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Breaking news right now here on Real America's Voice. Unfiltered, these people are domestic terrorists and unapologetic. We're here to take a stand for God and country. Does feel good. America's Voice live starts now. Welcome to America's Voice live. I'm Secret is Tuesday 30th September in the year of our Lord 2025. As always, thank you for joining me here in Real America's Voice. We truly appreciate you getting here. We've got a lot to get to today, from President Trump's peace plan for Gaza to Pete Hegseth's unprecedented meeting with US Military leaders from all over the world. And so much. Let's dive right in, shall we? President Trump aiming to stabilize the ongoing war in Gaza with a newly proposed peace plan. The Plan is a 20 point proposal which if agreed to, would see a swift ceasefire in Gaza, the release of all the remaining hostages and a number of Palestinian prisoners in Israel as well. It also calls for an increased flow of humanitarian aid and the eventual transfer of control over the territory to an interim administration of Palestinian technocrats overseen by an international board of peace chaired by President Donald Trump. The plan ultimately disarms a terror organization known as Hamas and promises the reconstruction of Gaza from the ground up. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu through his support behind the peace plan. The question now is whether Hamas will agree as well. President Trump said that Hamas will have three or four days to make a decision and respond. The president also stated that there's not much room for negotiation here and that if the deal was denied, then he would give Israel the green light to do whatever they need to do given the ongoing situation to discuss. This is former Navy SEAL and fellow at the Honor Foundation, Bill Brown and former army captain and founder of RestoreTheMilitary.com Drug Doug Truax. Gentlemen, thank you for being here.
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Thank you for having me.
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Thanks for having us on.
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All right, Doug, let me start with you here today. Let's talk about this plan. 20 points, pretty comprehensive. Benjamin Netanyahu was there at the White House yesterday. He said yes, have not heard from Hamas yet. From my understanding. What is your initial takeaway? What's your gut feeling tell you about this?
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Well, it's tough with Hamas nowadays there. It's totally decimated. And so it's kind of gets down to like who you're really dealing with at this point. I think that pushing the envelope as hard as you possibly can to get this over with is the right thing to do. And, you know, there's a lot of pushback globally with the globalists against what Israel is doing. And so they're trying to offer up, hey, this is a reasonable plan going forward and anybody should take it and we get this thing concluded. If you're a leader of Hamas, we'll find an exit for you and all that stuff. But I tell you what, it's, it's doubtful that anything great happens other than it just keeps Israel gives them more space to keep doing what they're doing and get to a place where we avoid the next October 7th someday. And that's what they've always been after. So we'll see. It's great, it's a great new step. But, you know, I don't know, I wouldn't say I'm cautiously optimistic, somewhat always pessimistic with these cases. But Hamas needs to do something because they're, they're on the downslope and they got to find an exit here pretty quick.
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Yeah, there's not much left to exit with at this point. You're right about that, Doug. Bill, let me get you to weigh in on this. Obviously, it's, it's a 20 point plan. Donald Trump putting himself in charge of this operation for peace. What do you make of it?
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A lot of respect goes out to President Trump. He's done more on a historic level than anyone else to try to establish peace in the Middle East. You look at the Abraham Accords where four, he was able to establish normal relationships with Israel, four Islamic countries. You look at what he's trying to broker. Now, basically here's the truth. There's a lot of moderate Arabs out there and they want peace and prosperity and they know they need Israel's help to redevelop. So that's what he's trying to do. President Trump's trying to try to make a deal here. He's trying to give, he's trying to give them a way out. You know, he's trying to give and he's trying to give. He's trying to establish peace. And how is he trying to do that? Well, what is he trying to do? Number one, Hamas, they can't stay in power anymore. And so he's trying to give basically a plan where Hamas gets phased out. And he's, he's developing leaders in the Arab world like Qatar and Saudi Arabia to help in this process.
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What do you think? That, and Doug, I'll come back to you. Obviously, 140 countries around the world have now said they recognize Palestine formally. Soon Canada and others will join that, that conversation. 140 nations, United States not among them. Is that the next natural step here? Because that is something that Benjamin Netanyahu does not support. He wants the Board of Peace. He wants Donald Trump to chair that board. He wants to bring Hamas to an end. But 140 nations brings considerable pressure from around the world for there to be a change fundamentally in the Middle East. Your thoughts?
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Well, I think that it's best for us to hold the line on that. They're just wrong to advocate for that. Obviously. Look what's happened. You can't have a two state solution when one state says the other state's got to be wiped off the map. So that's never going to happen. Or Never should happen. I should say so I think we hold the line on that one and just convince everybody else that if we do want true peace, we got to go a different direction. That's what's going on with this is just say there's got to be different ways around this, that we can get to a place where we're not at war with people. Hamas is out, the people that are there trying to rebuild and create a new environment. But, you know, regardless of what those 140 think, it's not going to happen the way they want it to. That's just. That's just pie in the sky globalism. And, you know, a lot of this is just like, hey, we don't like the Israelis, you know, we don't like the Jewish state, so we're going to go after them perpetually. And so, yeah, you eventually arrive at a place, 140 nations. But, hey, we're the superpower on the globe and we're going to hold our ground. I would imagine President Trump's going to hold his ground, as well he should, and find ways to broker a peace agreement because he's proven that he can do stuff like that. And we just got to keep hanging in there. And the Israelis have got to feel like they're safe. They got to defend themselves. I mean, this all started October 7th when a thousand people were killed and kidnapped and everything else. And so all this has got to come to an end. And this is the way out. I think.
