled… I'm moving to the right and become a Republican.’” (Steve Gruber, [11:22])
• Warnings about "dark back alleys of the Internet" (Reddit, Discord, etc.) exerting Marxist influence, and the need for vigilance with youth online.
• “This is a fight for the soul. When they say it’s a fight for the soul of the country, it really is.” (Steve Gruber, [13:54])

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3. The Revival of Faith: The Charlie Kirk Effect

Guest: Lucas Miles, Director of Turning Point Faith
[16:04 – 19:41]

Turning Point’s Resilience & Purpose

• Staff is grieving but energized: “We're loving on each other. We’re taking moments to cry and to hug. But we’re also getting back to work.” (Lucas Miles, [16:05])
• Anticipation for Kirk’s memorial in Phoenix, expected to be “one of the most historic television events of all time.”

Faith's Surge in America

• “I keep talking to pastors around my neighborhood… who saw more people in the pews this past Sunday than they have seen in years.” (Steve Gruber, [18:02])
• “I’m convinced that this is going to go down in history as… the most attended… church service day of all of American history.” (Lucas Miles, [18:22])
• Advice for sustaining the revival: “Go home, read your Bible, hug your family, turn off your phone, spend time with the Lord…” (Lucas Miles, [19:09])

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4. Civics Education Initiative: Restoring American Foundations

Guest: Erica Donalds, Education Chair at AFPI & Optima Ed Founder
[20:44 – 24:54]

New National Civics Program

• The Department of Education partners with 41 conservative groups (TPUSA, Heritage, AFPI) for a multi-million dollar civics initiative for America’s 250th anniversary.
• Emphasis on teaching constitutional principles, difference between republic/communism/socialism, and accurate definitions of "fascism."
• “We need to ensure that the children in our schools know about our Constitution… and why America is the greatest nation the world has ever known.” (Erica Donalds, [21:25])
• Calls for students to pass the citizenship test to graduate high school.
• Critique of teachers’ unions and “monopolistic government school system.”

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5. Remembering Charlie Kirk: Legacy, Storytelling, and a Global Movement

Guest: Bill Federer, Historian & Founder of AmericanMinute.com
[27:21 – 33:44]

Personal Reminiscence & Global Impact

• Federer recounts Kirk’s meteoric rise and influence, including joint appearances and international travels.
• Emotional recollections: “Charlie texted me just two days before, the day before he was shot. Scripture... There is a wide door of effective ministry, but there are many adversaries.” (Bill Federer, [30:39])
• The breadth of response: “To have a million people in London and people on the streets of Seoul, Korea and Cambodia and Germany. What other 31 year old… has died and it's impacted the world?” (Bill Federer, [32:09])
• Parallels drawn between spiritual symbolism and Kirk’s death: “Unless a grain of wheat falls to the ground and dies, it remains alone. But if it dies, it brings forth abundant fruit.” (Steve Gruber, [33:15])

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6. Freedom of Speech and the Fight for Truth

Guest: Dr. Ben Tapper, Director of Epigenetics at The Wellness Company
[34:50 – 39:25]

Championing Dissent

• Charlie Kirk lauded for platforming dissenting views during COVID and championing free speech despite personal risk.
• “He was unafraid to speak the truth… The ultimate measure of man is not where he stands in times of comfort and convenience, but where he stands in challenge and controversy.” (Dr. Ben Tapper, [34:50])
• “Truth is treason in an empire of lies… I think his legacy is going to inspire others to be bold.” (Dr. Ben Tapper, [35:12])
• Framing current division as "good versus evil" and a "spiritual battle." (Dr. Ben Tapper, [36:31])

Health Segment

• Discussion on COVID vaccines, spike protein detox, and (briefly) parasite cleanses.

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7. Community Stories & Listener Reactions

[41:14 – 47:25]

• Steve Gruber features a positive local story about community compassion (Midvale, Utah: A kid’s stolen wheelchair replaced by a generous business).
• Listener feedback overwhelmingly supports Erica Kirk as TPUSA CEO: “That is exactly how it should be. Father God, watch over her always.” (Listener comment, [41:14])
• Anticipation for Charlie Kirk’s memorial at State Farm Stadium in Phoenix, with predictions of immense turnout and further grassroots momentum.

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• “A bullet cannot kill an idea. It cannot kill free speech.” — Steve Gruber ([01:36])
• “Charlie Kirk’s assassination might have been the opening shot of the war for the worldview of America.” — Mark Mitchell ([06:36])
• “This is a fight for the soul… it really is.” — Steve Gruber ([13:54])
• “We’re loving on each other. We’re taking moments to cry and to hug. But we’re also getting back to work.” — Lucas Miles ([16:05])
• “I’m convinced… the most attended… church service day of all of American history.” — Lucas Miles ([18:22])
• “We need to ensure children in our schools know about our Constitution…” — Erica Donalds ([21:25])
• “Unless a grain of wheat falls to the ground and dies, it remains alone. But if it dies, it brings forth abundant fruit.” — Steve Gruber ([33:15])
• “Truth is treason in an empire of lies.” — Dr. Ben Tapper ([35:12])

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Key Timestamps by Segment

| Segment | Topic/Guest | Start Time | |---|---|---| | 1 | American Revival, post-Charlie Kirk | [00:25] | | 2 | Trump, polling & Kirk's political impact (Mark Mitchell) | [03:57] | | 3 | Generational change/Internet influence | [09:32] | | 4 | Faith & Turning Point’s response (Lucas Miles) | [16:04] | | 5 | Civics education (Erica Donalds) | [20:44] | | 6 | Legacy/Personal stories (Bill Federer) | [27:21] | | 7 | Free speech legacy (Dr. Ben Tapper) | [34:50] | | 8 | Community story & listener responses | [41:14] |

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Final Thoughts

The aftermath of Charlie Kirk's assassination is depicted as a critical moment of spiritual and civic reawakening for America, with invigorated movements for faith, patriotism, youth involvement, and constitutional literacy. The episode’s passionate and sometimes dire tone amplifies the sense of a nation at a crossroads—facing threats but also rallying to revive its founding ideals, foster civic education, and honor the legacy of a fallen leader by multiplying his impact.

