Breaking Point with David Zere - October 18, 2025

Summary

Breaking Point with David Zier – Episode Summary (October 18, 2025)

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Episode Overview

In this episode of Breaking Point on Real America’s Voice, host David Zier delivers an in-depth look at the intersection of American politics, culture, and current events through candid conversations with a range of guests. The highlights include a passionate discussion about law enforcement and farming in Kentucky with Congressional candidate Dennis Jackson, a critique of Hollywood’s influence on culture and the rise of value-driven entertainment with We The Studios co-founder Carol Parto, expert analysis of the Israel-Hamas ceasefire deal from threat analyst Ken Abramowitz, and a breakdown of economic headwinds and misconceptions about national debt with RealClearMarkets editor John Tamney.

Throughout, the tone is direct and critical, with Zier and his guests voicing strong opinions on policy failures, cultural trends, and threats to American values.

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Key Segments & Insights

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1. Interview with Dennis Jackson (KY-4 Congressional Candidate)

[02:04–10:53]

Background

• Retired Army and Coast Guard combat veteran, former police officer, now running for Congress in Kentucky’s 4th District against Thomas Massie.
• Lifelong commitment to faith (“Primary in my life is Jesus Christ. He runs my life first and foremost in everything I do.” [02:18]) and family.

Why Enter Politics?

• Motivated by rising crime in cities like Louisville (“Just like every blue city across America that I've been to, the crime is always three times the rest of the state.” [03:05]).
• Aims to address Kentucky’s law enforcement challenges: 300 officer shortage, with recruitment struggling to keep up with losses due to poor pay/benefits (Dennis Jackson describes, [03:41]).
• “When your community supports your law enforcement, that's when crime goes down and money goes back into the departments like it should.” [04:51, Dennis Jackson]

State of Kentucky Farming

• Serious risks to the farming sector: Soybeans alone generate $1.4 billion a year, but many farmers are in crisis due to trade challenges (China tariffs), rising insurance, feed, and equipment costs (“The farmers are the one that's carrying that load. It's not the meat packers and it's not the consumer.” [06:18]).
• Personal stake: Jackson owns a small farm and shares experiences of neighbors selling off livestock due to untenable insurance hikes.

On Tariffs and Representation

• Criticizes state leadership for inaction on vital trade negotiations (“We got a governor that's in Europe right now, and no one's, no one's saying anything about this.” [06:52])
• Promises to advocate aggressively for Kentucky farmers in Congress.

Contrast with Thomas Massie

• Frames Massie as obstructionist (“All I see is Epstein, Epstein, Epstein, or he's known as Mr. No in Washington.” [08:15])
• Jackson’s approach: Engagement, problem-solving, and cross-aisle collaboration.

Final Thoughts

• Calls for civic engagement, especially among Christian voters:
  “Some of the worst voters in the nation are Christian voters. We have to get out and vote..." [09:15, Dennis Jackson]
• Shares personal accessibility as a candidate (“I'll answer you at 2 o'clock in the morning and I, I'll shake your hand. If I see you in person, come and talk to me.” [09:54])

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2. The State of Hollywood & Value-Driven Media (with Carol Parto, We The Studios)

[13:17–24:42]

Hollywood’s Cultural Shift

• Carol Parto recounts how Hollywood has prioritized victimhood/diversity over merit:
  “It wasn't art anymore. It became this diversity type talent.” [14:01]
• Left the industry after experiencing workplace discrimination as a “white woman with no pronouns.”

Birth of We The Studios

• Founded as a reaction to Hollywood’s culture; aims to produce reality TV and feature films with “real values.”

Programming Highlights

• Raising Reynolds: A Kentucky family raising four biracial foster children with traditional values and limited technology.
• Mr. Miami and Me: Showcasing a single father juggling career and parenthood.

“They hate traditional American values...”

• Parto argues Hollywood intentionally undermines traditional families and masculinity:
  “I think they hate us and they hate traditional American values and they'll do whatever they can to destroy it.” [15:35]
• On industry hostility:
  “We've been called fascists, we've been called, you know, you name it… if they're coming after us, that means we're actually onto something and we welcome it.” [20:06]

Effect on Children

• Shares personal anecdote of how her own children picked up negative attitudes from major streaming platforms, leading to the founding ethos of We The Studios.
  “We had our kids back within a week. It was almost like they went through this decompression moment.” [21:29]

Business Model

• Self-funded, based in Orlando, expanding with the help of a new partner.
• Priced at $3.99/month, aiming for accessibility and reinvestment in content.

Where to Find

• wetheStudios.com and all major platforms.
  “We the Studios is a love letter to our country, which is why it's named We the Studios.” [23:08, Carol Parto]

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3. Israel-Hamas War Analysis – With Ken Abramowitz (Threat Analyst, Author)

[28:37–35:17]

Ceasefire Deal & Its Pitfalls

• Describes skepticism over phase one of Israel/Hamas ceasefire:
  “When we people in the west…sign deals with people from the Middle east, we think we're held by that contract. But the bad guys don't think they're held by the contract.” [29:07, Ken Abramowitz]
• Only the release of 20 live hostages fulfilled—deceased hostages are being “slow walked” to obstruct phase two (disarmament and Arab peacekeeping deployment).

Destruction of Tunnels

• Estimates about half the tunnel network is destroyed. Compares its scale to London/New York subways.
• Expresses little trust in non-Israeli actors for future enforcement:
  “The only one I trust is the Israel Defense Forces. I mean, I trust America, but America's not going to send its young men ... looking for tunnels in Gaza.” [31:19]

Geopolitical Ambitions

• Details on regional players:
  • Egypt, Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, UAE: All have designs on Gaza post-war (“They all signed on for different reasons...because they want to take over Gaza.” [32:49])
  • Only trust is with UAE (Emirates) and some with Saudi Arabia.