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Yeah, it might be. All right, John, I want to shift gears here to what was discussed today. 800 flag officers, generals. You've got people from all over the world coming in from Africa, from Europe, from Asia. You've got admirals, and like I said, 800 flag officers in all. Doug, let me start with you on this one. What does this mean? What are you hearing from? Obviously, you guys both know people that are still there. Doug, from what I understand, there's going to be a refocus of attention on the Western Hemisphere. Less focus on Europe, let's focus on Asia, let's focus on Africa and focusing on problems like Venezuela. And to me, I've got to be honest, if I'm sitting in Caracas right now, I'm a little nervous as to what's coming next for Venezuela. Your thoughts, Doug?
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Yeah, absolutely. Well, when we have Maduro and those guys are talking about, you know, unstable actions to get well, to destabilize our country through different actions, then, hey, we got to push back at them. And they should be concerned you know, we've been, some of these boats out in the water have been going down and, you know, it's just a matter of time before they keep pushing it too far and we have to do something else. I'm not for regime change or anything like that, but we definitely have to send the message that times are different now. And I think Secretary Hegseth, getting everybody together in a room like that, I think it was phenomenal. Everybody in that room, by the way, having been in the military, has at one time or another, many times. If they were a platoon leader, they got all their platoon together. If they're a company commander, they got their company together, brigade commander, they got the whole brigade together. So everybody in there understands that this is his way of getting everybody together and getting everybody on the same page going forward, because there's been a lot of different messages and, and you know, he's been doing great work here and there and making, making things happen. But to have everybody in one spot like that, get them on the same page, get them in the war fighting mode, it will make people like Venezuela much more nervous going forward because our military's back and, and we're, we're, we're a force to be reckoned with, always have been. But we're getting our head straight now.
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Bill, what, what I'm picking up here in the back channel chatter, if you will. Venezuela could have, we could have open operations there within 10 or 14 days. Open operations focusing on drug cartels and other issues with the Maduro regime. What do you think the posturing is here? What do you think the focus is? What are you hearing from people that know.
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Well, I know the Secretary of War. We're good friends. He's a war fighter. He believes in putting our nation first, like the President, and putting our war fighters first. He's not about regime change. He's about doing what's necessary to protect us, which is the government's number one responsibility. Now, you look at some of the narcotics that are coming through our border, our previously open borders, and you look at the harm and the families and the travesty into American lives that cost the President and the Secretary of War are right for addressing that. Now, what's, it's basically, it's a message of deterrence. We're going to do what we have to do to protect the American people. That's what the president's about. That's what the Secretary of War is about.
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Yeah. And Doug, part of the focus today. And President Trump spoke to these flag officers as well, part of the focus today is about culture. Culture. Pete Heg says same thing. You want to grow a beard, be in Special Forces. I'm paraphrasing a little bit. I don't know what the beards were like when you guys were there, but I'm guessing they were. There were plenty of them to go around at that time because that's what real men do, right? If you're gonna go out and be in the special unit, that's what happens. Does the culture need to change? This wokeism, this. Well, we saw men dressed up as women in our military during the last administration. Is it time for a culture change in the United States military?
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100%. We've been running a website called Restore the Military and we've got 103 different Admirals and generals on there that have been embraced the DEI concept. And that's really what Secretary Hegseth is after. He's not after people who followed orders about DEI under the horrible administrations of Obama and Biden. He's looking for people that embrace the DEI concept and pushed it out there as hard as they could. They need to go. And we've got them on our website too. So. And I. So there's, you know, he's doing a great work. We're here to help and so. So we're definitely doing as much as we can there. But I tell you what he did today with resetting everybody to get everybody in a room and say, we got 10 points coming out and here's. Here they are. It changes the entire culture. Because if you are a one star and you want to do something and the two star above you says something, well, maybe we shouldn't do that. And they're like talking like the old way all at once to our say is like, well, you remember what Hexa said about we were all there together, so we have to do this differently now going forward. So it kind of resets everybody going forward. And he did make the comment, hey, if what I'm saying makes your heart sink, then you know, there's the door and that's, that's what we got to do. But everybody else in the room, I think they're pretty excited about that, you know, pretty excited about it.
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Look, the military is here to do a couple of things, break big things and win wars. That's it. And unfortunately, that involves sometimes killing people. But that's what the military is there to do. It's the number one thing to do for this government, to defend the people. Bill, I'm going to give you the last word here, your thoughts on what you heard there today and bring us home.
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The secretary of War. It's about command and control. That's what he's doing. He's getting command and control. It's about discipline. He's disciplining it as leaders and he's putting out a message out there. Number one, the highest standards. And that includes our officers. That includes the highest officers. You're going to meet the minimum PT standards across the board. Number two, guess what, fafo, we are not messing around. This is the United States military. Our number one job and our only job is to protect the American people. And without a doubt, President Trump and the secretary of war are going to give the American military the tools they need to be successful.
