Bolling! - February 17th, 2026

Summary

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Real America’s Voice: Bolling! – February 17, 2026

Main Theme Overview

This episode, hosted by Eric Bolling, delivers a fiery examination of current political controversies, government bureaucracy, and cultural flashpoints, staying true to the Real America’s Voice ethos of "real news, honest views." The episode focuses on alleged political weaponization in healthcare funding, high-profile crime cases, a heated cultural debate over assimilation and American identity, and pointed critiques of prominent progressive politicians. Notably, the episode features interviews with retired Sheriff and Congressional candidate Mark Lamb and Florida Congressman Randy Fine, addressing controversies at the intersection of politics, law enforcement, and national culture.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Market Recap and Introduction (02:04)

• Eric kicks off the main content with a quick overview of Wall Street’s closing numbers (Dow, S&P, Nasdaq, oil, gold, crypto).
• Lighthearted tone: “Not enough. Gold got hit... I still like bitcoin. I love gold and I still like bitcoin.”

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2. Hospital Funding, Medicaid, and Political Weaponization (03:59–13:00)

• Main Argument: Eric alleges that the federal bureaucracy is weaponizing Medicaid funding, particularly targeting Florida due to political bias.
  • Florida's Medicaid program is lauded for its low per-person spending and anti-fraud measures.
  • Bureaucratic delays from CMS (Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services) are characterized as "extortion under the guise of progress."
  • Perceived pattern: blue states (CA, NY, MN) sail through funding, while red states face audits and obstacles.
• Political Cynicism: Eric rails against the idea that healthcare, a life-and-death issue, would become a political battlefield.
• Notable Quote:
  • “Now imagine a world where your hospital survival depends on a bureaucrat's mood in Washington D.C., but wait, you don't have to imagine it. It's actually happening right now.” (04:05)
  • "That's not policy, folks. That's extortion under the guise of progress." (10:15)
• Call to Action: Approve Florida’s funding and keep politics out of healthcare decisions.

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3. Crime Update: The Nancy Guthrie Case & Law Enforcement Perspectives (16:37–27:28)

Guest: Mark Lamb, Retired Pinal County Sheriff & Congressional Candidate

• Case Overview: Dissects ongoing developments in the Nancy Guthrie case—a high-profile missing person.
  • DNA Evidence: Sheriff Lamb explains the investigative process, including use of familial DNA databases.
  • Law Enforcement Dynamics: Tension between local vs. federal (FBI) involvement; potential chain-of-custody issues.
    • Quote: “I'm good with them keeping the case. I'm good with them maintaining chain of custody on all evidence that they have…” (21:54)
  • Death Penalty Jurisdiction: Discusses the complexity of federal vs. state prosecution in capital cases.
• Media Coverage & Prioritization: Lamb notes disparity in attention between this and missing children’s cases.
  • Quote: “There's 2, 3, 400 calls for service at the sheriff's office as we speak every day... tens of thousands of children that go missing every year in this country... Those would deserve our attention even more than a case like this. Yet we don't see that.” (25:23)
• Assessment: Lamb suspects the case is likely a “crime gone wrong” and is skeptical about finding Guthrie alive after so much time has passed.

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4. Cultural Debate: Dogs, Islam, and American Identity (41:20–60:28)

Guest: Congressman Randy Fine (Florida)

• Controversial Post: Fine received backlash for saying, "If they force us to choose, the choice between dogs and Muslims is not a difficult one." (42:20)
• Contextual Clarification:
  • Response to activist Nerdeen Kiswani's post suggesting dogs should not be kept as indoor pets in New York ("they're unclean").
  • Fine and Bolling argue against cultural accommodation at the expense of “American values.”
    • “People coming to this country need to assimilate to the way we do things here, not what they bring from their own private countries. Assimilate to Americanism or get out..." – Eric (44:00)
    • Fine: “The deal with immigration has always been you assimilate, you integrate. I’m Jewish... but we don't demand that American grocery stores stop selling [pork]. And that's the difference here." (44:14)
• Liberal Critique: Both speakers criticize Democrats for focusing on alleged bigotry, instead of defending cultural norms like dog ownership.
  • “All I know is, I’m fighting for the dogs, and they can fight to get rid of our dogs, and I don’t think that’s going to be a winner.” – Fine (45:33)
• Concerns Over Sharia Law: The discussion broadens into alarmist warnings about "Sharia creep"—invoking fears of Islamic influence over American society (calls to prayer in NYC, welfare fraud by immigrants).
  • “There are 57 countries in the world that are Sharia compliant. This ain’t going to be number 58.” – Fine (47:19)
  • Fine calls NYC Mayor Mamdani a "Muslim terrorist and a communist" (58:20).
• Assimilation vs. Multiculturalism: The segment concludes with a call to prioritize American culture and warns against “fundamentally altering the fabric of our country.”
  • Eric: “You want to come over this country, assimilate, or get the hell out. I agree with you.” (59:58)
• Recurring Theme: “Don’t mess with our dogs.”

