Breaking Point with David Zere - November 29, 2025

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Breaking Point with David Zier | Real America’s Voice

Episode Date: November 29, 2025
Host: David Zier
Location: Bethpage Embassy Diner, Nassau County, Long Island, NY

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Overview

This episode of “Breaking Point with David Zier” offers an on-the-ground look at the concerns and hopes of everyday Americans, with a Thanksgiving focus. Recorded at the historic Bethpage Embassy Diner, Zier speaks with Long Island business owners, commuters, political figures, and grassroots activists. The central themes: economic hardship and resilience, immigration and law enforcement, the costs and culture of suburban living, education policy and parental rights, and the preservation of local and national American values.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Diner Culture and Economic Challenges

[03:00–05:30]

• Gus (Diner Owner): Holds the diner as a community anchor, emphasizing that “anybody can serve you a cheeseburger. It’s how you serve the cheeseburger—what kind of vibe you give with it.” (Gus, 04:06)
• Diner has operated for nearly 70 years, reflecting both tradition and change in the region.
• Increased expenses: higher labor, insurance, utilities, and taxes post-2020.
• “Nobody wants to work anymore. Maybe that’s part of America’s problem, you know, in a nutshell here.” (David Zier, 04:54)
• The diner’s history intersects with local manufacturing legend, especially aviation (Grumman, WWII).

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2. Small Business Owners: The COVID Impact and Labor Market

[06:02–08:03]

• Brian Zachary (Plumbing Contractor): “It was very hard because of Trump’s policies… Trump’s policies haven’t really affected us yet. I think next year… we’re going to really feel a little burden lifted off.” (06:43)
• 2018–2019 were strong years economically; COVID-19 restrictions described as “sabotage.”
• Challenges competing against unlicensed contractors and being underbid.
• Frustration with illegals being prioritized for driver’s licenses over U.S. citizens: “We were at the end of the line to get a driver’s license, and we were American citizens and they weren’t. That was wrong.” (Brian, 08:06)

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3. Housing Market & Generational Dilemmas

[10:05–12:12]

• Matt & Margie Kochman (Real Estate):
  • Young adults priced out: “Young people can’t stay here. Everybody’s renting… $3–4,000 a month in rent.” (David Zier, 10:20)
  • Lack of inventory due to low-interest mortgages.
  • Proposals: 50-year mortgages, adjustable-rate mortgages to encourage homeownership.
  • Renting seen as tied to “attraction to socialism—because they don’t own anything.”
• Fentanyl Crisis: Margie lost two children to fentanyl and credits Trump’s border policies for making a difference: “He’s stopping fentanyl coming into this country to kill our young and blowing up those boats.” (Margie, 12:27)

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4. Local Economy and Politics

[17:56–22:22]

• Shift from manufacturing to a service economy—only “4% is manufacturing” (17:56).
• Concerns about the effect of socialist policies by New York City officials (e.g., Mamdani) on the suburbs.
  • “Trump is watching him like a hawk.” (18:31)
• Greg Hack (Congressional Candidate):
  • Dims Congress for “trading on non-public information,” calls for trust restoration (19:56–20:22).
  • Housing crisis: “Average price of a single family home in Nassau county over $800,000. We’re not able to attract the young people to come back.” (Greg Hack, 21:26)

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5. Policing, Safety, and Urban-Suburban Divide

[22:47–26:00]

• Jay Weinstein (Belmore Patriots):
  • Cops retiring early due to policy fears; up to 20% may step down (23:49).
  • “The criminals are going to rule New York City and they’re going to get hurt because [police] are being hindered.” (Jay Weinstein, 24:13)
  • Claims Manhattan DA Bragg is “pleading down the felonies to misdemeanors.”
  • Critiques city/suburban policy disconnect and the effect on schools, safety, and property values.

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6. Culture Wars: Transgender Policy and Indigenous Mascots

[25:19–27:53]

• Massapequa school embroiled in controversy over bathroom access for transgender students.
• Jay believes accommodations were sufficient, “But the student turned it down. Wasn’t good enough.” (Jay Weinstein, 25:52)
• Lawsuit pending, with references to Loudoun County, VA as a cautionary tale for pushing “woke” policies.
• Debate over removing Native American mascots: “It’s in honor of the Indians… it’s not an insult.” (David Zier, 27:43)
• “Governor Hochul… doesn’t care to realize [Long Island] was all indigenous.” (Jay Weinstein, 27:23)

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7. Affordability and Thanksgiving Reflections

[28:05–29:27]

• People “scaling back” for the holidays; persistent inflation.
• “Food is expensive… people can’t afford to do an average meal.” (Jay Weinstein, 28:42)
• Gratitude for family and political leadership: “I am thankful for Trump getting in as president… without him, we’d be in dire need.” (Jay Weinstein, 29:02)

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8. County Leadership: Law Enforcement, Policy & “Woke” Resistance

[35:03–43:44]

• Bruce Blakeman (Nassau County Executive):
  • Nassau County’s economy and safety are sources of pride; works against “woke anti-business policies of Albany” (Bruce Blakeman, 35:32).
  • Nassau: “safest county in America” and “most desirable place to live in New York State.” (35:50–36:22)
  • Critical of NYC’s new mayor’s progressive platform—“he wants to defund the police, send social workers…[on] 911 calls. He talks about free bus rides… rolling homeless shelters.” (Bruce Blakeman, 36:42)
  • On transgender issues: “We were the first county in all of America where we said, boys play with boys and girls play with girls.” (Bruce Blakeman, 38:14)
  • Defends Native American mascots as positive.
  • Insists “we haven’t raised taxes one penny in four years” despite expanding law enforcement.

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9. Grassroots Organization and the Parallel Economy

[44:01–45:05]

• Maria (Switch to USA):
  • “We are the parallel economy for all of your essentials… all made on American soil by American factory workers.” (Maria, 44:28)
  • Encourages buying American-made in uncertain times.

