Bolling! - September 18th, 2025

Summary

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Real America's Voice – "Bolling!" (September 18, 2025)

Main Theme / Purpose

In this episode, Eric Bolling hosts a forceful, rapid-fire discussion about the fallout from controversial comments made by late-night host Jimmy Kimmel regarding Charlie Kirk’s assassination. The episode delves into the cancellation of Kimmel’s show, the decline of legacy media, the political climate after Kirk’s death, and an emerging conspiracy theory about the assassination itself. Bolling is joined by right-wing personalities Alex Jones (“Mad Dog”) and Steve Bannon for passionate, speculative debate. The show further criticizes Barack Obama’s response to political violence, comments on media hypocrisy, and explores shifting American media consumption.

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Market Recap and News Brief

[00:00–01:10]

• The episode opens with Eric Bolling ticking through the day's market results: the Dow and especially the Nasdaq are up following the Fed’s quarter-point interest rate cut. Crypto markets are also strong.
• “Good day in the crypto markets as well. We do this every day because it’s what we do.” (Eric Bolling, 01:11)

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Segment 1: The Fallout – Jimmy Kimmel, Ratings, and the Media Collapse

[01:10–10:00]

Kimmel’s Axing: Ratings or Outrage?

• Kimmel’s comments about Kirk’s assassination are played for the audience:
  • “We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it.” (Jimmy Kimmel, 01:27)
• Bolling invites Alex Jones to weigh in: Is Kimmel’s firing about ratings, or his remarks?
  • “I predicted…all three of the late night hosts are going to be gone…Fox late night has more viewers than all of them combined. They’re just using political excuses to get rid of them.” (Alex Jones, 01:53)
  • Jones claims the shows are “a facade,” run on low viewership and propped up with talking points from the Democratic Party.
  • “At the end of the day, they woke up dead. They were already in the coffin, buried years ago.” (Alex Jones, 03:19)

Corporate & Affiliate Pressure

• Bolling recounts how local ABC affiliates led to Kimmel’s ouster:
  • “This is the first time in my history…that I saw a local push up to the parent ABC and they actually got the results they were looking for…a lot of folks should be on the hot seat nervous about getting canceled.” (Eric Bolling, 04:34)
• Jones agrees, framing it as a business—NOT free speech—decision, but with public outrage as the final straw.

Notable Quotes

• “The final dominoes were the local affiliates saying, we’re getting our phones blown off. The ratings are already low. We’re still carrying these loser shows.” (Alex Jones, 04:59)
• “If they had high ratings and they were controversial, they would be kept on air. But you can’t have high ratings and make fun of an American hero that was murdered.” (Alex Jones, 05:12)
• “Taking a knee…unpopular. The NFL has a right to say, don’t do that.” (Alex Jones, 06:57)

The ‘Political Excuse’ & Media Collapse

• Both hosts challenge the idea that Kirk’s assassination is the real reason for Kimmel’s departure:
  • “Now they’re using Charlie Kirk’s death as a reason to get rid of dead weight programming…In other words, man up and say, you know what? Final straw.” (Eric Bolling, 07:16)
• Jones: “But we know corporate media is dead…Kimmel and Colbert are huge stars, but only as clowns.” (08:03)
• Bolling: “Clowns…in the digital world, clipping stupid comments they make…Back in the day…they poked fun at the President…they had their finger on the pulse of populism.” (Eric Bolling & Alex Jones, 08:32–09:05)

Summary:
Legacy media is collapsing, claim the hosts—cannibalized by poor ratings and held together only by political inertia and talking points from Democratic leadership. The public’s backlash gave ABC the excuse it needed to cull costly, unpopular shows.

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Segment 2: Charlie Kirk Assassination – Theories & Evidence

[11:38–18:31]

Introducing the Conspiracy

• Bolling introduces a theory that alleged shooter Tyler Robinson did not act alone:
  • “I have a theory about Charlie Kirk’s assassin…Tyler Robinson couldn’t have acted alone. Here’s why…immediately a 72-year-old guy named Zinn stands up and says, I did it. He creates a diversion…The assassin gets off the roof.” (Eric Bolling, 11:38–12:24)
• Discusses “admissions of guilt”—text messages suggesting premeditation:
  • “How long have you been planning this? And he says a bit over a week. There’s premeditation. Those are all the things you need for slam dunk.” (Eric Bolling, 12:52)

Alex Jones Goes Deeper – ‘Trantifa’, NGOs, and the ‘Cover-up’

• Jones claims to have spoken to state reps and law enforcement, casting blame on “trantifa,” Antifa, NGOs, and even the UN for fomenting the attack:
  • “[We] know that NGOs, Democratic Party and the UN were funding this trantifa antifa … We know six trannies said…Charlie Kirk will be dead tomorrow.” (Alex Jones, 14:00)
  • Jones invokes crowd chants, Discord messages, cat-and-mouse diversions, and other “evidence” of a conspiracy extending beyond a lone shooter.
  • “If the FBI doesn’t go in and raid all those people and expose the obvious conspiracy, then we know there’s a cover up.” (Alex Jones, 15:56)

Notable Quotes

• “You had this zen guy…literally jumping up and saying I killed him…telling police I did it so he’d get away. How did he know to do that?” (Alex Jones, 15:05)
• “If you don’t think elements of the government or the NSA knew about this, this was a big planned event.” (Alex Jones, 15:31)
• “We should be addressing what they’re planning to do and the next attacks that are coming…” (Alex Jones, 22:10)

Summary:
The murder of Charlie Kirk is spun as part of a sweeping, coordinated effort to suppress conservative voices, implicating far-left activists, NGOs, and possibly government agencies. The show explicitly claims a cover-up is underway if all players aren’t investigated and prosecuted.

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Segment 3: Who’s to Blame? Media, Israel, or Feds?

[18:31–22:34]

Candace Owens, Accusations, and the Danger of Speculation

• Bolling references Candace Owens’ viral speculations that Israel or the Mossad were involved; says such charges are irresponsible:
  • “We have to be very careful who we point the finger at, unless you just want your reputation to go up in smoke.” (Eric Bolling, 19:37)
• Alex Jones: While debates are healthy, the onus is on groups like Antifa, Black Lives Matter, and certain “Islamicists,” who he claims are openly celebrating Kirk’s death:
  • “We have The Democrats saying kill Charlie Kirk, celebrating his death. These tranny mafias in Antifa killing people all over the place…” (Alex Jones, 19:52)
• On investigations: Bolling asks if high-profile conservatives (Cash Patel, Dan Bongino, Pam Bondi) can get to the “truth.” Jones demurs:
  • “No, I’m not [confident]. If we don’t see raids and investigations of the people that had prior knowledge, then it’s a cover up.” (Alex Jones, 21:12)

Summary:
Speculation abounds, but Bolling and Jones warn against misattributing blame without evidence—even as they single out left-wing groups. There’s a shared skepticism that any official investigation will be honest or effective.

