Eric Bolling (4:12)

Well, you and I have been doing this a long time. And the real issue right now, you're talking end of January. Yeah. You got nine months until the election. Midterm elections and these issues are important to, to people get it. But the real bread and butter issues in, during elections, midterms and presidential elections, the economy, affordability. What. How is my standard of living? Is it going up? Will it go up? And that's really what people vote for. So I believe, Reena, that the Democrats are playing the shutdown game because this keeps the, this story in the news. It could easily have gone away. It could have gotten quiet. They don't want it to get quiet. They never want it to be quiet. Because the more quiet you get about everything else, you can't talk about how much better the economy is doing now than it was under the last four years of Joe Biden.

Rena Shah (4:59)

Well, look, yeah, I mean, I think the Democrats, if they really want to get at anything, they can talk about this impasse stemming from really deep partisan divides. And that's something that I think most Americans get now, is that we have such hyper polarization here. And then we've also got really strong stances on immigration with these fatal shootings involving ice. I mean, let's not forget these were US Citizens, not some illegal people that were killed here. I think the spotlight has been on all enforcement operations.

Chris McCall (5:31)

Right.

Rena Shah (5:31)

And the Democrats have been fueling these demands for stricter oversight, but they realize that's not really doing anything to the American public right now. So they're also trying to figure themselves out. Republicans are also saying, we're not going to sit here and take this slightly. We're going to push back. You've got people like Lindsey Graham who has insisted on, on cracking down on sanctuary cities. Now, look, I don't really know if that's going to lead to this issue in Congress being sorted out, because what it is, is funding needs to be extended through a continuing resolution that has stalled in the Senate as of right now.

Eric Bolling (6:12)

The reason why. Listen to these demands. Democrats demanding immigration agents stop wearing masks, wear body cameras. Fine. Carry identification. Roving patrols must stop and they must have warrants. Must have warrants.

Rena Shah (6:28)

Big demands.

Eric Bolling (6:29)

Yeah, I mean, these are. We're not protecting American citizens. We're, we're, we're lifting illegals off the streets and sending them back home is really the reason. And when politicians, you and I may disagree on this, I believe that the reason there are two dead citizens in Minneapolis, whether they were protesters, paid protesters, not whatever. And the, an ICE agent with his finger bitten off, a couple of them bleeding, concussions, cracked skulls. Because of Tim Walls, Jacob Fry, not necessarily Keith Ellison. I think he's guilty of the, the fraud that, that hasn't been really investigated yet. But Tim Walls and, and Fry really amped up that protest right there. Those People right there, they got him going. They said, this is Gestapo. This. He's Hitler. Get. Get the F out. Ice day one, people started to die. If that. People got jazzed up. They got to the streets, they got violent. And of course, you get violent with law enforcement, you put yourself at risk. I put it on them. Rena, you may disagree, but tell me.

Rena Shah (7:28)

I disagree on that. But you know what? Here's the thing. I think what the Vermont governor or Republican said is that we needed to pause and we needed to figure how exactly we can stop this kind of. This enforcement, you know, becoming an issue where American citizens were dead. We need to get to the. Again, root of the problem. And I'm encouraged by Tom Homan being sent up there, of course, as far as I know.

Eric Bolling (7:53)

Right. Hate to cut you off again. It's rude. People get mad at me when I do this. Like, I hate cutting out. But you said we need to get to the root of the problem. You want to get to the real root of the problem. The open. The open borders for four years that allowed these people to come into the country and we wouldn't have to be removing them in the cities and states that didn't want to do it.

Rena Shah (8:11)

Well, this is where elections have consequences. And the policies on the book there. On the books there don't allow federal agents to do safe handoffs from jail. So that's a tension between state and federal, but that's again, a. Policies that are due to the Democrats and leadership in that state. And. And we can go, you know, down the rabbit hole of nitpicking every wrong thing they've done. I think we're seeing Tim Walson's career come to a horrific end. I mean, he's basically had this implosion. You're likely going to see a governor, Amy Klobuchar. I mean, on the one hand, I think, is she really running for the people or is she leaving a Senate that doesn't get anything done? But truth be told, yeah, this is. You know, Tim Walls, as the governor of Minnesota, has egg on his face. I think the clash between federal and state is really unfortunate. But at the end of the day, this all being tied to another chapter of dysfunctional appropriations process I think is just the wrong way for both of these, the cham to kind of try to serve the American people. I mean, I think the Senate negotiations have crumbled under ideological pressure. I think a lot of other things have been left in limbo for a while. Let's not forget the fiscal year began in October of last year. So there's a lot of tension here. And this is just the sad part is, Eric, is this is just kind of what we have to deal with this era. And again, a partial shutdown is going to have implications too. It's going to furlough hundreds of thousands of federal workers, going to close national parks, it's going to delay tax refunds and it's going to disrupt businesses like food inspections and air traffic.

