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Well, and I was taking care of the people who lost 3,000 lives. And now you're being World Trade Center. Today you asked me. I have Howard Epstein survivors. I'm a survivor myself. You have emails. You've denied that Jeffrey Epstein, that you tried to get Jeffrey Epstein to give money to you. I did not. Howard Lutnick was. You have an email with me asking Jeffrey Epstein for money from Howard Lutnick, sending it to Jeffrey Epstein and his people. I don't know about an event, an intimate event for you at his office at Canter Fitzgerald. If you let me obfuscate and say to this committee, you didn't try to get money from Jeffrey Epstein. There was an intimate. So I really hear much of that. I couldn't really understand him, but I loved it. I gotta say, I loved it. I'll start with you. Let me start with you, George. This time were your thoughts on Hillary's testimony there? We have a lot more coming, but go ahead on this one. Yeah, look, I mean, this is a, this has been her modus operandi for years regarding her relationship with Jeffrey Epstein and various other unsavory and corrupt characters. And deflect, deflect, deflect and put the attention on third parties and people that had nothing to do with the current situation. We've seen this from Benghazi to Epstein. It continues on and on. This fiasco finally reached its culmination with the GOP actually holding her in the deposition. And it really achieved nothing more than more deflection. And unfortunately, due to that Infamous picture situation. She stormed out of the room. We didn't get the answers that we expected. And. And unfortunately, it looks like this situation is now going to be thrown underneath a dustbin of history unless the Republicans continue to turn up the heat, which we don't know if they will or not. Yeah. Well, let's do this one. Joe, you take this one. Hillary was asked if she was concerned that her hubby president at the time, Bill Clinton, or maybe it was just after him being president, was getting massaged by very young women. Watch. When you saw your husband in these photos with a young woman being massaged, what went through your mind? I am not going to speculate. After you learned that Jeffrey Epstein was convicted of sex crimes, sex crimes with kids, any of these photos of your husband with women being massaged on the beach, did it concern you? I have no context for even answering that question. And I think, you know, obviously, the innuendo, all the rest of it. I'm asking a black and white question. I'm not putting any leading statements into it or adjectives. Did you do anything to determine what was happening in those images or on those trips that you. Once you saw these photos, once you realized Jeffrey Epstein was a convicted sex offender of children, did you do anything to determine what was happening on these trips with your husband? I don't find any of your questions to be relevant to the investigation. If a former president was traveling around with young women, you'll have a chance, you'll have a chance to talk to him tomorrow. I mean, were we expecting anything more than what we got from Hillary there, Joe? No, of course not. Prevarication. She's a liar. She's. But most important, she's arrogant, totally arrogant. And she's very, very good at handling the committee, at deflecting questions. She's superb. The justice system had a chance to deal with her when she destroyed subpoenaeds records, and it didn't deal with her. They had a chance to deal with her when her Clinton foundation was shaking down foreign governments and corporations, when her husband was traveling overseas while she was Secretary of state raising, getting paid $500,000 per speech and nary a whimper from the Barack Obama administration, which found itself, which called itself so elegant with regard to ethics. Look, the Clintons are sleazeballs. This, I'll say about Bill. Bill, in his frail days, is still charming. He's obviously out of breath. He can barely function. Looks like he's in deep trouble. His hands are shaking. So there. It's the onset of some Things very sad to see, you know. You know, if you had to choose, obviously you'd want to spend time with him and not her. No question about it. All right, let's move on, gentlemen, to Bill Clinton's testimony. Epstein visited the White house, get this, 17 times between 93 and 95. 17. Bill Clinton says he never knew when Epstein was coming or what he was coming about. In fact, wait, hold on. Before you roll that. I'm pretty darn sure we had Alan Dershowitz on here saying that Bill Clinton didn't even really know Jeffrey Epstein that well. Certainly made a lot of excuses for Bill Clinton. Let's. Let's hear what Bill answers this. Do you know what the nature of Mr. Epstein's visits to the White House were? Are you asking what he knew in preparation for today? Can you clarify what you are seeking to learn? First of all, at the time, I had no idea he was coming and going. Huge numbers of people come and go in the White House. A lot of them come well over once, especially if they're lobbyists, for example, But I didn't know he was coming, so I certainly didn't know what he was coming about. Let me go back to Joe on this, only because I noticed the lawyer jumped in real quick to give him a little bit of a, hey, by the way, talk about what you knew in preparation for Tay. He was ready to answer in the big, bigger picture, but she really drilled him into stick to what this is all about right now. Right, Joe? Yeah, she. She knows she has a talkative client who enjoys this, actually enjoys this situation, unlike other people, because he likes the limelight. But also, you can also see during that. That deposition how frail he has become. And I think he had a tough time answering questions, even though he can talk and exchange. I think you're seeing the decomposition of a once, once very, very interesting individual into a sad state. So let's do this, guys. Jump down one, because I think we just hit this one. Let me with George. Bill Clinton was asked if he thought Epstein was suicidal. Watch. Do you believe that Jeffrey Epstein was suicidal? Do you know? Was he ever suicidal? I don't know. I only know what the medical finding was. I think maybe