Breaking Point with David Zere - October 4, 2025

Summary

Podcast Summary: Breaking Point with David Zere – October 4, 2025

Podcast: Real America’s Voice | Host: David Zere | Guests: Chris Hoare, Brian Reisinger, Paul Stone, and Nassau County locals
Date: October 4, 2025

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Overview

This episode of Breaking Point with David Zere dives into several of the week's major news themes: President Trump’s high-profile appearance at the Ryder Cup, concerns over security threats and telecom infrastructure, America's straining farming sector, the economic and cultural climate on Long Island, and a historical take on America’s economic woes. Through live interviews and local perspectives, Zere explores politics, technology, rural economics, and the legacy of national policy changes. The episode features in-depth commentary on foreign surveillance, local patriotism, agriculture under pressure from China, and the consequences of moving off the gold standard.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Security Threats: Foreign Surveillance and Telecom Vulnerabilities

(03:40–10:23)

• Guest: Chris Hoare (Disaster Response & Telecom, SAT123)

• Main Concern: Foreign-made surveillance equipment, especially from China, is widespread in U.S. cities, posing risks of espionage and cyberattacks.

• Recent Incident: A major bust by the Secret Service uncovered 300+ SIM servers and over 100,000 SIM cards near the UN General Assembly (UNGA), capable of sending up to 30 million messages per minute—potentially jamming cell towers and emergency response systems.

  “When you have a different purpose and you want to flood cell towers...what you end up with is denial of service. And that means you go try and make a call, it won’t go through.”
  — Chris Hoare (07:00)

• Implication: Authorities believe state actors may be testing infrastructure resilience as part of broader cyber warfare strategies.

• Solutions for Citizens: Hoare recommends satellite phones as a secure alternative in emergencies.

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2. Community Voices: Trump at the Ryder Cup and Local Patriotism

(10:25–23:55)

• Location: Bethpage Embassy Diner, Long Island

• Segment Content: David talks to local firefighters, EMTs, and NYPD officers who attended or were adjacent to the Ryder Cup, gathering thoughts on Trump’s appearance and the social/political climate.

• Community Themes:

  • Strong support for Trump; sense of local and national pride.
  • Reflection on the recent shooting of conservative commentator Charlie Kirk and its impact on the community.
  • Concerns over crime, bail reform, and the challenges for young people buying homes.

• Diner Owner Gus: Emphasizes American patriotism, the struggle of running a family diner (costs, labor), and community efforts, such as organizing a 9/11 first responders’ tribute.

  “We are considered the most patriotic diner in the country.”
  — Gus, Embassy Diner Owner (18:59)

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3. Farming in Crisis: China, Trade, and the American Farmer

(24:47–33:16)

• Guest: Brian Reisinger, author of Land Rich, Cash Poor

• Topic: The impact of China’s reduced soybean purchases and tariffs on American farmers.

• Key Points:

  • Farmers desire access to markets but want fair deals and not to be exploited by nations like China.
  • Media often sensationalizes challenges, but negotiation and resilience are ongoing.
  • Government programs via the USDA are critical for many farms, especially during shutdowns.
  • Diversification in crops/livestock helps some farmers weather market downturns.
  • Long-term solutions require reducing dependence on government and emphasizing entrepreneurial opportunity in farming, including regenerative practices.

  “A free trade deal isn’t any good if it’s unfair trade.”
  — Brian Reisinger (26:33)

  “Farmers just need government to function. That’s all they’re asking for.”
  — Brian Reisinger (29:41)

  “We’re losing, what, 40,000 farms a year.”
  — David Zere (32:33)

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4. Economic Anxiety & American Manufacturing

(33:39–37:10)

• Guest: Maria Lynn, SwitchToUSA.com
• Theme: Campaign to promote buying American-made products and undermine global financial conglomerates.
• Message: Encourages listeners to join a movement supporting American workers and regain economic self-sufficiency.
• Notable Quote:

  “This is a mission where we can defund the BlackRock and the pyramid scheme...and this is an American owned, made in America manufacturer.”
  — Maria Lynn (34:03)

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5. Historical Lens: 1971 and the Decline of American Quality of Life

(37:10–47:59)

• Guest: Paul Stone, author of 1971: How All of Society’s Problems Can Be Traced Back to a Singular Day in History

• Central Argument: America’s steep decline in quality of life, affordability, and social cohesion traces back to the 1971 abandonment of the gold standard.

• Supporting Insights:

  • Decoupling money from gold led to unchecked government spending, inflation, and wage stagnation.
  • Modern conveniences can't substitute for true peace of mind or financial security.
  • Regulatory and cost burdens make entrepreneurship harder now than ever.
  • Stone sees today's malaise as the result of “lunacy”—a system unanchored from reality and discipline.