Eric Bolling (9:49)

Shut them down. We learned last time the shutdown didn't really matter. Didn't change things. Markets didn't crash, people didn't die, everything was fine. People got paid later. Shut the damn thing down. Don't compromise with these. I almost said a bad word. Congresswoman Pramila Jayapal wants to do away completely with ICE and DHS and customs.

Eric Bolling (10:09)

Unrealistic.

Eric Bolling (10:10)

Listen, listen. Yeah.

Eric Bolling (10:14)

As soon as we get the gavels back, we have to dismantle DHS and.

Rena Shah (10:19)

ICE and CBP and we have to reconstruct them to what they really should be doing. Remember, don't let people tell you that these are agencies that have always existed.

Eric Bolling (10:33)

And they need to exist.

Eric Bolling (10:34)

They didn't exist before 9, 11.

Eric Bolling (10:37)

You know what else didn't exist? Democrats. Democrats. Letting millions upon millions of legals cross our border almost unfettered. This whole idea of shut down ICE and DHS and let the Democrats decide what it's going to look like. When Mayorkas, the last DHS secretary said the border was fine and 4 or 5 million people came across illegally. No, no. They would open the floodgates, let him come in and then offer him stuff for votes. We am I wrong? Tell me, tell me if I'm wrong.

Rena Shah (11:08)

You know, Eric, I think there was a huge problem under Joe Biden. I mean it was like come one, come all. And, and a country that doesn't enforce its borders is no country at all. Right. And we've heard that very statement put in many ways. And Trump believes that too. Right. I mean, I've also met reasonable you normal Democrats that believe this is my problem with shutting down things and saying you want to just shutter agencies because you don'. Like what they're doing. I think things can be reformed. But my, my problem is how much the federal government actually spends. And economically, the last shutdown cost us billions. And even a short one could erode public trust in government, which we know is at an all time low. And in the broader political arena too, it also erodes trust. I mean, you look at the polls from the 2025 shutdown that showed blame shifting to Republicans. But with Trump back in office, it could test his dealmaker image. I mean, if prolonged, if the government shutdown is prolonged, then it also alienating swing voters in battleground states. That's not got it down again.

Eric Bolling (12:12)

This whole idea of, oh, we're going to blame you if it gets shut down and people's checks won't get out of here. Do what's right. And by the way, don't negotiate with terrorists. If they called the people who are violently attacking ICE agents terrorists, domestic terrorists, don't negotiate with them either. I disagree with, with the Trump administration on what they're doing there. So yes, I do disagree with them there. Don't leave, finish the job and let the Democrats shut the government down and then point the finger at them. Rena. Well, we are going to go, we were going to do Iran. We ran out of time. We'll do Iran another time. You know, God forbid if there's bombs flying over the weekend. We'll bring you back very early next week and talk about what's going on in the Middle East.

Rena Shah (12:51)

Thanks, Eric.

Eric Bolling (12:52)

Thank you.

Rena Shah (12:52)

Great to see you.

Eric Bolling (12:53)

Rena Shah, everyone. Thank you. All right, folks, quick quiz here. No politics. No, no. Just a little truth under pressure. True or false? Most of those longevity labs you're looking right there are selling you hope not results. True or false? The food pyramid that you grew up with is completely backwards and wrong. True or false. Doing more workouts might actually age you if you hesitated on any one of those questions. That's exactly why today's episode just dropped, actually yesterday. Just drop. Because answering those questions, that's what we did. This channel just crossed 509,000 organic views, 10,000 subscribers and more and 20,000 watch hours without chasing trends, outrage or algorithms. Did it all on our own. People like you joining signing, by the way, hit your QR code with their camera or go to YouTube and type in Eric Bowling the edge in the in the search box. Hit it now. Yesterday I looked this up. Yesterday I asked you to go watch the episode that just dropped, the one we were showing you a little bit and you guys came out in force. You watched it a lot and that's great. But only half of you, 55% of you who watched it aren't subscribers yet. 45 were. 55 weren't. Go check out the episode and please subscribe. I thank you. Thank you for watching Rav here watching Eric Bolling on Rev. And I thank you. If you just go over there, watch an episode or two and subscribe, we'll be back. Two and a half minutes.

Chris McCall (14:25)

Foreign.

Eric Bolling (14:34)

Folks. Our next guest is a world recognized expert on guns and crime. He's the founder and president of Crime Prevention Research center. Happy to have Dr. John Lott with us. John, long time working with you for many, many years. I really want to focus in on this, on this gun that the, this guy Alex Preddy was carrying. The Sig that he was carrying in Minneapolis, Minnesota when he was shot by ICE agents. Specifically we were showing a picture of. John, can you take us through what this is? I own firearms, own handguns and I'm not really sure what's on the top of that one. What am I looking at?

Dr. John Lott (15:11)

Well, the top is actually just another magazine that's there. It's just kind of rested. It's not really attached to the gun there at that point. And then behind that is a site. So this is a SIG P32. It's a 3, 300, 320. It's actually a very expensive gun. I mean this is like over a thousand dollar gun that he has there. So.

