Bolling! - October 30th, 2025

Summary

Real America’s Voice: Bolling! – October 30, 2025 – Episode Summary

Episode Overview

This episode of "Bolling!" on Real America’s Voice, hosted by Eric Bolling, features a deep dive into U.S. political controversies, economic turbulence, culture war talking points, and an extended interview segment with Mike Benz, Executive Director of the Foundation for Freedom Online. The host provides pointed conservative commentary on government shutdown debates, the health of the economy, critiques of Democratic policies and leaders, and explores the organization and international influence of Antifa and associated groups. The episode also includes several listener call-ins and closes with the host promoting his YouTube show and encouraging continued audience engagement.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Turmoil in the Markets & Economic Rundown (03:31-05:00)

• Eric Bolling opens with a summary of a tough day for the markets, attributing downturns to sharp losses in tech stocks, particularly Facebook/Meta, and significant crypto liquidation.
  • “NASDAQ took it on the chin… all these technology companies are spending on AI is eating into their profits, maybe too much… Bitcoin is just can’t get out of its own way as they say.” – Eric (03:31)
• Oil prices are described as the only good financial news; gold is up, crypto and equities struggle.

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2. Criticism of Democrats & Government Shutdown Strategy (05:00-10:10)

• Eric critiques Democratic leaders’ handling of impending government shutdowns and policies on SNAP benefits, asserting their main goal is political leverage over Trump.
  • “Democrats, they hate you. I mean shutdowns are terrible... House Whip Catherine Clark... they don't care if Americans starve as long as they have leverage over Trump. They’re power hungry, they’re hateful, they’re vengeful, they’re violent.” – Eric (05:11)
• Asserts Democratic leaders are prioritizing unrelated foreign funding and identity politics over U.S. citizens' needs.
  • Claims Democratic priorities include foreign aid for LGBTQ projects and climate resilience in other countries: “Why should American taxpayers pay for that?” (08:02)
• Lists controversial Democratic candidates, linking them to scandals, extremist politics, or anti-police rhetoric.

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3. Cultural Commentary: Policing, Education, and Urban Decline (10:14-13:50)

• Eric berates proposals to replace police with mental health experts and abolish gifted and talented programs in schools, framing these as symptoms of “DEI family” and socialist ideology.
  • “The Constitution does not guarantee outcomes. It guarantees equal opportunity, not equal outcomes. Get it straight, socialists.” – Eric (13:22)

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4. Wellness & Personal Health Segment (13:50-14:11)

• Promotion of The Wellness Company and its medical prep kits as part of a “Make America Healthy Again” ethos.

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5. Spotlight Interview: Tristan Ham (14:12-14:38, 56:28-57:13)

• Short feature on outdoorsman-turned-boxer Tristan Ham, discussing influencer boxing and challenges to Jake Paul.
  • “Great interview with that guy. That guy is amazing. He’s undefeated. He’s gonna be a heavyweight champion one day.” – Eric (14:38)

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6. Voter ID and Election Integrity Debates (28:42-29:51)

• Discussion of Democratic opposition to stricter voter ID requirements, with Eric calling such positions nonsensical and suggesting facial recognition as a possible solution.
  • “You need an ID to do everything now. Everything. You need an id.” – Eric (29:06)

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7. Media and Political Satire (29:51-30:19)

• References to Jimmy Kimmel and others critiquing Trump’s remarks about AOC and Jasmine Crockett, emphasizing the folly of “punching down.”
  • “Why would Trump punch down to AOC and Crockett? It would be punching way, way too down, Jimmy Moron.” – Eric (30:19)

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8. Interview: Dissecting Antifa & “Networked Activism” with Mike Benz (33:00-54:09)

Organization and Legal Structure (33:00-36:09)

• Mike Benz lays out how Antifa operates as a network of networks, with .org websites for each cell signifying organization.
  • “Every Antifa branch has a .org website... the Torch Antifa Network, the National Global Coordinator of the different Antifa cells, is a .org website.” – Mike Benz (33:30)

Funding and International Connections (36:31-37:59)

• Funding flows through NGOs and foundations like Open Society and the Tides Center, often with international and overseas sources.
  • “It’s definitely not all domestic... the funding comes through places like the Tide center, the Open Society Institute...” – Mike Benz (36:31)

Statecraft and Paramilitarism (38:37-41:54)

• Antifa and similar marginalized group activism are seen as tools both domestically and internationally, used for street agitation, color revolution work, and even in military operations like in Syria.
  • “Part of the issue here is that Antifa is not just some separate discrete bunch... but it's tied into an international influence network that does very useful things not just for major donors to the Democrat Party, but also for US statecraft, intelligence, and paramilitary work overseas.” – Mike Benz (38:37)

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9. Trans Activism, Statecraft, and Violence: Deep Dive (44:33-53:38)

Connections to Violence and State Support (44:33-49:12)

• Discussion of “Tran Tifa” (trans Antifa) and the idea that transgender activism is used as a tool by U.S. and international interests to foment unrest and revolution.
  • “The trans wrecking ball is an instrument of statecraft... In 2024... the Biden administration overthrew the democratically elected government of Bangladesh... they were organizing the trans community in Bangladesh to participate in street riots and street protests.” – Mike Benz (47:50)
• Asserts that small, high risk-tolerance groups (such as trans activists) can become effective revolutionary forces.

Mobilization Tactics and Donor Motivation (49:33-53:38)

• Framing that “only 3.5% of any target population” is needed to effect regime change; DEI coalitions are deliberately built to mobilize the fringes.
  • “You need to rally a coalition of fringes... the unemployed, youth groups... racial and religious and gendered fringes who have beef with a government...” – Mike Benz (49:33)
• Allied activism (such as Antifa groups) is linked to donor interests and portrayed as a form of “financial terrorism.”
  • “When you see Antifa in Germany stopping a Russia to Germany pipeline... Antifa is serving as a paramilitary arm of the Soros Management Fund.” – Mike Benz (52:50)
• Eric affirms Benz’s conclusions and urges more formal government listening to Benz’s analyses.

