Breaking Point with David Zere - October 25, 2025

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Breaking Point with David Zier – October 25, 2025

Podcast: Real America’s Voice
Host: David Zier (iHeartPodcasts)
Air Date: October 25, 2025
Featured Guests:

• Nils Grevillius (Private Investigator)
• Alina Bonsell (NYC Council Candidate)
• Jonathan Tobin (JNS News, Newsweek, Federalist)
• Jordan Conradson (Gateway Pundit, White House Correspondent)
• Maria Lynn (Switch2USA)

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Overview

This episode covers a wide array of pressing issues in American politics and culture through the lens of conservatism and American values. Host David Zier leads a fast-paced discussion on the fentanyl crisis, NYC city politics, the ongoing Israel-Gaza conflict, border and immigration policies, and media transparency. The show is structured around interviews with topical experts and policy insiders, offering in-depth perspective and activism appeals to listeners.

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Key Segments & Insights

[00:28] Opening & Capitol Hill Reflections

• David Zier recounts his recent experiences in D.C.. He attended MAHA pack events with RFK Jr. and Dr. Robert Malone, noting the high engagement of young conservatives and their involvement in wellness businesses and new ventures.
• Zier draws a comparison between Hillary Clinton’s alleged White House furnishing incident and Donald Trump’s renovation decisions, framing it as media hypocrisy around use of funds for presidential spaces.

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[02:17] Fentanyl Crisis Among Seniors (Guest: Nils Grevillius)

Main Theme: Surging Fentanyl Overdoses Among Seniors

Key Points

• Nils Grevillius exposes a 9,000% rise in fentanyl overdose deaths among senior citizens, attributing much of this to caregivers who are drug users.
  • "A lot of the people who are charged with the duty of caring for our seniors are drug users...the caregiver uses the fentanyl patches themselves...and doses the senior with street drugs." – Nils Grevillius [03:03]
• The problem is not isolated to Los Angeles; social media and word of mouth help spread these dangerous practices nationwide.
  • Quote: "One of the addicts...showed me how she and her girlfriend were scraping their arms with sandpaper...and applying [used fentanyl patches] to the abraded area." – Nils Grevillius [04:03]
• Discussion about the war on drugs, the rise of synthetic cocktails like carfentanil, and skepticism toward harm-reduction medications (ex: Suboxone).
• With stricter border control, the street supply is reduced but still prominent. Cartels prefer fentanyl over heroin due to ease of smuggling, greater potency, and profit margin.
• Grevillius advocates for a tough short-term jail detox as a behavioral intervention:
  • "You put him away for three weeks and make him detox in jail...the pain...is so profound...that he will be driven to his knees and potentially willing to change." – Nils Grevillius [08:46]
• Notable quote on addiction:
  • "The difference between an alcoholic and a junkie is: an alcoholic will steal your money and get drunk. A junkie will steal your money...and help you look for it." – Nils Grevillius [04:50]

Segment Close

• Grevillius plugs his Twitter (@etectivenils) and upcoming book, The Last Lawman (June 2026). [10:16]

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[14:17] NYC Politics & Council Elections (Guest: Alina Bonsell)

Main Theme: Stakes and Strategies in the New York City Council Races

Key Points

• Zier and Bonsell discuss the chaos of the NYC mayor’s race and the overwhelming imbalance in City Council composition (only six out of 51 seats Republican).
• Quote: "City Council actually holds the keys to the castle. Without 26 people to say yes, no mayor can move forward any single piece of proposed legislation." – Alina Bonsell [15:39]
• Emphasis on the critical nature of council races for determining the city’s future policies, balancing ideologies, and breaking leftist dominance.
• Bonsell describes her district as winnable for Republicans, citing a large registered GOP base and higher turnout prospects.
• Concerns: Incumbent fundraising power ($1.2M+), claims of donation funneling for political favors, and the manipulative effects of ranked-choice voting:
  • "Ranked choice voting is so screwed up. It's a terrible situation." – David Zier [20:46]
• Bonsell, an immigrant from the former Soviet Union, positions herself as a first-hand witness to socialism’s failures and vows to defend traditional American and Jewish values.
• Public safety, police funding, and reforming responses to both crime and urban quality of life are mutual priorities for Bonsell and Curtis Sliwa.
• Notable critique of silence: Bonsell calls out her opponent’s lack of public stance against anti-Semitic rhetoric and failure to defend the Jewish community. [23:53]
• Final thought: "Regardless of who wins, the impact will be felt...voters have to ask whose leadership gives me the best chance of things moving forward and improving my quality of life." – Alina Bonsell [25:22]

Contact

• Instagram: alina.b.nyc | Website: alinabonsell.com [25:02]

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[28:18] Israel-Gaza War & U.S. Policy (Guest: Jonathan Tobin)

