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This is an iHeart podcast. Graduate student at Portland State, studying political science. I was an editor at the student paper there, a very progressive paper, and I was assigned to cover the election night demonstrations. Well, the elections night protests turned to riots. Three days of violent rioting in Portland and it was the first time that I saw groups dressed in black with their faces covered. This is four years before coming Covid. Some of them were waving the black flag of anarchism, some the red flag of Marxism. And within seconds they would ravage one street to another, to another, to another. And the next day I would read the Legacy media, which I still read at that time and looked forward to who. And I looked up to those journalists and I was really shocked to see that the narrative was that these, in my view, anti democratic political violence was legitimate acts of protests because people were. They were concerned about racism or all these other lies. And so for the next four years, I just continued going out with my video camera. I thought, look, people can ignore what I write because of spin, but videos can quite speak for themselves. And in 2019, it led to me nearly losing my life. I was covering another antifa protest turned right at that point had been routine in Portland. And then I was ambushed in a. In a mob meeting. And I had never been in a fight. I didn't even realize that I was being assaulted until seconds in. And the punches came from everywhere on my head and my face, and I was bleeding out of my eyes and ears. And then they threw all the drinks in my eyes to humiliate me further and to laugh at me. And I was rushed to the hospital in a ambulance and CT scan, and I had subarachnoid hemorrhage which is bleeding the brain, and nearly died. And after surviving that, the reporting that I saw in liberal media was, it seemed to suggest that I had deserved it because they branded me far right. And some even went so far as to suggest that I may maybe faked my injuries. A BuzzFeed reporter asked for my medical records, which I did provide, but this felt so it's like, because I didn't die in that attack, there was another round of people who wanted to finish me off, but I continued. And then 2020, Portland was really the epicenter of the longest political violence, those months of riots. I was on the ground undercover, and there was an assassination there. There was a supporter of Donald Trump named Aaron Danielson who was shot dead by a self described antifa member who then fled out of state and died in a shootout with U.S. marshals in 2021, I returned undercover, naively thinking that enough time had passed and was chased through the streets of downtown and beaten, nearly choked out. The person who was trying to choke me out helped me so tightly that I had the blood, the vessels in my eyes burn after that and I was hospitalized. So thank you so much for acknowledging Antifa and for directing your administration to treat the them as domestic terrorists. It's going to be really challenging because how they organize is that they are decentralized, autonomous, and they operate on deception. And we're still to this day told that they don't exist, that it's a figment of our imagination. I think the DOJ could look at federal conspiracy charges. The state of California in San Diego county last year broke up an antifa cell in San Diego. And I think maybe perhaps the State department should designate Antifa, its international arm, as a foreign terrorist organization. FTO so thank you so much for this invitation, Mr. President.
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B
Thank you very much, Andy. Great. It's a rough time you had. So the choke out was almost the end you felt?
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A
Yeah, that was my only near death experience in my life and I'm quite shaken when I think about it now. It really feels unbelievable to me that on the streets of America that this type of violence against citizens could become so routine and accepted and cheered on by people. Although in the immediate aftermath of Mr. Kirk's assassination, we saw again that type of depravity play out on quite large spots of the left.
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B
So.
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There'S a deep sickness in this country right now and it pays me a lot to acknowledge it.
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B
Yeah, the amazing thing is you look at Portland and you see fires all over the place. You see fights and I mean, just violence. It's just so crazy. And then you talk to the governor and she acts like everything is totally normal, there's nothing wrong. It's almost like, are you waking up from a dream or something? You see it on your network, you see it all over the place and it's so bad, it's so crazy. It's like the movies you see for the kids, I guess. Not only the kids, adults also, where you have these bombed out cities and these bombed out people. It's like worse than that. I don't think they could make a movie as bad. And then the governor will get up and say, I don't know why they're coming here. It's such a wonderful place. And the amazing thing is the people want us to be there. The people, when they get the real people that live there, many of them have left. But the real people want us to be the same thing in Chicago. So they've had 60, 70 murders over a short period of time. Murders, people that got shot. They've had hundreds of people shot. And then a guy like Pritzker or this low IQ mayor gets up. I mean, he got up. He's got a 5% approval rating and the people are all against him. They want people to come. Beautiful black women are wearing a MAGA hat last night on television. Beautiful people. And they once I said, we don't care who comes. Just stop the crime. They don't care, frankly. They don't care if it's National Guard and military, send in anybody you want, stop the crime. And they're afraid to go out. They can't even go out. And then a guy like Pritzker. Think of that. 50, 60, 70 people over a short period of murdered, actually murdered. Mostly gun violence, but knives, but gun violence. They're murdered and hundreds of people shot. They had one weekend where they had like 18 murdered and 71 shot. But they said, you know what their excuses. Yeah, but it was a long weekend. In other words, it was a long weekend. So that was okay. And then Pritzker gets up and he says, like, I don't know what they're talking about. We don't have crime here. They're crazy. I think actually they're petrified. You know, their families live there. Everything else. I actually think they're scared. Pritzker was a failure in his family. They threw him out of the family business. Guy's a loser. But you know what? They actually. I believe they're scared. They're actually frightened for their lives. Jack, please say a few words.