he finally got caught. And I don't know. I think I've accepted it in my own mind. I don't know what happened. Mr. President, what did you accept? That he killed himself or that he did? Not that he did, but I don't know. Yes, sir. Thank you. Neither do you. We don't. None of us know Harkens back to it depends what the definition of is is when you remember when he was lying about that as well. What about it, George? I mean, it just goes to show you that we didn't get the answers that millions of Americans expected. We just had a former president in a very fragile state demurring and prevaricating and evading important questions and basically saying, I have no idea what you're talking about. And other people were responsible for him entering the White House. I didn't know what he was up to, even though we saw him Jacuzzis and on Epstein Island 100 billion times. So there's no surprise here. But what I think Congress should really now focus on if this was the end all of the Epstein deposition, Benghazi, Russiagate, Clinton foundation corruption. These are all issues which we really don't have conclusions on. And so many people have been expecting answers to those scandals as well as this. So if this is the be all end all of the Epstein situation, we have to go back and find out how corrupt and how involved the Clintons, Bill and Hillary in those other scandals too. Eric. Yeah, no doubt. No question about that. Ghislaine. Ghislaine, I don't know. Ghislaine Maxwell, was it their daughter Chelsea Clinton's wedding? Bill Clinton was asked, how many times did Maxwell visit the Clinton Home Watch. Okay. How many times did Lily Maxwell visit your home in Chapel Frog? I have no idea. Who invited her? Well, I don't know. I don't know how she may have been. Mr. President. That's it. Okay. Hillary had political events there. Okay. So is it in your. Is it to your knowledge, was that. Was she at your home in Chappaqua, likely because your wife had her over for Senate events? That's what you testified earlier today, correct? That's not what he testified. But please ask the question as to what he would actually. Thank you. I appreciate that. I do not know, but if you are implying the reverse, I will volunteer something. She was never at my house in Chappaqua for any personal reasons. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't say anything for anything. Oh, you didn't. But you had a great tone in your voice and you're very good at it. Thank you. I'll take that as a compliment. It is a compliment. Boy, Joe, I. I haven't seen witnesses get coached like that by lawyers in quite a long time. David. David Kendall. David Kendall was having a great time telling the President what to say and what not to say, along with the the other woman there. But, you know, this is just classic stuff. I never expected much to come of this because. Because the Clintons are what they are and congressional committees are what they are. And the fact is this is a, this is a useless exercise when you have two professional liars like the Clintons. You're right. You're right, Joe. And it is useless. But guess what? Everything they're doing in D.C. has been useless for decades upon decades. Very quickly, I agree. One thought each. Will we ever see a perp walk? Certainly, you know, lock her up. Hillary Clinton. I don't think we're gonna see anyone locked up. Quick thought, George. And then Joe. Well, Eric, this is certainly one of the key pillars of making America great and the America first movement. And what really got President Trump elected, I would argue three different times, and that is holding these corrupt figures accountable. So this is something that's absolutely critical. And there are ongoing criminal investigations led by the DOJ and the U.S. attorney's office in D.C. that we really need to start some answers or some progress reports on. Because while the war in Iran has really taken all the air out of these conversations, this is what the American people really voted on in terms of why President Trump is there, the economy, the border. So we really need to reprioritize what President Trump got elected for. And starting with these investigations would go a long way in doing that. Very quickly, Joe, your final thought. Will we see a perp walk anywhere? No, you're not going to see any perp walks involving these people. And again, the Clinton foundation when she was Secretary of State was the gold mine. That's where you got the corruption, the kickbacks, the, the pay to play and the government passed on it and shame on the Justice Department. And you know, it's just too bad you're not going to get anything now. It's over. It's too bad, it's a shame. It's a big show. We're all the audience and they're all the clowns on stage. And I'm talking both sides of the aisle, folks. 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Maybe it's, you know, assisting them in some way. Oh, got it, got it, got it. Oh, yeah. Here we see what's in that corner right there. Trump to speak. I like to go further. It is 4 o', clock, folks, and we do know the President of the United States loves this hour. Let's go to President Trump. Is he ready to go? Let's do it. Thank you very much, everybody, please. This is a very important meeting. We had a lot of important meetings today, but this is a big one because this is really the future of, I think, beyond college sports. This is the future of colleges because we're looking at numbers that are coming in and the amount of money being spent and lost by otherwise very successful schools is astounding. Just in a short period of time, it's only going to get worse. So we have to save college sports and save, I believe, colleges. We have to save our Olympic team because so many sports that are in the Olympics will no longer be represented by people that went through college and became competitive, became great at the sport. We won't be anywhere near what we were. I think it's just a very, very important meeting. We have the most important people in college sports and really beyond beyond. And what I'd like to do is I'll say a few words. I'm going to ask Marco and a few to also say a few words. And I'd like to take your suggestions. And we have the speaker, we have John Thune is here or represented. We