Main Theme: U.S., Israel, and the Hamas Deal – Realities vs. Rhetoric

Key Points

• Tobin asserts Hamas is violating agreements and that claims of meaningful compliance are "fantasy":
  • "They have no intention of surrendering their arms...the notion...that the disarming of Hamas will be done by the multinational force...that's a fantasy. It's not happening." – Jonathan Tobin [31:00]
• Contacts in White House and Trump administration (Kushner, Witkoff, Vance) are portrayed as naïve if they trust Arab or Turkish intermediaries to enforce peace or disarmament.
• While securing hostage release is a genuine success, Tobin warns that unless Israel is empowered to eliminate Hamas, the group will simply rebuild and continue its campaign.
• Qatar is described as a duplicitous U.S. "ally" actually aligned with the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas, funding hostile propaganda and institutions:
  • "We treat them like they're friends. They're enemies." – Jonathan Tobin [35:24]
• On Trump: "He believes the right things about this...But Hamas is counting on the U.S. being satisfied with a perceived triumph, and not letting Israel finish the job." – Jonathan Tobin [34:29]
• Tobin suggests the peace will not last if the U.S. prevents Israel from neutralizing Hamas.
• Memorable moment:
  • "We're in the truth-telling business, not in the happiness business." – Jonathan Tobin [37:09]

Contact

• JNS.org | Twitter/X: @Jonathan_S_Tobin [36:58]

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[42:27] Border Security, Immigration Enforcement, and Media Access (Guest: Jordan Conradson)

Main Theme: Trump’s Border Strategy, ICE Effectiveness, & Reporting Barriers

Key Points

• Conradson details a White House roundtable where President Trump highlights strong border enforcement:
  • "Over 150,000 pounds of narcotics, over 2 million fentanyl pills seized, over 3,000 cartel and terrorist members removed." – Jordan Conradson [43:30]
• Trump’s executive order and DHS strategies are praised for reversing Biden-era failures.
• Critique: The scale of deportations (2 million, mostly self-deportations) is seen as not enough compared to the 10 million+ estimated illegal entries under Biden:
  • "Unless we're seeing 2.5 million plus illegals removed per year, we're not even going to get close to the ...low-ball number, 10 million that Joe Biden let in." – Jordan Conradson [46:22]
• Mainstream media is called out for distorted narratives and limited willingness to challenge border policy from the “right” (i.e. being critical about too few deportations).
• New media (Real America’s Voice, Gateway Pundit, Rumble) praised for bypassing legacy media blocks.
  • "The truth is actually being told...I don’t hear that anywhere else." – David Zier [47:30]
• Pentagon press pool shakeup: main outlets walked out over new rules stopping solicitation of classified info, but Conradson defends rules as common sense.
• Urban crime manipulation: DAs downgrade offenses in cities like D.C., Chicago, and NYC to inflate crime reduction stats and shield illegal immigrants from ICE.
• Notable quote:
  • "They're actually demoting these crimes...to make it look like, oh, this is not as violent of a city that we're seeing." – Jordan Conradson [51:17]

Contact

• thegatewaypundit.com | X/Instagram: @JordanConradson [52:41]
• Show: "DC Dive" on Rumble

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[37:53] American Manufacturing Spotlight (Guest: Maria Lynn, Switch2USA)

Main Theme: Promoting U.S.-Made Products & Economic Patriotism

Key Points

• Switch2USA is a wellness and essentials manufacturer/membership club focused on keeping American dollars with American workers.
  • "This is a mission where we can defund Blackrock and the pyramid scheme...and build America." – Maria Lynn [38:10]
• Emphasizes the MAGA—now “MAHA”—mission and direct-to-consumer solutions.

Contact

• Website: switch2usa.com

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “The difference between an alcoholic and a junkie is: an alcoholic will steal your money and get drunk. A junkie will steal your money, go get loaded on street dope, and then help you look for your stolen money.”

  • Nils Grevillius [04:50]

• “City Council actually holds the keys to the castle. Without 26 people to say yes, no mayor can move forward any single piece of proposed legislation.”

  • Alina Bonsell [15:39]

• “We treat [Qatar] like they're friends. They're enemies.”

  • Jonathan Tobin [35:24]

• "Unless we're seeing 2.5 million plus illegals removed per year, we're not even going to get close to the ...low-ball number, 10 million that Joe Biden let in."

  • Jordan Conradson [46:22]

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Key Timestamps

• 00:28 – David Zier on D.C. visit and Capitol Hill events
• 02:17-10:42 – Interview with Nils Grevillius on fentanyl crisis
• 14:17-25:51 – Alina Bonsell on NYC politics and council race
• 28:18-37:12 – Jonathan Tobin on Israel-Gaza, U.S. policy, and Middle East geopolitics
• 42:27-53:01 – Jordan Conradson on border security, ICE strategy, and Pentagon press pool
• 37:53 & 38:09 – Maria Lynn on economic patriotism and Switch2USA

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Final Thoughts

David Zier concludes the episode by reiterating the importance of honest, independent news and encouraging listeners to stay vigilant heading into critical election cycles. The tone is urgent, activist, and deeply skeptical of mainstream and Democratic narratives, blending hard news, opinion, and activism calls throughout.

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For further insights or to connect with the guests:

• Nils Grevillius: @etectivenils, The Last Lawman (June 2026)
• Alina Bonsell: alinabonsell.com, @alina.b.nyc
• Jonathan Tobin: JNS.org, @Jonathan_S_Tobin
• Jordan Conradson: thegatewaypundit.com, @JordanConradson, “DC Dive” on Rumble
• Maria Lynn: switch2usa.com