Eric Bolling (15:35)

So tell us the, the site on it. You know, I'm seeing the magazine that the gun is just resting next to. But the mag, the site behind it, it, it's small. How does it is a laser sight?

Dr. John Lott (15:48)

I don't know. I'd have to look at it more. I'd have to have the gun probably to make sure I knew whether it was a laser sight or not. I suspect it's not but given how expensive the gun is, I guess I wouldn't be surprised that he would spring for the additional cost there.

Eric Bolling (16:03)

Now you. No, no doubt. And let's have the control room roll some of the video of the the moment that he was shot leading up to it and during it. Now tell us. We were told at one point he was brandishing. We're not sure if he's brandishing. We're not sure what people are defining as brandishing. I've also heard he had it in his back then. I've also heard he had it on his wrist. What do you know?

Dr. John Lott (16:28)

Well, I mean I've heard a lot of conflicting stories. I've tried to look at the videos myself. You know, as best as I can tell, it looked like he was holding it at one point there. But look, the bottom line is this. You shouldn't interfere with officers. If the officers are going to arrest you, even if you think that it's wrong that they're doing, you challenge it in court later. You don't fight with the Officers. I mean, there's, like, no question that he's fighting with the officers at this point. He's resisting arrest. Look, this guy is. Is committing multiple crimes.

Chris McCall (17:05)

He.

Dr. John Lott (17:06)

First of all, in Minnesota, even though I think the law is wrong there, it's illegal for you to carry a permanently concealed handgun into a place where there's a demonstration occurring or protest.

Eric Bolling (17:21)

Is that true? John? Is that true? Because there are a lot of. I think the NRA is upset with. With the FBI and Justice saying that. Exactly what you just said there, that he's not allowed to carry or shouldn't be carrying. You know, and again, listen, my dad. My daddy, when I was this big, when I was five years old, said if you get pulled over by a copy, you just do what he tells you to do. You don't fight it. You don't. You don't argue. I think he's wrong for what he did. However, there are gun rights advocates, and you're one of the biggest I know, say that. Well, he had a legal right to be carrying that gun. Doesn't matter if it's a protest or not. I'll go back to a couple. Couple other occasions where people on the right. Kyle Rittenhouse, and then the Mark. I can't remember his last name. Mark. The. The guy from St. Louis, protecting his own property on his front. Now, granted, not his own property here. However, Kyle Rittenhouse walked into a protest with. With a long gun. What's the difference?

Dr. John Lott (18:16)

Well. Well, Carl. Okay, well. Okay. There are multiple issues here. One is the Kyle Rittenhouse is very different case there. He had gotten. He had talked to the owner of some property who wanted help protecting that property from the demonstrations. And so Kyle was not carrying the gun as, you know, participating in the protest. He was carrying the gun to protect property from being destroyed.

Eric Bolling (18:44)

Look, don't get me wrong. I don't want people to get freaked out. I agree with that. I agree. As long as it's a legal carry, by all means, carry it. I don't care if it's protest, protecting property, or whatever, by all means, carry. My point is, this seems like it was a legal carry, and I just. Not that it was, and I don't know the details. Did he pull it out? I see the cop, one of the ICE officers walking away, the arming the guy. He had the gun before he was shot. Okay, whatever. But if it's a legal carry, I don't like people in power. I know it's our side right now, but I want people in power to Say, oh, he shouldn't have brought that gun to a protest when there are gun rights. Yeah, look at. So I'm a, I'm a huge 2A protector. I think he had a right to.

Dr. John Lott (19:30)

Right, so. So there are two issues here. One is what I think the law should be nationally and what I think the Supreme Court will eventually decide and what the law currently is in Minnesota. In the vast majority of states, you're able to go and carry a permanent concealed handgun at a protest. There are a few states and there are cases working through the courts right now where states pick different gun free zones. We just had a Supreme Court case dealing with gun free zones with regard to Hawaii that they just heard oral arguments a week ago on. And my guess is the Supreme Court's going to restrict Hawaii and California and New York, some gun free zones that they have. But eventually one of these cases dealing with carrying a gun at a protest, which is just an, you know, some of these more restrictive states have kind of limited where you're able to go and carry a gun. My guess is eventually you'll get to the Supreme Court and, and the Supreme Court will strike down those laws. But you know, the law is still in place right now in Minnesota, whether you or I think that it will be found unconstitutional or not. It stole the law there. But there are other laws.

Eric Bolling (20:47)

So question. Here we go. This is, this is one of the, the classic examples if it's constitutional to carry the gun into that protest. But at the state level it's not. Where does the power lie? Where does the right or wrong.

Dr. John Lott (21:03)

Well, you're going to get arrested for right now and you know, you can go to court and you can go and fight and hopefully you'll eventually win the case. But you know, you, I'm still saying, you know, given current law, no matter even if it's going to be eventually found unconstitutional, it's still against the law to do it in Minnesota.