have some of the big politicians, senators, Congress people, people that can make it get approved because we ultimately, we have to go through, I guess we have to go through. I do an executive order. I'd love to do that. I'll probably do it anyway. We'll do an executive order. We'll see how it works. Because it would be a really nice. I have a really nice, simple idea. But we'll go through this process and maybe, I think we'll get it through Congress. We have a good chance. I think it'll be very bipartisan. And I just want to thank you all for being here as we stand up for one of America's greatest and most beloved institutions. It's called college athletics, which is true, means so much. I want to thank Secretaries Marco Rubio, Scott Bessant, Doug Burgum, Howard Lutnick, Linda McMahon for being here. And also speaker of the House Mike Johnson doing a great job. Governor Ron DeSantis, Senators Ted Cruz, Eric Schmidt, Leader Steve scalise, Representatives Lisa McClain, Jim Jordan, Brett Guthrie and Laurie Trahan. Thank you all for being here. We have some great people. Condoleezza, thank you very much. I see you over there. Great to have you. Great to be with you. A very special welcome to New York Yankees President Randy Levine. Friend of mine for a long time. I used to sit with George Steinbrand in the box. It was one of the most difficult days of my life. I would always be like, he liked me, I liked him. But we both liked very few other people and we had a good time. We won a Lot of, lot of games, right, Randy? We never lost. We never lost, actually. And a great champion of college athletics. Former. So you just said Secretary of State, a woman who's really respected, Condoleezza Rice. Thank you very much again, Condoleezza. And Ron DeSantis has been working very hard with us and wherever you may be, Ron. Hi, Ron. And has some great ideas and some great coaches that gave him some great ideas. We're gathered today to discuss an important threat to the integrity and culture of college sports. The inability to set rules on eligibility, transfers, name, image and likeness. And more, much more than that in the face of endless lawsuits. And it's. What's going on with the legal community is incredible. We had a lawsuit a couple of years ago by a radical left judge from California who decided, knowing nothing about football or college sports, that everything was illegal that was taking place. And I don't think it was ever appealed. Nobody can find out if it was appealed or not. But you can win an appeal. I think I win more cases on appeal than I do in front of some judges that are not very good. But it was a horrible, incredible ruling and it threw the sports world and the athletic, college, athletic world into tithers. And it's, that's where we are right now. It's crazy. Things are happening. Young people are being signed, 17 year old quarterbacks for $12 million, $13 million, 14 million. We have a seven year freshman. You know, we have people, we're seeing things that we've never seen before. We have college players that don't want to go to the NFL because they're making more money in college. Right. Jim Jordan. And a lot of really bad things are happening. But basic questions like who is eligible to play are now virtually unregulated and decided randomly by judges rather than by reasonable agreed upon rules that could be very simple and very simply drawn. So this has grown into a major challenge. We actually have some of the best sports agents here because I think they'd like to see it solved, but maybe not. I'm not 100% sure about that. But they're represented. We have everybody represented today, just about every group you can think of. But it's grown into a major challenge that threatens the future of college sports and really colleges themselves, because many are going to go, many are going to go down the tubes. It was announced at Penn State, their athletic division lost $535 million this last year. Florida State, Ron and I spoke about it. $440 million loss. It was just announced that Rutgers lost $95 million. And they're doing all sorts of things to try and save, save the ship. And I think those numbers are nothing compared to what. What's going to happen. This is new. This just happened. Those numbers are going to go to levels that nobody's ever seen before. If you had no salary cap in the NFL, you'd see staggering losses. We have no salary cap in colleges. Colleges are going to have unless something's done, unless we solve this problem. And I think probably today. And we're going to ask for ideas that, you know, not that we don't have to take. We don't have to take months. We'd like to see if we could do it for next season. But we have, and we certainly have the brain power. We have tremendous knowledge, far more knowledge than I have about this subject. But it also poses special dangers for women's sports and our Olympic pipeline. Women's sports are being canceled all over the country. Just so we understand, women's sports are in deep trouble. Other than one particular woman's team, that's Miami, where I have my granddaughter on the team. They canceled men's golf, but women's golf is doing just fine. I'm only kidding. I'm only kidding. But they are canceling golf, they're canceling wrestling, they're canceling fencing. They're canceling even basketball. I thought that would be maybe immune, but it's in trouble. And it's all going to football. But ultimately, football is going to be the worst laggard of all. It's not going to be affordable, and it's going to take down practically every college, in my opinion, is going to take down virtually every college or every college that wants to be. They think they want to be competitive. Under the current system, educational institutions find themselves in a financial arms race for athletes in sports like football and basketball and both. I mean, both of them. But basketball is being hurt very badly. It's really. It's being dominated by football. Last July, I signed an executive order to stop destructive play, pay for play schemes that are all over the place and keep college athletics rooted in the traditions that made it great. I thought we had a great system, frankly. I thought we had a system that should have been appealed and it could have