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Transcript

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In just one wash when impossible odors get stuck in. Hey, everybody. Welcome to Breaking Point. I'm David Zier. Had an exciting week. I was on the ground in D.C. it was inside Capitol Hill checking it out. It was sparse, but I had a great day there. I attended the Maha pack with RFK Jr. And Dr. Robert Malone. I went to a book signing for Senator Eric Schmidt, the former Missouri Attorney General. He wrote a book called the Last Line of Defense, how to Beat the Left in Court. It was quite a night. RFK Jr just a rock star. So many people coming out. And I was really impressed by the young people that came out to the MAHA pack. They're very influential pack, but, you know, a lot of wellness companies, a lot of people starting their own businesses. But these young people in D.C. on the MAGA side, on the MAHA side, they're very special, very talented, I gotta say. And by the way, Hillary Clinton, you know, was taking the silverware and the furniture about $28,000 or White House furnishings. So I don't think she's anybody to criticize Donald Trump for using private donations to build the new ballroom and the East Room. If anyone's ever been in there, it's very small. It only holds about 150, 200 people. I think it's a great thing that he's doing. And a lot of nine presidents did major construction on the White House. But I want to get to our first guest here. I'm very honored to have with us Nils Grevilleus. He's a Los Angeles based private detective who conducts investigations, investigations without regard to borders. Has the ability to deliver facts quickly. I want to welcome you, Nils. How are you, sir?

[Nils Grevillius]

I'm trans. Fantastic. David, how are you, sir?

[David Zier]

I'm great. I'm great. Every day is an adventure. So much going on in the country. I want to get into a big issue. Right, you're exposing fentanyl overdose deaths that are surging among our senior citizens. Is that correct?

[Nils Grevillius]

That's correct. We have a 9,000% increase.

[David Zier]

Since when?

[Nils Grevillius]

Just over the last few years. And I have a pretty good idea what's going on.

[David Zier]

What do you think's happening?

[Nils Grevillius]

Well, I think a lot of the people who are charged with the duty of caring for our seniors are drug users. And they take the legitimate narcotics that have been prescribed by physicians for the. For the elders, and they use those in lieu of the fatal, potentially fatal fentanyl, and then they dose the seniors with the fentanyl. So it's a form of addict risk management. I've had three cases of this occur in the last year where someone is caring for an elder senior citizen who's under palliative or hospice care by a physician and being prescribed fentanyl patches. And so the caregiver uses the fentanyl patches himself or in two cases, herself, and doses the senior with street drugs so that they're not complaining about their pain, but they're exposing them to a potentially fatal overdose.

[David Zier]

So is this isolated to Los Angeles? Do you think this is a nationwide problem?

[Nils Grevillius]

Well, you have to understand that addicts communicate with each other through social media like anybody else. One of the addicts that I identified in my last investigation showed me how she and her girlfriend were scraping their arms with sandpaper to abrade their arm and fishing used fentanyl patches out of the dumpster and applying them to the abraded area of their arm to get the quick brush of whatever residual narcotic is there. Narcotics addicts are hard for civilians to understand. Let me provide something for you here, David. The difference between an alcoholic and a junkie is an alcoholic will steal your money and go get drunk. David, a junkie will steal your money, go get loaded on street dope, and then come home to you and help you look for your stolen money.

[David Zier]

That's terrible. So, okay, you know, the heroin epidemic, the fentanyl crisis nationwide has been a problem. So I spent a lot of time in New Hampshire. I talk about this a lot on the show. I interviewed the director of overdose prevention during the 2024 election up in New Hampshire for Manchester, 108,000 people in the city, 8% of the population, overdoses every year. And not just the heroin, but it's synthetic cocktails involving fentanyl and others trump closing the border and the reduced flow of fentanyl. Can't you equivocate that into thousands, many thousands of lives being saved? Or are they just getting around it and there's more drugs available? Because I hear this new stuff on the street.

[Nils Grevillius]

Well, there's less. There's less street dope available. You need to understand that almost everything that's sold as heroin in this country now is either partly or fully fentanyl. There's a new version of fentanyl or actually an old version of fentanyl which is being sold called carfentanil, which was designed to anesthetize horses, livestock, that sort of thing. And it's more powerful than standard fentanyl. And standard fentanyl is plenty powerful. Don't kid yourself, David. There's another bad drug situation afoot here that, that ties directly into the narcotics use though, and it is harm reduction meds. There are a lot of health care providers and insurance companies that swear by harm reduction meds like Suboxone. And I have a very leery opinion of this. Yeah, it keeps the addict addicted longer and the longer that they are still using, their life is endangered. I have a very good friend who lost his oldest son, son to a fentanyl overdose while he was being treated with Suboxone in a treatment facility. Wow.

[David Zier]

Yeah. Do you have any hope that anything coming out of the White House is going to help save lives in this regard?

[Nils Grevillius]

Oh, yes. Reducing the availability of street dope is absolutely vital in this, David. And I already see the numbers going down in Los Angeles county ticking down slowly. There's still a smuggling problem and the cartels have a real advantage with fentanyl. They've almost completely given up on heroin now. And I'll illustrate it for you like this. In order to make a cartel worthy profit on heroin, they would have to bring in an amount, say equal to a steamer truck. In order to derive the same profit. All they have to do is bring in a coffee cup size amount of fentanyl, which is much easier to conceal. They don't have the risk management issues with fentanyl in Mexico of running, say, an opium field like in Sinaloa and requiring agricultural workers to harvest the opium to be refined into heroin. This is all chemical work in a laboratory. Men and women in Tyvek suits with respirators. Because fentanyl is so deadly, it's so easy to die of a fatal overdose. I think some of them even dose themselves with Narcan before they go to work to avoid a fatal overdose.

[David Zier]

Wow.

