Bolling! - January 8th, 2026

Summary

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Real America’s Voice: Bolling! – January 8, 2026

Host: Eric Bolling
Featuring: Sen. Ron Johnson, John Solomon, Devin Nunes, Benny Harmony
Main Theme: Unfiltered analysis of recent U.S. political events, focusing on Venezuela/U.S. intervention, oil markets, fraud in Minnesota, immigration, law enforcement controversies, and developments in American nuclear energy and technology.

Episode Overview

This episode delivers a fast-paced, opinionated look at “the issues that matter most”: Venezuela’s political situation and oil, soaring fraud cases linked to recent immigration, law enforcement confrontations and public protest, and the American energy future via fusion power. Frequent guest interviews and rapid-fire reactions to Congressional soundbites are woven into a distinctly populist, combative tone focused on exposing perceived governmental failings and mainstream narrative “distortions.”

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Key Segments & Discussion Points

1. Markets Close & Venezuela Update

[00:14] – [02:43]

• Market Recap: Dow Jones up 271, S&P flat, Nasdaq down, oil jumps $2.50/barrel (linking it to instability in Venezuela).
• Venezuela’s Reserves: Discussion of Venezuela’s vast but underperforming oil sector; speculation about U.S. companies (possibly under Trump) being enabled to drill there. Uncertainty blamed on “activist judges.”
• Reporter Benny Harmony with Secretary of War Pete Hegseth:
  • “Arsenal of Freedom” tour, promoting American defense manufacturing and cutting-edge battlefield tech.
  • Recent U.S. military actions in Venezuela and the capture of Maduro highlighted as signals of American security priorities.

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2. Sen. Ron Johnson Interview: U.S. Intervention, Oil & War Powers

[02:43] – [13:00]

• New Dietary Guidelines: Mention of event with Sen. Johnson and Health Secretary RFK Jr.; U.S. health policy briefly touched upon.
• Venezuela Operation & War Powers:
  • Johnson claims bipartisan support and constitutional legitimacy for U.S. actions in Venezuela:

    “President Trump absolutely has the constitutional authority to do this. This is undeniably good...spectacular success by the finest among us, the men and women of the military.”
    (Sen. Ron Johnson, [04:00])

  • Describes economic plans: using oil receipts (sold at global prices) in escrow to “pay civil servants” and prevent state collapse, while ousting criminal gangs and foreign adversaries.
  • Host and guest frame opposition as “Trump derangement syndrome.”

    “It’s all Trump derangement syndrome. It’s just that sick, but that simple an answer.”
    (Sen. Ron Johnson, [06:37])

• Oil Markets: How unlocking Venezuelan oil for the world market could lower global prices and help Venezuelans.

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3. Immigration, Law Enforcement & Minneapolis Controversies

[07:36] – [13:00]

• ICE Incident in Minneapolis:
  • Discussion of the recent shooting of Renee Good by an ICE agent amid protests; debate on whether it was justified.
  • Framing: Law enforcement acts under duress due to border policies. Blame for tragedy placed on Biden and local Democratic leaders (“opening borders, ginning up obstruction”).

    “It's not ICE's fault. It's the left's fault for opening up the borders, creating this mess and then encouraging their supporters to obstruct lawful enforcement actions.”
    (Sen. Ron Johnson, [08:20])

  • Host asks if Mayor Jacob Frey should be “investigated as an accessory,” linking political rhetoric to protest violence.

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4. Minnesota Fraud Scandal & Somali Community

[11:15] – [13:00]

• Massive Medicaid Fraud:
  • Over $9B allegedly lost in Minnesota; fraud linked to healthcare, housing programs, and particularly to the Somali-American community.
  • Johnson: Medicaid fraud made possible by expansion under Obamacare; federal money is the backbone of the issue.

    “So much of this occurred through Medicaid and the Obamacare expansion of Medicaid. Medicaid expansion, which legalized fraud in some respects.”
    (Sen. Ron Johnson, [11:46])

  • Highlights whistleblowers punished for exposing fraud; calls the Somali experience “tip of the iceberg” for national waste and corruption.

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5. John Solomon: Cash Outflow & FBI/ICE Protest Investigation

[16:26] – [22:50]

• Minnesota Cash Exodus:
  • John Solomon reports $350 million per year being sent out of Minneapolis airport (mostly by Somali couriers), vastly more than JFK, sometimes onward to Dubai.

    “$350 million a year is stashed in luggage and secreted out of the Minneapolis airport...99 times larger than the cash TSA detected at JFK.”
    (John Solomon, [16:26])

  • TSA flagged, but (per Solomon) federal agencies under Biden “had utter lack of curiosity.”
• FBI/ICE Protester Crack Down:
  • FBI, HSI, and IRS now investigating organizers and funders of ICE protest actions; criminal charges may come for those obstructing law enforcement.

    “Anyone...who organized something that resulted in the obstruction of a law enforcement proceeding...could be charged with obstruction of justice.”
    (John Solomon relaying Cash Patel, [20:19])

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6. Fusion Power, American Technology Race – Devin Nunes

[23:53] – [34:48]

• Nunes on Fusion Plant Site Selection:
  • Describes effort to locate first commercial fusion reactor, potential to create “Manhattan 2.0” for U.S. energy dominance.

    “It’s so critical that the world’s first commercial fusion plant be somewhere that the people actually want you.”
    (Devin Nunes, [23:53])

  • Three-reactor prototype planned; highlights need for regulatory stability, reliable power lines, and local buy-in.
  • Cautions about Chinese acceleration and need for U.S. to “win the battle.”

    “People ask me who the competition is and I say it’s China...they’re serious about doing big things.”
    (Nunes, [29:24])

  • Stresses importance of American regulatory landscape and public-private partnerships.

