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Donald Trump
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Donald Trump
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Mike Baker
helps kids with confidence?
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Donald Trump
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Peter Navarro
Gotta love Dave Brown at Real America's Voice, Executive producer extraordinaire. There she is. See what I said? There she is. Because she means business. Whatever the heck that is. Stock market. Let's do this America. Check it out. Nice day in the markets. 375 points higher in a Dow S P up 64. Nice move up in the NASDAQ. 1% plus 261. And it all is predicated on that other number a couple of slots down. Check it out. Oil down $5 a barrel. Actually 519 to be exact after it was up $4 this morning. Early this morning it was trading $104 at one point this morning. And then we got word Scott Besson was on CNBC saying we're going to take care of things in the Gulf. It started to come down and then we heard Trump was going to speak. He put out some ideas and the market is, let's call it, taking a breather, so to speak. So we came from $55 a barrel prior to this conflict, ran it all the way up to 119. Came sitting as the lowest price in, in a couple of days now at 93, $94 a barrel. Be very careful. It's a very skittish energy market. As oil goes up, stocks go down. And as oil goes down like today, stocks go up across the board. Gold down 45. Still holding above 5,000. Crypto had a decent day today. Watch that. And I didn't figure out, can figure out why all of a sudden crypto decided to move up. But Bitcoin hit 90. I'm sorry, 7:40. And slip 74,000 to the, to the Bitcoin. Think about this for one second. 2006, right? 20 years ago, $20,000 in cash equaled 33 ounces of gold at the sprout price at the time. At then those same prices right now, those same 33 ounces would be worth about 165,000 bucks. 33 grand to 165,000 bucks. That's how much your money would have doubled and doubled again over time. So smart Americans diversify a portion of their savings into precious metals. I do. And that's why you need to buy and consider buying gold from our good friends at Birch Gold Group. For thousands of years, really thousands of years, gold has been a store of wealth and value. And today it's a crucial part of any balanced strategy. Even better, the Birch Gold Group. Great folks that can help you convert an existing IRA or 401k into a tax sheltered retirement account in gold. Just text the word America, you know, America to the number 989-898 and receive a free info kit on gold. No obligation, just super useful information. Guess this. They got an A plus rating with a better Business Bureau. They've got tens of thousands of happy customers. Let Birch Gold help you diversify with gold. I use them for my gold purchases. That's peace of mind, folks. Text that word America, 989-898. Again, text America to number 989-898.
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Mike Baker
All righty.
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Peter Navarro
Our next guest is a former CIA covert operations officer, now CEO of Portman Square Group. Also a daily podcast called the President's Daily Brief which everyone should listen to. Happy to have Mike Baker back on the show. Mike, thanks very much, man. Wow. Straight of Hormuz has become, you know, it's really wild. This little, little area, it's only 21 miles wide at its narrowest point. And that little area, that choke point right there, 20% of the world's oil, 30% of its seaborne oil. Mike, what would the, what would the CIA, former CIA operative suggest we do with that part of the world?
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Mike Baker
Well, we probably, honestly, we should have set the table probably prior to the conflict kicking off. And I know it's armchair quarterbacking, but the Iranians, the regime has closed the strait or made efforts to close the strait before. They've been making threats about doing that for decades. And every time they do, there's a, there's an oil shock, there's a hit to the global markets. So we knew this was going to be their only leverage point, right? At the end of the day, they can't go toe to toe with the US And Israeli militaries. So it was fairly clear to anybody who's been watching this part of the world and the Iranian regime's activities over the past almost 50 years that it was going to eventually end up being an issue about the Strait of Hormuz. It's their only button they can push at this point and they don't need to close the place, as we've seen, right? Threats and some targeted attacks on commercial vessels, and suddenly the industry, shipping industry, insurance industries, they all kind of grind to a halt and say, no, we can't do this.
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Peter Navarro
You know, you make a great point. I keep hearing these ideas, oh, we're going to get Lloyds of London to ensure some of these tankers going through. No, no captain worth his salt, so to speak, would bring 300, 200, 300 crew members through that straight and risk their lives. Even if they are insured against the, you know, in the fact they could be blown to smithereens. You know, I don't know if you've seen this, Mike. There's a video put out by the Iranian government of the, their non man, their submersibles that are actually mines, right? And so they don't need to be put into the, into the seabed, you know, on ropes or whatever. They can literally make their way into the seabed. Just that alone is enough of a threat, I would think, to shut this thing down. This whole idea that we're going to escort ships through the oil tankers through the strait, I believe is a fool's bet. Do you?
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Mike Baker
Well, I think it's their only option, really, short of saying that we're going to go in for a major occupation of Iran, which I don't think anybody is up for. But this idea of convoying commercial vessels under the protection of U.S. military assets. You know, you think about this and you think, well, what else is there to do? The problem is, again, fine, that could work for a period of time, but how long are you going to do that for?
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Peter Navarro
Because as you pointed out, I'll give it to you. I've been on band and show for seven or eight days in a row. We put this out. I sent it to the. I sent to the Hegseth and Susie Wiles. They both have it. You put. You put the pressure on around you. You shoot, you step up. And I'm against foreign wars, but you really give it to them. You lay into their infrastructure, not just. Not just, you know, military infrastructure, lay into their roads, their streets, lay into their media facilities, lay into the industries that need. They need until they relent and say, what's your deal? And the deal is this. We help you rebuild your oil infrastructure. But we own the oil. We get the first crack at the oil at market prices. There are 3 million barrels a day. They can do seven or eight. That increase. They've done seven or eight. That increase goes through us first with our oil. Our oil companies are participating at the market price for that. And you do a deal where they can't back out of it ever. And then you never. Here's what you can do. Then you can tell Iranians to pound sand, literally.