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10. Education Reform and Immigration in Schools

[49:34–59:29]

• Michelle Morrow (National Alliance for Education Reform):
  • Rise of absenteeism linked to ICE enforcement protests.
  • Schools accused of “weaponizing” youth as activists: “They are now teaching our children to be political activists, to be social justice warriors, quote, unquote. But the majority of our kids can’t even read or write or do math at grade level.” (Michelle Morrow, 53:02)
  • “Restorative justice” policies discourage accountability.
  • Criticizes left for “promising people that they can come to our nation and… don’t have to do it legally.”
  • Points to hope in college-age conservatives: “They are recognizing what an incredible blessing it is to be a United States citizen. They are coming back to their faith in God and the foundational principles…” (Michelle Morrow, 57:57)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Maybe that’s part of America’s problem—you know, in a nutshell here.”
  — David Zier, on declining work ethic (04:54)

• “Anybody can serve you a cheeseburger. It’s how you serve the cheeseburger—what kind of vibe you give with it.”
  — Gus, Diner owner, on business philosophy (04:06)

• “They were telling people not to go to school because they could be kidnapped by these law enforcement agents that were going to come into the schools and take them away. That’s what it began as.”
  — Michelle Morrow, on ICE absences in schools (52:36)

• “We have the lowest poverty rate of any county in New York State… People are moving to Nassau County.”
  — Bruce Blakeman (35:32)

• “You don’t have innovation, entrepreneurship for the district… when it gets older, you lose the jobs.”
  — Greg Hack, on Long Island’s demographic issues (21:46)

• “They are now teaching our children to be political activists… but the majority of our kids can’t even read or write or do math at grade level.”
  — Michelle Morrow (53:02)

• “I am thankful for Trump getting in as president… without him, we’d be in dire need.”
  — Jay Weinstein (29:02)

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Key Timestamps for Important Segments

• Diner & Local Economic Concerns: 03:00–06:02
• Small Business & Pandemic Aftermath: 06:02–09:39
• Housing Market & Fentanyl Crisis: 10:05–12:49
• Nassau County Executive Bruce Blakeman Interview: 35:03–43:44
• Transgender Policies & Mascot Debate: 25:19–27:53
• Education Reform & Immigration in Schools (Michelle Morrow): 49:34–59:29

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Tone and Style

The tone is conversational, passionate, and distinctly populist, echoing concerns for “real American voices.” The episode maintains an informal, neighborly approach—mixing humor, personal testimony, nostalgia for tradition, and pointed critiques of progressive policies.

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Takeaway

This episode offers a microcosm of contemporary conservative anxieties and aspirations: a world of hardworking families facing inflation and rising costs, small business owners struggling with regulation, a loss of traditional values, and fears of lost sovereignty—countered by strong pleas for local activism, faith, family, and support for Donald Trump and America-first policies. The Bethpage Embassy Diner is not just a setting but a symbol: where American tradition, nostalgia, and modern worries intersect over coffee and conversation.

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Transcript

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Everybody. I hope you had a terrific Thanksgiving with your families. Thank you for watching real America's Voice news. I'm David Zier. You're watching Breaking Point. And I went to the Beth Page Embassy Diner just before Thanksgiving and I sat down and did interviews with the salt of the earth, hardworking middle class Americans of Nassau County, Long island, indicative of most families across the country here. But we got Mamdani. Across the Nassau border in New York City. Hundreds of thousands of commuters from Nassau county and Suffolk County, Long island go into the city. Cops are worried, finance people are worried about their jobs, moving south and all kinds of things. But we got their stories on the ground with the owner, Gus. He's just terrific. Check out these awesome interviews with real American voices. Happy Thanksgiving to everybody here from the Embassy Diner, Bethpage, New York. We got Gus here, the owner, just such a great guy. What's going on? Everything's good. Happy Thanksgiving. We get ready for Christmas. Thanksgiving. We're gonna have huge Thanksgiving dinner here at the NBC diner. And I appreciate you guys being here. Yeah. So we talk to real American voices on the ground here. Hard working, middle class America just outside of New York City. A lot of commuters concerned about Mandani, concerned about the economy. But it's a Thanksgiving holiday. You got this place amazing here. You do this for all the holidays. Why is it so important to you? It's important because you have to, you have to give a good vibe. Not just good food, but you have to give a good atmosphere. Anybody can serve you a cheeseburger. It's how you serve the cheeseburger, what kind of vibe you give with it.

[Jay Weinstein]

Yeah.

[David Zier]

And this is a fixture, the diner culture on Long Island. This place been here almost 70 years. Diners on Long island are part of our culture here. Late night, after you hit the clubs, you come in here. But times have changed a little bit, right? It's a little harder now. More expenses, higher labor costs, higher utility costs, more taxes, higher insurance. Big time. Times have changed big time. Back in the day, we used to go out to the clubs and come to diner. There's no more clubs anymore. There's nothing, there's nothing to be open 24 hours. Well, nobody wants to work. Never mind that nobody wants to work anymore. After 2:00 in the morning, nobody wants to work. Maybe that's part of America's problem, you know, in a nutshell here. But we're in Bethpage. This place, you know, is home to Grumman we won World War II out of here, the Cold War with the F14 and the E2. Hawkeye, you know, incredible history here, Rich history. Tell us about your food cost these days. And we're still reeling from 2020.

[Rodney Williams]

Right?

[David Zier]

The food cost was terrible over the past four years. Now it's starting to get much better under Trump is doing the right thing, changing big time. I see a huge difference in the meat, especially. All right, well, that's good. That's good to know. And you think 2026 will be a good year for the economy? Yes, I do. 100%. I believe that. All right, well, that's really great. Tell us about Thanksgiving. What are you doing this year? Thanksgiving, we're gonna have. We're gonna be here all day, one day and all night. 9 o' clock in the morning to 10 o' clock at night. Combine, have turkey, anything you want. Ham, like a lamb. We got it all here.

[Bruce Blakeman]

All right.

[David Zier]

Gus is the best, you know, to have you here, Dave. I appreciate you guys. I've been watching you all day. You like hanging out with the people? Yeah, I do. It's all about the people. That's what. You know, people come in here and you treat them like family. We're all family here in Beth Page, so that's moving in, baby, I'm moving in. Thanks. Happy Thanksgiving. Appreciate your hospitality and letting us do this. And your home. This is your house. Awesome. Sounds good. Don't tell my wife. She'll kick me out. I'll see you later. We got Brian Zachary here. You're a plumbing contractor, right? Yes, I am. A small business. A small business owner. So we're here at the diner. Working class people in and out of here. Everyone's working hard, right? It's a little harder today, right?

[Bruce Blakeman]

A little bit.

[David Zier]

So we were talking better, though. It was very hard because of Trump's policies. Trump's policies haven't really affected us yet. I think next year they're going to be in full force and we're going to really feel a little burden lifted off. So we were talking like 2016, 2017. It took a little time, but the economy was really good in 2018, 2019. And what happened in 2020 then it got shut down somehow. It got sabotaged by. I don't know. You think it was sabotaged? Oh, coronavirus, yeah. The China virus. Yes. Shutting down the economy, the Trump economy. They shut down. They shut down the whole world. You think it was done to foil the election? The reaction? Absolutely. People, they were confined to their homes. You're only allowed to have six people to your house for Thanksgiving. What did it do to your business? You suffered a little bit.