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5. Other Major Political & Cultural Talking Points

• Transgender Violence Narrative (29:58): Eric points to a mass shooting by a transgender individual, extrapolating to a broader critique of trans rights activism and violence statistics.
  • “If Transgender represents about 1% of the population, let's do the math on what rate they're killing people... blows away any other group.” (32:03)
• Progressive Politics and Critique:
  • Clips and commentary on Rep. Pramila Jayapal, Jasmine Crockett, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC), and Hillary Clinton.
  • Mockery and dismissal of progressive policies, claims of Marxist/communist influence, and a call for wealth tax skepticism.
    • “Let’s do it now. Right, wealth tax. Yeah, why not do it now before I run for president?” – Eric on AOC (34:08)
• Hillary Clinton and Epstein:
  • Skepticism toward Clinton's explanations about links to Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell (35:19–35:55).

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6. Recurring Personal Development Segment: “The Edge” Program Plugs (various throughout)

• Eric repeatedly references and promotes his new show, “The Edge,” detailing its focus on self-improvement, motivation, and notable guests.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Medicaid & Bureaucracy:

  • “Health care should be the least political issue in America... But it makes even more sense in a life and death circumstance like we in right now. This is America. And anything can become a knife fight.” – Eric (04:19)

• On Media & Missing Persons:

  • “I'd only hope that our media would cover [missing children]... those would [deserve] our attention even more than a case like this. Yet we don't see that.” – Sheriff Mark Lamb (25:23)

• On Assimilation:

  • “I'm Jewish. Many of my fellow Jews don't eat pork. But we don't demand that American grocery stores stop selling it as a result. And that's the difference here.” – Rep. Randy Fine (44:14)

• On Sharia Law:

  • “There are 57 countries in the world that are Sharia compliant. This ain't going to be number 58.” – Rep. Randy Fine (47:19)

• On Dogs as American Identity:

  • “Dogs are so important to America, to our culture... They make children and adults happy, they help people out of depression, and they're loyal and loving. So what? First step, remove dogs from homes. Second, calls to prayer at all hours the day in their cities. Oh wait... That's already happening.” – Eric (51:17)

• On Political Marketing:

  • “I posted that way intentionally because I wanted to create awareness to the issue. I used to be a marketer, and this is marketing.” – Rep. Randy Fine (57:07)

• On Current Politics:

  • “We got leftists, we have liberals, we have Muslims, and we got some rhinos who are just mucking up the whole system.” – Eric Bolling (59:58)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Market recap and show open: 02:04–04:00
• Medicaid funding and health policy rant: 04:00–13:45
• Guest Mark Lamb, Guthrie Case analysis: 16:37–27:28
• Rep. Randy Fine, “dogs vs. Islam” debate, assimilation: 41:20–46:03
• Expanded discussion of assimilation, Sharia, NYC politics: 46:03–51:17, 57:07–60:28

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Tone

• Aggressively critical, combative, and populist; uses humor, sarcasm, and direct calls to action.
• Language throughout is unapologetically partisan, with recurring jabs at Democrats, progressive policies, and “the swamp.”

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This episode of Real America’s Voice is an intense, unapologetic tour of cultural and political battle lines in today’s America. With direct, sometimes inflammatory commentary, host Eric Bolling and his guests dissect everything from federal healthcare funding “weaponization,” to media bias in missing persons cases, to the future of American identity and assimilation. Sharply critical of progressive politics and fiercely defensive of “American values” (exemplified here in the debate over dog ownership), the show offers a window into the worldview of populist-conservative media and its priorities in 2026.

