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This is an iHeart podcast. All right, folks, that's it. There's the bell. New York Stock Exchange is closed. Very quickly, recap. Stocks across the board, very strong day. The Dow, the NASDAQ, the S& P, all making record highs today. Fantastic day in the markets. People are very happy about the way the economy is going. Cryptocurrency, not so much. All of them across the board backed off quite a bit. Gold was up, oil was flat. So we got that taken care of. I wanted to take a minute here because we are here at the Turning Point USA TPUSA compound. We're inside the compound here. Offices are right here. Charlie Kirk made it his home every day here. If I could get Jarvis or cameraman just to swing and take a look at the massive crowds that have put up a makeshift vigil for Charlie Kirk. It goes blocks and blocks and blocks of flowers and balloons and flags and TP USA flags and Trump flags, and it's just amazing outpouring of emotion. I'm here because I was in. You can bring it back over here, Jarvis. I'm here because I was invited by Charlie's inner circle of close friends who. And people who work with TPUSA who said, come, come to this memorial as our guest. Special guest night. I was just feet from the people making such emotional cries for unity to bring the country together in Charlie's wake. It was an amazing moment yesterday, and it is amazing moment here. I just, you know, been on the board of one of the boards of TP USA since 2019. I remember forget early 2019, maybe January. So I get a call, I'm in the car going to a restaurant from a show, and it's Charlie who says, well, yeah, on my board, it'll be the advisory board. I said, yeah, call me, sign me up, Charlie, you're on to some amazing things. And. And I've been on various boards here since then, and now I'm on an honorary board here. But last week I made a comment about Candace Owens and I just want to clarify, I said this. I hadn't seen her for a long time around the TPUSA events and whatnot, and a lot of people hit me up and said, no, she was of April of 2024. She did a speech. I've been doing speeches on these TPUSA stages for years. I forgot that she was there. So listen, I just wanted to say clarify that a little bit. Just a timeline correction. Was 18 months ago. My bad slip my mind. A few minutes ago, I had my good friend Andrew Colvett, he's the executive producer of the Charlie Kirk show, came out, we greeted, we hugged, got a little emotional. What a great guy. Here's a. Just a brief snippet of that. I'm here with Andrew Colbert, the executive producer of Charlie Kirk show and spokesperson. Just doing a great job, Andrew. You guys put an amazing memorial together yesterday. How you holding up?
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We are, you know, one day at a time, but I can tell you that we feel the prayers of people we've never met all over the country, all over the world, and they're holding us up. And I think proof point in that is what we did in six days. An event that should have taken six months to plan. We did it in six days, and the team deserves all the credit. It was amazing, and it's such a tribute to Charlie, but it's also a tribute to his leadership and what he taught all of us. And we carry a piece of him with us. And you saw that on full display yesterday. And the way that we were able to honor him, it's amazing.
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Well, the crowd out here as well. Just a massive memorial outside tpusa. Andrew, doing a great job. Keep up the great work, and let's continue Charlie's legacy, I think. And if there's any question if the legacy of Charlie Kirk will. Will last and will continue on these folks here, proof positive that that will last for many, many decades to come. TPUSA will be the most powerful political action group organization in the world, not just in America. All right, let's bring our first guest. His name is Dave David King. He's the IT Person, I guess I'm not really sure of the exact title. He can. He can tell us, but he's with amac, am, A C. American association of Mature American Citizens who's got a really special event coming up very soon and all kind of dovetails together. David, I'm sorry, if you can just give us your exact title and title us a little about this. This big event you have coming up.
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IT person works just as well, but I am the chief Technology officer, but yeah, I get my hands dirty still, so it person's perfect. So. And as regards to the event, we've been holding these boot camp we started, we called them boot camp for boomers several years ago, and they were very successful. We bring in thought leaders, elected officials from. From whatever area we're holding these events and bring them in and talk on various types of talk topics that are important to our members mostly. But a few years ago, we realized, you know, we Sponsored One of Charlie Kirk's turning points, the one in Detroit a few years back and we really are trying AMEX always been known as a mature American citizen organization where we focused on what's important to seniors, 65, 50 plus, that type. But what we've been doing is we're trying to bridge that gap. We saw how successful Charlie was with the young people and we wanted to join forces with them. So we've been working with TP USA for a couple of years now. And Charlie, matter of fact we, I have right here, this is our latest magazine. It's about to hit the, the, the homes this week, I believe. And Charlie wrote an article for us. It was, we had to go to print and we had to put in an editor's note that it went to print on September 9th because obviously on the 10th, the tragic events that happened to him. It was amazing to, to just, I, I, I couldn't even express how, how shocked I was when I found out about what had happened. But what we do is we're going to hold this one at Patrick Henry College this Saturday from 12 to 4pm and you can go to AMAC US, it's right there on the homepage or you can go to AMAC US Forward SL Boot Camp where it has more information on the show. You can get your tickets there. It's going to be a great event. We have a lot of RAV personalities. Real America's Voice has been partnering with us for years on these and the great John Solomon's going to be there. We have Ben Berkwam participating on an immigration panel. We also have an election integrity panel and as well as the, you know, the left's ideology to indoctrinate our children into these woke type situations and you know, trans type ideology. So we bring in, like I said, experts in that, that field, but we also bring in local people that are, you know, became activists because of what happened to their child. We have a woman, Stephanie Lundquist, Aurora. She was just a school, you know, a mother of a school child who they tried to transition without her knowing about it. And now she's an activist for it. So we're going to have her come up and tell her story and explain and explain, you know, what she did and how she's got mobilized to fight against this stuff. So I mean, in Virginia, just, I think last month or like three weeks ago, five school districts doubled down on their, you know, allowing men in women's bathrooms in the public school system. So we, we discuss all this. Some people don't know what's going on. The normal person doesn't have the wherewithal. You know, there's so much information disinformation. We try to sift through that and teach them how to get involved, how to become a poll watcher, how to become a committeeman in your local area, things like that.