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Segment 4: Obama’s Response & Media Hypocrisy

[25:54–32:30]

Obama’s "Tone Deaf" Statement

• Obama’s remarks are played:
  • “My response was not who planned who, who may have influenced this troubled young man to engage in that kind of violence and now let me go after my political opponents and use them.” (Barack Obama, 25:57)
• Bolling lambasts Obama as divisive:
  • “It’s actually disturbing, not just shocking. It’s disturbing how much Obama lied through that interview.” (Eric Bolling, 26:16)
  • “Barack Obama and Black Lives Matter set race relations in this country back hundreds of years…” (Eric Bolling, 28:19)

Americans’ “Not Extreme” Beliefs

• Bolling lists beliefs he claims Obama and the left now demonize: limited government, firearm ownership, border security, binary gender, meritocracy, law and order, free speech.
• “Before Obama, those were almost all moderate positions that almost all Americans routinely agreed with.” (Eric Bolling, 28:35)

Summary:
Bolling frames Obama as the principal villain dividing America and enabling extremism on the left. Traditional “moderate” American values, he claims, are now derided as radical by the former President and his party.

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Segment 5: The Kimmel Meltdown – Media & Political Reaction

[34:50–43:23]

Outrage from CNN, Schumer, Democrats

• Clips and responses from Brian Stelter, Jake Tapper, Chuck Schumer, Representative Robert Garcia, and Don Lemon are played, all objecting to the Kimmel cancellation as “an attack on free speech.”
  • “Trump and his allies seem to want to…shut down speech they don’t like…but he has the right to free speech…” (Chuck Schumer, 37:28)
  • “Jimmy Kimmel is a late night host, he’s a comedian…this is a direct attack on free speech.” (Rep. Garcia, 38:40)
  • “They’re killing comedy…the folks who are complaining about canceling people are canceling people.” (Don Lemon, 40:28)
• Bolling and Jones counter that nobody is addressing Kimmel’s “trashing” of Kirk or the factual basis of the outrage.
  • “Garcia…did you mention that Kimmel trashed the memory of Charlie Kirk and blamed MAGA…No. Just trying to do politics, right?” (Eric Bolling, 39:52)

Summary:
The hosts reject left-wing complaints about “cancel culture,” arguing that the true issue is the media’s double standard and disregard for conservative victims.

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SEGMENT 6: Steve Bannon on the Affiliate Revolt & MAGA’s Rise

[44:00–49:52]

Bannon’s Analysis of Kimmel’s Firing

• Bannon points to affiliate business pressure, not political censorship, as the cause:
  • “I think it was a business decision from the two big affiliate groups…and that rolled all the way…to Disney.” (Steve Bannon, 45:21)
• Bannon claims a seismic shift: MAGA is now the dominant movement, and advertisers/media must acknowledge the new political landscape.
  • “We won in 24 in a blowout because we brought in Make America Healthy Again. You’ve got Charlie Kirk’s young people…MAGA…has risen to become…the most powerful political movement from scratch in American history.” (Steve Bannon, 46:59)
• Both agree that partisanship has shifted at the local station level:
  • “Now maybe these news directors are getting it from their own audiences. Like, hey, you can’t continue to trash Trump and MAGA because half of us are MAGA.” (Eric Bolling, 46:11)

Security and Political Violence

• Bolling: “Are you protecting yourself?” (Eric Bolling, 47:49)
  • Bannon: “I’ve always had security…Ever since I won the Trump campaign in ‘16…” (Steve Bannon, 48:10)
• Bannon supports Trump’s new designation of “Antifa and … these trans radicals” as a “major terrorist organization.” He likens MAGA’s fight to radical political struggle, pledging not to back down despite threats and violence.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

On Media Collapse

• “They didn’t have a pulse to begin with…they were politically dead already.”
  — Alex Jones ([06:10])

On the Kirk Assassination

• “This is a big planned event…if the FBI doesn’t go in and raid all those people…then we know there’s a cover up.”
  — Alex Jones ([15:31], [15:56])

On Obama’s Response

• “He left this country more divided than ever on his way out after he won on a campaign filled with slogan words like change and hope.”
  — Eric Bolling ([28:19])

On Business Decisions behind Cancellations

• “I think it was a business decision from the two big affiliate groups…and that rolled all the way…to Disney.”
  — Steve Bannon ([45:21])

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Key Timestamps

• [01:27] – Jimmy Kimmel’s controversial comments
• [04:34–06:10] – Affiliate boycott explained; media’s death declared
• [11:38–14:39] – Bolling & Jones break down assassination conspiracy
• [18:31–21:12] – Candace Owens’ accusations and demands for investigation
• [25:57–28:35] – Obama’s “tone-deaf” reaction dissected
• [34:50–41:24] – Legacy media meltdown and defense of Kimmel
• [44:00–47:49] – Steve Bannon on affiliate revolt, MAGA and business realities

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Summary Takeaways

• Kimmel’s ouster is attributed to bottom-line economics, not just public outrage; media outlets are finally responding to audience and affiliate pressure.
• Charlie Kirk’s assassination is described as a likely conspiracy involving far-left actors, with criticism of law enforcement and skepticism about any official investigation.
• The media landscape is portrayed as shifting: legacy TV wanes as digital, populist voices rise.
• The episode features bold accusations against Democrats and leftist organizations, urging investigation and vigilance.
• Host and guests urge vigilance, assert the right to self-defense, and pledge to continue fighting against "the left" and media corruption.

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Tone: Blunt, confrontational, populist, and conspiratorial, matching the no-holds-barred style of the guests and host.

For listeners: This episode is a combative, detail-heavy breakdown of recent media and political upheaval, delivered through a strongly partisan, anti-mainstream-media lens.

Transcript

[Eric Bolling]

This is an iHeart podcast. Alrighty folks. Okay, guess what, it's Thursday, 4pm Markets have just closed. Let's take a peek at what's going on. I'm going to jump right over there. But Dow Jones had a good day. It was all over the board a little bit. But the Nasdaq really jumped up the most, over 1% higher on the day. And this is a little bit of delayed reaction to the Feds lowering the interest rates, the fed funds rate by a quarter percent yesterday. It's the SEC lowering typically does really good things for the markets when they do. A lot of people wanted him to get a more aggressive with the way he described it as a goal. Down a touch. 40 bucks is nothing on a $3,700 unit in oil. Down a little bit. Bitcoin was up. It was up a lot more. Bitcoin was up over118,000 at one point. Backed off right before the close. Ethereum up. XRP up. CRO up. So folks, good day in the crypto markets as well. We have to do this. We do this every day because it's what we do. All right, let's bring our first guest, good friend of mine, the CEO of Infowars where he hosts the Alex Jones show. And he also has a lot to say about Charlie Kirk's assassination. Welcome back to Mr. Alex Jones. Before we get into details about Charlie Kirk, which you and I were going to break this down quite a bit, let's just talk a little bit about Jimmy Kimmel getting bounced, being canceled because of his disgusting comments about Charlie. Do we have those comments? Can you play those for, for the audience and for Mr. Jones?