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7. Rapid Reaction to Sound Bites & Congressional Deflections

[34:51] – [45:07]

• Ashley Babbitt vs. Minneapolis Shooting:
  • Criticism of Democratic narratives, contrasting reactions to Jan 6th and ICE incident in Minneapolis.
  • Supreme Court precedent cited to defend ICE shooting as lawful self-defense.
• Whistleblower Retaliation:
  • Clips underscoring Minnesota DHS punishing those who expose fraud; “the messenger is shot” ([39:20]).
• Congressional Deflections & “Blame White Men” Narrative:
  • Plays soundbites from Democratic officials (Ilhan Omar, Emily Randall, Zoran Mamdani) allegedly deflecting from fraud or crime by blaming “white men” or downplaying targeted investigations into minority communities’ wrongdoing.

    “I would say our country should be more fearful of white men across our country.”
    (Ilhan Omar, [41:22])

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8. Audience Interactions & Call-ins

[45:07] – [49:56]

• Sign Language Interpreter Humor:
  • Callers joke about the attitude of signers at Minnesota press events—host uses moment to pivot to commentary on government expenses, DEI, and accessibility.
• Accountability for Violence:
  • Callers compare prosecution of Michigan school shooter’s parents to perceived lack of accountability for Minneapolis officials post-ICE shooting.

    “They both should be held accountable for that woman being shot in the head. They started it.”

• Host’s Final Thoughts:
  • Asserts foundation of the U.S. by “Judeo Christian white settlers”; urges legal immigration and assimilation; rails against overseas fraud.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Sen. Ron Johnson on Trump’s Venezuela Policy:
  “President Trump absolutely has the constitutional authority to do this. This is undeniably good…It was a spectacular success by the finest among us, the men and women of the military.” ([04:00])

• John Solomon on Cash Exodus:
  “$350 million a year is stashed in luggage and secreted out of the Minneapolis airport…99 times larger than the total amount of cash that TSA detected in luggage at JFK International.” ([16:26])

• Devin Nunes on Fusion Power:
  “It’s so critical that the first site for the world’s first commercial fusion plant be somewhere that the people actually want you.” ([23:53]) “People ask me who the competition is and I say it’s China…they’re serious about doing big things.” ([29:24])

• Ilhan Omar on Crime:
  “I would say our country should be more fearful of white men across our country.” ([41:22])

• Bolling on ICE Shooting & Accountability:
  “Trying to run over an ICE agent isn’t protesting. It’s using a deadly weapon…Supreme Court decided deadly force may be used with lawful self-defense.” ([34:51])

• Whistleblower on Punishment for Exposing Fraud:
  “Employees who suggest improvements, or, heaven forbid, report fraud, then face significant retaliation. The messenger is shot.” ([38:34])

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Episode Flow & Tone

• The episode moves rapidly between news recap, expert guest segments, “rapid-fire” reactions to political soundbites, and unscreened call-ins, all anchored by Eric Bolling’s combative, anti-establishment posture.
• The tone is unapologetically populist, critical of Democratic leaders, fiercely supportive of law enforcement, and skeptical of immigration and government spending. Tension between “elites”/“mainstream media” and “real Americans” is a consistent undercurrent.

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Summary for New Listeners

This episode serves as a full-throttle example of Real America's Voice’s blend of high-energy news recap, unsparing conservative analysis, and guest interviews with senators, investigators, and CEOs, all focused around issues of American sovereignty, energy independence, public corruption, and the battle for narrative dominance in media and politics. If you’re interested in current right-leaning interpretations of the day’s big stories, particularly immigration, fraud, government overreach, and American technological competition, this is a comprehensive demonstration of that worldview in action.

Transcript

[A]

This is an I Heart podcast.

[B]

Guaranteed human.

[A]

Ring the bell, boys and girls on Wall Street. There they are. Wall Street. All right, folks, Thursday, we got a lot to get to.4 o', clock, the markets are closed. Let's take a look at how things ended up. Dow Jones up 271points.s and P kind of flat. Nasdaq down about 100 or so. Relatively quiet day there. There was one market that was kind of ripping today, unfortunately, was oil. And the prices were going higher, up $2.50 a barrel. That's tough, that stuff. We want to see it lower. And that may have a lot to do with, you know, what's going on with Venezuela. Venezuela has the largest. It's either the largest or second largest, depending on who you talk to. Saudi Arabian oil reserves. Venezuela oil reserves oil number one and number two. We're about three or four. Russia gets in there as well. So there's a lot of oil under Venezuela and they don't produce any. So the question, it was starting to go down because they thought Trump was going to bring the American oil companies over there, produce some of that oil, get it out of the ground, more supply prices go down. That's why we saw prices retreating. Now there may be some issues with courts and whatnot, activist judges and so $2.50 higher in the oil markets. Gold up a little bit. Not a lot quite day in the gold market. And crypto down a touch. Still holding over about 91,000. Still holding over that. All important, I would say 88,000 is a very, very big level for. For bitcoin. All right, let's go out to our congressional correspondent, Benny Harmony, who's traveling with the Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth, for his Arsenal of Freedom tour.

[C]

Yeah, we are here about to take off from JBA to head to California with Secretary of War Pete Hegseth. Now, this is the arsenal of free Freedom Tour. Secretary of War kicked this off about three weeks ago. And this is all about American manufacturing for the defense industrial base. Secretary of War is very specific when he says that he wants our defense to be the strongest that it is in the world. Now, we just saw that a few days ago with the strikes on Venezuela as well as the capture of Nicolas Maduro. So we will be wheels down, down in California here in a few hours where we will be visiting divergent technologies to talk about the AI and the technology that goes behind our war fighters and those great machines that they fly and drive and all of that. So we will be reporting more from California, but for now we are awaiting Secretary of War Hegseth right here at JBA to board.

[A]

Well, thank you, Benny. Harmony. All right. This morning I sat alongside, well, I attended an event alongside Senator RON JOHNSON, the U.S. department of Health and Human Services and the USDA, by the way, Make America Healthy Again conference. It was kind of a celebration of what they've done, that this new food pyramid, dietary guidelines, were discussed. Always happy to have the senator from the great state of Wisconsin, Ron Johnson, with us. Senator, just going to get through a couple of these things. Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. Yesterday announced new dietary guidelines for Americans which focus on whole foods, proteins, healthy fats and so on and so forth. Senator, I really want to get into this stuff. I went from that event over to the briefing room, to the White House to the briefing room. And to my surprise, J.D. vance was there and he was very lit up. I haven't seen him that poignant, that directed, that focused maybe, maybe since the election. You know, one of the things that they talked about, sure, they talked about the ICE agent and the death, but the he was really lit about this War Powers Act. Tell us what this is all about and why it really is a nonstarter. I mean, JD Vance was really ticked off, especially at the media, for pushing a narrative that doesn't seem to be anywhere near what is really going on. Senator, take us through that, will you?