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So tell us, how long is this boot camp last? Is this a sleepaway camp for, you know, patriotic citizens and it's a couple of days. No. Tell us about it.
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Well, based off a trial and error, we found the sweet spot is about four hours. Our first one, we did a little longer. We had a launch and things like that. And we found, like, the, the interest level kind of dies off after about five hours. So we try to compact this and get some really powerful information and message across to the people. And then we have, you know, a small reception afterwards where some of the people can meet the, the speakers and discuss. And as well as other groups. Some of these groups have, you know, never really been put in touch with each other. And so you see a lot of traction out of there. You see groups forming alliances and things like that. It's very special, and it's always a good time. Our Rebecca Weber, our CEO, and John Solomon have been emceeing it since its inception. And it's just, we try to make it fun, but we also, you know, it's a serious. They're all serious topics we're talking about. And, you know, so we try to make it fun and interesting and give the, Give the people some gifts, you know, a little, little swag bag when they come through the door. From our benefit partners, AMEX got some great benefit partners, and they're always sponsoring these events, which allows us to keep them going.
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David. So, so I'm not going to see John Solomon riding a horse or start a campfire. I was looking.
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I mean, we could ask him.
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Knowing John, he'd do it. Maybe some little adult activities.
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He would, yeah.
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He would.
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He would not. Yeah, Dr. G is going to be there, too.
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The goal is, the goal is to get some of these folks out into the community and, and kind of spread that word because, you know, Trump is coming down with all, a lot of rules, executive orders, and he's, he's trying to push the country in the right direction. It feels like our school systems, our universities, some of the liberal outposts, are just trying to hold a breath and wait till Trump is no longer president and they're going to revert back to their old ways. Is this teaching Folks how to get it out into the community. Is that what this is about?
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That's exactly right. We, like I said, we teach people how. Like one of our panels, which is a consistent panel for all of our boot camps is our amac has a 501C4 called AMAC Action. And there really are boots on the ground in Washington and in these local communities. And AMAC Action holds a panel and teaches people. We have programs where we have ambassadors and delegates and we give you all the tools and the information, webinars we set together webinars for a group that they can put together on a specific topic. So AMEC Action is a great place to start. You don't have to, you know, navigate all this myriad of rules and regulations and stuff. AMAC Action already did all of that for you. And you just gotta sign up and we start giving you a little bit of training and teach you how to become an activist. It's pretty, it's easier than you think. A lot of people go, I'm only one person. What can I do? And I used to be like, no one person can make a difference. And now my new saying, when someone says, I'm only, I'm going, Charlie Kirk was only one person as well. And look what he did. And that's, that's, that's the mantra moving forward. If someone, you know, you know what I mean? So that's, we're trying to empower people to say, hey, look, you may only be one person, but you can make a difference. You one person at a poll watching station and you see some funny business going on and you report it, guess what? You just made a difference.
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Yeah. Becomes the, the conservative army, so to speak. On screen. Tell us again, AMAC us.
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Is that what it was?
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AMAC Us and AMAC us go to the, to, to, to the, the boot camp. You can still get involved with AMEC or even donate to amex. So AMEC us. That's it, David.
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That's it. That's correct.
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Very good. All right, we'll leave it there. Mr. David Kane, AMAC Boot Camp for patriots. Let's call it citizens, but patriots as well. I might have to check it out. One of these. Yes. All right, folks.
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Yeah, we'd love to have you at a future one edge.
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Ah, yes, yes, yes, yes. Sorry, we have a little bit of delay. I apologize, David. A little bit, A little bit a delay on this. We're here in Phoenix. We're live just outside of TP usa. Amazing, amazing place. Just amazing place. I saw you have to be here for, for the wrong reason. But we are here anyway. Yes. Final thought.
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Yeah, just, I suggest anyone that's in the area, please come down. It's a great, it's a great afternoon of like minded people and we need more like minded people to get involved. If you're one person, you can make a difference, trust me. Our founder, Dan Weber, AX started it. He was an insurance guy getting ready to retire and he didn't like what he saw, the way this country was going, specifically through AARP. And now, you know, we have over 2 million members and we're making a difference. And that's from one person, Dan Weber.
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Yeah. Beautiful, beautiful. Now here, let it go here. I met Rebecca years and years ago at a TP USA event. Wonderful group of people, folks. All right, David King, thank you so much for your time. Now I'm going to throw to the Edge. Last week we put up the first show on the Edge. This is a complete, completely different animal. This thing is unbelievable. Grit, perseverance, people who been knocked down 100 times and get up 100 first time and then succeed at it. Brett Favre was our first guest this week. This Thursday we're going to drop Grant Cardone. Here's a little, little snippet. All right. The Edge Episode two. Grant Cardone, who's done amazing things since he came down to South Florida from New York in the real estate market. You want to talk about a fire? The real estate market in South Florida is a cauldron. See how he did it, see how he managed it and see how he came out on top. That's episode two, next week, the Edge.