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10. Listener Calls & Engagement (58:01-61:38)

• Eric takes audience calls expressing skepticism about sharing submarine nuclear technology with South Korea and general appreciation for the show.
  • “Agree with you 100%. Our most sensitive high tech technology and nuclear submarines should be in no one’s hands except for ours, period.” – Eric (59:29)
• Several callers give shoutouts to the technical crew and share "Fake News Blues" song.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Democrats, they hate you. I mean shutdowns are terrible and of course there will be, you know, families. We take that responsibility very seriously. But it is one of the few leveraged times we have.” – Eric (05:11)
• “The Torch Antifa Network, the National Global Coordinator of the different Antifa cells, is a.org website... what is org short for? Organization.” – Mike Benz (33:30)
• “Antifa is not just some separate discrete bunch... but it’s tied into an international influence network that does very useful things not just for major donors to the Democrat Party, but also for US statecraft, intelligence and paramilitary work overseas.” – Mike Benz (38:37)
• “The trans wrecking ball is an instrument of statecraft.” – Mike Benz (47:50)
• “When you have what you see with the transgender community is a very, very, very high rate of mental instability, uncontrollable, impulsive anger. You’ve seen a predilection to violence and murder...” – Mike Benz (50:49)
• “It all fits together. Mike Benz puts it all together. It’s financial terrorism.” – Eric (53:21)

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Noteworthy Segments & Timestamps

• Market/Economic Recap & Critique of Democrats: 03:31–10:10
• NYC, Policing, Gifted Programs, and Urban Policy: 10:14–13:50
• Antifa as Networked Organization, Legal Evasion, and U.S./Global Statecraft: 33:00–41:54
• Tran Tifa, Trans Activist Mobilization, U.S. Foreign Policy: 44:33–53:38
• Listener Calls and Audience Engagement: 58:01–61:38

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Tone & Style

The episode is marked by Eric Bolling’s combative, sardonic tone, blending cultural grievances with political analysis. His interview style is energetic, direct, and often animated, amplifying guest viewpoints that align with his own. The guest, Mike Benz, provides deeply detailed, sometimes conspiratorial analysis, connecting street activism, international statecraft, and major donor interests. Calls and mailbag segments are informal, affirming, and occasionally laced with humor.

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For First Time Listeners

This episode offers a concentrated dose of Real America’s Voice’s style: anti-establishment, pro-Trump, and highly skeptical of both Democratic policies and mainstream narratives. The Benz interview is especially revealing for its in-depth exploration (and theorizing) around the networked nature of activist groups and their utility for both domestic and international power plays — all through an unfiltered, adversarial lens. Listener engagement is robust and valued, with recurring encouragement to become part of the “community” through calls, subscriptions, and shoutouts.

Transcript

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Who are likely a lot more of those folks just being, you know, pure demographics. A lot more of those, those folks on SNAP benefits are likely Democrat voters versus Republican voters. I think they will quickly find out how to get this thing through across the goal post after November 1st, very close to November 1st or a second. Absolutely. Terrence. Thank you my man.

[Mike Benz]

Good to see you brother.

[Eric]

You too. YouTube. All right folks, kind of an interesting day in the markets today. A little bit tough across the board. NASDAQ took it on the chin 378low or almost 70 lower in the S P now down 125. And a lot of that has to do with meta. Facebook last night came out with earnings and they just got slaughtered, just got wrecked. And a lot of people are worrying what the, the spend in AI. It's a massive spend that all these, these technology companies are spending on AI is eating into their profits, maybe too much. And to be honest with you, we've had a massive run up in the market over the last almost year and a half, two years and maybe a little bit of profit. Taking their gold up 35 bucks. Good news, One piece of good news here. The only piece of good news I got here right now is oil down a few cents, approaching 60 again. Unfortunately, crypto world, a mass liquidation is going on in crypto, folks. Bitcoin is just can't get out of its own way as they say. And it's a market that is just finding, trying to find a bottom right now. So bitcoin down to165. I mean we're, we're127,000 a couple like two weeks ago. So tough day in the, in the crypto markets, in the equity markets. But again, let's stay what's remain positive. Well, I've said it before and I'll say it again, Democrats, they hate you. I mean shutdowns are terrible and of course there will be, you know, families.

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That are going to suffer.

[Eric]

We take that responsibility very seriously. But it is one of the few.

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Leveraged times we have.

[Eric]

Get that out of her mouth. Democrat House Whip Catherine Clark. Her own words. They don't care if Americans starve as long as they have leverage over Trump. They're power hungry, they're hateful, they're vengeful, they're violent. They despise us all on the right, center or right. And by the way, by doing so, if you hate half the country, you basically hate America. So she admits it. Says the quiet part out loud. House Whip Catherine Clark says, either give us what we want, which is free health care for all of those, even those who are here in America illegally, or else this clown show of a shutdown continues. Work.

[Emily Maitlis / John Sopel]

So our message to the Republicans remained the same. Come to work, come to dc, sit.

[Mike Benz]

Down with us, negotiate, end this health care crisis and end this shutdown.

[Eric]

So, yeah, no kings, but do whatever we want or else we'll hold this government and this country hostage. No kings, but we can't handle not being in control. So. Well, just going to hurt Americans for a little while, just to make our point. Wink, wink. And then after saying this out loud, watch.