If you missed this episode, you’ll come away understanding why many guests and the host view these recent events as transformative for American conservatism and civic life.

Transcript

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I see him live. Breaking news right now here on Real America's Voice Filtered. These people are domestic terrorists and unapologetic. We're here to take a stand for God and country. Let's feel good. America's Voice Live starts now. Welcome to America's Voice Live. I'm Steve Gura. It is Friday the 19th of September in the year of our Lord 2025. Let's get to the day's top three. As always, thank you for spending time with us here on Real America's Voice. I truly appreciate it. The memorial for Charlie Kurt will not be held. Arizona Cardinals, State Farm Stadium, where many leaders are slated to speak. I'll bring on the director of Turning Point Faith to discuss memorial as well as the revival of faith in America in the aftermath of Charlie Kirk's assassination. Also, the Education Department is partnering with 41 conservative groups, led by the America First Policy Institute, AFPI, Turning Point USA, and the Heritage foundation, launching civics programming for the America's 250th anniversary next year. I'll bring on an expert to discuss that as well. And then later, Charlie Kirk believed more than anyone in the power of free sports. So it's only fitting that we discuss what the Founding Fathers wanted. A future in which the Constitution and its specifics were accessible to every citizen. All that and more coming today. But first, I'd like to start with the American Revival. With the American Revival. Because that's where we are in the aftermath of Charlie Kirk's assassination. This revival seemingly taking place in America. And Americans are turning out by the thousands to honor Charlie Kirk's life and his legacy all across the country and around the world. It's all true. TPUSA is not only not dying, it is exploding in popularity. It's drawing millions of new people to its core cause of saving this nation. Like I said before, a bullet cannot kill an idea. It cannot kill free speech. And that's what Charlie Kirk was all about. Free speech, faith, patriotism. His widow, Erica Kirk, has been chosen as the new CEO of Turning Point USA and will no doubt Carry Charlie's legacy and amplify it a thousand fold. Everyone close to Charlie agreed that it's what he would have wanted, no question. And ever since his assassination, Turning Point USA has received an overwhelming number of support and interest in joining the movement, including myself and my family. And many more continuing to follow suit. It is remarkable. On September 10th, Turning Point, Listen to this. Had 900 official chapters at colleges in America, 1200 in high schools. But now, nine days after his untimely assassination, the organization has received over 65,000 thousand applications for chapters, 65,000 across the country. Like I said, there is a revival happening in America. It's causing the Republicans to grow exponentially as well. President Trump's approval ratings have shot up since September 10th as well. On September 10th, the President's approval rating was sitting at 48% with disapproval at 51 minus 3 points. But today, right now, his approval rating is at 53, 46. He's plus 10. Plus 10. It's 10 point shift in his favor. It's pretty remarkable. Here to discuss this with me is the head pollster at Rasmussen Reports, Mark Mitchell. Mark, nice to see you here today. First of all, 65,000 new applications for chapters for TPUSA. That's remarkable. But I've not seen something like this for President Trump. In fact, I just looked at something on your X account. He's polling better than his first term, then Joe Biden or either of Barack Obama's terms. At this point, am I reading this wrong or is that what I'm seeing?

[D]

No, that's exactly right. At this point, in any of the prior four presidencies, every single one of them has not hit a data point anywhere this high, not even a couple months back or a couple months forward. Because what happens is the honeymoon runs out and then you have basically, in the middle of the summer, buyers remorse, despair, disillusionment, the President loses their political capital from their inauguration. And that's not happening with Trump at all. This presidency is entirely different and it's completely 100% because of Charlie Kirk. But you showed that chart. I think what's incredible is that, yes, he's up 10 points since before the assassination, but if you look, he was still underwater too, just at the beginning of the week. So really the story is in four days, he's gone plus nine. And so I can tell you that the polling started changing immediately after the Kirk assassination. Right direction plunged, it dropped 5 points, including 7 points among Republicans, 6 points among independents. So America immediately woke up, saw the signal right away. But Trump approval didn't change at all. Now Trump approval is soaring. And why? Well, it's because he's talking about cracking down on Anifa. He's getting scumbags kicked off of their, you know, network television jobs. I think that this fascist crackdown, I guess this is day one of Donald Trump's fascism, and America is clamoring for it, is the message that I'm taking away from it.

[B]

Yeah, well, I don't think people believe that it's fascism at all, Mark. I think that we've seen. Look, here's the thing. It was crushing for Americans on the 10th of September to see this young man executed in front of 3,000 college kids, really in front of the world, because people are live streaming. The video went everywhere. I can unsee it. And maybe I don't want to. Maybe I want to remember how horrible it was and what was done to this country. I think I heard this earlier. You tell me what you think about this. The most significant political assassination since Martin Luther King Jr. I can think of nothing in, in the interim that has had this kind of an impact. Your thoughts?