[D]

Well, first of all, let's just lay the groundwork because I've done interviews and the reporters have asked me this unprecedented action. It's not unprecedented. Democrat and Republican presidents have taken similar types of action. No two things are exactly the same. President Trump absolutely has the constitutional authority to do this. This is undeniably good. What happened. I mean, it was a spectacular success by the finest among us, the men and women of the military. General Kaine gave us a briefing and it was, I mean, the Senate, I mean, I think Republican, Democrats, at the very end, we all applauded. It was such an excellent briefing and because it was such an excellent operation. So again, this was a good thing. Now we don't. Nobody can predict exactly what's going to happen. But we know this president does not want a nation build. He wants to leave it up to the Venezuelans. He's going to use all the leverage he can with the oil, will buy the oil, take it out of their storage bins so they can continue to produce oil, but we'll sell it at world prices, set up basically an escrow account to pay off civil servants so that the government doesn't Collapse and, and then figure out how to stamp out the narco terrorists, how to get rid of the Iranian and Russian and Chinese and Cuban influence in Venezuela and transition to a government that is democratic freedom and more prosperity for Venezuelan people. I mean, that's the goal. We all ought to be cheering for that, not criticizing the President for doing what other presidents, both Democrat and Republican, have done in the past.

[A]

If we stay on just the oil, oil part of it, why don't we want to get into, into the, you know, who's going to run Venezuela going? The Venezuelan people should be thrilled about this. I mean, here's the way it works. Venezuela has either the first or second largest oil reserves on the planet. They produce probably maybe the 15th most amount of oil, which means there's a, there's a disconnect here. And that was Hugo Chavez, the prior dictator, who just ran the oil industry into the ground. He didn't, he didn't update any of the industry and it died. Their oil is now being sold on the black market for about $20, $25 a barrel. 60, $60 a barrel in the open market. $25 a barrel because their embargoed. You bring this oil back at market prices, it brings the whole price of oil down and they get a higher price for their oil and they can live again. It's not dictators stealing their money. What in the world are we here? Judges, Democrats, politicians, trying to stop that. Why would we try and stop helping the Venezuelan people? And it won't cost the memorial, only help them. I, I'm trying to figure this out.

[D]

It's all Trump derangement syndrome. It's just that sick, but that simple an answer. And by the way, the 20 bucks a barrel, it's not going to the benefit of the Venezuelan people. It's going to the narco terrorists. It's being stolen by a few. And so what we're going to do is we're going to sell it at world oil prices, put in an escrow account and we'll pay those civil servants and we'll put pressure again. We've got a lot of leverage. They have a huge liquidity crisis.

[E]

There's.

[D]

And they also saw that if they don't do it right, they saw what our capabilities are and they might be next. Now we don't want that to happen, but I don't. You know, nobody in the administration is blind to the fact that there are a lot of bad actors in Venezuela today. But I think there are a lot of good people. There are 8 million people that fled. Hopefully those folks can come back and help rebuild Venezuela and it can be the type of prosperous country that it once was.

[A]

Senator, the other big story, it's just kind of really, really occupying the news cycle right now. And like I said in that briefing room, J.D. vance addressed it. He really lit into a couple of the reporters there who framed it as a murder of some sort of innocent citizen. You watch the videotape, you know what happens. You see the lady drive away. There was no ICE agent in, in harm's way. It's not whether she went after him or tried to miss him or not. The law, especially according to Jonathan Turley, the law professor who's on Fox all the time, says that he doesn't have to be in direct danger of getting hit. He just has to perceive it's someone trying to flee. They're trying to tell her to stop, and he's within his right to discharge his firearm.

[D]

Well, first of all, I'm, you know, my bias is always going to be toward law enforcement. This is a tragedy that never should have happened. Why did it happen? It's because, first of all, Joe Biden opened up the borders, allowed tens of millions of people to flood into this country. A lot of them are criminals, gang members, rapists, murderers. It's a mess. And President Trump is cleaning up that mess. It's not always pretty. It's not easy to do whatsoever. And it's far more difficult to do when you have politicians on the left, Democrats, inciting and encouraging this kind of obstruction of lawful enforcement actions. So this never would have happened if literally, if the Democrats and other leftists weren't ginning up this type of protest activity, this kind of obstruction, again, it's a tragedy all the way around. I feel bad for this person's family, certainly feel bad for that ICE officer who's probably just going to go through a living hell now just trying to defend himself again with a lawful enforcement action. But again, this didn't have to happen. And it's not ice's fault. It's the left's fault for opening up the borders, creating this mess and then encouraging their supporters to obstruct lawful enforcement actions.

[A]

What are your thoughts on Jacob Frye, mayor of Minneapolis, telling ICE to get the F out of there uses the expletive in light of what happened here. Ginning up the people of Minneapolis that, that to the point where they were stopping ICE officers, agents from leaving a scene, an area they're protesting, they're hitting with snowballs, they're Ginning up this animosity, this is this heightened rhetoric and it results in the death of someone. Is it crazy to make the leap that says Jacob Fry should be at least investigated as an accessory to the death of that woman? Whether it's negligent homicide or homicide.

[D]

One of the most depressing things that I find as a public official here and in public life and watching our body politics is that there are so many citizens that actually vote for people like Mayor Fry and Governor Tim Waltz and Joe Biden. I mean, what are our fellow citizens seeing? What information don't they have? I mean, the left, socialism, it destroys economies, it destroys social systems, it destroys the very fabric of our society. And yet we have so many of our fellow citizens electing people like Mamdani. So again, I can't explain it in terms of prosecutions. Those folks in Minnesota are probably more vulnerable to prosecution for all the fraud that they either participated in or certainly turned a blind zion when they had the duty to, to safeguard the public funds.