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Gentlemen, I appreciate you being here today. Bill Brown, Doug Truax, thank you both for spending time watching out for the rest of us here back at home and for the job that you did while you're in the service. Thank you. And thank you for being here, Steve. Thank you.
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Thank you.
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All right, up after the break. As we discussed earlier, President Trump addressing the military leaders along with Pete Hegseth where he explained that America is being invaded from within. We'll explore that more when we come back.
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As we've been discussing in detail, Secretary of War Pete Hegseth today as well as President Trump addressed hundreds of military officers at an in person meeting to announce directives for troops and where we're going in the future. These directives included male level standards for physical fitness and the end of woke culture within the military. You knew this was coming. It's time to build a serious military again. President Trump also explained that defending the homeland is the military's first and top priority. Instead of defending the borders of other countries, we will be defending our own. Here's what he said. But we are under invasion from within. We're stopping it very quickly. After spending trillions of dollars defending the borders of foreign countries. With your help, we're defending the borders of our country from now on. Yeah. An invasion from within America. Facing ongoing issues of political violence, anti ICE Riders and the newly designated terrorist organization known as as antifa. Attacks against ICE have only increased, all thanks to the left's hateful rhetoric. In one, in one way, a rhetoric that's changed over time. Take a look at Bill Clinton's State of The Union address, 1995. Listen to this. Our administration has moved aggressively to secure our borders more by hiring a record number of new border guards, by deporting twice as many criminal aliens as ever before, by cracking down on illegal hiring, by barring welfare benefits to illegal aliens. In the budget I will present to you, we will try to do more to speed the deportation of illegal aliens who are arrested for crimes, to better identify illegal aliens in the workplace as recommended by the commission headed by former Congresswoman Barbara Jordan. We are a nation of immigrants, but.
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We are a nation of laws that would get Bill Clinton disqualified in 2025. As a Democrat, he wasn't the only one. By the way, Senator Hillary Clinton, Senator Joe Biden said very similar things in the years after that. Here's me to discuss this. The former commander of the West Virginia Air National Guard, General Chris Walker. General, thank you for being here.
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My absolute pleasure. As a matter of fact, I tell you what, all of the GOP need to use those sound bites from Clinton, from both of the Clintons and Biden saying those same things and say, is this truly MAGA or is this American?
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Well, exactly. Joe Biden went a step further because he was pressed in 2007. A sound bite. I was watching today about sanctuary cities. Would you allow that? Absolutely not. It violates the rule of law. What happened to the Democrats, what happened to the rule of law in this country?
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Well, I'm going to say that slowly but surely the Democratic Party has been infiltrated by Marxism and we have some brave. Well, actually, all I can think of is one brave soul within the Democratic Party, Fetterman. But the rest of them are too afraid to say what they really think in support of Americans. And, and that is a problem. But that's going to, that is going to destroy the Democratic Party because if they can't, isn't it remarkable? Stand up for Americans, they're going to lose.
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Yeah. Isn't it remarkable John Fetterman, the senator from Pennsylvania, who had all sorts of cognitive problems and challenges because of a stroke leading up to his election and all sorts of terrible things were said about him. I might have said a couple of things in snide comment. I admit it. I was wrong. He actually is the one guy who at least pushes back. Now he's a Democrat, but at least he gets this right. At least he gets this now in Portland.
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He's America first, actually.
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Well, there you go, Right? America matters first. You know, can you imagine John Kennedy today saying we need a nation of minute men willing to fight for democracy, willing to fight for liberty and freedom. I'm paraphrasing John Kennedy, but that's right down the alley of what he said on the all the time during his time as senator and president, isn't it?
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He would never make it today. Today he would be driven out on a rail by the Democratic Party. They would have pitchforks and torches if John F. Kennedy were saying were alive and saying what he said back then.
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So let me ask you this as a general in the National Guard there, Portland, the attacks on the ICE facilities, the attacks on the federal facilities there, it is the place of the National Guard to defend those national facilities, isn't it your opinion?
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Okay, so I'm going to say so all of the oaths that officers in the National Guard in the, in the DOD or Department of War, police officers, all of them say to serve, protect defenders. But the only oath that I, or the only oath that I know of, and it comes from the Constitution, Article 2, Section 2, Clause 1, the President vows to, has to protect, defend and preserve. And so it is our president's job to make sure that law and order is upheld, especially federal law. And if these, these antifa people are coming up there attacking our, our troops or, or our law enforcement officers and the mayor or the governor isn't doing anything about it, the President has an Obligation. And so all of those who are criticizing him just have not. Ever read the Constitution.
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You know, I like that part. You know, I think a lot of people miss that word. I missed that word until you just said that, General. And I want to thank you for that. Preserve. Preserve. And if that means putting the national guard into Washington D.C. or Memphis or New Orleans or Portland, then that's what has to happen. You know, I just checked again. I do this almost every day on the program. Here I go and check how many murders there have been in the Nation's capital since the 11th of August when the National Guard went in. The number is 10. The number is 10. If you extrapolate that out for a year, it's less than 70 homicides. Sir, there haven't been less than 70 homicides in a year in Washington, D.C. in my lifetime or yours. Not once. Not in my life. It works, right? Not in mine either. And it works. And look, anybody that would object to making Memphis safer or Philadelphia or Chicago, they're out of their minds, aren't they?