[D]

Well, of course. And it's not just who it is. A lot of it, like you said, is how it was done, who did it and what it looks like, because these images, symbology really matters. The Arena Zarutska killing, we didn't really talk much about that, but because of Charlie Kirk. But down in Charlotte, we had the death penalty going from plus 13 to plus 40 in this case. And, you know, public opinion, people don't change their minds easily on something like executing violent criminals. So plus 40 death penalty. And, you know, that's a really major shift. But again, with Martin Luther King Jr. I think what was important was the timing, what was the societal context. And Charlie Kirk's assassination comes at a very critical time because I personally believe we're at the end of the fourth turning, that I don't think that there's a golden path ahead of us where Donald Trump can fix all of the problems we have in a society. He's doing about as much as you can expect of a single politician. He really is. But the problem is, is that our society is falling apart. It's been undermined by Marxism and individualism and ideological rot. And unfortunately, there's a different battle that's not political. It's about worldviews. And I think that Charlie Kirk's assassination might have been the opening shot of the war for the worldview of America. And I applaud it because it's a required part of cleaning up our institutions and returning to a high trust, high value society. Everything we've done has ramifications. I'll just throw one of them out there. We removed the Ten Commandments from public schools. Thou shalt not kill. These kids are not being taught that one of our core values is thou shalt not kill.

[B]

Yeah. What I'm going to say here is not disrespectful at all. But it's been said many times. I think Thomas Jefferson said it. The tree of liberty has to be watered with the blood of patriots. I don't think you can find anybody more patriotic that believed in this country more than Charlie Kirk. It's a terrible price to pay, Mark. But the door that he has opened. 65,000 applications for new chapters of Turning Point USA. That's one and a half chapters for every high school in America. Think about that. You're seeing this gathering. I don't know what to expect. I'm going to be in Phoenix on Sunday. It could be hundreds of thousands of people. If it's any indication, they're treating it like a Super Bowl. Is the Secret Service, is the FBI, is the federal government, the intelligence community? Because it's going to be such a massive outpouring of love, faith and hope, Mark, that we did make a turning point. Your thoughts on that?

[D]

I think we're entering a time because of the fourth turning of very rapid turning points. And this might be one of them. It's actually kind of ironic that the name of their organization is Turning Point. We're not talking about a little move. We're not talking about, oh, Republicans are going to pick up a couple of points. And by the way, the generic ballot is now down to Democrat plus two from Democrat plus four. So that's all after Charlie Kirk. The national association of Independent Pollsters. That's one of. One of them is me. We put that out today. This is like, Remember back in 2001, 3,000Americans tragically lost their lives, but remember what it did to society. We went from a nation very divided over 300 hanging chads to an 80% George W. Bush approval rating. And literally questioning the war with Iraq made you public enemy number one. Remember the hate level that Cindy Sheehan who literally just didn't want people to die? We're going to see something that puts that to shame. And this might be the beginning of it. But that's what's required, that kind of resolve by society. Yeah, we bottom up, not top.

[B]

We had talked about this previously and you and I had talked about this previously. Gen Z is the most conservative patriotic generation maybe since the 1960s. I think if the millennials look in the rearview mirror, they're going to see a freight train coming behind them that is patriotic, that believes in this country, that believes in the ideals of this country and faith. Am I wrong?

[D]

You are. Actually, I would have agreed with you a couple of months ago maybe, but I just did some polling and it's very, very, very different than that. It's absolutely wild. Now they have been moving towards Trump. I will admit the 18-39s went to Hillary Clinton by like 20 plus points in our polling and they went to Harris by only 4. But I just did a poll of 18 to 39 year olds and the 18 to 29 year olds are worse than the 30 to 39. And even Trump voters, even Republicans, even self ID conservatives are not paleo conservatives in the traditional sense. They, they believe in wealth confiscation by a majority. They want industries nationalized, they want income caps by a majority. It's absolutely wild. Like they believe they live in a system that they do not believe has worked. They don't think they can afford a house. They've opted out of building relationships. I'm painting with a broad brush. I mean, obviously there's some consumers, but they have been, they've inherited a very broken society and their values are not the same as our values. They were not instilled Western civilization. Most of them didn't go to church. And so what I'm hoping is that. And the fourth turning tells us the millennials are going to fill the vacuum. And I hope that's the case because they still grew up playing stickball and not Helldivers 2 on Discord, getting radicalized by Marxists.

[B]

Well, and that's fair. And look, if I'm wrong, I appreciate being corrected because what I see on social media here is post after post after post. And maybe I'm in my own bubble here, but I don't think so because I've got pretty much both sides covered in my algorithm. Trust me, I see all sorts of things post after post saying I was a Democrat. I'm appalled at the way these people have behaved since Charlie Kirk. I'm moving to the right and become a Republican. I see people saying, I have finally went and listened to Charlie Kirk. I was completely wrong about what I thought and what I said about him. I've actually listened to him. I'm becoming a Republican now. I'm an independent. I don't belong to any political party, nor will I ever. But I'm seeing this in post after post after post online. I think it's significant. And this push, yes, of 65,000 chapters, I mean, this is not to be.

[D]

No, it's a movement, but that's what leadership is. What I'm saying is these algorithms will pump the absolute most extreme things. And also there are now free markets of ideas. Twitter is a free marketplace of ideas right now. What do you see? Conservative ideas work because they're obviously like logically consistent and correct and not disingenuous. But the problem is, and what Congress is still just starting to figure out is that they basically, it's not just that they captured public schools. It's not just that they turned every mainline denomination gay. It's not just that they captured academia. They've captured pretty much the Internet, the youthful Internet, where those people live. They went after them on Roblox, on Steam, on Discord, on Reddit. And those places are heavily, heavily, heavily moderated and also full of all of these Marxists that are probably being funded with our own tax taxpayer dollars. George Soros, those, they have a death grip. And that is the majority view of these people. They are very anti capitalistic. Now there are leaders, there are people flocking to Turning Point. There are very strong based conservatives and they're winning in the marketplace ideas. But this is about a war for America's worldview. And the 18-29s are still like right in the middle of the battlefield. And again, I don't think this war has been fought at all, at all. Nobody's talked about Reddit. And Reddit's the fifth biggest website in the United States. The subreddit for transgenderism. And 23% of 18 to 29 year olds identify as LGBTQ. The subreddit for transgenderism on Reddit, fifth biggest website in the US is bigger than the subreddit for Christianity. So this is a fight for the, for the worldview of these kids. And it is completely.