[Nils Grevillius]

It's a real bad situation. President Trump has only been at it here for what, nine months now? Him and Cash Patel, Pam Bondi, Dan Bongino.

[David Zier]

Yeah. And they've had major drug bust.

[Nils Grevillius]

Yeah, yeah, there's, there's much more to be done. And for the street level addict, the George Bush style of war on drugs was a war on addicts. And you don't, you don't change anybody that way. You don't change human behavior that way. The way that you change human behavior is with the short term incarceration. You catch a man with a user's amount of fentanyl, let's say a small foil pouch. You put him away for three weeks and make him detox in jail without meds and then kick him loose. You do that to a man enough times, the pain of the. Of the physical detoxification from the narcotics is so profound and psychic that he will be driven to his knees and potentially willing to change.

[David Zier]

Wow.

[Nils Grevillius]

Everybody else, if you go to a narcotics.

[David Zier]

Yeah, go on.

[Nils Grevillius]

Narcotics Anonymous meeting tonight and you will meet men and women. I've done it. Who will tell you that they're 6 years clean, 10 years clean, 20 years clean, completely abstinent. And what they say, always, David, is if one more person was nice to me, I'd be dead.

[David Zier]

Wow. Nils, we're out of time. Listen, you're a legendary private investigator. You investigated the Wonderland murders. You've been all over. I want to have a segment with you in the future just about that. In 30 seconds, tell our viewers where they can follow you and follow your private detection agency.

[Nils Grevillius]

Well, I'm on Twitter etectivenils. David, I have my professional memoir entitled the Last Lawman coming out in June of 2026. Everywhere Fine Books are sold. I will look forward to being on with your audience again and I salute you.

[David Zier]

Thank you for your service to the Nils Grevillius. Thank you. So our audience learned a lot today and I look forward to having you back.

[Nils Grevillius]

My sincere pleasure, sir.

[David Zier]

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[Alina Bonsell]

I'm doing well. Yeah, it was. It was quite a show. You know, it was really, really entertaining. I mean, I really found myself laughing really hard when Sleeva was saying the Architect and the Apprentice, the whole.

[David Zier]

Yeah. The second debate, you know, people say Cuomo won. I wanted to ask you a couple of questions here, and I want to start by being brutally honest. Right. What's the difference between the New York City Council as it stands with only six Republicans out of, like, 50 SE, and Mamdani's policies or Cuomo's?

[Alina Bonsell]

So that is a great question. And I was really, actually happy to see them both reference City Council in a lot of their answers, because City Council actually holds the keys to the castle. Without 26 people to say yes, no single piece of proposed legislation from any mayor can be moved forward. And as you just mentioned, right now we have six seats that are Republican. Every seat is up for reelection. So this election is not just a mayoral election because City Council has as much or more power collectively and whoever we elect to represent us in our districts this election are the people that will be there for four years, and they will either make or break what is happening to our quality of life, our city, our affordability. It's not just a mayoral election.

[Jonathan Tobin]

Right.

[David Zier]

But I think they're to the left of Cuomo, maybe left of Mamdani. I don't know if that's possible. What's the best outcome for you? Because I love Curtis. I've talked to him for about three decades. He's the heart and soul of the city. I don't know if there's a path there. So what do you want to see? What can happen here? What would be the best case scenario?

[Alina Bonsell]

So Curtis has done an amazing, amazing campaign. He has worked so hard. He has more energy than me. He's everywhere. And it's just a shame to see how things really kind of turned, you know, turning at this point. Right. Where a lot of people feel that even though they want Curtis to win, they feel that because of the gap, they have to now vote for Como that they might not like as much. Right. So now it's sort of in economics. How do I redistribute my vote to make it count not for the right candidate. I think that's so unfair. And at the end of the day we are just guessing it's hypothesis. We don't know the polls if they're severely accurate or inaccurate. All we could do really right now is to hedge our bets. And to hedge our bets is look at who we're re electing for City Council. We don't want, as you said, the very leftist liberal, they're all running for reelection. Every seat is up for reelection. We need to put more independents and more Republicans to balance the city hall. And that is our only fighting chance right now.

[David Zier]

And your seat, who's, who's in there now and is it something where you're going to flip it to an hour?

[Alina Bonsell]

Yes, because my seat was the last seat in Manhattan to have had a Republican council member. We have the highest amount of registered Republicans. And because of the dynamic of what's happening right now, there are voter turnout is going to be high. There is going to be more people voting Republican. But what's also really important to note that my opponent is a 20 year seasoned politician. She has received incredible amount of donations, around 1.2 million collectively for this campaign cycle. And she also is receiving donations that she now funnels to the very left liberal city council members that are running for reelection because she is buying them to vote for her to be the speaker of the House.

[David Zier]

So okay, with Cuomo in there and Curtis in there, even if Curtis dropped out, he, his name still stays on the ballot, right? So you have former governor George Pataki, who was a pretty decent governor Republican for New York. Rudy Giuliani was the greatest mayor ever in New York City endorsing Sliwa? If he, even if he drops out, don't you think there's going to be a big percentage of people who are going to vote on the Curtis Leewa line anyway? And Cuomo can't win.

[Alina Bonsell]

And not just on that line, they're still going to vote for Adams even though he dropped out. Some might still vote for Jim Walden who dropped out. There's also Joseph Hernandez most people haven't heard of, but his name is there as well. The thing is, not everybody follows politics. Not everybody will know that somebody dropped out. And also other people just will say, hey, I still like this guy. I don't care, I don't like the other one. I'll just vote for this one anyway. So it is unpredictable. And even if Curtis were to drop out, it is so neck and neck that you, if the other candidates are on the Ballot. I don't see how the math is going to math.