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And crypto, for whatever reason, is just floundering under 68,067. Big number at 64, big number at 62. 62 is halfway from the 127,000 high down to 125,000 high down to 62. Takes out 62 on the downside and 59, it's probably going to 35. This is just what the technical traders do. Just telling, don't shoot the messenger. I still like bitcoin. I love gold and I still like bitcoin. All right, folks, only in America, hospital funding. Hospital funding becomes a political UFC fight. As if we don't fight over everything. Enough already. Why not throw in a fight over whether or not people get health care? We've already seen how the left made a pandemic all about politics and control. So then shouldn't surprise us all that Medicaid, which is supposed to be a predictable and non political issue, naturally Washington turns it into a hostage situation again. Now imagine a world where your hospital survival depends on a bureaucrat's mood in Washington D.C. but wait, you don't have to imagine it. It's actually happening right now. And I think it's time for Dr. Oz to step in, don't you? In a nutshell, here's the story. Florida's hospitals are on the line right now. Bureaucrats are stalling and politics is everywhere, even where it should not be. You know, if you ever want to understand why Americans are so cynical, fed up with government, look no further than the circus we call health care policy. In theory, Florida theory, of course. Health care should be the least political issue in America. People get sick, people need hospitals, hospitals need funding, end of story. I'm a math guy. I'm all about those kinds of simple equations, right? But it makes even more sense in a life and death circumstance like we in right now. This is America. And anything can become a knife fight. If you told Washington that they had to decide whether water was wet or one party with filibuster the other and would say run attack ads and saying my opponent denies humidity. So of course, Medicaid has become a political football, a battlefield. Not a budgeting issue, not even a policy issue. A battlefield. Enter Florida, where we are right now. Florida runs one of the leanest, meanest, cleanest Medicare programs in the country. 46th in per person spending. Per person. 46 out of 50. One of the best per person spendings. They actually check for fraud. Oh yeah, and take note, Elmer. Fraud. Florida. They check for fraud. Florida didn't expand Medicaid to populations the program wasn't originally designed for. Take note. Illegal loving invader Democrats. On paper, it's the kind of program Washington says it wants. Responsible, restrained, focused on the people who deserve it and need it the most. But call it the swamp for a reason, as we do. The reason. It's dirty, it's political, and it gets nasty. So the group called cms, the federal agency that oversees Medicaid, of course, decided to drum roll, please. Target the cheaters. The fraudsters. Target Florida because why reward efficiency when you can punish it so, as if some Minneapolis based Somalians were running it? Florida's Medicaid hospital program, payment program, something that's supposed to be routine, straightforward, somehow gets stuck in federal limbo months late. Please make it make sense. Under review, pending, they say. Maybe if we call it a learning center. Or would that speed things up? And we're not talking just some paperwork issues. We're talking critical funding money that keeps rural hospitals open, maternity ward staffed, emergency rooms functional. And if CMS keeps dragging its feet, Florida could be forced into a choice no state should make. Close hospitals or raise taxes. Property taxes in this instance. That's not policy, folks. That's extortion under the guise of progress. And this is where you'll start to rip your hair out. Blue states, California, New York, and of course Minnesota. All of them with higher spending and colorful histories of Medicaid waste and fraud and abuse. Those places just seem to sail through CMS approvals for some reason. But red states like Florida and Texas saw more audits, more enforcement, more paperwork, more delays. Get it? Coincidence. Clerical backlog. We've been through this way too much. We know the answer here. Because maybe, just maybe, the same federal agency that spent the last administration being accused of weaponizing oversight was in fact weaponizing oversight. And yes, politics has entered the chat. Health care being treated like a pressure point to squeeze when convenient. So a bureaucrat is sitting somewhere up in D.C. in the swamp, thinking, well, this state voted the wrong way, so let's just go ahead and slow walk their funding. Doesn't matter if those rural hospitals have to shut down. Remember the catastrophic train derailment in East Palestine, Ohio? I'm old enough to remember when Joe Biden was just too damn busy eating his chocolate chocolate ice cream to visit. All because East Palestine, why was in Ohio and East Palestine was too red for the Biden administration. That is, until President Trump, who wasn't even president at the time, visited on the one year anniversary. Don't ever tell me that these decisions aren't made because of political bias. And poor families, seniors and children, they get caught in the crossfire. Now it falls to people like Dr. Oz, who's Trump's administrator of the Centers for Medicaid and Medicare Services, to try and untangle this swampy mess. Little common sense here. Instead of treating hospital budgets like campaign talking points, somebody, somebody's got to be the adult in the room. And no, Joe, adult diapers don't count. So strip away politics and what are you left with? Well, let's see. Hospitals that stay open, patients who can get care they need. 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All right, let's bring in our first guest. He's running for Congress, representing Arizona, the fifth Congressional district, because he says we need good patriots in office that will stand up and fight for American values. Happy to have a retired Pinal county sheriff, Mark Lamb with a sheriff. Good to have you on. I mean, a lot of eyes on this. I haven't really covered it a lot because it just feels like a lot of a distraction not to be insensitive to Guthrie family. However, Sheriff Nancy Guthrie case seems to want to continue on and on. Can't catch a break. We just heard that the glove that they found, that was a big third week. Starting third week, there's evidence that now is going to be irrelevant because it doesn't match any DNA they found at this crime scene. Alleged crime scene. Sheriff, what are you. What's your take on it?

[Sheriff Mark Lamb]

Well, look, they got DNA, which is really good. If you get a profile on it now, they'll compare with codis, but now they're not getting any hits on codis. That's not surprising because CODIS is going to contain people who've been adjudicated through the legal process before. Now what you'll do is you'll run it through what a lot of investigators are doing. They run it through like a familial DNA type thing where they tested against people who have submitted DNA samples through Ancestry.com 23andMe and most of these companies are willing to work with law enforcement. Then you compare it against maybe a cousin, maybe an aunt or uncle or somebody who has submitted a DNA profile. If it's close enough, they know they're onto the right, they've got the right track and then they can just further it and maybe narrow it down and find a suspect.

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Sheriff, two questions. One first one like they, they eliminated the family. I guess the local authorities eliminated the family. I'm noticing that the FBI has been kind of pushed to the back burner on this. They eliminated families, but there's nothing wrong with saying you're eliminating families to see if anything turns up as evidence. Right. You can clearly trick them into maybe talking.

[Sheriff Mark Lamb]

Look, I don't feel like anybody is ever really truly eliminated until you actually make some arrests and suspects. And even then you may end up getting accomplices. What I've understood is they passed a polygraph. Typically these cases, the reason why people were looking so hard at the family is 90 plus percent of these cases are with somebody, are committed by or abduction cases or kidnappings or burglaries of homes and situations like this. Those are oftentimes committed by somebody familiar with the property, the family, or even family themselves, which is. That's normal. I know that people may not have liked it or the family was uncomfortable with it, but that's just the way investigations go. The sheriff is now saying they've cleared them. It doesn't mean that it's. It's a closed book on it. It just means that right now they don't have any indication that they were involved.

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Sheriff, I was watching a show about midnight a couple nights ago, and all of a sudden all the networks broke in. They've got a big police presence somewhere about two miles away from the Guthrie home. Cops are showing all the. All the vehicles coming. They are apparently were for people apprehended. And then later on I heard one was dead. Then they said, oh, had nothing to do with Guthrie. Do we know if it had nothing to do with Guthrie? How does one end up dead?