Trump's Role

• Suggests other leaders trust Trump to chair phase two. Predicts Israel may have to finish dealing with Hamas militarily if current plans falter.

Quote

• “Finally there is a genocide in Gaza, but Hamas is leading the genocide, just as they did on October 7th against Israel.” [29:07, Ken Abramowitz]

Where to Read More

• savethewest.com | Author of “Multi Front War”

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4. The U.S. Economy, Gold, and Government Debt – With John Tamney (Editor, RealClearMarkets)

[40:14–50:51]

Gold and the Dollar

• Soaring gold prices reflect declining global trust in the dollar, not intrinsic gold value:
  “Gold doesn't so much go up as the value of the dollar in which it's measured goes down.” [40:37, John Tamney]
• Historical parallels: Gold spikes preceded economic stagnation (1970s, 2000s).

Building and Borrowing in Today’s Economy

• Construction and business borrowing hampered by higher costs, weak dollar, stubborn market interest rates.
• Expresses skepticism that Fed rate cuts alone will revive growth if market confidence and currency stability are lacking:
  “Interest rates are set in the marketplace, and that's what we want.... The market's going to speak no matter what.” [44:40]

Tax Policy and Economic Growth

• Controversial take: Reduce taxes on the rich to catalyze entrepreneurship and investment.
• Rebukes left-leaning and supply-side approaches:
  “The rich drive all growth...all they can do with money not taken from them by government is invest it. Investment is what drives economic growth.” [46:07]
• Calls for a “massive reduction in what we take from the rich.”

Government Debt: Debunking the Panic

• Argues government borrowing capacity is a sign of market trust in America’s future wealth (“Government is no different [from a business] precisely because the U.S. treasury has taxable access to the most productive people on Earth…” [47:35])

Price Inflation and Currency Devaluation

• “The natural direction of prices in a capitalist society is for them to go down,” referencing electronics.
  But fiat currency debasement has eroded true value:
  • “Money is seven times less valuable” since the 1970s (Zier using the “pizza index” – [49:08]).

Where to Find John Tamney

• realclearmarkets.com, X/Twitter, books on Amazon (“Deficit Delusion”)

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Memorable Quotes

• Dennis Jackson: “We have to be proactive as Republicans and some of the worst voters in the nation are Christian voters. We have to get out and vote.” [09:15]
• Carol Parto: “They hate traditional American values and they'll do whatever they can to destroy it.” [15:35]
• David Zier: “Even if it's like well made and a good movie and a funny script, they always got to get their digs in, right? ... It's like satanic. It's crazy.” [15:27]
• Ken Abramowitz: “Finally there is a genocide in Gaza, but Hamas is leading the genocide, just as they did on October 7th against Israel.” [29:07]
• John Tamney: “Gold doesn't so much go up as the value of the dollar in which it's measured goes down. And so to me, this is a dangerous signal...” [40:37]

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Episode Flow & Tone

• Tone: Unfiltered, critical of mainstream narratives, passionate about faith, tradition, and American values.
• Structure: Fast-paced transitions between hard-hitting interviews. Commentary is frank, unapologetic, and often personal.
• Audience: Listeners attuned to cultural and political shifts, with skepticism toward Washington and Hollywood elites.

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For Listeners

This episode provides impassioned perspectives on law enforcement, agriculture, media culture, international affairs, and economic policy—rooted in the belief that American tradition, faith, and market innovation are under threat, but also immense assets in times of crisis. It’s both a call to action and a critique of established power structures, well-suited for listeners seeking outsider analysis and spirited debate.

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Note: All times are approximate based on transcript cues.

Transcript

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[David Zier]

Hi, I'm David Zier. You're watching Breaking Point on Real America's Voice News. Really historic week with the deal in Israel. Let's see if that can hold together. Hamas killing Palestinians in the street in Gaza right now. A lot of, of complicated things going on out there. But I got a super show today. And by the way, it was Charlie Kirk's birthday, a moving ceremony at the White House the other day. You know, my son turned 32 on the same day as Charlie Kirk's birthday, sharing his birthday and his birth year. Really, really, very, very sad. And you know, it's just a terrible situation and people are so callous about it. I get in conversations all over the place and people are, you know, they're like, oh, well, he had really strong opinions and whatever, like he deserved it. And they just couldn't deal with it because he was, you know, blowing their doors off in the civil dialogue and the discussion. But I got, listen, I have a great guest with us right now. He's running for the 4th congressional district and a primary against Thomas Massie next year. He's a retired U.S. army and Coast Guard veteran. Retired. Dennis Jackson, welcome to the show.

[Dennis Jackson]

Thank you, sir.

[David Zier]

Hi, Dennis. Man, you had a really funny video. I couldn't pull it up for the show, but you had an AI video. Very funny. So tell us a little bit about your background.

[Dennis Jackson]

I'm retired Army. I'm a retired combat vet. Primary in my life is Jesus Christ. He runs my life first and foremost in everything I do. I have a 35 year marriage to my beautiful wife. We met on active duty in the coast guard in 1991 and it's my life is great. I love my life. I am a former police officer, also a former federal police officer. Before I retired and after 9 11, I went back into the army to go to Iraq and I've been retired since. Right now I work for, I'm a manager for Global and sq and we are a contractor through Toyota here, which is the largest North American Automotive plant here in Georgetown, Kentucky.

[David Zier]

So, okay, that's really, that's really great. It's really wonderful. So why the hell you want to get into politics? It's vicious. It's vicious. There's going to be a real contentious primary in Kentucky next year. It appears that way thus far. So many issues, right? Kentucky. I was in Louisville with real America's voice on the ground. I couldn't believe the crime. Just like every blue city across America that I've been to, the crime is always three times the rest of the state. Same for Louisville.