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All right, we're back here. Turning Point USA campus. Inside the grounds of the campus, you can see one of the buildings here. There's another makeshift memorial for the people who are working with TPUSA here. But then, Jarvis, can you swing back around for just a second and show the massive. I mean, I don't know if you can catch the size of this folks. It goes for blocks in both directions. Both directions. Makeshift. Just an outpouring of emotion for Charlie Kirk. Flags, balloons, hearts TPUSA flags, American flags, Trump flags, just all the things that Charlie represented here. That assassin had no idea what he unleashed when he pulled the trigger on the bullet that killed Charlie Kirk. He opened up an army. He opened up a movement that was strong and growing and now is just unstoppable. These folks are energized. They love Charlie, but they are ready to make sure Charlie's mission and legacy lasts. Like I said, I was here yesterday. I was invited by the group from TPUSA as a guest on the floor and just watched person after person just come with a heartfelt story about Charlie Kirk, one after the other, including. You know, when you think about it, folks, there was an estimated 250, 300,000 people came to the area. Whether it was at the stadium itself, State Farm Stadium, arena, or across the street. There was a overflow that was also sold out, packed. They estimated 250,000 people. That's the size of the city of Charleston, South Carolina, just to come out to pay homage to Charlie Kirk inside. It was amazing. You had half the U.S. government there, you had half the cabinet there, or more. The President was there, the Vice President was there, spoke. You had dozens of Congress people there as well. And just people who love Charlie, people influential, important people who love Charlie. There's some heart wrenching moments, obviously, when Erica Kirk said that she forgave the assassin, that was. There was a lot of tears, a lot of chills and tears in that arena at that moment. I. Mad dog, come on, voice of God, tell me, do we, do we have Chance Gilbert? Yes, sir. All right, Chance Gilbert is here. Chance Gilbert was one of the first people to greet Charlie Kirk at the, the Utah event where Charlie was assassinated. We, I think we have a quick piece of tape. Could you play that video of Charlie coming in? This is taken by Chance Gilbert. Okay, let's bring in Chance Gilbert. He's the, he's the man who took that, that video right there. Chance, tell us, you know, here we are, whatever, 12 hours after the, 15 hours after the memorial for Charlie Kirk, you were there, you saw him come and tell us. Tell us about that day, sir.
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Yeah, so, I mean, it started off me and my buddies just like, it was kind of like a last minute thing that, like the, the night right before, we were like, hey, we should go to that. And then we went, we got there, we got there like, I believe the event was supposed to start at 12, and we got there right around like 11, 11, 15. Ish. And we had just been, just been waiting. We actually Was we're playing a video game on our phones to like kill the time while we were there. And yeah, we just eventually, you know, as the time went on, he came out, I took that video. Like we were all pretty excited.
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Yeah. Then I don't know how, like, how much detail should I go into? I don't know how much time there is for me to explain it.
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We got about, we got about four. Listen, hear me out. You got about three or four minutes here. So you can be a little bit brief, but just tell us the moment it happened and I want your reaction afterwards because there are a few events that happened. An older guy, 72 year old guy got up and said, I did it immediately. Which is very fishy to me. And then, yeah, jumping up in front, making himself a target. Just tell us about the, the shot and the immediate aftermath that you saw that you experienced.
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Yeah, so we. There was the first question that got answered. He left. And then the second guy came up and he asked a question about. I think everyone knows the question, but I'm not gonna try to say it verbatim, but I remember the moment I heard the shot. I, I was right in the front row to the left, you could see in the video, but I heard the shot and my eyes kind of like flicked back to my right. So I'm like, my whole view is towards the entire crowd and I heard the shot and immediately like when something like that happens in a crowd of people like that, you want to like almost question what's going on. Like, that didn't just happen. And so that's what was kind of going through my head. And at first I wanted to downplay it and like think it was some kid like doing a prank. Like in that moment when my eyes flicked away, that's what I was thinking. And I was like. And then I look back and that's when it like actually registers what's going on. And yeah, I mean, the video that got released immediately after, like I saw, I saw all that. And standing 20ft away from.
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So, so just take us through that. Right? You, you saw it? I saw it too. It's, it's, it's shocking. You know, you knew he. And it was confirmed yesterday at the memorial that the doctor said that he had passed immediately, instantaneously as that that bullet pierced important arteries and whatnot. But so immediately after math, I mean, the human nature is self preservation. It's get down, it's dark, it's hide. And you have one guy jumping up saying, I did it. And you have another guy making himself a huge target up front. Did you get a sense that that was odd by any chance, or. Tell us about that? Yeah.