[A]

Senator, the other story, the fraud in Minneapolis. Question for you. $9 billion and counting. @ some point Minneapolis is going to say, hey feds, we can't afford health care for our kids because we just lost $9 billion. Their budget is like 50 something billion dollars. So it's, you know, it's 20% of their budget. They're going to say we can't. They're going to come to you for help. They're going to come to the Senate, they're coming to the feds and say, give us some. So every person watching here, whether you're from Minnesota or not, might be on the hook for some of this.

[D]

Fraud. Well, we are. We are already on the hook for it. So much of this occurred through Medicaid and the Obamacare expansion of Medicaid. Medicaid expansion, which legalized fraud in some respects. The $9 to $1 match provider fees, provider taxes, but establish all these programs. One of the programs being taken advantage of really sick is helping autistic children. The Somali population all of a sudden had a. One out of every 16 children had autism. No, they.

[F]

Didn'T.

[D]

Okay. They were scamming the system. So it's just across the board. I mean, housing programs, transportation programs, it's all daisy chained. And there's as you say, billions of dollars. And a lot of that, a lot of that is federal government money, if not most. I don't have the exact breakdown. That's kind of what my community is trying to do right now, is trying to lay this whole thing out because Minnesota is the tip of the iceberg and the Somali community may be somewhat unique, but I just have to believe when we're spending over $7 trillion, up from 4.4 trillion in 2019 before the pandemic, that there's hundreds of billions, there's hundreds of billions of dollars of fraud per year and we can't afford it. We're $38 trillion in debt and with no end in.

[A]

Sight. And no end in sight. Senator, you're absolutely correct. Thank you for joining us and thank you for going to that Maha summit. It's really cutting edge with what they're doing with our food, with our direction of our food supply and our food recommendations. Thank you, Senator. Senator Ron Johnson. All right, folks, the episode I've been telling about live, live, I'm telling you right now, it's going right now. This one changes how you see the world. If you're paying attention to my new conversation on the Edge, it's with an ESPN top level executive producer, one of the top guys there. Ever the architect behind the next level broadcast technology that reshapes sports and the way they're watched, monetized and ultimately controlled. These guys invented the pylon cam in the football end zone, in the strike zone cam for baseball. But why aren't they using it? Why aren't referees using it? This shows how systems are built, how decisions get made and why the public only notices after the outcome is locked in. If you want a surface level noise, this one isn't for you. If you want to understand how influence actually compounds before everyone else catches up, watch this episode. There's a QR code right there. Put on the screen Mad Dog. Subscribe there. Hit your phone, put your camera right towards it. Little yellow line, press it, you'll subscribe again. Never going to charge you. Never going to sell your information. Just want you part of this grow. They tell us it's elite level growth for this, this channel. Want you with us. Thank you for your support right here at rav. Thank you for supporting the bowling show and thank you for subscribing right now. YouTube. Eric bowling the edge. Go to YouTube. Eric bowling the edge. We'll be back. Two and a half minutes. Well, the new year means new financial goals like making sure your savings are secure and diversified. Will this year be the year you finally talk to someone from Birch Gold Group? You should. I do. I talk to them. I buy gold from them. I appreciate their educational approach and their understanding of macroeconomics. There are forces pushing the dollar lower and gold higher, which is why they believe every American should own physical gold. I do as well. They're right on this. I've done this a long time. $2500 an ounce. So January until January 30th, by the way, the end of the month, if you're a first time gold buyer. Birch Gold is offering a rebate of up to $10,000 on qualifying purchases. To claim the eligibility and start the process, just text the word America to 989-898. America to 989-898 via text. Birch Gold can help you roll an existing IRA or 401K into an IRA in gold and you're still eligible for a rebate of up to 10 grand. By the way, if you roll an existing IRA into gold, you're not even coming up with any more money. So now is the time to buy gold. Take advantage of a rebate of up to $10,000 when you buy by January 30th. Text that word America. 989-9898. Claim your eligibility today. Again, one more time, text the word America to 989-898. All right, let's be a little. I'm in D.C. and I'm like excited because I hear John Solomon is coming on the show. And as always, when I'm in dc, John is on set. And I didn't realize that we have different sets. Now let's bring in our good friend John Solomon, who has always, always got some amazing breaking news. John, you got some really, really interesting stuff for us. I'll let you just lay it out and we'll talk about.

[F]

It. Yeah, listen, one of the questions that we've had since we uncovered the Somali fraud scheme, by the way, we uncovered that first here at Rilla America's Voice. Just the news in August of 2024. That's when we began writing about it. The first stories anywhere in the country were In August of 2024, right here in Real America's Voice. And just the news, and we followed it for the last year. But where does that money go? What was the motive? If you're defrauding, is it just going into people's pockets? Is it going somewhere else? And what we've been able to ascertain with the help of the Transportation Security Administration, the tsa, is that a portion of that Somali money has been going overseas about $350 million a year. I'm not making this up. This is incredible, Eric. $350 million a year is stashed in luggage and secreted out of the Minneapolis airport. Now, in fairness, these Somali couriers declare it. They fill out the paperwork so they don't get arrested at the airport for having a big, heavy suitcase full of cash dollar bills. But they're moving it out of the country. Many times it would go out to Amsterdam. From Amsterdam, it would continue on to Dubai. Then the US Government stopped tracking it. But you're talking about one of the largest ATM machines creating a cash exodus from the United States anywhere in the country. The amount of money, $700 million that was in suitcases the last two years, about $350 million a year, or a million dollars a day going in suitcases and luggage out of Minneapolis, a small airport, to the rest of the world, is 99 times larger than the total amount of cash that TSA detected in luggage at JFK International in New York, one of the.

[A]

Largest. Say that again. Say that again. The Minneapolis airport, 99 times more cash went through Minneapolis than JFK. Probably one of the most busy international airports, one of them busiest on the planet. Was there dumb question, John, no red flags before.

