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Welcome everybody. You're watching Breaking Point on Real America's Voice News. I'm David Zier. Thank you for joining the Raff family. Download the Real America's Voice news app. Carry it around with you all day. Tell a family member, tell a friend. That is your homework assignment this week. And get some people to watch Real America's Voice because we are telling the truth. An incredible week across the country here. Not a lot of surprises. But the Democratic socialists of America on the rise across America, especially New York City, you know, they're being exploited. These young kids who can't buy a house are saddled with student loan debt and they're being told they're going to get free stuff. But they fail to recognize that it's been generations of policy by the Democrats that have caused these issues. And in New York State, you know, Republicans, too, the spending's out of control, but the Democratic policies in New York State and New York City are like so far left and so far radical. It's like Che Guevara's in charge and, oh, wait a minute, he is now in New York City, right? We're going to get into the election and all that stuff. But I want to welcome our first guest. I'm so honored to have with us retired US Navy Lieutenant Commander Thomas E. Caldwell. He's the author of a new book, the Mouths of of the wicked, a true January 6 story of corruption, persecution, survival and victory. Welcome to the show, sir.
Thomas E. Caldwell
Thank you so much for having me, David.
David Zier
Yeah, I've been waiting for the release of this book. I know, like, this week was the first time, right? You're unveiling it and appearing in media. You are living peacefully on a Virginia family farm. And the FBI agents executed a pre dawn raid, a SWAT raid with. What were the charges?
Thomas E. Caldwell
Well, the charges were kind of a moving feast. They kept changing things. They originally said that I was a person who was the commander of the Oath Keepers, an organization that they said was, you know, right wing organization, that I stormed into the U.S. capitol with a bunch of highly trained people to hunt down Congressman. And of course that was all foolishness, but those were the first charges that came out against me. And over time those charges evolved because there was no evidence that I did anything wrong that day. And so it was just a matter of inventing some new things he thought would stick for a while.
David Zier
Yeah. And you claim that every single claim they had against you was false, right?
Thomas E. Caldwell
That's absolutely true. And I would like to tell your viewers that my J6 story is different from the story of every other January6 defendant ever. And in this book, I lay out all of the information that has been blocked from the American people. I brought the receipts, as they say. So I've got the documentation, I've got the so called evidence, and the actual evidence. I make a pretty compelling story about what I consider to be the only true conspiracy related to January six yet proved.
David Zier
Yeah. So everything we've been saying, just like, you know, Hillary and on the meetings to go after Trump in 2015, everything we've been saying from day one about J6 is true. And you know, there was antifa present. John Sullivan knew it was going to happen. You know, this was a setup. And they were antifa and FBI agents actually outside, you know, and with people on the other side breaking windows of the Capitol. It wasn't Trump' Trump supporters. It wasn't your average J Sixer there. And also the Oath Keepers, I've interacted with Oath Keepers for decades and they were salt of the earth. They were retired cops and firefighters. But you were never a member of the Oath Keepers. You never entered the Capitol, you never planned an attack. And the government has admitted this, right?
Thomas E. Caldwell
That's absolutely true. And they knew very early on that they had gotten it wrong. And yet they came after me like they came after no one else. They said that I was the top banana, the big cheese, and I was the mastermind of January 6, even though they did absolutely no investigation on me whatsoever before they sent a SWAT team to our farm in Virginia, nearly killed my darling wife on the front porch of our home, and they dragged me away to solitary confinement. So one of the things that was really chilling was my very first Lawyer said, the DOJ knows that you're innocent, but you know what? They don't care.
David Zier
Have you seen a change, you know, Trump? The Trump administration supposedly is conducting a review of FBI leadership and the 4,000 agents who worked on the J6 cases. Do you have any confidence that things are going to come out even further?
Thomas E. Caldwell
Well, I think that we're seeing some stuff dribble out. But like most American citizens, I find myself a little bit impatient with the new DOJ under Pam Bondi and the new FBI under Cash Patel. I think the American people know that there's something that doesn't smell right, and they've waited for a long time to find out what's really going on. Instead, they're getting a lot of shucking and jiving. They're getting a lot of obfuscation, and people are getting pretty much tired of that. And I will say that all of that, all of that obfuscation and the lack of accountability that ends with this book, because I'll tell you, David, I name names and I tell people exactly what happened. At least in my case, it's improper for me to talk about anybody else's case, but I know my case very, very well. I tell people who did what to whom and when they did it. And you better believe, as a longtime intelligence officer in the employee of the United States Navy supporting our country, I know how to do my research and I know how to pull things together and display them in a reasonable way so that people can follow and come to their own conclusions. This is a very personal story, but it's one that's fortified with facts from front to back.