Eric Bolling (21:24)

Let's do this, John. Let's talk to the folks. And we know you and I both know this. I carry a pocket constitution everywhere I go. It's in my backpack right over there. Second Amendment, when it was written founding fathers, it wasn't intended to protect your own property. It was. You had the right to bear arms against the tyrannical government. Right. And I don't know anymore. And again folks, this could be on either side. It could be Republican, Democrat, ice liberal losers who want to dearm people who are rightfully gun owners and allowed to do so. So you don't want A government to tell you you can't carry when the Constitution tells you can. Right. The letter of the Founding Fathers, the letter of that law was not against protecting thieves from stealing your stuff, but more protecting against a tyrannical government. Am I right?

Dr. John Lott (22:14)

Right. Well, I mean, they had just gone through the opening shots in the American Revolution, Lexington, Concord, where the British troops had tried to disarm the American colonists that were there. You know, so that was fresh in their mind when they did that. But, you know, the Second Amendment was very broad, not just to protect you from the government, but to allow people to protect themselves from all sorts of different harms that could come their way. And so, you know, I mean, clearly you're right about that. And my own guess is that if you go back, you know, The Bruin decision 2022 said that the courts had to go and look to see what laws were in effect in either 1791, when the Second Amendment was adopted, or in 1868 when the Fourteenth Amendment applied the Bill of Rights to the states. And I think if you look at either of those two time periods, what you're saying is very clear that there were no laws in effect that banned people from being able to go and have a weapon for protection at a protest there. So, I mean, I think what you're saying is right, that eventually Minnesota's law will get struck down. There are other laws in Minnesota that he was also violating. So, for example, in Minnesota, if you're carrying a permanently concealed handgun, you have to have your concealed carry license with you. He had no id. He had neither his concealed carry.

Eric Bolling (23:43)

And so John. And NRA is pushing back their gun rights advocates who are saying you don't need to carry it on you as long as you're licensed. There are those.

Dr. John Lott (23:50)

Okay, well, I'm just saying. Right. Eventually the courts may get to these issues.

Eric Bolling (23:55)

Right.

Dr. John Lott (23:56)

Okay.

Eric Bolling (23:56)

Right.

Dr. John Lott (23:57)

And, but here's my point.

Eric Bolling (23:59)

I don't want to do, I don't not want to defend ICE because it fits this political narrative right now, when in reality it could be the other way around down the road. And you're allowing government or police states to de arm you when you're not supposed to be the armed, when you have the right to carry that, whether you got your, your license in your pocket or not. That's all John, I, I love, I agree.

Dr. John Lott (24:27)

The bottom line is this. If, and this is what you're giving the advice when you're five years old from your dad, and that is, you know, if you think the police are wrong to arrest you. Argue it out in court eventually.

Eric Bolling (24:40)

Right.

Dr. John Lott (24:41)

But don't go and fight the officers right there. And, and just in terms of not doing something really stupid, don't go and fight officers. At the same time you have a gun with you.

Eric Bolling (24:51)

That's a great. This is one of the biggest things you ever do. If you're ever pulled. I have a gun. If you ever pulled over, the first thing you say to the cop, just want you to know I have a firearm in my glove compartment. Just to show that you're not intending to use it at all costs. John, really good having you on. Loving these discussions. Second Amendment is so powerful and so, so important. Dr. John Lott, President of Crime Prevention Research Center. We'll get you back on again very soon. Thank you.

Dr. John Lott (25:15)

Great talking to you, Eric. Thank you.

Eric Bolling (25:17)

All right folks, we'll be back. Two and a half minutes. Take a look at that. Minneapolis, Minnesota. Guess what it is. A bunch of folks trying to protest. Hopefully they keep it a protest and not a riot. Remember, the first amendment to the US Constitution allows you to gather peacefully, doesn't allow you to commit violence, doesn't allow you to punch a cop, run over a cop, bite a cop's thumb off, doesn't allow you to break windows. It allows you to gather peacefully, to have your opinion, opinions heard. We want that, we want to protect that First Amendment. By the way, 9 degrees right there right now, folks. Feels like is around a two plus two. It's gonna get to when that sun goes down, about another hour or so, it'll be down to minus 3 degrees and those folks are out there. I wonder how many of those are being paid. Or should I say it might be easier to find out how many are not being paid. Minneapolis, Minnesota all right. Things are not always as they seem. George Floyd was a deeply flawed human being. A drug addicted lifelong criminal who once held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach. But he became some sort of saint. To the left, Renee Good dedicated herself to disrupting ice rates and believed that criminal illegal aliens were the good guys. So called anti ice warrior. But she's become a saint to the Democrats. Alex Preddy was not just a peaceful protester. It turns out apparently their Democrat hero nurse attacked ice begging to be attacked. But he's become some sort of saint to them as well. But maybe he wasn't the kind of gentle nurse they so desperately want you to think he was.

Eric Bolling (26:56)

They chose to. They killed the wrong guy.

Chris McCall (26:59)

Right?

Eric Bolling (26:59)

Because this is like, this is like the perfect guy. Alex Preddy is the guy you would want to date your daughter.