[David Zier]

And if Curtis stayed in, somebody would have to get about 35%. Is that what's going on here?

[Alina Bonsell]

If Curtis stated the. Well, it depends on the rank voting. Yes.

[Jonathan Tobin]

Well, people.

[David Zier]

Yeah.

[Alina Bonsell]

I don't know what this rank voting. It was actually a question that they asked at the debate. Who would you rank vote first? You know, you don't have to rank vote, but if you wanted your vote to count twice, I guess. Right. I. I don't know. I don't understand it. I don't think why we should have it at all.

[David Zier]

That's a great point. Because the ranked choice voting is so screwed up. It's really a terrible situation there. Tell us about what you think is going to happen. And if you get into the New York City Council, what are you going to do to stop Memdani's policies? See, I don't think there's a lot of daylight between Cuomo and Mamdani. I think they're kind of cut from the same cloth. Outside of Mamdani's radical jihad type thing, global intifada, I won't denounce it, but other than that, what do you think?

[Alina Bonsell]

I think Curtis is doing this for the right reasons, just like I'm doing this for the right reasons. I'm not a career politician. My family came from the former Soviet Union when I was a child, one of very few candidates that lived through socialism. It was under a communist country, but it operated as such. And we escaped to America. We came here as legal Jewish refugees in 1989. I was a very small child. So I would be a strong voice in City hall against any such policies because I could speak firsthand of why they will not work and why they are a threat to our society, our Jewish community. My other number one platform is public safety. I do support what Curtis wants to do. We're on the same page in taking them mentally ill, homeless, off our streets, putting them into state hospitals that we used to have years ago. It'll create safety on our streets and subways, reduce the burden on our police. We need to fund our police. We need more officers. We need morale to be raised. So these are all such important things that I'm aligned with what Curtis has said during his presentation. In addition to that, e Bikes.

[Jonathan Tobin]

Right.

[Alina Bonsell]

And it was really funny because Zorin said, you know, I, you know, stuff like that should be pushed through City Hall. It's sitting in City hall, we shouldn't find the guys driving the bikes. We should find Doordash and Uber. And it's interesting enough that this, this is sitting frozen in City Hall. It hasn't been pushed through because my opponent, along with other council members received over $3 million in campaign contributions. And they don't believe they want to penalize these companies because in making these companies obtain insurance, providing safety gears and other safety measures, it would cost these companies a fortune and give them a lot of responsibility and accountability. Right. When things go awry and they don't want to pass legislation. So that's just proven to say how much power city hall has. And anything would take a very, very long time to go through City hall, if it goes through at all. But if we reelect the same left super majority, they will be on board with Zoran because a good deal of them already endorsed Zorin and the rest of them who haven't endorsed them are staying quiet.

[David Zier]

So it's a terrible situation. It's a terrible situation. Go on, go on.

[Alina Bonsell]

So when, when they stay quiet, the inference is their allegiances are to the party, not to the people by default. Yeah. My opponent is Jewish, right? As a Jewish woman, as a constituent to her or district that is very densely Jewish. And I made press releases and I talk about it all the time. You know, why has she not stood up for the community? Why has she not publicly said, I as a city council member, I'm outraged that he would say something like, you know, that, you know, that he doesn't condemn antifa. Like, why hasn't she not said anything to ensure that the public will have faith that she will govern right. City appropriately?

[David Zier]

Yeah, there's. Because there's no doubt about it. We're running out of time here. I just wanted to say, you know, Mamdani subway safety plan is throw a soda in your attacker's face or say, hey, didn't we go to high school together? And Cuomo let 5,000 people out with bail reform and a lot of people were killed and injured over it. Where can people follow you and get involved? Alina.

[Alina Bonsell]

So my Instagram is alina b.nyc. my website is alina bonsell.com we're hiring canvassers and phone bank people. Actually, I made matching funds and we're, we're doing a really strong campaign. We have a really high opportunity to flip this district.

[David Zier]

20 seconds. I'll give you the last word.

[Alina Bonsell]

So regardless of who wins, the impact will be felt on neighborhoods and transit and public safety. So voters have to ask, you know, whose leadership gives me the best chance of things moving forward. And improving my quality of life. So this includes my school, you know, the, you know, what they put on their kitchen table. So it's not just about campaign speeches. Right? Don't believe everything that you hear in debates, you know, so do your, do your due diligence.

[David Zier]

All right. I really appreciate it. It's going to be a wild week and a half ahead of us. Thank you for joining us and the best of luck with your race and everybody, I want to thank you for watching Breaking Point of Real America's Voice News.

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Hey, welcome back. You're watching Breaking Point. So much going on with Gaza and Israel. The first part of the deal is in effect. Hamas already violated it. So much to discuss here and I always love talking with the editor in chief of JNS News, Newsweek columnist and senior contributor to the Federalist, Jonathan Tobin. Welcome back.

[Jonathan Tobin]

Great to be with you, David. Thank you.

[David Zier]

Always great to see you. I depend on, you know, quality news and the truth about what's going on here. Because you know what I'm watching over the last week with Hamas killing Palestinians in the street, engaging the Israelis again. Are they violating this agreement already?