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So when. When it first happened, like, when he. When I saw him, like, kind of slump over, the whole crowd's immediate reaction was to, like, in unison, everyone fell. And you can see it in the video, like, everyone, like, in just silence, Like. Like, it was literally a movie of what it was happening. Like, the whole crowd, like, it literally. I couldn't hear anything. And then. Yeah, the aftermath of. Almost felt like the whole crowd was waiting for, like. Like, kind of like you see in a movie, like, waiting for the perpetrator to be, like, caught immediately. And then, like, a few seconds go by. Probably not even that many. It was. It probably happened way faster than I think, but a few. A few seconds go by, and then in unison, it felt like everyone kind of had the same thought of, like, oh, they're not just gonna immediately be able to catch him. And then that's when everyone got up and started to run. But, yeah, I remember thinking when, like, we got home and, like, a few hours later and put the news on, and, like, there was that old guy that was like, hey, I did it. And I was like, awesome. And then it was like, wait a minute. He didn't have a gun. Like that.
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Yeah.
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It's weird, but I remember thinking the actual sound of the bullet, it sounded. I don't know if it was just the echo, because we're kind of in, like, a pavilion, like, amphitheater kind of thing. If it. Like some echolocation, it made it sound, like, closer than it was, but. And I'm not just saying this to, like, prove the conspiracies that people are. Are hearing. This is just what I heard. It sounded like it came from right above the highest point of the stairs, like, right in that courtyard, kind of like you see there, like, back into there. But it definitely did sound like it was higher up. So. So, yeah.
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So if I'm jumping here real quick, we're going to jump out of here. We got to go. We have the president, who's. Who's making his president waiting to do some executive orders. Well, yeah, we're not going to wait. Keep him waiting. I promise you that. But very quickly, Very quickly. Just super fast. Have the FBI and. And the authorities contacted you very quick?
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No.
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Okay, well, maybe they should. All right, we're going to leave it right there. Chance Gilbert, I think they'd like to hear where you thought you were hearing the bullet. Come from and what it sounded like. That's what that's all. Relevant information. Chance Gilbert, thank you for your time. All right, folks.
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They cannot imagine what they have awakened. They cannot conceive of the army that they have arisen in. All of us because we stand for what is good, what is virtuous, what is noble. And to those trying to incite violence against us, those trying to foment hatred against us, what do you have? You have nothing.
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You are wickedness. You are jealousy. You are envy. You are hatred. You are nothing. You can build. Nothing. You can produce. Nothing. You can create Nothing. We are the ones who build. We are the ones who create. We are the ones who lift up humanity. You thought you could kill Charlie Kirk. You have made him immortal. You have immortalized Charlie Kirk. And now millions will carry on his legacy. All right, folks, we're here. As we've been saying all day, we're here at the tpusa, the compound. The campus is right behind me. We're going to be inside for the rest of the show in just a second here. I just want to show you the. The crowds gathered in memory of. Of Charlie Kirk. All right, let's bring in Lindy Lee. She's a former Democrat, current, I would say conservative. I say she's. She's welcome on our side. We've. We've had our moments where we tussled over issues, but Lindy is proving to be. She's found the right side. Let's call it this way. If I could bring in Lindy. Lindy, love to have you weigh in on not only Charlie's memorial, but I really want to get into some of the things that. Going on since Charlie's assassination. The left. I'm talking about AOC. I'm talking about Elon Omar. I'm talking about J.B. pritzker, governor of Illinois, wants to be president, continuing the heightened rhetoric of Trump is Hitler. All of us who are America first are Nazis. We're tired of it. But they're doing this even in. In the wake of. Literal. Wake of. Of Charlie Kirk. And then we'll get to Wajahad Ali, who I think is an absolute lunatic, as well as destiny. So let's bring in Lindy. Lindy, how about some of your former cohorts just not respecting the death of Charlie Kirk?
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Eric, it's such an honor to be with you. And let me be very clear, they have never been my former cohorts. Even when I was on the Democratic side, I went to war with these leftists. They are not good people. End of story. This is not in dispute. And you have people like Jasmine Crockett still out there, even days after Charlie's murder, likening him to Hitler, saying that he's far right, calling him a Nazi. This is despicable language. And how they weren't able. They actually oppose a resolution honoring Charlie on the House of the United States Congress. That is horrendous stuff, especially since Republicans all stepped up and did the same thing for Melissa Hortman, who. Melissa Horton and her husband were murdered in Minnesota. And Republicans showed her the respect that she deserved. However, the Democrats, Democrats weren't able to return the favor because they were so blinded by their hatred.
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You know, I spent some time this morning on Piers Morgan's very popular podcast, and Pierce opened the show up with a soundbite of Erica Kirk saying, very heartfelt, emotional. I was right down, right in the front there on the main floor. And you could see her tears. You could feel her, Her. Her pain, so to speak, just a few yards away from her. And she said, it was hard, but she says, I forgive him, meaning the assassin, you know, and then Pierce turned around and said, a couple minutes later, Trump said, I don't forgive him. We're going to go after them. And they were. Pierce was having a hard time juxtaposing those two. And I said, pierce, to be honest with you, I'm pissed. I'm still mad. I'm not ready to say, turn the other cheek. I'm. Maybe Erica is a better Christian than I am. That's possibly what it is. But what is your take since you've seen both sides? What's the right move here? Are you in favor of unity now, or are you in favor of letting Charlie's memory continue to take us through the midterm elections and get some good conservatives into Congress make sure we don't lose the House or the Senate.