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Lord of mercy, if you just watch some of the videos of what is going on out there, it is absolute mayhem. And then for the mayor of Chicago or Governor Pritzer to get on the camera and say everything is okay, it reminds me of those memes of the person sitting in the house that's burning down around them saying everything is fine. No one is buying it. Even the people in the south side of Chicago, all the black people are saying, yes, come and help us. So the mayor and the governor are not listening. Matter of fact, black people there at assembly meetings and meetings with the mayor, they're cussing them out. But no one on the left wants to talk about that. They want to keep the narrative going that the president is so called taking over cities and invading us and threatening our democracy. He is helping us. Now, the National Guard is not a permanent solution because we have to get the prosecutors out there to keep these evildoers in jail. North Carolina and South Carolina recently, when they let out these criminals who are.
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Multiple felonies, you're right. The National Guard is not a permanent solution. Chemotherapy is not a permanent solution for cancer, but you have to jumpstart the process and you have to knock these numbers down. With 10 homicides in Washington D.C. since the 11th of August. Think about that. It's October tomorrow. 10 homicides in that period of time is remarkable. I tip my hat to the President and sadly, I'm out of time. I appreciate you being here, General, as always. Nice to see you again.
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It's been my absolute pleasure. Hope to see you again.
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Thank you, sir. All right. Up after the break. He is terrific. Up after the break. The NFL has announced that Puerto Rican American rapper Bad Bunny will be performing at The Super Bowl 60 halftime show, a decision that it doesn't sit with a lot of folks considering his recent statements about ice and America in general. Details up next.
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Well, the National Football League announced Sunday that it picked Benito Antonio Martinez Ocasio or Benito Antonio Martinez Ocasio or Bad Bunny for Super Bowl 60s halftime show. Super Bowl 60s halftime show he's Puerto Rican. Three time Grammy winner who raps in Spanish. Blew up in 2016 as one of the biggest Spanish recording artists that there is. All right, but here's the hang up. He canceled his US Tour saying he wouldn't book any American dates over fears his fans would be arrested outside concerts by ice agents. Let me remind you, he's Puerto Rican, which means he's an American. A video now has resurfaced of a concert where fans reported they felt like they were under a spell during his song because it was so demonic. Have you seen this? The video for the song shows Stephen King's original Salem's Lot, a vampire movie where Bunny turns into the vampire and is the vampire. Fans call it very dark evil and they called it satanic. Recently he recorded a video of people being arrested in Puerto Rico by ICE agents. Bunny called them mother effers and sobs, essentially giving the finger to ice. Bunny blames ICE for his actions, but he didn't refuse the NFL. The NFL apparently good with all of it bad. Bunny said he was thinking about it and posted on his social I think I'll just do it one day. In the United States, the NFL has lost its mind, some say. Here was a an idea that was put forth though. Weigh in on this one, would you? And you can go to stevegruber.com send me your emails. Tell me about this one. What if Turning Point USA put on an alternative halftime show? Think about that. What if TP USA put on an alternative halftime show? Watch your football game, then turn that off. Don't give them the ratings and come back. Don't support satanic ritual nonsense. If you want to watch a football game, Boom. How about that? T.P. uSA? There's your idea. President I saw that. It's not my idea. Not original, but I saw it. I thought I would share with you, stevegruber.com, some of your thoughts. President Trump agreed to meet with Democrats today ahead of a Senate vote that could shut down the government. The House has already passed a clean bipartisan bill to keep services like federal benefits, fema, WIC and military pay on track, Speaker Mike Johnson told Fox News Democrat Senator Chuck Schumer and Representative Hakeem Jeffries are just playing politics with Americans lives. Listen, here's what he said. I would credit President Trump for calling us into the Oval Office yesterday. He's operating in good faith. There is no daylight at all between the president of the United States and the Republican majorities in the House and Senate. We're all united. We want to keep the government open. We have done our work. The House passed the bill bipartisan, by the way.
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We had one Democrat join us.
