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This is an iHeart podcast. You want smart political talk without the meltdowns, we got you. I'm Carol Markowitz. And I'm Mary Kathryn Hamm. We've been around the block in media and we're doing things differently. Normally is about real conversations, thoughtful, try to be funny, grounded, and no panic. We'll keep you informed and entertained without ruining your day. Join us every Tuesday and Thursday Normally on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Let, let's just go by the way the Constitution reads the way things are supposed to be.
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C
Really nice to see that judge do that because she, that judge, African American judge, says this isn't about race, this isn't about gender. This is about the Constitution. And she said those folks had a right to question the authority of that. That was a wonderful moment. Yeah, we saw that. I watched that live. Yeah, it was great. Great news. Big win. All right, take it away, Drew. We'll see you tomorrow, brother. All right, folks, 4pm A little after that, couple seconds after that, Tuesday, markets are closed. Let's take a look at what they did. The Dow Jones across the board. Quiet trading. Quiet trading because tomorrow a big number. Producer price index tomorrow and then Thursday Consumer price cpi, Consumer price index. We're going to find out if things cost more or not in America. Feels like they do a little bit. I think the, the inflation numbers are going to be fairly tame. So I think these are all good markets crept up across the board. You can see this, the equity numbers. Gold held its own. Down 8 bucks was still 330 $700 area. That's amazing for gold. Oil up, we don't like to see that. And then crypto, not so great in the cryptos today. Bitcoin was down, Ethereum was down. CRO was up, XRP was down. So there it is. Crypto is a little bit mixed again. Expect more activity tomorrow and Thursday also this happened. This was wonderful. This was amazing. If you didn't see it, I brought this for you because you'll love it. Borders are. Tom Holman, he was on with Ms. I don't know Ms. Now, MSNBC's Mika Brzezinski, when we talked about her yesterday, completely put her in her place after she said ice disappears. People watch.
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I'd like to, I'd love some transparency.
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As to why a lot of these.
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D
People have been disappeared. You say you have data. We would love to see it.
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The American people should see this data.
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D
Well, here's the rhetoric again, right? You just met, disappeared that was a ridiculous thing to say because ISIS is doing the same thing we've done for decades.
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B
But because of the last four years.
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D
ICE wasn't allowed to enforce a law. ICE was told to sit back and you can't arrest them illegal alien for simply being here illegally. You got to wait till they commit a serious crime and get convicted. That crime, that's the secretary mayorkas instructions work and that's why you saw so much.
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B
There's so much crime in this country.
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D
Coming from the illegal alien population. There's no, there's no law enforcement. But we're doing the same thing right now that we did when I started back in 1984. ICE agents are enforcing the laws enacted by Congress. They're appropriated funding enforce these laws if you don't like ICE is doing. They go protest Congress however to say we disagree. Disappeared people. No, we're arresting people that are in the country legally and they are public safety threat. We know exactly who we're going to arrest when we go look for them. We have a case file in front of us. We have all those facts. This is not disappearing people. This is targeted enforcement operation that we're doing. And comments that you just made is one of the reasons why these men and women are under threat every day. Not just the men and women and ice, but their spouses and their children. They're not disappearing people, they're enforcing the law.
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C
I love that. Right? So she teed him up. He went and we could just had that face. She made that face like she was smelling something bad. The whole time he just laid into her. He's right. He's 100% right. And speaking of immigration, one of the big issues at these town halls, when conservative congress people go back to their districts, one of the big issues is the are these deportations. Well, Andy Ogles from Tennessee has had a bit of a run in with one of those watch. Well, let's bring in our first guest, the congressman from Tennessee whose town hall was almost disrupted by masked Marxists. Congressman Andy Ogles decided to confront these cowards and take a look how this all went down anyway.
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Touch me.
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C
Don't touch me.
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B
You don't touch. You stay here and talk to me, but don't touch me.
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D
Don't touch me.
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You understand me? Don't touch. All right.
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C
I'm from here care we don't family.
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B
Help start this state. That doesn't matter. We are not backing down.
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C
I'm not going anywhere.
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B
Take off your mask. Why are you such a coward? Take off your mask.
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C
Hey, I'm right here.
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B
Take off your mask. Take off your mask. You're hiding, you're hiding.
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C
Don't judge me, dude.
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E
All my birthdays here are easily verified and fact checked.
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D
That great?
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C
Wasn't that great? Well, let's bring in Congressman Andy Ogles. Congressman, that was tremendous. I just love the part where you pivoted on them. Take off the mask, big shot. All. None of them, none of them were willing to show their face, but they wanted that First Amendment freedom to protest, didn't they?
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B
Well, look, you know, my only request was take off your mask and talk to me like a man. But instead all they wanted to do was shout, yell and scream profanities. And look, I'm willing to have a conversation with anyone, but if all you're going to do is cuss at me, then so be it. But look, I stood my ground. We had a great town hall, had, you know, 50, 60 people on the inside. And I figured I would go out and at least, you know, entertain questions. Heck, I'll take a selfie with you if you want. But instead they tried to intimidate me and try to push me around. And quite frankly, I'm not going to back down here in Washington D.C. and I'm not going to back down at home either.