been maybe perfected a little bit, but it took close to 100 years. It was developed over 100 years, and one judge that knew nothing about sports, knew nothing about football, knew nothing about Olympics, knew nothing about anything, just decided everything was unconstitutional. It's crazy. But only Congress now it looks like can deliver a permanent fix. So speaker, you and John and everybody else, including Democrats that are represented very strongly, we can hopefully get it done. Federal legislation must allow college athletic programs to set common sense rules, simple common sense rules, without endless litigation, and establish a fair name, image and likeness standard that eliminates the patchwork of conflicting state laws. That's the other problem. All of these colleges, they're all in different states and all the laws are different. So you got laws that are totally different, some one way, some an entirely different way, while allowing the full spectrum of college athletic programs to thrive. It should thrive. If Congress does not take action fast, it could destroy college sports and destroy the colleges that play these sports. They'll be destroyed. They'll be going bankrupt. Everyone, so many of them. No other nation in the world has built a system that develops champions in classrooms and on the field, producing Olympic heroes, professional legends and the leaders of tomorrow all at once. I thought the system of scholarships was great. What do I know? But I thought it was great. And just one of those things. I was with Nick Saban the other day and you know, his timing is exquisite. He played and he won and won and won. And when he saw this thing, he said, I'm going to get out of. I'm not doing this anymore. He's around here someplace. Where's. Where's Nick? Where are you, Nick? Right now? He doesn't admit this. I said, how come you left? Just. He didn't want to go through one season because there's no better mind at this than that man. And he looked and he said, what a shame. What a shame. And he's going to speak about it. And I think you have some very constructive ideas, Nick. I think so. No other nation in the world has built a system like this. It's so good. And we've. We've thrown it right out the window. And I'd like to see you go back to something maybe resembling that and maybe, maybe pay for each player. Not such crazy pay, but just pay for each player with every player. Maybe the quarterback and the third string lineman making the same. But you're going to tell us about it. We're going to try and get it passed. Our goal is not to go back to the days where student athletes were never allowed to receive any compensation. Although not the worst idea, but I think a lot of people would overrule me on that. But we must pass reforms that protect the cherish American tradition of college athletics for future generations. So I look forward to hearing from a lot of you and I think a few of you are going to say a few words and then we'll get to some ideas and I don't know, maybe by the end of a long session if we need it. I'm here as long as you need me. They came to me, they said, you're the only one that can do it. I said, oh, thank you very much, really, because I'm president. Okay. To be honest. But we have certain abilities that we'll see if we can get it done. So I'll ask in this order. Marco, you'll say a few words. And then Speaker Johnson, Randy Levine, Nick Saban, Charlie Baker, the governor, Ron DeSantis and Greg Sanke, Sarah Hirschland and Pete Bavacqua. And they'll go pretty quickly. And then we'll hear from some of the people and we may have something come up that's somewhat of a miracle. There's an idea out there and somehow it's going to have to be arrived at because there's no way this system can will allow colleges to, in my opinion, will allow schools to live financially. It's not going to happen. So if I could, I'll ask Marco, you can start and then speaker, and then we'll go through the list and then we'll take some ideas or questions. All right, thank you very much, Marco. Thank you, Mr. President. And I'll be very brief. The first is, I think you've already touched on, and that is what a unique institution college athletics is to the United States. Very few countries in the world actually have something like what we have. And it's not just unique. It's really important. A lot of people don't see some of the aspects of it that are so positive. The first is the student athlete experience. There are literally thousands and thousands of young Americans who are going to graduate this year with not just degrees, but advanced degrees. And athletics made that possible. And the athletic support and the academic support that they're receiving from these schools is extraordinary. So there are kids that literally would not have gone to college or may not have considered it, and certainly not the advanced degrees without the help that this provides. Also the development of the individual that student athletics provides. I mean, look, if you can show up at 6am in the morning every day for a lift, you're learning. One of the most important lessons in life, 95% of life, is showing up where you're supposed to be on time. These are extraordinary lessons that people are gaining. Two more things that people don't think about, unity. Few things in America unify us anymore. And one of the things that does college athletics in particular, I can just the experience of a Saturday, and I was about to say a Saturday in the South. But I don't want to discriminate against the other conferences. I'm sure it's true there too, where communities get together, people don't, they don't agree on anything else except that they want that home team on the field to win. And it's one of the few unifying experiences we have as a country. And it's so critical and the last you touched on as well, Mr. President. This is the feeder program for our Olympic teams. Without it, the there is no feeder program. Other countries have structured it differently, but the way we have it in our country is so unique in that way. We all know the challenges and what this system now needs is a system of rules and regulations, of guardrails, so that everyone is operating under the same rules. And it's difficult to do because