David Zier
Well, for me personally and again, I wasn't charged with any J6 crimes, and I wasn't through what you were. But I have a lot of faith in Cash Patel. I think a lot's going to happen in the next couple of years with him, but we'll see, right? We have to wait and see. But you have outstanding military service. You're a decorated veteran. Right. Lieutenant Commander in the U.S. navy. Tell us really quickly about your military experience, and then I want to talk about where people can get your book.
Thomas E. Caldwell
Sure. Well, I was an intelligence officer primarily for the 20 years that I was on active duty. I served afloat and overseas and in Congress for all that time. And I've written lots and lots of intelligence assessments and briefed the power brokers in D.C. and within the Navy, Navy, a lot of four stars, a lot of congressmen and so on. And it was very rewarding work. And I would have stayed there until I dropped dead, but it was time for other people to take over the mantle. And I was so proud to serve our country. And this was a really rough thing for me to deal with, especially when I was charged with seditious conspiracy, which means the attempt to overthrow the government, the government of the country that you and I both love so much. And it really cut to the quick.
David Zier
And because of your background, I'm assuming you corrected their assumptions that you were doing all this stuff, right? You corrected the record.
Thomas E. Caldwell
Well, we sure did. I mean, we. We did a lot in federal court. And yet the Department of Justice lawyers just kept coming at us, and they. They lied and they obfuscated and they made up phony exhibits and they suborned perjury. And they're all operating under a thing called absolute immunity, David, which means do anything that they want to do. And there's never any censure for them, and there's never any corrective action that anybody can take against them. So even when they were proved to be falsifying stuff during trial, and it's. It's all in the federal record and in the transcripts of trial, they just kept spewing that stuff. And so since there was never any evidence against me in. In court, it seemed. It seemed reasonable to call this book the Mouths of the Wicked, because everything was coming from the fantasy canon of the DOJ attorneys.
David Zier
Wow. And you never even entered the Capitol. And they called you a terrorist and an assassin. You're a disabled veteran in your 60s, and they treated you like a violent extremist guy. You know, it's really crazy. You're a grandfather, you're a Christian, you're a decorated military member. Why does the audience need to hear this? We have a minute left. I'll give you the last word and tell us where people can buy your book.
Adam Weiss
Thank you.
Thomas E. Caldwell
Well, this is a story that a lot of people don't want the American people to hear. It's going to blow away a lot of the presumptions that they have about what happened January6. And we see a lot of information coming out slowly. This is going to, I hope, send that forward. We want to educate people. We want to give glory to God because it was God who pulled us through when being innocent was not enough. People can find this book@puffin publishers.com. that's P U F F I and Puffin like the bird. Puffin publishers.com. we hope people will read it. They'll find it enlightening at a minimum. And somebody has to tell this story. Somebody has to get the word out to the American people. And my wife and I, we endured so much and we kept together with our faith in our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. And we believe that this is a story that really needs to be told. Because it's not just the things that happened to us that were terrible. It's about us not letting them steal our joy. We lived in faith and hope, and the miracles brought by our Lord and Father were, were just there. They just cannot be refuted.
David Zier
Yeah. And you know, you were saying, like, even a pardon doesn't bring full restoration for somebody. Where do you get your good name back? Right? I want to thank you so much. Thomas Caldwell, retired Lieutenant Commander in the US Navy. Go out and get the book today and we'll have you back. Okay, Thomas.
Thomas E. Caldwell
Thanks, David. Anytime.
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Democratic Socialists of America on the rise across this nation, especially in New York City. You know, no big surprises for me in the mayoral race. Mamdani really didn't get a mandate. Cuomo didn't campaign that hard. Adams had to, you know, basically drop out of the race due to corruption and other things. So. But I was on the ground at a polling station down in Greenwich Village. I got to spend a few minutes with three young female Pace University students and I just want to bring you inside the mindset of these Mamdani supporters. Check it out. Hi there. Can I just ask you what issues were important to you in the city today and why you voted?
Pace University Student 1
Housing is important. I think that's something that affects all of New Yorkers and everyone in the city.
David Zier
Right. Cost of living.
Pace University Student 1
Yeah.
David Zier
How about you?
Pace University Student 1
What was the question again?
David Zier
What issues are important to you in New York City and why did you vote?
Pace University Student 1
I think affordability and I think Zoran's Mandani campaign, the way like the grassroots, how he has involved everyone from the Ground up like local working class. And it's just something that really inspires, I think, everyday New Yorkers because everyone belongs here, not just big billionaires or millionaires or anything. You know, we need to, like, remember that New York City is for the people.
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How about you?