[Bruce Blakeman]

Yeah.

[David Zier]

I'm an essential worker. Yeah. So I was allowed to go out and work, but there was nobody on the roads. Unless young people are going into the vocation. Right. So there's not as much. You know, I feel like years ago they were. There were plumbers and electricians everywhere. But I'm in construction, and, you know, I have a hard time getting contractors qualified guys. Right. It's like. It's like the wild, wild west. To which person have the pickup truck or a man? They call themselves a contractor. All they do is no insurance. Well, I have everything, and I have. I have to bid a little bit higher to cover that. But you have guys going around not saying illegals, but the guys going around.

[Bruce Blakeman]

Trying to get them. You want to hear a funny story?

[David Zier]

2016, my son qualified to go for his driver's license, but then they gave illegals the opportunity to get driver's license. It foiled a lot of people from getting there. And we were at the end of the line to get a driver's license, and we were American citizens and they weren't. That was wrong. Yeah, I know. I tried to get my daughter her permit during that time. I had to give five. Five pieces of id. But you didn't need any as an illegal? No, nothing. They show up with nothing and they walk out with driver's license. And we were online with them. And you remember the lines during COVID of illegals in New York City and New York, on Long island here, like, wrapped around a corner of illegals and regular people couldn't get in. American citizens. That was me. That was me and my sons. I that. What's going on here? Are you getting your driver's license? All these people are getting the driver's license. How important was it that Trump got elected over? Commonly, we would have been invaded by China or we would have been invaded by Russia. That's how important it was. When you're over in Europe and you're saying a friend in need is a friend indeed. The whole world was laughing at us. Remember when she did that in Poland?

[Bruce Blakeman]

Yeah.

[David Zier]

Yeah. Well, she didn't even know where Ukraine was or Poland was. And she's been to the border. Yeah, she knows where the border is. The border. She walks the opposite way.

[Bruce Blakeman]

Are you.

[David Zier]

Are you of Polish immigrants? Your family? Yeah. Yes, but my father fought in World War II. Right. For the U.S. or in Poland? For the U.S. okay. Wow. Yeah, Incredible.

[Greg Hack]

Yeah.

[David Zier]

He was at D Day. He lost his middle finger. Wow. He's a war hero. Amazing, amazing. Yeah, yeah, Definitely was an amazing man. Well, listen, more American, real American voices on the ground here. And Brian Bachefsky.

[Michelle Morrow]

Yep.

[David Zier]

Yes, sir. Thank you. It's a pleasure to meet you and I appreciate your insight. It's real American voices on the ground. The holiday weekend is here, Thanksgiving. We have Matt and Margie Kochman here, friends for a long time here, very active with the America First Warehouse Patriots on Long Island. But there's a lot of issues that we have to address here on the island. Right. While we celebrate the holiday. How are you?

[Michelle Morrow]

We're doing good. We're doing good.

[David Zier]

How are you, Matt?

[Michelle Morrow]

Fortunate.

[David Zier]

Good. Yeah. Yeah. And so it's a time to, I guess, count your blessings, right? And the abundance in America. Right?

[Michelle Morrow]

Yes, absolutely.

[David Zier]

So. But there's big issues here. You're both in real estate for decades and young people can't stay here. Everybody's renting and they're paying 3,4000amonth in rent sometimes. And how do you ever save to buy a home?

[Michelle Morrow]

Well, they can't. They can't. And what Huckle is doing is Governor Hochman. Yeah. She is having. All apartments are being built. Rental apartments are being everywhere. We're in Port Jeff. It was a quaint, quaint town and now there are apartments on every corner.

[David Zier]

It's a going everywhere near railroad stations. Part of that, like Agenda 21 stuff in the U.N. you know, they want, you know, everybody to walk to a train and get rid of their cars. Right, right, right. It's terrible.

[Michelle Morrow]

They don't want them to own a house.

[David Zier]

This is suburbia. But there's no equity. They're not building any equity.

[Michelle Morrow]

That's right.

[David Zier]

That's. So what do you see out there? You know, we're talking about this problem we've had in the country for a long time regarding, you know, people don't want to sell their home because they locked in at 2, 3, 4%. Right. So there's not selling, there's no inventory. What does a young person do and what are some of the solutions? Well, some of the solutions are as, as Trump said, maybe a 50 year mortgage where at least you can get in for a lower payment, which beats paying rent. An adjustable rate mortgage they worked years ago, it's still an option and you can refinance down the road or things like so anything to get them in to get a deed. Homeownership opportunities. It beats, you know, the young people are attracted to socialism. Because they don't own anything. They don't have anything. Yeah. And so there's that. That's their option. But home ownership is still the American adjustable rate mortgages. You see them coming back? I do, I do. I absolutely do. Because it gets people in the door. And it's better to own than rent. Yeah. A lot of. A lot of issues to address here on Long Island. Marjorie, I wanted to talk to you about, you know, you lost a couple of children, two children, to fentanyl. Yes, I did. And, you know, it's been a big issue. Trump closed the border. You think that's helping things?

[Michelle Morrow]

Absolutely, it's helping things. He's stopping fentanyl coming into this country to kill our young and blowing up those boats. There's six, maybe five, six people on the boats. And yeah, they got blown up and they're gone. But a little bit of Fentanyl is killing a lot. They're poisoning a lot of our youth.

[Rodney Williams]

Yeah.

[David Zier]

Saying every boatload has the possibility to kill 25,000Americans. Right. Okay. What are some of the other issues that are important to you? What do you think about the job market here on Long Island? People being able to go to the grocery store? Things are still going up.

[Michelle Morrow]

Yeah. Prices are going up. But I have faith in President Trump that next year, this is when it's all going to kick in and everything that he's pushing and working for, for the American people, it's going to kick in next year in 26, and we're going to be grateful.

[David Zier]

Yeah. And I'm in construction and commercial real estate for almost four decades. And, you know, costs are up 30, 40% construction because of supply chain and Covid and other stuff and high interest rates. Do you see things loosening up on that? Because I think the economy is going to take off like a rocket ship next year. Oh, I agree. Unfortunately, the Biden era created this inflation and we are unfortunately stuck with it. It very rarely goes down. It means our dollar was devalued by the Democrats and now we have to live with this higher price. But if your economy is humming along and things are doing well and fuel prices come down, things will definitely take off. Yeah, yeah. And. But, you know, the other side of it is that you're getting less at the grocery store. Smaller containers.

[Michelle Morrow]

Yes.

[David Zier]

Higher prices. And once they raise them, they don't really come down.

