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Good man.
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Don't do it on my advice. Just do it if you think it's right. That's all Gruber. Talk to you tomorrow.
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All right, folks, as we're talking about right there, markets closed. Rough day across the board. I will get to some of the other roughness brands. Dow Jones, about 800 points lower. S P, 118 points lower. That's quite a move. But the big loser of the day, the NASDAQ, down 536. That's more than two and a quarter percent lower. Jump over to the oil market. Up a touch, not much. 16 cents. We're good. We're still in the 58 range. Under 59. We're good with oil. It's about the only good thing we're seeing right here. Gold continues with 40, almost 4, 200 now. It's down a little bit today. And this is the one that just has me baffled, has us all baffled. Cryptocurrencies. Bitcoin dropped below 100. Not just dip below 100. This time it's trading 98, 000, maybe even on its way a bit lower. So I don't know, tough day on the markets, in the markets, as we say, or I used to say when I was in the markets. My next guest, a former CIA covert operations officer and now CEO of Portman Square Group. He is also the host of the daily podcast called it's by the Way. This is a great, great podcast, folks. The President's Daily Brief. You gotta not only just watch or listen to it, you sign up for it too. Subscribe to it. Happy to have Mike Baker back on the show. Mike, Venezuela, all the talk about Venezuela. I think you've spoken about this on the podcast as well. Venezuela is now. Are they making rumblings that they might fight back? Fight back the United States of America just because Trump is taking out some of their narco terrorist boats that are coming over. What are you hearing?
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Well, what we're hearing is that apparently in response to the buildup of military assets that the US has been doing in the Caribbean and much of it off the coastline of Venezuela, including the Gerald r. Ford, the U.S. carrier and the strike group that accompanies. Looks like Maduro's plan is his officers in his military, such as it is, they know they can't go toe to toe right with the US Military. That's obvious. In fact, one of their Officers actually made the comment, said we wouldn't last two hours in a direct conflict with the US Military. So it looks like they're planning, according to reporting, is that what they would do is more of a guerrilla tactic.
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Right.
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They would disperse their military units out in the field. They'd be looking to sabotage, create chaos. They'd use their civilian militias, the whole idea being, or so they're saying, to create this instability and almost an ungovernable country. And what I believe the Maduro regime is hoping that putting that information out there would do is dissuade the US Government from actually directly engaging the Maduro regime. With the idea being, well, we don't want to step into that mess.
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You know, I will tell you the smart money and you look for different cues and clues. What's really going on? If the world really thought that there was going to be any sort of major conflict with, with Venezuela or that they would be able to put up any sort of fight, you would see oil prices spike. Now, oil price, Venezuela is one of the major producers of oil. They have a lot of oil in their, under their ground. They've let it dilapidate the oil industry to the point where they're, they're producing about half of what they actually could. But if it were a situation where the US wanted to go in and say, we're going to replace Maduro, we're going to put in whomever. And by the way, for that we're going to get some, we're going to reinvigorate your oil infrastructure. You would see the oil prices we fluctuating. Yesterday, oil went down almost $3 a barrel. So no one believes anything that's coming out of the Middle East. Question is, do we? And we just heard there was another narco boat, I think the narco terrorist, 20th boat that was blown out of the water in the last, I believe, 48 hours or so. What is, what's the end game with this, Mike? Because as someone who's lost a child to fentanyl, as horrible as that is in fentanyl, and hate everything that's going on with these drug boats coming over. The libertarian in me doesn't like the US going into foreign waters and killing foreigners. It doesn't feel like it's the right thing to do. What are your thoughts on it?
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Yeah, I take your point entirely. Right. There's a lot of discomfort building around the world, certainly in Latin America and with our allies, our closest allies. I mean, some reports have indicated that the Brits, the UK Government is, has kind of clamped down on their intelligence sharing with the US over their discomfort over. Over these strikes in the Caribbean. Canada has expressed discontent. The eu, obviously, but, you know, the EU explaining about something the US Is doing. I think that the problem we've got is that we're in completely, no pun intended, unchartered waters right now. We've been fighting, supposedly for decades, a war on drugs, and it never really was a war. I was involved in counternarcotics operations with agency for quite a while. And, you know, you never changed the dynamic, right? It never made a difference. You could blow up all the gear, all the drugs you wanted to in some factory or site overseas, never change the street price, never change the volume of what was housed in warehouses around the. Both in the US and overseas. So it never really felt like you were. You were winning that supposed war. And I think what's happening now is the Trump administration has decided, look, let's make it an actual war. Let's try something different. Now, I'm not against killing narco traffickers, right? But I do think that they. They've stepped into an area here that leaves them somewhat vulnerable. And, and part of it is their lack of transparency, not explaining who these targets are to the degree that they can without releasing sources and methods, but not providing enough information to say, yeah, because I think the average American would be behind it if they understood, okay, we get it, we understand, we've seen the evidence. We. These are legitimate targets. But still, we're going to get a lot of pushback from the international community. And whether we care about that or not, Secretary of State Marco Rubio just finished the G7 meeting, and he basically told the attendees there, we don't need a permission slip from the international community to, you know, protect national interests here.