[B]

They say it's a fight for the soul. Yeah. When they say it's a fight for the soul of the country, it really is. Now Mark is going to give us some time to gel. We'll have you back here in a few days because it's moving rapidly right now. Maybe it is the fourth turning. We'll check back in to see where the numbers are in a week and see if it's heading that same direction. Mark Mitchell, thank you as always.

[D]

Thank you. Great to be here.

[B]

Really appreciate from Rasmussen as We said before, be careful of Reddit, be careful of these dark back alleys of the Internet that will bring in children and try to indoctrinate them. It's what they do. And they build algorithms and they design it that way. So be careful with your kids, please. I believe the movement and the revival is real. So does he. But where does it go? Where does it solidify? We'll keep you up to date on it. After the break, I'll bring on the director of Turning Point Faith to discuss Charlie Kirk's courage in his faith and how that courage has sparked in his mind a revival. Specific details straight ahead. All right. Welcome back to America's Voice Live, the memorial for Charlie Kirk. As you know, we held this coming Sunday at the Arizona Cardinals farm, State Farm Stadium, where leaders are expected to speak. President Trump, RFK Jr. Erica Kirk. So many more, thousands of people expected to attend and even more are expected to watch from their homes. This is a testament to how much impact Charlie Kirkley had. Despite what the radicals on the other side might say on social media, Charlie believed in faith overall. He was said on a podcast that he wants to be remembered for his courage and his faith. That was the most important thing he wanted to be remembered for for his entire life. And like I said in the previous block, Charlie has paved the way for a revival of faith in America. That's the way it looks to me. Join me now to discuss this. The director of Turning Point Faith, my friend Lucas Miles. Lucas, nice to see you again today. I know it's been a difficult time. You said day to day there. You're in Arizona. No easy days right now. Where are you? We're nine days on. Tell me where you are. Where's the staff of Turning Point right now?

[D]

Yeah, I mean, obviously this is a.

[E]

Very personal journey for everybody that is here within Turning Point, but I think it also is for America. I mean, Charlie Kirk didn't just belong to us. I think he belonged to this nation as a whole. And he loved America so much. You know, we, we're doing well. The team, these Charlie has gathered just some of the strongest and just best, you know, team members from, you know, that he's put together the last 10 years. They're incredible and they're working hard. We're loving on each other. We're praying for each other. We're taking moments to, to cry and to hug. But we're also getting back to work. We're going to plan a great send off for Charlie this weekend, which I believe is going to be one of the most historic television events of all time. And ultimately, Monday, it's time to get back to the mission.

[B]

Yeah. So Monday, it's all hands on deck. Go to work. You've got a lot of applications to process at the top of the show. You can pull that screen back up for us if you could, guys. 65,000 plus new applications for chapters of Turning Point USA. And that's for Turning Point Faith. That's for Turning Point USA on college campuses. That's for Turning Point USA and high school campus. I mean, look at this. This is. It's remarkable. They had 900 affiliations on college campuses. 1200 on high school campuses. 62,000 applications. Lucas, this is. I don't know how to say it. It's remarkable.

[D]

This is.

[E]

There's a transformation happening in this nation. I heard the last conversation and look, I think the truth is in the middle of this, there is a generation, and Charlie saw this, that's been trending towards a post Christian worldview. There's also simultaneously a massive revival that is taking place. How we steward this moment right now is more important than ever. We hope to continue to be at the heartbeat of that which I really believe is God's plan and purpose. But it's going to take every single one of us to fill Charlie's shoes and the impact that he's made and to really help this gospel, you know, of faith and freedom and liberty in this nation, you know, really ring out for a long time to come.

[B]

Absolutely. So on the faith side of it, and I've. You and I talked about this a couple of days ago. I keep talking to pastors around my neighborhood and around the country who saw more people in the pews this past Sunday than they have seen in years. In years. Lucas.

[E]

Look, I'm convinced that this is going to go down in history as last Sunday as the most attended, you know, church service day of all of, you know, American history. I just think the stats have to be there. It was massive. We had double attendance on Sunday at our church. I heard this from churches all across the country. Pastors need to be alert on this right now. If you're not talking about this issue, if you're not addressing it, your people are yearning for you to. It's time to talk about this. It's not just about, you know, glorifying Charlie Kirk. It's about recognizing the moment that we're in and capitalizing on that for the sake of Jesus Christ. There's a lot of hurting people right now that he ministered to and churches need to have open arms ready to receive them.

[B]

Last question. How do we hold onto this fire, Lucas? How do we hold this right here?

[E]

Yeah, we can't let this just be a moment. Charlie wouldn't want that by any means. And you know, I think that, you know, in the all the pressure can't be on Turning Point USA either. Although we hope to be continued, you know, to be that tip of the spear here moving forward. But I think that all of us, what Charlie would say is go home, read your Bible, hug your family, turn off your phone, spend time with the Lord, cultivate that revival on the inside of each one of our hearts so that we can take that out and into the marketplace of ideas, into our universities, in the school cafeterias on a daily basis. Following Jesus is a, is a total involvement process.