it's moving very fast. But you've got the right people in the room here, Mr. President, and the right leadership. So thank you for caring about this because it truly is important for the country and for millions of Americans who are fans and thousands and thousands of families who have student athletes in their family who have experienced the system are going through it now. So thank you. And Marco has a conflict of interest that he didn't reveal, which is a very serious charge. Could be a criminal charge, actually, because his son is a very good player for a very good college and makes money with nil. So this is a serious conflict of interest. But we'll, we'll take him. We waive his conflict, please. Thank you, Mr. President. It's an honor to be here with so many of the all time greats. It's a treat for us members of Congress. There's many of them around the table and they're happy to be working on the issue with you. And for you, I would say people often say that speaker of the House is the most stressful job in the world. Then I think of SEC football coaches because they got to win every Saturday night. And my friends who are in those positions, I have a lot of sympathy for. I want to commend President Trump for his extraordinary leadership and he leads on this important and complex issue as he does all others. He sees a problem, he wants us to solve it. And he assembles the right people to get that done. And I think he really is the only figure on the planet who could do that. So I thank you for that. Mr. President, getting everybody together. One more issue that we'll tackle. I'm a double alum from LSU undergrad and law school, so I bleed purple and gold. And we talk a lot about college athletics down where I'm from. It's a big thing. But the whole country cares deeply about it because it's part of Americana. As Marco was saying, it's part of who we are as a country. And it's so important and we have to navigate through these unprecedented waters together. I'm glad there's some really smart people who are working on that. Mr. President, Congress does need to act quickly because it's getting out of hand. And I think everybody here recognizes that. I want you to know the House has been working very deliberately and I think very effectively on this. We've done a lot of. Of good work. And many of you are familiar with the SCORE Act. We passed a important procedural hurdle in December. We're right on the verge of passage in the House and we now think we have the votes to do that. But that's why this meeting is so timely, because we want to have the conversation today and in the days that follow because we want to make sure that we get it right. It's a bipartisan product. It has broad support in the House. We believe we'll have every Republican now and we have a double digit support, support of at least Democrats. It is bipartisan. A lot of good work's gone into that to get it there. And we think it may be the vehicle to get us to the next phase of this and this essential conversation. But the next step is preparing that legislation for final passage. So I was talking with Randy and many of you who are leading on this. This is a very important and timely conversation that we'll have today. And I said, in the days that follow, we're encouraged to see all of you, the experts who know this issue better than anybody in the country, willing to put your time and effort into it and provide feedback. Because we want the final product to be the best it can be. We want to accomplish the necessary ends and we think we're very close. Everybody here wants to see this American institution succeed. And we have that opportunity within our grasp. And we want to make sure that the solution we develop actually works for student athletes who are at the heart of this. And that's who we care about so much. We know that the foundation of any good deal begins with getting the right people in, in the right room. And this is the right room. And this is historic. And no one knows Better than the man who literally wrote the book on it. And that's President Trump. And so I want to thank you for assembling us, Mr. President, and we look forward to the discussion. I yield back. Thank you, Mike. Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you, Mr. President, for putting this group together, leading up to this, wherever I would go, because I had an interest in this, both professionally, where the Yankees have done and my experience on board of directors of various colleges. Everybody would say over and over again, this thing is failing, failing bad. And it's like a hamster on a wheel. It kept spinning on the wheel but never getting off. It was never done. And they told me, please talk to the President, because he's the only person who will convene a group like this in order to reach a consensus to get it done. And he agreed to do it. But he said to me, if I'm going to do it, it has to be bipartisan. And he asked me and the speaker and everybody else to make sure it is bipartisan. And it is. We have people from both parties here, and that's what has to happen. So we put this group together. Why do we put this group together? Because it's representative of the people who know the best on how to solve this issue. We have college presidents who've been living with this from all over the country. We have some of the finest athletic directors who have been pioneers in this area. We have professional sports executives. Why do we have them in the room? The answer is, as Commissioner Silva would tell you, or hall of Fame with Lou Lamorello, these issues have been in professional sports for a long time. We have a lot of experience. I negotiated the first revenue sharing agreement in baseball caps. Revenue sharing, distribution, all of those things are what we live with every single day. So maybe we can share our experience and transport it here, as long as it's in the context of college sports. There's one group that is missing, but they won't be missing from the final product, and that's the student athletes themselves. This group, as we move on, you can be assured, will be talking to the student athletes and all their representatives to make sure their voices is clearly heard. You know, time is of the essence. People have