Breaking Point with David Zere — Real America's Voice

Episode Date: November 22, 2025
Host: David Zere
Featured Guests: John Gordon, Ken Abramowicz, Mike Brest, Eric Eggers

Episode Overview

In this Thanksgiving episode of Breaking Point, host David Zere brings together voices from across politics, security, journalism, and government accountability to unpack corruption scandals, security threats, government overreach, and economic struggles facing Americans today. With a focus on impending midterm elections, controversies in Congress, debates on national security and terrorism, and the burdens of skyrocketing costs of living, the episode features candid and sometimes fiery conversations with guests, providing insight into pressing issues while reflecting the show’s signature patriotic, conspiratorial, and anti-establishment tone.

Key Discussion Points

1. Political Landscape & Congressional Scandals

Guest: John Gordon (Radio Host: The Truth with John Gordon)
Segment Start: 04:57

• Congressional Races & Control of the House

  • David Zere expresses concerns about Republicans potentially losing the House, threatening Trump’s legislative agenda.
    • “If you lose control of the House, it's game over for the Trump agenda.” (03:51)

• FEMA & Congresswoman Scandal

  • Gordon details alleged corruption involving Rep. Sheila Cherfilus-McCormick and mishandled FEMA/COVID funds:
    • “Her company was overpaid $5 million. Well, she forgot to mention that to anyone. She pocketed the money and then put it into her campaign and sent it in different directions.” (05:41)
  • Argues this is emblematic of deeper, bipartisan corruption in Washington.

• Stock Trading in Congress & Epstein Money Allegations

  • The hosts discuss the ethical mess surrounding social and fiscal improprieties in Congress, touching on:

    • Stock trading “scandal”
    • Accusations (some false) regarding lawmakers receiving Jeffrey Epstein-linked money

  • “There's a stock market scandal going on in Congress now... The spending is crazy.” (06:54)

2. Intelligence Community Distrust & JFK Assassination

Guest: John Gordon
Segment: 09:32

• Epstein Files & Intelligence Agencies

  • Gordon warns about the risk of “dragging good people down,” argues public demand for Epstein transparency is rooted in suspicion of intelligence involvement.

• JFK Assassination Conspiracies

  • Gordon connects historic distrust in the government’s intelligence community, referencing books and authors that support the theory that the CIA and U.S. officials were complicit:
    • “It is now pretty evident that our own government... conspired... it was a mammoth conspiracy that involved the CIA, the mob and perhaps anti-Castro figures.” (10:52)
    • Refers listeners to “The Unspeakable,” “The Men Who Killed Kennedy,” and “The Devil’s Triangle.”

• John Brennan & CIA Culture

  • Zere questions appointment of Brennan as CIA director, referencing his involvement with approving 9/11 hijacker visas and the Crossfire Hurricane operation:
    • “John Brennan...His fingerprints are all over Crossfire Hurricane. They lied to Congress. They lied to the American people.” — John Gordon (12:27)

3. National Security, Terror Threats, & Political Islam

Guest: Ken Abramowicz (Author, Security Analyst)
Segment Start: 20:05

• Designation of Terror Groups (CAIR & Muslim Brotherhood)

  • Abramowicz laments lack of designation in the U.S. for Islamic groups classified as terrorist in multiple Muslim countries:
    • “What's extra confusing is that Islamic terror comes in two forms. It comes in physical terror...but there's also what I call cultural terror, and that's words.” (22:18)

• Debate on Free Speech vs. Incitement

  • Argues for legal lines against speech that incites genocide; calls for political Islam to be declared illegal.
    • “We should regard [incitement to genocide] as the equivalent of physical terrorism and start putting people in jail or declaring them a foreign terror organization for their commitment to genocide.” (23:39)

• Balancing Security & Pluralism

  • Zere highlights cases of patriotic Muslims in the U.S., voices concern over Sharia law.

  • Abramowicz acknowledges Islam’s complex dual role as faith and political ideology; stresses religious practice protected, but political imposition is not.

    • “Islam has to reform itself...One of the ways to do it is simply say political Islam...is illegal...things that are obvious for Christians and Jews should be made obvious to Muslims.” (25:57)

• Sharia Law & American Values

  • Both discuss local stories/allegations about Islamic supremacy in places like Michigan.
    • “In America...we believe in life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness for 100% of the population. We don't believe in supremacy, anything...” — Ken Abramowicz (28:31)

4. Military, Venezuela, and Cartel Crackdown

Guest: Mike Brest (Washington Examiner, Defense Reporter)
Segment Start: 35:55

• Democrats Allegedly Calling for Military ‘Insurrection’

  • Discusses a controversial video from Democrat lawmakers urging service members not to follow “illegal orders.”
    • “Six Democrats...put out a video where they warned service members not to follow illegal orders, but they didn't specify what those illegal orders could be...” (36:19)
    • Notes the heated response: “The president's response was so bombastic...he actually accused them of treason and sedition and said they should be tried and potentially killed for it.” — Mike Brest (37:53)