[Carol Parto]

Right.

[David Zier]

I know that's not your district, but it's important because you're law enforcement.

[Dennis Jackson]

Yes, sir. One of the things that they're fighting right now, the police department, I would have to say, is there are 300 officers short right now in that department. They have over a little over a thousand. Not quite 1100 yet, but they're at 300. 300 officer shortage. But they also lose officers to go to other departments that have better benefits, better pay, better incentives. And that really hurts a department when you start losing seasoned officers. It's going to take, they said that it takes about 150 recruits a year just to get up to that 300. So now you're looking at, you're looking at two years. But then from there, I mean, how much farther is it going to be with you losing those officers too? I mean, that you can't replace now veteran.

[David Zier]

Is it systemic? Is it the bail reform type agenda? What is it? Why can't they do it?

[Dennis Jackson]

One of the reasons why, I think, is money and the incentives there. There's, there's not there. Why work that load that you're doing as a police officer when you can go to a smaller town and be safer? I mean, these cops all have families.

[David Zier]

Sounds like.

[Dennis Jackson]

Yes, sir. Yes, sir. It's a never ending battle really. But I think when your community supports your law enforcement, that's when crime goes down and money goes back into the departments like it should. And I'm talking officers on the street. I'm not talking non essential personnel.

[David Zier]

Yeah, no, I get it. Tell us about your farmers. You know, soybean farmers facing some challenges. But a lot of farmers around the country aren't just soybean farmers. They grow other crops. We're waiting for this China thing to play out. Tell us us about how large the farming community is in Kentucky.

[Dennis Jackson]

In Kentucky, Soybeans alone is $1.4 billion a year for just soybeans in Kentucky alone. And then you're talking about Our beef industry here, our beef industry, we're a little bit, I mean, we're a little bit down on that as far as, like, I think we're right around 14th in the nation on beef, but we're losing beef farmers across the US Every day, it seems like. I had a farmer come to me yesterday, he did nothing but soybeans. And he's, he said if it doesn't pick up with this thing with China and stuff, he's going to lose his farm next year. There's. And he's just one across the state that I met yesterday, and it was just one person out of 20.

[David Zier]

Wow. So what about. Yeah, yeah, it's, it's terrible. I know the farmers always have it tough. The rugged individualists built this.

[Dennis Jackson]

And the rise of, the rise of seed in, the rise of fertilizer and equipment. The farmers are the one that's carrying that load. It's not the meat packers and it's not the consumer. It's the farmers that's putting that money right back into it. And their prices are going up. They're not seeing anything out of it now.

[David Zier]

And the diamond phosphate and fertilizers doubled and tripled during the Biden years. Yes. And you got all the legacy costs.

[Dennis Jackson]

Right.

[David Zier]

You're coming to the near end of the farming season. You still got to carry farm through the winter.

[Ken Abramowitz]

Right.

[David Zier]

And if you didn't do that extra soybean farming or whatever else you had to do, that could hurt, right?

[Dennis Jackson]

Yes, sir. Yes, sir. And, and I don't mean to gripe, but, you know, we've got a governor now, though, with the soybean thing going on. We got a governor that's in Europe right now, and no one's, no one's saying anything about this. You know, we want Trump to, to meet with China and if no one's going to step up to meet with China, I'll do it. I'll go with his envoy to do it. I'll represent Kentucky. But it just seems like no one's taking that mantle when they know that the farmer. This is a major thing for Kentucky.

[David Zier]

Is the tariff money going to go to help the farmers?

[Dennis Jackson]

I'm hoping. I'm really hoping, but that's something that we need to fight for and we need to make sure. And with me in Congress, this is something that I'm taking this fight head on.

[David Zier]

Why are you.

[Dennis Jackson]

I have a small farm.

[David Zier]

I'm sorry, you have a farm, you said?

[Dennis Jackson]

Yes, sir, I do. I have a small farm. It's 25 acres. But my neighbor's got 400 acres that surrounds me. And my costs keep going up. And the money that I make every year, we put it right back into it. I have a friend that's down the road. They just sold all their cows and they can't get. They're not going to get any more new cows. Number one, the insurance company's raising all their rates on this. And so every time you buy a new cow or a goat or a chicken, they want to raise your rate.

[David Zier]

Yeah. Sounds like the insurance companies are at the heart of a lot of our problems.

[Dennis Jackson]

Yes, sir.

[David Zier]

Homeowners insurance and the likes. Why are you better than Thomas Massie?

[Dennis Jackson]

Because I'm going to fight for this. All I see is Epstein, Epstein, Epstein, you know, or he's known as Mr. No in Washington. You know, my thing is, if. If it's a no, then I want to know why it's a no. What can we do to make this better or make it a yes? Not just put no on everything we need. I need my constituents to tell me what they want me to do and not just no. If you want me to make it a yes, what do we need to go and do? This is why I need to go to the speaker of the House and do. And work across the aisles as a combat vet. I'm going to tell you, I was nothing but a fighter.

[David Zier]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I want to thank you, you know, for your service, for sure. You know, the Republicans could pick up as many as 13 districts through redistricting alone next year, but Dems is still favored to flip it. You know, what do you think is going to happen? I'll give you the final word. We have about a minute and a half.

[Dennis Jackson]

Honestly, I think we'll take it, but we have to get out. We have to be proactive as Republicans and some of the worst voters in the nation are Christian voters. We have to get out and vote. You have to. Things that are affecting your families and everything. You have to call your congressman. You have to beat the door. You have to tell them what's going on or there has to be a change. And that's. I'm. That change that needs to happen.