told me they've been to Congress 15, 16, 17 times. One group goes in, the other group goes in, and nothing seems to get done. Time is of the essence. Besides the numbers the president talked about, I heard a story from one of the great professional athletes on the Yankees, one of our great players yesterday, and he went to a great University. And he said to me, thank you for doing this because every day I got asked for more money for Nils, every single day. And what happened is I gave money for an nil for a quarterback who left the next year. Meanwhile, a friend of mine, a friend of mine daughter is on the rowing team and she lost her scholarship and she's an Olympic, hopefully. And now she has to pay her own way. That's just not right. It's really not right. And it has to be fixed. So, Mr. President, thank you for bringing this group together. I think they're really just for discussion. We'll hear from everybody. I think there are really two things to add on to what the speaker said that have to be done. One, there has to be an antitrust exemption because everyone in the room has to be able to talk to each other, all the conferences, the schools, the presidents, everybody, without getting sued. That includes the kids. They have to be involved in these negotiations, the student athletes. And there has to be an entity that's set up by the people who are going to administer this, run this, that are empowered by the legislation to handle all the issues the president spoke about. And we're all here to support that, that, to help that and to make sure that it's just not business as usual. Just an idea I have is maybe that antitrust exemption lasts for two years to make sure that these rules and everything are really being enforced. And if they're not, we go back to square one. It'll give the Congress oversight, give the president oversight. But it's time to move. And Mr. President, I couldn't agree with you more. Thanks to your leadership. Leadership, we got to move this really, really fast. We have ESPN and Fox here. They're probably the biggest payers in this entire thing. And the fact that they're hearing, their voices heard is great. So, Mr. President, only you could pull this off. And we're grateful. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Randy and Nick Saban, please. Thank you, Mr. President, for the chance and the opportunity to be here to serve, speak with you today. But I just want everybody to know that I'm just a football coach. I spent my life when they, when we had the ball trying to get a first down, when they had the ball trying to get off the field on third down. So this is an unlikely position for me to be in to speak to such a distinguished group of people. Thank you. But I come here today with a question. What are the guiding principles for the future of college athletics? All athletics. I'm talking about football. Basketball, Olympic sports, revenue, non revenue, it doesn't matter. You know, my goal as a coach for my players, for our players, was to help them be more successful in life, that we would create an atmosphere and environment that would help them through personal development, academic support, 668 degrees in 17 years at Alabama, and help them develop a career as a football player. That was our goal so that they were creating value in life and we were preparing them for their future past athletics. So what happened, you know, in this current system that we have, that became impossible to do because people, instead of making decisions about creating value for their future, they were making decisions about how much money could they make at whichever school they could go to or transfer to. So I think we have a challenge here today about the ramifications of this current system on how it helps players be successful in their future and how we can impact and create a system that will help and preserve the opportunity for student athletes to be able to have success in their future beyond athletics. So we need to develop an effective system of revenue sharing, authentic name, image and likeness. Authentic being. You have marketing value, which now we have collectives which just create opportunities which just become pay for play eligibility issues where we have guys playing 6, 7 and 8 years. So you have 25 and 26 year old people playing against 18 and 19 year olds, which is not healthy. Transfer rules. We have over 4,000 people in the portal. Fans don't like it, support groups don't like it. It's not really healthy for players in graduation to transfer. Several times in your career, you really put yourself in a pickle in terms of your ability to graduate. So I think we need to come up with a system and we obviously have to do it with the President's leadership and also with Congress, probably. Whether it's antitrust legislation or whatever it is to allow student athletes in all sports, including women's and Olympic sports, to enhance their quality of life while going to college, but still provide opportunity to advance themselves beyond their athletic career, which is what the philosophy of college athletics and getting a college education has always been about. And how much does anybody talk about getting an education anymore? Nobody talks about it at all. Which is the most important thing any of these things student athletes can do in terms of enhancing their future. So thank you very much. Thank you very much, Nick. Charlie Baker. Well, thank you very much, Mr. President. I especially want to thank you for putting me in the lineup after the most legendary college football coach of all time. And I really want to thank you for your interest in this issue and your commitment to it. And I also want to thank you for the work that your administration has done in a number of different issues, working with our team and with many members of the folks who are in this room today. You know, today there are more kids playing college sports than at any time in our Nation's history. There's 556,000 student athletes across all three divisions playing on behalf of 1,100 schools. And those 1100 schools are second only to the United States of America in terms of the amount of financial assistance they make available to those student athletes. It's over $4 billion. That's also