Rena Shah (27:05)

They want the guy.

Eric Bolling (27:06)

You want your son to grow up to be a decent human being who.

Rena Shah (27:10)

Was serving humanity, serving sick veterans who is.

Eric Bolling (27:16)

You know, there is nothing that has.

Eric Bolling (27:17)

Been said about that man that isn't wonderful. And so they can't malign him. They can't malign him because we have the videos.

Dr. John Lott (27:27)

Sure.

Eric Bolling (27:27)

Anna Navarro, Republican copy, but not all the videos. It turns out the guy you want to date your daughter. Things are not always as they seem. Just a father minding his own business. Yeah, right. Just a mom driving her kids to school. Okay. Just a neighborhood nurse observing. Right. Things are not always as they seem. But the left seems to bend over backwards to turn the bad guys into their saints. While Charlie Kirk was murdered in broad daylight, gunned down just for holding public debates and having opinions the left disagrees with. At the worst, most evil end of it, there were celebrations. Social media was littered in, dancing and enjoying the tragic moment. And the media, the leftist politicians, they refused to fully acknowledge just how tragic it was that someone would be murdered just because you would disagree with him. That's it. Nothing else. They disgustingly implied that Charlie Kirk was asking for it. They slammed him. They slandered him. We haven't forgotten them either. As always, we bring receipts. Can't stop with these sort of awful.

Chris McCall (28:33)

Thoughts you have and then saying these.

Eric Bolling (28:35)

Awful words and not expect awful actions to take place. And that. That's the unfortunate environment we're in.

Eric Bolling (28:40)

The rhetoric that Charlie Kirk continuously put out, there was rhetoric that specifically targeted people of color. And so it is unfortunate that even our colleagues could not see how harmful his rhetoric was specifically to us. And I can tell you that a month prior to him passing away, he had actually gotten out on his podcast. I wasn't aware of this at the time, but he got out there and he was talking negatively about me directly. So if there was any way that I was going to honor somebody who decided that they were just going to negatively talk about me and proclaim that I was somehow involved in the great white replacement. Yeah, I'm not honoring that kind of stuff today. What I find jarring is that there are so many people willing to excuse the most reprehensible things that he said. But I am not going to sit here and be judged for not wanting to honor any legacy this man has left behind. That should be in the dustpin of history and we should hopefully move on and forget the hate that he spewed every single day. One of the things I do want to Point out that's not been laid out, that honestly hurts my heart is when I saw the no votes. There were only two Caucasians. For the most part. The only people that voted no were people of color. Because the rhetoric that Charlie Kirk continuously put out there was rhetoric that specifically targeted people of color. And so it is unfortunate that even our colleagues could not see how harmful his rhetoric was specifically to us.

Eric Bolling (30:15)