[David Zier]

Yeah. Tell us where our viewers can follow you and see what you're up to. And you gotta, you know, you gotta put up that AI video more. That was great.

[Dennis Jackson]

You can find [e-mail] just follow me. I'm on X. I'm on Facebook. I'm on getter. I'm on a lot of different platforms. Just follow me. You can find my phone number on there, you can find my texts, email me. I answer people all the time. And it's just the fact that I'll answer you at 2 o' clock in the morning and I, I'll shake your hand. If I see you in person, come and talk to me. I'm wide open and I'll tell you what I think in my love for Kentucky in this nation, I can't say enough. You know, I love my flag, I love my country, and I still cry when the national anthem is played.

[David Zier]

Well, it sounds like you really care. I want to appreciate, I want to thank you for coming on. Really appreciate your time. Dennis Jackson, running in the primary for the 4th congressional district in Kentucky. And we'll have you back. So many issues. I'd like to talk more about the farmers. So thank you for coming on.

[Dennis Jackson]

Definitely, definitely. Thank you, sir. You have a great week.

[David Zier]

Yes, you too, Dennis. So, everybody, you know, there's a lot of contested races, there's a lot of lawsuits, redistricting. I am really diving into these congressional races around the country. So in the next few shows, I'll be bringing you some updates on what the chances are of the House staying red. I'm David Zier. I want to thank you for watching Breaking Point. And now we want to give you a message from Birch Gold. Thanks for joining us. As countries have walked away in the past few years from the US Dollar, Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, diversify into gold, into Birch Gold. And for over 5,000 years, gold has withstood inflation, geopolitical turmoil and stock market crashes. And the great news is you can still get it. In fact, you can own gold and silver in a tax sheltered retirement account. Birch Gold makes it easy to convert your IRA or 401k into an IRA and precious metals. And all you got to do is text the word America. The 989898 to claim your free info kit on gold. With 20 years experience converting IRAs and 401Ks into precious metal IRAs, Birch Gold can help you protect yourself with gold today by texting the word America to 98. 9898 with an A plus rating. With the Better Business Bureau, thousands of happy customers and countless 5 star reviews secure your future with gold. Start today with a free info kit. Again, there's no obligation. Check it out. Make the request. Just text the word America to 98-98-98. We'll be back with more Breaking Point right after this.

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[David Zier]

Hey everybody. Are you tired of turning on your streaming networks that you pay all this money to? And every movie is just a woke piece of garbage. Even if it's like well made and a good movie and a funny script, they always got to get their digs in, right? It's always some crazy scenario debauchery, you know, kids, kids in 8th grade doing horrendous things and just terrible, you know. And I want to discuss that with our next guest, Carol Parto. Welcome to the show.

[Carol Parto]

Thank you for having me. And supporting we the Studios.

[David Zier]

Yes. So you are the co founder of we the Studios. The streaming revolution rooted in real values. Tell us about it.

[Carol Parto]

So it's real simple. I worked in Hollywood for 17 years and increasingly year by year, day by day, the talent went from being the most talented person in the room to the biggest victim, the biggest challenge or the biggest sob story. And it was, we were, we just, it wasn't art anymore. It became this diversity type talent. So I stepped away from the business for a few years, had a few more kids, four in total. And when I wanted to go back to work, I was notified that it will be very difficult for a white woman to work in Hollywood with no pronouns. And jokingly I told my agent, well, what am I going to do? He said start, start a streaming platform. And so that's exactly what we did at we the Studios. We started our own platform, reality tv. But we are focusing on TV in a value driven way, if you can imagine that.

[David Zier]

Well, I've seen you guys, you've been everywhere. So I wish you the best of luck. And you know, I'm so tired of it. You know, I want to talk on two levels. One is an adult watching movies. I like a good comedy, Fast Times at Ridgemont High. Yeah, there's adult humor, but it's rated R. You know what you're getting into now, Everything is not rated R. And even if it is, if it's Our. It's just sick in the head. And they always got to get like one or two, like really graphic, raunchy, disgusting scenes in there. What's the driving factor of that in Hollywood? Is it that they're just. It's.

[Ken Abramowitz]

Is it. Is it.

[David Zier]

It's like satanic. It's crazy. Tell us about Hollywood. All the time you spent out there, tell us about your experience.

[Carol Parto]

Well, it definitely brought me closer to my faith because I somehow I met my husband and lived a really, really great life out there. But in doing that, I think they just really ha. They hate the traditional nuclear family. They don't masculine men. They do not want women to be wives and mothers and businesswomen all at the same time. They've told women for years, choose, be a professional or be a mom, but you can't be both. And I'm living proof. Proof that's a complete lie. So short answer of it is I think they hate us and they hate traditional American values and they'll do whatever they can to destroy it.

[David Zier]

Yeah, it makes sense. I cover a lot of the other studios that have emerged in the last several years that aren't hostage to Hollywood production and money. But I'm really glad to see this now you're a streaming platform. You have shows and movies. Tell us about what you have in programming.

[Carol Parto]

So we currently, for this year, as well as 26, we will have exclusive reality television. The reason for that is it's the fastest way to market and that's really the only thing we can't control is time. Time is not our friend and entertainment. So the fastest way to market to make sure that we have a robust platform with tons and tons of content and is reality tv. And we will. We'll focus on feature films and rom coms eventually.

[David Zier]

Tell us about raising Reynolds. It's one of your shows, right?