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C
You know, it's amazing that these, we see these pictures, we see these pictures of people protesting at Tesla plants, you know, throwing bricks through them, throwing bricks at cops. I've been to these protests, congressmen, and they'll have these signs and they'll bang you in the head with a sign and say, oh, or they'll spit on you. It's incredible the tactics that the left uses to peaceful. I'm using the air quotes. Peacefully protest.
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B
Well, it is absolutely absurd. And quite frankly, they're not interested in a dialogue because they can't win a debate on the facts because all they can do is yell and scream. They want their version of America, which, by the way, attacking police officers and burning cars and rioting the streets is not my version of America. I want young women and families to be able to walk down the street and to be. If you look at crime in Nashville, the radical liberal mayor of Nashville is, has tried to say that he's tough on crime. And yet Nashville is number eight on the violent crime list, which is why I've told him, if you don't start doing your job, if you don't empower the police department in Nashville, I will personally call the president and ask him to bring the National Guard to Nashville.
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C
Now, what were they protesting? I mean, I saw a bunch of Trump signs in there. And you know, the other question, the follow up is sometimes giving them airtime is all the fuel they need to do it more. So your thoughts on that? I mean, I believe in showing, exposing them for what they are, but some people would say, well, you're showing them on tv, they're going to continue to do it.
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B
Well, look, you know, they have a right to assemble and to peacefully protest. Now, the difference between, you know, our side and their side is that, you know, we might show up and, you know, express our disdain for the other side, but we're not going to disrupt the meeting. We're not going to be rude and hateful.
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C
Right.
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B
You know, we clean up our mess. We on the way out, these people, again, all they want to do is yell because they have nothing to stand on. They'd rather be out there yelling and screaming, complaining about the fact that President Trump has secured the border. President Trump has made Washington D. Safe. He's committed to, you know, fighting crime. And then when you look at the economy, look, we're hitting our, our jobs numbers exactly where they need to be. And we've seen with the revisions of the Biden jobs numbers where they had inflated the job market almost by a jobs. And so this is a situation where we're going to have rate cuts, you're going to see this economy take off and President Trump is going to be validated that if you're tough on crime, if you fight for the American economy, if you put the globalists in their place, we will enter the golden age, the new golden age of America.
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C
You know, President Trump sent, sent the troops into to Washington and crimes, just like the violent crime is just crashing there in a good way, in the positive way. I think at one point, over three weeks, there's only three homicides. One of the most violent cities in America. It clearly works. But I am that libertarian that says I just don't want government to get too involved in our personal lives. And that would be government involvement. On the good side, it's still, you have to juxtapose that your mayor of Nashville, Freddie o', Connor, is that his name? Freddie o'. Connor.
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B
And I totally agree with you.
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C
Very liberal, but go ahead. Yeah, take it.
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B
I totally agree. You know, anytime that we move forward and the federal government is having to get involved, quite frankly, securing the streets. Look, crime in Washington, D.C. has evaporated. They said it couldn't be done. President Trump has proved them wrong. Now, look, we have to honor the Constitution, we have to set the right kind of precedent. But if you have a mayor, if you have a governor that is going to willfully let their, their citizens be victims, we have an obligation to stand up for the American people. That's what President Trump is doing. That's what he's demonstrated with Washington, D.C. and again, whether Chicago, Memphis, Boston or Nashville, do your dang job. Secure the streets. Because President Trump has proven that it can be done.
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C
Now you introduced the Bill, I believe a 7:1 allowing Trump to continue what he's doing in D.C. extend the period. It's supposed to be a 30 day period. Tell us about it. Where does it stand?
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Yeah, so I've talked to Leader Scalise about this. Essentially what it does, it allows for rolling authorizations where the President would justify to Congress that he needs an extension. But look, you know, I've talked to people on the streets. You've seen folks taking to X and to Instagram and the other forms of social media, shop owners saying, look, I can operate my business and I'm not going to be robbed. I can go to the grocery store and I'm not going to be mugged. I feel safe going outside. People haven't felt safe in this city for a very long time. And that's a shame because it literally is the front porch of our nation. It is literally that shining city on a hill and it's not safe to go out. And again, these other mayors, President Trump has proven it can be done. The left said you couldn't secure the border. President Trump has secured the border. They've said you can't fight crime. President Trump has fought crime. And even in Nashville, you look at some of the folks that are outstanding, they're all wanted. Murder, rape, assault, deadly weapon. You have an individual who held an eight year old hostage with a gun during a carjacking, then later murdered someone. These are the types of people that the liberal left are defending. Meanwhile, President Trump, myself, other God loving, law abiding citizens are tired of this crap. And again, you look at North Carolina, the attack on the train and the young woman lost her life. That individual should have never been.
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I was literally going to say that I was going to bring that out next and control him. If you can roll that video and let the Congress and talk over it a little bit and think about this for a second, folks, these people are complaining. They're, they're protesting the right for what happened in North Carolina to continue. A guy, a hardened guy who's been 14 times he's been arrested, he's still out in the street. Criminal aliens killing our people are young, raping and killing our women and children. And these people, well, that's, that's the subway in North Carolina. Light rail. North Carolina. 23 year old murdered by a guy stabbed 14 times. That guy was arrested prior. The judge, magistrate let him, let him out. But those roll the video of Congressman Ogles and that crowd and Congress. Tell us what's going through your mind when these guys seem to want to confront you until you got in their face. You could see them backing up.