[Sheriff Mark Lamb]

Well, I guess where that information came from was a neighbor. What best that I could find out because, Eric, I was just as confused. And what I could find out, it was the neighbor said, oh, it sounded like a gunshot and that maybe one of the four people had committed suicide. I couldn't find anything to corroborate that later on. So my best understanding is that three people had been detained. They also towed away the car. And when you detain people, a lot of times it's like sending a dog into the bushes to scare up the birds. Just because they let them go does not mean that they necessarily don't have information. You know, they may. They might still be considered persons of interest. You know, we had a case where a guy, somebody went missing. We brought the guy in, we interviewed him, and then we sent him on his way, only to find out later through social media and through phone pings and other information, digital evidence that he was indeed our suspect. And we ended up arresting him and charging him. And now he's sitting in prison for life on a murder charge when that person went missing. Now, let's hope that's not the case with the Guthrie case. But it just goes to show you, just because they get released doesn't necessarily mean they're in the clear yet.

[Eric]

Okay, Sheriff. So to help us work through this, I'm a person who believes that state. Believe in states rights. In other words, I, I don't like a huge federal bureaucracy. However, in this case, you have what appears to be, from the outside, fairly incompetent local sheriff in the Area. Maybe he's not, maybe I'm wrong, but he seems like that from here, sir. And then FBI cash Patel flies out there. FBI wants to get involved and we hear that the local sheriff says, no, we got this. They want to give the FBI the lead. A couple of questions here. How does that work? Where's the power there? And also Trump has said if there's any, if you find Nancy Guthrie dead and there's a fault play, the death penalty will apply. That's a federal. I don't even know if, if they have the death penalty in this state or not. But where does. This brings me back to Luigi Mangione, who's now got the death penalty pulled from his state case, but the federal case still has the death penalty applied to it. Tell us, sir.

[Sheriff Mark Lamb]

Well, part one of that question is, you know, I'm not intimately involved with the agency on this case, but this is a sheriff's case. I would have maintained this case as a sheriff's office as well. I think that they've done right by bringing the FBI in and using the FBI. Look, we work very different than the federal government. We don't have the money or the time or all of that in our side. We have to work fast. We have to work and we, we do things a little bit different. And in this case, the sheriff, I think is using the FBI to, to maybe not the best of their ability, I don't know. They have certainly have capabilities and resources and endless money to be able to cases, but they typically do not work as quickly as we do in sheriff's office world or in a local law enforcement. So I'm good with them keeping the case. I'm good with them maintaining chain of custody on all evidence that they have that they've picked up thus far. Once you start dividing that and shifting it off onto another agency, it really starts to put the chain of custody on whatever age evidence you will eventually use to prosecute somebody in a court of law, you're going to need that evidence. And the least amount of trouble in the chain of custody or the least amount of transfers possible is going to be your best outcome. As far as the death penalty, the federal government, I very rarely see them apply the death penalty. We have it here in Arizona. But a death penalty case has to go to trial. It cannot be pled out. So when you go to trial, you better have all your ducks in a row. And right now, based on what I've seen from this case, the amount of media attention, the amount of, look here, this we got this lead. Now it's not a lead that is going to create a lot of doubt. When you go into a court and try to prove something beyond a reasonable doubt, the evidence is going to be tough to prove. And so I think in the end you're going to have a really tough time proving a death penalty case unless there is some really compelling evidence when they finally do find her or find the suspects involved in this.

[Eric]

You know, some people are saying, again, Luigi Mangione, we don't have the actual suspects in the other case, the Guthrie case, but if we do, and both would may or may not apply. Both cases may or may not apply. But Mangioni's defense is saying, look, I'm going to get tried by the state. I guess it's New Jersey or New York, probably New York. Right. And there's no death penalty. But he's like, I don't want double jeopardy. We have a constitutional right against double jeopardy. Is he right in saying, well then the feds can't bring a death penalty case against him if he's already been tried at the state level?

[Sheriff Mark Lamb]

Well, what they would probably do is find a different type of charge. I would be, it is going to be the double jeopardy. You either get charged one way or the other. You can't have the state say, well, you're good to go. But we see this, you know, we see where a state will clear a law enforcement guy in a shooting only to have maybe the feds then try to prosecute him for that. And so I just don't feel like that you're going to get that in this case. I think that this will run through the state and I think ultimately the state, when they do find somebody, the suspects involved in this case, that this case will be handled at the state level with the federal government's assistance.

[Eric]

Now, one more question, Sheriff. Former sheriff of Pinal County. Mark, the attention this case is getting, I mean It's. She's an 80 something year old woman. How many children go missing? How many, you know, younger people go missing? How many people go missing that don't ever get nearly as much of exposure? Do they get the same amount of police efforts, so to speak?

[Sheriff Mark Lamb]

Well, I'm glad you brought that up, Eric, because I've been one of the few that's actually been saying this. Look, I want to see all the attention. Let's find her. But at the Same time, there's 2, 3, 400 calls for service at the sheriff's office as we speak every day that those victims Want to have the same type of service that this family is getting. And especially when it comes to the tens of thousands of children that go missing every year in this country. We. I would only hope that our media would cover those. We should probably cover those more. Not to take away from this case, but those would record. Those would deserve our attention even more than a case like this. Yet we don't see that. There are a lot of families out there right now, victims families, who are saying, why didn't we get this kind of service? Or why didn't we get this kind of attention? And while I, I'm, I'm all for it, let's find her. But at the same time, we also have other victims out there that we have to make sure that their cases are being handled and they're getting the attention they deserve as well.