[Carol Parto]

Oh, my gosh, it's so fun. Blake Reynolds, he's a great family man in Kentucky, small town Kentucky, raising four biracial children from foster care. And so I love this story because it's kind of reverse engineer, you know, the pro life story, right? You just think about these beautiful kids and what his life and his wife's life would be without them, right? So thank goodness their mother chose life. And, you know, unfortunately, they were in foster care for a period of time. But the Reynolds scooped up these beautiful kids and they. They're raising them right. They're raising them without technology. They're raising them with values and the dad's involved in their life. Something Hollywood does They just don't show that anymore. They don't show the strong father involved with the kids. And so we highlight all of those things. I like to say we highlight people at their best. All of us have a side, right? Our best side, our worst side, our good days, our bad days. And so we highlight all of our families and at their very best, on their best days, telling their inspiring stories.

[David Zier]

Wow. So tell us about, you know, things have moved away from Hollywood to like New Mexico and Atlanta, Toronto, Vancouver because of production cost. Tell us about how do you, how do you guys raise your money and where, where, where are your production facilities?

[Carol Parto]

So we are based in Orlando, Florida and unfortunately, all of those tax credits that you're speaking of, they don't apply to us in reality television. We are self funded. We do have a partner that just came on, but for the last two years my husband and I have been funding this thing together and we just brought on a partner that's funding this with us shoulder to shoulder. And that's really going to allow us to scale and triple and quadruple all of our production teams and all of our series. So that's super exciting. And really where we go, we go where the talent is. So we have a series in Kentucky, we have a series in Miami, we have a series Arizona. We go where the talent is. With reality tv, you find the talent and we pack up and we go there.

[David Zier]

Tell us about the one in Miami. What's that called?

[Carol Parto]

Oh my gosh, it's so fun. Mr. Miami and me. And it's on a single dad raising a girl, a little girl by himself. And so, you know, we reckon while we love traditional American values, it's not, it's not like that. Not everybody has a mom and a dad. And so we felt it was important to tell the story of a divorced dad being a great girl dad and that, you know, he could be a role model maybe to dads that could potentially be struggling. How am I going to be a girl dad and do her hair and all of these things? The cool thing about it is he's also top injector in the country. And so he's managing fatherhood, this thriving business that he's currently scaling in Miami. He lives in a department, so it's, it's all of the things. It's family, it's Miami, it's girl dad life. It's, it's a really, really fun show.

[David Zier]

So tell us, would you do a show about a New York man, a father of four grandf for fighting the Communists behind enemy lines.

[Carol Parto]

Yeah. Personality. Yeah, absolutely.

[David Zier]

Okay, so tell us about any opposition. Critics are critics reviewing what you're putting out. Have you faced any opposition or any challenges?

[Carol Parto]

Well, I guess we're starting to hit the wrong side of social media because the trolls have found us. We've been called fascists, we've been called, you know, you name it. And at first I was a little upset. And now, now we're saying, you know, what if they're coming after us, that means we're actually onto something and we welcome it. I mean, first amendment all the way. You want to call me what you want to call me, that doesn't mean it's true. And so we're here, we're here to stay. And I guess we could be called worst thing, right?

[David Zier]

Well, I'm usually reserved, like in the movies. I love movies. I think the 70s had the best movie. The French Connection, Rocky, Jaws, all those. But you know, I saw one battle after another. I lasted 30 minutes with DiCaprio and it was such a left wing piece of garbage, portraying all the ice and border agents as white men, military men, racists. Meanwhile, 60% of the border patrol that I've interacted with are women and Hispanics. And you know, the whole thing was just a lie. And I walked out in 30 minutes and I had to say something. I was like, this is Hollywood garbage. And I walked out and somebody called me a Nazi in the audience. And, you know, I couldn't take it anymore. I am so tired of going to the movies and being subjected to this. This has got to have like changing the architecture in a young people's brains. That's what I'm getting at, right? How do they don't even have a chance out of the gate.

[Carol Parto]

We started noticing that when I first became a stay at home mom for a little while we noticed our kids. You know, we have values, we go to church, we teach them. Right. They were hunching over and they were talking back and they were being disrespectful to us. And I finally found myself in front of the TV with them one day and I was like, this is it. They're emulating the characters on a major streaming platform, Live action series. And so we promptly canceled that streaming platform. This was really the foundation for we the studios. It kind of festered in my brain for about 10 years. And our kid, we had our kids back within week. It was almost like they went through this decompression moment. And so I measure that against 10 years later. I'm bigger my kids are bigger. TV is worse. Entertainment is horrible. And we're seeing pentagrams in the background. We're seeing pride flags in the background. And, you know, oh, that was an everything. I worked in Hollywood. It's completely by design. And they are their favorite. They want to normalize this behavior and make it comfortable for our kids. And we're fighting back against that. I mean, that's really our.

[David Zier]

At studios, if you turn on like Peacock, all these reality shows are so awful. And our kids are watching this. You know, they're watching all this stuff. The parents have it in the house and the dating shows. I mean, and not only are the people really stupid and uninformed in the. In the shows, but they. They have no center of gravity there. There. It. It's just, you know, the content is. Is beyond. It's very frustrating. I'm sorry. I'm venting to you because I'm so sick of it. All right, tell us about your next year. We have about a minute and a half left. I'll give you the floor. Tell us about what you got going on.

[Carol Parto]

Well, let's announce it here. First one of our latest series. It's in a can. We haven't announced it yet. We haven't dropped any trailers, but we will be. So maybe we'll coordinate that a little bit better. But we are actually doing a series on myself and my husband called Axo, Curtis and Kara. We the Studios is a love letter to our country, which is why it's named we the Studios. And so that will be dropping soon. You're going to see behind. Behind the screens, behind the cameras of my life with my husband and what is taking out of us and taking us to build this network. And you can find all of our work at we the studios.com Apple App Store, Google Play Store, Roku, Fire Stick, all the places.

[David Zier]

Yeah. And I've seen that, you know. You know, the Sound of Freedom for me really broke the mold for Hollywood, right, where you can actually make a really good movie and have good, you know, movie and television, you know. You know, out there, you don't have to be, you know, with Paramount Pictures or whatever else. So I'm really happy that you guys are able to launch this. Where can viewers find it, Find you, follow you on socials?