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B
Well, I mean, it's just one of those that, you know, we the people have had enough. I've had enough, my constituents have had enough. And quite frankly, my guess is most of those people that were at the town hall, that were protesting profanities, yelling and screaming, weren't actually from the district. That being said, I went out there to talk to them, to speak with them. I'll take a selfie with you if you want to take a selfie. I'll answer your questions now. You can do the respect and be a man and take off your mask instead of hiding behind it. But again, they're cowards. And this is the type of behavior you see from cowards. And then talking about the attack on the train, you have a young woman, she fled Ukraine, she's come here, she's contributing to society, she just finished a shift at work, she gets on the train and she's literally thinking, I'm going to go home, prop up my feet, go about my life. And this guy that should have been in prison stands up, no provocation, and kills her. Enough is enough. Why are the left defending these individuals? And you look at the fast boat, right where President Trump blows up, you know, narco terrorists who are bringing fentanyl into this country. And the left is now defending the cartels and narco terrorists who are poisoning our kids. I mean, this is their argument, this is what they're going to run on in this next election, which is why they're going to lose, because America again has had enough. And you know, I'm on financial services, I affectionately called it the nerd committee. I do forecast that we're going to have one, two, maybe even three quarter point rate cuts and what that's going to do for the economy and the housing market. I'm actually going to reach out to the secretary and see if we can't do something about PMI insurance and see if we can bring that down for that first time. Homebuyer so there's a lot of creative things we can do to be proactive to help that, that first time family get into home to help that middle class family move up. This is what President Trump has promised and this is what he is delivering.
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Yes, it's one of those things. It's a growing movement kind of getting government to maybe tax our property a little bit less every which way, every which they possibly can. Congressman Ogles, keep up the great work. Appreciate your time. And yogels from the great state of Tennessee, which is kind of purple, which has got me scratching my own head. We got to get that thing back. Red, sir.
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And Working on it.
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Hey there. I'm Mary Kathryn Ham. And I'm Carol Markowitz. We've been in political media for a long time. Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane. That's why we started Normalely, a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity. We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor. We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously. So if you're into common sense, sanity, and some occasional sass, you're our kind of people. Catch new episodes of Normally every Tuesday and Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen.
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Ah, you hearing that? You're hearing that? My next guest says communication is the key to knowledge in the quality of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Always awesome to have on the host of Rav's Spirit campfire and rock legend, superstar friend of mine, Mr. Ted Nugent. And by the way, folks, did you know this? Did you know this? This is the 50th anniversary of the greatest song ever written, ever performed in the history of rock and roll, stranglehold. Mr. Ted Nugent, you performed seven nights in Michigan. You had seven. You had your 7,000th live show. Tell us about it.
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D
Well, Eric, number one, greetings from the man cave, cuckoo's nest, the arsenal of democracy, the epicenter of ultimate Motown soul music. I am the. Take a look, everybody. Take a look. Old guy, 77 years clean and sober. I am the luckiest guitar player and the luckiest bow hunter and the luckiest man that has all the dogs that love him with the greatest wife in the world, that has the greatest band, the greatest songs, the greatest audience all these years. I started playing in Detroit 69 years ago at the state fair with the Capital School of Music and Joe Pedrosk. We played Honky Tonk. And I did my 7006 concert in Detroit last week. Week, Eric, wow. Write this down. This last seven days in Michigan, the greatest, most gratifying, fulfilling, exciting, fun guitar music. My guitar tone, I can't. I can't begin to explain the frequency outrage of my guitar. And Jason Hartless on drums and Johnny Big on bass, my crew, the audience, everybody's singing Stranglehold. Everybody's singing right there. I'm a lucky man, Ted, you're.
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C
No, you're lucky. You're awesome. You're a legend. And, you know, I'm. I grew up listening to Stranglehold, Wang Dang Sweet, Whatever. I listen to all. I love it. And I watched a little video I think you send over if we can get some. I would love to see if we can play any of it. I don't know if we can or not. We can't turn around. But you still have it, brother. You still have it. I watch rock legends now. 40 years later and they lost. You still got it, man. It's amazing. It's incredible. What do you think? What do you attribute that ability to keep bringing it when you're 70 years old?
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Well, there's quite a cocktail of ingredients there. But number one, my parents disciplined me to put my heart and soul into being the best that I can be. And when I got turned down by Chuck Berry and Bo Dealing, Little Richard, the Motown Funk Brothers, I decided that I wanted to explore uncharted musical outrage, which I've mastered, by the way. But it's lucky because of the bandmates. I have the best musicians in the world, the best crew. Doug Banker's been my manager for the last 40 plus years. My son Toby has turned into the great greatest tour manager ever. The people come, they love the piston vinegar. Plus, I gotta tell you, Eric, they love me. That I stand up for God, family, country, constitution, the Bill of Rights, the ten Commandments, the golden rule, work ethic, law and order, good over evil, self defense. And not just the music inspires them and me and you, but standing up for the quality of life ingredients that they all live by. And you put that cocktail together and the energy level is absolutely intense. Intoxicating, by the way. I've been clean and sober for 77 years, but right now I'm drunk on soul music. I'm intoxicated on guitar.