[Eric]

Yeah, indeed, Sheriff, indeed. I, you know, it's, it's, it's insane. It's crazy. We can't, we can't find some sort. You've got very quickly, in half a minute or so. You've been in this position, you've seen these types of cases. Again, not holding you to it, folks. Don't hold them to it. What's your gut? Based on your experience? What. What's your gut? What happened?

[Sheriff Mark Lamb]

Well, initially, it looked like maybe this was a kidnapping. I know that the sheriff has said otherwise, but when I saw the video, I didn't see a professional operation. I feel like this is more of a crime gone wrong. I don't know, maybe they intended on abducting her in the beginning. I know people don't want to hear this, and I know the family certainly doesn't want to hear this. I do not have high hopes that they will find her alive, although I pray that she is. If you're asking just an honest assessment, these cases don't go well day after day with as much time as we've seen in between it, with the age of the victim that has been, that's. That's missing, these things combined don't give me a lot of hope that they will find her alive. But I pray that they do.

[Eric]

Sheriff Mark Lamb. Thank you. Running for Congress, by the way, folks, Arizona's 5th congressional district. Thank you, Sheriff.

[Congressman Randy Fine]

Thank you.

[Eric]

All right, folks, we'll be back. Two and a half minutes.

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Well here we go again. A mass shooting in Pawtucket, Rhode island at a kid's hockey game. Someone shoots up a senior night game or whatever it is and guess who the shooter may be? You may ask. Right. Well this is Robert. Take a look at Robert. But he goes by Roberta because of course he does. Robert Durgan, a man who dresses like a woman, is the latest in string of transgender violence. The left has propped up this madness for years and now it looks like the left have finally successfully built their army of mentally ill killers. Can you confirm whether the suffix of male female is a transgender person? Is that something that he has in terms of information?

[Cancer Survivor/Patient]

So what I can say right now that we have identified the person the suspect by a birth name. The birth name was Robert Dorgan. We have also learned that the Person does go by the name of Roberta. Also uses a last name of Esposito. But again, that will be.

[Eric]

Yeah, two dead, including the shooter. I think it was third, if not mistaken, killed himself and his wife. He also injured three more who are in critical condition. Meanwhile, squadster Pramila Jayapal is out there doing everything she can to protect trans.

[Cancer Survivor/Patient]

Rights to trans people everywhere. I also want you to know this. Those people are threatened by your strength, by your joy in being fully who you are. Those who fight against trans people are just jealous of the freedom that they have taken to be fully who they are. And so those people just want to destroy that rather than imagine what it would be like to be fully who they are. Wise words from our young people. So today, the Trans Bill of Rights makes those freedoms we all deserve as clear as the paper they are written on. And we intend to continue this fight until we win the this fight.

[Eric]

Sure, I agree. You're free to be whoever the hell you want. Dress however the hell you want. Don't disagree with that. Sleep with whoever the hell you want. But when you start killing people, your freedoms end right there. And by the way, I'm a math guy, right? So if Transgender represents about 1% of the population, let's do the math on what rate they're killing people. Mass murdering, mass shooting people at blows away any other group, any other group in the world, including whites or minorities. Believe me, do that. Stick that in your pipe, Jamila. Pry at pal, or where the hell your name is and smoke it. The delusions of grandeur continue to run Jasmine Crockett's campaign for Senate for Texas with Jazzy Jazz somehow truly believing that her becoming a Texas senator will not only be great for the state of Texas and also would be racist if she doesn't win it. But let's take a listen to this.

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[Eric]

All. No, the country's coming back. We're making America gradient. Jazzy jazz. I mean, good luck with that. Texas. Don't knock yourself out just because there were so many moments Where AOC embarrassed herself in Munich. We showed you most of them. Yes, some of them yesterday. Here's another precious communist moment from the proud little Marxist from New York.

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[Eric]

Yeah, let's do it now. Right, well, tax. Yeah, why not do it now before I run for president? By the way, you would think the nonsense that she spewed in Germany the last couple of days would be disqualifying for her as a presidential candidate. Unfortunately, with Democrats, it actually elevated her status. Speaking of embarrassing Democrats, Hillary Clinton Hill Shady. Fresh off being shamed in Munich for her obsession with President Trump with impunity.

[Cancer Survivor/Patient]

The way that Putin does. Except that's who Trump is modeling himself.

[Eric]

Well, first, I think you really don't like him.

[Cancer Survivor/Patient]

You know, that is absolutely true.

[Eric]

Well, that's absolutely true. I like him at all. Gee, I wonder how you didn't win presidency. Hill Shady. By the way, you were up. Never forget this election night 2016. New York Times has this little meter on who's winning based on election returns. New York Times had Hillary with an 86% chance of winning the election at around, I don't know, five or six o' clock in the evening and is slowly, slowly, slowly. That was amazing. Well, now Hillary is doing cleanup on aisle nine over the Epstein file. Do you regret the links that there have been?

[Cancer Survivor/Patient]

You know, we have no links. We have a very clear record that we've been willing to talk about, which my husband has said he took some rides on the airplane for his charitable work. I don't recall ever meeting him. Did you ever meet Ghislaine Maxwell? I did on a few occasions. And thousands of people go to the Clinton Global Initiative. So it to me is not, is not something that is really at the heart of what this matter is about.