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In the US you know, and even if you think this is a great idea, let's just play politics for a second. The minute. And no one's perfect. I mean, just. Look, people make mistake, countries make mistakes, CIA makes mistakes. The minute you make one mistake and. Or God forbid, these narco terrorists put a civilian, someone who's not involved on one of those boats. As you know, we've seen Hamas use human shields in Gaza. The minute they do that and they're blown out of the water, you lose all the upside politically.
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Yeah, I agree with you. Look, and again, I'm conflicted on this, right, because on the one hand, I do think it's time to try something different. The problem is, of course, is the same that it's always been, which is the demand side. Right. You know, we, we do a terrible job of trying to, trying to lessen that demand. And as long as that demand exists, look, these narco traffickers are going to find ways to adapt. And so I think the problem is if the Trump administration believes that killing some of these traffickers and blowing some of these vessels out of the water is going to stop the flow of drugs, is going to somehow make these traffickers think, well, maybe we should get into a different line of work, they're mistaken because as long as the demand is there, the money is just too significant for them to change.
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Well, moving over to Ukraine, we haven't heard much from, from Ukraine, Russia. I did hear that Russia was amping up their, their, their attacks and the, the air defenses aren't I guess, up to speed or not performing the way that they had hoped they would. What do you know, what do you hear about, I guess a lot of that equipment's are, are, are our assets that we're sending Ukraine, right? Yeah, yeah.
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Part of this is just the intensity of the barrages. The missiles and drones that Russia's sending, they've intensified those barrages in parts, are overwhelming them. Part of it is a very simple explanation which is the weather, right? The, you know, the snow, the cloud cover, the weather conditions can make it more difficult to intercept or identify and intercept the drones in particular. But this is a serious issue. Now something else that since you brought up Ukraine that we, I think it's important for folks to concentrate on and we've been covering this the past day or so on the President's daily Brief and there's a shameless plug is that there's a scandal that's growing in Kiev right now involving their energy sector. It looks like, at least according to the Anti Corruption Bureau in Ukraine, looks like there's about $100 million kickback scheme where money was being siphoned off, the contracts were being inflated and all of this was within their energy sector. And of course their energy sector is having massive problems. They've got rolling blackouts. And this is touching very close to President Zelensky because it involves one of the key players was one of his ex business associates, a guy named Timor Mindich and he's now fled the country. So people should keep an eye on this because this scandal is, is becoming quite an issue and it could impact EU and US support because of course, Ukraine has a history of corruption within their government.
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So very important to point out. And you were, you were with the CIA Ukraine has always been known as the money laundering capital of. Of Eastern Europe. Right. And all of a sudden, we're surprised when we're sending $200 billion over there and, you know, all this. We have Democrats going in there, Lindsey Graham and Democrats, Chuck Schumer going over to Ukraine, shaking Zelensky's hand. Wow, there must be a lot of that going on. I can't imagine down the road what we're going to find out.
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Yeah, we never really did, you know, get to the bottom of. Of past corruption scandals in Ukraine. Zelensky came to office saying, I'm going to stop this cycle. We're going to prevent future corruption. But you've got a chaotic situation. You've got billions of dollars flowing in to a government that has had corruption in the past. If anyone thought that somehow there was going to be accountability 100% or that you were going to reduce the risk of corruption and graft, they were seriously either naive or just ignorant of the ways that things work in the world today. So there's not the transparency that we need. I think a lot of people have been clamoring over the past, you know, two, three years here in the U.S. certainly saying, okay, we understand, we want to be sympathetic, we want to support Ukraine, but we also want accountability. And again, this. This. This current scandal that's building within Kyiv, and make no mistake, Moscow, the Kremlin, will take advantage of this. So part of this will be amplified through, you know, the. The Kremlin's efforts, because they'll see this as an opportunity to weaken the Zelensky government, which has always been their. Their desire.
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Yeah. Well, here. Here's another shameless plug for you, my friend. But, folks, it's a great podcast. President's Daily Brief. Mike Baker, the host of that for quite a while, and it's awesome. Always good, Mike. Good to have you on, my friend. We'll talk to you again soon.
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Thank you, Eric. Take care, man.
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All right. All right. Hey, folks, I'm wearing the shirt because the edges exploding. It's exploding because of you. Your viewership means everything to me. You're subscribing at a rate that most new YouTube shows would take four to five years to get to, and we've done it in less than 60 days because of you. Take a look, Patrick. Bet David is a huge, huge personality in the space of getting ahead, of success, of grit, determination. He came on the podcast this week, dropped today, this morning. Here's a little snippet of it, but this is important. How do you Go from I'm not. I want to be successful. I want to prove them wrong. But there's this party going on over here and I really enjoy it right now. How do you get yourself back on that path? Well, I mean, the prosperous.