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Mike Baker
Yeah, I see what you're saying. And I guess I would say, okay, that's a scenario. But look, there's no upside for the regime and the irgc, which is basically controlling things at this point, right? The clerics, I don't want to say they're figureheads, but they don't. They're not wielding the power. Right. I think they realize at this point that the IRGC is sitting at the top of that little food chain. And so I think there's no upside for the IRGC to give up.
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Donald Trump
Right?
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Mike Baker
And they.
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Peter Navarro
Because, let me just clarify. I'm not suggesting they give up and surrender. I'm saying we'll take the American boot off your neck. Go live your stupid, fanatical Islamic life. We won't get involved because now we have oil security in perpetuity and we don't need to deal with you anymore and go knock yourselves out. I mean, it's. It literally is I sent it to the White House and they think no one can find a problem with that.
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Mike Baker
Well, I think that there is a. I would playing devil's advocate because look, I, I think everything's got to be thrown on the table here at this point. I'm not a fan of the idea of trying to secure militarily this straight because again, Mike, how long are you going.
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Peter Navarro
I'm being so rude to you right now, my brother. We have Trump speaking from the Oval Office. Okay, no worries, my friend. Thank you so much for your time. Mike Baker, chaired by the Vice President.
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Donald Trump
The vice chairman will be the head of the ftc, Andrew Ferguson, who's with
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J.D. Vance
us here as well today.
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Donald Trump
But this is going to launch a whole of government approach to rooting out the very serious problem of fraud in federally funded programs around the country. As an example. You know, you've been seeing it and seeing it pretty big in Minnesota, $19 billion. But that's only for one little aspect of, of the fraud. It's $19 billion. And California, as they say, is 10 times worse than other states are 10. And this is not a Republican Democrat thing. This is wherever it's taking place. It seems that it's usually in blue states. If it's in a red state, we're going there too. But it seems that it's heavily, heavily, heavily Democrat. And what they've done is so, so sad. When you look at the Minnesota scam, a lot of it has to do with Somalia. Nobody's calling out anybody, but a lot of it has to do. But it's Somalia and plenty of others. And I believe the governor is complicit. I believe Ilhan Omar is complicit. I believe that your attorney general is complicit. And if they are, you're going to hopefully find out about it and you're going to be, you're going to have to do what you have to do. If we found half of the fraud that's taking place in this country and I think you have a chance of doing that, we would have much more than a balanced budget. That's the kind of numbers you're talking about. The theft is incredible. And I think JD Will make, and Andrew will make a charge later on that local states should handle nursing homes and all of these things that the federal government shouldn't be involved in. It's too big. The federal government should handle military and a couple of other things. But when it comes to nursing homes, you saw where a young gentleman was going around and knocking on doors and none of the nursing homes existed, none of the nurseries existed. The money that's being paid out, and the federal government pays for it. When you see all these people coming in illegally into our country, many criminals, many drug dealers, murderers, 11,888 murderers. And you look at California and more and more come in, and yet they never had money, and yet they pay them. You know why they pay them? Because the federal government is charged with paying. We're not paying them anymore. And I said that. So these two really smart guys are going to be. I think it's going to. Hopefully it's going to be JD's. This will not be like a Kamala, where she was put in charge of the border and she never went there. J.D. right. You promise?
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J.D. Vance
I promise, sir.
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Donald Trump
Remember, Kamala was put in charge. She was the border czar. She never went to the border. She never called any of the great border Patrol. The Border Patrol testified. We never spoke to her in four years. That was a disaster. But this is different. This is a different group of people. I think maybe before. Jd, I'll ask Stephen Miller say a few words too, please.
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Stephen Miller
Thank you, Mr. President. Well, under President Trump's leadership, as we've seen, the illegal flow across the southern border was stopped completely. But what we found since President Trump came into office is that the Democrats have set up a system to funnel hundreds of billions and ultimately trillions of dollars to migrants that are in our country, oftentimes from places like, so, Somalia. So as an example, ICE recently asked a group of illegal immigrants that were in detention whether or not they were receiving Medicaid. Half of them raised their hands and volunteered that they were on Medicaid, just volunteered that these aren't the ones who were hiding it. Right. They also asked illegal aliens how they paid their medical bills, and they said that if they don't have Medicaid, they go to hospitals, they get free care there, and they bill it to the taxpayers. So they aren't paying for any of their own health care in this country. This is one example, and we've seen this over and over and over again. So under President Trump's leadership, and then of course, with JD and the head of the ftc, Andrew Ferguson, we are going to see the first ever effort in American history to reclaim the ultimately trillions of dollars that were stolen from taxpayers. I believe, and I know President Trump believes that when this theft is exposed, we will see that if all of it were stopped, it would be enough to balance the budget. The extraction of wealth from American Taxpayers to people who don't belong here is the primary cause of the national debt. And this is the first ever effort
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Donald Trump
to shut that down.
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Stephen Miller
Thank you, Mr. President.
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Donald Trump
First ever. And everyone else has been cheating for years. It's the first ever. And it's got to be stopped. I mean, it's got to be stopped. It's. Think of it. Somalia is a third world, maybe a fourth world world nation, one of the worst, one of the most dangerous. They don't have anything. They don't have councils, they don't have government, they don't have police. They shoot each other all over the place. They come here and they steal $19 billion. That's crazy. And Ilhan Omar, I hope this is part of it, but she married her brother supposedly. I mean, there's a lot of documentation that means she's here illegally and she. She's a congresswoman. And I hope you're going to be looking at that or somebody is all right, because she's one of the ringleaders here. She's a. She's bad news. Really bad news. She's so bad for our country anyway. JD Please say a few words.