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C
Your music has a huge soul undertone to it. I mean, huge, huge draw from soul. Incredible music. Just, it's poetic, you know, it's poetry and soulful music. And we're gonna, hopefully I'm gonna get Ted to play a little stranglehold for us towards the end of the segment here and give it, give it a little shot like last time. Can we? In the meantime, Ted, there's a big discussion going on right now. You're, you're probably the most vocal second amendment advocate I know on the planet. The administration is now talking about taking the rights of the second amendment rights away from people who are, who identify as trans. Now sounds at first you say, hold on a second. Everyone should have the right to keep and bear arms. I will tell you in the state of Florida, if you have a marijuana license to medical marijuana license, you're not allowed to carry. You're not allowed to have open carry with a marijuana license. So there are rules that say you can and can't carry at certain times. We're not weighing in on that. I would say that if you're a, if you identify as a transsexual, there's no such thing. There are only two genders. There's male and female, period. So if you think you're something else, something is going on in your mind already, but you've been taking these, these gender dysphoria drugs. I would say it's not a bad idea to take the guns, firearms out of people who would identify as trans. Am I crazy, Ted? No.
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I'll tell you what. You know, I'm just a guitar player, but I study this stuff. I was proud to have the highest votes on the board of directors of the national rifle association for 29 years because I believe that God gave me the right to keep and bear arms wherever I may walk. But there already are laws and reasonable rules that if someone is mentally ill or uncomfortably dumb, because comfortably numb is actually uncomfortably dumb. And you're dangerous because your sense of reason is out the window when you're drunk and stoned. Now people can hate me for that because the truth hurts. Idiots. The point is, is that mental illness is already a disqualifier for second amendment rights because you don't want mentally ill people. And by the way, if you think you're something other than God made you, that is a level of mental illness that I think should disqualify you from having weapons and walking amongst us. Especially when the evidence is irrefutable that all these mentally ill trans freaks. And they're freaks, I love them, but they're mentally ill. They have gone on a violent rampage. And now that we've established a modus operandi, what kind of society would ignore those in that evidence? So we're not ignoring the evidence. If you're mentally ill, you can't have a gun.
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Yeah. And not only. I agree, completely agree. And I think they are. I think there is. Listen, I have no problem with people who want to live their life the way that they want to, but when you start saying you're something that you're not, you've proven that you're. You're not exactly what society would call normal. And therefore maybe you should. And a lot of these young people who are shooting up schools, a lot of them lately have been trans, whatever, trans dysphoria people. So there. There's something there, there. And at least until we figure what that out. Not a bad idea. Can't. You can't have just been released from a mental institution and go get a gun. You can't have certain types of medical licenses, marijuana and others, and go get a gun. Why should you be able to be a transsexual shot up with a bunch of drugs and get a gun. I believe that this is one of those areas where some rules for second Amendment make sense. And this one. And you know what else we do, Ted? With this, Democrats have to figure out what they. What they love more. They love transsexuals more or they Hate guns more. And this is them right on the hot seat for that one.
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D
You know, I think the focus should really be on big pharma. Most of the problems in our society come right out of the drug. The chemical warfare. The chemical warfare leveled upon the American people by big pharma, the fda, the usda, the cdc, the nih. These people are out of control. Which is why I love Bobby Kennedy Jr. Because he's now addressing that when you wage chemical warfare on your society and you literally rearrange the psychosis and the psychotic conditions of persons mentality, that of course there's going to be disruptions, there's going to be violent explosions. And once we've established that that is the modus operandi, we don't want those people to be armed. I mean, somebody bring somebody on to debate me on that how somebody who's mentally ill should go buy a goose gun. It's just unbelievable.
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C
I'd like the Democrats step up and say, oh, you can't take guns away from transsexuals. Okay, well, you want to take them out of the hands of law abiding, fighting citizens in our, in our most crime ridden cities. But you want that transsexuals. You guys are nuts. They're out. They cannot figure out up from. From down the. The other. The other song. I think you're number one. Are you ranked number one on iTunes right now? With collaboration with Ira Dean. Tell us about it.
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D
He sent me this beautiful handmade custom we the People guitar because our song what Would Charlie Daniels Do? A direct reference to a great man who would usually make reasonable and conscientious righteous decisions in life. So the song what Would Charlie Daniels do that Ira Dean created. He also created the incredible piece of music Am I the Only One by Aaron Lewis. With Aaron Lewis. So yeah, it became number one in the world, I think. I think it might have been my sexy Kalamazoo Gibson Birdland guitar solo. Just a thought. Maybe that was part of it.
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C
We love your guitar solos. You were known for the guitar shows and they were dark and deep and smoky and musty and then just badass. Just completely badass. You want to play a little 50th anniversary stranglehold for us, Ted?
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D
I could do it on the 50th anniversary guitar here. It's. It's acoustic, but I still get that Motown grind because it's all in the right hand. It's Bo Diddley inspired. It makes the girls dance, which is the ultimate indicator whether you've struck the proper chord. Or not.