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Well, pre me going to the army, I partied six days a week, okay? And legit. I was the guy you wanted to party with. We would have a lot of fun together. Right. And I was very committed to that life. And then I joined the army.
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There is so much in that interview that you probably. He has a huge fan base. 9 million subscribers across all this is just. If you didn't know a lot about Patrick bet David, you're going to find a lot about what makes Patrick Beth, David as successful as he is, one of the most successful YouTubers around. Do me a favor. Hit that screen right there. Just take your phone, put your camera on it. QR code, sign up. You press the yellow button. It will never be charged at the dime. It's not for marketing. It's just to show YouTube that we're part of a platform that's growing like crazy. Folks, thank you for your viewership. Thank you for your support. Or just go to YouTube and say the Edge. YouTube @ Eric Bowling the edge. Subscribe. I appreciate you and thank you for your viewership. Thank you for your support and especially thank you for subscribing. We'll be back. Two and a half minutes. Alrighty, folks. Patriot Mobile has been called America's only Christian conservative wireless provider who upholds the first and second Amendment sanctity of life and supports our military veterans and first responders. Here to discuss their commitment is Patriot Mobile's chief marketing officer, Scott Colburn. Thank you, Scott, by the way, for, for doing what you guys are doing for the Patriots. Really, really cool. Patriot Mobile, proud sponsor of the Patriot Awards. What does this event represent to you and the company, Scott?
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Well, first of all, Eric, thank you for having me on. You know, we're. We're always wanting to get the word out about what we're doing here at Patriot Mobile. And you guys, you know, you're a big part of that Patriot Awards. Now, listen, look, we were up in New York last week and it was just an honor to be in the room with a group of people that clearly, you know, prioritize their values and their beliefs above convenience and comfort and just stood for what is right and good. And the stories that we heard, these, these people that we honored that night, it's inspiring and should be inspiring to all of us because Truly, that's the American spirit, right? To, to stand up for what's right and what's good. And that's kind of what we believe in at Patriot Mobile and why we exist. We, we want to fight for the good guys here, right? We want to provide an alternative to people that believe that freedom is worth fighting for. And we're going to be on the front lines anytime. You show me a group of people that's out there fighting for freedom.
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And you guys sponsored the Patriot Awards. And we noticed that Charlie Kirk, Charlie Kirk's legacy, had a huge presence there. Tell us about why that was so important to you.
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You know, Charlie is, has been a longtime friend of Patriot Mobile. We've known him for years. We want to do anything we can to honor his legacy. And in fact, Eric, we are, we're doubling down our commitment to TPUSA and all the good things that Charlie started. We owe it to Charlie to carry on his voice. And we just believe that we're just getting started here, right? I mean, Charlie would, would be amazed at what's happened just in the last two months. And we're going to be right there in the middle of it. We just. That's like I said, we owe it to him and to Erica and to, quite, quite frankly to everybody at TP usa, because those guys are really, really getting it done.
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You know, Patriot Mobile, you guys do great. You do great things besides providing great mobile cell service and, and such you give back to pro life, pro family, pro freedom causes. What impact are you seeing from those Investments, really. Investments at the community level?
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You know, that's a great question, Eric. And aside from, you know, all the great things we're doing in the four pillars that you said, I mean, it's about saving babies, right? It's about veterans and first responders. It's about, you know, protecting our free speech. But when you talk about at the local level, right, we're going to support grassroots politics. We, we hear, matter of fact, we're right here in Tarrant County. We're right in the middle. It's the largest red county remaining in the nation. It's right here in Texas, North Texas, where we live. It's where our offices are. And look, it's bigger than 15 states. If we lose Tarrant county, we lose Texas. If we lose Texas, we may well never have another Republican president again. So we're fighting that battle and it starts at the grassroots. We're trying to get local officials elected. And in fact, we've got one of our own, Lee Wamsgons here. She's in a senate race here, state senate race here in Texas and she's a fighter. We need more like her. We need to clean up some of this mess here in Texas. People look at Texas and thinks it's really red but we're fighting and we got to do whatever we can to keep it red. And we're going to support Lee and other candidates that are willing to step up and and be true conservatives, not this rhino Republican stuff that we're seeing all over the place. We need true conservatives to stand up and fight.
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Scott, very quickly, about 30 seconds or so, you guys have made a commitment to faith, family, etc. At a cost. Right. And just very quickly, the cost is well worth it. But tell us about the cost of, you know, because there are folks who may not want to jump on because of those things.
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Yeah, look, I mean we're definitely not going to be the cheapest cell phone service provider out there, but I can guarantee you we may be a dollar more than the next guy. But would you spend another dollar to know that you're going to be helping to fight freedom? The things that you believe in, First Amendment, second amendment, sanctity of life and military and first responders, to me that's priceless. Right. So it's not really about the price. Typically we can save you a little money, but it's about defending freedom. So let's get over switched over to Patriot Mobile and make it happen.