[Alex Jones]

We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it.

[Eric Bolling]

And that's what it took. Now Alex, you're a smart man. You know Kimmel's ratings have been declining and as were Colbert's, abc, cbs. Now are they bouncing these guys because of ratings or because of what they said about Charlie Kirk? What do you think?

[Mad Dog]

Well, I know, I mean I predicted when Trump first got reelected seven, eight months ago, I said all three of the late night hosts are going to be gone because you look at, you know, the Fox late night show, it has more viewers, all of them combined. They're going to look for a political excuse. Yeah, that's exactly my show. Today I put the headline learn the secret of why Kimmel was fired and Colbert, they have less viewers than you and I do in our first, you know, segment. It's a delusion. So they're not going to pay. The big banks, the big corporations are going to pay for a facade that doesn't deliver. And so I predict the View is going to be gone. I Predict, you know, CNN's already trying to reprogram, it's over. And so they're trying to say, oh, we're censored. And it came out years ago that Chuck Schumer, the Democrats, send talking points to Kimmel and Colbert and that their writers basically write off of that. And so they use his horrible thing saying a right winger killed Kirk. And you know, him making jokes about it that were totally disgusting. You watch Full Club as an excuse to get rid of them. But they were just waiting because I was reading like Colbert was paid 50 million a year, 100 plus million to produce the show. I mean, we have shows that cost a few million to produce a year, that have bigger audiences already. I mean, I'm not trying to brag, I know you have a big show, but my show, even censored, you know, years ago, still had 20 million a day. That's like 50, 100 million a day on radio, you know, Internet, everything. So you can't keep track of it. So these people are a facade. They're a joke. This wasn't Trump going in and removing these shows. You know, Trump suing the networks for lying about him. He should. But at the end of the day, they woke up dead. They were already in the coffin, buried years ago. No viewers to speak of with the budgets they had. So they're losers. So using political excuses, as you just said, to get rid of them.

[Eric Bolling]

Yeah. So it also strikes me the View, they ignored it. They were on today. This. So Kimmel gets bounced last night. Today, the View doesn't even mention it. Abc, the View doesn't mention that they're not Late Night Star was, was pulled because of the Charlie Kerr comments. At least that's what ABC is saying. Here's what really happened. Here's. Let's. Let's talk a little television, shall we, Alex? First it was Nextstar, which is a conglomerate, owns 200 stations, probably owns 30 or 40 ABC stations. I think it was 37 ABC stations. The parent company owns all the local stations. They said those words were discussing, we're pulling that, we're pulling Kimmel. Now, whether it was for the words or for the ratings, who knows? Then Sinclair came and they have probably 40 or so of their own. So you take different markets out of the mix. Kimmel has no audience left, whatever he had left anyway. And then abc, the parent company. The reason why I'm saying this, this is the first time in my history, I've been doing this for 25 years, that I saw a local push up to the parent ABC and they actually got the results that they were looking for. And frankly, man, it's been a long time waiting because there is a lot of people, a lot of folks should be on the hot seat nervous about getting canceled right now by their parent company.

[Mad Dog]

Well, that's right. I mean, you're being accurate here. The final dominoes were the local affiliates saying, we're getting our phones blown off. The ratings are already low. We're still carrying these loser shows. And so they put the final pressure on decisions that I predicted were going to happen. But at the end of the day, it's because of low ratings. If they had high ratings and they were controversial, they would be kept on air. But you can't have high ratings and make fun of American hero that was murdered and get away with that. So it is the final ingredient of public pressure saying, what the hell. On top of bad ratings that did this. And it's a message to them. You know, Trump is now declaring antifa as a terrorist organization. They are. They say, we're going to hurt people, we're going to kill people to intimidate them. So they submit to us. That's the definition of terrorism. Violence or threats of violence for political or cultural economic gain. And so the gloves are off. This is not the Trump administration eight years ago and Trump has had himself didn't know what was going on. He just had a great plan, but didn't know how corrupt it was. This is a whole new ball game. And they're. And Schumer, oh, my God, democracy. We got to keep him on air. That's because Schumer was literally riding the talking points for Kimmel. You can look that up. So this is a joke. But, but, but, but like I said, they just use the pressure as the excuse to finally make the decision that that should have been made. But people say, oh, it's a victory. We've taken these big liars off the air. They didn't have a pulse to begin with. So we're just rec that they were politically dead already.

[Eric Bolling]

Yeah. Another issue would definitely accurate. I just not sure if I rather have which way I'd rather have it. Look, the bottom line is I'm a free marketeer they, they can put any show they. When you sign a contract with these companies, Jimmy Kimmel, Stephen Colbert, Eric Bolling, you sign a contract that says the company can take you off, they'll have to pay you, but they can take you off there anytime they want. So it's not a question of free speech, it's a question of. It's a business decision that they made. And they.

[Mad Dog]

Yeah, well, let's explain that. I mean, let's explain that.

[Eric Bolling]

Go ahead.

[Mad Dog]

Taking a knee during the Star Spangled Banner. Unpopular. The NFL has a right to say, don't do that. At least don't sponsor it officially. And so you're absolutely right. I mean, it's both. But it was already dead. It's like a leaf in the fall. The high wind comes and blows away. The leaf was already dead. The high wind of people pissed him, making jokes about Charlie Kirk's death. That blew the leaf.

[Eric Bolling]

So that bothers me, Alex, because that bothers me because now they're using Charlie Kirk's death as a reason to get rid of dead weight programming that they had on their books anyway. In other words, man up and say, you know what? Final straw. Not because of those comments. And by the way, we don't know if Kimmel's coming back because this is a quote unquote hiatus. We don't know if they're.

[Mad Dog]

No, I agree. They're hiding behind the Kirk thing like it was political.

[Eric Bolling]

Exactly. They're using that to get rid of dead weight as you call, to jettison the flotsam, so to speak. And, and that feels cheap to me, especially knowing Charlie Kirk as well.

[Mad Dog]

Of course, that's what they do. That's what they do. But we know corporate media is dead. Cnn, msnbc, been dead forever. So I'm saying they're just recognizing that we're not going to take shows with no ratings. I mean, the clips of Kimmel saying horrible things have 50 times, 100 times the views of his actual show. So it's like I told Brian Stiller once on the phone with Tucker Carlson, his house, we go, let's call Brian and make a joke. And I go, you know, Brian, you were never popular, but me playing clips of you on my show would have 20, 30 million views, every one of them. So you were popular being made fun of, but you, your show wasn't popular. So in a weird way, Kimmel and Colbert are huge stars, but only as clowns.