[F]

This? Well, there were red flags inside the tsa. The TSA agents realized that this stood out like a sore thumb, that they had not ever seen anything like this anywhere in the world. But you know who wasn't interested? The Biden administration. Just like Tim Wallace wasn't interested in stopping the fraud, the Biden administration wasn't interested in stopping this ATM cash flow out the door, out the United States. And so now the Trump administration, on top of it, they have an HSI FBI investigation into this. And there are discussions that they may either do an executive order or Congress will pass a law very quickly so that anyone who's unlawfully in the country cannot move money out. You can't go to a remittance center and send US Dollars out, and you can't go to a cash courier. So going forward, these vendors, the remittance center vendors, which are another big multibillion dollar part of outflow of money from the United States, they're going to have to certify under penalty of perjury, that they checked, and the person that they're moving the money for is lofting the country. They think.

[A]

That. But let me ask you. So that accounts for the transportation of the money. But I know If I bring $10,001 back from Las Vegas in cash, not only do I have to declare it, I'm getting a call from the irs. Where was the IRS on.

[F]

This? We don't know what the Homeland Security Officials I talked to said there was an utter lack of curiosity by the Biden administration and all of its apparatus. The FBI, the HSI, the no 1. It was like no one want, no one cared. Even though the TS agents were flagging it daily in some cases. A million bucks in a suitcase, by the way. That's a heavy suitcase, by the way, too. That ain't a light suitcase, so you're probably paying an over the.

[A]

Suitcase. Don't lose my bag. Don't lose my bag. What was in it? $1 million. Oh, yeah, right. Yeah. You have some really good, interesting news too. I don't know if folks don't understand this cash Patel told you what.

[F]

Today? Yeah. That the FBI does in fact have a criminal investigation into the organizers and funders of these anti ICE protests. Anyone, he said, who organized something that resulted in the obstruction of a law enforcement proceeding. An operation by ICE could be charged with obstruction of justice. That is the first time ever that I know of that an FBI director has said that and told protesters. This is not from First Amendment protected activity. You can shout and yell and have your slogans and your posters. The second you pull a car in front of an ICE officer, the second you throw a snowball at an ICE officer, the second you try to trip up, stop, impede. The second you tip off people that ICE are coming in an operation, you have crossed over from free speech protection to obstruction of justice. And that I think is going to be the big news in the next few days. I would not be surprised if we saw some law enforcement activity targeting the organizers and funders of the protests in the next few.

[A]

Days. So, you know, you got to be careful here because this guy likes to sue everyone. George Soros. But I did notice that Trump mentioned George Soros a couple of days ago, in fact, in this vein, not necessarily accusing him, but in this, in this vein, I'm thinking Soros, I'm thinking Iran, maybe even China. What do we have? Do we have a short.

[F]

List? We don't know yet. We don't know. And these are unique protests. They just started. Right. So I think what you're looking at now, I mean, there's been years of protests going all the way back to pre George Floyd. Who are these specific operations in Minnesota targeting, these Minnesota ICE operations? That's going to be. It could be Somali money, for all we know. It could be Democratic lawmakers, campaigns, could be donating. Remember we had Kamala Harris and other people who were trying to bail out protesters back in 2000 or 2020. We don't know yet on this one because it's so contemporaneous and new. But we do know that the FBI, IRS and HSI are on this together. They've got a joint approach on this. And it's the first time ever that we've ever heard a federal law enforcement boss say, this is going to result in criminal charges. If you're involved in obstructing us, you're getting handcuffs thrown on you. That is something that I think Americans have wondered for the last 10 years. Why haven't we done it? I think we now have the answer. It's about to be.

[A]

Done. That's great. And John, always good to have you on because you get the best news and the first news and. And then the other people report it and they kind of like tried to take credit for. I want to make sure John Solomon gets credit for that. John Solomon, just the news. You're awesome, John. Really good talking to you again and good to be in D.C. next time we'll sit.

[F]

Together. Next time I'll make sure I'm in right beside.

[A]

You. All right, see you soon. Okay, folks, we're going to get out of here. We get a hard break here. We'll be right back. Two and a half minutes. All right, our next guest is the CEO of Truth Social and the Chairman of the President's Intelligence Advisory Board. I'm happy to have Devin Nunes back on the show. Really good to have you back, Mr. CEO. Devin, last time you're on, we discussed the merger between Trump Media and Technology Group and the TAE Technologies. Now you started looking for the right location for the first fusion power plant. I would call that site selection. So many variables, Devin. So many variables. Taxes, labor, regulatory environments, political stability within the state assumes in the United States. If not, tell us, but what are the things that you look at as a CEO to decide where this. This plant is going to go?

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Yeah. Well, thanks, Eric. This is all issues that are at the heart of your show where you have kind of this situation where new technology is meeting government and it's so critical that the first site for the first world's first commercial fusion plant be somewhere that the people actually want you. So we've been working with TAE Technologies, who's the company that we're merging with. That's all still under the Trump Media Technology umbrella. The DJT ticker symbol. But what's amazing about this is it actually for the first project, we're looking at three initial reactors. So one is the 50 megawatt commercial reactor. The Second one would be the larger one that would compete against essentially any plant that's out there and that's at the 350 to 500 megawatt size. And then the third reactor would be for advanced, advanced research. All that on a 20 acre site. So there's a lot of sites around the, around the country that could work and around the world. But obviously American company, we want to keep this, this technology at least for the first stage in the United States of America. But that's I think just amazing that it's only on, on 20 acres. Now look, we are going to, you produce that much power, you need to be on major transition lines. You want to be very safe and secure. And as you, as you said and rightfully point out, you want to be somewhere where the local people actually want you. And so we put out this criteria that is, you know, that you can find online. And you know, we're actually, we're getting calls from all over the country right now. So it's quite, quite interesting the states that are popping up that want to be on this cusp of what is really an innovative future for America with fusion power that you know, up to a few years ago everybody thought was, oh, it's always going to be 10 or 20 years off. That's no longer the case today because of the advancements that have been made. And that's why TAE is really the world's premier company because they have so many patents. They've built five different machines reactors in the past. And so now that they're ready to go to this commercial reactor that is called Da Vinci, this is why the purpose of our merger and really puts us on it. This is an issue that we have to win. As you know, Eric, you actually sent me the other day the some, a few articles on what the Chinese are doing. So you're very well aware of this. People ask me who the competition is and I say it's.