[Michelle Morrow]

No, they don't. They don't come down. But have the faith. Have the faith. Yes.

[David Zier]

Trump didn't do it. You can't blame Trump. For this.

[Michelle Morrow]

They tried to destroy America. They tried to destroy it and Donald Trump came in and he's saving America.

[David Zier]

We'll be back with more Breaking Point right after this.

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[Michelle Morrow]

That.

[David Zier]

I hope everybody had a nice El Tripta fan nap from their dark meet on Thanksgiving, watch some football, hung out with friends and family, maybe argued with the crazy uncle a little bit. But I was at the Bethpage Embassy. Diana Bethpage, New York, home to Grumman Aviation, Fairchild Republic. Right down the road, they built the fighters that helped win World War II, the Cold War, and in between, the F6F Hellcat, the TBF Avenger, the P47 Thunderbolt, the A10 Thunderbolt, the F14, the lunar module, the wings for the space shuttle, all these great planes, the E2C Hawkeye, built on Long island by the men and women. But the culture and the economy has changed here. We're just outside of New York city and only 4% is manufacturing. And this is the problem across America in a lot of places. So we're a service economy outside of New York City. So if New York City's not doing well, the suburbs don't do as well. And Mamdani scaring everybody, right, with his socialistic policies. The finance people commute to the city, are worried. The cops are retiring early without being vested in their pensions. So we'll see how it unfolds. I don't think Mamdani will be able to get away with most of what he's proposing. And there'll be checks and balances. And Trump is watching him like a hawk. And he's going to go into this year if he wants his bus plan free. Buses which don't work would just be like homeless shelters, you know, in the streets of New York on wheels. You know, he's going to lose federal funding if he wants to do that. He has a $17 billion shortfall ahead of him. But check out these interviews with real American voices on the ground from Long Island, New York, having breakfast here. Real American voices on the ground. The Beth Page Embassy Diner here. Place is extraordinary. And we got a lot of issues here on Long Island. And somebody to talk about that is Greg Hack running for Congress in the third district, trying to get back that Republican seat, right? Yes, I am. Yes, I am.

[Greg Hack]

We're Going to take out Tom Suozzi in November 2026.

[David Zier]

Why are you running?

[Greg Hack]

I'm running because we. Because of a lot of reasons. We have a lot of problems in our country. We have a lack of trust between our representatives and the electorate. And I think that needs to be changed. There's less than a 10% approval rating of Americans who approve of Congress.

[David Zier]

How are they getting so rich in Congress?

[Greg Hack]

They're trading on non public information. Actually, some information is going to be coming out tomorrow.

[David Zier]

Swazi's worth a lot of money now.

[Greg Hack]

He's worth a lot of money. He's up over 450% on his trades.

[David Zier]

Wow. So there's a bill in Congress, right, proposed to ban stock trading, right?

[Greg Hack]

There is. There's actually an active one already. There's the. There's the stock act of 2017, but unfortunately it used to be enforced by an outside entity. Unfortunately, they move that enforcement back into Congress. So it's the fox in charge of the hen house.

[David Zier]

Okay. A lot happened in the third district. Right. George Santos was convicted of identity theft and wire fraud. Sat in people's living rooms and promised him, you know, those people in the third district on the North Shore, Long Island. And to his credit, he won the district and his second time around. But a lot of people disappointed. Do you think you can get it back?

[Greg Hack]

I think I can and I have a plan to do that. I have a plan to be. To engender trust with the voters and give them and actually be worthy of that trust. And by doing that, you have a better relationship with the electorate, with your representatives, and you can be more effective and powerful in Congress for those members.

[David Zier]

Now, I met you about five years ago during COVID You guys were outside the Nassau county legislation, legislature. You've been active for a long time.

[Jay Weinstein]

Right.

[David Zier]

Tell us about your outlook for Long Island.

[Greg Hack]

Well, with Mondani in there, it's a little bit of a problem, but it's. It's so expensive to live. You have a. You have the average price of a single family home in Nassau county at over $800,000. We're not able to attract the young people to come back unless we really make changes. I have some great plans for that, to attract young people to come back. But when we lose the young people, we have an older population. And when you have the older population, you don't have innovation, entrepreneurs, entrepreneurship for the, for the, for the district. And when you don't have that.

[David Zier]

Yeah. Or an economic engine.

[Greg Hack]

Exactly, exactly. Then when it gets older, you lose the Jobs.

[David Zier]

We're very top heavy here on Long Island. About one in four work for the government in some level. And then you take health care, which is about 50% government funded. We used to be the home to defense, the space shuttle wings, you know, the lunar module, the F14. Right. It's changed.

[Greg Hack]

Yeah, aviation's got a great. Yeah, it has changed. But aviation is. Long island has a very rich. Which aviation.

[David Zier]

World War II. Oh, wow. We got to talk about that further. Greg, I want to thank you so much for coming on and where can people follow you?

[Greg Hack]

Thank you, Dave. Yeah, they can go to greghack.com that's G R E G H A C H dot com. All right.

[David Zier]

Thank you. Happy Thanksgiving. Thank you. We're just finishing breakfast up here at the Beth Page Diner. This place is incredible. The decorations for Christmas here. And Gus, the owner, we're going to sit down with him on the, on the cost of doing business in New York, especially small business owner, you know, struggles, insurance, utilities and everything. It's expensive to live here, right?

[Jay Weinstein]

Yes. Long island is one of the most expensive places in the entire country to live in.

[David Zier]

Jay Weinstein from the Belmore Patriots here, super patriot, very active on Long island for many years here. But you're like a border town for New York City, right. You got a lot of commuters coming from Nassau county into the city, nypd, fdny, financial services type people and others. Right. A lot of. A lot of people commuting, hundreds of thousands.

[Jay Weinstein]

Yes, that is correct. We have worried. I am actually worried because Mindani getting in can really affect Long island in a big way. Thank God we got Blakeman in right now who's putting 300 more cops on the force to protect Long island from New York City. So hopefully that makes a difference.

[Bruce Blakeman]

Yeah.

[David Zier]

But yeah, a lot of early retirement, you know, last year, the last two years, a lot of cops retired without vested be invested. They just wanted to get out other cities recruiting them like Houston down south and Phoenix. And you know, do you think the cops, the veteran police officers will continue to step down?

[Jay Weinstein]

I think from what I'm hearing through the grapevine through my friends son is about 15 to 20% of the police force will be stepping down come January 1st because they're afraid of defunding the police. They're afraid that they're not going to have any restraint, respect that Mandani is not going to give them the. The law. I shouldn't say the way.

[David Zier]

The ability to do their job.

[Bruce Blakeman]

Thank you.