[Eric Bolling]

Clowns are also in the digital world, clipping stupid comments that they make things that they, you know, Take Shine. That's why they do it. That's what their monologues be back in the day. You're old enough to remember Johnny Carson in some of the old school nighttime hosts. Yeah, they poke fun at the President but in matter if it was president was Republican or Democrat, they, they poke fun at Bill Clinton for, for the, the little intern he had under his desk when they would do it.

[Mad Dog]

But they had their finger on the pulse of populism. Carson was a king with like a third of the, of the, or half the late night viewers. Because he went with the people.

[Eric Bolling]

Yeah.

[Mad Dog]

That's why he had ratings. So when you go against the people and lie, then you're not popular.

[Eric Bolling]

Yeah, yeah. And the point is that they became Kimmel and Colbert. Their whole, their whole shtick was just crapping on Trump. And Matt, I know you're a smart.

[Mad Dog]

Guy, but you can look this up. You know what's come out. The Democrats sent talking points daily to their right.

[Eric Bolling]

No, I've heard this. Oh, we, I not only to, to the late night host but also to the morning hosts. And if you know anything about tv, you'll know there are two times of the day that you move the needle politically. It's in the morning. That's why the morning shows look happy and fun. They're definitely giving you a full dose, a full dose of whatever medicine they want you to be taking. And then the late night, late night shows are always there to, to keep you in the seat so that when you go to sleep, turn off the tv tomorrow morning you turn it back on. It's on Kimmel's ABC and you see Good Morning America. That, that's the little secret. But that, that seems to be.

[Mad Dog]

So the larger question is you're a smart media guy. What comes out of this? Now that the facade has collapsed, what do they do?

[Eric Bolling]

Now they're going to have to earn, earn it because digital just showed them that they, they can't just turn on the tv, put any crap up there and people will watch it and buy the, buy the products anymore. So they're going to have to start earning it. Alex, I love this conversation. Can you stick around through a break? Because I want to bring you back and I want to talk about some. I have a theory about Charlie Kirk's assassin. I have a theory. I like to, I like the guy who knows a lot about theories to weigh in on it. You okay to stick around? Cool. All right, 100%. I thought something's coming. Listen, I told you it was going to Be the edge. I, I didn't tell you exactly what the edge is. You know what? Brett Favre will tell you what the edge is. Do you think had you knock on to the rehab things, you wouldn't have won the Super Bowl? You may have played different that year?

[Mad Dog]

I think my career would have been shortened considerably because I was definitely spiraling.

[Eric Bolling]

Out of control with no end in sight.

[Mad Dog]

You know, 16. 16 would have been 18, 18 would have been 20.

[Eric Bolling]

That's the edge right there. The edge is. You're on. The edge could go either way. And the edge is sharp. It could slice you in half. Or you figure out how to tame the fire and own it. And you did that. You did exactly that at that moment. That's, that's powerful.

[Mad Dog]

Powerful.

[Eric Bolling]

And let's bring back the host of Infowars, the Alex Jones Show, Mr. Alex Jones. By the way, you can find that show on, on X as well. He does a great job. You get a massive audience on X. Alex, this. I have a theory. I brought this out a couple of days ago. I think people are not sure they like it or not, but I think this, this, this, this shooter, this is alleged assassin guy. Tyler Robinson couldn't have acted alone. Here's why. He takes a shot. Perfect shot. Lines up perfectly. Okay, maybe he was that good of a shot. Got it. But immediately a 72 year old guy named Zinn stands up and says, I did it. He creates a diversion. Everyone looks over there. Cops arrest him. All the go there. And the assassin gets off the roof. And then a nut job stands up in front while everyone's down on the ground.

[Mad Dog]

Right in front.

[Eric Bolling]

Right there, Right there. We have a. We had a kid standing right next to him on the show. He said that was odd because as soon as that shot happened, he stood up. And if you're a human being worried about an assassin's bullets, you don't make yourself a bigger target like that. Okay, then let me add one more thing, Mad Dog. Let's go to the full screen of these texts. Now, Alex, listen to these texts. I don't know about you, but you want to talk about a conspiracy? The. That may hold some water here.

[Mad Dog]

Sounds like chat. Sounds like chat. GPT wrote it.

[Eric Bolling]

Well, even, even more so. Look what they've done. I'm still okay, my love. The guy to the other guy room, it says, were you the one who did it? I am. I'm sorry. Admission of guilt right there. I thought they caught the person. So then roommate, the Robinson says no, they grabbed some crazy old dude then interrogated someone in similar clothing. He puts himself in the lobby in the theater to have taken the shot. Okay, so now you've got an admission. I was actually there. I can prove I was there. And then why? Why did I do it? Yeah, I had enough of his hatred. Robinson said, there's your motive. Now you've got a motive. And then one more, Alex. This is the one that kills. This is one that makes all the sense to me. How long have you been planning this? And he says a bit over a week. There's premeditation. Those are all the things you need for slam dunk. First degree murder, premeditated first degree murder case and throw that guy into, into the, into the firing squad. I think Utah has a firing squad. So it's really, really feels to me, Alex, that there's a bigger cabal than just some guy who was trying to defend his, his boyfriend, roommate.

[Mad Dog]

I 100% agree with you. So here's the deal. I've interviewed state reps that were on the ground. They literally talked to Kirk Metz before he was killed. I've interviewed a bunch of other law enforcement sources, you name it. And you got clearly this guy on video on the roof. But then the gun here and there doesn't match up. And you got everything else that's involved. But we know that NGOs, Democratic Party and the UN were funding this trantifa antifa that was there. We know six trannies said two days before, the day before he'll be dead, Charlie Kirk tomorrow.

[Eric Bolling]

Yeah, there's, so there's some, there's, there's some text on, on Discord that say he'll be dead soon. Yes, go ahead.