[Carol Parto]

So all socials. We are we the Studios. X Instagram, Facebook. The best place to check us out is we the studios dot com. That's where you'll create an account. It's $3.99 a month. It was super important to us that we have a very low entry level for our subscribers. And we the studios.com $3.99 a month more subscribers. We're continually reinvesting into the company and into the content. So as we grow our roster and our series will grow.

[David Zier]

All right. Cara Caroly, part of everybody, co founder of we the Studios. I really appreciate you coming on and I'm going to go order it. So thank you.

[Maria Lynn]

Thank you.

[David Zier]

All right. Everybody will be right back with more. I got great stuff. Ken Abramowicz to break down the whole thing going on in Middle east still threats out there. Don't go anywhere.

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[David Zier]

Welcome back. You are watching Breaking Point. Unreal America's Voice news. You know, you can't turn your head for a minute because there's so much going on, especially out of the White House. This shutdown is really crippling a lot of really good people. And this is all for show trying to get through to this. You know, no kings protest today, maybe further. And I was on a call with Speaker Johnson and Steve Scalise last week with a few other media members. And you know, they were describing how this began. And for the audience who, you know, maybe hasn't been following it that closely, the big beautiful bill took like six months to put together and they were behind on the appropriations stuff in Congress. And the Republicans were only asking until like November 21st to get this all together. And you know, these CRs the Democrats have voted for in the past, this is all a setup. This is all crazy. And by the way, I was watching Mamdani, who's probably going to be the next mayor of New York, talk about this incredible Killer. There's an animal in New York City who stabbed somebody, who got out a few hours later and then stabbed somebody again. I think maybe the next day, if not the same day. And they asked him, you know, what, what he would do about it because, you know, he really doesn't believe in the police. And his answer was so heinous, oh, we're gonna have like these intervention programs for mental health and all this gobbledygook instead of like sending the guy to like on an ice barge, you know, in the Arctic Circle or something. You know, this guy should have never been out on the streets of New York. And thousands of families have suffered and 61,000 New Yorkers have been assaulted in the streets in New York so far this year. Between felony misdemeanor assaults, rape is up 19% in New York City. And this guy's only gonna compound it because he's going to double down. And I'm just waiting for the next mural he's going to paint in front of Trump Tower when he's the mayor. Don't trust Zoran Mamdani. That's all I got to say. But I want to bring on our next guest, Ken Abramowitz. He's a threat analyst and author of the Multi Front War. Ken, I always appreciate your insight. Thank you for joining us.

[Ken Abramowitz]

Pleasure to be with you as always.

[David Zier]

Yes, you know, you really got a handle on things. You always have. And you know, you're one of my favorites out there for really putting, assessing what's going on out there in the world. Can you talk about the deal, phase one that was put into effect the other day? And then two days later, Hamas is shooting Palestinians in the street in Gaza. What's going on?

[Ken Abramowitz]

Well, everything that's going on is predictable. When we people in the west, like America, Israel, sign deals with people from the Middle east, we think we're held by that contract. But the bad guys don't think they're held by the contract. So as soon the only thing that they delivered was the 20 healthy, not healthy, but let's say the 20 living hostages. Now Israel and America are begging for the 28 deceased hostages that they were supposed to deliver. Now they're slow walking them and they're purposely slow walking them because they don't want to go to phase two. In phase two, they're supposed to be disarmed and leave deported. Well, they have no intentions of being disarmed and they have no intentions of being deported. So now they're showing their typical colors, they're killing any opposition they have in Gaza. So finally there is a genocide in Gaza, but Hamas is leading the genocide, just as they did on October 7th against Israel.

[David Zier]

Yeah, and if they would have gave the hostages back two years ago, Israel never would have went into Gaza. So, you know, I want to talk about the tunnel systems because they have not been destroyed by the Israeli forces the way they wanted to.

[Ken Abramowitz]

Right. Well, I hear different numbers, but let's say that Israel destroyed half of the tunnel system. And I'm told that the tunnel system is similar to the London subway or perhaps even the New York subway. So we're talking about huge tunnel systems here. And let's say Israel destroyed half of it, so someone has to destroy the other half, you would think. And that was also left vague as to who had the responsibility for destroying the tunnels. Yeah, it's supposed to be some international peacekeeping organization. No one's ever met an international peacekeeping.

[David Zier]

Organization with Turkish troops on the ground.

[Ken Abramowitz]

Well, it's with all of the above. It could be Egypt, could be Turkey, Qatari, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, could be the Emirates. The only one I trust is the Israel Defense Forces. I mean, I trust America, but America's not going to send its young men, 19 year old kids from Kansas, looking for tunnels in Gaza. So to me, the logical one to fix the mess is Israel. But in this deal, it's all the Arab countries are supposed to fix the mess.

[David Zier]

You think this ever could have happened without the Abraham Accords under the first Trump administration?

[Ken Abramowitz]

Well, the Abraham Accords helps facilitate this because Israel has some trust for the Emirates, has no trust for Qatar, has no trust for Turkey, even though Israel has relations with Turkey and has some trust for Saudi Arabia, has almost no trust for Egypt. So yeah, so the Abraham Accords facility, that in the sense that it made Israel feel comfortable with at least some of the parties to this deal.

[David Zier]

What about Turkey's ambitions in the theater? Also going all the way to Iran and you know, dealing with Salafis and other groups. What's Turkey's end game? They want to restore the caliphate. What's going on?