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Well, I don't think there can be any reconciliation with people who celebrate Charlie's murder. There's just no common ground with people like that. So I don't, you know, Erica is. Erica is truly as a stain, I'm blow. I was blown away by her speech. She's an incredible woman. The strength that it took to get up there and do that is unspeakable. But I don't actually see their positions, I don't see President Trump's position. Erica's, as too diametrically opposed because Erica embody the Christian principle of compassion, whereas President Trump embody the Christian principle of justice. I think actually there are two sides of the same coin. I think they are. You know, the two can coexist. And one thing that's notable is that in the interview that Erica did with the New York Times, she didn't say that she would oppose the death penalty for her husband's murder. She said she would let the government do its job. So I think this guy, he deserves the death penalty. He should have the law, the full extent of the law against him. I frankly believe that he deserves to die. What he did was so incredibly heinous, and frankly, he thought he was going to snuff out the conservative movement. Now it's stronger than ever. It completely boomerang rang on him and good.
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Something very important. You're hearing something very important, Eric. Erica Kerr can be right that she can forgive Charlie and Trump can be right that he's going to throw the, throw the book at this guy, whether it's Utah or the feds. Throw the book at him and get him to the death penalty, get him to the firing squad, which they have in Utah. I like that. That. So she can be Christian about it and he can be legal about it. Let's. Let's do it that way. I think that's a fair assessment. I'm just, I'm shocked at the, the number of, of this guy, Wajaheed Ali, influencer on the left, absolute lunatic, progressive. I think he's got no soul. He was hate tweeting, hate xing, posting on X during Charlie's services, his memorial service last night, during. And I was on with him. I said, couldn't you wait? Couldn't you wait a day? Are you so low? Do you just crawl along the earth on your stomach as a, as a worm, as a snake, that you couldn't wait till Charlie was memorialized before you start hating on him again? It's amazing how some of these people, they'll do anything to get booked, Lindy.
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Absolutely. And it's also. He just wants the clicks. He wants the likes and the favorites and the retweets. And Charlie's life is worth nothing to him. So I'm frankly not really interested in finding common ground with people like that. I'm just not. I don't think they have human decency, so, you know, reconciliation is not possible. I'm just. I'm completely blown away by the amount of love and unity that the conservative movement that Charlie's fans and family and team are exuding. And I have to make sure that we draw people's attention to the reaction to George Floyd's killing. My street in Philadelphia was burned down. That's actually one of the reasons why I moved. They burned down my street. They vandalized the Apple store and the Lulu Met Lemon store, the Nike store. They caused $2 billion of damage around the country. None of that happened this time. The two sides are not the same. We are not the same.
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Do you think there is a path to unity? And what would that timeline look like for you, Lindy?
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Oh, man. I want them to stop, first of all, bashing Charlie Kirk on the floor of the House of Representatives. I don't know why that's a bar that's too high to reach these days, but apparently it is. You know, we have people like Rashida Talib still attacking him as a Nazi at a congressional hearing. How is that okay? You know, that language needs to stop. They just need to take a beat and stop maligning someone that is loved by millions, tens of millions, hundreds of millions of people around the world. He's become an international icon, and he was murdered for doing something that is so intrinsically American, and that is debating.
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It's amazing how you're. You're nailing it. That the reason why Charlie Kerr. You know, Trump said. There's an important line that Trump said yesterday. I'm not sure he got picked up. The bullet that killed Charlie Kirk was aimed at all of us. That was probably his most powerful moment. I'll give you one one final thought on this, Lindy, and then you tell us about the show you're involved with with PDB podcast. It's great. So go ahead, tell us. You know, Trump saying. I mean, I believed him when he said that. I was like, yeah, yeah, that was for all of us. And the reason why it was Charlie who got the bullets, because he had all of our attention.
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Yeah. I thought that was an incredibly powerful statement. Statement. And I don't think all I want to say, the people in that stadium yesterday, yes, they were there for Charlie. But the reason that Charlie was able to bring together so many people around the country was because of President Trump. He was able to strike a chord in the hearts of millions of Americans. And I'm ashamed that I didn't see earlier. I take full responsibility for that. I believe the mainstream narrative, you know, that Orange man bad that was there was a Russia hoax. I believed Adam Schiff, who should be held accountable for lying to the American people. But now I see it. I get it. I do. Down to my core, I get it. And I'm just floored. You know, I've been a Christian all my life, and I've never been stronger and firmer in my faith. You know, people call, you know, yesterday, what we saw was unapologetic Christianity. We need more of that. We shouldn't be ashamed of our faith anymore. And I'm not going to be.
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Yeah, it's just. It's a shame. Honestly, it's a shame. It's a shame that it had to be after the death of such an influential, great, patriotic American. Very quickly, tell us about the podcast, and then we got to jump here.
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Well, we would love to have you. We actually tried to have you a few months ago, but I think you were busy. But it's. It's a group of women who share their unabashed takes. You know, we are liberated, and we welcome all vigorous debate, you know, in the spirit of Charlie Kirk and in the spirit of Voltaire, the French philosopher. You know, we may not agree, but I would fight to the death for you to say your opposing view.
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Right.
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Well, name of the podcast is Her Take. I believe.
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Her take.
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Exactly. Love having you on. Love having you on our side. What took you so long? My dear Lindy Lee, everyone. Thank you so much. Two and a half minutes. We'll be right back.