[Mad Dog]

Well, yeah, but it was also posted publicly. Then they said the day after or the day we told you we were going to kill him. So then I was talking to the state rep and others and it's in the local news. He's seen jumping off the roof and getting in a car and driving away. And so obviously, and then you have the Democrats calling for Kirk's murder, celebrating his murder, then Kimmel trying to say it's a right winger. So clearly you know the guy three weeks ago that shot up in Minneapolis, Minnesota, the Catholic mass of kids, you know, that was real. You've got the last, you know, seven, eight, nine of these attacks. So definitely these groups are there. But then you look at the NGOs, you look at the tranny mafia in the NSA that Tulsi Gabbard's exposed. You look at them, did they piggyback Obviously you have people in the crowd chanting killed Charlie Kirk. You had them saying he'll be dead tomorrow. You had this zen guy who's this big leftist operative literally jumping up and saying I killed him, I killed him. And then telling police I did it so he'd get away. How did he know to do that? Then I talked to the state rep, others, there were all these goths and devil worshiper types with pentagrams around their necks. I remember him yesterday literally laughing and saying good job to the shooter and celebrating. So yeah, if you don't think elements of the government or the NSA knew about this, this was a big planned event. So I think he was involved. Just like crooks. We now know from experts and the, and the, and the acoustics and the witnesses and the bullets. It wasn't just crooks in Pennsylvania. There was another shooter out by the water tower in the woods. So I believe some other group piggyback. Well we have Podesta in his plan in August 2020 saying if Trump wins, we're going to launch blue state secession, civil war, all this. Then when Trump was about to win again, they said okay, we're implement the plan. So clearly he had help. Clearly NGOs were fighting him. That's confirmed. And so that, and so the FBI says they're investigating people that had prior knowledge. No, they knew. So if the FBI doesn't go in and raid all those people and expose the obvious conspiracy and support, then we know there's a cover up. But, but, but absolutely this is going on and you got the black colleges being evacuated after Charlie was killed with fake phone calls. They admit to tell them, you know, Charlie Kirk, white supremacists are coming to kill you. He's ever white supremacist. They're pre programming I believe, false flags against migrant demonstrations and against traditionally black colleges because remember Carville and all the Democrats said right when Trump won, Trump's coming when he was president elect to kill black people. Where are they? Traditional black college or church. They're coming to kill migrants. That's a demons. So the last ingredient I believe is the false flag a migrant demonstration or a black college and blame Trump. And that's the Bethesda plan. Look it up. I mean this is in the New York Times to literally have western states, blue states secede and the movie Civil War they produced and released last year. This is their plan. So that's the fingerprints I see on this is this is a potential detonator for this. That's why Trump must declare he says he is Antifa is a domestic terror group because they say, again, we are going to intimidate you. We're going to attack you. You have Destiny. This podcaster is very popular saying we need to kill more Republicans. So they're scared.

[Eric Bolling]

That lunatic, that lunatic, this Destiny guy, whoever. I don't know what his real name. That. That guy is an absolute nacho. He's the. He is sparking up some serious hate. That guy's serious. He's basically blaming everyone for Charlie's murder. Everyone on the right. Not. No, none of the. None of the trans people or the trans, you know, network. That's. That We. We can now prove wide open that they're connected. None of those. Yeah.

[Mad Dog]

And I want to be clear. I have been a critic of Netanyahu on some of the things he's done. Okay? So I'm an American first, but I'm not anti Israel. I just don't yet to address the world today and say he didn't kill Charlie Kirk. There's no evidence of that. Just because Charlie was having some fights over Gaza or whatever. That's totally normal. So we're in the position.

[Eric Bolling]

This is a very, very big issue you're touching on right now. So now the way this kind of got went viral, so to speak, is a good friend of mine for many, many years, Candace Owens. She and Charlie were the original two faces of TP usa. Candace went off and got. Got into her own thing, whatever, but she's. She had been blaming the. The blaming Israel, maybe Netanyahu, maybe Mossad. And she brought Bill Ackman in and said Bill and Charlie Kirk at a Hamptons event. Well, Ackman pushed back hard. There wasn't a threat. A lot of people who were in Charlie's camp said there was no threat there. And Candace has since, in one day turned it from it was Israel to it was the feds. So we have to be very careful who we point the finger at, unless you just want your reputation to go up in smoke. But it's bothering me that she said she was very definitive, that she believed Israel was behind this assassination without any real credible evidence.

[Mad Dog]

Yeah, I like Candace too. We actually discovered her and first had her on my show 10 years ago. And I. And I like Candace a lot. I think she's hurt by this, and I'm not. But, but, but here's the deal. You have everybody having debates. That's what we do as conservatives. But overall, Charlie was pro Israel. There's just not proof Israel did it. We have The Democrats saying kill Charlie Kirk, celebrating his death. These tranny mafias in Antifa killing people all over the place, attacking border patrol, killing border patrol, shooting up isolates. So all I'm saying is right now the onus is on them. And then, yeah, you have these Islamic groups, they're not bragging. They knew that Israel didn't do it. They said it to attack Israel. They hijacked it. They've confessed to it on Piers Morgan. And my issue is credibility. Okay, so people question Sandy Hook. I never said it didn't happen until the Internet questioned it. I only covered their questions that I got sued into oblivion.

[Eric Bolling]

Stay here with me. Just stay, just stay here because I only have about two minutes left, Alex, and this is a very important question. You're right. This needs to be investigated fully. All these little avenues. I never heard of Trentifa, but man, we need to find out who the heck they are and if they're tied to Antifa. Are you comfortable and confident, okay, that Cash Patel, Dan Bongino and Pam Bondi will get to the true. Not this conspiracy.

[Mad Dog]

No, I'm not. No I'm not. Because, no, I'm not.

[Eric Bolling]

Killed Charlie Kirk.

[Mad Dog]

No, I'm not. I met with the Justice Department a lot, a lot of good people there. The, the FBI is still full of leftist and just career people that are cowards. And so I'm not. And, and, and, and so if we don't see raids and investigations of the people that had prior knowledge, then it's a cover up. I'm not confident, Pam. Bodies like banned hate speech, well, that means free speech. You know, all this is very, very scary. All I know is the left saying we're going to kill conservatives. They're out there celebrating and then when it happens, we're immediately supposed to be told it's Netanyahu with no evidence. I'm not even here to defend Netanyahu. It's just it to me it's absolutely crazy. We have the left, we have Black Lives Matter, we have the Islamicists saying they're going to have uprisings, praising it, they're admitting it. And so I'm saying I'm focusing on that and I see evidence of somebody involved, that's fine. And I don't know why Netanyahu came out and said he didn't kill Charlie Kirk. That's a Streisand effect. This is completely insane. But it shows how Israel's PR is so sideways and you know, they need to reassess what they're doing. But at the End of the day, Candace can ask any questions she wants and people are questioning the official story. That's totally healthy. All I know is the left is in giant uprisings already. They want blood. So we should be addressing what they're planning to do and the next attacks that are coming and, and you know, so that's my bottom line.

[Eric Bolling]

Yeah, I, I, I, we're up. We see eye to eye, Alex, on this, we see eye to eye. Some of the other things maybe not, but it's you and I see.

[Mad Dog]

Well, not, not. Hold on, Eric. Not misrepresent. The media represents what I said, like Trump hates all Mexicans or Trump loves the kkk. I never did the things they said.

[Eric Bolling]

I mean some of our discussions about the World Trade center, some of the things we've had, we've had, we've had, We've, you know, we've gone and we've had a couple of rounds on your.

[Mad Dog]

Show and that's fair, but we're both real and we're not controlled. I'm at exit real Jones infowars.com for slash show. I love you, Eric. This is an important discussion. It's all about integrity and not jumping on bandwagons to blame groups that we don't know did it. Great. Bottom line, the left wants to kill us. They're admitting it. That's the facts. They're the main suspects.