[Jonathan Tobin]

Well, of course they have. And even more importantly, they are showing no signs of complying with all of President Trump's 20 points. And despite the fact, and you know, the disconnect here is, you know, not just Hamas violating the, violating the agreement, killing the, you know, Palestinians in the streets, you know, silencing all dissent, murdering people, mass murder of Palestinians. And of course, there's crickets from the people who claim to care about the Palestinians. About that. What concerns me most is the disconnect between the very good things that President Trump has been saying about, you know, Hamas has got to disarm. And if they don't disarm, we're going to kill him, which is entirely reasonable. And what his envoys, who did a lot of hard, good work on getting the agreement through, Jared Kushner, his son in law, Steve Witkoff, the envoy, and now Vice President Vance, who's, who's been in Israel this week, they're all talking, not merely, you know, just sort of happy talk about how, yeah, I know it's tough, but it's, it's going to work out, we're going to be able to do it. And they're speaking about Hamas with sort of moral equivalence, as if they're just, you know, Witkoff on 60 Minutes was talking about, you know, they're just guys like us, you know, I can empathize with them. I lost the son, they lost the sun. There's no moral equivalence there. And, you know, they're, they're talking like it's like some old, you know, original Star Trek episode, you know, where, you know, the, the, the Enterprise arrives at a planet and the two unruly, you know, groups of aliens and, you know, the wise, you know, people from Earth are going to figure it all out for them. That's not what's going on here. Yeah, Hamas has no intention of surrendering its arms. They have no intention of ceasing their war to destroy Israel and commit the genocide of the Jewish people. And the notion put forward this week that the disarming of Hamas will be done by the multinational force, the theoretical multinational force, you know, composed of who Qatar, people from Qatar, Turkey, Hamas allies, Egypt, the idea that, you know, people from the Arab or Muslim world or from Europe, you know, America says we're not going to do it, are going to go into Gaza and disarm Hamas, that's a fantasy. It's not happening. And I think what we have to start maybe wrapping our brains around is that the deal was for getting the host, the 20 remaining hostages out. That's good. It gives Israel some freedom of action if the war, when the war restarts, and we just have to take it forgiven, you know, as a given that if Hamas is going to be disarmed, it's not going to be some fantasy multinational force, it's going to be Israel.

[David Zier]

Okay. So, you know, I don't know if I understand the messaging, what's going on, but, you know, Trump doesn't have a high tolerance. And if Hamas continues to remain violent, what I don't understand, you know, I think he'll take action. But what I don't understand is, you know, Qatar, we're training their fighter pilots where they're buying American goods. How come we can't get Qatar and these other countries to put the pressure on Hamas to stop it? Are they still complicit?

[Jonathan Tobin]

I think what Witkoff and Kushner would say if they were hearing this conversation was that, well, we got them. And I might add, it was Israel's attack on Qatar and the Hamas people in Qatar, for which, unfortunately, Netanyahu had to give sort of a partial apology in order to get this deal done. It woke them up and they pressured Hamas to give up the hostages. And that's a real achievement. And, you know, the fighting has stopped for the moment, and Israel is not out of. Completely out of Gaza. They're still in it. But, you know, the truth is to go to finish the deal, which is to say, disarm Hamas, have it, give up control of Gaza, that's going to require, you know, a different attitude that than our envoys, you know, in the Middle east are, you know, articulating, because it's not just bad messaging. They're sounding like the peace processors from the Clinton and Obama administration who just go into the Middle east and have this. Really don't fully understand what they're up against. And that's what that is worrisome, because that's not going to work. And yes, President Trump is saying the right things. I think he believes the right things about this. But Hamas is counting on the United States being so happy about having, you know, this triumph for the President of, you know, getting the hostages freed and being able to say he made peace, that the United States is not going to, you know, sort of do the. Take the next step until the Israelis finish their job. Because nobody else is going to finish that job.

[David Zier]

Yeah.

[Jonathan Tobin]

And if not, then what Trump has accomplished, it's not nothing. He got the hostages out, but it just means there's going to be a rebuilt Hamas. You know, right now, you know, there are drones coming in from Egypt bringing them supplies. All the tunnels aren't destroyed.

[David Zier]

Yeah.

[Jonathan Tobin]

Hamas has every intention of reconstituting their terrorist state and resuming the war as soon as they can. And that is a given. Unless the United States gives Israel the green light to finish the job. Nobody else is.

[David Zier]

Well, I think that the Trump administration is really engaged. Maybe they feel it's a victory to get this far so far. But, you know, you give. You give Hamas an inch, they take a foot, they're never going to stop. You know, J.D. vance was in the church the other day, you know, with. In the church where we think that Jesus was crucified. Right. And he's back in Jerusalem. Trump's incredible visit there. People from all over the world lined up for half an hour to shake his hand, which I thought was interesting. But you can't trust the Turks. You can't trust Erdogan. This could get violent.

[Jonathan Tobin]

These are enemies. We treat them like they're friends. They're enemies.

[David Zier]

So if things unravel, I think Trump will have a low tolerance if it gets violent again from the Hamas side to the point. Point where they're attacking Israel more, I don't know. We have a minute and a half. I'll give you the last word.