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C
Give me chills. Ted gives me chills. High school. Listen to Ted Nugent playing. There's just, just, just going off on that, that guitar. Just amazing. Amazing. And you kept.
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D
I'm on my way to with John Bailey who's a great excavation family here in Jackson. We're doing a military fundraiser with Night Ranger, my damn Yankee blood brother Jack Blades and we're going to play killer music, Strangle Holding, Cat Scratch Fever and Coming of Age. So the music is alive and well and again I attribute it to the inspiration and stimuli from real music lovers that keeps my, my fire going. So thank you everybody.
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C
Catch rats Fever. One of the greatest songs ever written about your, your kitty cat back in the day I believe if I'm not mistaken.
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D
That's right. I couldn't, I couldn't help myself.
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C
We all love Ted. We love Ted so much. What a great patriot, Ted. Thank you for being on. I appreciate you. And don't Forget folks, watch Ted's show right here on Rev Spirit Campfire Saturdays, 3pm Eastern. Ted, love having my friend. Congratulations on 55 Decades of Just Badass Music and five more having the time of my life.
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D
Happy hunting season everybody. It's going to be the best hunting season ever.
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C
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Hey there. I'm Mary Kathryn Ham. And I'm Carol Markowitz. We've been in political media for a long time. Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane. That's why we started Normalely a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity. We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling and with a healthy dose of humor. We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously. So if you're into common sense, sanity and some occasional sass, you're our kind of people. Catch new episodes of normally every Tuesday and Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen.
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C
All right, Mad Dog, can you get on Voice of God please? That is the White House. That's a live shot of the White House. Yeah.
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D
Yes, sir.
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Those folks, they're all lining up at that fence, right? Trump put up there live people flagpole. Trump was, has been seen on that roof too of the White House overlooking the, you know the, on the, on the backside, the north lawn where he put out all those tables and made it this nice little place to kind of hang out. And he's making it like Club White House or whatever. So Trumpian. So Trumpian. But we're gonna. The reason why we're showing that Mad Dog is right. We're gonna dip in when Trump starts to speak. I think he's got some executive orders to sign. Yep, we are on standby and we will jump in if he starts that. But in the meantime, Americans are getting crushed by debt. And when you're buried in credit card and loan debt, it's easy to put it off and think, think, I'll deal with it later. But if you wait, you could miss out. The experts at Done with Debt discovered a new strategy that can dramatically reduce or even eliminate your debt. TV personality and Done With Debt customer Gillian Barbary is here and she'll joins us to discuss. Welcome. Jillian, tell us about Done with that. You know, you're talking about. You were, you worked with this type of thing before, right?
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Oh yeah, dude. Like I was on Fox TV for 30 something years, including Miami and Los Angeles. I worked the NFL on Fox pregame show for 10 years. I did movies and TV shows and blah, blah, blah. It doesn't matter if you don't have a proper money manager and then you get cancer, you get divorced, and it all comes toppling down on you. And he goes, oh, we owe a lot of money to the irs. That was my personal story. I didn't know where to look. I didn't know where to reach. Thank God somebody pointed me in the direction of donewithdead.com because basically, what they are is a team that comes together. They form their master negotiators. So they speak. They do not want bankruptcy. They do not want you to get into some big conglomerated loan. They want you to get right back on track by doing none of the above. So I say to you out there, if you are in the same. You don't even have to be in the same situation as me, right? So I had disease. I was a single mom. I had no. What do you call, child support. I was. Thank God I was working in radio every day because I looked like Uncle Fester. I was bald because of the chemo. And here's the deal. When I found out, done what that does, I was completely blown away because I was the one not wanting to answer calls, not wanting to take the mail, because it was all harassing, right? You're freaking out. These. These letters they send, they look like they're government, you know, letters, and they're not. They're just from lawyers who want to, you know, come in and scoop down and make some money. But done with that is not about that. They are strategic. They are amazing. To get your life back on the road, what they do is essentially call the banking institutions, call everyone that's available from credit cards, any of the debt that you're in. They will stop those nasty phone calls overnight. The nasty letters stop overnight, and then they get to work. So I call it your. Your own little team of ninjas. They will work night and day to help.
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We. We all need our own little team of ninjas. I want my own little team of ninjas. I got a team of ninjas in the control room. They're pretty good, but they. I have to leave them here when I go home. I'm important to note. You mentioned it briefly, but. But we don't have to. A lot of times we don't have to declare bankruptcy to get some of this relief right?
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100%. So what done with debt does is they make sure they follow every avenue. They do not want to file bankruptcy on your behalf because that affects you for like, what, 10 years down the road? And credit, getting a car, getting an apartment, just life. And, you know, I always say to people you might have A great life. I had a great life. I was in tv. People thought, oh, my gosh, she's doing sitcoms and tv, and she's doing. Doesn't matter, doesn't matter. I'm type B. I don't sit. I'm not a type A personality. Lord, I wish I were, but I don't sit over people and, and look at the money. And no, no, I'm the dancing puppet out there, you know, listening to Ted Nugent. I swear to you, that got me in the mood. But I'm that girl who's out there singing for her supper. And then when you come home and you find out that the money manager hasn't done right by you, the people in your life haven't done right by you. You're without a paddle and you have cancer and two kids that are relying on you.