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[Eric]

And of course, there will be, you know, families that are going to suffer. We take that responsibility very seriously. But it is one of the few leveraged times we have no mistake. She said it right there and said it again. And by the way, watch, Lovett is.

[Emily Maitlis / John Sopel]

Looking especially at that last bit you said. They're saying the Democrats, quote, are now admitting that they are intentionally causing American families to suffer with their reckless government shutdown. What's your response to that?

[Mike Benz]

Well, that is right out of her playbook of half truths, taking things out.

[Eric]

Of context and not being straight with the American people. And she knows what I said. We exactly do know what you said. I think you said it twice. In fact, we heard what you said. You said people will suffer, and then you said, families will suffer. But leverage is more important to you, Katherine, Whip of the Democrat House. But what you hear is not what you hear, right? That's what they love to say. This is the number two House Democrat aside from Hakeem Fake Obama. Jeffries, number two is the whip. She counts the votes on the Democrat side. Very important job. Democrats hate America and they hate us. And they hate you especially, and me for being right of center. What are they fighting for? Well, they're fighting for benefits for illegals. It's exactly what this is for. Not only legals, but drug smugglers, child trafficking illegals. But they also want $4 million for LGBTQ democracy grants in America? No, in the Balkans. Why should American taxpayers pay for that? And they want $24 million for climate resilience, whatever that means. Here in America? No, in Honduras. Why should American taxpayers pay for Honduran climate resilience? They want 13 more million dollars for civic engagements. No, not in America. In Zimbabwe. Why should the American taxpayer pay for that? They shouldn't. Why should Americans pay $3 million for, I don't know, desert locust relocation in Africa? There's a challenge, challenge for the Democrats. Just for once, just one time, will they think only of Americans and what we need with our money. And I'm talking about citizens of this country, not the people that they keep referring to, which means illegals, too. Real citizens. Real American people. Americans just step back for a second and recognize the messaging the Democrat Party is sending to the real, like us American people right now. Number two, House Democrats says, screw Americans. We just want power, we want leverage, and we want control over Trump. There's a Nazi running for Senate in Maine. Oh, but he's really sorry. He has a tattoo with a Nazi imagery on it, folks. Nothing to see there. What else the Democrats have on their menu of America hating destruction? Well, let's see. They've got a gubernatorial nominee, Mike Mickey or Mikey Sheryl. I don't know how she pronounced her. Mickey. Mikey Shell, who was likely involved in Navy cheating scandal. Got that one. They've got a guy running for Attorney General in Virginia who wants to murder. He said he texted his friends. Murder his political opponents. And not just the opponent. Murder the whole family, including their kids. And a candidate for governor who condones it or certainly doesn't deny that it's a bad thing. Oh, and a socialist and terrorist sympathizer is about to take over the financial center of America, maybe the world. In New York, a guy who thinks replacing police with mental health experts, well, that might be a good idea for Gotham City. I am confident that under a Mamdani administration, we will continue to deliver on that same mission and do so while creating the Department of Community Safety to ensure that mental health experts were the ones responding to the mental health crisis.

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Because safety and justice is at the.

[Eric]

Cornerstone of our pursuit of public safety. And in doing so, we will also be able to deliver our agenda for affordability. Replace police. How does that sound to you New Yorkers? Democrats do nothing but embrace disastrous ideas that are political and policy disasters for the folks that they are supposed to represent. And yet they learn nothing. Defund the police. Remember that, boys, men Playing in girls sports. And now this communist in New York wants to abolish gifted and talented programs in city schools. Mamdani says these programs have produced radically and inequitable outcome. Inequitable outcomes. The Constitution does not guarantee outcomes. It guarantees equal opportunity, not equal outcomes. Get it straight, socialists. So if your kid is smarter and more talented than the other kids, too bad. But this is communism 101. Identity based vision of justice. It's the DEI family. This is exactly what Americans voted against in the last election. We're witnessing the slow motion death of one of our major cities, maybe our most powerful cities. And it's part of the bigger Democrat problem. It's why all of their policies and decisions are rooted in hating America and destroying this great country of ours. It's all about pleasing the loud activist far left minority. Forget everyone else. And they wonder, they wonder why their approval ratings are through the floor. Democrats should say loudly and clearly we won't let the extreme wing of the party speak for us. But they refuse to do that. And so they're no better than these extremists in their party. A Nazi with a Nazi tattoo. A governor who condones killing his opponent. Killing, murdering his opponent. A communist mayor who supports Jihad. Do something, say something, say anything against it. And one of you Democrats and one, just one of you, stand up and push back on that. Otherwise Americans have no reason to believe anything other than the fact that Democrats hate Americans and they truly hate this country and everything we stand for. A new administration in Washington D.C. has brought a lot of positive changes when it comes to fixing our broken health care system. The reality is however, that there is only so much our government can do. And that if we really, really, really want to help make America healthy again, that starts right at home with each and every one of us. And that's where the Wellness Company comes in. You see and hear from the Wellness Company doctors all the time on this network and they are amazing, amazing doctors. And you know that their products are the gold standard for keeping you and your family safe and healthy. The Wellness Company gives you the opportunity to make sure you're prepared for whatever happens with their series of prescription medical kits. These kits are amazing folks. Kits that contain an assortment of life saving medications and even more importantly maybe guidebooks to assist you in the proper use of of those medications. Additionally, the Wellness Company offers a variety of products from parasite cleanses to methylene blue to weight loss and so much more that can help you stay healthy and live a longer and more satisfying life. Make America healthy Again, starts right at home. Do your part and protect the health of you and your family. Go to www.twc health voice today in order. That's TWC Health. Slash voice. And by the way, use that promo code right there. Voice. Just type in voice when it says promo code, just hit voice and you'll save 10%. Great company. Great stuff there, folks. All right, Tristan Ham. Tristan Ham, influencer, good looking guy, outdoorsman. He rides around and you know, shirtless on horseback and he shunts bears with his bow and arrow and deer with his bow and arrow. Just an all around dude guy also now a boxer and he wants to fight Jake Paul. Watch.