[Eric Bolling]

That is the way we end this segment because you just nailed it, Mr. Alex Jones, good friend of mine. Thank you, Alex. Appreciate your time, my friend.

[Mad Dog]

Thank you.

[Eric Bolling]

Stay safe, by the way. Hey Alex. Stay safe. Tell Alex stay safe. He's still here. Is he here? Alex, you hear me? Stay safe.

[Mad Dog]

We're definitely all targets.

[Eric Bolling]

Think about what I'm saying. Stay. Keep yourself safe. All right. All right, folks. I realize there are many choices when it comes to who you choose for your cell phone service. And there are new ones popping up all the time. But here's the truth. There's only one that boldly stands in the gap for every American that believes that freedom is worth fighting for. And that's Patriot Mobile. For more than 12 years, Patriot Mobile has been on the forefront the front lines fighting for our God given rights and freedoms while also providing exceptional nationwide, nationwide cell phone service with access to all three of the major networks. Don't just take my word for it. Ask the hundreds of thousands of Americans who've made the switch and are now supporting supporting causes they believe in. Simply by joining Patriot Mobile, switching is easier than ever. Activate in minutes. From the comfort of your own home, keep your number, keep your phone or upgrade. Patriot mobile's all U. S based support team is standing by to take care of you. Call 972 Patriot today. 972 Patriot call it or go to patriotmobile.com Trump UK patriot mobile.com Trump UK use promo code Trump UK for a free month of service. That's patriotmobile.com Trump UK or call 972 Patriot make that switch today. We'll be back in two minutes. Foreign dividers of this nation, maybe in the history of this country. Barack Hussein Obama, the man who single handedly ripped this country apart, has decided to weigh in on Charlie Kirk's assassination. And it's just as tone deaf and lacking in self awareness that you would imagine it would be coming from Barack Obama. Combative, divisive, harmful. Check, check, check. All of the hallmarks of an Obama moment as always. Barack Obama has seized on a pivotal moment in our history because he just can't help himself in the most Obama of ways. He decided to pour gasoline on the fire of Charlie Kirk's death with the.

[Mad Dog]

Most Obama of lies as President of the United States.

[Barack Obama]

My response was not who planned who, who may have influenced this troubled young man to engage in that kind of violence and now let me go after my political opponents and use them.

[Eric Bolling]

Wow, stones and glass houses, huh, Barack? How about total and utter bs? It's actually disturbing, not just shocking. It's disturbing how much Obama lied through that interview. For Barack Obama to say that he never came after his opponents, well, that's a lie that we can unpack, but we will in a moment. But for him to imply he never politicized these kinds of tragedies is outright brutal dishonesty at the highest of levels. Hey Barry, is this you making it political and dividing the country right after a shooting? President Obama, an organ shooting? This is a political choice that we make. Sounds like it is. Have we forgotten how divisive this man was as president? And now we know Obama, Barack Obama for what he is and for what he did to the country. And it's not enough that it turns out to be factual that Obama pushed an investigation on President Trump's supposed collusion with Russia, which he already knew never happened. This guy wants to talk about not going after his political opponents. He was looking to not only stop Donald Trump from being president, but he was part of a treasonous couple to take away Trump's freedom as well and his whole life savings. And despite us knowing all of that, Barack Obama has the nerve to Say.

[Barack Obama]

This, have to recognize that on both sides, undoubtedly there are people who are extremists and who say things that are contrary to what I believe are America's core values. But I will say that those extreme views were not in my White House. I wasn't embracing them, I wasn't empowering them. I wasn't putting the weight of the United States government behind extremist views. And that.

[Eric Bolling]

Is.

[Barack Obama]

When we have the weight of the United States government behind extremist views, we've got a problem.

[Eric Bolling]

So that is a filthy damn lie. The race baiting, division, stoking that was all ignited during the Obama presidency. When running for president, Barack Obama pretended to be a moderate. He pretended to love the country. Boy, did he have us fooled, didn't he? At least half of them. He presented himself as a moderate, but was anything but moderate once he made his way into the Oval Office. Obama was never a uniter. He wanted discussions, but only on his terms. He portrayed himself as reasonable and then acted unreasonably. He left this country more divided than ever on his way out after he won on a campaign filled with slogan words like change and hope, Barack Obama would go on to create the violent party that we see today in the Democrats. For eight straight years, he set the tone with his angry, divisive, anti American rhetoric and race baiting rants, fanning the flames of racial division. You can thank Barack Obama for the summer of mostly peaceful riots in 2020. Barack Obama and Black Lives Matter set race relations in this country back hundreds of years. Not 100 years, hundreds of years. All in the name of politics and power. You can believe that when you divide, you divide and conquer. And that was their plan. They were very divisive. And now this pathetic excuse of a former president wants to talk about extremism. Judging people by the content of their character and not the color of their skin is not extreme. It's just a position you and the left you created, you disagreed with. So you demonize us, believing that the Constitution guarantees us limited government and personal liberty. Well, that's not extreme, Obama. That's what it's written. It's God given in the Constitution. Written. Believing that owning firearms is a natural God given right that allows the physically weak to protect themselves from stronger predators or a government, a tyrannical government. Well, that's not extreme, Barack. It's written in the Constitution. Believing that nations have borders that they're entitled to control and protect. Not extreme either. Believing there are only two genders. Not extreme. By the way, Barack Obama, you Used to believe there were two genders until you became president. Then you said, man. I think I'm going to rethink that. Believing that people should face the consequences of their own bad decisions and reap the rewards of their own good decisions. While that's simply meritocracy, not extremism. Believe that lawfare is wrong at the government, and government leaders like you should not weaponize the justice system against your political opponents like Trump or us. We could have been next. Well, that's not extreme either. Believing that violent criminals need to be locked away. Not extreme. In fact, most people in the country want that. Believing free speech can never be disinformation. Not extreme. Believing that the USA is sovereign and needs not to bow down to global policies. Also not extreme. But it was under your. Under your eight years that you pushed all of these agendas. Before Obama, those were almost all moderate positions that almost all Americans routinely agreed with. Tough to disagree with any of those. The crime, the border, the sexes. But the Marxist that he is created a society where murdering Charlie Kirk is openly celebrated. By who? Not those on the right, those on the left. The Democrat party. His party. So who's really extreme here? The damage Obama has done and continues to do to the country, incalculable. His open embrace of radical leftist policies, his incessant fomenting of racism, and his tacit approval of the violent revolutionary left marks him as one of the greatest villains in American history. Never forget it. Five days before he was elected Barack Obama. We are going to fundamentally change America. And they still elected him anyway. All right, folks. Am I reading this Mad Dog? Is this me right here? Yes. When inflation jumps. 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But no, he had to smear Charlie's name anyway with Crybaby Kimmel and timeout. It didn't take long for some of the deranged Democrat friends of his to rush to his defense. Oh, let's go to Brian Stelter. He was first up and his meltdown on CNN is definitely worth worth a watch.