The thing that is so obvious about it, and I think is so disgusting, is that you don't really care. You don't really care about Charlie Kirk. What you care is that this is a moment that you can use to. To. For clicks. You know, I care about Don Lemon. That you got your ass arrested last night, the federal agents knocked on your door, put you in cus, and they took you down. And we're waiting to see how that turns out. Way to go, Don. Way to go. Breaking into a church service with little kids in the pews. Way to go. Bring the crowd in there. You got what you deserve, fafo, as they say. So let me get this straight. Democrats, Charlie Kirk saying things you don't like warrants his being murdered, Assassinated. Charlie Kirk just voicing opinions that don't gel with your agenda means that he deserved being killed. That was the overall message delivered by Democrats in the days and weeks, maybe even months after his murder. For words. Not for trying to run over a federal agent with your vehicle. Not for kicking and screaming at federal agents, not for interfering with federal operations. The left created Renee Goodes and Alex Predis out of thin air. They created an army of Renee Goodes and Alex Predis out of desperation because it's their last resort. And the world, or at least part of the world, is falling for it. Renee Goode made it her life's mission to obstruct ice. She lost her life doing so when she chose to assault federal law enforcement with a deadly weapon. Her car. But they've turned her into some sort of saint. And now new video shows that Preddy wasn't the angel they're making him out to be. Far from it. The truth turns out to be that Alex Preddy was a violent agitator. Watch. He repeatedly went out armed to deliberately instigate physical confrontations with law enforcement. Pretty is no victim. He was not a mere protester. But he was created out of the left's madness. Things aren't always as they seem. And you see, this is the part where someone on the left would say something like, he got what was coming to him. Actually, here's where I lay Blame on every single Democrat who instigated this crescendo moment in the Minneapolis story. Turns out that Renee Goode and Alex Preddy were trained domestic extremists impeding law enforcement. And the whole world fell for the story the left wanted them to hear. The deaths of Renee Good, Alex Preddy. Tragic, no doubt. They were also unnecessary. No doubt. But let's be clear. Their deaths are only unnecessary because if the left still had any respect for the law, for this country, and for a democracy, their deaths wouldn't have happened in the first place. Their deaths happen because they were recruited by a power hungry, bloodthirsty leftist mob through their words, their fiery and slanders rhetoric. Am I right? Jacob Fry, ice. Get the F out of here. Tim Walls. Like Hitler, like Gestapo. Their slanderous rhetoric. Day in and day out. The left recruited an army of misguided leftists who see the world completely backwards. The illegals and criminals must be defended with their lives. If it comes down to it. Well, while the brave men and women working to defend this country and its citizens. Well, we need to. I don't. Get rid of them somehow. Imagine how sick and twisted that is that these people are willing to risk their lives, these people on the left, not for their own country or the countrymen, but for the lives of rapists, murderers, illegal invaders. But somewhere along the way, the left has decided that the only way to get their way and to get their agenda across is to get people killed while they pretend it's righteous. Things are not always as they seem. And the truth is, it's the left that has the blood of Renee Good and Alex Pretty on their hands. This is the world they created. We're just living in it. We'll be right back. So, apparently, Don Lemon found out. Arrested last night in Los Angeles, spent the night in jail. All for helping storm and terrorizing the church under the guise of journalism. And I do that with Don Lemon. I use the air quotes. Journalism. Here's a little reminder of what they did. What do you think of it? I mean, this is unacceptable. It's shameful. It's shameful to. To interrupt a public gathering of Christians in worship. But there were folks. I have to take care of my flock. Okay, listen, we live in a. There's a constitution in the First Amendment to freedom of speech and the freedom to assemble in protest. Yeah, except it doesn't allow you to break into places of worship and terrorize people. It's to assemble peacefully, not breaking the churches, Donnie. But you found out, didn't you and Don's comment, the statement right here, I'm quoting Don Lemon. The First Amendment exists to protect journalists, whose role it is to shine light on the truth and hold those in power accountable. That part's true. Instead of investigating the federal agents who killed two peaceful Minnesota protesters. That part's false. The Trump Justice Department is devoting its time, attention, and resources to this arrest. That part's false. And that is the real indictment of wrongdoing in this case. No, they will get to the bottom of the deaths that happen at the end. Back end of some violent protesters attacking ICE agents. I'm sure they will, Don. You can't break in, brother. You can't. You can't hide behind the First Amendment for doing that. Like I said, imagine if I walked into a church. I'm sorry, I walked into a mosque with a Make America Great, A MAGA hat on, with my shoes on, and I started spewing Catholic stuff around a mosque. You think they'd be all right with that under an Obama or Biden Justice Department? No. I'd be in handcuffs, too, just like you, Donnie. Meanwhile, Lemon's fellow church writer Nakima Levy Armstrong, certainly has an interesting take on being arrested.

Eric Bolling (36:17)

We had belly chains around our waist, and we had handcuffs with bars in the middle. As someone who majored in African American studies, I can tell you that that is the closest I ever felt the slavery in my life. Being shackled as if I was a slave. It is unacceptable and unconscionable, but it's on brand.

Eric Bolling (36:41)

You were detained, young lady. You weren't a slave. You were detained because you broke a law. They had reasonable suspicion that you broke a law. We'll find out if you broke a law or not, won't we? Dollar Store Obama has now graduated to making outright threats against Kristi Noem, using language he very well much knows will incite even more violence. Hakeem Jeffries. Timu Obama isn't even hiding it anymore. Disgraceful. She's got to go. We are dead serious. She needs to be put on ice permanently. She's got to go. And by the way, she's not the only one. Okay, whatever you say. She may go, but it'll be on her record. I'll bet that I, by the way, is apple cider vinegar. So the apple cider vinegar from the stage attack against Elon Omar may have gone to Elon Omar's brain. Can someone double check and make sure she's okay? Pretty awful Freudian slip right here.

Eric Bolling (37:39)

Now our community is reeling from their murder that were entirely affordable. Affordable.

Eric Bolling (37:51)

I shouldn't laugh at that. All right, looks like the fraudster's latest tactic is to completely downplay the billions of dollars of fraud. Yeah. He oversaw and allowed his state. Timmy Walls for some reason, Elmer fraud. Tim Walls thinks it's now acceptable because hey, it happens everywhere.

Dr. John Lott (38:07)

You know, mentioned this fraud investigation and the reason that they're here.

Eric Bolling (38:10)

Is there anything you think when you.

Dr. John Lott (38:12)

Look back you could have done differently.

Eric Bolling (38:13)

To prevent them from showing up and.

Dr. John Lott (38:14)

Doing what they're doing here?

Eric Bolling (38:15)

No, no, they were coming anyway. We had, this was, it was all make believe that we'd been at it. Every state had this. This fraud thing happens in every state. We had it here. I take responsibility for it. No one in state government anything to do with it.

Dr. John Lott (38:26)

But people stole from us.

Eric Bolling (38:28)

You're toasted. This guy is in a lot, lot, lot, lot of trouble. You can see in his face. You could just tell. It's not that his political career is toast. I think he's really, really fearing going to jail and he might. Kara Swisher Comparing Stephen Miller, who's Jewish by the way to one of the most renowned and highest ranking members of the Nazi regime, Heinrich Himmler is a prime example of just how insane the leftists have become. The venom they spew without regard to show everything without regard just shows how deep and deranged the disease of theirs has really become.