[B]

Lucas Miles, I appreciate you being here. Might see on Sunday, it's going to be a packed house. We might run across each other. Be safe, my friend. Thank you. All right, after the break. The Department of Education teaming up with conservative groups to push for more civics programs within America's schools. Good idea. We'll talk about it straight ahead. Well, the Education Department is partnering with 41 conservative groups now led by the America First Policy Institute, Turning Point USA and the Heritage foundation, among others, launching civics programming for America's 250th anniversary coming up next year. The initiative focuses on patriotism, liberty and American founding principles and includes bringing to schools a speaker series and student competitions. The initiative is backed by a budget of 23 to $160 million, depending on what they need. Joining me to discuss this, AFP Eyes Education chair and founder of Optima, Ed Erica Donalds. Erica, nice to see you again.

[A]

Oh, it's great to be here. And I'm so honored to be serving as co chair of the America 250 Civics Education Coalition in partnership with Secretary McMahon and all of these great conservative organizations.

[B]

Yeah, it comes at a remarkable time in American history. Now with all that has happened in the last nine or 10 days, we sit here on a, on a day that, well, the whole world has changed, I think, and we look forward and I think civics is so important when, when new citizens of this country that have gone through the citizenship process know more about the Constitution and our founding fathers and everything this country is about, know more than the kids we send to public schools. That's a problem. Your thoughts?

[A]

Well, that's what this initiative is about. We need to ensure that the children in our schools know about Our Constitution, not what people are saying about it, but be able to read it for themselves, understand the true history of our country and why America is the greatest nation that the world has ever known. They need to know the difference between a constitutional republic and communism and socialism. They really need to know the definition of fascism so that they can recognize when people are lying to them about who the fascists are in this country.

[B]

Absolutely true. You know, they need to understand. Look, I keep this on my desk. It's well worn because I refer to it all the time, the Constitution. Because so many people, how many times it's not constitutional or this, that it's in the Constitution, when they don't have any idea what they're talking about. They talk gibberish and acts as if they. But they say it with authority. They speak gibberish with authority, and they make you think that they know what they're talking about. I think that we need more civics, and I think it should start in elementary school, be in middle school, be in high school. We took one government class in high school. That's all it took to graduate from high school back in the day. I think there needs to be a lot more.

[A]

What do you think parents need to demand more from our schools? We're talking about civics being taught every day in every grade level, putting it on par with reading and math as something that's critical to our national security, to the future of our republic for the next 250 years. We're talking about students having to take the citizenship exam in order to graduate from high school to ensure that they know as much as the immigrants know about our country that are required to do so before becoming citizens and being able to vote in our elections. And so we're not just doing events around the country and promoting patriotism, although that's really important. We want to get people excited about celebrating America. We are going to leave behind a policy initiative in every state that's going to ensure that this is lasting and that our students love and appreciate this country.

[B]

Yeah, absolutely true. We have to have an understanding of the country. So here's. And I mentioned this off the top because this is top of mind for everyone right now, this horrible assassination of Charlie Kirk here nine days ago. But now Hillary Clinton comes out, endorses this book, speaking of education. This crosses all the lines of Weingarten's new book, Randy Weingarten's new book, basically saying that if you don't want to hear it, you're a fascist. Here they are just Spreading the filth. They have no shame. Hillary Clinton out there promoting this book about fascism and Randy Weingarten, the American Federation's a teacher head. It's. Is it ever going to stop? Are they completely tone deaf? Can they read a room? I wonder.

[A]

They certainly cannot. And Randi Weingarten in her book the Front Cover basically compares parents who want accountability for their children's education to fascists. And they absolutely should not have put this out. It's a ridiculous thing, especially as we're fighting over individuals saying that MAGA are the ones who are fascists. And related to that term. Is Randy Weingarten a maga? I don't think so. Right. So yeah, parents need escape from the monopolistic government school system. It's fascist if you want to call it that. To want this government control over our children. What they learn, the values that are instilled in them and how they learn. That's why we want to continue to promote school choice and parental rights and fight against this, these teachers unions and what they're trying to do with our students.

[B]

Absolutely. Eric, I greatly appreciate you being here. It's an important topic. We need to teach kids about this country. Give them a love of America, the greatest nation ever conceived. Erica Donald Sagan. Thank you Keely. Appreciate it. Now I realize there are many choices when it comes to who you choose for your cell phone service and there are new ones popping up all the time. You know that. But here's the truth. There's only one that boldly stands in the gap for every American that believes that freedom is worth fighting for. And that, my friends, is Patriot Mobile. For more than 12 years Patriot Mobile has been on the front lines fighting for our God given rights. Got that? God given rights and freedoms while also providing exceptional nationwide cell phone service with access to all three of the main networks. Don't just take my word for it. Ask the hundreds of thousands of Americans who've made the switch and are now supporting causes they believe in simply by joining Patriot Mobile. Switching is easier than ever. Activated minutes from the comfort of your own home. Keep your number, keep your phone. Or you can upgrade if you'd like. Patriot Mobile's all US based support team is standing by to take care of you right now. Call 972 Patriot today or go to patriotmobile.com rev when you use the promo code RAV, you're going to get a free month of service right off the top. That's patriotmobile.com rev or call 972 Patriot. Make the switch today. Coming up after the break, I'll discuss the importance of constitutional rights, specifically the right to free speech. It's being discussed a lot right now. A right that Charlie Kirk wholeheartedly believed in along with our Founding Fathers. More on that coming up. Well, in everything that's happened over the last week, week and a half, you may have missed Constitution Day. It was Wednesday of this week, meant to recognize the official adoption of the American Constitution to celebrate that day when our Founding Fathers signed the document in 1787. Charlie Kirk believed more than anyone in the power of free speech. So it's only apt that we discuss this as the founders wanted a in which the Constitution and its specifics were accessible for all citizens. Justice Charlie wanted the power of open debate to stand strong. Here to talk with me about this in this remarkable period in American history, world history, really, historian and the founder of the American Minute.com Bill Federer. Bill, nice to have you back on the program.