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J.D. Vance
Yes, sir. Well, thank you, Mr. President. This is a very important whole of government approach to tackle the fraud problem. And let me just tell one story. One of the things that even before this executive order was signed that we were able to stop under the. The President's leadership is we saw evidence that in Minneapolis there were Somalis, primarily illegal immigrants, who were defrauding a Medicaid program that was meant to go to autistic children. So they were taking children who were supposed to get benefits, and they were claiming that their kids were actually autistic even though they weren't. And what did this mean? This meant two things. Number one, you had a lot of people getting rich off of the fraud while American citizens got poorer. And the second thing that it meant is that you had autistic kids in Minneapolis, in suburban Minneapolis who weren't getting benefits they needed because Somali fraudsters were literally stealing out of their pocket. It's got to stop. And unfortunately, that kind of fraud is one example of probably hundreds just within the state of Minneapolis. And then it's repeated and replayed all over the United States of America. When we first started talking about this problem, the President made it very clear he wanted us to take the fraud problem seriously because nobody had until he was president. We started to figure out one big hole that existed, is that the agencies of the government weren't actually talking to each other. So treasury would have evidence of financial fraud but wasn't talking to the Department of Justice about it. Health and Human Services had evidence of Medicaid fraud but wasn't talking to the Department of Treasury about it. So what this executive order does is force the entire apparatus, apparatus of the federal government to do two things. Stop the fraud in the American taxpayer and make sure that the benefits that ought by right go to American citizens. Go to American citizens and not to fraudsters. Andrew Ferguson will be the vice chair and is going to do a great job. If you're curious what's the difference between the vice chair and the chair? The vice chair is going to do all the work and I want to take all the credit. Andrew.
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Andrew Ferguson
Yeah, look, millions and millions, millions of Americans pay into these programs every day and they expect to get something out of it. And this fraud is just siphoning money that millions of Americans pay to fund their hospitals, to fund their daycare centers into completely fake businesses. It isn't just unfair to all of us as taxpayers who pay for all this. It's particularly unfair to the Americans who need this the most and watch this money leave their hospital, leave their school system and go out to fraud. And that is why this effort is so important. And I think we've just begun really looking at this. But I think that one of the things we're going to find is that in a lot of these agencies the previous administration was pretty lax about existing anti fraud controls and we're going to expose that too.
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Donald Trump
I would take the word pretty out. I would change it with unbelievably lax. They weren't, it's not even lax, Laxis Inc. They're dying of worth. The previous administration was fraudulent. Okay. And I think that's what you're going to find also. And you know we work so hard like Most Favored nations drug prices. For years people have wanted we paid the highest drug prices anywhere in the world by far by five times, six times, 10 times more than London would be paying in New York more than any city in Europe would was paying than our cities. We would have a pill that would sell for $10 in Munich, in Germany would sell for $10 and in New York it would be $130 or whatever. And we worked so hard and we pulled it off. It's called most favored nations. So now we went from by far the most expensive drugs anywhere in the world, prescription drugs to the least expensive expensive. And I had to get all the nations to agree. And I don't want to bore you with how I did it, but I did it. Everyone said it was impossible to do, including the drug companies. And we did it and we worked so hard on it. And we're going to save so much money for the people. Your drug prices are going to be dropping at levels never even by 50, 60, 70, 80% in some cases. But you work so hard and then you see them stealing $19 billion. It's like in one pocket, out the other. And I think Andrew and J.D. i think have maybe one of the most important jobs, maybe it could be one of the most important things that we're signing because, because I really believe that they have an opportunity to do something so good for our country. You know, people talk about balancing budgets. You can't balance a budget when people stealing $19 billion and nobody's ever heard of anything like it. We had, I guess, in the same state you went autism, where four or five years ago they spent 1 million and now it's almost 400 million in just a few years. Well, autism didn't go up like that. And even the 1 million was probably a fraud, but it went from 1 million to almost 400 million in just a few years. These are crooked people. They basically said everybody in the state had autism. These are crooked, horrible people. And you know, I was elected on with JD Make America Great Again. And we can't have this stuff happening. We have to be respected. And they left. So I'm going to sign this. We'll take some questions, but let me sign this first before I, I, I don't forget, let's see before I decide not to. Okay, I don't forget not to, but maybe I'll decide not to. I would decide not to. If I didn't think they could do the job, I would decide not to, but that'll be a terrible thing. I think they're going to find numbers, Andrew. I think you're going to find numbers that are far higher than you even think. And you, you know, Andrew came to us, he said, sir, he's read the stories about Minnesota. We know California is many times worse, but Minnesota is terrible. They're all terrible. Those cities are terrible. New York is terrible. What's going on in Chicago, Illinois, with that slob of a governor is terrible. And the kind of money we're talking about is just country changing. It's country changing money. It's having a deficit to having a really profitable country where you can lower your taxes substantially for people. And I think that's, I think you have an opportunity to do And I think you two guys are the right guy. If you guys can't do it, got a problem because nobody else will be able to do it. Yes, sir. So I'll sign and then. And we'll take some nice questions from our wonderful media. Okay, Here you go. Very important. That's a big deal. We've been working on this very long. Andrew, do you have a question?
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Reporter Phil
Yes, Mr. President. You said during your state of the. That this type of fraud, the corruption is the type of thing that can shred the fabric of a nation. Why do you suppose that the leaders in recent memory haven't looked at the systemic amount of fraud?