Eric Bolling (39:00)

And I would last like to call out Stephen Miller who is in the center of this. We always focus on Trump as we often focus on the top people. But Stephen Miller like a man named Ben Datson, he was the one who created the internment cancer, Japanese high Heinrich Himmler and the, in the, in the Nazi regime. This is what he is. And he, he, he of course Trump gets the most of the blame being the top at the top. But people like Stephen Miller will go down in history as evil had blood on his hands and should be jailed at the very end of this. And you're absolutely right.

Eric Bolling (39:38)

Living renfry in these Democrats heads is amazing. Clearly the memo to slander Stephen Miller extends well into the Democrat party. Elon Omar, fresh from her ooh so dangerous attack. She almost died from the apple cider vinegar jumps on the bandwagon trying to get Stephen Miller killed.

Eric Bolling (39:54)

But he should ever have hired Stephen Miller who basically has a, is a copycat of the Nazis and that's kind of the cruelty that he wants to, you know, inflict on, on people.

Eric Bolling (40:10)

You know, you can't do this. If we, if we did it and someone Got killed or hurt like Charlie Kirk, you go nuts. They would, they would probably if, if it was a Biden Justice Department and all these roles were reversed, they'd be throwing MAGA people in jail left and right, left and right. Much like Stephen Miller and Tom Homan, Greg Bovino, who was the Border patrol commander involved in the chaos in Minneapolis, has become one of the left's names and faces to throw out as pure evil. And while there are some questions out there regarding exactly his future, he went back to California for Trump. Leave it to the likes of Chicago Mayor Brandon. Let's go. Brandon Johnson to make it about something entirely different. It's unfortunate that Greg Bevino's.

Dr. John Lott (41:00)

That his legacy.

Eric Bolling (41:04)

Will take time for people to understand how nasty of an individual he really is. It's clear that the far right in this country that they have not accepted the results of the Civil War and that they have longed for a rematch, to have a republic that subjugates and subjects individuals to a permanent lower class civil war rematch. You know, they heighten the rhetoric and, and people get hurt. And you wonder why. I mean, you think when they heighten the rhetoric, it doesn't somehow dog whistle. All these lunatic white liberals who seem to have some sort of guilt complex go out in these streets and act crazy with cops. I mean, literally, it's not the people, the deportees are doing this. It's white liberal people.

Chris McCall (41:57)

Wow.

Eric Bolling (41:58)

Crazy. All right, folks, let's see how well you really know performance. At what age do men start losing testosterone levels? 10, 15, 20, 50, 70? You know, what about red light therapy? Is this important? Does it work or is it all junk science? How about placebo effect? This one's interesting, you know, where you believe you're getting a positive health benefit from a modality when there's literally no substance or science behind the modality. How effective is the placebo effect? Is it under 10%, 20 to 30%? Or more than 30%? The answer, I guarantee, will shock you if, if no one ever, ever. If you don't know any of the answers to these, or you just question them, you need to know the truth. The headlines don't matter. The truth matters. That's why the edge just crossed a half a million views. Four months, four months in a week. Half a million views. 10153 subscribers and counting and 20,000 watch hours. But get this. 55 of the view of the views and viewers are brand new to the channel. So I want you to go to that QR code, take your camera, subscribe Just join this group, it's growing. Or go to YouTube and type in Eric Bowling the Edge or Eric bowling the edge. YouTube, on Google, wherever and subscribe. Really, really, really want you to be here. Friday's a good day to sharpen your edge. Thank you for your viewers ship to Rev. Thank you for watching Bowling on Rev at 4 o' clock Eastern. Thank you for subscribing either there or on YouTube. Let's bust out. 55% of you aren't even subscribers. But thank you for watching anyway. We'll be right back. There you go. Downtown Skinneapolis Minneapolis, Minnesota still 9 degrees. The sun is starting to cover some of those. Oh no, there they are. I'm sorry, they're still in the sun. See? Yeah, maybe they picked the. The street that stayed sunlit for as long as possible. By the way, how many, how many of those folks are being paid down there? I would say vast majority of them. Don't you? Now take it one step further. How many of those folks are white people down there who are somehow feeling guilty about their white privilege, putting their butts on that street for something they have no reason to be on that street for ICE agents and law enforcement trying to protect your white asses. Sorry. Sorry to say that. All right, folks. Hey, Mad Dog, can we get a picture? Control room. There you guys go. What's up control room? Friday I got some VMs for us. Mad Dog.

Dr. John Lott (44:33)

Yes sir. This is Chris McCall on Elon Omar and Pam Bondi.

Chris McCall (44:38)

Hey brother.

Dr. John Lott (44:38)

Hey.