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A
Mr. President, thank you so much for having us here today and holding this roundtable. Antifa is real. Antifa has been around in various iterations for almost 100 years, in some instances going back to the Weimar Republic in Germany. And it's now been just under one month since we saw a far leftist murder Charlie Kirk. And we saw thousands upon thousands of people, other far leftists and people in positions of authority, people like nurses and pilots and doctors and HR departments, celebrating the death and the murder of Charlie Kirk. This sickness that's out there is absolutely real. And Mr. President, thank you for mentioning the fact that one of the bullet casings read. Hey, fascist, catch on it. One of the other bullet casings right next to that had Bella Chow written on it. Now, Bella Chow is a song that is known in antifa circles as the international anthem of antifa. And all of us around this room that have studied antifa, we're very familiar with these symbols. And Mr. President, I think the situation is getting worse. When you look at people like Luigi Maggione in his 20s, Thomas Matthew Crooks, of course, who took a shot at you, sir, the ice shooter in Dallas, and now this Tyler Robinson, we're starting to see a pattern of more and more murderous violence. And this same violence is not just random, it is targeted assassinations which are getting worse. And every single one of us in this room that goes out there, and obviously you as well, sir, and all the staff, we are now under that threat every single day and working there at Turning Point usa. And I've spent just about the last month out there in Phoenix with Erica, with the family, with the team. And I will tell you this, Mr. President, even though going through something like that, which is an absolute nightmare, and people say, what was it like to speak in front of all those people? It was horrible. Every second of it was horrible. But we're not going to quit. And Turning Point USA is continuing the tour that Charlie was on. We had 6,000 people when we went back to Utah. We had 5,000 people last night in Montana, if you can believe that. We are continuing to organize on campus. We are getting more and more people coming out in the face of this threat, knowing what happened to Charlie. But, Mr. President, we need to do something about this because I fear that the next one who could be killed could be sitting at this table right now. And we're not going to stop. But they need to stop. And they will not stop until they are stopped.
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B
Thank you. Thank you, Jack. I appreciate it very much. One thing I have to say is that Washington D.C. was almost as bad. I don't know what could be worse than Portland. You don't even have sewers anymore. They. They don't even put glass up. They put plywood on their windows. But most of the retailers have left. But Washington D.C. was so bad. And Pam, I'd say it took 12 days to really make it pretty good and a month to make it great. And now people are going out to dinner. The restaurants are booming. They don't have enough seats. They're opening up new restaurants because many of them closed. And people are walking down the street totally safe. Reporter. A reporter. I'm not sure if she's there. I can't see. Somebody reported. There she is. She was violently assaulted. And I don't know. She tends to be somewhat liberal, but she wasn't liberal of this one. I appreciated your honesty, but you won't. That won't happen again. It won't happen again. You're lucky you're alive. Frankly, with what happened, I know exactly what took place. So Washington D.C. our capital. We thought we'd start there appropriately, and it's safe. And people are so happy. They're so happy. And now it's a couple of months. I went to dinner there. I felt totally safe. I gave a press conference right in the middle of the street, which I don't think Secret Service was thrilled about. But, you know, I'll tell you what, I wouldn't have wanted to do it six months ago. It's incredible what happened. Now we're in Memphis. As you know, we're having a great impact in Memphis. It's been only a week, but it's Cash. I hear it's been amazing what's happening there. Just very early, but you take a look at D.C. and you take a look at some of the other. We've had a big impact. What we haven't said because Pritchka said, well, crime is going down in Chicago. Well, five months ago, Cash went to Chicago with a lot of FBI agents just to prepare it so that we went in with, I guess you could call it a surge, call it whatever you want, but would be even more effective. And we're going to be doing that, and very, very strongly doing that, because Chicago is a very unsafe city. It's a great city. The head of the Union Pacific Railroad said, sir, please save Chicago. It's a great city. It can be saved. Other cities are gone. I mean, they're lost. They can get better, but they're just really. They've been so decimated. But I'm so proud of what they've done so quickly in D.C. and it's taking place quickly in Memphis, where we were asked to go by the mayor and by the governor. And it's really incredible what we can do and how fast we can do it. And let's go for two more. Would you like to go? And then, Katie, you'll go?
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A
Okay.
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B
Please, yeah.
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A
Thank you, Mr. President, for having us here. And, you know, not to sound like a broken record, but it needs to be said that Antifa is real. It's real. It's a threat. I just saw him last weekend over in Portland while they're causing mayhem over there. And the reason why there's such a big problem is because we have Democrats and a lot of people in the mainstream media refusing to acknowledge that they even exist. Right so how can we as a country begin to address it? And when you have large swaths of these people who are supposedly decision makers and people who are supposed to inform, they don't want to say that it exists because the common argument is, well, they're not a real organization because there's no national leadership. They don't have a national headquarters. So how can law enforcement go after a group that doesn't exist like that? Well, law enforcement goes after criminal groups that organize to rob banks or do smash and grabs. They don't have a registered llc, they don't have official membership cards, they don't have a business address. But law enforcement still goes after them because they're working as a group. These people don't just show up randomly at the same time to do the same thing, dressed in a very similar fashion, espousing the same ideology. And they say, well, it's an ideology. It's like, well, yes, it's an ideology because there's people alive present that believe in it and they're acting on it. And so I've been very well aware of what Antifa has been doing. I was very busy during the riots in 2020. That was probably my most exposure to them prior to this year. You know, I've been, I've been at the ICE facility at Broadview. I'm originally from the Chicagoland area, unfortunately, but that's where I, that's where I grew up, around. Like I said, I was in Portland, I was covering the riots in Los Angeles as well. And probably one of the most disturbing parts about that is in addition to Antifa being present, they were tagging the streets with cjng, which is cartel, Jalisco Nuevo Hernacion, which is a cartel. So you have these people who are working basically in concert with other terrorist groups to say that we're here, we're president, and we're going to attack federal agents and people who are going to expose what we do. And so to be clear, political violence, sustained political violence that we're seeing in this country is not a both sides issue. I was, you know, I was at Charlie Kirk's memorial in Glendale recently. Conservative gathering, totally peaceful. It was the most peaceful gathering that I've been at every other time that I've been covering violence in the streets. Just this year, you know, forgetting. Just this year. It's always been forgotten from left wing people, radical left wing people. And it's not even just Antifa anymore. The shooting that happened in, the defensive shooting that happened in the Chicago area, that Wasn't someone dressed in black block, that was just somebody that had taken upon themselves to go out and try to interfere and ram federal vehicles. So people are becoming more and more radicalized, and it was to be expected, unfortunately. And the reason why we're in this position today is because after I was done covering the riots, I was at the border from the San Diego sector all the way down to the Rio Grande Valley sector, covering the border crisis month after month. And we all knew the solution to that. We all knew why it was happening. It's because, well, it's racist to have a border. It's like, well, actually it's not, but okay. And so it required you to come back into office and to fix the problem. But it's no longer just a border issue. It's a nationwide issue. And that's one of the reasons why you got elected back into office, because thankfully, the American people said, we're not going to deal with it anymore. But unfortunately, there's a lot of people, as we've seen, who are willing to take to the streets to do violence. And that's a scary thing because typically when I was in 2020, I was covering Minneapolis, Los Angeles, Portland, Seattle, I was over in Chaz, and that was to be expected. But now, because the issue of immigration, illegal immigration, is so widespread, riots can happen anywhere. Attacks can happen anywhere. So that's why it was weird kind of going back to my home state to cover this violence. I mean, just after the Dallas shooting, they were chanting outside Broadview, shoot ice. You know, shoot those, you know, efforts. Shoot those efforts. So I'll just. I'll just. I'll just leave that. Thank you so much again for. For having this. You know, this. This. This is very dangerous. You know, we don't work for companies that have billions of dollars. You know, we were running and gunning often on our own. A lot we became friends. A lot of us are friends because we would see each other all the time. And we became friends because we wanted to have back while we're out there, because we're. Like I said, we're. We're just out there and. But we'll continue to do it because it's an important topic. It's an important issue. The American people deserve to know what's happening in these chaotic situations. And, you know, we're more than happy to do it. So thank you, sir.