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Donald Trump
Because they're crooked. And because they're crooked, they make money, they gain power. They use it for power. Like with the Somalians. They vote in a block 100%. They make a deal with the Somalians. They all vote because they're on a gravy train. It's. It's coming. It's. It's money first, power second. A lot of people say power first. Now it's money first, power second. Do you ever see where, like Mercedes people come over, it's from Somalia. They have no money and now they're buying Mercedes Benz cars. Okay. It's more cash goes out of the Minnesota airport than any other place in the world or so we're going to find it. And Minnesota is really bad. The governor is corrupt. The attorney general is totally corrupt, just like the New York state Attorney general, Letitia James, she's a highly corrupt person. Bragg, the DA is a corrupt person. They're all corrupt. These are corrupt people. And we got too many of them in our country. And we have to expose them and we have to catch them. And if these two guys can't. These are high IQ people. I like high. I've always liked high iq. These are high IQ people. If they don't do it, we're going to go a long way, fellas, to find somebody else that's going to. We have no choice if honestly. And they may not do a good job if they don't do a good job.
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J.D. Vance
Thank you, sir.
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Donald Trump
It's possible. If they don't do a good job, the country is sort of in trouble. Yes, go ahead. Thank you, sir. Two questions for the. And I think they're going to do a great job. Go ahead.
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Reporter Phil
First, Mr. Vice President, Democrats are already calling you the Fraud Czar. What's your reaction to that title?
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Donald Trump
And then second. Good title second.
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Reporter Phil
Given past skepticism, foreign adventurism. Are you completely on board with the Current war in Iran.
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J.D. Vance
So I like fraud Czar. It's certainly what we're going to do. And look, we have to do it. As the President said, this is a problem that has festered in this country for far too long and far too few people have actually wanted to do anything about it. That's what makes this administration different, is that we actually tackle the problems the American people have been confronting. So I'm very happy about it. And look, I think that I know what you trying to do, Phil. You're trying to drive a wedge between members of the administration, between me and the president. What the President said consistently going back to 2015, and I agreed with him, is that Iran should not have a nuclear weapon. We have taken this military action under the President's leadership. I think all of us, whether you're a Democrat or Republican, should pray for success and pray for the safety of our troops. That's the approach that I've taken. Make it as successful as possible.
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Reporter Phil
So there's no hesitation, given your past statements, with the current operation.
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J.D. Vance
What do you mean, there's no hesitation with my past statements?
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Reporter Phil
Given your skepticism of foreign countries.
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Donald Trump
You were a critic of the global
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Reporter Phil
war on terror previously.
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J.D. Vance
Well, I think one big difference, Phil, is that we have a smart president, whereas in the past we've had dumb presidents. And I trust President Trump to get the job done, to do a good job for the American people and to make sure that the mistakes of the past aren't repeated. Absolutely.
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Donald Trump
Thanks, sir. Look, JD has been great, but here's the simple thing. And I have, you know, some people, I don't want wars. I want wars less than almost anybody. Peace through strength. But you know what? I've watched Iran for a long time. I've called them out 20 years ago, when I was a civilian that liked watching the world. And they're violent, vicious people. The leadership. Violent, vicious people. They killed 32,000 protesters over the last three weeks. They put out a memo two days ago saying, if you protest, we will shoot you and kill you in the streets. And somebody said, oh, there's not that many protests. Well, first of all, there are bombs going off all over the place. But even if there weren't, who's going to do that? You know who's going to do. They don't have any guns. And the other ones have latest in line, machine gun. Right. And every form of gun you can have, they shoot them right through the middle of the head. They're violent people. If they had a nuclear weapon, they would use it. And sometimes I'll have some of the people that you know, feel very strongly like I do about wars. And I say, do you think Iran is violent and do you think their people are violent? Yes, leadership. Do you think they should have a nuclear weapon which is massive power? I don't even want to discuss how powerful because it's depressing. And they said, no, they shouldn't have. Definitely they shouldn't have. They said, and you don't want to fight war? No, no, we don't want to fight war. So these are naive people that frankly are stupid. If you believe that Iran should have a nuclear weapon, there's something wrong with you. Because they would use it within. The only question is within one hour if they get it or one day they will use it and they will blow up the entire Middle east, not just Israel. They'll start with Israel, but they will blow up. And you got to see that when they unexpectedly started sending missiles to every country within 1,000 miles of them. I mean, they're blowing up countries that were neighbors, not necessarily some friends. They actually have blowing up some friends. They were blowing up the people that handle their accounts. They're sending thousands of missiles into countries that didn't expect to be in the war because they wanted to take over the Middle East. And if I didn't terminate Barack Hussein Obama's horrible Iran nuclear deal, which I did in my first term, one of the dumbest deals, perhaps in dumbest deal, because of the danger involved, you would have had them have a nuclear weapon three years ago, maybe four years ago, they would have used it, blown up the Middle east and they would have then come after us. And if these gorgeous B2 bombers. Give me that bomber. Andrews. Let me just hug that little sucker. Give me that bomber over there. Thank you. Knew immediately which one. This looks small, but in person it's very big because it's the only plane capable of carrying a 200,000 pound bomb. So I don't know how they do it because it's very sleek and nice, but it carries a lot of weapons and there's a lot of bombs. But had inot sent this incredible machine times numerous others to hit Iran at midnight with no moon dead dark. Every single bomb was dropped right down the chute that it was supposed to hit. How they do it, who knows? Nobody else can figure it. No other country can do it. No other country has our military or even close. And I think we've probably proven that with Venezuela and now with. Because we have done a number in Iran. But if I didn't do that. If I didn't decimate, I call it their