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I agree with both of them. I think we live in the most expensive state and city in the country.
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So are you.
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Did you guys go to college here?
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We do go to college.
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Where do you go?
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Pace University.
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You're all at Pace. Okay.
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So housing 3, 4, 5,000amonth. No matter where you go, no matter where you go.
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We all live off of campus, so we know what it's like to pay.
Pace University Student 1
Rent in the city. And just, we are Zoran supporters and.
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It'S nice to see a younger candidate as well who came from the bottom. And like, it's really inspiring for our generation to see someone like that and.
Pace University Student 1
To be able to look up to someone who knows so much about those things.
David Zier
Sure. What about the prospect that, you know, Zoran businesses may leave New York City because of his election?
Pace University Student 1
Oh, my gosh. So like, for example, that guy that owns the Gristildes or Steedies, John Katz and Matitis, like, leave go if you want to go. No one likes your.
David Zier
Built his business up from nothing, so.
Pace University Student 1
But no one likes his supermarkets anyway. He's a billionaire and billionaire now that one that is trying to take away from the grassroots campaign that Zorin has by going into these super PACs and everything. And for example, Andrew Cuomo's campaign, it's not for the people whatsoever at all. And I think the fact that all these people that are so elite that are saying they're going to leave New York City, leave, we need more affordable housing. We have a housing crisis. And you guys are the one, you.
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Need a healthy economy. And if there's no jobs, then nobody needs a house.
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Pace University Student 1
I think that comes from the presidential.
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Level and the Congress and all that stuff. And we can only do what's most important for New York right now.
Pace University Student 1
And also there's so many people. Sorry about that. There's so many people that, that are still rich and you know, of the top 1% that are saying, tax me, tax me so people can have food to live. You know, SNAP is going to be cut. Tax me so that these homeless people can get off the, can get off the streets. Like, and the male's race is so inconsequential compared to, like, you know, the governor. The governor has More say about all of these things than even the mayor does. So them saying that if a single mayor gets elected is like, oh, I'm.
David Zier
Going to leave on housing issues. It's more the mayor than the state.
Pace University Student 1
Correct, Correct. But, you know, there's a bunch of different things that are a plethora. If you're leaving for one issue that is, that's like single issue voting.
David Zier
Which do you think the burden should be on small business owners who work their whole life to open a business, run a business? And the cost in New York City to do business is the most expensive in the country. Right. So should they be taxed more?
Pace University Student 1
Of course not. The small business shouldn't necessarily be taxed more. And I don't think that that's necessarily what Zoran's message.
David Zier
There's a threshold for you where somebody can absorb a bigger hit.
Pace University Student 1
I mean, I think that's just taxes in general. There's always going to be a threshold of who can hit what, what, you know, who needs to be taxed the most and xyz. So it's, it's, there's always going to be a threshold for anything.
David Zier
There's commonality between the MAGA movement, the young people in the country on the right, the turning point, and others. You know, nobody can buy a house. You can't buy a house at 6% interest. It's very hard out there. And the student loans are out of control. These colleges are out of control. So I get the. I have sympathy or empathy for these people, but they don't understand economics. And here to discuss that is Stefano Forte. He's the president of the New York Young Republicans. How are you, sir?
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I'm doing well. Now that I'm on with you, how are you doing?
David Zier
I'm great. I'm great. You know, Mamdani gives this speech. I was saying it's like Che Guevara and IDI Amin had a love child and he's like in some like, Indian coal mine, getting people to, you know, rise up and kill everybody. And, you know, it's exaggerated. Right. These immigrants have a better life than they did in the countries they came from here in New York City, Right?
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Absolutely. They have much better lives here. But it goes a little bit deeper and I think we need to discuss how deep it goes. If we are truly saying that people are coming to this country for a better life, why are they voting for the conditions that they needed to leave in the first place? Why are they voting for socialists that are going to destroy the country that they're fleeing to. We need to have a serious conversation, not only about illegal immigration, but legal immigration as well. Who are we bringing into the country that is sympathetic to these ideas? Who are we bringing into the country that are potential Mamdani voters? I saw a poll, and it was staggering, showing that foreigners who have come to this country, first generation New Yorkers, they are 100% behind Mamdani. I believe it was around 70 to 65% for Mamdani. So those are staggering numbers, and we need to have a serious conversation as to why they're doing that.
David Zier
Yeah. And 78% or so of young people voted for Mamdani. It's scary, but, like, these three girls I interviewed with outside the polling station down in the village, you know, the other people came on camera, they're all concerned about crime. Rape is up 18% in the city, 65,000. Felony and misdemeanor assault. The DA is not prosecuting felonies. The cops have their hands tied. But, you know, these three girls, like, they didn't understand the essence. They were blasting Katsama Titus for owning shopping centers. And he's a billionaire, but, like, he started from nothing, right? And he built these businesses up. They don't get it. The economics and the policies, Right?