the biggest number we've ever invested as a community in the student athletes who attend our schools. There is a lot that is right with college sports. And anybody who watched the women's Olympic championship game between Canada and the United States would know that, among other things, all of the players on both of those teams were former college student athletes, all 46 of them from both teams that played in that championship final. Women's sports has grown dramatically. The visibility of women's sports, the viewership of women's sports, the attendance of women's sports, the investments in women's sports have all gone dramatically up over the the course of the past ten years or so. And if you talk to almost anybody who follows youth sports, they'll tell you that the growth in youth sports on the women's side continues to be profound. But that said, everything everybody has said about the challenges we face at this particular point in time is true. And I want to give a special thanks to Speaker Johnson and to Leader Scalise for the work that they've done. You know, to use a sports analogy, carrying the ball on behalf of the SCORE act in the House Chamber over the course of this year. It deals with the rules issue, it deals with the agents issue, it deals with some of the financial issues. It deals with the equity question. It deals with a wide variety of the issues that are challenging for so many in the college sports space these days. And the final thing I'll just say we have. I talk to a lot of people who are connected in one way or another to college sports, both in this country and around the world because they have children who attend college here in the US and over and over and over again, the thing I constantly hear is there's nothing like college sports anywhere else in the world. And you are so lucky to live in a country where you have a system that works for young people the way this one works for young people here. So I'm deeply grateful for your commitment to this issue. I'm thrilled by the folks you've managed to put around this table. I agree with others who said there's probably nobody else who could do that. And college sports was a great thing for me and my kids and my wife and so many of the. I know a lot of kids who wouldn't have graduated from high school, much less gone to and graduated from college if it wasn't for college sports. It's a truly unique American jewel and we should do all we possibly can to ensure its success for the next generation and the generations after that. So thank you again for having us all here today. Thank you, Charlie. And you're doing a great job. Appreciate it. Ron, please. Well, thank you Mr. President, for doing this. I mean, you have pedal to the metal on so many different issues from national security to border to energy and you're not taking the pedal off any of that. And you could be forgiven to say college sports is important, but your plate's full and you just added it to all the other things that you're doing. And I thank you for that because this would not get done without your leadership. You, no one else could get this group together. No one else could work with Congress to be able to do it. And so I appreciate it because it is important to a lot of people. I mean, we know this is out of whack. We went from a system where you couldn't give a student athlete anything, they could sell your jersey, you get nothing to now quarterback throws for 300 yards and they go see the coach, hey, I need more money, give me more money from the club, okay, I'll transfer or they get money and I oh, I don't want to play in that bowl game, sorry, I'm just going to sit out. And I think that that's been bad certainly for college football and college sports. But let's just be clear. A lot of this speakers have said, and I speak from being in the south, college football is king. It's not even close. University of Florida is the reigning NCAA basketball national champion. The football team, I think they won four games. So guess what? Are the fans happy being the nc? Not really. They're mad because football didn't do good. And football has been able to generate so much money over the years that it subsidized a lot of the other programs. A lot of these non revenue sports people have had more and more opportunities. Well now with the collectives and how much it's costing football, the Costs are going up dramatically, and it is threatening these other sports. And, you know, look, yes, being able to produce Olympians, being able to do that, I think it's really important. But 99% of Division 1 athletes are not going to make a living at it, and they're not going to play in the Olympics. And I speak as somebody, you know, I was the baseball captain at Yale. Like, if we had nil there, I probably wasn't going to get a lucrative nil deal. That's fine. I get it. But you know what being a college athlete teaches you? There's a reason why the Naval Academy and in West Point, you have to be an athlete when you go through there, because it teaches you discipline, it teaches you about hard work, it teaches you about competitiveness, it teaches you how to cope with failure. And so a lot of the people, the students and these sports that may not get be as glitzy, but are going to be harmed by the current trajectory, these are going to be future leaders of our country in a variety of different endeavors. And so I'm thankful that this is going to get done under President Trump's leadership. This is a bipartisan issue. You know, we are so division on all this different stuff. There is no partisanship about this. We all want our universities and the athletics to succeed. A lot of the speakers have talked about the issues of eligibility. I mean, how do you have there till you're like 25, 18 to 25, and you're still playing? How do you play in the NBA G League and then come back and play in college? How do you get to transfer all these different things? We know those need to be addressed. And obviously the compensation with nil. I signed one of the first NIL bills, but that was like, if they're making money off you, you get. Now they're doing, like, perpetual negotiations, even more than pro athletes can do. So I'm confident this is the group to do it. This is the president to do it. And there's going to be a lot of people in our country that are going to be happy when this problem is fixed. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Ron, Very much. Very much. Greg. Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you for convening this group. And I also think it's important to point out you've been to Tuscaloosa a few times for great football games, couple national championships, and I think the power of. Of your presence around college sports is an important factor in this conversation. I had a knock on the door of my Residence hall in 1983 by my baseball coach. I was a bad catcher at letourneau College. That's why I'm here today, because he taught me some lessons that had I not been in that situation, I never would have learned. I've spent two of the last three weeks with our student Athlete leadership councils and I asked them, what would you say in a room like this that people need to hear? And that there were two things that they wanted me to communicate. One is when I line up at kickoff, at tip off, or I put my cleats in the starting blocks of the track and field meet, I want to know the other people in other uniforms from other teams in other states and other campuses are held to the same standards and the same rules to which I am being held. They also want to know that they're being supported from a physical and a mental well being standpoint. Part of that is their concerns about sports, gambling and the pressures that are emerging upon them. I think the themes that have been communicated here rather than go through my notes are worth restating. This is a bipartisan, I would argue a nonpartisan issue. This is a circumstance where among the four conferences, the ACC, Big 12, Big 10 and SEC, over $2.3 billion was spent in FY24 to support Olympic sports. And in Paris, 219 US medalists went through the college sports system, 89 of those being gold medalists in college sports. We move young people from adolescence to adulthood through education, through becoming part of a community which they otherwise not would have not experienced and the opportunity to build a legacy in the current environment, each of those elements is interrupted, transferring four or five. I have a basketball player in my league on a sixth campus does not provide educational achievement opportunities like we should demand. Being part of a community when you transfer that much doesn't happen. And building a legacy is overrun by the next name, image and likeness opportunity. I appreciate what's been done in the House and the SCORE Act. Speaker Johnson, I once lived in Natchitoches, Louisiana, place you represent. Leader Scalise, Your work. I know Congressman Roy has been part of those conversations and others in this room. And it is by part artisan. But we need to bring more people in and we have work to accomplish in the Senate. We cannot go on longer in this circumstance. And this is not about revenue. This is about structures and national standards for eligibility for transfers for medical care and mental wellness care, for transparency and accountability around name, image and likeness activity. We'll fracture more if we fail to act. That's why the appreciation, Mr. President, for the gathering is most sincere because I want to see our women's sports thrive. The Southeastern Conference, we currently have 10 national championships. Two thirds of those are on women's sports. We didn't achieve that mountaintop in football this year. We'll keep working on that. We want our Olympians to go through our pools and our track and fields and our volleyball courts. And we want young men who aspire to be in the NBA or the NFL to be educated, to mature and to grow as they seek that achievement. We ought to be focused on making college sports great yet again. And I look forward to being a part of this conversation moving forward. Thank you, Greg, very much. Sarah Hirschland, please. Thank you. Good afternoon everyone. Let me start by saying thank you President Trump and your whole administration for your continued support of both Team USA and the Olympic and Paralympic Games. I'm proud to be here today to represent Team USA and I will say it is no surprise to anyone in this room that we are the greatest sporting nation in the world. Team USA is the most successful team in history with more Olympic medals than any other nation. One of our competitive advantages is the education based sports system our country has embraced for more than a century. America's colleges and universities built a world class athletic system that develops the whole athlete academically and competitively. This system is the envy of the world, as we heard Charlie say. It has also been the backbone of Team USA for generations. The results speak for themselves. You heard Greg referenced some and I'll just expand. The athletes from just the Paris games represented 231 different college institutions and 71 conferences. 90 different schools were represented by our medalists from just the Paris Games alone. This success does not happen by accident. It is directly impacted by accident by the broad based sustained investment in sport on campus. You've heard that referenced. This is not something we can take for granted. To say that our country should be grateful to colleges and universities and their athletic programs is an understatement. And while the United States has topped the gold medal table in eight of the last 10 summer games, I am here to tell you the margin narrowing around the world. Nations are investing aggressively in sport, building centralized training systems, expanding funding and prioritizing athlete development in new ways. That growing global competition comes at a moment Ondeck is built to back small businesses like yours. Whether you're buying equipment, expanding your team or bridging cash flow gaps, Ondeck's loans up to $400,000 help make it happen fast. Rated A by the Better Business Bureau and earning thousands of five star trust. Pilot REVIEWS Ondeck delivers funding you can count on. Apply in minutes@ondeck.com depending on certain loan attributes, your business loan may be issued by Ondeck or Celtic Bank. Ondeck does not lend in North Dakota. 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