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Well, thank you from certainly from me personally, my family and certainly the Rav Bowling show family as well, Scott Cockburn, Chief Marketing Officer, Patriot Mobile. Thank you sir.
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Thank you Eric. God bless you.
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You have a great day. Hi folks. On Saturday, November 15th in Washington D.C. the Free Iran Convention. Free Iran Convention will bring together over 1,000 Iranian scholars, activists, professionals and community leaders who are dedicated to changing and charting a path towards a democratic, secular and non nuclear Iran. Here to discuss is the deputy director of the U.S. national Council of Resistance of Iran, Alireza Jafar's a day. I hope I said it right. Ali Reza, Good to have you back my friend. You know, it strikes me that this is something that has to come from the folks. You guys are putting some scholars together. Great idea, love it. But you how do you get the groundswell of people to do it? You need millions upon millions of Iranians to say enough is enough of these mullahs. Let's get back into the 21st century.
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Eric. Yeah, you nailed it. This conference is exactly about that. It's not about a Conference, just like scholars getting together outside of Iran. It's all about inside Iran. The focal point of the conference is actually a section called Voices from Inside Iran. Those political prisoners. Actually, we're going to have a lot of messages from people who are on a death row, who are political prisoners inside Iran. Why they were sentenced to death because they stood up to the ayatollahs. They called for change in Iran. They supported the main organized resistance, the mek, which has acted as engine for change. There's going to be messages from those on the ground, what is known as the resistance units. These are the people who are going to cover their faces, but they're going to talk about their commitment, their involvement, the role they played in the uprisings in the past, how committed they are to bring down the regime in Iran. The message is really that change will come on the ground by the people of Iran. And it's not just going to happen by itself. There needs to be an organized force, which is those resistance units on the ground. And basically their message to the outside world is that you need to look at Iran through the prism of the Iranian people and the organized resistance, not the regime. And the keynote address actually is going to come from Paris, Mrs. Maryam Rajavi, the President elect of the National Council of Resistance of Iran, who has played a huge role in galvanizing the network inside Iran, but also mobilizing international support for change in Iran, international support for those on the ground. This is going to be a very unique convention that I invite everyone to come and join.
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Alireza. I remember, correct me I'm wrong, if I'm wrong. I remember there was a point where Tehran was an up and coming city. Women were allowed to wear street clothes. The feeling was it was a beautiful city that was growing and technology was one of the main economic products coming out of Tehran. And then it went back to the mullahs almost like it went back 100 years. What happened? Am I wrong? And what happened if I'm not wrong?
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Well, you know, certainly a good portion of what you said is actually the truth, that Iran certainly, you know, there was a desire on the part of the people of Iran to advance, to progress. Remember, Iran is a nation state very over 2000 years. A lot of the science and literature and culture and all of that in medicine, everything came from Iran centuries ago. But the problem with that, which actually led to the 1979 revolution, was that we had a repressive ruler, the Shah, who ruled through iron fist, put intellectuals in jail, announced a single party rule was very corrupt. The people of Iran didn't like it. They said it's fine. That, you know, it's not about, like women just having the ability to wear whatever they want to wear, but it's their role in the leadership. What's their role in the society, what's the role of the other people in the society. That actually led to a genuine revolution, popular revolution. Millions of people swept the Shah out of power. What happened was that because the Shah had put a lot of the intellectuals in jail and got rid of him and he left the network of the clerics intact, they stole the leadership of a genuine revolution and installed even more repressive.
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So I mean to cut you off. My point, I'm kind of out of time here. My point is, if it happened once, you know, I'm not talking about 200 years ago, we're talking about 50 years ago, 45, 47, 46 years ago, it could happen again the other way, in the better way. And you guys are at the spear, tip, tip of the spear of making that change back to bringing Iran into the 21st century where people have human rights are still, women have rights again, and folks can worship who they want to worship, not just Allah. Sir, thank you so much for your time. Ali Reza Jafar's today. Thank you so much.
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Thank you so much, Eric, always a pleasure.
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We'll see you again soon. All right, folks, back two and a half minutes. Alrighty, folks. One of them, by the way, that's Washington D.C. hey, Mad Dog, is that a live shot?
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Yes, sir.
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Tell me. The sun is going down at 429 in Washington right now. Oh, my goodness gracious. Because we're still in South Florida. I think it's. I think we still got an hour of sunlight here. Anyway, one of the biggest shams and scams ever perpetrated upon the American people. And no surprise here, it was orchestrated by a Democrat. And not just any Democrat, one of the most destructive, corrupt in America, hating presidents in modern history, maybe ever.