nuclear dust. They would have had a nuclear weapon within one month after that bombing took place. And they would have used it on first Israel and then the Middle East. And you know that because all of those missiles that were launched against their neighbors were set long ago, long before they knew they would be using them this quickly. Had we not done this, you would have had a nuclear war that would have evolved into World War Three. And more important, this is a war that there would have been nothing left. So we've done a great thing. The people that say it's okay for a very sick ideology, a very sick country in terms of its leadership, very good people, great people. But the people that say that, I think they're actually, they're either evil or they're so stupid. So if you believe that Iran should not have a nuclear weapon, they should not have it, then you have to absolutely love what I've done. Because in two weeks we have decimated them. They have no navy, they have no air force, they have no anti aircraft weapons. They have no leadership. The leadership is gone. But then they set up a new leadership to go and name a new leader and that's to going leadership is gone. And now they think maybe the sun is gone. They're all gone. My biggest problem is I have no idea who we're talking to because nobody ever heard of any of these people. They're all dead. But we did a job for the world. Not a job for us, for the whole world. We took the worst country in 50 years and maybe longer from the ideological standpoint. A country that wanted to blow up the the world. A country that is sick, sick. And it has a religious fervor. And when you add religion, you know, people don't realize. More people died in religious wars than every other war put together. And that's what you would have had here. And it was a terrible thing. I'm very proud of what we did and I think JD understands better than most. If you give Iran a nuclear weapon, at least a very substantial part of the world would be blown up. And it will be used almost immediately. Yes. Thank you, Mr. President. You don't mind if I keep this here, do you? Isn't that a beautiful thing? You know, I used to look at it and I said, it's a piece of art. But how can it be effective? It's so stealth. Think of it, Peter. One in the morning, it flies in and they say, sir, they're in Iranian Airspace, space. And I say, oh, And I'm watching it from the Situation Room with a couple of other very smart people, including some good generals, real generals, not television generals. And all of a sudden you see that dive. They start diving and sure. And you see them 30,000, 20,000. Boy, I said that was a lot. They went down fast to aim it. And they know they're coming and they're smart and they never saw them. And they're firing a little bit, but they don't know what they're firing at because they can't see a thing. And then you hear the biggest explosions that anybody has ever heard. Those are the biggest bombs outside of nuclear. Those are the biggest bombs. And you say, what technology we have. What a great country. I built it largely. I built it during my first term. I built it. I didn't know I'd have to use it this much in my second term. But we had an incompetent president, we had an incompetent administration. And if that group of people, in any form, whether it's Kamala, him, it doesn't matter, would have had another four years. We would have had no country left. Yeah. Please. Thank you, Mr. President. You say you're doing a job for the rest of the world. And your conversations with your counterparts, are they thanking you? What are their conversations? It's just like when you talk about this military conflict that's taking place in Iran. Well, they should be thanking me because many of them get 90%. China, as an example, should be thanking us, but I don't expect to thank you, but they should be thanking us. Japan gets 95%. China 91%. Many of the countries, South Korea gets a tremendous percentage of their oil and their. Therefore their energy from the straits and or as they call it, the strait. And they should be not only thanking us, they should be helping us. What does surprise me is that they're not eager to help. There are a couple. We'll be announcing some names. There are some that really were right up front. I would announce their name now, other than I, you know, maybe they prefer it not be a announced for whatever reason. I will say this. It's a lot easier to get people today than it was two weeks ago. Two weeks ago, before we destroyed there, before you obliterated the country, before we took out. Because they're down to about 8% of their missiles. They're down to a small portion of their drones. And we've demolished many of their factories where they make the missiles and the drones and the rest are all following our military has been amazing. We hit Carg island, took out every single thing in Carc island except one thing. We left the pipes. Because if we take out the pipes, it takes a long time to build them. And at some point, something is going to happen that's positive with respect to those pipes. But there are some countries that greatly disappointed me, and, you know, I'm the one that got them to pay from 2% to 5% of GDP. NATO and I get along great with those countries in NATO, but I always said, you know, the problem with NATO is we'll always be there for them, but they'll never be there for us. And when I hear the uk, which we sort of considered the Rolls Royce of allies, right, Wouldn't you say they were the oldest and they were going to be there. And I say it would be really helpful if you'd send over a couple of ships and if you have some minesweepers, which they do, be very helpful. And the Prime Minister is a nice man. I think he's a very nice guy. He says, well, I'd like to ask my team. I said, you don't have to worry about a team. You don't have a team. You're the Prime Minister. You can make a decision. Well, I have to speak to my people. I said, you don't have to speak to anybody. So it's very disappointing. And then after we obliterated them and destroyed their military, the whole thing, and it became a much safer zone, he said, we're going to send over two aircraft carriers. I said, I don't want them anymore. I don't want them after we win. I want them before we start. I don't need your aircraft carriers after we've already won. So, you know, those things are very disappointing. And you have to Remember, we have 45,000 troops in Japan. We have 45,000 troops in South Korea. We have 45,000 50,000 troops in Germany. We defend all these countries. And then, do you have any minesweepers? And they say, well, would it be possible for us not to get involved? I've been saying it for a long time. This is the greatest thing to come out of this. We spend trillions and trillions of dollars on NATO to defend other countries. And I always said, but if it ever comes time to defend us, they're not going to be there. Many of them would not be there. And we're going to have to start thinking more wisely in this country. Some have been very good. One or two have been great. I'll tell you, the great ones are at the right time, but there have been some that were right up there, Peter. They were right up there. They wanted to do it so much. Go ahead, Peter.
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Peter Navarro
Thank you.
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Reporter Peter
You were talking about her, Iran a couple times today and what they did after epic fury began. He said they hit Qatar, Saudi Arabia, uae, Bahrain, Kuwait. Nobody expected that. We were shocked. Are you surprised that nobody briefed you ahead of time, that that might be their retaliation?