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B
Great job. Thank you very much. Katie, please.
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C
Hi, Mr. President. It is an honor being here today, and I first wanted to start by thanking you guys for designating Antifa, a terrorist group is exactly what this group is, and it's a long time coming. I'm an investigative journalist from Seattle. I work for the Post Millennial alongside Andy no and Jack Posobic. I have been infiltrating Antifa cells in Seattle and Portland for the past decade. I know their inner workings and Antifa uses extreme political violence to crush the civil rights of their political enemies and believes that violence is justified by any means necessary. But today I want to focus on what is happening in Portland at the ICE facility. I've been covering this for the past four months and this is a call out to corporate media who has completely ignored this story or has falsely reported on it. This is nothing short other than a sustained attack on the United States which is being supported by Democratic elected officials. The Portland Police Bureau has completely abandoned several blocks outside the ICE facility, giving away their jurisdiction to to a terrorist group who has spent the past four months harassing, assaulting and intimidating anyone they perceive to be against their cause. Not only have federal agents, bent agents, been relentlessly assaulted for more than 100 consecutive days, Black clad anarchist militants, concealing their identities behind black facial coverings, have been assaulting reporters just for trying to cover their crimes. Today I am sitting here with a black eye and a concussion after being violently hit in the face with a metal pole while reporting outside the ICE facility just this past week. After the attack, I immediately went TO A Portland 3 Portland Police officers who refused to detain the suspect. I took the time to chase down the suspect in the streets, had her held for 35 minutes. I was waiting for Portland police to come and they never came. Then that's what opened to my eyes to what this group is actually doing. I watched 20 antifa militants help my assault suspect escape into an Antifa safe house that is one block away from the ICE facility. And this safe house is where Antifa affiliated protesters are conducting parliamentary operations. It's where they're arresting, they're showering, they're eating. To continue this occupation, I have staked out this safe house and have observed shift changes. This group is highly organized. It is being funded through mutual aid groups and they have no plans of stopping. Residents living across the ICE facility have been held hostage by Antifa. They are begging for federal intervention. The city refuses to help and they want you, President Trump, to come in and restore law and order. I want to stress the importance of taking this situation seriously because when I first started reporting on this occupation, I went undercover in Blacklock. I talked to these antifa militants, I lasted for about a month. They believe that ICE agents are the Nazi Gestapo who need to be killed. They told me that directly. And I think that if this situation is not taken as seriously as is, it's just a matter of time before someone gets killed. And thank you for having me.
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B
Thank you, Katie. That's pretty incredible. The only question nobody can answer is why? Why are they doing this? They're like insurrectionists. They're terrible people. But you really wonder why, why are they doing it? What are they, what are they gaining? Other than they're obviously paid. They're paid a lot of money.
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C
Go ahead, please, Mr. President, if I can answer that question. The reason why they're doing it is because the same media that's sitting in this room with us has declared all of us at this table, Nazis and fascists. And they've been doing this for years. This is why Antifa feels emboldened to attack us now. Almost every single person at this table has been threatened with a steel bat. We've been assaulted, we've been harassed, we've been threatened. And that is in huge part due to the media. So my message right now is for you guys because two years ago in or back in 2020, by the way, I was censored for my reporting on Antifa here in Washington DC. You were talking about how safe it is now, Mr. President. It wasn't so safe back there then. Back in 2020, I watched as a. A father was being mobbed and surrounded by Antifa members as his terrified, crying children looked on in the port or the police here did nothing. I watched as a woman had her hair violently ripped out of her skull simply for waving an American flag on the streets of Washington D.C. and by the way, if you guys try to go and find any of this footage, you won't find any of it. Because Twitter deleted all of it because our President shared my reporting and they deleted my entire account immediately after. So now if you want to know what happened in 2020, all you're going to see is the media headlines that said it was fiery but mostly peaceful. Thanks for that one, cnn. The reality is that it was an extremely violent period of time and for the last 10 years Antifa has been wrecking havoc on law abiding and innocent American citizens and it needs to end now. I'm with Turning Point USA. It's an honor to be here, Mr. President. Thank you guys so much, you know everybody in the administration for giving us a seat at the table. Because the media has not only been demonizing us for so long. But immediately after the brutal assassination of our founder, Charlie Kirk, our Turning Point USA chapters have seen an uptick in violence across the nation as antifa chapters that are embedded in our universities go and target them. It's been extremely difficult to report on the ground. And for a long time I was afraid to go to Portland because I knew that the only people who would have my back, like Julio said, were one of my friends on the ground because there is no police force there. I was terrified to go because I knew if I got shot or stabbed and I have been assaulted, I've been mobbed and robbed in Austin, Texas by antifa that nobody would come to help me. So my plea to the entire administration, especially to the doj, is every single radical left winger who is in front of the ICE facility in Chicago, in New York, in Portland, please make sure that you use the full force of the law to come after each and every single one of them because. Because it is us being soft on left wing violence that has fomented all of, you know, the terror that we have seen in this country. And it is the left wing getting away time and time again with assaulting, law abiding American citizens that has led us to this place. So truly, to the Americans that I speak to on the ground, they feel completely abandoned by their state and local government. So please step in. You have Americans begging for the National Guard. And to the media over here, please report on the truth. Please do your jobs. I'm an American citizen. Everybody at this table simply views ourselves as American citizens who have an iPhone and the will to actually tell the truth. So please take your job seriously and tell the truth to the American people. And thank you for letting me be here on behalf of Charlie to continue his legacy of cleaning up the country. Thank you, Mr. President.