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If you've got health care already, then you can keep your plan. If you are satisfied with it. If you like the plan you have, you can keep it. I intend to keep this promise. If you like your health care plan, you'll be able to keep your health care plan. You like your plan and your doctor, you can keep them. You'll be able to keep your health care plan. If you like your plan, you keep your plan. If you like your doctor, you like your plan, you can keep your doctor, you can keep your plan. You like your current insurance, you keep that insurance. Period. End of story. If you've got health insurance, you can keep it. If you have insurance that you like, then you will be able to keep that insurance. If you like your health care plan, you keep your health care plan. Nobody's going to force you to leave your health care plan. If you like your health care plan, you will keep it your plan. If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan.
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Get the point? It's called the Affordable Care act, which is actually neither affordable nor cares about anyone. It was however, like most of Barack Obama's political career, entirely in act. Barack Obama and his Democrat enclave promised that Obamacare would fix health care costs once and for all. Bend the cost curve down, they said. Remember that? We're going to bend the cost curve down. All it did, as the President points out, was enrich the insurance companies. And Americans are finally waking up to the fact that the so called Affordable Care act or Obamacare, was not only a massive scam, but has all but destroyed the modern medical system. Anyone with any common sense knows and understands that Obamacare all but wiped out the middle class in this country. Don't take my word for it though. Listen to 2014 Chuck Schumer tell us so.
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Democrats should have continued to propose middle class oriented programs and built on the part partial success of the stimulus.
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But unfortunately Democrats blew the opportunity the American people gave them.
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We took their mandate and put all.
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Of our focus on the wrong health care reform. Now the plight of uninsured Americans and.
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The hardships caused by unfair insurance company practices certainly needed to be addressed. But it wasn't the change we were hired to make. Americans were crying out for the end to the recession, for better wages and more jobs, not changes in health care.
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And yet it was Chuck Schumer's own shutdown that unveiled the unavoidable truth that Obamacare has destroyed the health care industry and it's actually lost so much money that the industry now needs a trillion dollars to bail it out of the Democrat created mess. The absolute failure of Obamacare is now fully exposed. Obamacare always had one clear end goal. Health care for all, including illegals, freeloaders and future Democrat voters. They're all one in the same. Obamacare was designed to clear the decks of medical insurance competition, forcing prices higher, the road to Medicare for all. The ultimate Orwellian nightmare socialism. Folks, all you have to do is look at the rising cost in premiums. Before Obamacare, they hovered around $13,000 a year for the average family of four. That number was up to nearly $24,000 a decade later in 2023 and we're nearly double that 2009 number now. Obamacare deliberately killed low premium catastrophic health insurance, wiped it out. And all that is on the evil Democrats. Well, and of course John McCain, by the way, Meghan McCain, I don't miss your old man at all. McCain's thumbs up was the winning point, the vote that the Democrats needed to take Obamacare upfield. And they're forced to admit that failure Today. I owe you an answer on why.
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It is I'm standing here today asking.
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To extend something that was temporary. And here's the reason. We did fail to bring down the cost of health care. The truth of the matter is, in my view, that the current health care system is broken. It is dysfunctional and it is cruel. But I want to ask my Republican friends a simple question. Are you happy with the fact that here in the United States we are the only major country not to guarantee health care to every man, woman and child? You know, government shut down over, over this, this idea that health care costs were going to go up and, and likely going to be taken away from illegals, but generally go up. But Those, those Democrats 15 years ago put that in to expire, that those, those cost overrides were expiring this year. It's their plan. We all hated it. It's their plan. And somehow they blame the Republicans. I see. Republicans, are you up? Shut up, Bernie. Sit down. But I thought Obamacare was supposed to make your health care for all socialist dreams come true, Bernie. I guess it was an utter failure, just like we all knew it would be. We warned about it 15 years ago, but gets even worse, folks. You see, Obamacare was to bail out state and local governments that had made unaffordable promises to their early retirees. And by the way, the folks who were illegal going into the hospitals. Those governments literally forced employees to use Obamacare and forced federal taxpayers to pay the bill. Just your typical Democrat blue state corruption, socialism, folks. Nothing to see here. Make promises you can't keep. Spend money until you have no more money to borrow and spend. Find new and inventive ways to make the taxpayers pay for your massive errors. Ah, got it. The Democrat Party in action. And every time Democrats whine and complain about the state of our health care system, what they're really doing is admitting that everything they said about Obamacare was a lie. They sold it as a plan of God. It was actually the exact opposite. And now they're Tearing the whole thing to shreds. But somehow it's the President's fault for not subsidizing their crappy plan that they told was going to sunset this year anyway. Fifteen years ago, Obamacare was brought in to create socialized medicine. By the way, an epic failure right here in America, just like New York will be. Here's Jonathan Gruber, the MIT economist who designed Obamacare, admitting that very fact. This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure CBO did not score the mandate as taxes. If CBO score the mandate as taxes, the bill dies. Okay, so it's written to do that in terms of risk rated subsidies. If you had a law which said healthy people are going to pay in it, made explicit that healthy people paying and sick people get money, it would not have passed. Okay? Just like the people.
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Transparent.