[Jay Weinstein]

The ability to do their job. The way it needs to be done. And they're afraid, you know, that the criminals are going to rule New York City and they're going to get hurt because they are being hindered.

[David Zier]

Well, this year alone, there's been about 67,000 felony and misdemeanor assaults. It's an incredible number. Rape is still up 17% in New York City, and they talk about shootings being down 20% and murders being down 20%, but other things are up and the quality of life isn't there.

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[Jay Weinstein]

Let's be honest here. I don't believe any of those numbers. They tell you. We all know that they play with the numbers. They hold off on the numbers until after the fact, and then they put them in there where it doesn't show in the polls. Polls are meaningless.

[David Zier]

And Bragg is pleading down the felonies to misdemeanors, right?

[Jay Weinstein]

That is correct.

[David Zier]

But Mandani doesn't believe in misdemeanors, right?

[Jay Weinstein]

No, he doesn't. He believes a social worker can handle.

[Bruce Blakeman]

All this for sure.

[David Zier]

So Long island has a lot of issues that are that. That are bellwether for the rest of the nation. Like Loudoun county was. We have transgender issues. Now, Nassau County, Bruce Blakeman here is really rigid on preventing men and women's sports. But you have a controversy in a local school district in Massapequa. Tell us about it.

[Jay Weinstein]

Yes. Massapequa right now has a transgender child that wants to go into the ladies bathroom and change and be one of them. The girls do not want it. They've been very vocal about it. They feel uncomfortable. They feel, you know, they're already having a tough time coming out, you know, growing up right now, and now they have to do this in front of a kid. Now, the school was amazing, what they did. They created a bathroom specifically for this one child. This way it doesn't interfere with anyone else. Everybody feels comfortable.

[David Zier]

That was turned down by the student, right?

[Jay Weinstein]

That's correct. That is correct. The student turned it down. Wasn't good enough for him. So the parents and LGBTQ are suing the school district over.

[David Zier]

So I covered Loudoun county schools with that controversy. You know, the kid gets secretly shipped to another school, assaults another girl, and. But the PTA had a solution in Loudoun county to have let him use one of the teachers lounge bathrooms to change and do his thing, but the school rejected it. Is it purposely trying to shove this down our throats?

[Jay Weinstein]

Yes, it is. They are trying to shove it down. That all comes back to the Democrats who are allowing this. They're refusing to stop this. They think it's funny. They think it's amazing thing because they're going to get votes from the lgbtq, but it actually hurts women. I mean, look what happened in Virginia. If you remember, an LGBTQ person went into a woman's bath. I shouldn't say lgbtq. Sorry. A transgender went into a woman's bathroom and raped a girl in Virginia.

[Bruce Blakeman]

Yeah.

[David Zier]

It's unbelievable. And then got transferred and did it again, you know, without anybody knowing. All right, I want to talk about Massapequa Takapusha Indian, the mascot, by the way. My mother made the Indian symbol in Massapequa when she was 13 years old. Seventy years ago, she won an art contest they adopted as a village seal. So Chief Takapusha sold the Rockaway Peninsula here to the Dutch in a civilized transaction. It was. It wasn't. The white man came in and killed everybody. And the school adopted the Takapusha logo, especially for the village of Massapequa and the high school. Now they're getting rid of it. Tell us where that stands.

[Jay Weinstein]

Well, the problem is, what Hokul doesn't realize or doesn't care to realize is Long island was all indigenous. It was all Indians.

[David Zier]

That's what everything's named after, Indians.

[Jay Weinstein]

That's correct. Massapequa alone's name is named after a tribe of the Indians. And it's disrespectful to remove the logo when this is respectful.

[David Zier]

It's in honor of the Indians.

[Jay Weinstein]

That is correct.

[David Zier]

They're not being exploited.

[Jay Weinstein]

No, they're not in any trade, actually. Most of the Indians wanted to remain. They're actually fighting it.

[David Zier]

Yeah. Konekwa School here on Long island had to change their name from the Thunderbirds, right?

[Jay Weinstein]

That's correct. And thank God Massapequa is standing the ground, and they are fighting this. They have been going to court. They lost the first round, but they are going back. And Trump has stepped in and is trying to help out Massapequa as well.

[David Zier]

Wow. Tell us about affordability on Long Island. You see? You see, you know, people scaling back for the holidays. What's your assessment?

[Jay Weinstein]

Yes, people are scaling back, unfortunately. I mean, Trump's doing an amazing job, but it's very hard to bring down what Biden. Cause it takes a long time, unfortunately. People have to be patient. But food is expensive. I mean, your eggs is, you know, come down. But milk is skyrocketing. 16% at this point. Yeah, you got.

[David Zier]

Things are down. Rolls are down 16, 16%. Mashed potatoes, I think, are down now one and a half percent. But it's not quick enough, right?

[Jay Weinstein]

No, it's not. And you know, people are really hurting during the Christmas times with people losing their jobs right now, inflation being as high as it is, people can't afford to do an average meal. They can't do a family function anymore.

[David Zier]

Yeah, no, I get it. So tell us, what are you thankful for on the Thanksgiving holiday?

[Jay Weinstein]

I am thankful for, you know, just being here, having a wonderful family. I'm thankful for Trump getting in as president of the United States because without him, we'd be in dire need. I mean, having sleepy Joe in there, forget about Kamala Harris being in there, we'd really be in trouble. So at least he's trying to protect us and get us back to where we need to be.

[David Zier]

All right, well, maybe we'll get back there. And I appreciate your time, Jay.

[Jay Weinstein]

Thank you so much.

[David Zier]

Have a great Thanksgiving holiday.

[Jay Weinstein]

Happy and healthy, my friend.

[David Zier]

Thank you for everything. And thanks for bringing the crowd down here to the diner. It's nice.

[Jay Weinstein]

Of course.

[David Zier]

All right, real American voices on the ground. Don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with more breaking point on Real America's Voice news.

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[Greg Hack]

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[David Zier]

Wait to see Santa's two hours.

[Michelle Morrow]

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[David Zier]

I've got a tree to pick up.

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[Rodney Williams]

I'm Rodney Williams. And I'm Travis Holloway. Welcome to the Wealth Break. Let's be honest, building wealth doesn't look the same for everyone. It's not just about saving. It's about investing. It's about navigating systems that weren't built for you, embracing your hustle, and relying on your community to create something bigger. And that's exactly why we created the wealthbreak. We made something different, something more human. It's not just another financial podcast. It's a conversation about real life, real struggles, and real wins. We're here to talk about the journey you're hearing from people who've broken barriers, found creative ways to succeed, and learn to build wealth on their terms. Whether it's the first time homeowner, a gig worker, or someone turning a side hustle into a six figure business, we're bringing you their stories. And we're not stopping at success stories. We're breaking down the realities, like what it means to take risk, how to navigate failure, and why resilience matters. Because wealth isn't about money. It's about creating a life where you can thrive and help others to do the same. So if you're ready for a podcast as much as about people as it is about money, you're in the right place. Listen to the Wealth Brave podcast on the iHeartRadio app.