[C]

Steve, great to be with you.

[B]

I heard somebody say today and I cannot dismiss this, this is the most significant assassination in American political history since the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr. Two very different leaders, but leaders that have obviously had impact, not just the United States, but around the world with their messages and their message of conversation and to persuade people. There's some similarities, I think, between these two individuals. And here we are on a on a day when we're looking toward the funeral of Charlie Kirk on Sunday. What do you make of this moment? How impactful is it.

[C]

To me? I still haven't processed it. I've known Charlie for over 10 years. I tell people in 2014 I was the main speaker at an event In Robinson, Illinois, 500 people at the Civic center. And Charlie was the warm up speaker for me. And I remember I couldn't concentrate on my notes because he was so good talking about the Constitution being the greatest political document in world history. And then later I ran for Congress back in the year 2000 and a conservative billionaire, Foster Fries, he since passed away, but he gave to my campaign. We became friends and once a year we'd go hunting and some place in South Dakota and sometimes he'd have Tucker Carlson and Andrew Breitbart and Senator John Thune and Kristi Noem. And it'd be like two dozen people and it was special. And I was always wondering how I got to be part of this group. But I would tell history stories. And one time he invited Charlie Kirk. And Charlie talked about at the Republican National National Convention 2012 Chasing foster freeze up A couple stairs, giving him his two minute pitch on engaging young people. And Foster said, I like it. Here's a check. And that helped launch Turning Point usa. It expanded over the years. I'd speak at events with Charlie and Tucker, and I was always thrilled to see that his mind was so fast. I did probably a dozen shows on his Charlie Kirk show, and I'd get 50% through my point. And he'd already have the conclusion. So one time at the Freedom center, he had a Freedom Night in Phoenix with 5,000 people there. And we did the thing where you sit on the two chairs on the stage. But I was with him a week before he died. We were in Seoul, Korea. And right now, I don't know if anybody knew, but they use Huawei computers for their elections. Huawei is a communist Chinese company. And so lo and behold, the popular president gets defeated. He thinks there's computer fraud, so he seizes the machines. They accuse him of wanting to void the election. They put him in jail and impeach him. And then the new president gets in, throws the old president, his wife in jail, and starts raiding pastors and their houses. And the one pastor that Charlie and I met with is Pastor Sun Hyung Bo. And they filed 22 lawsuits against him. And Charlie says, if they arrest you, I'm going to personally call President Trump. Two days after we left, they arrested this pastor. He's in jail right now.

[B]

And.

[C]

And Charlie texted me just two days before, the day before he was shot. Scripture. We text scriptures back and forth. And it was First Corinthians, 16, 9. There is a wide door of effective ministry, but there are many adversaries.

[B]

Correct?

[C]

Little did I know that he shared.

[B]

That with a couple of different people. I know that. Let me read you a couple of posts on X just popped up since we've been talking here, because I think this is reflective. First one. As a lifelong Democrat, I didn't know what to make of Charlie Kirk. I've since spent several lunch breaks watching his debates full videos and have come away with the impression that we got him all wrong. The reaction from those on my side of the aisle have really made me rethink whether I'm on the right side of history. Well, I'm crossing the aisle. I just registered as a Republican. Anyone else? That's one. Let me give you another one. As a lifelong Democrat, I'm tired of watching my party become the Westboro Baptist Church. The dumb response to the assassination of Charlie Kirk is full of hate. We are a long way away from the Party of jfk. I have registered as a Republican as of today, have had enough. There's a revival in America, Bill. I really believe that. And look, just before you and I came on, the new number is 65,000 plus new applications for TPUSA chapters across this country. 65,000 plus. I've talked to pastors across the country over the last few days who all said this past Sunday they doubled attendance. This revival is real, isn't it?

[C]

Yeah. So Pastor Neil Eaton, New Hope Church in plymouth, Massachusetts, around 1100 people. Last Sunday, it went up to 1500. Because of Charlie Kirk's death, all these young people have decided to start going back to church. He said, my church grew by a third in one Sunday and it's happening around the world. To have a million people in London and people on the streets of Seoul, Korea and Cambodia and Germany. What other 31 year old have you ever known that has died and it's impacted the world? I do believe this is a God moment. And I think that somebody made an AI picture of Charlie walking the steps to heaven to meet Jesus and he's turning and passing the baton to hundreds of young people that are reaching up. And one young person did a video that went viral and he goes, this is the turning point. Unless a grain of wheat falls to the ground and dies, it remains alone. But if it dies, it brings forth abundant fruit. And of course this is referring to Jesus, but in a sense it also refers to Charlie Kirk instead of it being one. Now they have T shirts. We're all Charlie Kirk.

[B]

It's John 12:23. And strangely, ironically, whatever you make of that, John 12:23 correlates to exactly the time of day, 12:23pm When Charlie Kirk was murdered in Utah. Bill, I really appreciate you being here. I think the full impact will continue to roll out. I think if the millennials look in the rearview mirror, they're going to see Gen Z coming like a freight train. Bill Federer, I greatly appreciate you being here.

[C]

God bless you, Steve.

[B]

God bless you, my friend. We'll take a break here. Time for a quick commercial. I'll be right back. Well, this has been a rough number of days for all of us still reeling from the assassination of Charlie Kirk during the pandemic. Charlie Kirk was one of those people out there, big name podcasters who would have. Would have the dissenting doctors on and talk about early treatment of COVID and the danger of the vaccine. Hear me discuss. This is the director of epigenetics at the Wellness company, my friend, Dr. Ben Tapper. Ben, nice to see you back here on the program. Charlie was one of those people that would stand up and say, look, look, I don't buy all what you're telling me here. And he would be an alternative voice. And what did he get for it? He got silenced. I wonder if all those people clamoring about Jimmy Kimmel getting fired for failing to deliver money to the bottom line of a big company if they were clamoring for Charlie Kirk. I think you know the answer. But what is Charlie's legacy? What's it mean to you as a doctor?