[Ken Abramowitz]

Well, everyone has nefarious instincts and desires. So the reason why all the Muslim countries signed on to the deal is they all signed on for different reasons. Egypt signed on because they want to take over Gaza. Turkey signed on because they want to take over Gaza. Qatar signed on because they want to take over Gaza. Saudi Arabia and the Emirates signed on because they want to take over Gaza. Meanwhile, by the way, 900 Israeli soldiers died to take over Gaza. 1200 were killed. With the Hamas genocide on October 7th and the deal says they just give it to these Arab countries for free. So I'm not very happy about the second part of the deal, except the fact that President Trump says I'm in charge of phase two. So I'm like the chairman of the board and I'll make sure that phase two works out.

[David Zier]

Yeah.

[Ken Abramowitz]

So basically everyone trusted Trump even though they don't trust each other.

[David Zier]

Yeah, I know, I get that. And I'm sure that he'll be watching that closely. And if anybody pulls anything and if there's a large scale attack of any kind, I'm sure all bets are off. Right, Ken?

[Ken Abramowitz]

Well, my guess, given what President Trump said today, that I'm serious, I'm not joking, I'm putting words in this mouth. I'm not joking around. I want Hamas the Gaza demilitarized. I want Hamas to lay down their weapons. Well, someone's got to enforce that. And I don't see American soldiers boots on the ground enforcing it. But Israel knows how to do it. And I hope and guess that in about two to four weeks President Trump will run out of patience with Hamas and authorize Israel to clean up Hamas. All right, well, eliminate this death cult once and for all.

[David Zier]

Ken, we have about 20 seconds. Where can people follow you?

[Ken Abramowitz]

Savethewest.com is my website. I write an article every two weeks. It's complimentary. All they have to do is sign up on the pop up menu and they can buy my book, the Multi Front War through Amazon and stay in touch with me.

[David Zier]

All right, Ken, always great to see you. I appreciate all your incredible insights. Thank you.

[Ken Abramowitz]

Pleasure to be with you. Anytime.

[David Zier]

Okay, Ken, everybody, I want to bring you a message from Switch to usa and we come back. I have John Tamney, the editor for Real Clear Markets. We're going to talk about the economy. Be right back. I'm so excited to have Maria from switch2usa.com with us. Switch the number2usa.com. She's been a longtime supporter of the show and we're so grateful. Maria, how are you?

[Maria Lynn]

I'm well, thank you for having me, David. And I'm very excited to be here and let everyone know what's been going on.

[Dennis Jackson]

Yeah.

[David Zier]

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[Carol Parto]

Right.

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[David Zier]

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[David Zier]

Welcome back to Breaking Point. I'm David Zier. I will be Breaking down congressional races across the country. I've got a pretty good handle on what's going on out there. The different lawsuits out there, you know, litigation, judges intervening, redistricting, Utah, Illinois, Wisconsin, situation in Florida, all over the place. Oregon, you name it. And it looks like the Democrats are ahead right now. It's really early, though. A lot can change, but the Republicans have a chance to pick up like 13 seats. But, you know, right now it's leaning the other way, so they gotta get cracking very quickly. I wanna bring on our next guest. He's the editor of RealClear Markets and the author of the Deficit Delusion, why Everything Left, Right and supply side tells you about the national debt is Wrong. John Tamney, welcome to the show.

[John Tamney]

Hey, David, thanks for having me on.

[David Zier]

Yes, I'm really looking forward to talking to you about what's going on here. So many topics. I want to start with the markets. Gold at like almost $4,200 the other day, you know, oil dropping, but the Dow, it's pretty high. What's your forecast for what's going on here?

[John Tamney]

The gold part scares me. Let's never forget that gold is a known, it's known as wealth the world over. And so when you buy it, you're not discovering anything new. It's already there. Gold doesn't so much go up as the value of the dollar in which it's measured goes down. And so to me, this is a dangerous signal that signals less investment flowing into new ideas, into stocks and bonds representing the creation of future wealth, and instead people essentially protecting their wealth in a coffee can, a coffee can that goes up in value if the value of the dollar declines. And so to the extent that I know people close to President Trump or near the administration, I always tell them no president has ever succeeded in the way he should with a declining dollar. It saps the very investment that drives economic growth.

[David Zier]

Right. But people are buying gold because they, they feel safer to be, you know, prepared. Right. And it could go up, it could go up to 4,500, 5,000. Right. It could keep going up.

[John Tamney]

It could. But what a dangerous signal because if you buy gold again, you're, you're just buying protection, wealth protection. If you buy stocks, if you invest in someone you are creating, you are buying shares in the creation of new wealth. And so if you look throughout the, you know, we, until 1971, the dollar was def, in terms of a fixed amount of gold. And so this was never a problem. But gold skyrocketed in the 1970s. It's no surprise. That was a slow growth, a decade for economic growth. It skyrocketed in the 2000s and similarly, we had a huge decline in IPOs and stock market vitality. This is a dangerous, this is a dangerous direction to be going when confidence in the dollar is declining. That's bad not just for the US but it's bad for the world because the dollar is the world's currency.

[David Zier]

Yeah, well, I think people a diversified portfolio too, but I understand what you're saying here. Fed's printing money, right? You know, tell us what's going on out there in the marketplace. I'm a builder from New York, commercial broker for 38 years. You know, I see a lot of people struggling in business, subcontractors. Building costs are up 30%, 40%. Tariffs are temporarily hurting a lot of guys in building. But I think that'll adjust at some point. What's your outlook?

[John Tamney]

Well, you bring up a crucial point about this and about the importance of a strong, stable dollar. What goes into the creation of a building is remarkable. You know this much better than I do. But one of the books I wrote featured the people who build tall buildings and the enormous amount of global know how and global inputs that go into it. Well, so for devaluing the dollar, we're raising the cost of all sorts of global inputs that go into the creation of a building. And so it makes all of this more expensive. It raises the cost. And so I can't say I'm totally surprised by what you're reporting. If we had a stronger and more certain $, it strikes me that the cost of building the future would be quite a bit lower.