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All right, we are back again at TP USA on campus. Makeshift memorial right here and a massive outpouring of emotion, of things, of flowers, of balloons, of flags, American flags, TPUSA flags, Trump flags. Who better to bring in right now again. Yesterday I went to the memorial and I'm on the floor. I'm a couple rows back from the stage, so close I could see the tears of the folks who were talking. And while I had that moment there, I had the RAV the real America's voice feed up on my phone and I was watching and Steve Bannon was hosting, you know, like he does like 24 hour marathons of hosting. He's great at it, by the way. And he had this young lady on. This is Maureen Bannon and she's Steve's daughter. But I'm gonna say more importantly, an Army Ranger, a CEO of the war Room, and just a all around great person. And I said this, I texted Steve live from that, said, this is your best guest. This is your best guest. Can she do my show tomorrow? Maureen, thank you for, for coming here on such an emotional day.
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Thank you for having me.
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Me on.
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And there's nowhere else I would rather be. I mean, I wish I was here for better circumstances, but it, it means a lot to be here.
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Yeah, so you told us. And I'm not sure I should do this on air, but you told me a little story that it was very emotional, wasn't it? Yesterday?
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It was.
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How'd you keep it together?
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I drew courage and strength from Erica Kirk, actually. The fact that, you know, a couple days after Charlie was assassinated, she came into the studio and the address that she gave the nation and then the address that she gave or the speech she gave yesterday, she's just a woman of such courage and strength. So I drew a lot from her. It was very hard. I tried to remember no crying in the war room, but it was very hard.
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Is that a rule? Is that a rule? No crying?
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But.
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It was emotional because Charlie was a friend and he will be severely missed. But it was very inspirational also to be there yesterday and just to see how many people he touched. You didn't see just his friends in the crowd. You saw all these people that were inspired by him throughout the years. So. And the fact that there were people outside and even across the street in another arena, they truly wanted to honor Charlie, Someone who inspired them to do better in their life, you know, go to church, get back and have a good relationship with Jesus or get involved with politics. It was just very moving to be there.
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It's shocking. The number we had heard that the six, the stadium, State Farm Stadium, seating is 63,000. You could put more people, you know, on the field. They put seats in there and they said, we're going to get around 70,000. And most people like, oh, I'm not sure they're gonna. It was packed, folks. It was. The overflow arena was packed with people as well. People standing around everywhere. It's just an incredible. They estimate now 250 to 300,000 people showed up for the event. That's the size of a, a mid level major city in the U.S. oh, I agree.
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And I think that's more than the Super Bowl's ever seen. So it just shows how many lives that Charlie touched and how many people just wanted to celebrate his life, pay their respects and also just show that they're gonna pick up the mic. The mic didn't fall and it's not gonna stay on the ground or stay on the table. It's gonna be picked up and carried on by all these people.
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Yeah. Interesting. You know, Erica had a very passionate speech. It was amazing. And you can, like I said, I could see the tears. I was like, anyone says she wasn't crying, they're lying. I mean, I was right there. I saw her speaking and wow, it was emotional. Especially when she said she forgave the assassin, which just the whole place started. I mean, everyone's.
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She brought me to tears.
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And then Trump later on came in. He kind of vocalized where I am. He was mad. He seemed to me like. And at one point he said, we're not going to let this guy, we're going to throw the book at him. We're going to go after him, we're going after the cell. That, that, that's part of this cabal that's taking down conservatives. That's, that's my emotion right now, that, that anger, I'm still, I'm still fire inside right now.
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I mean, I'm still mad. You know, I, I still have anger, but I think that, drawing strength from Erica, she, you have to let go of the anger in order to heal. And I mean, they'll never be fully healing from this. But in order to, I think function is why she said, I forgive him. So that, but that doesn't mean. Just because I forgive him doesn't mean you're not going to seek the death penalty. And I had this discussion after the coverage. Just because she said, I forgive my husband's assassin doesn't mean that he's not going to be brought to justice. Charlie said in many of his debates when he was asked, do you believe as a Christian in the death penalty? He said, yes. In the Bible it says if you take a life, your life will be taken. So Charlie supported the death penalty. That's why they, I believe that's why they went for the death penalty. Not only because that was the wishes of Charlie, but I think Erica Kirk. But that, just because she said that doesn't mean that, yeah, she can forgive.
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Him as they put, you know, a few into his body that he so much deserves. All right. Oh, I'm sorry. We get Maureen. Maureen Bannon. We're gonna have to wrap, except because we have. Not your father.
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We have President Trump.
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I think someone called him Daddy. We have President Trump, who's taking over the show. Thank you guys so much. President Trump, folks.