[F]

Well, he was unafraid to speak the truth. And I think it, you know, he lived the lesson, he lived in a good example for all of us to follow to speak the truth when it's not easy. I mean, the ultimate measure of man is not where he stands in times of comfort and convenience, but where he stands in times of challenge and controversy. I mean, this goes to show you that truth is treason and an empire of lies. Charlie spoke the truth in a bold way, in a big way, and it's a dangerous thing. When he opened, he just welcomed dialogue. He welcomed that especially into the youth. He had a lot of influence in the youth. And I think that, you know, the establishment that left, they hated him for it. And that's, you know, it's a scary thing when freedom of speech is under attack. And it's just, you know, my heart mourns for Charlie and his, and his wife and children. And it is truly heartbreaking. I mean, I was a friend of Charlie and it's just, it is heartbreaking. But his, you know, I think Robert Schneider said it best. You can kill the man, but you can't kill the message, you know, And I think his legacy is going to live on and inspire others to be bold. I can't tell you how many messages I got from people to stand up, that they're going to stand up. They're inspired. I mean, Thomas Jefferson said, one man is a majority. One man with courage is a majority. And Charlie Kirk was that man.

[B]

Yeah, he certainly was. Clearly, his words have been seen by more people in the last nine days than at any time during his life. All of them amplified. I keep seeing posts on the Internet here. People said, I actually listened to him. He's not at all what they told me. No. Gee, I'm shocked. You mean your little 15 second clip on TikTok wasn't the whole story? It's about time people woke up, isn't it?

[F]

Yes, you know, it really is. And the one thing that I want people to know is that this isn't just right versus left or left versus right. This is absolutely good versus evil. This is spiritual warfare. Just as it says in Ephesians 6:12. We do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the principalities and powers and the rulers of darkness in heavenly places. This is, make no mistake, this is a spiritual battle going on. And, you know, the soil for truth is rich right now and the people are starving for it. And just as your earlier segment, you know, you said revival. I pray that this was. I pray that this leads to a revival because we are in dire straits in this country. People are more, you know, sick now than ever before with emotional sickness, depression, anxiety, worry. They're trying to fill voids with alcohol and drugs, and you'll never fill that void. You know, we are spiritual vessels, not just humans having this spiritual experience, but we're very much spiritual, you know, and so we need to clean Christ and really have that.

[B]

And I go Back to John 12:23, you know, one kernel of wheat, when it sits there, it's one seed, but when it dies, it spreads seeds everywhere. That's what Charlie did, right? He spread seeds everywhere. He did that all over the world. Look at the pouring of outpouring of love in places like South Korea, the uk, all over the world. We've seen this. Truly a blessing. He was one of the first big podcasters to question the COVID vaccine. Every day we're learning more and more about Long Covid and the damage done. If more people would listen to him, maybe they'd be in better shape. Potentially the vaccine did some damage. People we know about the myocarditis, the pericarditis. What would you recommend for people that are concerned that they got the vaccine or they had Covid and they don't know what to do now?

[F]

Well, I'm telling you, I think everyone absolutely needs to be on a spike support of some kind. The wellness company does make one of the best spike support detoxes on the planet. It's the best formulation that I've seen. You know, I take it, I recommend it for patients because we are seeing myocarditis in healthier populations that we've never seen before prior to the vaccine. So it is absolutely essential that we get on a spike support detox. Fasting is important as well, but we can't neglect, like, good lifestyle choices. We can't just take a supplement, think we're going to be healthy. You know, all disease starts with toxicity and deficiency. We need to move away from that purity and sufficiency. And we do that with good food choices and good supplementation, you know, and so, but I do think we need to fast. That's one of the most powerful ways systemically to really uproot a lot of toxins in the body and get rid of that and actually promote health and healing. But also supplementation, the spike support is one of the best supplements you can get on to really affect, to help combat the damaging effects of, of this vaccine, this MRI technology, and the Spike tox toxin, because that's what it is. The Spike protein, make no mistake, is an absolute toxin.

[B]

I gotta ask you one more thing. And, and I hope nobody's having lunch at the moment, but there's this parasite out there that I've seen and it, it, I, I the word icky, it just seems icky. It's called chagas, right? It's like the kissing disease thing. It gets on your face. I mean, I'm sorry somebody's having lunch, but this thing is, it's disgusting. It's a parasite. It gets on your face, right?

[F]

Yeah. Well, the chagas is caused by a parasite. But the thing is that, you know, more people are waking up to parasites than ever before. It's at the topic, it's at the forefront of conversations. I mean, you see a lot of influencers pushing parasite cleanses and everything else now more than ever before. But the truth of the matter is that we are learning that parasites play a bigger role in our level of health and our sickness than we ever were led to believe. And so Chaga, as you mentioned, it's really, I call it the silent killer because it can be silent, lay dormant in a body, in a human body for decades without the person knowing about it. But what it can cause is 30% of the people that get Chaga's parasite, it actually causes fatal heart disease. And it's a silent killer. Yes. And so it's very, it's important that we do these parasite cleanses.

[B]

Well, and I know I did it. The gold standard for parasite cleanses comes from the wellness company. I did it. My wife did it. We loved it, felt great afterwards. 60 million Americans have parasites. Don't even know it. Gives you brain fog, gives you this, whatever this. And you don't want to get something that take your life, obviously. So the wellness company, it's a great place for the Spike protein formula. It's the best there is. The parasite cleanse the best there is. That's why we recommend them. Folks. I've used the products the doctor recommends. The products go to TWC Health voice today. Learn more. Use phone code voice. You'll save 10% as well. Doctor, always appreciate seeing you, sir. Thank you. You.