[Brian Stelter]

But let's back up and look at what Kimmel actually said on the program that has caused controversy. This is from Monday night. In his Monday evening monologue, Kimmel suggested that the alleged killer of Charlie Kirk might have been a pro Trump Republican. He said, quote, the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it. He said in between the finger pointing, there was grieving. Kimmel was expressing what we've heard some other liberals say in recent days that the motives are unclear and that maybe the suspect in this case is was a Republican or was some sort of far right fringe figure. Of course, there has been a lot of discussion about that in recent days. There's a lot of evidence pointing in other directions about the suspect. But Kimmel was on the air talking about this, making a very serious commentary amid his jokes in his monologue Monday night.

[Eric Bolling]

Yeah, well, I think we took, I think we took that apart in the Alex Jones segment. Earlier in the show, Sultan went on accusing Republicans and pro Trump allies of targeting Kimmel and ABC even though Republicans had nothing to do with this at all. Jake Tapper even jumped in, tried to help the baseless argument get to the finish line. Listen to the rest of this mess.

[Jake Tapper]

What he said specifically was, quote, the MAGA gang is desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it. That can be read in several ways, that could be heard in several ways. It could also be, it could also be argued, he's saying that what the MAGA gang is doing is just trying to make sure that they don't have any ownership of it, not necessarily that this killer, this horrible person was part of them.

[Brian Stelter]

I think you're making a very important point. You're making a very important point. And let's take it a little bit step further. This was all on Monday night. Nobody seemed to notice this yesterday. Jake, this all erupted in the past few hours when the Trump aligned FCC chairman decided to point at it. Now, I've heard from him in the past few minutes, Brendan Carr thanking nexstar for doing the right thing by yanking the show. He has not yet commented on ABC yanking the show altogether across the entire country. But let's remember that when Stephen Colbert show was canceled over the summer, what did President Trump say? He said, next up will be an even less talented Jimmy Kimmel. It is clear that pro Trump allies have been trying to target ABC over Kimmel for several weeks now. And tonight they've prevailed.

[Eric Bolling]

He's just not funny. Kimmel's just not funny. That's it. He stopped being funny. The meltdown over Kimmel's cancellation continues to pour in. Chuck Schumer didn't take the news too well. In fact, he joined CNN and had his own meltdown. Here's the clip.

[Brian Stelter]

Schumer, your reaction to this?

[Chuck Schumer]

It is outrageous. It's a page right out of Xi's playbook. This is just despicable, disgusting and against democratic values. Trump and his allies seem to want to share shut down speech that they don't like to hear. That is not what democracies do. That is what autocracies do. And it doesn't matter whether you agree with Kimmel or not. He has the right to free speech. And so it is just outrageous. It is indicative of autocracy and I am just outraged by it. Again, this is what dictators do. This is what Xi would do. This is what Putin would do. We are not that country.

[Eric Bolling]

Who she, who's he calling Xi? Xi.

[Mad Dog]

Kidding.

[Eric Bolling]

Chinese President Xi Jinping, cnn, the House of Meltdowns also booked Representative Robert Garcia to cry about Jimmy Kimmel. He went on the network to lash out and complain. But just like all of his peers, Garcia forgot to condemn what Kimmel actually said. They just want to bitch and moan about Kimmel getting bounced.

[Brian Stelter]

Watch when you see that Jimmy Kimmel is gone because of that, does that even hit harder home to you?

[Representative Robert Garcia]

Look, I'm honestly, this is very concerning. I think first, Jimmy Kimmel is a late night host, he's a comedian. We have the First Amendment in this country. Folks have the right to say what's on their mind and certainly in a monologue on a late night show. And I think anyone that's going to listen and watch that clip, I mean, it's pretty clear that this is a direct attack on free speech. And it's one thing for all of us to unite and talk about political violence and denouncing political violence. It's another now to target people who you may not agree their opinion with or that you don't like what they have to say. What's happening right now in these attacks on universities, attacks on people in their job because we don't like what they say, we're policing every word. This is an extreme example now and another direct attack on the media. And I think one thing is important to be said at this moment. Donald Trump has been in a systematic way attacking the media, causing harm, impacting the way people believe and interact with the new, with news, gathering what people are saying. And he continues and continues to tear media and media institutions down.

[Mad Dog]

Democrat.

[Eric Bolling]

Representative Garcia, did you mention that Kimmel trashed the memory of Charlie Kirk and blamed MAGA for Charlie Kirk's assassination? Did you mention that at all? No. Just trying to do politics, right? Just trying to do politics. You lose your Democrats. Don Lamond isn't taking the Jimmy Kimmel news very well either. Lamont, who jumps on every trend he can as desperately as he can to stay relevant, posted a rant online immediately after learning the news about Kimmel. Take a listen to what this almost forgotten guy had to say.

[Don Lamond]

Jimmy Kimmel.

[Eric Bolling]

Jimmy Kimmel.

[Don Lamond]

They're trying to cancel Jimmy Kimmel. I'm sure you've heard the news by now, but I've been going through the Internet looking for the clips to see what they're mad or upset about, and I can't find it. These are the. I can't find it.

[Eric Bolling]

The one that they have on there.

[Don Lamond]

I don't see where that's even controversial. The guy's a comedian. This is the same Party. The same group of people who complained about everything is too woke. Comedians can't say anything anymore. They're killing comedy. The folks who are complaining about killing comedy are killing comedy. The folks who are complaining about canceling people are canceling people. What does that tell you? That they don't believe in anything that they're saying, that they've said, that they have no core. All it is, is if it doesn't fit their particular ideology or belief, then they don't want to hear it. And that's the moment.

[Eric Bolling]

It's a little different though. I mean, I, I do get the point about Kimmel. He's just being, trying to be funny. But I, I just, that's why I don't believe that they can't they cancel. I'm not sure they're canceling Kimmel. They, they canceled Colbert. I'm not sure they. They're canceling Kimmel just yet. And if they are, I don't think it's over Charlie Kirk. I think it's because the ratings suck and they blaming the Charlie Kirk assassination. Four. They gave him. It gave them an out, gave them a reason, like at least an acceptable reason for some of the audience members to say, okay, we get it now. But the reality is these things cost hundreds of millions of dollars to produce and they don't produce nearly that amount in ad revenues. In very quickly, other news, Jasmine Crockett back to her fear mongering, race baiting, which she loves to do. Congresswoman doesn't feel safe in America. And she's really pissed about the people who do feel safe. Listen to this confusion from the dumbest congresswoman in America director. And frankly, when people sit around and say things like, oh, you know, we're happy because now we feel safe, I don't know who feels safe in this country except for the white supremacist. Because I specifically, as a black woman, definitely don't feel. The white supremacists feel. They're the only people who feel. I feel I'm not a white supremacist. I feel safe. Don't you feel safe? I feel feel safe. I know people in D.C. feel a little bit safer right now. Memphis is probably getting a little bit safer right now too. Maybe soon Chicago will feel a little safer. And I'm sure all those people there are white supremacists. In fact, I think a lot of them are minorities. Jazzy jazz. All right, folks. All right here. Let's do this here. I gotta go here. I gotta find. Here it is. The edge. Go to this page. Go to this YouTube page. Just go it right there, Eric. Bowling Edge. Just go. Just go to that page, will you? All right. Subscribe to the Edge. I had Brett Favre on. He defines the edge. We didn't even know this was happening. This happened, and this show just went live today. Go. Do you think had you knock on to the rehab things, you wouldn't have won the Super Bowl? You may have played different that year? I think my career would have been.