[Eric]

Just few plane rides. A. Is that what you're trying to say? And no. Oh, what's that? Oh, look at that there. Oh, by the way, Hill. Shady. What about the video of Bill Clinton, your husband, in a hot tub with Ghislaine Maxwell and two very young girls? What about that one? Just a ride in the plane, right, Hill? And finally, a little flashback in honor of Jesse Jackson who died today at the age of 84. A reminder that before Donald Trump ran for president as a Republican. The views of him were quite different back in the day as of reaching out and being inclusive. He's done that too and created for many people a comfort zone. When I ran for the presidency in 84, 88, and many others thought it was either laughable or something to avoid. He came to our business meeting here in New York because he has this sense of the curious and a will to risk to make things better. And so aside from all of his style and his kazan, he's a serious person.

[Congressman Randy Fine]

I will tell you, a large percentage of the people, and especially in construction that are building these great jobs are black and minorities.

[Eric]

And I'm very proud of it. If you haven't seen it yet, Trump, it's true thing, it's just amazing. Trump's got pictures with Jesse Jackson and Trump talks about how the Reverend Jesse Jackson liked Trump more than he liked Obama. It's awesome. Gotta check out that truth post. Oh, all of them. There's a bunch of them. All right, folks, once more, take a look at these numbers. My good friends, the Edge. Just five months live, five months and we're drawing what YouTube calls elite level audience numbers. Our last two shows have drawn a bigger audience than Newsmax and News Nation prime time cable news shows. Think about that. That little show over there on YouTube outdrawing Newsmax. Why won't we talk about making you better, more successful, healthier? We equip you with the ideas, knowledge and the tools to better your circumstances, your life. Because guess what? No one else is going to do it for you. Some of the world's most successful and important voices are guests on the Edge. Right there. Favre Bet, David Cardone, Ortiz, Jillian Michaels. Just a few of the folks who've been, I don't know, slammed down in their life and somehow found a way to get themselves back up off the canvas and throw thrive again. How about you take just a minute and do something to make your life better for you, for your family, even just to prove you still have the fire. Because the first step, back into the fire, the most important but also the hardest and the most powerful. Take that first step right now. Motivate yourself to elevate your life. Subscribe to the Edge. Use your camera. Point it right at that QR code. You can go there or go on YouTube. Eric Bowling in the Edge. Search it out. Eric Bowling the Edge. Or on Google. Eric Bowling the Edge. Go there, get there. Watch it, share it, subscribe. Thank you for being a rev audience member. Thank you for watching bowling at 4 o' clock Eastern. Thank you for joining me. On the Edge. We'll be back. Two and a half minutes.

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All right folks, a little context here. This morning I woke up, I saw a story about a representative, a GOP representative from my great state of Florida here who's getting a lot of heat and they framed it as from both sides of the aisle for comment or a post he put on on social media. Our next it turns out he was on the show today. Anyway, this is amazing. Amazing serendipity going on here. Our next guest Congressman from Florida Ruffles a few feathers in dc. His expo stated, quote, if they force us to choose, the choice between dogs and Muslims is not a difficult one. Just like that. Just that. So of course the left picks it up and goes crazy and there's no context. So it was in response, by the way, to a Palestinian American activist, Nurdine Kiswani's post, who wrote. She wrote, quote, finally, New York City is coming to Islam. Dogs definitely have a place in society, just not as indoor pets like we've said all along. They're unclean. Well, let's have that guy on here. Happy to have Congressman Randy Fine back on the show. Sir, you're responding to a Muslim leader about her desire to get rid of all dogs in the home in America. Your thoughts? Well, tell us how this went down.

[Congressman Randy Fine]

Well, I saw the comment. She's not just a Muslim leader. She's one of the key advisors and backers of the new mayor of New York, Mamdani. And when we see Sharia coming to New York in the way that it has, this is them saying the quiet part out loud. So I made a simple statement. Look, you have the right to come to America and practice your religion however you want in private, but you don't have the right to impose your values on me. And so I made a simple statement. If I have to choose between having my dog and you living here and taking my dog away, the choice isn't hard. You can leave and go home. And the fact of the matter is, the world went crazy. And what's fascinating is all the Democrats that have attacked me, not a single one has said, you have the right to own a dog. They are all coming down on, you can lead your dog to slaughter if that's what we have to do to make Muslim immigrants happy in the United States.

[Eric]

What was her point? I mean, dogs are on. I mean, I'm not sure what her point was.

[Congressman Randy Fine]

Sure. And that's.

[Eric]

I think one of. Wait, hold on. Just allow me. Dogs are in our military, they're in our police force. They take on some of the most dangerous situations that human beings don't want to take on. And not only that, there are friends, there are our partners there. Some of them are emotional stability. And this woman says, because it's. Here's my point, People coming to this country need to assimilate to the way we do things here, not what they bring from their own private countries. Assimilate to Americanism or get out that. I'm sorry, is that too harsh?

[Congressman Randy Fine]

No. But one of the valuable Things is we're learning more about mainstream Islam. Now, I'm not judging their faith. If this is how they want to live where they're from, that's fine. But in mainstream Islam, they say dogs are not haram. They do not like dogs. Look, there's certain animals Americans don't like. For what? I don't agree with them not liking dogs, but they don't like dogs. They don't think they should be pets. Her view is not an isolated one. That is a mainstream view. You go to Muslim countries, you're not going to see dogs as pets. Okay, but if you come to America, you don't get to tell us how we live our lives. The deal with immigration has always been you assimilate, you integrate. I'm Jewish. Many of my fellow Jews don't eat pork. But we don't demand that American grocery stores stop selling it as a result. And that's the difference here. And we have to stand up, because if we don't, we will lose our country. Dogs are not the only thing they want to take away from us.