• US Military Activity in Venezuela

  • Covers the US Navy buildup and strikes on alleged drug vessels, noting lack of publicized evidence and speculation about a larger mission, possibly targeting Maduro.
    • “The current Navy buildup in the Western Hemisphere right now is the largest we've seen for decades...” (39:13)

• Fentanyl Crisis & US-Mexico Cooperation

  • Fentanyl production tied to Chinese precursors, Mexican cartels; US-Mexican cooperation includes extraditions and intelligence overflights.
    • “Fentanyl is by far the most potent drug that is widely available...It's not coming from Venezuela, where these strikes are happening...” (41:26)

5. Economic Pressures: Housing Affordability & Congressional Ethics

Guest: Eric Eggers (Government Accountability Institute)
Segment Start: 47:15

• Housing Market Crisis

  • Zere and Eggers critique mortgage/income disparities and the “50-year mortgage” proposal, calling it a bank favor that deepens debt.
    • “A 50-year mortgage...is a terrible deal for the most consumers. It's a great deal for the banks because they make so much money.” — Eric Eggers (49:00)
    • “Inflation's outpaced incomes...the average homeowner is 59 now. Used to be 31...” (48:05)

• Regulatory and Immigration Impacts

  • Environmental zoning adds costs; “massive influx of immigration” also cited as a driver (50:18).

• Congressional Stock Trading

  • Eggers, referencing the new drive to ban stock trading by members, reminds listeners of Pelosi’s and others’ records:
    • “Nancy Pelosi is retiring, but...she's been the most profitable in terms of stock trades...stock volume trading this year is actually on pace to be a record high.” (52:03)

• Senate Scandal: “Arctic Frost”

  • Discussion of the Biden DOJ’s subpoena of phone records for GOP senators, linking to “Watergate” level abuse and lack of transparency.
    • “It's the Biden administration's Watergate that they...sought information on 10 senators and hundreds of Republican linked entities.” (53:08)
  • Criticizes both parties for slipping self-serving provisions into spending bills, eroding trust.

• Tax and Cost of Living Narratives

  • Zere contrasts Florida’s low-tax governance with New York’s high property taxes.
    • “I'm paying 13,000 a year for a third of an acre here on Long Island...” (51:26)
    • Eggers: “We don't have a state income tax in Florida...Ron DeSantis...working to eliminate property tax on homesteaded properties...” (57:26)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On systemic corruption (John Gordon, 05:41):
  “This is not a partisan statement, the truth will set you free. This is a repeated, consistent practice of the Democrats...our federal government...is absolutely rotten to its core. And I’m worried about our country legitimately.”

• On ‘the list’ in Epstein scandal (John Gordon, 09:32):
  “My fear is that people will be on the list who never went to Epstein island or rode on his airplane but just happened to be in these Rolodex.”

• On intelligence and JFK (John Gordon, 10:52):
  “Anyone who bothers to take the time and actually look...if you read those three books and you draw any other conclusion than our own government was complicit, I don't know what it would be.”

• On political Islam vs. religious freedom (Ken Abramowicz, 25:57):
  “The religion is protected by our Constitution...But when it becomes a political movement, and they want to impose Islam on Christians, Jews, and Hindus, they have no right to do that.”

• On free speech and terrorism (Ken Abramowicz, 23:39):
  “People should not have a freedom of speech to incite genocide...We should regard that as the equivalent of physical terrorism…”

• On Congress and insider trading (Eric Eggers, 52:03):
  “Stock volume trading this year is actually on pace to be a record high. So it seems wrong. I think most people recognize it's wrong. And when members of Congress are beating the market better than hedge fund managers, you know that they have access to inside information.”

• On ‘Arctic Frost’ & government overreach (Eric Eggers, 53:08):
  “It’s the Biden administration’s Watergate...they got this Judge Boasberg in D.C. to issue a gag order so that members of the Republican Senate didn’t even know that they were having their phone records handed over…”

Timestamps for Key Segments

• Politics & Election Stakes: 02:55 – 04:57
• John Gordon: FEMA, Epstein Scandal, CIA, JFK: 04:57 – 13:40
• Ken Abramowicz: Islamist Political Activity & Security: 20:05 – 31:03
• Mike Brest: Dems’ Military Message, Venezuela, Fentanyl Crisis: 35:55 – 45:23
• Eric Eggers: Economic Pressures, Stock Trading in Congress, ‘Arctic Frost’: 47:15 – 58:51

Additional Notes

• The episode is packed with anti-corruption rhetoric, warnings about deep-state interests, repeated calls for vigilance, and laments about the decline of the American dream, with each guest adding insights from their respective fields.
• Listeners looking for actionable perspectives on housing, national security, and government accountability—particularly from a right-leaning, populist viewpoint—will find the conversations illustrative, if sometimes conspiratorial in tone.