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Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. Lack of of transparency built on lies. Hoping that Americans are stupid enough or down the road will forget and still fall for it. But here's the thing. At some point and sooner rather than later, Republicans need to put forward a serious health care plan of their own. Democrats are clearly moving towards a de facto universal system by pushing everyone onto Obamacare through costly and unsustainable subsidies. It's one thing to call for ending those subsidies, but you can't simply pull the plug without offering an alternative for the millions of Americans, real American, the citizens who now rely on that, that they forced them all onto, including many who supported the President. Republicans have been warned. Let's make this yet another avenue into this golden era before these socialists come up with yet another way to take this country hostage. And I don't know, maybe we just call it Trumpcare. Maybe that will work back two and a half minutes. What's that, Mad dog? Kansas City? Kansas City, Missouri or Kansas City? Do you know there's a Kansas City, Missouri and a Kansas City, Kansas? Did you know that? I did not know. I thought it's just Missouri supposed. Where's the stadium? I think it's Missouri. Missouri? Let's just. The Arrowhead Stadium. I think it's Missouri. I'm pretty sure it is. Let's just say it's been another bad week for Democrats. Kind of bad year for Democrats actually. Classic case of damned if you do, damned if you don't. This was a self inflicted wound for the new American Communist Party. Not only did they get none of what they were trying to scrounge out of the Republicans under duress in the shutdown, but now their party's screaming for the so called old guard to be done away with. All I know, it's a joy to watch them eat their own.
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What is so important for folks to understand is that this problem is bigger than one person and it actually is bigger than the minority leader in the Senate. You had eight Senate Democrats who coordinated this, their own votes on this as well as you have two retiring members. Many of them were up and are also up in several cycles from now with the hope that people are going to forget this moment. And I think what's important is that we understand that this is actually, this is not just a leader is reflected as a reflection of the party and Senate Democrats have selected their leadership to represent through them. And so the question here to be bigger than just one person. We have several Senate primaries this cycle. I know I'm being asked about New York that is years from now after my, my own constituents because they think that this election is this year. We actually do have Senate elections this year. And my hope is that people across this country actually participate in their primary elections in selecting their leadership.
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Oh, she is so primary. Chuck Schumer. You know she's going to primary Chuck Schumer because she wants that spot and she's got her eyes on the prize. Got her eyes on the big prize. Easier to get there from the Senate than it is from the House. I don't know if anyone's ever become president from the House of Representatives. A lot of governors, a lot of senators, not sure any congressmen. We'll look into it. It's always a joy to watch Hakeem Jeffries fake Obama react to being a loser. His meltdown on the House floor after his party once again tripped over themselves in effort to have leverage over the Republicans, all while making the American people suffer.
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C
Fight will end only two ways, Mr. Speaker, that this fight will end. Either Republicans finally decide to extend the Affordable Care act tax credits this year or the American people will throw Republicans out of their jobs next year and end the speakership of of Donald J. Trump once and for all. That's how this fight ends. But what we've seen from Republicans from the very beginning of this presidency is a my way or the highway approach. That's been the Republican philosophy. Jam your extremism down the throats of the American people. That's what we've seen from day one of this presidency. That's the reason why the government has been shut down by Republicans and Donald Trump.
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It's fun to watch this. It's fun to watch this infighting because it was also fun to see how Democrats deal with the question as to whether or not Chucky Schumer needs to be replaced as the Senate's Democrat leader, Minority leader. Watch.
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F
I wonder if, as a result, you believe Chuck Schumer's leadership is in jeopardy and should it be?
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C
Well.
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A
As I've said, Chris, we are.
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Dealing with an irrational president.
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C
What do you think, Leader Jeffries? Do you agree with Ro Khanna?
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Do you think Schumer should be replaced?
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C
Leader Schumer did not bless this agreement. He voted against it. And of course, Senate Democrats who voted no have made that clear. And what we've seen from Senate Democrats over the last seven weeks has been part of a valiant fight that we have waged together.
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The Chuck Schumer has done a lot of bad things, but I think getting rid of him, who's going to replace him? They're mad because the government reopened. They're mad because, quote, unquote, suffering Americans are not going to suffer anymore. When it was closed though, they were saying, Trump's making all these people suffer. Now he gets it back open. But they're upset with that. Despite the suffering of Americans, Democrats, they got no remorse. As they've said many, many times before, they were happy to see Americans starve or miss flights as long as the Democrats could try to stick it to the president of the Republican Party. Really defines the Democrat Party, doesn't it? Shut down worth it? Yeah, I think so. I hate it. But yeah, it was worth it. Definitely. We got people to pay attention to the fact that this is a traumatic, in many cases, life or death situation for people all over this country.
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D
Was the shutdown worth it?