[Eric]

Okay, let's play a little politics here. Ro Khanna AOC They've already called for you being censored. Rokhana says you're. You're some sort of bigot or. Or hate religious bigot or hater. Do they really want to run on let's get rid of dogs in America?

[Congressman Randy Fine]

Well, apparently they do, and there will be more to come on this, but look, I think this is a 9010 issue. I think 90% of Americans support our right to own a dog. Not a single one of them in their criticism said, you have the right to own a dog. If they want to take the view that not only do we have to let in anyone who wants to come to America, but we have to change the way we live to make them happy. Let them make that argument in November. All I know is I'm fighting for the dogs, and they can fight to get rid of our dogs, and I don't think that's going to be a winner.

[Eric]

Oh, they're going to have a heart. They uphill battle. Going to touch my dog Ain't gonna do that. No. Mum. Donnie in New York. Right? We know that this is New York. This is a supporter of. Of Mom. Dani. I just. The reason why I bring this up is because we ran a sound bite yesterday. We're gonna play a little bit later, too. We have another segment on this after this segment of New York playing the call to prayer out loud in the streets. Of New York, and it's just jarring. I spent 30 years living in New York, and the thought I would hear that several times a day is outrageous. I never thought that would happen, let alone within, what, two months since Mondami was sworn in. Yeah.

[Congressman Randy Fine]

And make no mistake, what this is, this is not a peaceful call. This is a call for submission. That is what is the core tenet of the faith, that you will submit. Now, if they want to submit, that's fine, but the rest of us don't have to. And the call to prayer is a call for submission, and I'm not okay with that. They need to cut it out. They do whatever they want in their mosques, and if they need to set an alarm at 5am on their iPhones so they can get up and go to the mosques, they can do that. But this is the United States of America. There are 57 countries in the world that are Sharia compliant. This ain't going to be number 58.

[Eric]

Yeah, Sharia. We're an infidel if we don't believe that Allah is the, you know, supreme being. I hate to use this term because I get lit up everything. The Sharia creep. You know, we've been talking about this for decades, and it is happening at an elevated pace recently. Am I wrong?

[Congressman Randy Fine]

No, you're not at all. And this is a real risk. Again, this activist, this important Muslim leader in New York, felt comfortable saying, islam is coming to New York. Finally, dogs are unclean and they have to be banned as pets. They're telling us what they want. The funny thing about a lot of this is they don't lie. You can see Facebook videos that they record themselves in their mosques talking about what they believe. But there's this phrase that ignorance is bliss. I can just pretend everything is fine and. And it will go away. Everything is not fine. That's why we've got 40 members that have created a Sharia Free America Caucus. We've got to be clear that we don't want this in America. And if anyone thinks you and I are being, you know, it's. Are being overly concerned about this, look at what's happened in Europe. Look at what's happened in the uk where they're literally debating in Parliament whether child, whether cousin marriage should be allowed in order to make their Muslim immigrants more comfortable. This is crazy. We don't want this here.

[Eric]

Well, sometimes, you know, you make a comment, it's interpreted, misinterpreted, and delivered without context, the return fire. And sometimes it elevates your stature good to have. Congressman Randy Fine from the fine state of Florida. Sir, thank you for your time. We'll talk a little bit about your situation this in the next block when we come right back. Thank you, sir.

[Congressman Randy Fine]

Honored to be here. Thanks for having me.

[Eric]

All right, folks, we'll be right back.