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[Eric]

Mean, I'm telling you, a lot of them are phonies.

[Mike Benz]

Why is it that that Mike Petrie is the the king of violence but Tristan Ham, who's been boxing for two years, some random guy from northern Canada can drop him and completely embarrass him.

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And Australian Broadcasting Corporation's Sarah Ferguson. She's awesome. Just wasn't having it. In the first part of this clip, Kamala tries to distract from a question about Joe Biden by, of course, talking about Trump. That's what they all do. Ferguson says. Nice try, by the way. The US Mainstream media, I know you forgot, but this is what's called journalism.

[Emily Maitlis / John Sopel]

Wasn't Joe Biden then, to put it on him, Wasn't his refusal to recognize his own frailties the reason that you faced a nearly impossible task? I ran against Donald Trump for president, and Donald Trump ran on a platform that was in large part, I believe, misrepresenting his intentions to the American people. You combine that misrepresentation of intention with also what was at play in terms of massive amounts of mis and disinformation. Forgive me. And a wanted calendar in terms of the clock. I want to Interrupt you because that is a world class pivot. But it is not the question that I asked you, which is about Joe Biden's failure to recognize his own frailties and what that did to you. The question is about Joe Biden. Are you still reluctant to criticize the former president? In what regard, please? Well, just in terms of that question. So you went on. What exactly would you like to ask? Be more specific, if you don't mind. Was it Joe Biden's decision, his failure to recognize his own frailties in that position that put you in the position that made it almost impossible to win that race? He was not frail as President of the United States, but he had frailties. We all saw the debate. I do believe that Joe Biden had the capacity to be President of the United States, and I have never doubted that he had the capacity to be President of the United States.

[Eric]

Told you gonna like it. Like I said, highly enjoyable. Clearly, Kami Kamala Harris must have signed some sort of agreement. I don't know, maybe she's not allowed to tell the truth because some kind of agreement must have been made because she not only makes that ridiculous statement that Joe Biden was fit to be president and then even for another four years, which is clearly a lie, she keeps on going, which is probably in line with, with that deal she made with. I don't either the devil or the Democrat Party because they're one in the same.

[Emily Maitlis / John Sopel]

If you want to talk about whether he had the ability to endure what a race for President of the United States would require in that political environment in 2024, as I've said in the book, I had concerns. I'm just wondering, is there a reason why you won't go to that prolonged frailty question? We saw the debate. We saw the difficulty he had marshaling his thoughts. I have answered that question. I do not believe. I think it's just hard watching the debate to see how there could not be a problem long term with someone who can't marshal their thoughts. I'm not saying his acuity wasn't present. I also mentioned that in the book. And I also mentioned the context in which that debate occurred. And you'll probably remember how I talked about that in terms of what his travel schedule had been, that what he had been enduring in terms of the timing of that debate. I talk about it extensively in the book. I'm not shying away from that. That's why I wrote it in the book, because I do know it's a question people had.

[Eric]

You know, here's the problem. It takes an Australian journalist to hold her accountable for the lies that she puts up. She said the same thing when she was running for president when asked was Joe Biden capable of being president when she was running and she said the same thing. It was travel schedule. That's bs. The debate against Trump, where he got absolutely slaughtered happened 10 days after he returned from his European trip or world trip, wherever he was. And they still said he was too tired to debate 10 days later. If he's too tired to debate 10 days later, he's too tired to be president for one minute. I almost said a bad word there. Democrats have resorted to new lower lows as we've seen, calling President Trump an authoritarian, comparing him to Hitler every day, even referring to the entire Trump administration as Nazis. But now any Republican seems to be fair game to the party of violence, as Connecticut Congressman Jim Himes makes very, very clear.

[Mike Benz]

Where does it stop? Do we now start executing drug dealers on the corners of Brooklyn? Where does it stop? If all of a sudden the government, without telling anybody anything, can take this kind of lethal action just because they've decided that they've got the right to do so? If Lindsey Graham and other Republicans want to go the route of saying it's okay to kill people illegally just so long as the American public supports it, the American public needs to really think that through. You know, there will be a Democratic president someday. And all my MAGA friends who are, you know, cheering on these illegal killings need to imagine who gets killed when President Alexandria Ocasio Cortez says that it doesn't matter what the law says, she's going to do what she's going to do.

[Eric]

I'll tell you who gets killed when AOC's president. All those conservatives are going to blow our heads off because I don't want to see that either. He's basically saying if it's a Democrat president, they'll be able to kill maga. Interesting way to go, Himes, Connecticut. Good luck in reelection. Want to see a Democrat in true panic? This is really good. This is awesome. Watch Chuck Schumer doing what he's, I guess it would call damage control because he's not only flushing his entire party down that drain, the future of it over a government shutdown, but he's also doing serious damage to the country just to retain some so called leverage that they think they're getting.

[Mike Benz]

On Saturday, for the first time in American history, a vicious, heartless president is cutting off food stamps to hungry children, elderly who can't afford enough food to feed themselves. Veterans who are down on their luck, all because he wants to use them as hostages so that Democrats will stop fighting for people's health care. This president is a liar. Republicans are trying the same failed play that they tried before. Get rid of health care for American people. You're on your own. If you can't afford health care, it's your fault. That's the Republican attitude.