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No, I. I think, unfortunately, when the stomach is hungry, the mind will eat anything. And right now, there are young people in this country that do not believe that the United States is a place where they can own a home. They do not believe the United States is a place where they can have children. They don't believe it's safe. They don't believe it's affordable. So what they're doing is they're finding somebody like a Zoran Mamdani, and they're saying, okay, this is our hero. This is the person that will lead us out of this poverty. This is the playbook that socialist leaders have used for generation after generation. You have a elite in this country that tend not to care about the concerns of the poor and working class and the middle class. So what you have are conditions being made that are perfect for Zoran Mamdani when it comes to John Katsimatidis. I'm Greek myself. I'm Greek and Italian, so I have a soft spot in my heart for a Greek man that makes as much as he did and made something of himself and is successful. But people need to feel. Feel like that could be them. People need to feel like there's a road where they could become a John Katzy Matisse, they could become a Michael Bloomberg, they could become a Donald Trump. And right now my generation feels rather hopeless. They've. They're saddled with a tremendous amount of debt.
David Zier
Yeah, well, I. Listen, I have, I have sympathy. I paid for 72 years of Catholic school in college for our four kids.
Thomas E. Caldwell
Right.
David Zier
With my wife. And you know, you make less today than you did 30 years ago coming out of college and money's worth half and then student loans are double and triple of what they were. So I get it, you know, but you know, we need more vocation. People still have to work hard. And I'm not saying that everybody on the left isn't working hard. A lot of these kids, they're really disenfranchised and they're being exploited by the communist elite like Mamdani to fire them up as the proletariat, the working class against the bourgeoisie. Because like these girls are probably from the suburbs. Their parents are probably paying their rent in New York City. They're not suffering. You know, it's, it's, you know, but I, but I do, I do have empathy for it. What do you think?
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Yeah, look, if, if this was a group of people that wasn't working hard, Zoran Mamdani wouldn't be the mayor of New York City. I mean, they knocked on hundreds of thousands of doors. You know, this is not a group of people that weren't looking to go out there and win this election. So. So when it comes to this, you know, we're in a situation now where the conditions are way worse than our parents generation. But I believe that you're right. There is a group here that is looking to exploit this situation. And unfortunately, I don't believe that we have an answer for them right now.
David Zier
Yeah, well, I think we'll give it a year. The governor's race may go Republican next year. The city is fledgling and I hear the real estate brokers, they call it the Mamdani immigration or Mamdani migration. People are already calling to leave the city. What do you say?
Stefano Forte / America's Christian Credit Union Advertiser
Yeah, look, I. It's unfortunate that people are calling to leave the city. It's very, very sad. I want to improve, not move. But I can understand why people are dooming about New York City right now. We have a corrupt state legislature, we have a governor that is fully embraced, the Democratic Socialists of America. Cuz she knows if she doesn't, she's going to get a very difficult primary. There is really nobody in government right now that is representing the people of New York City other than a small minority of city council people of state legislators who 99% of them are Republican. There are some common sense Democrats, but they haven't really raised their voices. Not many of them have. Maybe a Bob Holden type like in the city council is a common sense Democrat, but we don't have anybody that's advocating for us. And you know, the only person that's winning from this is Governor Ron DeSantis in Florida and Governor Greg Abbott in Texas.
David Zier
Yes. And you know, Linda Sarsour, who's a super radical, said she's going to control Mandani. These groups that are going to be in city hall are scary. There's about five or six different groups here. And you know, I always compare Mamdani's speech right now to like Tyler Durden, a fight club, like, oh, he's going to burn down the system and all this. It was over, over the top here. Stefano, I want to give you the last word. We have about 30 seconds and where can people follow you?
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David Zier
Yeah, check it out everybody. Got a big one coming up in December. Stefano, thank you for coming on and we'll talk soon.
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David Zier
Back to Breaking Point. You are watching Real America's Voice news. Thank you for joining the Raff family. Crazy week around the country. None of the elections or Prop 50 or anything really surprised me. I think we all knew Northern Virginia is lost forever. New York City, they're just nuts. I don't think Cuomo campaigned hard enough. Mamdani and Sliwa did. And just remember, the five candidates under Sliwa on the ballot, including Sliwa's totals, still wouldn't have amassed enough to for Cuomo to overcome Mamdani's lead. So you know, it's they're ripping down American flags already in New York City, real estate agents are getting flooded with calls. But here to move out of New York and here to discuss all of that is my good friend. We spent many, many decades in New York in politics. Adam Weiss, host of Media Expose. How are you?