[Mad Dog]

Shortened considerably because I was definitely spiraling out of control with no end in sight. You know, 16. 16 would have been 18. 18 would have been 20.

[Eric Bolling]

That's the edge right there. The edge is. You're on the edge could go either way. And the edge is sharp. It could slice you in half. Or you figure out how to tame the fire and own it. And you did that. You did exactly that at that moment. That's. That's powerful.

[Mad Dog]

Powerful.

[Eric Bolling]

All right. Then he put up that full screen. Because I'm watching you guys, you, you rumbles, you get her, you rev chats, you guys are all over when I ask you for voicemails. Just want you to subscribe to that page right there, see how you guys do. See? We'll be back two and a half. Hey, we have a surprise for you, because you're going to subscribe. We're gonna get Steve Bannon after the break. Alrighty. As promised, before the break. And I'm gonna check on you, see what you did on subscribing. But Mr. Stephen K. Bennett is with us. He's back. He's the man, the myth, the legend, the. The guru, the. The don of the maga movement, Stephen K. Bannon. Steve, can we just play a little bit of sound that ABC is. Is saying that's the reason why they're pulling Kimmel. Watch.

[Alex Jones]

We had some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk is anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it.

[Eric Bolling]

And so, just so folks understand, first was Nexstar, which owns 37 ABC stations. It's the parent company. They pulled them off those 37. Sinclair, my friend David Smith pulled his 40. Kimmel off his 40. And then the parent company said, you know what? This is getting bad. They pulled Kimmel. Your thoughts on why they did it? Let's put it that way. Why do you think they did this?

[Steve Bannon]

Well, they did it because of the misinformation. I think the affiliates. This is before even the FCC chairman talked about pulling their license. I think the affiliates are too big. Affiliate groups, folks got to understand in the television business, this is why you watch movies like network and other things. They always talk about the affiliates. Roger Ailes was a genius in working the affiliates of the Fox network. Right, for. To make sure that that part of the Fox News got out. He was always an affiliates guy. He's very smart. Everywhere he went, the affiliates is where the cash is. But that's also local advertisers and I think, I think the local advertisers, people just realize that the country's shifting MAGA and people just tired of it. So I think it was a business decision from the two big affiliate groups, Eric, and that rolled all the way. They could hear that all the way in the halls of corporate power in Disney.

[Eric Bolling]

Interesting note. Before, after Fox, I went to Sinclair, who owned 220 stations. ABC, NBC, CBS and Fox stations. They have 40 ABC stations. We had a very conservative show, much like this one right here. And the local news directors in all these little towns and cities where there was an affiliate ABC or NBC or cnn, they were pissed at us. They were mad at the parent company for putting a conservative show on. My point is this. Now maybe these news directors are getting it from their own audiences. Like, hey, you can't continue to trash Trump and MAGA because half of us are maga. They weren't like that five years ago.

[Steve Bannon]

No, things have changed. I mean, at Sinclair now they have Eric Bolling. Remember they had Boris Epstein doing, I think the minute every day.

[Eric Bolling]

That's right.

[Steve Bannon]

That they went crazy. Things have shifted. This is why you're seeing the shifting of demographics. You see, listen, we won in 24 in a blowout because we brought in Make America Healthy Again. You've got Charlie Kirk's young people. It's a very different demographic. The MAGA movement has risen to the occasion, become, I think, the most powerful political movement from scratch in American history. And the folks on Wall street and corporate America are telling you this. This is a huge deal. Jimmy Kimmel is one of the worst of the worst. He's a terrible guy. He's been doing this for years. What he did the other day was just a smear on Charlie Kirk in the MAGA movement. And finally, people that have capital at work, people that are concerned about their shareholder value, call up Disney said, hey, we don't want to hear it. You can make it every night and put it out over the air. Nobody will pick it up. The two biggest affiliate groups said we're out. And then Jimmy Kimmel was out.

[Eric Bolling]

Not much keeps me up at night just knowing that someone assassinated Charlie Kirk. Shocking. What keeps me up at night is Stephen K. Bannon. Are you, like, I would consider you the thought leader now of the MAGA movement? Are you, Are you protecting yourself? I'm very serious about this. Are you protecting yourself? I don't want.

[Steve Bannon]

No, no, no. Yeah, I can see that. I can see mediate right now, Eric. Bowling fingers banded. No, it's. I've always had security ever since. Ever since I won the Trump campaign in 16, I've always had security. So you just have to be. You have to keep your head about your. But what you can't do is stop what we're doing. Listen, this is called in radical politics. And this is why I was so brave of President Trump last night to announce he's designated antifa and therefore the subs their subsidy of our subsidiary, which is this trans militia group, these trans radicals, as a, as a major terrorist organization, not domestic. A major terrorist organization. That means global. He'll be getting to all that, Eric, and really getting to the bottom of it. Of what you have to. But what they, in those revolutionary circles, they call this direct action, right? Assassinations, bombings, you know, terrorist attacks. We have to make sure that we're not prepared, we don't flinch in the face of this. Because what they want to do is have fewer gatherings, have all that, you know, and people, you know, just curl up in the fetal position. That's not going to happen. We are going to finish what we started. I think you've seen President Trump as FCC director. These affiliate groups, people are finally saying, we've had a belly full of these radicals. They're trying to, they're trying to destroy the country. And now it's time to take them on head on and let's get rid of this color revolution in our own country.

[Eric Bolling]

Tell you what. I have a theory. I want to. I don't have time. I'd love to hear your thoughts on my theory at some point that I don't think this was a lone. Lone wolf. Schuler. I think this was a complete conspiracy. There's a bunch of. A bunch of people. No way. Especially that text. But we'll do this another time. I'll do it offline with you at some point. And I'm trying.

[Steve Bannon]

I, I would, I, I, I would. We'll have you on the show because I'll tell you there is.

[Eric Bolling]

This is an I Heart podcast.