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Okay, but they have to have 60 votes in the Senate. Chuck Schumer's got to release a handful of people to come along to do the right thing and keep the doors open for the, for the country. Johnson said Schumer is driving a shutdown out of political desperation just to oppose President Trump and of course, abandoning the American people. Government shutdowns begin if Congress fails to pass a spending bill on a continuing resolution by midnight tonight. Midnight tonight. That's right. Essential services like Medicare Medicaid, Veterans affairs and Border Security will continue but non essential government work would stop now. I heard over 100,000 people quitting today. Has that happened? I'm not sure. Could somebody tell me? Democrats want to extend Obamacare premium subsidies and warn that costs will jump without Congress acting. The Senate has until midnight like I said, to pass a short term deal or the government closes. This is Democrats third shutdown under Trump. Third. Third. There have been 10 shutdowns since 1983. This is the third, all under Donald Trump because Democrats always shut him down. So it is do you owe back taxes? Are you still looking for unfiled returns? Did you forget to file for an extension? Good questions, right? The October 15 deadline fast approaching and time is well running out. If you haven't gathered all your documents or made in any estimated payments, you can soon be targeted by the irs. They can garnish your wages, freeze your bank accounts or even seize your property. Did you know that? But there's help available. Tax Network usa, a nationwide tax firm, has helped taxpayers save over a billion dollars in tax debt. They filed hundreds of thousands of tax returns and assisted thousands in reducing their tax burdens. And they can help you too. Don't wait. Visit tnusa.com rav or call 1-800-905-8000 for a 100 free consultation. One short call. The experts at Tax Network USA will guide you through some simple questions to determine how much you can save. Take action now before it's too late. Visit tnusa.com rav or call 1-800-905-8000. All right, up after the break, I'll discuss the attack on that Michigan Mormon church and try to discern why attacks on churches becoming more prevalent. Details Coming up.
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You know, it seems that the rise of violent incidents is happening all around us. And now even those attending service at church are in danger. More and more often we see it. It happened, not this, just this past Sunday at a church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Mormons. Grand Blake, Michigan, not more than an hour from where I'm sitting on a violent attack by a lone gunman. Thomas Sanford, age 40, rammed his truck into the side of the main entrance of the church, opened fire and then threw gasoline everywhere, lit the place on fire. Burn it all to the ground. Yeah, burn it all to the ground. And then the officers gave chase, engaged in a shootout with the suspect. When they arrived, they killed him at the scene. But aftermath has four fatalities, plus the killer, eight others injured. It's without a doubt a senseless targeting of those who are open about their faith because he had no connection to this congregation except that he had told somebody a couple of days earlier that he hated Mormons. He had dated a Mormon woman in Utah a few years ago. He hated Mormons. That was his motivation. Join me to discuss is the president of Summit Ministries, Dr. Jeff Myers. Jeff, nice to see you. Look, people are being targeted, whether it's school children at mass in Minnesota, Mormons at a Sunday service in Michigan. And this is becoming far too common. I mean, the hatred of people going to church, any church, it seems, is really off the charts. Why? What's going on?
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Well, it is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, but also Catholic churches and Jewish congregations. The number of incidents of violence against Jewish people has skyrocketed just within the last two years. So this is an attack on faith. I was visiting yesterday for my podcast with Aaron Ren, who's a journalist, and he said, look, from the 1960s to the 1990s, people had a positive view of faith. Then from the 1990s to the 2000, say 2014, he said they had a neutral view of faith. From that point forward, there has been a negative view of Faith. So people of faith are viewed as the reinforcing the patriarchy. They are now viewed as evil by a lot of people who are very disturbed, people whose lives revolve around social media and the Internet. And you know it. I don't know. You could look at social media. You could. You. We all recognize that social media outlets monetize anger. They make. They feed you things that they think will distress you. And there are just a handful of people in this country who are sick and demented and violent and will do extreme things to hurt people just because of their faith.
D
Well, you know, and look, how many times can you call, well, you or me a Nazi or a fascist or a white supremacist or a white nationalist? You know what? And I'm. Here's the thing, Jeff. I'm white. I'm a Christian. I believe in America. Does that make me dangerous in 2025? Does that. Because. Does that make me a white nationalist? Am I the problem, Jeff? Because I don't see it. But that's what they paint us with, this broad brush. And I've talked about it here for a while. I would not be surprised if I woke up tomorrow morning and some poor schlub gets gunned down because he's wearing a red hat. Nothing more. Just some ordinary guy walking on the street. He gets gunned down because he's been called a Nazi and a fascist and a Trump supporter, and he gets murdered for it. Your thoughts?
J
Well, I was out in western Colorado here just a few days ago and visiting with some guys. And, you know, the conservative versus liberal labels don't even apply when it comes to violence of this kind. There are people out there whose whole worldview revolves around a conspiracy. And most people today do believe. Steve, you're the evil guy. I'm the evil guy. We're white, we're Christian, we're, you know, we're doing fine financially. All of those kinds of things make us the enemy. And for people who have a victim mindset, they believe that every problem they have in their lives must come from outside of themselves. So they have to figure out who is to blame, and they eliminate them. In the same way that if someone attacked you, you would defend yourself. And if that person died, that would be considered justifiable because you were under attack. That's how people view it today. They've completely lost the whole biblical idea that human beings have dignity as image bearers of God.
D
Well, and here's. Yeah, I mean, Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton just went and said this exact thing this Week and it's only Tuesday. She said this exact thing. You know, white men of a certain religion. I mean really. I mean some of the most. I mean, if I might be so bold, some of the most hateful people I encounter online these days are white liberal women. I mean these are, some of. These are the most hateful people I've ever encountered in my life. I mean, just hateful, spiteful, vicious, mean. Find your adjective. Right. That's right.