Adam Weiss
I'm good, Dave. Thanks for having me. And exploring right here in our state, right here in my city, it's unusual times. But this is what we have for the Gen Z crowd, the millennial crowd, the socialist crowd. People don't know it's the DSA is part of what it's called. They also have the Working Families Party. That's another party people don't know mostly across the country. Most states, there's two parties. Gop, Republican, Democrat. Here we have five, seven different parties on the line. So Mandani ran with two parties. He ran with the Working Families Party. He ran with the Democratic Party. Cuomo ran with the. The Independent Party, which was all the way down to the right. So. And Eric Adams was still on the ballot because once you say, I'm out, the current mayor, he couldn't. You can't take his name off the ballot. So a lot of moving parts working against Cuomo to begin with. And Sliwa stayed in the GOP nominee, which is his right. He's the Republican nominee. Why should he be forced out? Cuomo didn't register Republican. He's not Republican. He's not conservative, and he didn't even reach out to conservatives, David.
David Zier
So Cuomo, he made New York state a sanctuary state in 2017. 15,000 seniors died in our nursing homes. He signed in bail reform as governor, where thousands of New Yorkers have been assaulted, attacked, and some killed because of that legislation that he signed. He also said he's not going to cooperate with ice and, you know, so many things. So why would a Republican cross over to vote, vote for Cuomo?
Adam Weiss
And I had so many in my. They scared the g, the jeezies out of people so much that Madani is going to blow up the city, chase, you know, people away, ruin the city that all the Republican moderates I knew, friends, they were all supporting Cuomo. And it proved. And Trump's endorsement really hurt, I mean, helped Cuomo, because Staten. He won Staten Island. He won every district.
David Zier
Yeah, you would think Sliwa would have won Staten.
Adam Weiss
Yeah, I think Sleep won one or two districts. He won none, and Cuomo won him big. So they really listened to Trump, his endorsement, and, you know, it is what it is.
David Zier
But for some, they would never, ever vote for Cuomo. And he didn't campaign. He waited months to campaign on the ground. Sliwa and Mamdani. Mamdani had 100,000 volunteers. They both campaigned in all 300, basically, neighborhoods in New York City. And Cuomo did not do that.
Adam Weiss
Madani is a great actor, great campaign. He stuck to message. He stuck to a smile. And he had a basic, simple thing. Lower the food costs, get your free buses. You know, lower. Get free universal healthcare for children, freeze the rent. Basic, simple things that people can remember that will help young people right out of college, in college, working hard. And it's pretty simple. It's a populism message from the left. And it worked.
David Zier
Yeah, there's no doubt. I did exit polling and interview people leaving the polls. And like, these three girls from Pace University, all white girls from suburbia, the parents probably paying their rent. They were complaining about the prices in Manhattan. But all those things are because of democratic policy, and they don't get it. And they love Mamdani. Now Mamdani has this, like, cool person, cool cat. Like Obama, you know, cool. I'm a cool cat. And he ripped off his mask on election night at his victory party. He turned into Tyler Durden from Fight Club, trying to dismantle the whole system. And his speech was like, IDI Amin and Che Guevara had a kid and made a speech in the Congo in a diamond mine about to overthrow the government. But these immigrants aren't oppressed in New York City. Nobody's oppressed. They have better lives in New York City and America than any of them had in their countries of origin. Right.
Adam Weiss
So the smiley, gauging, warm Mandani that dude left on election night, it was this bitter, angry attack mode. Why are you bitter and angry? You won.
David Zier
Yeah.
Adam Weiss
It's like somebody wins the World Series or a boxing match, and you're angry. You're happy. You celebrate. You have a hug to the loser. You welcome people in. Cuomo was magnanimous. Cuomo said people in the crowd at Cuomo's concession speech were booing, and he said, stop it. We have to wish him well. Yeah, I wish you well. And that's the way you do it in America. And why are you going after the president? Mandani's going after the President of the United States, the chief legal officer of the United States, and you're going after him hard on election night.
David Zier
I was covering the election from Cuomo headquarters, and I think everybody in the room knew that he didn't have a chance. And I wanted to talk about, you know. And by the way, at Mamdani's victory party, like, as Jimmy, failing Failure, pointed out, Brian Kilmeade, that they were charging money for drinks and they had an expensive menu. So it's okay for those capitalists to make, but not for us to go out and eat in a restaurant.
Adam Weiss
I mean, the socialists couldn't give free drinks away. What kind of party is this?
David Zier
There were no free drinks.