[David Zier]

I interviewed real American voices on the ground at the Great Bethpage Embassy Diner. You know, a commuting community to New York City, a suburb outside of New York City here. But their problems are the nation's problems. You know, people are dealing with Affordability issues if you're in business, high insurance prices, general liabilities through the roof. If you're in food, the food costs are high. Their supply chain, you can't get good help. Nobody wants to work anymore. The work ethic's gone. But the place was beautiful at the Bethpage Diner. And I got to speak with Bruce Blakeman, who's a Nassau county executive. He's doing a great job with ice. Doing a great job to put it back barrier up between Mamdani and Nassau county, which neighbors New York City. He may run for governor, but I think it's Elise Stefaniks for the wanting, and she's got a lot of money. But he is a terrific county executive. Maybe tossing his hat into the gubernatorial race. Check out my interview with Nassau County Executive Bruce Blakeman. Really a standard bearer for the rest of the country to follow. This guy is really great. Check it out here at the Bethpage Embassy Diner. This place is a landmark for six, seven decades over here in Nassau County. But we're honest to have with us a very popular county executive just won reelection here in Nassau County, Long Island. Bruce Blakeman. How are you?

[Bruce Blakeman]

I'm doing great. You are in the most patriotic diner in all of America. Gus does an amazing job and we love him here.

[David Zier]

Yeah, it's. It's extraordinary. And his family too, you know, and, you know, it's hard to be in business, right? In New York. You've got a lot of overhead, you know, the insurances, you know, the regulation. Hard to find labor. Right. Tell us about the Nassau economy and what you're doing to address and keep it, you know, because Nassau's doing pretty well compared to most counties. Right.

[Bruce Blakeman]

Nassau is doing great. Our economy is booming. People are moving to Nassau County. Businesses are moving to Nassau County. We have full employment. We have the lowest poverty rate of any county in New York State. And it's not easy because we're fighting the liberal woke anti business policies of Albany and Governor Hochul. And now we have a communist as the mayor of New York City, which is bordering on Nassau County. So it's not easy. But our people are very hardworking. They believe in hard work and that you get rewards if you play by the rules. And our economy is doing incredibly well. We're the safest county in America. Niche magazine said we're the most desirable place to live in New York State. And our economy is doing great. So if you want a great job, you want to move your business here, Nassau county is the place to be.

[David Zier]

Okay, let's Talk about you born in New York City, right? You feel like you're the last line of defense. You're in between Suffolk county and New York City. A lot of commuters, hundreds of thousands of commuters go into New York City every day. New York and New York, New York Police Department, fdny, Financial Services. Do you think any of those are going to be affected by Mamdani being there?

[Bruce Blakeman]

Well, I definitely think they're going to be affected if, in fact, he does what he says he's going to do, which I think will just kill the city. We love New York City. We're on the border of New York City. A lot of our people, as you said, work in New York City. And we're very concerned about a guy that wants to defund the police. He wants to send social workers on 911 calls instead of police officers. He talks about free bus rides will just become rolling homeless shelters. He's got the wrong approach. The right approach is to create wealth and prosperity that makes life more affordable for people because they get a better wage, they can afford more things, they get better benefits. So we in Nassau county have a different approach. We're trying to create wealth and prosperity and economic development that creates better jobs and that gives people a better lifestyle, and that makes things more affordable, not just giving free handouts, which doesn't materially improve anybody's job.

[David Zier]

No, it doesn't. And just his bus plan is about 7.5 billion. He's going to face an $18 billion shortfall next year. Trump's got all eyes on him, right?

[Bruce Blakeman]

Yeah. Well, President Trump, he's the master negotiator. He wrote the Art of the Deal. He's somebody that knows how to deal with all types of people. And we're very fortunate to have him as president. I can't imagine if Kamala Harris was president right now, that would be a disaster. And he's doing a great job. He's done more in 10 months than any president in my memory. So we love President Trump here in Nassau County.

[David Zier]

Let's talk about. You've been. You've been a leader and a national leader in the forefront of men and women's sports. You bandit in Nassau county, right?

[Bruce Blakeman]

We were the first county in all of America where we said, boys play with boys and girls play with girls. I had little girls from a soccer team come to me, and they said to me, hey, we don't want boys playing in our sport. We work really hard to make our team, and it's unfair and it's Also unsafe having biological males and girls sports, and they don't want them in their bathrooms, in the locker rooms either. So I gotta tell you, I. I don't understand the lack of common sense on people who want to put biological males in girls sports and put them in their locker rooms, in their bathrooms. We don't. We don't do that here in Nassau County.

[David Zier]

And the parents have been really outspoken. You got Massapequa schools, right? There's new controversy. A boy who wants to be a woman wants to use the girls bathrooms and locker rooms. So I covered Loudoun county, right? And down there, they had a solution for the kid who assaulted the girl, raped a girl, did it again after he was transferred. But the PTA had a solution to use the teacher's lounge for him to go to the bathroom and change. Of course, the school rejected it. Are they purposely sticking it in the eye of the parents or what's going on?

[Bruce Blakeman]

Well, I can't speak to what others are doing other than the fact that here in Nassau county, we use common sense.

[David Zier]

Yeah.

[Bruce Blakeman]

We adhere to American values. Both my parents were World War II veterans. My mother joined the Army. They taught us values that basically, unfortunately, there are a lot of people want to destroy American values, and a lot of it's coming from people who haven't been here very long. And I don't know why we're letting people in our country that don't embrace America.

[David Zier]

Two more quick things. Thanksgiving holiday here, right? Takapusha, right? Indian chief here. And, you know, he sold to the Dutch the Rockaway Peninsula, right? It wasn't taken by force by the white man. Right. It was a. It's a. The. The Massapequa School District has Takapusha as their symbol. My mother designed the logo for Massapequa Park 70 years ago when she was 13. They kept it to this day with. With Takapusha in there, and now they want to get rid of it here. But it's in honor of the Indians, right? It's not an insult.