[Jonathan Tobin]

Listen, there are two things going on here. I think Hamas, you know, their goal right now is not so much to resume attacks on the Israelis, but is to reconstitute their power in Gaza. That's what they're concentrating on. And if the United States isn't stopping them from doing that, that is a problem. The peace will not last. Also, cutters, you know, Qatar's information operation has been so successful in the United States. They've got this. And the President, too, believing that there are allies. They're our friends. They're good guys. They are not good guys. They are the funders of the Muslim Brotherhood. They are the allies of Hamas. No good will come of this relationship from. From Qatar, you know, with Qatar, and, you know, they're the propaganda machine with Al Jazeera and funding madrasas all over the world, including the United States. We have to keep our eye on them. If the war is going to continue, it will be because Qatar and Hamas wanted, you know, have no intention of changing. And I think we have to be prepared for that. And the president has to be prepared for that.

[David Zier]

So much to digest here. I want to have you back as things progress. Maybe we'll take another look at it in a few weeks. Where can our viewers follow you?

[Jonathan Tobin]

JNS.org Go sign up for our twice daily newsletters or follow me on X at Jonathan S. Underscore Tobin.

[David Zier]

Sometimes the truth hurts, right, Jonathan? Let's see. I'm afraid so.

[Jonathan Tobin]

We're in the truth telling business, not in the happiness business.

[David Zier]

Well, thank you so much and we'll see you next time. All right, everybody, you listen. Trump's intentions are for peace here and I think he's on point. But I don't think you can trust Hamas as far as you can throw him or Cotter. Just my opinion. We'll be back with more. Here's a message from switch to USA. I'm so excited to have Maria from switch2usa.com with us. Switch the number2usa.com she's been a longtime supporter of the show and we're so grateful. Maria, how are you?

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[David Zier]

Welcome back, everybody. You are watching Breaking Point. Unreal America's Voice News. Thank you for joining us this morning. Such an incredible cycle going on. News cycle you can't keep up.

[Nils Grevillius]

Right.

[David Zier]

And I want to wish everybody a happy Halloween in advance and, and hope you spend a great time with your family. I think it's on a Friday this year or Saturday, so my dates are mixed up. But anyway, I want to welcome to the show the Washington correspondent and White House correspondent for the Gateway pundit, Jordan Conradson. Thank you for joining us.

[Jordan Conradson]

Of course. Thank you for having me, David. It's always exciting being here at the White House, especially learning the news that we just did with President Trump.

[David Zier]

Yeah, it's incredible. You can't keep up with the cycle. And I've seen you down there and there's a lot going on here. But I wanted to have you on because I know you were in the president's roundtable today. And our very own Brian Glenn, who's a chief White House correspondent, we're going to catch up with him as well. I wanted to get your comments about the roundtable, but then get in some of the other issues because you're like an investigative reporter. You exposed fraud in Arizona. You've been all over the place. So tell us about today.

[Jordan Conradson]

That's right. And coming from Arizona, I would say I understand the border a little bit more than most people, being one of the worst border states over the last my entire life. But we went in there for a roundtable press conference with President Trump where he was touting the results that his Protecting Americans Against Foreign Invasion executive order, which he signed on day one, have yielded. And that includes, I think it was over 150,000 pounds of narcotics in just the last few months. That includes over 2 million fentanyl pills. And they've actually taken over 3,000 foreign designated terrorists and cartel members off the streets. So he held a roundtable with DHS Secretary Kristi Noem, Attorney General Pam Bondi, War Secretary Pete Hegseth, as well as some other administration officials like Stephen Miller to discuss the results of this. And I thought it was really incredible, a strong turnaround from what we saw during the Biden years.

[David Zier]

Yeah, there's no doubt. And I just had a private detective, Nils Grevillius from Los Angeles, and he says the numbers are down on the street of trafficking because of what Trump is doing at the border. But I wanted to ask you, and the primary reason why I wanted to have you on, by the way, I had a lot of fun with Jake. Jake Smith, Delmarva in Delaware. We do his show a lot. He's a lot of fun, very informative. But I wanted to talk about you've been doing special reports and taking a deep dive on ICE strategy and Trump. Tell us about it.

[Jordan Conradson]

Yeah. So on my new show, the DC Dive, which is sponsored and hosted by the Gateway Pundit, I've been kind of discussing some of the, you know, what we're not seeing with ice. Obviously, President Trump, his administration is doing an incredible job taking these illegal, violent illegal alien criminals off the streets, taking the drugs out of our communities. But it doesn't seem like it's really going to be enough. Over the next four years. Right now they have deported more than 2 million illegal aliens. That's great. You know, obviously a strong turnaround from the Biden years. But what we're not seeing is most of these were self deportations. You would think if we were going to continue having that success with self deportations, it seems kind of unlikely because everyone who wants to deport, I would assume are the not so bad people that are willing to take the thousand dollar check self deport. But we're just not seeing that number really increase in the last few months. I know last month they put out a press Release that said 1.6 million self deportations. This month they are also saying 1.6 million self deportations. So while President Trump is going to break the single year record for formal deportations of illegal aliens, I believe they're estimating 600,000. It might be even more. Unless we're seeing 2.5 million plus illegals removed per year from our country, we're not even going to get close to the. This is a low, low Ball number, 10 million that Joe Biden let in. Obviously there was more than 10 million encounters at the border during four years in office for Joe Biden. But that doesn't even count the known and unknown godaways in the millions that escaped into our country as well as the other millions of illegal aliens who are in our country today. So I'm hoping that they'll be able to actually ramp this up and start doing 200,000 deportations a month. But that's not going to happen with the violence we're seeing from left wing insurrectionists across the nation and the non compliance we're seeing from leftist mayors and governors.