Adam Weiss
When I went to a party 21 years ago, David, it was election night with a friend. He said, let's go to. It was Mark Green against Bloomberg.
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Adam Weiss
Bloomberg was running as a Republican. He said, let's go to the Democrats party. I said, why? I'm a Republican, he says, well the Democrats have better parties and the Democrats going to win because they always win. And Rudy was a fluke. I went to the Democrat Party and I guess who won the Republican Party. And that's the last time we had a Republican mayor 24 years ago in New York.
David Zier
Well, Giuliani won because he took the liberal line from Ray Harding and that's how he won the race even though he was a Republican. But New York City was in such bad shape that it made sense to get behind him. Of course he cleaned up New York City.
Adam Weiss
I feel like when Deakins won and it might have been shenanigans, he might have stolen from Rudy the first time, who knows? But I feel like this is the same type of moment. Maidani wins and if it's four bad years of criminals and mayhem, a Republican swoop in and actually win because I got that mood. I feel like it's almost like Dinkins won again the way he meant that one.
David Zier
Well, you would think so. But Mamdani wants to get rid of the counterterror unit in New York City.
Adam Weiss
That's what I mean.
David Zier
And we all know that 40 years of Islamic terror in New York, going back to Yafarouk mosque in Brooklyn, recruiting for the Taliban in the Mujahideen in Afghanistan. I think that, you know, there's 800,000 plus Muslims in New York City. 78% of the young people came out and voted for Mamdani. I think they are really going to do a lot of damage in New York and he's going to have all these 20 and 30 year olds as aides in, in, in the mayor's office.
Adam Weiss
That's what I mean.
David Zier
So what do you, what do you think?
Adam Weiss
When there was conflict, I remember the Hasidic community with the black community broke out during the Binkins administration. And they're such spineless people because they don't have any hardcore strength. Like Dinkins didn't know what to do.
David Zier
It's part of the reason Giuliani won.
Adam Weiss
Because the Crown Heights and those riots were happening and crime was up and, and this week and liberals, you know, weak and Julie swooped in and he won this and he won the rematch when Giuliani won. I feel like it's the same time and when things go bad and there's crime and Madani won't know what to do. 34 year old, inexperienced and from your.
David Zier
Lips to God's ear, he's going to.
Adam Weiss
Hire DSA people as his commissioners. None of them are going to know what to do. Watch. It's going to. I feel like it's going to be.
David Zier
Sad, but they passed charter revisions in this election in New York City. And on the ballot was motions to to give the mayor more power and strip away the rights of the city council to rezone properties quicker and to expedite building permits for builders and affordable housing. They all passed. And, you know, it's really bad because, you know, Mamdani's gonna go on this blitz to build all this publicly funded affordable housing and all this stuff and all these builders got behind him and big labor and they're gonna make millions of dollars. So why are his millionaires better than Trump's millionaires?
Adam Weiss
Right. As long as he can give it in the pockets of affordable housing billionaires. Right?
Greg Wrightstone
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Adam Weiss
Millionaires, yeah.
David Zier
Give you the last word, Adam, sum this all up for us.
Adam Weiss
You know, it's not unexpected what happened in New York. You know, it is this Democratic town, a huge Democratic town. We don't win. It's very difficult to win. You know, I wanted to give Mandani the benefit of doubt because a lot of scare tax. He was really getting attacked hard. I thought some of it was kind of unjust, unfair, calling them all sorts of names and, you know, using. But I might have been wrong because that election night's victory speech was mean and bitter and I hopefully there's a better call. Somebody comes out and says, madani, you won. You're the mayor elect. Treat people a bit of dignity. And he welcome more people in.
David Zier
I think Trump should invite him to the White House and young DSA members who are being misled and exploited by the communists. They can't buy houses, right. And then pissed.
Adam Weiss
You know, the newer generation, they probably wouldn't even go. These folks, these.
David Zier
Yeah, well, let them say no. At least they can't say that Trump didn't invite them. Adam Weiss, Media Exposed Watch Sunday night.
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6Pm 6pm thanks for joining as always, David.
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Well, with everything going on in the country, we're gonna have a little bit of fun Right now because, you know, all these climate activists are changing course, at least a good portion of them, on the imminent danger of our extermination on the planet. AOC said we only got a couple years left, but apparently that's not true. And Greg Wrightstone is with us. I've had him on for many years on the show. Executive director of the CO2 Coalition and author of A Very Convenient Warming. Welcome to the show.
Greg Wrightstone
Well, good to be back on with you, David. Yeah, there's a lot to go over here as usual.
David Zier
Yeah, it's like everything else, the truth shall set you free or the truth eventually comes out. There's only so much hyperbole that you can take. So tell us what's going on. A lot of people reversing course on, on climate change.