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Donald Trump
Nobody? Nobody. No, no, no, no. The greatest experts. Nobody thought they were going to hit. They were, I wouldn't say friendly countries. They were like neutral. They were. They lived with them for years, Peter. They were going to take over the Middle East. They were going to knock out Israel with their nuclear weapon. But after we knocked out their nuclear potential. Their nuclear potential weapon, they started building missiles, thousands and thousands of missiles. And they were going to do it with missiles while they developed. These are sick people. While they developed nuclear. Somehow they were going to start at a different site because that site was, you saw the site, the mountain. They were going to go into a certain area which we know exactly where it is, and they were going to do that. And it's incredible what we've done. I tell you the job we've done. Do you know, if I didn't terminate Barack Hussein Obama's Iran nuclear deal, you would right now? Well, Israel would be gone. It would be incinerated and probably the Middle east likewise. And remember, they got all of those missiles and I heard they were sending missiles to uae. I said, that's strange. You know, UAE is like the banker for, for Iran, they're like the banker. Qatar, their neighbors, they got along okay. Saudi Arabia, all of a sudden, Kuwait, Kuwait is getting hit. Bahrain is getting. All these countries are getting hit. There was no expert that would say that was going to happen. It's not a question of like, gee, should you have known? And if we did known, big deal. I mean, we have to do what we have to do. But we hit them so hard like nobody has ever been hit. We hit them very hard. And we've extinguished most of their missiles. We've extinguished most of their drones. We've extinguished most of the places where the missiles and the drones are built. We've fully extinguished two layers of leadership and probably a third, if you believe some stories. So we only have one thing to have a little choke point. And they've used it very well for years, but it doesn't work. But I think this. If some of these countries that we've been good to for years. And maybe more important than that, some of these countries that get 90% and 95% of their energy from Hormuz, the Strait Hormuz, a famous, wonderful, beautiful place. But you wouldn't want to be necessarily sailing a boat there right now.
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J.D. Vance
I would not.
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Donald Trump
You know why not? Because of them, because of us. Because we've taken out their entire navy. We've taken out every one of their drone, they call it a drone layer, a, A mine layer. There's specific boats that are meant to put mines on. How would you like to have a Nation that has 22 boats where their sole function. They're very different looking boats. You wouldn't want one for your family. They're not pretty. Their sole function is to lift a mine into the water and drop it a certain number of feet down. But they had 22 of them. We've taken out all of them. But you can probably, probably, you can probably drop them off on the boats. So we don't even know, by the way, we don't know that any mines have even been dropped. But the thought that they would scares people that have billion dollar ships. Yeah, please.
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J.D. Vance
Thank you.
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Donald Trump
President Trump, I'd like to ask the
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Reporter Phil
Vice President that his friends go after possible fraud in California, New York, New. Of course, Minnesota. And President Trump, first. Could I ask you, you said earlier today that the new Supreme Leader, Ottawa, Khomeini, you don't know if he's dead or alive. There are a couple interesting reports about him today. There's one report that he just narrowly escaped death in the first airstrikes by stepping out into his garden. There's another report that he may actually be gay, despite meeting the theocracy that hangs gay people.
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J.D. Vance
How do you determine what's true and do you have an assessment of this?
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Donald Trump
Well, so far nobody knows. If you look at his father, he used to give talks a lot, you know, talking about death to America. He'd say death to America all the time. When they say death to America, you should believe them because that's what they would have. If they had a nuclear weapon, they would have used it. But they never had the chance. I never gave them the chance to use it. And other presidents should have done. I spoke to one of the former presidents who I actually like, actually speak to some, I do like some people, be shocking. And he said, I wish I did what you did, could have done it. Other presidents, somebody should have done it. 47 years this went on. They call Iran the bully of the Middle east and you could have never had the Abraham Accords, you could never have had peace in the Middle East. Now you're going to have peace. You could never do it with the dark cloud of a nuclear Iran. But Iran is a shell of itself. It's no longer a bully. It's the one that gets bullied. It's a bully that got beat up. We beat the crap out of them and they deserve that. You know when you see a soldier walking down the street without his arms or being helped down the street because he's got no legs, or his face is blown to smithereens with no legs and no arms? Those two, no legs, no arms and a face that got wrecked, that was done by roadside bombs. That's the favorite weapon of Soleimani, who I killed in my first administration, General Soleimani. Had I not killed him, that was the beginning of their downfall. Because had he not gone, it's possible that we would not be this far advanced in destroying Iran. Because he was a really good general. He was a vicious, horrible man, but he was a brilliant general. And he was looking to knock out 5 of our military bases at one time. And the man that killed, that died with him was the same, his counterpart in Iraq. And they were working together and they got hit real hard. And if that didn't happen, we would have had a problem. But maybe more importantly than that, they were. He was really the mastermind behind it. And they never found somebody to replace him in terms of. Of the genius and knocked him out. And that was a big step, knocking him out. But if we didn't get rid of the Obama deal, I terminated it against the wishes of my then Secretary of State. He was Nomarco. Against the wishes of a lot of people at the time. You remember that, Peter? A lot of people had I not terminated. Remember that, Stephen? You remember, they were not. This is not. That deal was a disaster. That was a road to a nuclear weapon. They would have had it three years ago and it would have been. It would have been used, I would say, two to three years ago, and it would have been used in the Middle East. And by the way, after they were finished, that they were coming over here. They never got a chance to do it.
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Reporter Peter
I just want to ask you about something very interesting that you said, said twice today that you talked to another former president about the Iran strikes. Was it George W. Bush?
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Donald Trump
No.
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Reporter Peter
Was it Bill Clinton?
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Donald Trump
I don't want to say. I don't want to say because Barack Obama, a member of a party, A member of a party. They have Trump Derangements in Omaha. But it's somebody that happens to like me. And I like that person who's a smart person, but that person said, I wish I did it, okay, but I don't want to get into who. I don't want to get him into trouble. Maybe, hey, you know what? I think you probably know. You know, it's interesting and maybe he'd be proud and I could even ask him that. Would you like me to reveal your name to Peter at Fox? Well, at least you have high ratings. Your ratings are through the roof, Peter. Congratulations.
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Reporter Peter
Thank you for noticing.