[Eric]

The Obamacare precursor to aca, which is what we have right now, was written by Democrats. Every single republic, every single Republican voted against it. It's their policy. It's their program. And it was set to expire these, these payout payments that the Democrats are fighting about right now. They wrote it into the law to expire this year, next month or beginning of November, next week. Their idea, their policy. We didn't want any part of it. Now they want to blame Trump for a government shutdown that they brought upon the country on their own. Another Democrat who's failed the American people over and over again. Well, Bernie Sanders, right, fighting the oligarchy from really on high. Right. On a private jet with AOC flying around the country, privately against the oligarchy. Bernie, who's responsible for keeping the shutdown going, is still deflecting, of course, to the president. We are here today. Obey the law. I know that's a hard concept for the president, but. But obey the law. Do what Congress mandated you do. Do not let children in America and their parents and grandchildren go hungry. Do not go down as the first president in history to manufacture a hunger crisis again. Bernie was there. Bernie was there when they wrote the law. It's on you, Bernie. Stop blaming Trump. You know what I say? I said, let it expire. Sorry. It's going to be tough for a lot of people. I get it. It's going to be tough. But the minute that the 1.8 million people on food stamps, EBT cards, when that runs out, I'm going to go and venture a guess that a lot of those folks are Democrat voters and they're going to say to their elected officials, open the damn government. We need our EBT cards. Hold the line. Trump. Democrat Abigail Spanberger, disaster of a candidate for a Virginia governor, seems to think that forcing people just to show an id, just show an ID in order to exercise their Democratic right to vote as citizens of this country, will somehow stop them from wanting to do just that.

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[Eric]

One of the dumbest policies that the Democrats are, are putting their weight in force behind not only letting illegals ransack the country, but using an ID to vote. You need an ID to do everything now. Everything. You need an id. You know what? Get facial recognition. How's that? You want that? I'm a libertarian. I hate this idea. But they'll solve all the problems. You don't need an ID because we'll just use your face and see what happens. See how many Democrat potential Democrat votes get thrown out because they're not here legally. One more late night hack, Jimmy Kimmel, actually thinks that the likes of aoc, Jasmine Crockett, two of the least qualified politicians around right now, would fare well against President Trump in a televised IQ duel. Proving yet again that he's a shill for the Democrat party.

[Mike Benz]

For whatever reason, Fat Albert Einstein has been boasting that he would crush two House Democrats. Two he does not like AOC and Jasmine Crockett, both of whom he deems to be low IQ in an IQ test. And so I quite generously, I think, offered to host a competition between them. Ratings.

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[Mike Benz]

Think of the.

[Eric]

They will be huge.

[Mike Benz]

They'll be bigger than the night I came back after you tried to have me canceled.

[Eric]

Yeah, yeah. There's no reason to do that. In TV you say don't punch down. This is what we do when someone from a lower network or just come trying to aspire to get to attention, starts yapping like Kimmel's doing about AOC and Crockett. You don't punch down, it's not worth your time. There's no, there's no upside in it. You can only lose. And why would Trump punch down to AOC and Crockett? It would be punching way, way too down, Jimmy Moron. All right, I almost said it twice. We'll be back. Two and a half minutes.

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[Eric]

So Antifa claims they're not a network but just a random group of people fighting for fascism. Joining us now to discuss is the executive director of the foundation for Freedom Online, Mr. Mike Bentz. Good to have you back Ben. It's really, really good to have you back. The chat lights up every time you're on. They love hearing your, your your your your ideas and your thoughts on some of these things. So Antifa not an international network because they say they don't have a headquarters so therefore they're not a network. What do you know? That's let's, let's shed some light on this nonsense.

[Mike Benz]

Well this is ridiculous. Every Antifa branch has a.org website. I know I've said this many times, but it bears repeating. The Torch Antifa Network the National Global Coordinator of the different Antifa cells is a.org website. Rose City Antifa, the Portland Antifa community website is a.org website. The Seattle Antifa cell has a.org website. I mean Eric, what is org short for organization?

[Eric]

Organized Organized crime, Organized labor Organized Everything bad that the country is trying to move away from. Go ahead. I'm sorry.

[Mike Benz]

Yes, yes. You know, if, if someone breaks into my home, if I'm being sued by, you know, the SPLC or the ADL or something. This is not an idea. It's an organization that's coming after me. These are intensely organized cells that operate in what they refer to as a network of networks now. But this, the thing that I've been banging on about with, with Antifa is this is the exact way our covert operations are structured. During Operation gladio in the 20th century, the right wing anti communist cells organized by the Central intelligence agency and NATO's political action arm used decentralized cluster cells in every country. And so each one, if one got busted, the others would remain. And it also, for legal reasons is important to structure things this way. If folks remember the Proud Boys after they defended themselves from an antifa attack in New York, I think this is in 2019, they were put on trial by the New York State Attorney General who tried to. Basically tried to argue they were an organized gang and therefore you could hit them with RICO type charges, racketeering and the like. And Gavin McGinnis at that point stepped down from leading the Proud Boys in order to effectively for the, for it to not be arguable in court that they had a top down leadership structure. And so therefore they couldn't pursue these kind of RICO charges because it was not centrally controlled. There's lots of reasons to deliberately structure things this way. I should note even CIA cutouts like the national down for Democracy use what they refer to as a network of networks structure for their world.

[Eric]

I don't mean to interrupt it just so they can shield themselves from any sort of RICO litigation.

[Mike Benz]

Yes, this is, this is a legal strategy. Literally this happened with the Proud Boys like six years ago at this point. But before you know the funding these guys.

[Eric]

Okay, so you don't have an organization top down, but you're well organized. Who, Who. Where's the. Funny we always say Soros. We pointed Soros. Was it code blue? Where's the funding coming from and is it all domestic?