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B
Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Wow, you feel very strongly.
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C
I can see I'm mad. I got beat up so many times, Mr. President. My friends have gotten beaten up and I, I want to cry right now from happiness because we have been completely ignored for so long. For almost 10 years, we've been getting assaulted on the streets. I have watched children cry as their parents have been attacked on the streets. That should not be happening at our nation's capital. So please, again, the doj, please utilize the full force and go after each and every single one of these people.
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B
Fantastic. Thank you very much. Great, great job. Impassioned. That's important because you should feel like that. Please go ahead.
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A
Mr. President, thank you for having us here and bringing together this panel of brave, brave journalists, everybody on this side of the room. And no one can speak to the violence better than these people here. So I think we know that this is not just a story about violence and chaos, as you alluded to, Mr. President. This is a money story. And at the Government Accountability Institute, my colleague and I, Peter Schweitzer and my eye and our team, we followed the money and we followed it to the top of what we call the protest industrial complex, Riot Inc. And we found a network of NGOs. It's not just the Soros network, the Open Society Network, it's other funding networks, the Arabella funding network, the Tides funding network, Neville Roy Singham and his network, Foreign cash. And it's also big left wing funders. Some of them are not citizens of this country. Mr. Hans Jorg Wiess of Switzerland. They're pouring money into this entire ecosystem. And so I want to share three money facts with you about what we call Riot Inc. Number one, like, like any corporation, Riot Inc. Has many divisions. It doesn't just have the antifa boots on the ground division. It has PR divisions, it has marketing divisions. It has a very well funded legal division to get these boots on the ground back on the streets as quickly as possible. But it does have those investors that I mentioned. Number two, we have identified dozens of radical organizations. Not just the decentralized antifa organizations, but dozens of radical organizations that have received more than $100 million from the riot Inc. Investors. These would be the lawyer groups. These would be the groups that advocate for calling good, honest Americans fascists, et cetera. And then three, I think the most shocking thing is that we have found that more than $100 million in U.S. taxpayer funding has flowed into these funding networks, including at least $4 million to these very groups themselves, not just antifa types. But there was an event in Atlanta called Stop cop City. Over 60 rioters were charged with domestic terrorism. These groups received money for that from both the billionaire class as well as taxpayer money. So one other thing, this money helps fund the decentralized crowdfunding platforms. These are ways that Antifa, the John Brown Gun Club of Elm Fork, which had links to that attack on the ICE facility, the Socialist Rifle Association. And just because they don't have LLCs or EIN numbers, doesn't mean they can't get paid. Some of these funding platforms, crowdfunding platforms, are funded by this network that we call Rioting. So again, I want to thank you for your leadership, for the whole cabinet's leadership on this. We're going to keep following the money and appreciate everything you're doing.
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B
Sir, do you know the name of any of the funders? Do you know the names? Because if you do, I'd like you to give them to Cash or Pam.
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A
Absolutely.
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B
Or Christy.
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A
Yeah, we'll do that.
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B
As soon as you can. That's all of you. Because you probably know the names. After a certain period of time, you tend to find out. But these are people that do not have good intention for the country and that's treasonous, probably. So if you could, if you very important. If you could do that, it would be great. Nobody would know better than you. You'll figure it out. Thank you. Please go ahead.
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A
Yeah, My name's Nick Shirley. I'm 23 years old. I'm 100% independent YouTube journalist. And over the past year or so I've been able to go to 15 countries. I've hung out with people in the gangs of Brazil and the favelas and the prisons of Secat. But yet the most dangerous places I have been have been here in the United States, unfortunately. And I've had the opportunity to show people about the protest Antifa here in the United States. And there is nothing organic about what they are doing here in the United States. I've watched people be bused in from states. I've watched the same lady at a protest in Atlanta be bused to the protest in D.C. and then in New York City. There's nothing that is honest about what they are doing. And they have signs. I've seen the same signs here in D.C. and in London as well. It's a big organization and corporation that they're running. And people may wonder, like, what's the threat to us as Americans if we go? Well, you'll be labeled as a fascist, you'll be labeled as a Nazi, and they'll wish death upon you because they wish death upon me. And just last week in Portland, Oregon, I watched a lady get trapped in her car surrounded by Antifa. And her sister messaged me after seeing the video. She said, the only reason I think my sister was safe is because you were there recording. I also was chased out by a member of Antifa who said he would smoke me. And next thing he knew, a DHS sniper had lasers on his chest. If he was not there, who knows what would have happened that day. These people are very dangerous and people wonder how they're able to do it. The reason is because these cities are not enforcing the law. And why should these people Be worried if the law is not being enforced. And we are not far right, nor are we far wrong, we're just right. And the truth about what's happening here in America with these groups is very dangerous. And I thank you, Mr. President, and your administration as well, for acknowledging that.
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B
Thank you very much. It's too bad you have to go through it.
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A
I know it's a little crazy, right.
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B
Mr. President, when you're gonna get to the bottom of it. So it's a very important thing you're doing. Thank you very much. Please. Kim.