J
Well, whether the problem is the patriarchy and you've got to strike back against all males or whether the problem is, you know, a certain gender ideology that says that male and female exist as, as actual categories, whatever it happens to be, people who have a victim mindset believe that they are justified in lashing out against those with whom they disagree. And this gentleman in Michigan clearly had something against people in the LDS church and it was just absolutely tragic. And I think four people have died so far, Steve, but I don't think it's been reported. But they still have to go through the church because they don't think that everybody was able to escape. That body count will probably rise and the hatred against people of faith has got to stop.
D
What'd your advice be? We'll bring it back full circle here. Just real quick. Should churches have armed guards? All of them. All. Or religious schools or any of these institutions. Last word to you. Yep.
J
And I won't comment on how we do security at some ministries. Very significantly, it's not just armed guards. It's also having a special response system, communication system, hardening your church or institution against attacks. But yes, I absolutely believe that churches need to be in that position. Most churches that I go to to now to speak, I have more security at those events than just about any other events that I speak at because the churches have realized we cannot allow our parishioners to be put at risk just because they're.
D
No, we're all targets.
J
God. That's right there.
D
We are all targets today. That's. That's what that, that's the end result of all this horrible rhetoric. Dr. Jeff Myers always appreciate talking to you, sir. Thank you.
J
Thanks, Dave.
D
There you go. Alright, don't go anywhere. We'll be right back on avl.
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Remember they told you cell phones were going to give you freedom? Not really. But they're part of everyone's life now, aren't they? Chances are your grandma has one, too. But to use your phone, you need a service provider that not only gives you a great deal, but also shares the values of patriotism of America. That's where Patriot Mobile comes in. And their ever expanding coverage ensures customers get great coverage and a killer deal. Joining to discuss this is the vice president of strategic partnerships for Patriot Mobile, Danielle Buck. Danielle, nice to see you.
A
Steve. Good to be here.
D
I think I've had Patriot for about two years now. Yeah, a lot happened. Look, and the other thing, and I want to get into this in a moment, Patriot does a lot of great things for people when bad things happen. We're going to get to that. But let's talk about Patriot Mobile. Why did the company come to be in the first place but about 12 years, right? You guys came together, right? And I know you came together to create a phone company that held American values. Tell me why you did it.
A
Yeah. So our CEO Glenn Story, 12 years ago realized that the left was using everyday businesses to fund the things that they were all about. Right? And so somebody came to him and said, hey, why doesn't the right do the exact same thing? We are a Christian conservative wireless provider. Every single person watching has a cell phone, if not two, if not a watch or an iPad, et cetera. And so every one of you is paying a bill and he Realized either that money is going to be going towards something you believe in or to towards something you don't believe in. And most of these major carriers are giving money to Planned Parenthood to take away your gun rights to these things that quite frankly are against everything that our founding father stood for. And so he said, hey, I'm going to have a company that's going to do exactly the opposite. And so he started Patriot Mobile. And from that obviously we have partnered with amazing organizations to actually do the work, which I'm sure we'll talk about here in a second. But at the end of the day, we provide an amazing cell phone service. Like you said, you've been on it two years. It works exactly the same every single person in America. If your phone works now, your phone will work. With Patriot Mobile, we have all three of the major carriers and we can even provide two different carriers on one device which is really unique and special to Patriot Mobile. We call that Patriot Mobile one. But really, I think when you think about the inception and why is cell phones are just kind of the vehicle by which we feel like we're called to do, which is enhance God's mission and to stand for the things that he calls us to be about. And we do that by everyday people paying their cell phone bill with Patriot Mobile. So it truly is a family. A lot of times when we talk about Patriot Mobile, it's a family. We want every everyday Americans to be able to give money to the things that they care about. Right? Pro life causes, veterans, first responders, the first Amendment, things like we've been doing with TP USA for many, many years. And so those are the things that we get to let everyday Americans be part of something bigger than themselves by just paying a cell phone bill. And so obviously our CEO and CEO are very involved. I know they've been on your show many times. And they are just the amazing Christian people who kind of had this vision of saying, hey, everyday people can do something with their little bit. Right? And that just that faithfulness sometimes for us means cell phone service providing.
D
You know, you mentioned Turning Point usa. Obviously you guys work closely with Charlie Kirk. Obviously it's been, I don't know what you call it. It's been a numbing experience. It's been a, an adjustment. I don't know how to put it exactly. How's it been over there with you guys?
A
I mean, quite frankly, it rocked our world very deeply. We obviously have worked closely with Charlie, not just as a promoter, but and so being in this movement I think at the exact moment, you know, that day, that night, it just kind of wanted you to shy away from like, wait, could this happen to me? And then I think as I had a little bit of time with the Lord and those of us in the executive team kind of had conversations, is what we need to do is do what we're doing even bolder and stronger because that's who Charlie was. Because that's what the God of the universe that we all know and love, he made Charlie to be that way and he made each of us to do something too. And so it kind of like reinforced all of us of all, all that we're doing with tpusa, all that we're doing in First Amendment, all that we're doing in really all of the causes that we work with. There's so many to kind of double down, if that makes sense. And what I've seen since Charlie's assassination here, right, I've actually gotten to do a lot of media and Christians are kind of either in or they're out, right? The time for mediocre Christianity is gone. And so people are saying, I've heard about you guys, I've seen your commercials. I just haven't joined. I haven't taken the time. And what we're seeing is people are actually taking the time, spending that 20 minutes and actually joining Patriot Mobile because they realize every dollar does matter.