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A
I think it was because I think the perception, we made it clear that this not just the health care issue, but the whole issue, it's worth it. People suffer. It was worth it was worth. They didn't care. They don't give a crap about the American people. They don't care. It's all about politics, all about pressure, all about control. In D.C. it's never, never about constituents or voting public. They're horrible people. I just hope Republicans, if it's the other shoe on the other foot, don't play a stupid game like this. Win elections. If you lose elections, then don't play a stupid game and have American people suffer. How about this? If you shut the government down, you losers in dc, you swamp rats, you swamp scum, don't get paid while the government shot ever. Not back pay later, ever. You shut down, didn't do your job, you don't get paid. Gone. Meanwhile, it's a pleasure to see Republican Texas Congressman Brandon Gill point out the pathetic obvious, which is that the communist coalition of the dying Democrat Party has chosen to make the likes of AOC Zoran Mamdani the future of the left. And boy, Democrats really, really didn't appreciate the snark.
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D
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It was great to hear from the new leader of the democrat party, Mrs. Alexandria Ocasio Cortez. Unfortunately, we didn't also get to hear from their other leader, Mr. Zoran Mandani. Mr. Speaker, I'm going to be proud this evening to vote to reopen the federal government. Government al be in order, Mr. Speaker, for, for 40 days, the Democrats shut our government down to pursue unrealistic policy proposals that they know the American people do not want.
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They really, really didn't like it. But the, the truth is Mamdani is their leader. You had, you had aoc, you had Bernie Sanders just rubbing elbows with this guy, helping him get elect. He's a socialist, he's a communist. So the Democrats failed miserably with their Trump is starving children and killing grandma with health insurance premiums propaganda blitz. So now they're feebly trying to resurrect their Trump as an Epstein pedophile slander because they have no other solutions or ideas. Jasmine Crockett got called out on cnn of all places, for the obvious desperate attempt by Democrats with this redaction of Virginia Giuffre's.
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F
This is an email from April 2, 2011. Republicans were saying that that victim is Virginia Giuffre. As you know, she died by suicide. She's been very outspoken, a very outspoken victim of Jeffrey Epstein. Here's the email right here on your screen. She wrote a book, as you know, and she did not accuse him of any wrongdoing. What do you make of that? And can you confirm that? Yeah, I don't know. Obviously it's redacted who the victim is, so I won't necessarily tell. Take the Republicans word on who it is that's redacted. And I don't know why they would necessarily redact someone's name who is deceased at this point. The Democrats did that, though. The Democrats were. No, no, no, I, I understand, but I'm just saying, like, our biggest concern is to actually make sure that we are protecting victims.
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A
This whole Epstein thing, although I'd like to see everything released, it's all Epstein. These are smoke and mirrors because they know they got smoked in this shutdown and they're trying to Change the narrative. It's what they do. It's what they do. Wouldn't really be a day of the week without the ladies of the View choosing violence over peace based on zero facts, or let's call it knowledge. They love spreading lies and slander because they do none of the appropriate research and live in their perpetual cloud of delusion and Trump derangement syndrome. Now, the White House has not responded and the President has not been accused of any wrongdoing and denies any knowledge of Epstein's alleged crimes. But this is a lot.
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F
How many emails was it like? About 20,000 have been released this morning by the House Oversight Democrats.
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A
I have three of them right here. You know, during Watergate, the phrase came up, the COVID up is worse than the cross crime.
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F
And, and that's what the issue that I'm having here.
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A
Why all of the denial, denial, denial, denial, if you truly have nothing to do? I'm trying to figure out here, they want to point the finger at Trump and everything's saying. All the victims, they've said they didn't see Trump there, whatever. What about Bill Clinton? What about Larry Summers, who was Barack Obama's treasury secretary? What about Bill Gates, who's a lovely liberal leftist socialist? No one brings them up at the View, do they? And we know they were involved with Jeffrey Epstein. And finally, this leftist who actually ticks almost every single attribute of the raging leftist lunatics, has really had it with her own party.
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F
This is a message for the Democratic Party, specifically Schumer, Jeffries and the others in either the Senate or the House. I'm done. I'm done. I am your base. I have voted for Democrats for 40 years. I have never voted for a Republican and I have voted third party a handful of times. Only in a primary and only in a safe district for a Democrat. I am a lesbian with a black, disabled, non binary child and I worked in an abortion clinic. I am your base and I'm done.
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I'm a lesbian with the black, disabled, non binary child and I work in abortion clinic. And she's. Well, lady, if you're done with the Democrat Party, they are really screwed. All right, folks, the edge. I'm wearing the shirt because it's blowing up because of you. Thank you for subscribing and show you how in a second, Patrick Beth David, monster, monster guy, huge guy, came from Iran, Christian, living in Iran as a little kid, gets in fights when he gets here, has to work at McDonald's, has to work at a gym, ends up being a bodybuilder. Figures out a way. And that's what the edge is all about. Figuring out a way. And you can do it again. You're a man, you can do it again. It's okay to be masculine again. That's the edge. It's the edge mantra. Listen to Patrick, Ben David. But this is important. How do you go from I'm not, I want to be successful. I want to prove them wrong. But there's this party going on over here. I really enjoy it right now. How do you get your yourself back on that path? Well, I mean the prosperous path.