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What? We're back folks. We're back. We're back live. All right. It's the latest post heard round the world standing on its own. Maybe not ideal, let's just say it needs a little Context, so shall we. The context being a Palestinian so called activist and key advisor to New York City Mayor Zoran Mamdani, who thinks that attacking our culture is an effective way to support the cause, whatever she believes that cause to be. If it's innocent Palestinians, okay, get it. However, judging by the tone of the original post, I think there's more of a Hamas supporting, by the way, by all means necessary, by the way, alignment of morality there. And that comes across clearly in the dogs shouldn't have a home rhetoric. So what exactly is the point? Dogs are too dirty for the home. Okay, then you don't have one in your home. You don't want your dog house to have a dog. You don't want to own a dog, so don't own a damn dog. See how it works here in America where freedom, democracy and a constitutional right to make your own choices lives. Because guess what? In America you're allowed to make that choice and also a whole lot of other choices that you can't make when you live in the places that are wholly governed by groups of people. The good Congressman was referencing in that post. And speaking of reference, shall we going back to that post by Congressman Randy Fine, who's going to be with us in a second. The attacks on him because of that post are plentiful. I get it. It was raw. It was honest though. And it's his own take and his own take on certain meanings. But it's not on his own, is it after all, because context. Something the left absolutely hates, particularly when it gets in the way of their venomous uprising about some agenda that riles them up on a Tuesday. The context is this, that people are coming into America with 0 interest, 0.0 interest in helping to retain our culture. This isn't about being racist against Muslims. This is about a group of people who come to America and other Western countries and have no interest whatsoever in assimilation. This is about people coming to America and trying to fundamentally alter the fabric of our country. Dogs are so important to America, to our culture. They accompany police officers and soldiers. They sense danger before anyone else can. Their hunting companions, emotional companions. They save lives. There are dogs who detect seizures, heart attacks, blood sugar level drops and spikes in their diabetic owners, all well before they actually happen. They make children and adults happy, they help people out of depression, and they're loyal and loving. So what? First step, remove dogs from homes. Second, calls to prayer at all hours the day in their cities. Oh wait, Get. Sounds like that's already happening in the great New York Formerly great. So what's the next step? Sharia law also Spare us your snowflaking, aoc. She cries from her Marxist ivory tower perch. Let's consider the source, shall we? Aoc, didn't you just condone global communism, an ideology that's killed more than 100 million people in the world for decades on the same soil that has seen millions die from it? Oh, and hey aoc, didn't you also claim Israel was committing a genocide? Pure terrorist propaganda. On German soil? A place where an actual genocide of Jews took place a mere 80 years ago? I don't know, maybe sit this one out, aoc. Hell, maybe sit them all out. Young Americans were slaughtered by illegals for years under Joe Biden. People like AOC showed zero outrage. And now as people continue to be stifled, crippled, slaughtered under the Islamic extremist regimes, AOC and her Marxist comrades sit in silence too. All they have to offer is the occasional comparison of a Republican to a fascist. These people have hidden behind the curtain of so called Islamophobia. Is it, is it not a real thing? As people with extreme ideologies look to take over the west and claim it as theirs from the so called infidels us. Which means anyone not like them, anyone who doesn't believe what they believe isn't that bigoted in itself. This isn't a small few. This is a huge mess and it's a problem and it's growing. And saying so is somehow worse than the actual terrorism we've had to deal with, both on our own soil and abroad. It's bad enough what they do to people in their own countries. The daily human rights violations, the stoning, the stifling of women, the killings. It's bad enough they do it there, but they want to bring that here? Well, disrespectfully and impolitely, no thank you. So if this is the ultimate question, man's best friend or one of man's worst enemies, the choice is pretty clear, isn't it? I'm just asking the questions. Also, don't mess with our dogs. Let's bring Randy Fine back in. The Congressman who created a bit of a firestorm. Certainly lit a fire under my ass, so to speak. Congressman, thank you for joining us for a last couple minutes of the show. What do you think? Did I capture it a little bit? Your thoughts?

[Congressman Randy Fine]

You did. But I'd give you a couple of other thoughts. Number one, that post I made was part of a thread. The context was in the next post. In the thread, Democrats just didn't Want to show the context. They wanted to take it out of context. The second reason is I posted that way intentionally because I wanted to create awareness to the issue. I used to be a marketer, and this is marketing. I wanted people to be aware. Because the third question, why did the original post that I was responding to not create an uproar? Why can Muslim immigrant activists that come to our country then demand that we change how we live? I shouldn't have to have been the one to respond, because Americans should have already been mad about it, but they weren't. And I made sure that now everybody knows what they intend to do.

[Eric]

You know, Congressman, you think it's a coincidence that we've. We're starting to hear the call to prayer in New York City? This woman says this. There's a free grocery store. And by the way, they need to raise $12 billion in New York for the budget shortfall. Any coincidences that this is directly tied to Mamdani, who is directly tied to Islam?

[Congressman Randy Fine]

No. I mean, look, he's an idiot on two levels. He's a Muslim terrorist and he's a communist. And by the way, for anyone who questions that the budget of the entire state of Florida is smaller than the budget of New York City and we have a lot more people. I mean, New York is a mess and it's getting a lot worse. So get ready. If you live in New York, I feel really bad for you.

[Eric]

Well, I think we can call them Muslim financial terrorists, but this just to keep the folks, at least at base, so much. You know, it strikes me that there's anywhere between nine and, as Trump would say, $19 billion missing from a Somalian group that stole money from Minneapolis and frankly, the US Taxpayer as well, because money's fungible. The federal government gives them money and they lose that money over there. It's the same. It's our money as well. Your thoughts on how they tend to ignore something so egregious there, but really have a problem with you talking about whether it should be dogs or Muslims?

[Congressman Randy Fine]

Well, because. Because the fraud is the goal. I think what we know in Minneapolis is everybody knew what was going on and they were okay with it. And by the way, that 9 to 19 billion dollars in Minneapolis is just going to be scraping the bottom of the barrel. When they get to fraud in New York and California and other blue states, it's going to be tens of billions of dollars. By the way, I have a bill that would ban all immigrants from getting welfare, legal and illegal. Because if people want to come to America for freedom and opportunity. We can have that discussion. But if they're coming for free stuff, they should stay at home. And if we reduced eligibility, that would save us money and it would eliminate a lot of this fraud.

[Eric]

I'll tell you what, it's so common sense, it probably wouldn't make it through the House even with a Republican House for whatever reason. We got leftists, we have liberals, we have Muslims, and we got some rhinos who are just mucking up the whole system. Congressman Randy Fine from the great state of Florida want to say thank you very much for your time, and thank you for elevating an issue that would seem trivial to a point. We're really making the point about you want to come over this country, assimilate, or get the hell out. I agree with you. We agree with you, sir. Have a great day, and thank you for. For staying on it.

[Congressman Randy Fine]

Thanks, Eric. Appreciate it.

[Eric]

All right, folks, I don't know, got riled up. Don't mess with our dogs, all right? Don't mess with our dogs.

[Congressman Randy Fine]

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[Eric]

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