[Bruce Blakeman]

Well, first of all, you should know I'm an honorary Massapequa chief, so, okay, I wear my Massapequa chief chief jacket. I mean, it's just ridiculous. Governor Hochul doesn't have anything better to do than to come to schools and tell them that they have to change their mascot. Look, a chief, to me, it means leadership. It means somebody who's in a position of power. So using the chief mascot is not pejorative to the Indians. It's. It's actually saying good things about Native Americans. And same thing with the Wantor Warriors. They want to ban Warriors. What's wrong with that? It shows courage. I just think that these people are ridiculous. They think of new things every day. Don't get me started on all the pronouns and all that stuff.

[David Zier]

And. And Cleveland Indians named their baseball club after Penobscot Indian, who was a terrific baseball player. I wanted to talk about Kathy Hochul is, you know, she's. She backed away from Mamdani a little bit on the, you know, taxing the middle class and. But now she wants to raise corporate taxes in New York State. That's not sustainable, right?

[Bruce Blakeman]

Well, it's a huge mistake. People are leaving our state by the droves, except for in Nassau county. And they're going to other places that are more business friendly. And it's just ridiculous to raise the corporate tax because it's a tax on the middle class. It makes us less affordable. Why are they raising taxes at a time where we should be lowering taxes? I haven't raised taxes one dime, one penny in four years in Nassau County. And yet I've hired over 100 cops. I've hired, excuse me, over 400 cops, 200 correctional officers, probation officers. We're hiring law enforcement officers. We're managing our budget. We got seven bond upgrades. I don't know why the governor can't manage her financial affairs. Maybe it's because she's giving billions and billions of dollars to illegal migrants who've been here for 10 minutes and they haven't earned it. But she's giving everything away to free for them.

[David Zier]

You've been on the forefront of cooperating with ice. I know. You said last month alone, or in October, November, you. You deported 47 illegals or. Tell us about your ICE efforts.

[Bruce Blakeman]

Sure. So again, Nassau county was the first. We have the most comprehensive agreement with ICE. We work in cooperation with ICE and it's been a great collaborative effort. So last month we took out 47 illegal migrants who had criminal records. 27 of them were in gang related activities. Because we have an agreement with ice. We removed them not only from Nassau county, but from the whole region and all of America. In addition, the other day we had somebody come through the Arizona border from Mexico. A Romanian with an Irish passport and a New York City driver's license committing thefts. Here we picked him up. He would have been let free because of cashless bail. Another stupid thing. But we had an agreement with ice. We called ice. They came to the precinct, they picked that individual up. They're gone. So we're very happy to have an agreement with ice.

[David Zier]

All right. And I just wanted to last but not least, what does Thanksgiving mean to you and what are you going to be doing?

[Bruce Blakeman]

Well, it's probably one of my favorite holidays because we should thank God each and every day for all of our blessings. And it's an American tradition. It's an American holiday. And I just want to wish everybody out there a happy and healthy Thanksgiving. And thank you for what you're doing. And may God bless America.

[David Zier]

Yeah. Thank you for joining us with real American voices. The hard working people, the middle class, the Long island here in Nassau county, the great Nassau County. And thank you again.

[Bruce Blakeman]

Now I'm going to get my omelet. All right.

[David Zier]

Sounds good. Thank you. Appreciate it. Yeah, it's wonderful.

[Bruce Blakeman]

Thank you.

[David Zier]

We always love seeing Maria from Switch to usa. How are you?

[Michelle Morrow]

I am doing very well. I am so pumped that we are here in Long Island. Thank you.

[David Zier]

Yeah, it's great. And I see you everywhere. I saw you in Schnecksville, Pennsylvania, Wildwood, New Jersey. Is there anywhere you don't go?

[Michelle Morrow]

There is nowhere we don't go.

[David Zier]

Absolutely. You've been a supporter of Real America's Voice Breaking Point for some time now. Tell us about Switch to usa.

[Michelle Morrow]

Well, Switch to USA is the mom and pop American manufacturer and we are the parallel economy for all of your essentials. And you never know when you might need another supply chain. Wink, wink.

[David Zier]

So all made on American soil by American factory workers.

[Michelle Morrow]

Amen to that. We have to rebuild our economy and we are doing it.

[David Zier]

Where can our viewers find you?

[Michelle Morrow]

Please come to switchthenumber2usa.com Switch to USA.com we love Maria.

[David Zier]

So great to see you.

[Michelle Morrow]

Thank you so much. David, we love you too. Thank you everyone.

[David Zier]

Awesome. Thank you, Maria. We'll be right back with more Breaking Point on Real America's voice news.

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[Rodney Williams]

I'm Rodney Williams. And I'm Travis Holloway. Welcome to the Wealth Break. Let's be honest, building wealth doesn't look the same for everyone. It's not just about saving. It's about investing. It's about navigating systems that weren't built for you, embracing your hustle and relying on your community to create something bigger. And that's exactly why we created the wealthbreak. We made something different, something more human. It's not just another financial podcast. It's a conversation about real life, real struggles, and real wins. We're here to talk about the journey. You're hearing from people who've broken barriers, found creative ways to succeed, and learn to build wealth on their terms. Whether it's the first time homeowner, a gig worker, or someone turning a Side hustle into a six figure business. We're bringing you their stories, and we're not stopping at success stories. We're breaking down the realities, like what it means to take risk, how to navigate failure, and why resilience matters. Because wealth isn't about money. It's about creating a life where you can thrive and help others to do the same. So if you're ready for a podcast as much as about people as it is about money, you're in the right place. Listen to the Wealth Break podcast on the iHeartRadio app.

[David Zier]

Welcome back to Breaking Point. I'm David Zier. I hope everybody had a wonderful Thanksgiving with their families. And, you know, one of the great things about being part of Real America's Voice is we're in touch with the people on the ground. I covered probably close to 150, 200 Trump events, probably about 100 rallies on the ground in many states. I've been to 38 states with the network, and the people are great. But one of the great things is, you know, I've been doing it since 2019 with them. And we meet people who emerge later. You know, they tell me on the ground, oh, I'm involved with my school board. Oh, I'm involved with this, or I want to get involved. And then all of a sudden, three years later, they're like powerhouses, grassroots powerhouses. And one of those people who I got to interview in Wilmington last year, we met on the ground, Michelle Morrow, the founder for the national alliance for Education Reform. Michelle, how are you?

[Michelle Morrow]

Hey, I'm doing great. And I so appreciate the opportunity to be back with you.

[David Zier]

Yeah. I mean, it's amazing how the Trump rallies and things like CPAC and TPUSA and all that over the years have led to so many grassroots activists. This is bottom up. Nobody from CBS News or George Soros is paying you, Right?

[Michelle Morrow]

Right. Actually, they were paying to campaign against me.