[David Zier]

Now, borrowing money at 6 and 7% for our business doesn't work if they drop another hundred basis points, you know, within a few months by the spring. I don't think that's enough personally. But if they do, do you think that and all the manufacturing that Trump has going on, people recommitting back to America, other companies expanding, do you think between the manufacturing, say boom, the energy type boom in all categories, do you think that's going to help? I think the economy's going to take off next spring. What do you think?

[Carol Parto]

Think?

[John Tamney]

Well, I think is what about the US Economy is that it's always growing? All we know in the US is progress. Even the 1930s, if you look back to it, was a very productive decade. For any other country, it would have been viewed as a boom. America is populated by the most innovative, ambitious and enterprising people on earth. And you're going to get a lot of growth there. Where I'm skeptical that the Fed fiddling around with rates is going to change anything is ultimately, interest rates are set in the marketplace, and that's what we want. If central planning worked, we'd go back to the 20th century, but we know it was an abject failure. And so it wouldn't surprise me if the Fed continued to reduce rates, but actual market rates stayed high, stayed where they are, or went higher to reflect uncertainty, including uncertainty about the dollar. You just can't trample on the message of the market. The market's going to spe no matter what.

[David Zier]

Right, so. So there's three schools, basically, right? The left claims you tax people more, which I don't think is the answer, because, you know, the top 10% pay like 90% of the taxes as it is. And people on the right, you know, want spending cuts, increased tax revenue to the Treasury. And then there's the supply siders. Right? Tell us, you know what, what's the ultimate combination of any of those to make the economy?

[John Tamney]

I think you hit on the most crucial point that I think left and right miss. Including supply siders. The rich drive all growth, and as you point out, they pay the mass. Vast majority. They account for the vast majority of federal revenues. If you give me a tax cut, I'm not a rich man. And so if you give me a tax cut, I, I want it, but I've got bills to pay. If you give Jeff Bezos a tax cut, or Steven Schwarzman or Donald Trump a tax cut, they've already got all the houses they want, they've got the planes. All they can do with money not taken from them by government is invested. Investment is what drives economic growth. And I wish the Republicans would for once stick to this message. The media say about them every time, no matter what, that they're cutting taxes for the rich, even when they're not. So how about a massive reduction in what we take from the rich? Because that's the surest way to drive growth, simply because the rich will invest it in ways that the typical American will not and also cannot.

[David Zier]

Right. So what do you mean when you say that government debt is a logical and perilous effect of market optimism when it comes to, like, raising tax revenues and the expectation of exponentially more tax revenue coming? And what does that all mean?

[John Tamney]

To be clear, that's not me saying that I like government debt. I think government spending is the biggest tax of all. But think about you at your age now, relative to what what, when you were 21? Can you borrow more now or when you were 21? I. You don't have to answer, because I know you can borrow more now because you've got decades worth of income. You've got wealth that you probably didn't have when you're 21. That's true for individuals, that's true for businesses. 25 years ago, Nvidia couldn't borrow a dollar. Today it can borrow billions of dollars. Why? Because the markets trust its future revenues that they're going to go up, up, up, up. Government is no different precisely because the U.S. treasury has taxable access to the most productive people on Earth, the richest, most enterprising people on Earth. It can borrow in enormous amounts, and it can, because government revenues go up and then they keep going up. And so I'm making the case in the deficit delusion that if we really want to reduce the debt, we must reduce the taxation of the rich so substantially that what they pay to the government goes down substantially and revenues decline. Only then will people say, hey, wait a second. The US means what it says, it does not. It wants to reduce taxes on the rich. So the US Is no longer a good loan like it used to be. Now it's a great loan. Jeff Bezos is overtaxed. So is Elon Musk. So is Donald Trump. Go down the list.

[David Zier]

I don't think that our money, you know, keeps up, you know, with inflation. You know, I use the pizza index as a Laffer curve. Then there's the Dave's Ear Pizza index. You know, when I was a kid, it was 50 cents for a slice of pizza. Now it's 3.75. You know, so does that mean since 1975, that money, money is seven times less valuable?

[John Tamney]

Yes, but it probably hides how much less valuable money is. Let's never forget what is capitalism or the profit motive, but the process whereby we produce more and more goods and services at lower and lower prices. The first laser printer costs 17,000. Now you can get one for $100. The first flat screen TV cost 25,000. Now you can get it for $200. And so the natural direction of prices in a capitalist society is for them to go down. Yeah, but imagine if the dollar were still 1/35 of a gold ounce as it was in the 1970s. Think how much cheaper everything would be. And think how much more advanced we would be.

[Ken Abramowitz]

Yeah.

[David Zier]

John, we're out of time. I really would like to expand this conversation in the future. I want to thank you for joining us here. John Tamney, everybody. Author of Deficit Dilution Delusion. Where can people buy your book? We have 30 seconds and follow you.

[John Tamney]

Oh, Amazon. Amazon. Buy several copies for all your friends. And then you can find me at Twitter. You can also find me at Real Clear Markets. I publish at least one column a day and so I'm very active, put out books. But I would love to hear from the people and would love to come back.

[David Zier]

I read the Real Clear Spectrum every day. So I really appreciate you coming on. And we'll have you back.

[John Tamney]

Thank you so much.

[David Zier]

Thank you, John, everybody. I'm David Zier. You're watching Breaking Point. Thank you for joining our show. So many exciting things coming up. Don't go anywhere. Stay tuned. Next week, 8am Real America's Voice News.

[Dennis Jackson]

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[David Zier]

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[John Tamney]

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