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A
Yeah, I've just got something very short. I'm attacked every time I do my job. When I leave my house to go to work, I am violently assaulted. I've had guns pulled on me. I've been bear sprayed, I've been beaten down, I've been almost killed. So my question for all of you is, how would you feel if every time you showed up to work, masked militants tried to kill you? Because that's how we feel. That's our lived reality. And you guys go and tell us that we're liars. The riots aren't that bad. Right? I've never seen any of you guys on the ground. In fact, I've never seen anybody representing the companies you work for on the ground. You guys come to us for interviews that never get published. Stop saying we're lying.
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B
We're not.
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A
We risk our lives every day to do the job that you guys are too afraid to do.
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B
What network would you say is the worst? If I could ask.
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A
Oh, man. Yes.
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B
I mean, honestly, it's a simple question.
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A
And there's a lot of people in this pool. And I would say I'm not talking about Fox, I'm not talking about Newsmax or any outlet that resembles them. So you guys put the pieces together on who I'm exactly talking to.
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B
Which network?
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A
Msnbc for sure.
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B
They're terrible. I agree. Cnn.
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A
Probably close.
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B
Yeah. Yeah. I'd rate it that way. Yeah. Ms. NBC, it's Brian Roberts. Yeah. That he allows that to happen is a disgrace. And CNN is second.
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A
Yeah.
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B
I would say CNN is not quite as bad as Ms. MSNBC is.
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A
Not really anymore.
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B
Oh, MSNBC is sick. They're sick.
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A
Well, sir, it's also just the stories that they publish about what's the ICE enforcement operations that are so heavily slanted that it's no longer, as I was saying, no longer just antifa, but Americans that are becoming radicalized. So they've been very irresponsible with how they've been reported who is that? Msnbc, for example.
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B
Would you rate them the worst?
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Probably.
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B
Second?
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Well, they ran a story about an operation in Southern California about how a father of three marines was arrested and they made it seem like they just did it because he's brown. But he. There's video of that same man charging at the agents with the weed whacker. Now, I've worked with weed whackers back in the day and I. You don't want to be in the receiving end of one of those. So that's why he was arrested. But the story was presented as if it's a brown guy just simply being arrested. And I've been around ICE agents and you know, I'm a citizen, so, you know, I feel fine. But it's just, that's why it's not just antifa. It's not happening in a vacuum.
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B
It's working in conjunction. I think they work in conjunction with some of the media. I think ABC is very bad. I think NBC is very bad. And CBS has a new owner. So we have hope for cbs. CBS has a great new owner. My opinion. But as I will tell you, ABC is terrible. NBC is terrible. NBC's MSNBC too. You know, they changed it. They moved it over legally so they couldn't be tainted by the words msnbc. But they are absolutely terrible. There are a lot of them. What about independence?
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A
Independent, independent networks, they're a little bit better. But I would say that we're an example of how you don't need to be part of a super large company to be able to do just basic journalism. All you got to do is sit and record, play out. And that's, that's why, that's why they hate us. That's why.
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B
Well, I watch a level of dishonesty that's incredible where answers are changed. If like just before the election an answer was changed by comma les, you give a horrible death defying, election defying answer and they took the answer out and they replaced it with another answer that she gave five minutes later having to do with a different subject. But at least it wasn't election defying. No, the level of dishonesty with the media is incredible. Whether it's on antifa or many of the other groups. You know you're talking about antifa and I know that's close to your heart because that's the one that's most affecting you. But there are others that are as bad or almost as bad as antifa, having to do with different people, different sections of the world. But it's terrible. We're not going to let it go on in this country. We cannot going to let it go on. And a big problem is not all of them, but some of the networks out there. And you do wonder why. You really do. Okay, please go ahead. Yeah.
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A
Mr. President, thank you again.
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B
Thank you.
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My name is Jonathan Cho. I am an investigative reporter for Frontlines, Turning Point usa, also a senior fellow at Discovery Institute in Seattle. And I cover far left extremism as well as the homeless drug crisis in America. And I find it oftentimes those worlds intersect and hot off the presses. What I wanted to bring to your attention today is a report from a capital research center here in D.C. in conjunction with Discovery Institute. They just put out this study right now. And what it shows is that Antifa is heavily embedded in the homeless and housing nonprofit sector. In many cases, the homeless industrial complex is running cover for Antifa. Antifa is benefiting from American tax dollars and they're essentially being used as the muscle. Let me give you an example. There's a group called Stop the Sweeps in many US Cities right now. They get in front of encampment sweeps. What they're doing quietly is they're bringing in Antifa militants to manufacture a crisis, to make the police look bad. Another group right now that is behind Antifa and working with Antifa very closely based on the research that we have right now that we're going to give to you and your team are the Democratic Socialists of America, also known as dsa. Again, these far left progressive groups tend to be aligning themselves with Antifa. So finally, in closing, what I wanted to thank you again, Mr. President, is that a few months ago, earlier this year, you put out an executive order on homelessness and the drug addiction crisis in America, and that's sent the entire homeless industrial complex on the run. You have absolutely moved the needle and changed the game. But what's also come out again is that there is a connection, a deeply embedded connection with, with the homeless housing nonprofit Game in America, connected to Antifa and the far left activists. And finally, I just wanted to say that all of our resources at Turning Point USA and Discovery Institute are at your disposal. And we will continue again to carry on the legacy of Charlie Kirk. He would have wanted us to pursue and chase the story.
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B
Well, he was a good friend of mine, as you know, and he helped us get elected. Us. It really is us. It's even some of them, but not too many of them, not enough of them. And did you notice when we mentioned CNN And Ms. Dnc, the cameras went off. Two of the cameras immediately went off. But they're not going to cover it anyway. The problem we have is that this is a very important meeting but you'll see very little press about it. These are major statements being made by major people, including the people right here. And you're not going to see too much about it. They don't like to cover this kind of thing. Very dishonest what's going on there. I think the press is a big, a big factor. Please go ahead. Thank you, James.
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A
Mr. President, thank you so much for having us all here to bring attention to this matter. You know, you did mention, msdnc, cnn, a handful of those other outlets that have been lying about, I mean, various things, but especially what ICE brave men and women over at ICE have been doing. I was talking to Antifa members in Portland the other day and you know, a lot of these people genuinely believe they buy these lies and they genuinely believe that they're fighting against literal Nazis and not brave men and women that are, you know, putting their lives on the line to basically, you know, enforce basic immigration law.