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I.
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Let me just say that was a defining moment in my life. Had I not found done with debt, I don't know where I'd be done with that dot com. They, they just completely. Before you pay another bill, I implore you. I really do. I, I plead with you. People say to me, what's your number one thing? Don't pay another bill. Do not pay another bill. And keep that debt going until you talk to them. They're a free consultation. Your first consultation is free. Look at the testimonies online. Look what they've done for other people. And, and I always say, look, it's, it's, it's. You're not a name to them. You're a number. Right? So in the big picture of things, no matter if you owe 10,000 or a million. Yeah, I know.
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From so personal. I just hate to. I don't want to cut you off. We have to get. We're up against a break here. Donewithdet.com donewithdet.com that's where you go. That's where you find a great, great first interview with you guys. Looking forward to a lot more. And I. Do you miss the NFL? I just, I loved you when you were, like, doing some of the NFL stuff on Fox. That was fantastic stuff.
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Greatest job in the world. And I can tell you that. Howie Long, I know you got to go to break. And Terry Bradshaw, jb, When you work, Chris Collinswort, Jimmy Johnson, they're exactly what you are.
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That's the thing about athletes. That's the thing about former athletes on tv, that they bring the real. The real. It's organic. They, they don't go to school to, to, you know, learn how to speak to. To folks. They just let it rip. And sometimes Jerry's a loose. Gets each other. Always has been. He had a good arm, though, back in the day. Jillian Barbary, thank you so much for your time.
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So great to see you and thank you for having me. I hope to see you again real soon.
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We'll do it again. We'll talk a little more football next time, though. All right, folks. Folks, we got to get the break. We'll be back in two and a half minutes.
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Hey there. I'm Mary Kathryn Ham. And I'm Carol Markowitz. We've been in political media for a long time. Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane. That's why we started Normally a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and check, just want clarity. We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor. We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously. So if you're into common sense, sanity, and some occasional sass, you're our kind of people. Catch new episodes of Normally every Tuesday and Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen.
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The fire doesn't care who you are. It tests you. It breaks most men. But if you rise through it, you'll find the edge. The edge. A no politics zone built for risk and resilience. No politics, only pressure. See, now, the guy in the White House, I would think before he's president, would be perfect for the edge. I'm not telling you exactly what it is, but no politics, I promise. No politics on the edge. It's going to be sports, it's going to be to be Wall street, it's going to be celebrity, it's going to be tragedy. It's going to be all some fires that we're going to talk about. Matt, Doug, can you jump on the. On the horn for a second here? I have a. I have a trick question. What color is the White House? It is Blanco. Blanco. Yeah, color. Who's. Who's buried in Grant's tomb? Grant. Exactly. We're showing that because President Trump is going to sign some executive orders and we will take you to that as soon as that starts. In the meantime, Zoran Mamdani is really morphing into the actual perfect Democrat. His policies and ideologies are already reckless and radical. And now, in true Democrat fashion, he's working on delivering the perfect word salad. First, he wants to get rid of New York City's gang database. You know, the running list that keeps tabs on all the city's bad gang bangers. Yep. He just wants to toss that right into the shredder. Don't. Don't take it from me. Take it from him. Let me ask you about a bunch of different policies just to kind of get you your. Your thinking out there. If city council legislation to abolish the NYPD gang database were to pass, would you support Ensign, that. I have supported that. That proposal, it's one that supported because.
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Of the vast dragnet, has meant the.
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Inclusion of New Yorkers on the basis.
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Of whether they go out late, photos.
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They put on social media, so much of the facts of life of being a young New Yorker, and yet it then becomes a mark of suspicion. Oh, what a socialist. By the way, Brian Glenn. Brian Glenn. Brian Glenn. Glenn. You know, I did that. They told me not to say Brian Glenn.
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Ah.
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Anyway, Zoram Andani is also focused on clearing out some space in Rikers Island. He apparently wants to reduce the jail. Pop. Reduce the jail population. By the way, just stop here for a sec. Do you know that the murderer just was just released from a prison on. On no cash bail and told just make sure you show up up for your court hearing wanted for murder. All right? Anyway, let these bad guys out. That's what the Democrats wanted to do. Listen, the jail population of Rikers has increased since Eric Adams has come into office by more than a thousand additional incarcerated New Yorkers. And what is quite staggering to me is that we know that we can reduce that jail population to less than 4,000. I mean, vital city had an article.
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About a number of different proposals that.
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Could reduce it to 3,700. And some of this also just has to look at. The average stay on rikers in the 90s was 50 days. Now it's more than 100. There are more than 1500 people on.
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Rikers who have been held there for.
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More than a year.
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So I do think many of the reforms that have to be made are also reforms around the court system. Crimes rampant.
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Rampant.
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Crimes rampant in your city, Zohar Mamdani. We keep seeing people getting killed on subways. You're out of your mind. You want to. You want to make it easy to be a criminal in New York? Keep doing that. See how that works out for you. From one airhead Democrat to the next, Stacey Abrams is running her mouth again. This time she's talking about dei. Well, take a listen to this. I think defending DEI is actually the.