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C
Well, pre me going to the army, I partied six days a week, okay? And legit. I was the guy you wanted to party with. We would have a lot of fun together, right? And I was very committed to that life. And then I joined the Army.
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A
We do 40 minutes with that guy and he, he's taking his valuetainment business to stratospheric levels. Hit that QR code right there with your phone. Little yellow line comes up, I'll never charge you. It's not about that. It's not about sending anything. Just telling YouTube that we are really growing. We're growing 125% faster than other new YouTube channels, I'd say. Thank you so much at Eric Bowling the Edge on YouTube. At Eric Bowling the Edge on YouTube. Please subscribe. Thank you for your viewership. Subscribing supports this mission. It's a good one, folks. Thank you for your subscription. We'll be back. Two and a half minutes. You're looking live at a sold out San Diego stadium. Just kidding. Mad dog. What? Where the heck is your Rams? Los Angeles Rams. They didn't have any shots. Why? Because they hate me. This team might go to the super bowl against live shot then voicemails. 888-600-32. Love them. Love your voicemails, dog. You got a few for us? Roll them.
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E
I do. Viewer says stop running towards the cameras.
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G
Hey Eric, this is Wayne. How you doing today? I'm calling because of what you're talking about. MTG and her thoughts about what's going on in the country. I'm all for her having her own opinions and doing what she does. I believe in 99% of what she says. But the thing is the Democrats can use all dissension that we get going in this party and the news media to hold against us. If she's got a problem with President Trump and what he's doing, take it to him or settle it in the halls of congress. Not in Front of a TV camera. Quit running to the cameras. All of our. All of our Republicans. The Democrats love that because they turned it on us. They've been doing it for years. I've been watching it. Russian number always spoke about it. How a Republican can take a victory and lose it by doing things like this. That's my rant.
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A
So you are. You're right. Back in the days of Russia used to be a statement. Part of my vernacular here. Don't pee in the tent. Right. The Republican tent. It's just. It's what they used to say. Trump came along, though, sir, and there was a bifurcation in the Republican side. There was the old school establishment rhinos, and then there was the new America first maga, Trump, New party. And I think you still have remnants of that. And so both sides kind of push it back and forth. I. I think MTG is completely straight up maga still, of course, there's not everything that Trump does that everyone agrees with. I have the same issues. You know this. You guys get mad at me when I say I don't like tariffs or I don't like, you know, blowing narco terrorists in the. In foreign waters. They come here, kill them by. By dead in the foreign waters. It's. So I have issues. I'm still pro Trump. I'm still maga. Bannon calls me OG maga. If you get back on the horn one of these days, we can talk about it again. But we, you know, you can't just be a. She can't be a robot that just agrees with everything you allowed to have an opinion of. On certain things. I think she supports Trump unequivocally. She signed the deal to reopen the government, didn't she? I'll just leave it at that. But I do get your point. We need to coalesce, certainly around the things that we do agree on. How's that? Mad Dog? What else you got?
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D
Viewers comments on the government shutdown.
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G
Yeah, this is Jim from Pennsylvania. You know what? The shutdown's supposed to be over. Then they need to pass the registration when you can't shut the government down no more, because they use that for leverage to shut the government down when they want to do that, they need some legislators where you can't do that no more, shut the government down. They need to pass legislation to do that because it don't make sense doing that. And they need some legislators where you can't shut the government down anymore. By what I'm saying, it's a shame.
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A
I agree very Very great point. You pass a legislation. I don't know how you do that constitutionally. Maybe you can, maybe you can't. I mean, look what they did with the air traffic controllers. They said if you walk off the job, if you strike, you're going to get fired. Ronald Reagan did it. He held him to it. Not a bad idea. I still believe that. If you tell these clowns in D.C. that they're not going to be paid, and I'm not talking about not paid right now, not ever paid for the time that the government's shut down, it means you weren't working, doing your job. You're done. We probably wouldn't have any shutdowns, or if they were shut down, they'd get back to work real, real quick because they are greedy. Sobs. Mad Dog, we have time for one quick one or no.
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E
Yeah, quick.
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G
Eric, Are they required to take drug tests? The people that are running for the different government offices and stuff? I think they should.
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A
I do, too. If we have no one left there, those. Those idiots. How about an IQ test? I mean, I got to think the iq, average IQ of a congressperson or senator, both sides included, do an average, is far below the average IQ of the American people. I'm just guessing. And they're. They're 10 times greedier than the average American as well. That's what makes a magnet for those types of folks. Go to DC Have a great night. We'll see you back here tomorrow. We're going to have some fun tomorrow. We got some football, maybe get McHenry on and talk some football. Have a great night. Bannon's war room is coming up next. And, you know, get on the chat and tell them, come back.
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