Greg Wrightstone
Yeah, the biggest, biggest name of course was Bill Gates and he came out and he said, you know, I think it's more important that we, that we focus on improving people's lives, moving people out of poverty, providing good lives, good health, good medicine, good health systems for people than it is to spend trillions of dollars. Fine. Well he didn't say a non existent problem, I call it a non existent problem problem, but spending trillions of dollars to try and keep the earth from warming another 10th or so degree of warming from additional CO2. In fact, he said this was just last week and it was a lengthy, I think 17 page memo that he wrote ahead of the council of parties meeting in Brazil, which they have every year. The climate alarmists all get together and wet the bed together at the same time, these climate bedwetters. But what he said was, you know, if you asked me would I sacrifice a tenth of a degree of warming or eradicate malaria, he said, well, I'll take malaria eradication over a tenth of the degree of warming. And it's common sense. I think he's got his heart in the right place. He doesn't do things exactly as what you and I would do. For example, he, he's huge, huge. He's a big proponent of vaccines worldwide, vaccinations from Central America. Everyone needs vaccinated and we need it now. But he does want to have the people's health in mind and that's what he's going to here. One of the big effects of the Bill Gates effect will be he is already pulling his many hundreds of billions or hundreds of millions, maybe billions of dollars that he's used to fund these, these client, the climate industrial complex as we call it, all these groups that are really well Funded because of Bill Gates. He's pulling that funding. People are really worried. They didn't like it. But he's finally, I've been saying, and we. You've had me on many times before. I've been very optimistic over the last several years. Even when it, when it looked very bleak with, during the Biden years, I was very optimistic that, yeah, you've never backed down. The truth will win out. I was confident. We have, I have the facts, the science and the data on my side. He does not. And so it's me and my colleagues at the CO2 Coalition. We've got nearly 200 of the top scientists in the world. We're scientists and we stick with the science. We try and stay out of the politics as much as we can. And we, I, I'm very, very confident that we are correct, that the warming, we're in a warming trend, no doubt for sure. It's been warming for more than 300 years, long before we started adding CO2 to the atmosphere. The first Model T rolled out off the assembly line. It's been warming for 200 years before that. And so the warming that we're seeing most likely predominantly naturally driven. Maybe a little contribution. There is a little contribution from, from CO2 driven warming, but it's a minor component when you look back through, through history and through time. And so you know the truth is going to win out. I don't. We've had discussions with my colleagues. You know, why did Gates do this? I'd like to think that he finally learned what the science was. Maybe he looked at all the predictions that have been made and have, have all not come to pass. These, these horrible catastrophic predictions and perhaps I think the boy that cried wolf cried wolf often. And now they're, they're still going ballistic. Just last week we have this new report saying the first climate tipping point was just reached. Yeah, it's coral. Coral. 80% of the coral reefs around the world are either dead or dying. That's categorically and easily. It's categorically false. It's easily disproven. He pointed, they pointed to the Great Barrier Reef reef. We, in 2024, they started doing surveys of the Great Barrier Reef for coral cover. 2024 had the record high level of coral cover in, just, in last year, in 2024. And they're trying to claim that it's dead and dying. It's not. And what they do, what they don't understand, they're saying it's getting too hot for the corals well, the greatest coral reef and biodiversity of corals and marine fishes is north of the Great Barrier Reef in the Coral triangle. And it's 3 degrees centigrade warmer there than at the Great Barrier Reef. And we know that every degree of warming equates to about a 25% increase in calcification or coral growth. So the warmer it is, the faster they grow. I mean, corals like it hot and the hotter the better. And it should just. We just wouldn't point to one false claim after another. Yeah, they're claiming we've got a limit to 1 1/2 degrees Celsius warming or it's, you know. You know what's going to happen.
David Zier
Well, even if the US disappeared off the face of the Earth, it would only affect like one tenth of one degree by 2100 or something like that if all our industry disappeared, you know, so others have joined and followed suit. The Breakthrough Institute. Tell us about some others that have moved away from.
Greg Wrightstone
Ted Nord has Breakthrough Institute. He called himself a climate activist and was. And he came out almost the same day as Gates, it might have been the day before, and said basically the same thing, but more strenuously that, you know, he's been wrong about climate crisis, he's been wrong about all these things. They're not going to happen. And he's walking it back. Even Kathy Hochul in New York, as governor of New York, has walked back her attempts to regulate the planet's temperature. She says the people of New York can't afford it.
David Zier
Well, we need natural gas and should we need to frack.