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Cornerstone of restoring our democracy.
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Because when you can manipulate and can weaponize people against each other, when you.
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Get the people to do your bidding.
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You don't have to do it yourself.
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So you make transgender children the reason for inflation and you make immigrants the reason for everything else that's gone wrong.
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No one blamed transgenders for inflation. Nobody Point. Nobody. Stop lying. Stop saying dei. It's about meritocracy. America is built on meritocracy. You do well. You work hard, hard. You're successful, you're talented. You rise to the top. Not you're going to rise to the top based on your skin color or your gender. It's just not going to happen. It's antiquated. You didn't learn your lesson in 2024, didn't you? Really, Stacey? Democrats Well, I think it's safe to say that Mayor Brendan Johnson is America's most hated mayor. His approval ratings around 5 Chicago's annual labor Day weekend bloodbath really put a national spotlight on the issues the Windy City is dealing with. Yet Johnson still doesn't think there's a crisis going on. Take a listen and your wife Stacy.
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Be willing to cut your security detail from 150 sworn police officers and put those police officers back on the street where they can protect real Chicago. So we're very proud of the work that we're doing collectively to ensure that our police officers have the resources that they need. As I've said repeatedly, it's policing and affordable housing. It's policing and youth employment. It's policing and mental and behavioral healthcare services. It's going to take all of us, the business community, the philanthropic community. We're working collectively with Cook county government, the state of Illinois, the state's attorney as well. The volume of cases that we are pushing towards the state's attorney so that we can continue to close out the these cases as we really drill down with our detectives division as they solve crime, as they get the evidence over, the state's attorney gives her the ability to make the prosecution so that we can continue to deter crime in the city of Chicago. That's a holistic approach that we're taking. Thank you.
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So Labor Day weekend, there were eight murders in Chicago, 58 shootings. This past weekend, there were six murders. If you count the Monday morning murder, it would have been seven murders on a regular weekend in Chicago after the Labor Day week, we can keep doing what you do in Brandon Johnson. Clown. Moron. Rosie o', Donnell, back with another manic rant about Donald Trump. Take a listen to this latest from the horrible, deranged, lunatic woman.
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I think that he is afraid of.
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Smart, informed, strong women. And, you know, he thinks women are.
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To be abused, to be grabbed by the.
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As he said.
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I thought when that happened that that would be it for him.
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You know, I remember when Gary Hart.
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Had a girl sit on his lap.
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A grown woman, not a child.
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And that was the end of his candidacy. And here he is saying what he.
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Says and being who he is.
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And I think that strong women scare him and infuriate him, and I'm one of them. You're a strong woman. You're a strong woman. You ran off to Ireland because Trump won. That's not portraying strength, is it? Not now, Rosie. How about one more? Speaking of crazy women who hate Trump, Whoopi Goldberg got upset on that show, that terrible show after learning that Trump arrested 450 illegal aliens at a Hyundai plant in Georgia. Here's what we had to say about that.
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So here's, here's a question. You know, last week, Georgia, Hyundai plant.
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Where over 450 people were taken into.
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Custody, suspected of living and working illegally. Over 300 of them were South Korea.
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Korean.
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You did, you know, they were here to build a plant to create American jobs.
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Oh, wow. And they rounded them up.
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And they rounded them up. And I mean, let's be real. Let's be real. This isn't about sanctuary cities. This isn't about.
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I am so upset. I wore my Get Real shirt here today and I got absolutely drenched at the, the, whatever that storm was, a hurricane that passed through here. Get. You want to be real, Whoopi? You want to get real? They're illegal. They're not supposed to be here. They're illegal. And they didn't come here to create jobs. They came here and took American jobs. What a clown. Does the View even fact check any of their host comments at all? They're not here to create. They took jobs. They did the exact opposite of that. Whoopee. Whatever that means. Okay, we'll be back. Two and a half minutes.
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Hey there. I'm Mary Kathryn Hamm. And I'm Carol Markowitz. We've been in political media for a long time, long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane. That's why we started normalely a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity. We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor. We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously. So if you're into common sense, sanity and some occasional sass. You're our kind of people. Catch new episodes of normally every Tuesday and Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen.
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All right, still waiting on Trump. See if he signs his eos. Probably not. Okay. Mad Dog, you have some. We love this. Very quickly, keep sending the voicemails. I listen to them all. I'm again, again backlog, maybe 600 or so. But every day I listen to a couple hours of them. They're phenomenal, as many as I can. Just keep sending them. You make the show better. This show is your show. I'm delivering it. I want to give you what you want. We'll talk about Mad Dog. That said, do we have a couple voicemails from the folks? Yes, we do. We have. Viewer says DOJ is banning trans people from having guns. Let's do it.
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Hey, Eric, this is Pat from Idaho.
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I think the DOJ talking about banning.
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Trannies from owning guns is just trolling the Dems.
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Got to put them in a rough.
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Spot which they they love trannies more or hate guns more. Good question. Thank you.