D
Well, one of the things I tell people because I've been a customer and a partner for what, two years, three years, whatever it's been now it's so easy to switch. You have an all US based service team so when you call, you can talk to somebody. It is because the nightmare used to be you try to change your cell phone provider, it would take half a day, you'd have to go to the store. None of that. It's really easy, folks. If you think, oh, it's a headache, it's really not. They make it really easy to Patriot Mobile, I want to talk about this before we got about a minute and a half here. You guys do a lot of great things. Western North Carolina, after the hurricane, you went in there and helped people out. After the floods in Texas, you go in and you help people out with chainsaws and food and you just do your. You do the American thing, you do the right thing, you do the neighborly thing. As Patriot Mobile, what have you been up to lately?
A
Well, we have been all over the place. We've been putting in God We Trust posters actually in schools in Western, in West all over West Virginia. And we wanted to do that, obviously to remind students that our rights come from God and not the government. We actually helped sponsor the Concern Women for America state training where they had people from all across the country go to D.C. and actually be equipped biblically on how to go back to their campuses because there was young Women for America who were working college campuses and obviously older ladies who go to the states. And so we got to sponsor that. We got to be at the Texas Youth Summit, which was dedicated to Charlie Kirk with record numbers. I think they had like 4,000 people this week. I think we have two or three events on top of what we're normally doing, actually, which I think you got to join us at the Jason Aldean Concerts. And so we do a lot of things right because Americans are everywhere and people that care about faith, family and freedom and every single person has a phone. And so we want people to know about us and to realize that it doesn't take long. It takes about 20 minutes to switch. So whether you're an individual, whether you're a family, whether you're a business, we'd love for you to join us. And it really does not take much time at all. And you get to be part of something much bigger than yourself.
D
Patriotmobile.com Rav that's how easy it is. Patriotmobile.com Rev or call 972 Patriot the promo codes Rev I think you might get a free month of service if you sign up right now. From my understanding. Patriot mobile.com rev really appreciate seeing you here, Danielle. Thank you so much.
A
Thank you, Steve.
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There you have it. Pagemobile.com RevLook I've had it for years. You can trust me. Go ahead and try it out. I'll be right back with what Makes America Wonderful and the question of the day.
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What makes America wonderful? I do it every day here because I want to make sure you leave here with a pleasant thought. There's so many serious things going on. You need something to put a smile on your face. We try to do it every day here for you. So that's the. That's the effort. That's what's behind it. Today's story comes to us from Flowery Branch, Georgia. Flowery Branch, Georgia, where a school and an auto shop rallied together to provide a new ride for a staff member who fell on very hard Financial Times. Mrs. Len is a Flowery Branch High School's parking security guard. And when the principal noticed the tire on her car showing wires, you know, the steel belts. Yeah. Wires sticking out. He offered to pay out of pocket to ensure Mrs. Len had a safe and reliable way to get to work the car. However, well, it was in desperate need of repairs. And when Christian Brothers Automotive heard about the problem and the situation, they decided to step in and gift Mrs. Lenz a 2014 Altima with a new transmission, ensuring she had ample transportation to get to work. Additionally, STEM students at Flowery Branch, they stepped in to detail the car, making the gesture even more special. Where Mrs. Len was presented with the gift. Rallying together to help somebody in the community that needs, you know, needs a helping hand. Always a great gesture. And the selfless effort by the students at Flowery Branch and indication of what makes America wonderful. There is hope for the future. A lot of good kids out there. Trust me, I see them every day. I see them every day. All right, question of the day. Who do you think would be responsible for a government shutdown tonight at midnight? Sharon Cole says it's the Democrats. This a clean CR from Biden's time, a clean continuing resolution. John Hogan writes schumer's responsible and it's because he is being threatened with AOC running against him. Aoc, okay. Linda Harris, the Democrats are responsible. They presented unreasonable demands for this CR and they, they knew it. It's deliberate. They actually hate America, some would argue. Patrick Bergeron writes this. Democrats, they will say and try to blame Trump. Sad to say there will be people who will believe that horse crap. Well, that's a pretty good way to put it. Rebecca Martin has this. We cannot give Democrats any money for illegals ever again. They are not citizens of the United States. A lot of people say that's where the money. A trillion dollars to those folks. Jason Gross has this. The Democrats are solely responsible for the government shutdown. Their demands, such as funding for health care for illegals, are completely unacceptable. Remember, follow me on social media, all the usual places, you'll find me at Steve Gruber Show. You can join and put your answers in for the question today, we'll read it right here on the big TV screen. And that super screen, that Jumbotron in your living room, right? And then you can also see bowling there right next to me every day, too, because he'll still, he'll pop, right, and say, gruber, what's up? Just like this. There he is.
H
That was good. Oh, right there on the jumbo guys. They're listening, Steve. See, the controller's listening. There you go. Yeah, I don't like my control.
D
How you doing?