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But I think we've made a lot of strides. Wish it was done a long time ago. Today, we're delighted to be joined by America's top medical and public health professionals as we announce historic steps to confront the crisis of autism. Horrible, horrible crisis. I want to thank the man who brought this issue to the forefront of American politics, along with me. And we actually met in my office. Is it like 20 years ago, Bobby? It's probably 20 years ago. In New York. I was a developer, as you probably heard. I always had very strong feelings about autism and how it happened and where it came from. And he and I, I don't know, the word got out, and I wouldn't say that people were very understanding of where we were, but it's turning out that we understood a lot more than a lot of people who studied it. We think, and I say we think because I don't think they were really letting the public know what they knew. Thanks as well to the Director of the National Institute of Health, Dr. J. Bhattacharya, FDA Commissioner, Dr. Marty McCary. These are great people. Administrator of the Centers for Medicine and Medicaid Services, Dr. Mehmedaz, and Acting Assistant Secretary of HHS, Dr. Dorothy Fink. So thank you all. Thank you, Dorothy, very much. The meteoric rise in autism is among the most alarming public health developments in history. There's never been anything like this. Just a few decades ago, 1 in 10,000 children had autism. So that's not a long time. And I've always heard, you know, they sell a few, but I think it's a lot less time than that. It used to be 1 in 20,000, then 1 in 10,000, and I would say that's probably 18 years ago. And now it's 1 in 31. But in some areas, it's much worse than that, if you can believe it, 1 in 31. And I gave numbers yesterday for boys, it's 1 in 12. I was told that's in California, where they have a, for some reason, a more severe problem. But whether it's 1 in 12 or 1 in 31, can you imagine? That's down from 1 in 20,000 and 1 in 10,000. And now we're at the level of 1 in 12 in some cases for boys, 1 in 31 overall. So since 2000, autism rates have surged by much more than 400%. Instead of attacking those who ask questions, everyone should be grateful for those who are trying to get the answers to this complex situation. And the first day, all of these great doctors behind me were there. I told them, this is what we got. We have to find out, because when you go from 20,000 to 10,000 and then you go to 12, you know, there's something artificial. They're taking something. And by the way, I think I can say that there are certain groups of people that don't take vaccines and don't take any pills that have no autism. That have no autism. Does that tell you something that's currently. Is that a correct statement, by the way? There are some studies that suggest.
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Yeah. With the Amish, for example.
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The Amish, Yeah. Virtually, I hear no. I heard none. See, Bobby wants to be very careful with what he says, and he should, but I'm not so careful with what I say. But you have certain groups, the Amish, as an example, they have essentially no autism. First, effective immediately, the FDA will be notifying physicians that the use of acetamin. Well, let's see how we say that acetaminophen. Acetaminophen. Is that okay. Which is basically commonly known as Tylenol during pregnancy, can be associated with a very increased risk of autism. So taking Tylenol is not good. I'll say it. It's not good. For this reason, they are strongly recommending that women limit Tylenol use during pregnancy unless medically necessary. That's, for instance, in cases of extremely high fever, that you feel you can't tough it out, you can't do it. I guess there's that. It's a small number of cases, I think. But if you can't tough it out, if you can't do it, that's what you're going to have to do. You'll take a Tylenol, but it'll be very sparingly. Can be something that's very dangerous to the woman's health. In other words, a fever, that's very, very dangerous. And ideally a doctor's decision, because I think you shouldn't take it and you shouldn't take it during the entire pregnancy. They may tell you that toward the end of the pregnancy, you shouldn't take it during the entire. And you shouldn't give the child a Tylenol every time he goes he's born and he goes and has a shot. You shouldn't give a Tylenol to that child. All pregnant women should talk to their doctors for more information about limiting the use of this medication while pregnant. So ideally you don't take it at all. But if you have to, if you can't tough it out or if there's a problem, you're going to end up doing it. The other thing that I can tell you that I'll say that they will maybe say at a little bit later date, but I think when you go for the shot, you do it over a five time period, take it over five times or four times, but you take it in smaller doses and you spread it out over a period of years. And they pump so much stuff into those beautiful little babies. It's a disgrace. I don't see it. I don't. I think it has, I think it's very bad. They're pumping, it looks like they're pumping into a horse. You have a little child, a little fragile child and you get a VAT of 80 different vaccines, I guess 80 different blends and they pump it in. So ideally a woman won't take Tylenol and on the vaccines it would be good instead of one visit where they pump the baby, load it up with stuff, you'll do it over a period of four times or five times. I was, I mean, I've been so into this issue for so many years just because I couldn't understand how a thing like this could happen. And you know, it's artificially induced. It's not like something that when you, when you go from all of those, you know, healthy babies to a point where I don't even know structurally if a country can afford it. And that's the least of the problems. To have families destroyed over this is just so, so terrible. I also, and we've already done this, we want no mercury in the vaccine. We want no aluminum in the vaccine. The MMR I think should be taken separately. This is based on what I feel. The mumps, measles and the three should be taken separately. And it seems to be that when you mix them there could be a problem. So there's no downside in taking them separately. In fact, they think it's better. So let it be separate. The chickenpox is already separate because when that got mixed in, I guess they made it for, for a while, it really was bad. So they make chickenpox individually. They're okay. When you mix them, something maybe happens. So there's no downside in doing it. It's not like, oh, if you do it bad things. No, it's only good. And it may not have that much of an impact, but it may have a big impact. So let those be taken separately. And then hepatitis B is sexually transmitted. There's no reason to give a baby that's almost just born hepatitis B. So I would say wait till the baby is 12 years old and formed and