[David Zier]

Yeah. Oh, that's for sure. That's for sure. Okay. So I first met you in Wilmington last year. I did a couple of rallies there. One of them, the jet flew over and couldn't land, so everyone had to leave. That was disappointing. But I was so moved by your message when I saw you on the war room last week, I was like, oh, my God, that's Michelle. And because your message was really moving, and you were like, I'm running for the department head of the Superintendent of Education in North Carolina. Right. So tell us what's going on. You know, you have an immigration crackdown. You got 30,000 plus students not showing up for the schools. Tell us the story.

[Michelle Morrow]

Well, you know, unfortunately, they want to make this be about just one bad day, but that's really not what was happening. What's happening is this is the result of years and years of, of just abuse of our immigration system. And what we've been doing is telling our students for the last 20 years that you're not responsible for yourself, that we are celebrating lawlessness. And I tell you, when we have students that are curs, law enforcement that are praising lawlessness, and we have our parents and our teachers on the sidelines cheering them on, we know that we are in a very dangerous place in our country.

[David Zier]

What, what a twisted, twisted, twisted culture we have. And I see it and I get exactly what you're, you're saying. So tell us what happened on that day. The students didn't go to school in protest because, or were they, were people saying they were afraid of ICE coming into the school? What was the real story?

[Michelle Morrow]

Well, really, it's the fear mongering of the left. Right. They were telling people not to go to school because they could be kidnapped by these law enforcement agents that were going to come into the schools and take them away. That's what it began as. That's why we see that they didn't come to school on Monday. But then as the week progressed last week, we saw students just leaving their classrooms and as I said, cursing ICE and walking around, you know, throwing things and being angry and leaving the schools. And that was all in protest of us wanting to enforce our immigration. So it's, it's very interesting because if you even listen for a few minutes to the nea, the National Educators association, it's very clear that they have weaponized our schools in the United States of America. They are now teaching our children to be political activists, to be social justice warriors, quote, unquote. But the majority of our kids can't even read or write or do math at grade level. And so see that, that's where we've come to.

[David Zier]

Yeah, I mean, starting with the Department of Education under Obama and Biden and probably Clinton, and all the way through the NEA, the teachers unions tacitly endorsing, you know, 13 year old kids getting converted to trying to convert them to another sex, which is impossible, and then sterilizing them for life. Transgender dysphoria sets in at a later age, you know, and the decisions, they regret, the decisions just like the, you know, a lot of people, so many people. So it's really crazy. So who's behind the efforts in your area in Charlotte? Can you point to specific groups? And by the way, when we're done, I got to go get my ice scraper and then return it to Home Depot. But who's behind your opposition?

[Michelle Morrow]

Well, I would say that it's the education system itself. For instance, here in Wake County. Wake county is now the largest school district in the state of North Carolina. And our superintendent was encouraging students to stay home and telling them that he would allow them to do online classes because he wanted to protect them from ice. Well, this is the problem, and you kind of pointed to it a little bit when we talk about Obama. He started something called restorative justice. And restorative justice, in a nutshell, is you're not responsible for what you do. We have children that there are no behavioral standards. There is no standard code of ethics in our classrooms. It's just absolute chaos. And what we're seeing is we're doing the same thing that these people left their countries to flee from. Right? When you talk about people seeking a sign, what were they leaving? They were leaving danger. They were leaving lawlessness. They were leaving chaos. And now we have that, not just in our schools, but in our entire communities, because this is just a symptom of a bigger problem. This is not just our schools that are being impacted. This is our hospitals, this is our highways, this is our courtrooms. Because we cannot handle the millions of people that are here that the left invited here not to become Americans. They're just here to get the benefit of the generosity of America. And we are the ones that are paying the price for that. And our students and our children and the next generation are not going to have the opportunities. They're not going to have the nation that we grew up in. And that's why it's time to crack down. This has been years of just letting lawlessness go. And as I said when I was on Steve's show last week, you know, corrections are difficult. And we are having to correct something that's been going on for nearly 20 years in promising people that they can come to our nation and that they don't have to do it legally. And it's time for that, and it's time for them to go back home and to either come back legally or go back and change your nation and make it free. Go back. If you want to push against a government, why don't you go back to the government where you were born and make it be a nation where people would want to live?

[David Zier]

Yeah, I was Gonna say, you know, like Mamdani's stupid speech on election night. He plays this cool guy. I'm a cool. I play soccer. And he relates all the young kids. Then he looks like Che Guevara on election night, saying that the immigrants are gonna rise up and take power, like he's talking to a lithium mine with teenagers in the Congo or something. And that the immigrants are all oppressed in the United States. Well, any one of them has a better life in the United States than they did from their countries of origin. So why not lift them up and make them appreciate and assimilate. By the way, I spent a lot of time in Wake County. I was there on election night for the presidential election last year. And I watched North Carolina shift, right? Less Democrat votes, more Republican votes, early voters in the western part of the state, young people, 47% of the 36% of the vote that are unaffiliated. What leaning Republican helped elect Donald Trump. So where do the. I'll give you the last word a minute and a half. Where do the young people stand in our education system? Is there hope in North Carolina that we're gonna have responsible kids coming out of the schools?

[Michelle Morrow]

Well, honestly, right now, I think you're gonna have to be in a private school, because right now, the superintendent that won has actually been pushing the LGBTQ agenda. And as I stated, you know, just a few minutes ago, I have a lot of hope, actually, for the college students. The young people that were following Charlie Kirk that were a part of Turning Point usa, they're getting it. They are figuring out that socialism is not the answer. They are recognizing what an incredible blessing it is to be a United States citizen. They are coming back to their faith in God and the foundational principles and the morality and the integrity that made us the greatest country in the history of the world. And I just want to say this. When we're talking about making America great again, the way that we do that is we make America America again. And we are going to be proud yet again to be citizens in this nation. And that's what we need to infuse into our children. That's what we need to be raising.

[David Zier]

Up 100% in about 30 seconds. Tell our viewers where they can follow you and get involved.

[Michelle Morrow]

Well, you can finally me on Most platforms at MichelleMarrow NC and or you can go to my website, which is forbettered.org it looks like forbettered, but it's F O R B E T T E R e d dot org.

[David Zier]

All right, what are you thankful for on Thanksgiving this holiday?

[Michelle Morrow]

I am thankful to be in the United States and I'm thankful that President Trump is our president.

[David Zier]

All right, Michelle Morrow, so great to meet you last year. I'm really proud of you. You've really taken on a big fight and a burden on behalf of the good people who are tired of being told they're the bad people. Michelle Morrow, everybody. And have a great weekend. Thank you.

[Michelle Morrow]

Thanks, you too.

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