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China. Yeah, I want to get to that in just one second, Devin, because when you're doing the site and you know your first plant, it's normally, I would say a 10 year forward. Look is this 10, 15, 20. And then the other question is which of the states are on the short list right.

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Now? Well, I would say that, you know, we, you want to go somewhere, the first one that, where you can build three. Right. So that's why we put that in the criteria. You want to be able to do three because you don't want to. As this is new technology, you want to be able to start the first one and then also be thinking about the second one and then, and then also the third. Obviously it depends on, you know, these, you know, at 350 to 500 to 500 megawatt, you start building these, these large ones out, going to need a location that can, that can handle a lot of power being put onto the transmission line. So there's a lot of locations around the US that work. I can tell you that. We've been, I think we've been contacted now by I think six or seven different entities or different states, but six or seven different states now have reached out through different entities. So it's, it's moving fast and we're, you know, we're excited about it because, you know, look, the United States has been sitting around here doing nothing for the last step, building bird killers, as the president calls them. With the windmill, with the windmills and then the solar panels that we're buying from China. This is actually putting America back on the move. If people talk about energy dominance, that's what this is all about. And as we talked on your show last time, you can do all the AI that you want, build all the data centers, want, have all this great technology, robotics, but if you don't have power, it doesn't matter. And that's why China's so far ahead of us, because they've invested in traditional nuclear fission plants and they built coal plants and they built gas plants while we sat here doing nothing. So that's why it's so exciting to find a company, find a privately held company over nearly 30 years, investors like Google, Chevron, Stanley Druckenmiller, Chuck Schwab, you know, these are the who's who. And marrying them up with, with our company is just so exciting because I think, you know, between, you know, kind of the, the regulatory issues that, that, you know, I have so much experience with and then working with these great scientists, the world's best scientists. It's just a great, it's a great match and an exciting project to be part.

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Of. Yeah, just, just, you know, I've done energy my whole entire career before tv. You want to be near some population centers, you also have to have the, you know, the distribution. You have to be able to get the energy produced and to the places where you're going to use it. I'm thinking Pennsylvania. I'm also thinking Tennessee Valley Authority, given its quasi government partnership going on. Whatever. You don't have to get into it. I sent you the article because in video was pushing forward in this with China. So speed is of the essence. Can you beat Nvidia and China to this US.

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Market? Well look, it's all about. You never quite know what the Chinese have or don't have, right? So. Because they don't always tell the truth. But I do believe just based on what you know, what I know now from what Tae has discovered over the last 25 years, I think China is looking at a few different ways to go about it. There are news reports, but as you know, this is done by fake news and legacy media. So you don't quite know what's true. But this much I know is true about it. About the Chinese, Eric, they're serious about doing big things. That's why they're producing three to four times more power than we do today in the United States of America. They produce it in China. So they probably know what I know. They know that and they've probably been investing billions of dollars. Where you know, in our case in the United States, you know, we've had this private company doing investment, there's a couple other fusion companies, but for the most part we've sat idle. I think we've only built two new old style, old style fission reactors in the last, you know, in the last 25 years, 30.

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Years. What. So any big, any big new venture, especially a venture like this with a new technology, you have execution risk. What, what keeps CEO because you're going to be so co CEOs with the TAE Technology CEO. What keeps Devin Nunez up at night worrying about execution.

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Risk? You know it's really about, in my mind it's about keeping everything on track. Right. There's so many things that have to happen here. Now the good thing is with, with fusion, it is, it is essential especially if we're successful doing that burning the boron, it's radioactive free so it's really safe. So you know, meeting those deadlines, right? So finding the right location, finding the right site, bringing the right players together, making sure that we can foster an environment for this company to succeed. I mean what we bring to the table is we're a public company. We have access to the capital markets. We have a very well heeled balance sheet that most companies do not have. And then of course we have this advantage in just kind of understanding the do's and don'ts of the road. I mean these are common sense things Eric, that you and I know. But you know, a lot of people don't understand and that is that, you know, picking the right location is critical. I've Seen how many deals have you seen over the years where they go in, they think that they think the local community wants them, they think that the state wants them. They get, you know, hundreds of millions of billions of dollars into the project and all of a sudden people pull the plug. Oh, I don't want that. Not in my backyard. We don't want that. So it's so important to go in first finding exactly the right places, the right.

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Locations. That don't just sounds like, sounds like you're making an outreach to various states. You want us, prove you want us and maybe cut you a tax deal, which would be phenomenal. And by the way, it's so much better to be in an environment where they actually want you there and they don't have, well, look at.

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Protest. And Eric, I'll tell you, you know this issue very, very well. I mean you mentioned tva. I mean it's, that's an obvious place. I mean the TVA is a, is a big, you know, it's a large, you know, a large landmass. You know, I think it's seven, some seven different states. Tva, Tennessee Valley Authority and you know, what I've called this project is Manhattan 2.0. And so ironically, the TVA was heavily involved in the first Manhattan Project that then led to the first atomic power that was used domestically for, for, you know, on the, you know, on, you know, first in the nuclear navy and then these fission plants that came along. So the TVA is a, is a logical location. But even with the tva you got to make sure that you pick the right location. I'm not saying obviously the TVA is on the list. It's a, it's a no brainer as you know. But look, there's going to be a lot of other states and locations that have already reached out that are not in the tva but, but, but that do definitely do qualify. So it's going to be an interesting process that like I said, this is exciting. It's exciting to be doing something where you have the country on the move again looking to really, you know, there's nothing more important than this lowering the price of power to people so that we can get, be competitive in manufacturing, competitive in data centers. AI, all of this is so exciting. I mean, you've seen, you know, Elon's talking, you know, about what AI can do. But with AI, it's going to be to do a lot of things and make life a lot easier. It's going to really disrupt the planet as we know it. But it can't happen without power. Clean, abundant.