take hepatitis B. And I think if you do those things, it's going to be a whole different. It's going to be a revolution in a positive sense in the country. The FDA will be updating the label of an existing drug to reflect potential benefits in reducing some autism symptoms. Symptoms. This gives hope to the many parents with autistic children that it may be possible to improve their lives. That's one of the things that I'm very, very happy about. I mean, this was mostly going to be on how not to have the child affected, but we've learned some pretty good things about certain elements of genius that can be given to a baby and the baby can get better and in some cases maybe substantially better. Not going to be easy, but be a lot easier if it didn't happen in the first place, as these great parents fully understand. Right? They fully understand. I feel so terribly for. I have so many friends with autistic children. It's. It's just, it's a tough situation. Finally, to help reach the ultimate goal of ending the autism fever, the NIH will be announcing 13 major grant awards from the Autism Data Science Initiatives. And to be honest with you, to me, that's the least important. It's not even a money thing at this point. There's so much money, but they have to do and they have to move quickly when the alternative is that nothing bad can happen. Let's do it now. I was just saying to Bobby and the group, let's do it now. Nothing bad can happen. It can only good happen. But with Tylenol, don't take it, don't take it. And if you can't live, if your fever is so bad, you have to take one because there's no alternative to that, sadly. First question, what can you take instead? It's actually, there's not an alternative to that. And as you know, other of the medicines are absolutely proven bad. I mean, they've been proven bad with the aspirins and the Advils and others. Right. And they've been proven bad. So I'd like to ask Bobby to get up to the podium and say a few words. And then Dr. Bhattacharya and Dr. Makary, Dr. Oz, Dr. Fink, followed by two incredible mothers that have experienced firsthand what this country is going through, what parts of the world are going through. And I will say there are parts of the world that don't take Tylenol. I mean, there's a rumor, and I don't know if it's so or not, that Cuba, they don't have Tylenol because they don't have the money to fight Tylenol and they have virtually no autism. Okay, tell me about that one. And there are other parts of the world where they don't have Tylenol, where they don't have autism. That tells you a lot. And I want to say it right now. And you know, the way I look at it, don't take it. Don't take it. There's no downside in not taking it. So I'd like to ask Bobby to come up and say a few words. I hope I didn't ruin his day, but that's the way I feel. I've been very strong on this subject for a long time. You know, life is common sense, too, and there's a lot of common sense in this. And I wish things like this were brought up and this group has worked so hard on it. But I'd like to be a little bit more. A little speedier in the process of a recommendation because there's no harm in going quicker. There's absolutely no harm. At worst, there's no harm. Thank you very much, Bobby, please. Thank you, Mr. President. To meet the President's challenge, I ordered HHS to launch an unprecedented all agency effort to identify all cause of autism, including toxic and pharmaceutical exposures. At President Trump's urging, nih, fda, CDC, and CMS are turning over every stone to identify the ideology of the autism epidemic and how patients and parents can prevent and reverse this alarming trend.
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This emotionally charged episode of "Bolling!" comes live from the Turning Point USA (TPUSA) compound in the wake of the assassination of Charlie Kirk, leader of TPUSA and a significant conservative voice. The episode functions as both coverage of the outpouring of grief and unity at the TPUSA memorial and a platform to discuss the broader cultural and political implications of Kirk's death. Guests include associates of TPUSA, event organizers, eyewitnesses to the assassination, and prominent conservative commentators. The episode closes with President Trump’s public address on autism, featuring controversial opinions on vaccines and medication.
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"Erica Kirk said that she forgave the assassin... There was a lot of tears, a lot of chills and tears in that arena at that moment." — Host (A), [16:49]
Guest: Andrew Colvett (Executive Producer, The Charlie Kirk Show)
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"We did it in six days... it's such a tribute to Charlie, but it's also a tribute to his leadership and what he taught all of us. We carry a piece of him with us." — Andrew Colvett, [03:06]
Guest: David King (CTO, American Association of Mature American Citizens)
Guest: Chance Gilbert (Attendee and witness)
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"When I heard the shot...at first I wanted to downplay it and like think it was some kid like doing a prank. And then I look back and that's when it like actually registers what's going on." — Chance Gilbert, [21:44]
Guest: Lindy Lee (Former Democrat, now conservative advocate)
Quotes:
"I don't think there can be any reconciliation with people who celebrate Charlie's murder. There's just no common ground with people like that." — Lindy Lee, [33:42]
"The bullet that killed Charlie Kirk was aimed at all of us. That was probably [Trump's] most powerful moment." — Host (A), [37:42]
Lindy Lee highlights the importance of unapologetic faith and the divergence between forgiveness and justice, noting both Erica Kirk's and President Trump's stances as compatible—compassion versus legal reckoning ([33:42]–[34:51]).
Guest: Maureen Bannon (Army Ranger, CEO of “War Room,” daughter of Steve Bannon)
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"You didn't see just his friends in the crowd. You saw all these people that were inspired by him throughout the years... they're gonna pick up the mic... and carry on." — Maureen Bannon, [45:51]
Segment: President Trump's live address ([48:32]–[61:20])
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The episode is deeply emotional, forthright, and unapologetically partisan. The memorialization of Charlie Kirk becomes a rallying cry for renewed activism and unity among conservative listeners. There is clear tension and division laid bare in the rhetoric toward political opponents and the media. The closing presidential segment on autism blends policy with Trump’s characteristic unscripted style and controversial takes, mirroring the episode’s overall embrace of heterodox perspectives and the “real, unfiltered” news ethos claimed by Real America’s Voice.
For listeners seeking an authentic, inside look at conservative perspectives on grief, leadership, cultural conflict, and public health, this episode captures a pivotal moment in the American political zeitgeist.