Greg Wrightstone
Yes. Yeah. And I know a little bit about that. I co authored the first paper on the Marcellus Shale. And so we may not be aware. New York, there's only Broome county, which is right up against Pennsylvania. It's got great potential, but that's about it. It's a very small area of New York that has good potential for fracking.
David Zier
Yeah.
Greg Wrightstone
Now bear in mind the people of Broome county would. You've got people there that could be multimillionaires if it was allowed. You know, they're probably needing to mortgage the farm because they can't frack and they can't get the money that could be coming from, from development of the Marcellus Shale that's underneath their properties. And another big thing that happened a week and a half ago. Chairman of the CO2 Coalition is Dr. William Happer of Princeton, emeritus professor of Princeton of physics. He and Richard Lindsin of mit, another emeritus professor at MIT of physics were on the Joe Rogan show and there's been some 5 million, we estimate, viewers of their 2 hour and 20 minute interview with Joe Rogan. And so they provided the much needed information to nearly 5 million people that had never heard this before. And it's, we're trying to get that information out. And when the dam breaks, by the dam, I mean, we've been effectively silenced. Me, we being skeptic scientists, they're telling the truth about climate change. They've effectively silenced us, haven't they? And I think the dam's breaking now. People are being open to our, our facts. It's not that our facts, you know, facts are facts. You can't have your set of facts and then somebody else has their set of fact facts. Is, is warming good? Yes. And if you say it's bad, you're wrong. And I can tell you why. And it's because history tells us that the warming trends are hugely beneficial.
David Zier
Yeah. And I was listening to Elon Musk, you know, saying that we're not going to reach any dangerous levels of particulates in the atmosphere from industry for at least another hundred years. And so there was somewhere. And what's up with that? We have two minutes left. I'll give you the last word.
Greg Wrightstone
Yeah, no, El, he doesn't know what the heck he's talking about. He needs to shut up about climate and things like that. Our particulates have nothing. Are particulate in the atmosphere cleaner? That's been probably since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution. Elon, he's conflated. He doesn't know what he's talking about.
David Zier
Okay.
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David Zier
Yeah.
Greg Wrightstone
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David Zier
So you see a lot of these storms hitting the cities and stuff, but there's more development, right? There's more impervious surface around. So flooding's going to happen, right? We have one minute.
Greg Wrightstone
Yeah, well, the storms aren't hitting cities more often. They get more reporting of them. Landfall and hurricanes in the United States, we have good records going back to 1850. They're slightly in decline, not increasing. And the good news is since Donald Trump renamed the Gulf of America, there has not been one land falling hurricane hit the United States. How about that? Yeah, that's an important point right there. And you can take that to the bank. That's a fact.
David Zier
Well, so much going on. I always appreciate your insight. I want to thank you for coming on. I want to discuss this further and we'll have you back. All right, Greg.
Greg Wrightstone
All right, Dave, thank you.
David Zier
All right. And the planet will still be here when we have you again. So that's good news. Thank you so much. And we'll talk soon.
Greg Wrightstone
Thank you.
David Zier
All right, everybody, thank you for joining us. Thank you for watching Breaking Point. I I think that the Democratic socialists of America are definitely on the rise, but the Trump economy is going to kick in pretty soon because if interest rates come down another 50 or 100 basis points too, people will be able to stop borrowing money to build new stuff to refinance their business. That's been the problem for five years. It's been terrible. So I think things are going to get better in this country and things are going to start to drop in price. More people have opportunity. It'll probably quite quiet the DSA movement down for a while. I'm David Zier. Thank you for watching Breaking Point on Real America's Voice News.
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Podcast: Real America's Voice
Host: David Zier
Episode Original Air Date: November 8, 2025
This episode of "Breaking Point" dives into the aftermath of a particularly eventful election week, exploring the rise of Democratic Socialists in New York City, the ongoing debates around January 6th, and a new wave of skepticism toward climate change orthodoxy. Host David Zier features in-depth interviews with retired Navy Lieutenant Commander Thomas E. Caldwell about his new book recounting the January 6th prosecutions, youth activists and their support for socialist politics in New York, New York Young Republicans president Stefano Forte, longtime media figure Adam Weiss, and climate scientist Greg Wrightstone. The episode stresses the generational and ideological divides shaping American politics and spotlights voices challenging mainstream narratives.
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Zier closes by expressing optimism that with lowering interest rates and potential economic improvements, the political momentum of the Democratic Socialists may subside, offering hope for a more stable and opportunity-rich America.
“I think that the Democratic socialists of America are definitely on the rise, but the Trump economy is going to kick in pretty soon… I think things are going to get better in this country and things are going to start to drop in price. More people have opportunity.” — David Zier [64:22]