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Power. Right? It is literally a sieve sucking energy and infusion. This new, new outlook, new frontier for power, especially for the AI, that will give us a complete head start in the air war. And we want to be first. This is the one that we want to win the battle. Devin Nunes, always good having you on. Chairman of the President's Intelligence Advisory Board, CEO of Truth Media Group, and also the upcoming merger with the TAE Technologies. Really looking forward to it, Devin. And as things progress, please come back and tell us.

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More. Thanks a lot, Eric. Thanks for having.

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Me. All righty, folks, we'll be back. Two and a half minutes. All right, how about a little. We call this rapid reactions. We play some sound bites and we rapidly react to them. Just two days ago on January 6th, Democrats and the media spent all day saying if Ashley Babbitt didn't put herself in the position to be shot, then she'd be alive. But just a day later, that same argument for the activist in Minneapolis was nowhere to be found. Think about that. To be clear, what happened yesterday is tragedy. But the facts remain. Renee Good was ordered out of her car. She refused. She backed up and then she drove forward, straight into an ICE agent. You can see her hit the agent. The agent drew his gun only when her vehicle started moving towards his body and it was in self defense. Let's also be clear about something. In a 20149 to 0 Supreme Court decision, Justice Alito writes, it stands to reason that if police officers are justified in firing at a suspect in order to end a severe threat to the public safety, the officers need not stop shooting until the threat has ended. The vehicle becomes a deadly weapon when it's used intentionally or recklessly in a way that can kill. Trying to run over an ICE agent isn't protesting. It's using a deadly weapon. And under the law, Supreme Court decided deadly force may be used with lawful self defense. Facts don't matter to Elmer Fraud. Yep, we said Elmer Fraud. Timepod and Timmy Wallace is a new nickname around here. Listen to what Elmer Fraud had to say. Well, I said this yesterday. We've never been at war with our federal government. I think in this case that the National Guard is, is their main mission. They have a dual mission. There's, there's. I think his time's up. I think Elmer Fraud should stay off television, go bunker down, hunker down with his legal team and figure out how you're going to defend yourself because you knew, you knew about this stuff for A very long time. Elmer Fraud Waltz. Meanwhile, Jacob Fry, that little weasel mayor of Minneapolis, also has a clear message to federal officers doing their.

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Jobs. First, just want to make clear that the news coming out of Minneapolis is horrific. This is one part of what has been a year full of cruelty. And we know that when ICE agents attack immigrants, they attack every single one of us across this country. And this is a city and will always be a city that stands up for immigrants across the five boroughs. And I have made it clear to everyone within my city government, and that extends to nypd, that we are going to uphold our sanctuary city.

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Policies. Well, clearly that's not Jacob Fry. Hey, Mad Dog. Mad Dog, jump on here. Yes, sir. That was. That was Zoram.

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Mamdani. That.

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Was. Yeah, yeah, but that's right. We just listen. This is what we roll. We're just, you know, we figured out we just missed that sound bite in between. But you know what the funny thing is? Mad Dog and folks, you can almost interchange Jacob Fry and Zorin Mamdani. Zoran Mamdani in New York called it murder by the ICE agent in New York, Jacob Fry said, get the F out of Minneapolis to the ice. I mean, these progressive, leftist folks are going to kill this great American dream. I think this is a setup for the. For the Mom. Donnie. Soundbite. We can skip that one. Let's go to the next one, guys. All right. Well, this is incredible. At a hearing yesterday about the fraud in Minnesota, whistleblower talks about how those who call out the fraud in their state are committing career suicide and face significant retaliation. This is getting bigger, bigger by the day. Instead of focusing on fraudsters, DHS leadership instead focused its surveillance on employees. Since then, their expressed fear of retaliation has intensified under an avalanche of fraud. In Minnesota. Ms. Bernstein, a former compliance specialist, stated, Minnesota DHS functions in the opposite manner as you would think. Employees who suggest improvements or, heaven forbid, report fraud, then face significant retaliation. The messenger is shot. She says she was later escorted out of the building, faced lengthy investigation, got trespassed, fraud from all DHS owned and leased properties, and received involuntary transfer to another state agency. I don't even know what to say about these. These ridiculous folks. This is an interesting strategy, I guess. At the hearing, Democrat Massachusetts Congressman Stephen Lynch. This guy's really annoying. Felt it necessary to talk about things the President has done that have no bearing whatsoever on the American taxpayer. Watch. It is shameful. It is a case of stolen valor. For this President to put his name above the name of John F. Kennedy. That is a fraud being perpetrated on this country right.

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Now. And if we're really interested in.

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Rooting out fraud, how about starting right there? I have legislation that will take Trump's name off that. Off that building. So lynch is worried about Trump saying the Trump Kennedy center in Washington, D.C. is place where people go and watch, I don't know, opera or whatever the heck they do there. But he's not worried about $9 billion of actual fraud going on in Minnesota or the, who knows, hundreds of billions of dollars. And I would call it fraud when you bring in 20 million illegals across our border and we're spending literally $200 billion a year housing and feeding illegals. You want to talk fraud? Stop worrying about a name on a theater. Start worrying about your actual money. Lynch. Another interesting approach in deflecting from the massive fraud in Minnesota this, the deflection group Democrats is the shift in attention to white men, which is a clear strategy passed on by none other than you know who. You ready? Elon Omar, A lot of conservatives in particular would say that the rise in Islamophobia is a result not of.

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Hate, but a fear, a legitimate fear.

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They say, of quote unquote, jihadist terrorism.

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Whether it's Fort Hood or San Bernardino or the recent truck attack in New.

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York. What do you say to them? I would say our country should be more fearful of white men across our country. Yeah. Okay, Solomon just found. They say they found $700 million in two years coming out of the Minneapolis airport, right. Going through what, see, 99 times more than JFK, which is the most. Probably one of the most busy international airports in America. But this little Minneapolis, she's worried about white men. How about you look at your. We need perp walks. Hey, Cash Patel. Hey, Pam. Hey. Anyone put some people behind bars so they stop doing this stuff. Start. Well, it looks like Washington Democrat Congresswoman Emily Randall also got the memo. Another in the line of Democrats deflecting about Minnesota fraud. We can trot out all of.