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B
Right.
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That everyone seemed to agree with up until maybe a few years ago, a handful of years ago. So once again, thank you so much for having me. My name is James Klug. While my primary job is traveling around the country having conversations with Americans about various political topics and issues. You know, I have had a lot of run ins with Antifa over the last five years and I do think that Antifa is a primary reason why many conservatives are afraid to go out and protest and make their voices heard and maybe bring friends and family to a demonstration and exercise their first Amendment right because they are literally deathly afraid. I talk to these people all the time. They're afraid of militants showing up in black bloc and hurting them and their families. And you know, I have witnessed, I personally witnessed Antifa assaulting hundreds of police officers. I've witnessed them firebombing police departments and federal property. I've witnessed them making death threats against federal agents, police officers, journalists. I think I've witnessed every single person here. Maybe, maybe not personally, but I've seen them get, you know, hunted down and attacked. And so, you know, this is a group that is responsible for a good percentage, if not a majority of the violent riots in 2021 and 2020 when Democrat mayors had a kind of a hands off approach with these left wing militants. Just as a quick reminder for everybody, we're talking about dozens of murders that happened in those Riots. We're talking about billions of dollars of damage to property and communities all over the country. We're talking about thousands of officer injuries. So this isn't just like some little thing that they're, you know, oh, they punch a journalist here and there. No, they're. They're responsible for a lot of damage and a lot of people that have, you know, unfortunately died and basically suppressing people's voices, you know. And so what I did want to talk about is to get this footage, almost every single person in the room here, to get this footage, you have to go undercover because you are at risk of being beaten or worse. You have to go undercover. You have to film low key. To capture them committing crimes. This is stuff that the mainstream media was not doing and has not been doing. They'll show when Antifa is. Maybe it's a little bit more peaceful, and they'll show when it's more mellow, but they'll remove the cameras when things get violent, and it's actually dangerous to be here. And I have personally witnessed legacy media vans showing up at a riot 300 yards away, getting out of the vehicle, filming for 30 seconds, saying something like, you know, fiery, but mostly peaceful, packing up. And to add insult to injury, you have Democrat politicians that are saying, it's just an idea. Right? That's all this is. So it's just an idea after all of this chaos, it's just an idea. Well, that idea has threatened to kill me and many of my friends that are here today. So, Mr. President, thank you so much for bringing this to the forefront, and it's definitely making a big change. Really appreciate you.
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B
One question. So why is it there are numerous groups? I mean, Antifa is terrible, but you have other groups that I guess probably are almost as bad or just as bad. Not one other group was mentioned. I'm sort of surprised at that. You just come into contact with Antifa. It seems to be that you mostly come into contact with Antifa. Please.
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C
There's a lot of overlap. And I would say that, for instance, Jonathan brought up the Democratic Socialists of America. They're basically the same thing. I mean, there's a lot of Democratic Socialists of America who are out there in black bloc, you know, hiding their faces. And so I think we use. And I do understand, for the record, I do understand the challenge, as Andy pointed out, with Antifa as a graspable entity. I do. But at the end of the day, when you look at behavior, you prosecute behavior, right? We're not prosecuting ideas or ideology. You're prosecuting behavior. So whether you can prove that this amorphous thing is antifa or someone has a patch that says antifa, it doesn't matter. Did they assault someone? Did they assault a federal agent? Were they engaged in rioting? What is it? And so they're always using that. Oh, well, they don't call themselves antifa, even though some of them literally do. It's called Rose City Antifa. How long has it been around in Portland, Andy?
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Since 2007.
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They call themselves antifa in Seattle. It was outside the federal building and they were yelling, there's no police here. This is antifa land. And at the same time, Democrats like our governor. Oh, antifa is an idea. But yeah, I think antifa can overlap with a lot of other entities and organizations.
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B
Very good, thank you.
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A
You know, President Trump, I just wanted to add this real quick because you were asking which mainstream media outlet is the worst? What? I think it's any of them that decided to call Kilmar Abrego Garcia, M.D. dad. Because when I'm out there on the street talking to these people, you know, they call Marilyn, dad, is this human. He's actually a human trafficking ms.13 gang member that's illegally in the country. But the amount of people on the street that I spoke with that thought that he was a US Citizen that was being deported to Uganda is dangerous. These people genuinely believe, based on what comes out of the garbage standing over here, that you guys are deporting U.S. citizens.
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B
So that's a governor like Pritzker in Chicago, where you have Illinois, which is in a lot of trouble. Chicago's there, you know, potentially great city again. It's not great now, but it could be great again. That's why we have to get there soon, because eventually you can't do that. What makes a man like that say that things are wonderful? Why doesn't he say, we love that President Trump is going to come and help us clean up Chicago and make it safe again, as opposed to fighting us and pretending that there weren't 50 murders and 200 shootings and all of that. Why? Why is that? Go ahead, Nick.
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A
Despite you, despite you, despite the administration, that's, that's simply what it's about at this point. Because, you know, if you go and talk to some of these citizens, like, I'll use Portland as an example again, because I've been there for so long now. You talk to the neighbors that live in the apartments next door to the ICE facility. They are, they, there are veterans with PTSD that live there. And they're here all night long, screaming, fireworks being lit off by these rioters, children crying because they can't sleep at night, and they're scared of all the noise outside. And they can't leave. They can't. They got a lease. You can't just leave. These people aren't wealthy individuals, and that's one of the major problems here. And these people are afraid to come out and speak out, and they're getting no help from their government at all. They've been begging for the noise ordinance to be enforced outside of their apartment complex for months now, and the city of Portland has ignored them every single time. The victims are, as I said, they're afraid, but the governments aren't doing anything because they. They want to spite the administration. It's all political.