[F]

Yeah, thanks, Steve. God bless.

[B]

God bless you. TWC Health SL voice. Go there today. Learn more. Use a promo code voice. You're going to save 10%. Now after the break, we're going to have a story that reminds us of how wonderful America is. We do it every day. Plus, your answers to the America's Voice question of the day. What are your thoughts on Erica Kirk becoming the new CEO of Turning Point usa? We'll be right back. All right. What makes America wonderful? We do it here every day because you need some hope in your life. And I hope to put a smile on your face every day at the end of the show. That's. That's what we try to do here. Look, you live in a pretty great country. Today's story comes to us from Midvale, Utah, where the community rallied together to mend a family's heartbreak. You're gonna like this story. 11 year old Axton was born with a condition known as amc, which condition in which stiff and weak muscles are prevalent. And because of this, Axton had to mobilize himself by way of electric wheelchair when long distances became a factor. And sadly, Axton's family faced an unprecedented challenge as some thief stole the wheelchair from the family's driveway. Who does that? Who steals a kid's wheelchair? Anyhow, Axton and his family were at a loss for words. But the story caught the attention of the team at Compassion Mobility who not only gave action a brand new electric wheelchair, but one that could be operated with just his elbow so it didn't strain the young man. Focusing on the negative events in life is often a train we thought we'd go down. But stories like these, stories like these remind us that things are not too grim. It's making America great. Taking care of that kid and giving a brand new wheelchair to the kid after some theater. Who steals a wheelchair? Who does that? Good grief. Anyhow, question of the day. What are your thoughts on Erica Kirk becoming the new CEO of Turning Point usa? Dee Dee writes this. Very happy. She is the perfect choice. Rebecca Martin has this. That is exactly how it should be. Father God, watch over her always. Richard Powell shares this. I have no concerns with her being the CEO. Liberty and Freedom has this. I think she's the perfect person to be CEO of Turning Point. Love, Freedom. Now, I believe Charlie would want this. My thoughts and prayers will be with her. And Turning Point. Steve Van shares this. I believe it is what Charlie would have wanted, in fact, so Charlie said, if anything ever happens to me, me, this is where we want to go with this. If anything ever happens to me, this is where we want to go. Now, coming up on Sunday, we will have special coverage. Go ahead and put that, that screen up. Special coverage of the memorial to Charlie Kirk. It's coming up Sunday, State Farm arena in Phoenix, Arizona. By the way, it's going to be a hundred degrees as we gather tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands. I'm not really sure what the turnout's gonna be. It's going to be massive. Charlie Kirk will have complete coverage right here on Real America's Voice all day on Sunday. So join us here. Gather around. If you can't be there in person, you can be there in spirit. And boy, how important is that today? How important is that today this revival is real. All right, so Bowling is on his way in. Bolling, good to see you. Today, some good news. I want to share some numbers with you. I'm sure you've seen them, but I want to share these, the brand new numbers, TPUSA applications for new chapters, 65,000 plus. I mean, that's remarkable. And also in the last nine days, Donald Trump's approval numbers have gone from minus three at Rasmussen to plus seven. So two amazing things. 62,000 new applications for Turning Point USA chapters. And then look at those numbers. Donald Trump has gone from -3 on 10 September to +7 today. And Rasmussen, look, Mark Mitchell, he nailed it in the election, 2024. I like his numbers. I like what he says. He doesn't always agree with me, but man, he's got some good numbers there, doesn't he?

[G]

He does numbers, you know, I love the numbers. Steve Gruber, I love the numbers. You said tens of thousands, maybe more. Wait till you see what happens because that stadium holds, I think, 70,000 for the Arizona Cardinals. But remember, that's off the football field. That's just the stands. I'm guessing they're going to fill up the, you know, the field as well. Well, you're going to see massive numbers and watch what happens after, too, because when you're spending the whole day, I think we start early in the morning. I'll be out there as well. We start early in the morning. We're going to go throughout the day. You're going to see just the outpouring of love and emotion for Charlie and TP USA and Trump and all things that are right. Watch what happens after. That's when, when those numbers start, when those polling numbers you watch enough FOX is going. Everyone's going to take it. Everyone's going to take. Everyone's going to watch it. And then you're going to see the. That's when the needles start to move even further. I'm guessing, in, in Trump's direction.

[B]

I think you're right.

[G]

People realize that Charlie was, he was great. He was. Had such amazing reach. But it was the relationship he had with Trump that was really, it was charming. It was amazing, it was awesome. It's really why they were so successful. And at some point, let's not forget, I think Trump said that he was looking to make. I think he said September 10, the National Day of recognition for, for Charlie Kirk. So a lot, a lot, a lot. October 14th.

[B]

I don't mean it correct.

[G]

Is that what.

[B]

It's Charlie's birthday. Charlie's birthday is October 4th. I just read that. That's why I know that fresh in the mind here. And I'm on October birthday, too. And I thought, well, that's interesting. But, you know, it's the community that you make, too. The people that are going to be in Phoenix, you're going to make new friends, new relationships, new connections, and those connections are going to echo through the ages as well. As we come together as a community. Eric, I think there's so much good to come out of Sunday as we come together as a Christian community celebrating a great patriot. And what did he say he wanted to be remembered for? Defending his faith. Eric, it's going to be a big.

[G]

This is going to be a huge, huge day. It's going to be wild, even if it's hot. You know what? Bring it on. Bring on the heat. We love. It's a dry heat, they say.

[A]

Steve, this is an iHeart podcast.