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Very good question. We just posed that to Ted Nugent too. And I agree that I think when you start shooting people up with these gender dysmorphic drugs and I think you do alter something and there are laws in the books right now that if, if you're involved in medical marijuana in some states, you can't get a gun. Well, why not? If you're involved in gender transforming drugs, why not equally as restrictive for owning a firearm? Maybe it would save some lives. I don't know. Ted Nugent agrees with that. All right, Mad Dog, you got another one. Next one is viewer has some thoughts about no cash mail.
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Hi Eric, this is Diana from South Carolina. I watch your show every day and I like your show and I like you. I used to watch you when you were on Fox all the time too. At any rate, what my concern is, even with the troops that are in the cities like that are already in Washington D.C. what happens when they make these arrests? Isn't it still a no cash bail situation? And are the people that are being arrested, do they do any jail time? Do they get sentenced to anything? I haven't heard anything about that and I'm concerned about it because it is matter how many arrests you make, if nothing happens to the various people, I don't know if you know anything about it, but I appreciate your addressing that situation. Thank you.
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Well, thank you, thank you. From South Carolina. So it depends on the jurisdiction. Who, who arrests you? Is it a local cop? You know, a federal marshal? But generally no cash bail. Yeah, you get out and you promise to come back when you have cash bail, you have someone else saying, I'll vouch for that person. I'll put up the money, but if they, if they run, we're going to go find them. Remember, Dog the Bounty Hunter is a good example of that. But when it's no cash bail, you trust their, the honor system to come back. And in some of these, these, some of these things for no cash are violent crimes. It's insane. These people aren't showing up. That's why Trump's trying to eliminate no cash bail, at least on the federal level. Mad Dog, you got another one? Yeah. This next viewer says Dems need to go to jail.
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Hey, Eric, you're doing a great job. You know what? These Democrats are so out of control, man. I think they should just call them for what they are. Communists. Forget calling them Democrats. They're not Democrats any longer. And they don't serve our country and they don't serve the people. They should all go to jail for treason, every one of them. And I don't know why we can't do something about. About that problem. Have a nice day.
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No, I will tell you, I purposely do not call it the Democratic Party. I call it the Democrat Party because there's nothing Democratic about the Democrats right now. They can call themselves Democrat, but they're, they're certainly not constitutional Democrats. They're more socialist now. They're moving into quasi communists. And I agree with you, if they do things wrong, they. I want a perp walk. Why am I doing this? For 17, 18 years now, and I can't remember any. I can remember perp walks on my right hand. Total of the elected officials, there are so few and far between. And then they get pardoned. As soon as the next Democrat comes along or even Republican, I'll call the Republicans out, too. Give me perp walks. You do something illegal, you do something wrong, use our taxpayer money the wrong way, go to jail, you'll stop doing it or someone else will stop doing it. Dog of Mad John from Michigan called Soda Pop Pop.
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Hey, Eric, this is John from Michigan.
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I'm a big fan.
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I'm sitting here watching you in that bright reddish orange, whatever the hell color shirt that is, and I'm drinking a strawberry pop, and it occurs to me.
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My strawberry pop just looks kind of dull.
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Just. Just a random thought. Have a good day.
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Bye. So. So I Love this one because. Yeah, it is a random thought. Keep doing it. We love hearing all that. And I, I pulled it because come from Chicago, we call it pop. I moved in New York and East Coast. Now it's soda. I don't know what you call it, but isn't it kind of cool that we have different names? Speaking of that, very quickly, Mad Dog, can you first play the sound bite of Tell us what you hear. I want you to do this on voicemail. Tell me exactly what you do you hear. Yanny or Laurel. Play it, Mad Dog. Laurel, Laurel, Laurel.
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Laurel.
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Okay. Half the population hears Laurel. The other half hears Yanny. I hear Laurel. A lot of guys in the control room here. Laurel. One or two? Matt hears Yanny. My wife hears Yanny. She's sure it's Yanny. But I hear Laurel on voicemail. Tell me what you hear. And then. Okay, how about this one? Show the picture. This is an old famous one. Remember this? What color, what colors are those? Is that dress now I see. See gold with white stripes. Some see blue with black stripes. And it's literally the same picture. We haven't altered it. We didn't alter the Annie or Laurel either. Get on voicemail, tell me what you see. And I don't know. You got another story. Let's. Let's hear about it. Mad Dog, what color do you see? This is definitely 100% blue and black. And for me, it's 1 billion percent not true gold with white stripes. And this is what I'm talking about, folks. So let me know, let me know. All right, Great show. Appreciate your time. Hey, Trump was supposed to sign executive orders at 4 o'. Clock. Guess what? We made it through the whole show. Sorry, Bannon. It's going to be on you War room coming up next. We'll see you tomorrow. Have a great day. And producer price index in the morning. Going to move markets. We'll talk about it tomorrow.
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You want smart political talk without the meltdowns? We got you. I'm Carol Markowitz. And I'm Mary Kathryn Hamm. We've been around the block in media and we're doing things differently. Normally is about real conversations, thoughtful, try to be funny, grounded, and no panic. We'll keep you informed and entertained without ruining your day. Join us every Tuesday and Thursday Normally on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an iHeart podcast.