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B
And the politicians make you feel like. Like you're foolish, like there's something wrong. How could President Trump be saying that about Chicago? And yet the night before you see that, you know, 11 people were shot, five people died, and you have him talking about, like, it's a wonderful situation. It's. They make you feel guilty. And a lot of people don't get over that. They just don't get over it. I think they convince the people. Do wealthy people leave, too, or not? Places like Portland? Are the wealthy people leaving? People that can leave, are they leaving?
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C
I think that they're moving to the areas that have been gentrified. I mean, the Oregon governor, when she was saying, we don't need Trump here, she's walking around. It's a very tight shot, if you notice that. And she said, portland's just fine, you know, look at me. And they'll focus on the couple areas of Portland.
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B
She was saying that. And they were exposed. Explosions in the background.
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C
Yeah, I mean, there was a reason.
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B
They cropped it in. Explosions in the background. Anybody have anything else to say over here? And then we'll get. Should we be taking questions or is it just a waste of time? Because they can ask questions, but. Well, there's Brian. He's good. But you know what? In a way, it's a waste of time because if you give a great answer, they don't put it on. If you give a horrendous answer or even if you get a. Give a great answer, they make it sound like it's not a great answer. They're very dishonest. Go ahead, Nick.
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A
Yeah, And I think part of that dishonesty comes from what they see. For instance, I've never been asked to go on any other show besides Fox News, my clips go viral everywhere. But they've never even asked, like CNN's ever asked. MSNBC's never asked. And a lot of times when I go to hotels, I'll stay and I'll watch, like msnbc.
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B
Fortunately, their ratings are terrible.
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A
They are terrible.
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B
MSNBC is dying, and so CNN is dying like a dog. And poor cnn. It's so pathetic.
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A
It is very pathetic.
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B
You ever see their anchors in the evening? Nobody ever heard of them. Where did these people come? You could. I could take anybody off the street in Washington, D.C. they'd do a better job.
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A
It's not hard to show what's going on these days. You literally have an iPhone and you can post it on.
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B
They don't believe in the star system. You know, just one of those things. Right. Okay. Nick, you finished? Nick?
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A
Yeah.
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B
Are you finished? Good job. Thank you very much. Well, you've been through hell, I tell you that, but you're really incredible patriots, incredible people. Now go ahead, please. Brian. Brian, go ahead.
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A
I'm so thankful for each and every one of you here right now. And I'm very grateful that my network.
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B
You have a show on a network. Many of you, Savannah, have appeared on a network as well. So thank you for being here. My question is this. In terms of following the money, I would just notify that the. The city of Austin is cleared to vote tomorrow to basically waive $120,000 fee so that a no Kings, basically an.
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A
Anti Trump rally can occur in their city.
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B
They're bypassing the fees, rolling it to the taxpayers. So my question is to you. What can the people of Austin, Texas do right now to make sure that their tax dollars don't fund a no.
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A
Keynes, anti Trump rally coming up?
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B
Well, just tell me. I would love to do something about that. Bring a lawsuit, do something. You know, the best thing you can do is have honest elections because the elections are totally rigged in so many of these places. You know, you take a look, the people, they're all loving you. They. They can't breathe. They love so much, every one of them. You don't see one negative. Then all of a sudden, you lose the election by 20 points. The elections are so rigged. And we proved that in 2020 more than any other time. But even the last election, there were areas that I won by much more. We won in a landslide, but I actually won in more of a landslide than we thought. I said, you got to get out, make it too big to rig. And fortunately, the people made it too big. To rig. They tried. They tried. But the biggest thing you can do is have honest elections, you know, if you don't have. And you need great media, you need great. You need borders. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You need borders, you need honest media, you need honest elections, and you have a great country and you need. And you need all three of them. Yeah, go ahead. Had ties to all these radical groups that you talked about inside here. So thank you for removing. I would like you to make a big deal, though, if they're waiving a fee, but I guarantee they wouldn't waive it if it was. It's not Trump. If it were a conservative rally, they wouldn't be waving it. So maybe you can look into that pants, Todd. That sounds like one for Todd. Pam, go ahead. Good luck. What network?
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A
I'm with Al Arabia. It's an Arabic network based in Riyadh in Saudi Arabia.
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B
But I am the foreigner today.
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A
Mr. President, you said that you might go to the Middle east on Sunday. Do you mean Egypt and Israel and.
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B
Would you consider going to Gaza to see what things. I would. I might do that. I may do that. We haven't decided exactly. I'll be going to Egypt, most likely. That's where everybody is gathered right now. And we appreciate that very much. But I'll be making the rounds. As the expression goes. I probably will.
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C
Mr. President, you. President.
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A
Mr. President.
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C
Mr. President, go ahead.
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A
Just to clarify, you said you might go to Gaza. You're saying. First off, I'm with. I'm representing the TV pool, but I'm with NBC, sir.
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B
That's too bad.
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A
Okay. Well, just to clarify, you said you might go to Gaza. And then the second question I had earlier today, you said the mayor of Chicago and the governor of Illinois should be jailed. Have you asked the Justice Department to look at possible charges?
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B
And I've seen the law. And when. When you have a group of people where the police call off the safety for ICE officials. I've understood that and I've read it today in numerous journals that that's illegal. What they did is the. I guess it was ice, Christie. Right. They were under threat and the police were helping beautifully and it was fine. And then all of a sudden, a woman was on the line saying, everybody, move back, move back. Get out, get out. And they were given an order by the second person in the police department. And the governor knew about. The mayor knew about it. I understand that's a criminal offense. Do you want to comment on that, Christie?
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C
Yes, sir. We're seeing that kind of pattern happen with local law enforcement and state law enforcement, not just in Illinois, but also out in Oregon too. In fact, in Portland I was there yesterday, but some of the ICE officers were telling me that as they drove by the rioters that were saying kill ICE agents, Molotov cocktails melt ice, that the Portland police were cheering them on and had their fists in the air cheering on the rioters that were threatening their lives. So in Chicago, we had a 10 car caravan trail our ICE officials and pin them down and those ICE officials to get out of their vehicles. A woman tried to ram them and run them over and they shots were fired to get them to safety. So it's happening on a regular basis. And any elected official that allows this to happen and gives cover to those kind of individual individuals who are perpetuating murder should absolutely be prosecuted in my opinion.