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Donald Trump
Congratulations.
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Reporter Peter
Can I ask you another question? If Iran, as you said, totally obliterated, got the missiles, got the first two rounds of leadership. Air Force gone, Navy gone. Can we wrap this war up this week?
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Donald Trump
Yeah, sure.
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Reporter Peter
Will we?
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Donald Trump
I don't think so, but it'll be soon. Won't be long. And we're going to have a much safer world when it's wrapped up. It'll be wrapped up soon. We're going to have a much safer world. I had an obligation to do this. I didn't want to. I go to an excursion. I don't want to make this journey. We had the highest stock market in history. We had low gas prices. Everything was good. And I know exactly. I know what you know. You're going to do it. People are going to raise the price of oil. But, but I know that. But that's a very small, small thing compared to allowing them to have. You want to see a stock market go down, start letting them hit you with nukes. Okay, I think I said it this morning. I think it's a very small price to pay. And frankly, I thought it was going to go down much more, if you want to know. I assume that it was going to go down much more only because people don't understand. To a large. It's a great. It's a big chess game at a very high level. It's very high level chess. The highest. And I'm dealing with very smart players. These are smart people. They don't get there. You know, when you deal with some of these people, you're dealing with high level intellect, high, very high IQ people. These are not Jasmine Crockett and her group. These are smart people. These are really smart people and violent people and vicious people and some very nice people. And some are very nice, but violent. They turn violent. But you know what? If I didn't do. If I didn't do what I did, we would have been hit number one. Very important was the termination of Obama's horrible deal. And number two, this beautiful plane hitting them eight months ago, whatever it was, and taking out their nuclear capacity, that. That totally threw them for a loop. If they had that bomb at either time five years ago or seven months ago, if they had that bomb, that bomb would have been used almost immediately. Mr. President, two questions on domestic policy. Bringing it close to home. First of all, the Save America Act. What are you expecting this week when this vote takes place in the U.S. senate? Will the vice president. I think it's imperative that it gets done. I'm not sure it is. You know, the Democrats have horrible policy. It's just incredible. But they stick together. It's the one thing they do. Their Supreme Court members stick together. Those appointed by a Democrat stick together. If Barack Hussein Obama appoints a member of this Supreme Court, that member never goes against him and they're proud about it. They say, I don't give a damn if it's good or bad. That man appointed me, and I'm never going to let him down. I don't say that's right, wrong. I just say they stick together. Republicans go the opposite way. If Donald Trump appointed me, I'm going to show the world that I can be totally just and I can be independent of Donald Trump. He's not controlling me, and I don't want to control them. I just want to have smart decisions. They gave us a decision on tariffs the other day that won't change tariffs. I can do it a different way. I always knew I could do it a different way. This was a little quicker, a little easier, a little better. But they gave it to a decision that could cost this country $500 billion to pay people back. Because now I have to start the tariffs all over again. Very simple. And what happens with the money I've already collected? Why didn't they say, starting from now, go the other way? $500 billion perhaps. It's so sad. But you. One thing about the Democrats, they stick together. Like Lou, they impeached me twice for absolutely no reason, unanimously. Fortunately, the Republicans stuck together. And it was something. It was pretty wild. But the Democrats have horrible policy. Transgender for everybody, open borders, men playing in women's sports. But the one thing they do have is they stick together. No matter how bad the policy. It's embarrassing to watch them try to defend it. And in a way, I say, as a Republican, I would. In a way, I say, thank goodness they have bad policy because you'd never beat them. We have something in there now. The Save America Act. Voter ID with a picture, right? That's a 99% issue, even among Democrats. You know, Democrats poll at 89% on that. And then they have proof of citizenship, and then they have no mail in ballots. No mail in ballots. We have no mail in. You go to California, they send out like 38 million ballots. Some Democrats get seven, eight ballots. Republicans are a lot of times calling in, where's my ballot? Where's my ballot? They're lucky to get one. Jimmy Carter, probably the greatest thing he ever did. I thought he was a nice man. Not a great president, to put it mildly. How did his attack work out in Iran? Not too good. I think ours is slightly better, wouldn't you say? But Jimmy Carter, the one thing he did after he left with Scoop Jackson and some others, they formed a very elite council committee that came out and said very strongly, no mail in ballots. Because if you have. We're the only country in the world that has mail in ballots like we do. The only country in the whole world. People have tried it. France tried it, and they went away. They're now doing paper ballots, watermark paper, which very hard to cheat. So when you look at what happens with this country, we really have to fix it. That'll be very polite, popular. The other thing we put in there, just as best of. I call it the best of Trump. We have the three things I just said, right? But then I added on no men playing in women's sports. And I added in no transgender surgery. The mutilation of our children. We have no mutilation of our children. No transgender. I think they're. And they say that's an 80% issue. I think they're 99% issues. But whether they're 80% or 99, the problem is we have a couple of Republicans. They shouldn't be allowed. They're horrible people and they're willing to vote against anything. And we have all the Democrats who vote against it. So I think it hurts the Democrats to vote against it, because I'm going to instruct all the Republicans to say that so and so that they're running against, voted against the saving of our children from transgender mutilation. Right? That's pretty unpopular. They want men and women sports. That's pretty unpopular. They want voter id, but the Democrats don't. Everybody wants voter id. Everybody wants proof of stuff, citizenship. And most people don't want mail in voting because they know it's a fraud. Touches too many hands. I mean, if the postman gets it, this one gets it. That one gets it. So these are all issues that are in the 90s to 100, I would say some are virtually 100%. And the interesting thing is they're that way not only with the Republic. I'm not talking about leadership. I'm talking about. They're that way also, most importantly, with the people. The people of our country want voter id. The people of our country want proof of citizenship, and that includes 88%, 89% of Democrats and I think the Republicans. Eric Schmidt, Rick Scott, Tim Scott, I speak to so many of them. They all want it. I hope John Bethune can get it across the line. He's trying. I mean, he told me this morning. I spoke to him. He's trying. I think it'll be a very, very bad thing for our country if they don't. We're just asking for basic things. Think of it. You can't have voter id. Do you know in California, if you ask a person to show their identification, they have the right to put you in jail? If you're an official and you say, may I please see your identification, you're subject to going to jail. That's how crazy it's gotten with a low IQ person, you know, because Gavin Newscomb has admitted that he is a. That he has learning disabilities. Honestly, I'm all for people with learning disabilities, but not for my president. I don't want. I think a president should not have learning disabilities. Okay? And I know it's highly controversial to say such a horrible thing. The President of the United States, Gavin Newscomb, admitted that he has learning disabilities, dyslexia, everything about him is dumb. But then he looked at the audience and said, but I'm smarter than you, or something like that. That was pretty silly. So now, on top of everything else, they call him a racist because it happened to be a black audience. I will tell you this. I think it was the worst interview I've ever seen of any human being in my life. Okay, anybody else have any questions?