[Mike Benz]

Oh, it's definitely not all domestic there. The, the funding comes through places like the Tide center, the Open Society Institute. There is this Bjorg with Swiss billionaire who pours money into these foundations that then pass through. I posted this before, but there's an Antifa blog, very influential. It's called Crime Think. There's a great name, you know, for, for the. If a right wing group were to call themselves Crime Think you know how fast the Merrick Garland Justice Department would subpoena every single communication and every IP address that ever logged onto that website. But there's an Antifa website called Crimethink. And when Trump announced that he was going to do this executive order on Antifa and declaring them a, you know, international terrorist organization, they were strategizing on crime. Think about how they thought the Trump admin would go about it. And they had different concerns for two different strategies. One was the bottom up sell by sell method. But then they said or Trump could go after us in a top down fashion by targeting what they called massive liberal foundations. And these are these type of foundations that I was just describing, like the Tides foundation, the Open Society foundation and the like which have, which fund many initiatives. Not just Antifa, but Antifa is a something they can turn on or turn off. It's kind of like conflation.

[Eric]

Allow me to just commingled funds. I'm just thinking about when we're talking about this, I'm trying to figure out how we've gone from a time where groups, organizations like this, when they were discovered, they were hauled up in front of Congress and if they felt, if Congress felt that they were undermining the integrity of the country, they'd be disband or more or jailed, imprisoned or sent, sent away. How are we now in a situation where these people who are clearly destabilizing the country in our cities and their methods and we somehow are afraid to what offend some groups and doing some. I mean I'm not suggesting Joe McCarthy and everyone's a communist, but something in between the two.

[Mike Benz]

I my personal opinion on this, based on my time in the research in this and just a mapping of the network nodes that have organized the resistance against Trump at home for the past decade is that part of the issue here is that Antifa is not just some separate discrete bunch of scrappy drug dealers, meth heads, sexually confused people and college professors, but it's tied into an international influence network that does very useful things not just for major donors to the Democrat Party, but also for US statecraft, intelligence and paramilitary work overseas. And I'll run through for what though?

[Eric]

For what end? To what end? What is that? The stables. So that how did these folks benefit?

[Mike Benz]

Well, we can go country by country. During the Obama administration, the largest CIA operation of all time, Operation Timber Sycamore, which was from 2011 to early 2017, was the over a billion dollars in CIA funding to effectively ISIS and Al Qaeda groups that were called moderate rebels at that time, a major Antifa cell was, according to Rolling Stone, the closest, closest partner of the US Military on the ground. You can actually look up the Syria, the Syrian Antifa platoons. They were working directly with the US Military, US Intelligence and the US Statecraft apparatus in order to unseat Bashar Al Assad from the head of state of Syria. That was an operation that was eventually successful in December of 2024 during the lame duck period. I personally think that that was done because they were concerned Trump would not unload all the forces if when he came to power in January. But they, but the fact is, is Antifa was an addendum of U.S. intelligence and military in Syria. Look at what's happening in Germany. We blew up the Nord Stream pipeline. No one should fool themselves for one flat second about what happened there. It was a Ukrainian diving team. Poland just refused to extradite the, the all the suspects in the case that Germany has been investigating, saying that if they blew it up, it wasn't a crime. The fact is, the Ukrainian diving team, according to the New York Times publications, the CIA had advanced notice of this intent to do it. And according to, according to that story, the CIA told them not to do it, but they did it anyway. No one believes that for a second. The CIA completely controlled Ukrainian intelligence. The New York Times reported that on day one after the Maidan coup in 2014, the first phone call the new Ukrainian intelligence made was to the local CIA station chief and to the local head of MI6. The fact is, is we blew up that Nordstrom pipeline and who has been going against the AfD party and the folks wanting to restore the Nord Stream pipeline in Germany? It's Antifa on the ground in Germany doing exactly what the Biden, Obama State Department has wanted them to do. Breaking up their meetings, doxing people in, doing anarcho tyranny. It's the same thing in France to stop Marine Le Pen, the Trump ally there.

[Eric]

Do me a favor, Mike. Spain, let's do this. Let's just. Will you stay there, stick around for another, another second? Because I really want to get into. There's something that's also kind of bubbling up right now and I'm talking to a lot of folks and they're, they're talking Trans Tifa and we're Trans Tifa or Trans Tifa, which would be the, the trans community's version of Antifa and whether they're somehow involved in the murder assassination of Charlie Kirk. I want to get into that in the next break. Will you Stick around.

[Mike Benz]

Yes.

[Eric]

Cool. All right, we'll be right back. Two and a half.

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[Eric]

We're back with the executive director of the foundation for Freedom Online. Honestly, the great Mike Benz. Mike, you put these things together so we can really understand so many moving parts of this. So I brought it up before the break that there's more and more. There's some talk about Tran Tifa Trans Tifa maybe being the group or a group behind the assassination of Charlie Kirk. We know that we believe the alleged shooter Robinson, not going to use his first name, was dating a trans they them, whatever heck they are or whatever it is. What do you know and is this, is this, is there another group that's not an organization? Organization not top down. Are they for. For real?

[Mike Benz]

Well, there are three things around this that are useful to keep in mind. The first, the facts are still developing on this. We know that the. The feds. The FBI has reportedly a month ago widened their investigation to include basically an investigation into a group called Armed Queers Salt Lake City because of apparently I believe the. There were discord messages and Steam group forums. These are like video game and online forum platforms that appeared to potentially show foreknowledge and kind of network connections between the Charlie Kirk shooter, potentially his boyfriend as well as this network and this Armed Queers SLC is also a militant LGBT gun group which once again as we were talking about the previous segment is intensely connected to the international blob foreign policy establishment network. The head of Salt Armed Queers Salt Lake City. This, this woman whose name is. It's kind of hard to pronounce so if you just give me a second. It's Armaya Finance who was a male to female trans person running Armed Armed Queers Salt Lake City received a set of awards from Utah Global Diplomacy which is funded. The majority of its funding comes directly from the U. S. State Department so it's effectively the US State Department granting awards and influence to the head of the Salt Lake City Armed Queers group which had on its blazers to recruit people messages that effectively the revolution will not be voted in with a picture of guns. I mean this is the sort of Fed posting that if a second second amendment right wing group did insinuating accused.