[David Zier]

Yes. Before we go further on the ICE stuff, I just wanted to say Trump is doing such an incredible job with the media. You know, Carrie Jean Pierre is saying that, you know, Biden was out there more than Trump. And it's like such a lie. It's the biggest lie. More lies than she ever told, which you could fill an encyclopedia up with. But, you know, the access that the President has given to Real America's Voice. Brian Glenn doing an amazing job for us. The Gateway Pundit, these independent media outlets, I feel like the truth is actually being told. Like the data that you're giving. I don't hear that anywhere in the msm. Right. It's only from Brian. It's from you. It's about 10 other outlets that are down there that have really broken the mold. Right. Trump is really hitting it out of the park.

[Jordan Conradson]

That's right. And I mean, to that point, the leftist, the mainstream media, they'll never criticize Trump for having too little deportations, which I believe myself and a lot of other conservative journalists are willing to do.

[David Zier]

Yeah.

[Jordan Conradson]

They're saying, oh, he's deporting too many people. He's deporting people who haven't broken laws when they got into the United States, even though they are breaking the law just by entering the United States illegally. But they're trying to say these people aren't criminals. Even, even if they are criminals, even if they're rapists and murderers, they're always siding with the Democratic Party.

[David Zier]

But there's. Yeah, there's no doubt about that. Tell us, what else do you have going on in the field? And tell us what's going on with the Gateway Pundit. Because, you know, a lot of our audience, it's one of the first things they go to outside of Real America's Voice on a daily basis.

[Jordan Conradson]

You know, this further builds on your point of media access within the Trump administration. My next move is I'm going to be covering the Pentagon from here on out. Yes, I saw it, as well as the White House. So that, that's going to be really exciting. The Gateway Pundit, we're going to continue standing for the truth and really exposing the BS in, in the mainstream media narratives. So I think we have a lot of exciting stuff coming out. Obviously, I'm going to have my show, which premiered last week. We're going to be ramping that up, hopefully doing nightly segments eventually, but we're going to have some exciting stuff coming out.

[David Zier]

Yeah. And Benny Harmony is our new congressional correspondent on Capitol Hill. We're going to be part of the Pentagon's pool of 60 plus media outlets. And there was like a walkout by the msm. Do you know anything about that?

[Jordan Conradson]

Yeah. At the Pentagon. Is that what you're referring to?

[David Zier]

Yeah. What happened?

[Jordan Conradson]

Yeah. So the msm, as Sean Parnell put it, they chose to self deport from the Pentagon because they didn't want to sign these rules that limited the areas that they could go into within the Pentagon. And it asked, I mean, it said like you cannot solicit people for confidential classified materials. Which makes sense. I mean, you don't want to go to someone, encourage them to break the law and basically be an accomplice in that. So they stopped, they started asking journalists to stop going up to sources and asking them to break the law to give you confidential information, which I understand it's, it's a highly secure building and there's a lot of national security information that really can't get out for, for the good of us all.

[David Zier]

Yeah, for sure. One last topic. We have about two and a half minutes. You know, Ben Berkwam, you know, shared with me as well as people on the ground like Pastor David Lowery about the Chicago police, you know, and the DA's, they're charging people with lesser crimes so they don't keep them in jail who are illegals and they let them out the back door so ICE can't come and arrest them. Can you confirm anything like that going on in Chicago? I know you spend time on the ground there as well.

[Jordan Conradson]

I've seen Ben's reporting on Chicago. I have not been on the ground. But that, that is, that, that does sound likely because that's exactly the claims that they're making about the D.C. police Department, how they said in 2025 we're at, you know, record low crime where we're seeing a 60% decrease in homicides and rapes. But what they're doing is they're actually demoting these crimes, making them lesser crimes to skew the statistics and make it look like, oh, this is not as violent of a city that we're seeing and they're charging them with different crimes and demoting them from felony violent assault to something along to misdemeanor.

[David Zier]

Yeah. And the New York City police, so.

[Jordan Conradson]

It doesn't, doesn't surprise me if they're doing that in Chicago, in New York and all of these other. Oh yeah, New York Democrat led cities. Yeah.

[David Zier]

Because the prosecutor DA Bragg in his first year only prosecuted like 7% of the violent crimes. And despite them doing this and reducing the charges, especially for youngsters, there's still 62,000 felony and misdemeanor assaults on the streets of New York. Rape is up 19% for the year. So, you know, and that's what Jessica Tisch is a little better than what we had. But, you know, we still got Democrats in charge and a crazy city council. Jordan, thank you for joining us. Where can our people follow you and get the latest on your deep dive in your reporting?

[Jordan Conradson]

Of course, always at the Gateway. Pundit.com you can watch our show on Rumble at DC. Dive is the name of the show, so you can look that up. But I'm, I'm available on X at Conrad's and Jordan Instagram. All my social medias are the same. Jordan Conrads and Conrad. Jordan. I'm easy to find.

[David Zier]

I really appreciate all your hard work. Thanks for joining us, Jordan. I'll catch up with you. Jordan's, you know, he's, he's a brilliant guy. You know, he's a young guy and he's out there and he's in the mix. And the coverage that Brian Glenn has been bringing us and to the network has just been unparalleled because, you know, the media has been lying to you for a long time. And we won't. I won't. I want to thank you for watching A Breaking Point today on Real America's Voice News. We'll see you next week. And trick or treat. I'll see you soon.

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