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B
Daniel?
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A
Thank you, Mr. President.
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B
And by the way, we have Marco Rubio. Marco, come on up here, please. He's going to bring a little stability to this group. Come on up. Does everybody know Marco Rubio? Is there anybody that does it? Some of the reporters don't. That's why they shouldn't be reporters.
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A
Which job is he here for today?
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B
Come on up here, Marco. Anything we should know about the Middle East? So we're hoping to talk to you.
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A
About here, Mr. President.
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B
He's doing a good job. He was born for this job, I can tell you. Daniel, please.
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A
Thank you very much. I have two questions for you if that's okay. Seamus talked a little bit about the money aspect of this. Do you believe if you go after where the money come is coming from with antifa, in regards to antifa, do you believe that would be similar to cutting the head off the snake, so to speak?
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B
It would help, you know, I don't know that it would be totally complete, but it would certainly. You'd knock out 75%, 80%, 85%. These people, a lot of them don't believe it. You know, when they, I watch them, I say I can almost tell a pro by. They're like professionals. That's all they do. And, and they get paid by somebody. I think it would knock out a lot of it. Yeah, not all of it maybe, but a lot of it.
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A
A lot of the people who we've listened to over the last hour, they've emphasized that antifa, it's not necessarily this big organized thing, it's a bit ambiguous. It's deorganized. I think that's one of the words that Andy used. What is the Challenges of going after a group that makes it intentionally difficult to go after and find. That could be for you, the Attorney general, anyone up there.
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B
Well, they're smart people and they deceive. A lot of them are crooked people. A lot of them have been staying out of trouble their whole lives, and they've been bad from the day they were born, frankly. But these are sick people. Pam, Go ahead, please.
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A
Well, they're smart, but they're not smart enough.
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B
They.
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A
Oh, my microphone's broken.
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C
They're smart, but they're not smart enough.
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A
They have been covered by these liberal cities for so many years. And that's why we're all working with treasury, with all these different departments to find the criminal conspiracy.
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B
Okay, I'm just giving. Yeah, I was just given a note by the Secretary of State saying that we're very close to a deal in the Middle east and they're going to need me pretty quickly. So I will take a couple of more questions, please.
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A
Thank you, sir. I also have two questions for you, if I may. Have you given any more thought to possibly suspending MBUS corpus to not only deal with these insurrectionists across the nation, but also to continue rapidly deporting illegal aliens?
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B
Yeah, it's been suspending who Corpus. So I don't know. I'd rather leave that to Christie. What do you think?
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C
No, sir, I haven't been a part of any discussions on that.
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B
Go ahead.
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C
In the ceasefire.
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B
This is CNN speaking, by the way. So are you know, this is one of. One of the worst reporters that you'll ever. I don't even want to take a question. It's a waste of time. Go ahead.
- [56:20]
C
How will you decide which workers get.
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A
Back pay and which workers do not?
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B
Well, we're going to see most of them are going to get back pay and we're going to try and make sure of that. But some of them are being hurt very badly by the Democrats and they therefore won't qualify. Go ahead, please.
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C
What will the administration do to foreign and people organizers and funders who are located overseas?
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B
Go ahead. In the yellow, please.
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A
So the Nobel Peace Prize will be announced on Friday. You've been nominated by many world.
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B
By many, many countries. That's right.
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A
As well as the hostage families. Do you think you will win?
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B
I have no idea. I mean, look, I did settle. Marco would tell you. We settled seven wars. We're close to settling an eighth. And I think we'll end up settling the Russia situation, which is horrible. Seven thousand people died last week, by the way, in Russia. Between Russia and Ukraine, I think we'll settle that. So I don't think anybody in history settled that. More that many. But perhaps they'll find a reason not to give it to me, you know, perhaps. Thank you.
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A
Going to the shutdown quickly, what is your position on the extension of health care subsidies, which is what Democrats are asking for?
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B
All I want to do is very simple. I want to get the country open. And then we're going to discuss that and we'd like to. Obamacare is a horrible mess, and it has been from the beginning. We want to make it better, stronger, even if it costs more money. Costs more money. We want to make it better. The Democrats want to make it worse. The Democrats want to approve health care for illegals coming into our country, many of them coming in from prisons and mental institutions and drug dealers. They want to give them health care. We don't want that for our people because that's going to destroy the health care that we already have. We'd like to make Obamacare better. Better for people, less expensive and better health care. Yes, ma'. Am.
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A
I'm wondering if you've been briefed on.
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C
The organization and funding of Antifa and if so, what have you learned?
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B
I have been, and they have pretty good knowledge. But they're going to have a very good knowledge. And I really ask these very brave patriots that we're surrounded with today to let us know because I think you probably have some pretty good ideas. And even if you're not sure, let us know and we'll figure it out. Okay, if you could do that. You're from Italy?
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C
No, I'm from France.
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B
Can you specify how close we are to the deal? Would that be announced today?
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A
Tomorrow.
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C
And do you want to see the.
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B
Hostages released before you travel to the region? No, I think I'll probably go maybe before the hostages are released or shortly thereafter? Pretty much shortly thereafter, yeah. Please go ahead. Who you with?
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C
Who you with the center square? I was. I had the honor of asking you originally if you would designate Antifa a terror organization. And I stand here before you today and I'm echoing what Andy said over here. Are you going to work with your administration as the secretary of state's here? Are you going to work with your administration to designate it a foreign terror organization?
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B
You mean it a terror Antifa.
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C
Antifa, a foreign terror organization.
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B
Well, has that been done? Pretty close, right? Would you like to see it done?
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A
Yes, Mr. President.
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B
You think it would help they.
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A
They have foreign land.
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B
I'd be glad to do it. I think it's the kind of thing I'd like to do, if you'd like. Does everybody agree? If you agree, I agree. Let's get it done. Okay. Let's get it done. Marco. We'll take care of it, Mr. President. That's international. You mean international Sounds good to me, Steve. Are you okay with it?
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