[Eric]

Use violence not your vote right that.

[Mike Benz]

We can't draw way to power trans.

[Eric]

Queer armed trans queer paramilitary group doesn't sounds. Sounds very scary to me. It should sound very scary to any law abiding citizen. Is there being nothing done to. To investigate this like I'm you know is Cash or Cash Pam Bondi, Cash Patel, Pam Bonnie and Tulsa Gabbard frankly all hands on deck for this because we think they should be.

[Mike Benz]

I think to understand this you need to go into the USAID files and the State Department files and the CIA files and the US Institute of Peace files to understand what's happening with the trans component of lgbt. This to me is not driven by WOKE ideology manifests as such. And at the margins there are certainly the WOKE fanatics. But the trans wrecking ball is an instrument of statecraft. It is a. When we organize revolutions and I give this example all the time but it bears repeating in 2024 when the Biden administration overthrew the democratically elected government of Bangladesh. The democratically elected prime minister was ousted from power and had to flee because of street mobs organized by the U.S. government under the Biden administration by the U.S. state Department, USAID and the National down for Democracy. The IRI, the Republican wing of the national down for Democracy, a CIA cutout, reported in leaked documents back to the State Department that they were organizing the trans community in Bangladesh to participate in street riots and street protests and that they were specifically funding transgender dance festivals, transgender community organizing activities in order to accomplish that fact.

[Eric]

I've stopped you a couple times. You're so smart. I'm trying to figure out how in the hell. It's very, very well believed and well researched that the trans population is about 1 1/2% of the national population. How do they have so much influence and so much power and so much, frankly, firepower?

[Mike Benz]

Because what Color revolution planners say is you only need 3.5% of any target population to take to the streets and it can successfully overthrow any government. You need to get to that 3.5% figure, which means you need to rally a coalition of fringes. The unemployed people, the youth groups, the students, the union members, the racial and religious and gendered fringes who have beef with a government that does not represent them. This is why you have this kind of DEI framework that is exported for community organizing work in order to topple governments. And you will even see republican support for it. In that Bangladesh example, that was the republican wing of the national down for Democracy organizing funding transgender dance festivals because the transgender community was upset at Sheikh Hassan, the Prime Minister of Bangladesh. These are pawns. These are instruments of statecraft. And what you want are high risk tolerance, people with little to lose who are willing to throw their body in the form of mobs into the street against police. And when you have what you see with the transgender community is a very, very, very high rate of mental instability, uncontrollable, impulsive anger. You've seen a predilection to violence and murder. How many of the past murders of high profile murders or school shootings or church shootings just this year happened? I put a compilation video together of about a dozen of almost all of the major high profile shootings this year had some trend, you know, trans adjacency to it. But this is useful what you do when you are trying to influence the course of domestic politics in a foreign country. And you can't control the top down levers of the government, so you need to rely on civil society encirclement. You want radicals, you want crazies, you want criminals, you want mentally unstable people. Also people who a little bit of money goes a long way. They are dependent on your civil society services for their medical dilation and medical surgeries. People who are, you know, tied to this State Department funded apparatus and will do favors for favors. People who have an intrinsic hate for a state that is heteronormative and does not represent them in their own eyes. Those people are easy to mobilize. They have a high risk tolerance. They're willing to do the confrontational, invasive and often illegal activities that are necessary to break the camel's back when you are trying to topple the government in a street revolution. And so all of these programs need to be ripped up and torn up that are providing support to transgender clinics or art. You know, a lot of this is laundered through the culture and arts space, the community organizing space, sometimes the union space. But you have to understand that this is not just coming from wokeness. This is coming from a State Department goal in a region which usually is done for the service of a donor to a political apparatus. For example, George Soros is invested in NAFTA gas in Ukraine and therefore depends on cutting Russia out of the market.

[Eric]

Right.

[Mike Benz]

So when you see Antifa in Germany stopping a Russia to Germany pipeline that cuts NAFTA gas profits out of it, then Antifa is serving as a paramilitary arm of the Soros Management Fund. When you see Antifa breaking up, you know, fossil fuel and stop oil. And you see George Soros invested in ethanol fuel replacement technologies that rely on a government mandate to ban oil or fossil fuels.

[Eric]

Financial terrorists, when they're doing that, financial.

[Mike Benz]

Terrorist George source invest in AstraZeneca and you see Antiphobia breaking up anti vax meetings. They're serving as the paramilitary arm of Pfizer and AstraZeneca and you see George Soros them included in the portfolios of the source management.

[Eric]

It all all fits together. Mike Benz puts it all together. It's financial terrorism. Mike, I was going to ask you. I literally ran out of time. But if I was asking if you work for the US government, I'm hoping you would say yes. And if you don't, why the hell don't you? Because they really need to hear what you have to say. I'm sure they do, but maybe it could be more formal. You don't have to answer that. You can always go to Mike Benson's web pages. He's online, everywhere. He's the Executive Director for Foundation for Freedom Online. Find him everywhere. He is one of the most brilliant people that we have on the show. Mike, appreciate your time.

[Mike Benz]

Thanks Eric. Happy Halloween.

[Eric]

That's so true too. All right folks, we'll be back two and a half minutes.