Chris McCall (44:38)

This is Chris McCall, patriot. I'm on getter. Hey, I got a question for you. How come they have not got rid of Omar? She hasn't been kicked out of Congress. She hasn't been deported. She's already stat on her oath of office. Stealing of money. The other thing is, is Pam the Attorney General? How come she's still in that office? How come Trump hasn't replaced her? She's done nothing. She's doing nothing. Bills that need to be passed. What's going on man? Like with the elections not making them safe so the Democrats can't cheat, getting illegals in there that voting that shouldn't be voted. So yeah, man, but yeah, I'm watching your show right now. I love it, man. Stay the course, brother. Stay the course.

Eric Bolling (45:16)

Stay in the course, my friend. Thank you for the voicemail. You know, I don't know what it takes to bounce a congressperson these days. It's. It's insane. They do censorship when they do something outrageous. And she's not even being censored. I mean, literally, she walked into Congress with $42 in her sh. Savings account. A negative net worth. And now she's got a positive $30 million net worth through her husband's businesses, which are probably no show jobs and gigs that. That she sends his way. That five million dollar winery that no one can find now. It's. It's insane. I hope the department of justice does aggressive. Don't let's, don't. Don't let congress do it themselves. Don't let them censor her and boo. Ooh. Throw these people in jail or throw her out of the country if she's breaking our laws. I don't even know. Are we sure she's legal? Are we? Because she's married her brother to give him legal status. Is she even legal? I don't know. I'm not saying she's not. I just asking the questions here. Just asking the questions here, so to speak. Right. Mad dog. Yes, Sir.

Dr. John Lott (46:16)

This is Mr. Nobody on Alan Dershowitz yesterday.

Chris McCall (46:19)

Oh, hi, Eric. This is just a nobody from Cleveland, Ohio. Con. Yeah, I just watched your episode today. Great show. Had this dude on there trying to look to me like he was trying to stick up for the Clintons and Epstein. I mean, come on now. He just. Because he was there. No, he saw nothing. What about the photos with slick Willie in the pool with. With young girls and slick Lily on the plane with young women sitting on his lap? And where was he going? You know, there was also a ranch somewhere out west that he had, and victims were there. Egregious stuff happened to him. So I think that dude needed to do more homework. Love your show. Have a great day. Take care. Bye bye.

Eric Bolling (47:00)

Thank you for calling. You're not Mr. Nobody. You called in. I love your comment. It was. It was. It was amazing. So many of you called in about that Alan Dershowitz interview yesterday. In fact, we did the interview, and be perfectly honest is how we put a show together. We pre taped it. We're like, we have a full show yesterday, and we had our guest lined up yesterday. We're gonna hold that interview for today because of the things he said. We're like, no, let's get this out there right away. I was shocked. Alan Dershowitz. I don't know what his involvement was. I know he was Epstein's lawyer. I'm not accusing of anything, but his tune certainly changed a lot. I found him very much defending Bill Clinton, very much defending Jeffrey Epstein, very much blaming the victims. Blaming the victims. It's kind of like what the left does with law enforcement. Blame the people who are trying to keep the peace and give a pass to the criminals, the people who are breaking the law. I don't know where Alan gets saying that, that Bill Clinton never got involved, sir. You're right. I remember the video. Not just, not just stills. Videos of Bill Clinton in a massive hot tub. Ghislaine Maxwell and two young pretty girls. You know, that's all that was there. Hillary wasn't there. No one else is there. Just Bill and three ladies. Okay. I guess nothing happened, huh? I can't prove it, but. And as for as far as Pam Bondi. Yes, Pam. Let's get these files out there. I don't care what anyone wants. Doesn't. This is just transparency, folks. It's always the best option. Mad Dog, we'll do one more. Yes, sir.

Dr. John Lott (48:24)

This last viewer is signing off.

Chris McCall (48:26)

Yeah, Eric, I, I gotta tell you, funny when I told you guys I had to stop calling you because my wife has all been on a show. My wife was sitting down watching your show with me tonight when you played my one about the assassination of Kennedy and my, my dad, she realized it was me. She goes, I thought I told you stop calling that number. We don't need everybody getting in our act. So this really is my last phone call because she went absolutely ballistic and she does not want me doing that on the phone anymore. So. But thank you for playing a couple of mine. And God bless you guys. I am a God fearing patriot that loves this flag and loves this country and hopefully it doesn't all go down the drain because we got guys like you guys out there fighting in your staff and God bless all you guys. Love y'. All. And I'm signing off because I don't need my wife down on me anymore. But thank you for everything and God bless and good luck.

Eric Bolling (49:30)

Yeah, I have a lot to say. We played that. That gentleman's voicemail. Tell us about. His dad was one of the sharpshooters. There's 50 best sharpshooters in America. He said that he didn't believe Charlie Kirk's assassin did it though. Meant someone closer. But that he said he can't call it anymore. I hope you do call it, sir. Sorry. I hope it didn't get you in any more trouble. Hope you're watching. Tell the wife we're okay. No one's gonna. We didn't say your name or your location or your phone number. We'll keep your identity. We're not gonna dox you. All right, folks. War. I'M coming up next.

Eric Bolling (49:58)

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