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The data that we want to create.

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The sense that there is a bad.

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Guy, there is a bad group of.

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People. There are folks who are not among.

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Us. There are folks are who or.

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Other. And I think we should spend a lot more time looking at ourselves.

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Looking at American citizens, looking at white men who are committing violence at disproportionate.

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Rates in our country, who are committing.

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Crimes at disproportionate rates in our country. You know, I'm laughing, Mad Dog. Why am I laughing? She said white men again. Are they all did we just repeat, did we put the. Are they saying the same. Blame it on white men. Just blame everything on white guys. White guy walks down the street, there's bank Robbie over there. It's gotta be him. He's a white guy. Anyway. All right folks, we just posted a monster the Edge episode today. Most people will go on their entire lives never realizing why the same names keep winning or why the same institutions, hello, NFL, Major League Baseball keep dominating and why outcomes feel decided before the game even ends. Why? Well, I have a one on one with an espn top level executive is a producer. Major producer is live right now on the Edge. It's a rare look in the mindset of someone who helped build the technology behind modern sports media. The systems that decide what matters and what disappears. In other words, they decide what you see and what you don't. The Edge. No politics, just money. Big money. And we are there ATM with them. So here's what I want you to do. By the way, did you know you can tell exactly where the football is? You don't need a referee or replay booths in New York to do it. They know exactly where it is every single time. But they don't want us to know. You'll find out why. Download episode. Go to that right there, that QR code. Just hit it with your phone, with your camera. It'll yell a line, press it, you'll subscribe or go to YouTube and type in the search box. Eric Bowling the Edge. Both of those need to be there. Eric Bowling the Edge. It'll come up. Subscribe again, why don't you? Part of this. I thank you for your support, your viewership. Rad viewership, bowling viewership. And I really, really, really, really hope you join me over there on the Edge on YouTube. It's a great show, you're gonna love it. We'll be back, two and a half minutes. Alrighty. There it is. Control room in Florida, studio in dc. Mad Dog. Let's do a couple of voicemails. Yes, sir. This is Mike from Michigan says, does anyone check with the sign language.

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Interpreters? Hi, this is Mike from Michigan. I just watched the news conference from Minnesota where had that sign language lady on there did it. Has anybody ever got a sign language reader to see what they're actually saying? Especially with all them tongue thrusts and, and squinting of their face and everything. I mean it seems pretty violent body language, you know, with that, I'd really like to know what they're really saying in the sign language to.

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Ice. Well, let's take A look at that, what he's referencing. Take. Check this out. Remember Jason Fry? Listen, he says get the F out of here, but watch the sign language person. We do not want you here. So I don't know. I think I know what that. That middle finger means, Mike. I'm pretty sure I know what that is. But you know, I was thinking about today. I looked it up. I was at this MAHA meeting, right? And there were two sign language people there. And I was thinking, well, two costs a bunch of money to do this. And is this a requirement? I'm not sure it's a law or not. Don't hate me if you're deaf. I apologize. Don't hate me. There's got to be other technology. But do we really need a sign language person? Because people are deaf. People are deaf. It's like half of 1% of the population. I listen, I hate DEI and I hate woke. I hope it's not part of that. And don't hate me for saying that anyway. I just, you know, I think of like a business mind how we can cut costs everywhere. Mad Dog. Yeah. This viewer has thoughts on accountability on the ICE.

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Shooting. Eric Ethan Crumbley's parents can be charged and convicted of giving their son a gun for his birthday. And he went to commit these murders in the school to kill students. Wouldn't you think that Mayor Jacob Frey should be convicted of involuntary manslaughter and accomplice to murder for inciting these people to go out there and block these ICE agents from doing their job? They're barricading the roads and they can't leave now. How is it he's still here? And Ethan Crumley's parents, they were enemy number one. The prosecutor in the state. They had everyone after them. They had the U.S. marshals, they had the FBI, they had the SWAT. And yet Tim Walls and Jacob Frey get to go scot free and still continue to incite rioting in the city there. They both should be held accountable for that woman being shot in the head. They started it. They asked for. It's a shame that the one had to get shot in the.

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Head. Yeah. You know, even Crumbley's guy in Michigan whose parents gave him a gun and he ended up killing some people. It was, I think it was the first prosecution, successful prosecution of parents. You know, sins of the sun. I really, really not sure about that. You hit me up. Hit me up on social media or. Or on the. On the chats. Rumble and get her chats or rap chats. Because I'M not sure where I feel. I. It's hard for me to square that circle that a parent is going to be held responsible for when. When a child murders. I just can't get to that. I can't get there. But I do think that what Jacob Fry did and what Tim Walls has done is riling up their. Their constituents to the point where there's going to be violence. I think there needs to be an investigation into whether or not there's any link between what this guy said. Maybe got some email to someone, say, let's get a bunch of people over here and do this to the ice. Hit them with snowballs, block them in. And then they would be an accessory. I would say they would be an accessory. You can't call accessory to murder, but involuntary manslaughter, not a bad call. Do we have a short one? Mad Dog checking here. I got a lot just started. We'll cut out of it. Let's start it. We'll cut out of.

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It. Volley. I am calling from West Virginia. I am a Judeo Christian evangelical. Born again Christian. I want you to know you are 1000% right. Keep up your good work. Keep standing for the true American and the Republican party. I am 84 years old. I want to know if the first colonies, was it the.

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First. We'll come out. We'll come out. Yeah. I stand up for what we. We think is right, what we know is right, and what's right is. Yeah. You want to know something? It was. We were founded by Judeo Christian white settlers from. From Europe. And Constitution says that's not who we only have to be. We can be more, but we got to do it legally. Just do it legally. Participate and for God's sake, assimilate to this country. You want to come over here, you better assimilate and start acting like us. Not like what you do in Somalia. You come over here and do it crazily and steal $9 billion. All right, folks, that's it in D.C. i'll be back in West Palm beach tomorrow. Have a great night. Enjoy the war room. Coming up.

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