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[Eric]

So I asked this guy Tristan Ham, who's an upcoming heavyweight boxer, also influencer, just all around great, great, great dude. If you thought Mike Tyson Jake Paul fight was legit, which I guess Jake Paul very very fascinating answer to that. I can't give you that. I'll let you watch this though in.

[Mike Benz]

The meantime and I see there's a lot of bull going on and I cannot believe that these master bulk artists like, you know, unfortunately Jake Paul and.

[Eric]

A lot of these other influencers out.

[Mike Benz]

There, I mean, I'm telling you, a.

[Eric]

Lot of them are phone is why.

[Mike Benz]

Is it that, that Mike Petrie is the, the king of violence but Tristan Ham who's been boxing for two years, some random guy from northern Canada can drop him and completely embarrass him.

[Eric]

Only boxing two years, he's already making been offered million dollar deals to come box people. He's, he's got his eyes set on, on Jake Paul. It's going to be amazing. It's a great interview. It's dropped just this morning. So go to put your camera on that QR code right there. Get a little yellow line. Just press that. You'll automatically subscribe, never be charged a penny. And I just want to tell you guys, you right here, this audience right here is making that show an Absolute winner. Top 1/10 of 1% of all new YouTube shows. Again, we're YouTube.com Eric Bowling the Edge. YouTube.com Eric Bowling the Edge. Thank you for your support. Thank you for your subscription as well. Means a lot to me. Means a lot to the group and to the team. Ben, Ben's on Voice of God today. Ben, we got some time for some voicemails. What do you got? We do, we have a viewer who has some choice words for Hakeem Jeffries. Yeah, and why don't you play my comment that I just made about Hakeem Jeffries. It's real common sense crap. They need to, you know, people need to wake up. You don't throw good money after bad. You fix the system, follow the root cause of the problem.

[Mike Benz]

And throwing government money at a bad.

[Eric]

System just makes it worse. That's why we have illegals in our country. That's why we have a bad health care system. It's real common sense. This needs to go. Hawking's Jeffries hostage taker Anyways, you can play my last one. I didn't cuss too much on it. All right, Ben, Eric, you guys have a great day. This is Jim Show Cal, take care. I'm sure you know my voice by now.

[Mike Benz]

Bye.

[Eric]

Listen, I love hearing your voice. Keep, keep them coming at so many. You guys are amazing. And Ben, you got a shout out from, from Cal. I didn't hear that the first time around. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right though, Sir. You are 100% right. The Democrats are hostage takers. They know they got the, they just got to move five votes over at least in the Senate. Side to get this thing pushed through. They refuse to do it. But wait till their constituency, which is highly democratic on EBT cards, when their cards run out and they go to the store to buy whatever the stuff they're going to buy. High end, pricey stuff, which I think they shouldn't be allowed to do. Another story, another time when it's when their card is empty and they're going to call, hey, Hakeem, open the damn government. Ben, what do you got? We have a viewer who's concerned about.

[Mike Benz]

Giving submarine tech to South Korea.

[Eric]

Hey, Eric, my name is Ray from Alabama. First time caller. Love your show. Hey, just questioning our agreements with South Korea. We're going to transfer submarine nuclear technology to the government of South Korea. I don't know what the hell we're thinking there. It's some of those sensitive technology we have. And with the closely aligned leadership of the South Korean government, currently that technology is simply going to be transferred to China. What the heck are we thinking here? All right, looking forward to your comment. You are so right. You are so right. Not only China, but South Korea recently, over the last couple of years, has been moving a little bit away from America. South Korea is independent, democratic because of America. We got 50,000 troops on the northern side of the South Korean North Korea border, making sure that the North Korean little rocket man doesn't come and take the whole island. Agree with you 100%. Our most sensitive high tech technology and nuclear submarines should be in no one's hands except for ours, period. Not even our good friends in Israel. No one should have our high tech, submarine technology and others. Ben, we have a viewer who's given us a shout out. Your whole boiling great show, you know, great show. And I think it's all due to your technical staff. I mean, great commentary and stuff. Yes, you have the talent, but these guys behind you are doing a great job. And a couple days ago you said that the musician could do like, you know, send in a song, right? I'm gonna hope, I'm gonna pray that this works. And here we go. Here we go. Fake news, blues, fake news. Lose. Shout out to the staff, to the control room, take the control room shot. Can we take that? There they are. What's up? You guys got a shout. You guys are the best. We always say that. That's why when, listen, I get it. Trump comes on, we gotta do it. But you guys, we put together this amazing show. I just have one question. The boss man over here is named Rob Sig. Was that you, Rob? Was that your voicemail, you said. And they shout out your control room. Mine was.

[Mike Benz]

And I also shouted out the edge. I told everybody to get the edge.

[Eric]

Get the edge. I knew. I see. I knew it. I knew it and I. You know what? He's right. The best crew. I've worked at Fox, I've worked at Newsmax, the crew here, bar none better than all of them. All of them. Really, really great group. Love it. Love you guys. Keep it on Rav. Top to bottom. Wake up in the morning. Keep it there all the way to you. Go to bed. I'll be back here tomorrow. War room is coming up.

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[Eric]

I'm Rodney Williams.

[Mike Benz]

And I'm Travis Holloway. Welcome to the wealthbreak Podcast, a real conversation about finance. Let's be honest, building WEFT doesn't look.

[Eric]

The same for everyone. I feel like sometimes being broke is a cycle and that we might have to revisit that.

[Mike Benz]

And we're not stopping at success stories.

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What happens when it doesn't go right? How do you cope with it?

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Because wealth isn't just about money.

[Eric]

It's about creating a life where you.

[Mike Benz]

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[Eric]

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