H
Don't listen. Last day of the quarter October starts the fourth quarter tomorrow. And I watch markets. I know we start the market the beginning of every show. And what a month it's been, Steve, last five years, what a year of September. Last five. What a year. But last five September, the market averaged down 4% in the NASDAQ and the S and P this month. This September, Trump's back. We're up 4% in the Nasdaq and we're up 5%. I'm sorry, 5% Nasdaq, 4% in the S and P. That is just a wonderful indicator.
D
So, so I had a guy tell me that normally that would mean that we'll be up for the, for the fourth quarter as well. October could be a 50, 50 proposition when you have an up September like that. But for the rest of the year looks pretty bullish for us.
H
I would hold off making that assessment. October's. You're right. The big crashes have happened in October. The October 19th crash in the 19 was 89.
D
87.
H
87. And also the big, the big stock market crash. The, the grand poobah of stock market also October of 19, 29.
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29.
H
Yeah, tough month in October. September is the weakest month in the Dow Jones weakest month of all 12 months. You do tend to do better towards the end of the year. But here's the other thing. Hedge funds have done very well this year, as you pointed out. It's been up, up, up the whole year. They closed their books September 30th, so they're going to be out of the market for the next 90 days or so, certainly the next 30 days until they see something that they like. Just to be a little wary. I'd be a very cautious investor for the rest of the year here.
D
Yeah, keep your powder dry as they just keep your powder dry. See what happens. Keep your powder dry.
H
But here you go.
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Episode Date: September 30, 2025
Host: Steve Gruber
Featured Guests: Doug Truax, Bill Brown, Chris Walker, Dr. Jeff Myers, Danielle Buck
Main Theme: Unfiltered Analysis of Politics, Culture, and Current Events from a Conservative American Perspective
This episode of "America’s Voice Live" focuses on several urgent issues: President Trump’s new Gaza peace plan, a high-level military summit led by Secretary of War Pete Hegseth, increasing attacks on faith communities, cultural and political divides in America, headline news, and stories that illustrate core American values. Host Steve Gruber is joined by military veterans, generals, thought leaders, and business executives to deliver insight and reaction while engaging passionate debate.
Segment Start: [01:41]
Details of the Plan:
Reactions:
“He’s trying to give them a way out… to establish peace.”
— Bill Brown, [05:20]
“If you’re a leader of Hamas, we’ll find an exit for you… But it’s doubtful anything great happens other than it just gives Israel more space to keep doing what they’re doing.”
— Doug Truax, [04:10]
“Hamas, they can’t stay in power anymore... President Trump is developing leaders in the Arab world like Qatar and Saudi Arabia to help in this process.”
— Bill Brown, [05:20]
Segment: [06:26]
“You can’t have a two-state solution when one state says the other state’s got to be wiped off the map.”
— Doug Truax, [07:02]
Segment Start: [08:26]
“He’s getting command and control. It’s about discipline… you’re going to meet the minimum PT standards across the board.”
— Bill Brown, [13:56]
“To have everybody in one spot… will make people like Venezuela much more nervous going forward because our military’s back, and we’re a force to be reckoned with.”
— Doug Truax, [09:13]
Segment: [11:43]
Segment Start: [16:45]
“We are also a nation of laws.” — Bill Clinton, played at [18:29]
“The President has an obligation… all those criticizing him have not ever read the Constitution.”
— Gen. Chris Walker, [21:28]
Segment Start: [34:07]
“It's an attack on faith… People have a victim mindset and eliminate those they think are to blame.”
— Dr. Jeff Myers, [35:37], [37:42]
“Some of the most hateful people I encounter online… are white liberal women. I mean, just hateful, spiteful, vicious, mean.”
— Steve Gruber, [38:42]
Segment Start: [27:11]
Segment Start: [30:07]
“Democrats are solely responsible for the government shutdown… Their demands, such as funding for health care for illegals, are completely unacceptable.”
— Read from listener, Jason Gross, [53:13]
Segment Start: [42:52]
“The time for mediocre Christianity is gone… People are actually taking the time, and every dollar does matter.”
— Danielle Buck, [46:15]
Segment Start: [51:33]
Segment Start: [54:32]
“He’s trying to give them a way out… to establish peace.” — Bill Brown, [05:20]
“You can’t have a two-state solution when one state says the other state’s got to be wiped off the map.” — Doug Truax, [07:02]
“The President has an obligation… all those criticizing him have not ever read the Constitution.” — Gen. Chris Walker, [21:28]
“Some of the most hateful people I encounter…are white liberal women. I mean, just hateful, spiteful, vicious, mean.” — Steve Gruber, [38:42]
“The time for mediocre Christianity is gone…” — Danielle Buck, [46:15]
The episode is fast-paced, unapologetically conservative, and features energetic debate. The tone is urgent and combative on topics like security and “wokeism,” but slips into empathy and hope when highlighting positive community stories. Throughout, Gruber and guests deliver pointed, often blunt commentary designed to challenge mainstream narratives and inspire political/cultural action.
If you missed this episode, you’ll get a comprehensive conservative outlook on urgent news: Middle East peace efforts, US military doctrine, domestic unrest, the culture war, alternative business solutions, and real stories of Americans helping one another. The combination of analysis, interviews, and personal testimony makes this episode both topical and emotionally resonant.