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Mike Baker
Mr. President, on Iran, will it be
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Donald Trump
necessary to use even a limited ground
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J.D. Vance
force to secure whatever nuclear material remains in Iran as part of that threat?
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Donald Trump
And secondly, have you made a decision? You mean to go in and get it? Yes, sir. Why would I tell you a thing like that? And second, you know, I can't say, sir, will you attack Cargill Island? Will you occupy Car. They asked me these questions, and I don't want to be mean, but they're stupid questions. If any. If any president answered those questions, they shouldn't be president. And secondly, sir, do you still plan
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J.D. Vance
to travel to Beijing at the end of this?
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Donald Trump
I don't know. We're working on that. Right now, we're speaking to China. I'd love to, but because of the war, I want to be here. I have to be here. I feel. And so we've requested that we delay it a month or so. And I'm looking forward to being with them. We have a very good relationship. But because of the war, there's no tricks to it either. It's just. It's not like, oh, gee, I'm waiting. It's very simple. We got a war going on. I think it's important that I be here. So it could be that we delay a little bit. Not much.
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Reporter Peter
Peter, when you say Cuba is next. Cuba is Cuba. Whatever you do with the military there,
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Donald Trump
it seems like something.
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Reporter Peter
Will that look more like Iran or Venezuela?
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Donald Trump
Can't tell you that. I can tell you that they're talking to us. It's a failed nation. They have no money, they have no oil, they have no nothing. They have nice land, they have nice landscape. You know, it's a beautiful island. I think they have great people. You know, I know so many people from Cuba that were treated terribly, and they were over here and they became rich. They're very entrepreneurial people, very smart, and a lot from Florida especially. There's so, so many people. A friend of mine started over with nothing. He's now the largest owner of gas stations in the country and stuff. I mean, Cuban. I also know. I was just with a fantastic person who's Cuban and made a fortune in sugar, you know, Van Huel family, right? And this family wants to go back to Cuba to visit it. They wanted. They haven't been back in like 50 years or something. They come from. Largely come from Cuba and we'll see what happens. They were asking me about that. They want to go back. Not only Fanjul, a lot of Cubans have said, oh, boy, would they love to go back. I think Cuba is in its own way, if, you know, tourism and everything else. It's a beautiful island, great weather. They're not in a hurricane zone, which is nice for a change. You know, they won't be asking us for money for hurricanes. They're every week. But I think Cuba sees the end. You know, all my life I've been hearing about the United States and Cuba. When will the United States do it? I do believe I'll be the honor of having the honor of taking Cuba. That'd be a good honor. That's a big honor.
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Peter Navarro
Taking Cuba.
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Donald Trump
Taking Cuba in some form. Yeah, taking Cuba. I mean, whether I free it, take it. I think I could do anything I want with it. You want to know the truth? They're a very weakened nation right now. They were for a long time very violent. Very violent leaders. Castro was a very violent leader. His brother is a very violent leader. Extremely violent. That's how they governed. They governed with violence. But a lot of people would like to go back. Okay, one more question.
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Reporter Phil
Quick question on fraud for Vice President Vance. Mr. Vice President, you announced a couple of weeks ago in the EEOB that the administration will be halting Medicaid payments to Minnesota until the state decided to take pervasive steps to root out fraud. Do you have an update to that specific situation? Do you think that that could be a model moving forward for the task force for states that won't cooperate?
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J.D. Vance
So I don't have an update there. Dr. Oz is looking to try to work with the authorities in Minnesota to try to figure out. Figure that situation out. But, yeah, I think there are two obvious tools that we have to stop the fraud that's happening against the American people. One is that when we see evidence of fraud, we stop the payments. Pretty simple, right? We know that the American people are being defrauded. Let's try to stop the payments and ensure that whoever is making these payments is actually complying with some basic due diligence and making sure the payments are going to the right place. I think the second tool, of course we have, as the President mentioned, is we have law enforcement options. We know that some of this fraud is just bad, some of it's criminal. We know that people are intentionally trying to defraud the American people. It's not just in Minnesota. It's all across the country.
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Donald Trump
99% is criminal.
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J.D. Vance
Yes, sir. So this is one of the reasons why DOJ is such an important part of this is because we have to make sure that where we see criminal conduct, we actually prosecute it. And the President has talked about this a lot in the past. I don't need to repeat it. But it's worth noting that so many times when we find people engaged in really, really bad conduct, you know, the. The.
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Donald Trump
Come on. No, it's just a golf lesson, champ. Loosen up. I can't see that. Hyundai Santa Fe. Yeah, I only paid. Finish up on your own. I gotta run. Deal.
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Peter Navarro
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