  “Your earnings grew faster than the cost of living...your peace of mind was ever increasing.”
  — Paul Stone (38:35)

  “They were not supposed—it literally says in the Constitution...there cannot be a monetary system without gold.”
  — Paul Stone (44:13)

  “If you don’t have peace of mind, you will never enjoy your life.”
  — Paul Stone (47:16)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Community Candor:

  “Get a job. It’s pretty simple.”
  — David Zere re: protestors (00:57)

• Security Warnings:

  “We had a very robust relationship with most of the state and local prisons and jails...it is a very safe way of making arrests...But the left wants it this way. They want the chaos in the streets.”
  — Seattle ICE Director and David Zere (01:25–02:42)

• Local Patriotism:

  “The good people. We love our country. They’re tired of being told they’re the bad people.”
  — David Zere at Embassy Diner (19:16)

• Farming Reality:

  “No farmer wants to have a handout. But if farmers are going to be saying, hey, we’re making a sacrifice here to try to have tougher negotiations, it makes sense with some of that tariff revenue to help in the short term, I think.”
  — Brian Reisinger (28:24)

• Generational Hardship:

  “My heart breaks for anyone in their 20s and 30s...how they’re going to own the dirt they’re sleeping over, how they’re going to have families and vacations and pay for colleges and all that stuff.”
  — Paul Stone (45:53)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Security and Foreign Telecom Threats: 03:40–10:23
• On the Ground at the Embassy Diner (Ryder Cup, Community, Kirk shooting): 10:25–23:55
• American Farmers & China Trade: 24:47–33:16
• Pro-American Manufacturing and Economic Independence: 33:39–37:10
• 1971 Gold Standard & Declining Quality of Life: 37:10–47:59

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Conclusion

This episode of Breaking Point weaves a narrative stressing vigilant national security, community resilience and patriotism, the complexity and hardship facing American farmers, economic struggle at the grassroots, and a provocative historical argument about the roots of contemporary discontent. Voices from all walks—experts, local heroes, and passionate entrepreneurs—underscore a collective yearning for stability, fairness, and a restoration of American opportunity and values.

Transcript

[David]

This is an iheart podcast. Hey, everybody, you're watching Breaking Point. Unreal America's Voice News. Thank you so much for joining us. Been an exciting week or so. Trump going to the Ryder Cup. I got to cover his landing at Republic Airport here on Long Island. Talk with Ryder cup fans at the local diner. We got a great show for you today. I just wanted to start off by saying, by the way, I got a great video for you. I got to play journalist Nick Shirley. This sums it up in a nutshell. Check out this.

[Bob]

Somebody st the car with Trump.

[David]

Gestapo not welcome. Now this lady's trying to get out. What's your message to these protesters, ma'? Am? Get a job.

[Brian Reisinger]

Get a job.

[Seattle ICE Director]

I didn't run anybody over.

[David]

Get a job. It's pretty simple. Unbelievable. And then we got our great Ben Berquam, I've been working with for almost seven years here at the network and his interview with the Seattle ICE director. Here's a little clip from that. If these weren't sanctuary jurisdictions, where you could actually go into the jails and.

[Chris Hoare]

To the prisons.

[Brian Reisinger]

How much easier that.

[David]

Would make it and how much safer that would be for these communities.

[Seattle ICE Director]

Oh, my gosh, that would be. Well, that used to happen here. We had a very robust relationship with most of the state and local prisons and jails we were able to go in. I mean, going into a state prison or a local jail to pick up people would be. Could be accomplished with one to two officers where we're able to go in. We don't have to worry about going out into the community where we have to worry about what is happening around us and who is tracking us. We don't have to worry about whether or not there are weapons on the person. It is a very safe way of making arrests for our officers. But I think more importantly, it requires less of us to be out in the communities. We're not disrupting people or making, in some cases, rather large scenes, if you will, the way people describe it. I mean, I don't describe it that way. I'm just like, that's the way we have to be when we're going out into the community so that we can make sure our officers are safe and the public is safe. We certainly don't want to put the public at any risk. But at the same time, we have a public safety mission and an immigration mission that can't be ignored.

[David]

Pretty simple, right? But the left wants it this way. They want the chaos in the streets. Right, because it makes Trump look bad. And all they Got to do is open the jails and then go in and get the criminals. And they got to hold on to the criminals when they commit violent crimes, like in Chicago, you know. You know, stop letting him out the back door. How about that one? And then is this the America you want? This is footage from Portland, right? Foreign flags. Got Mexico at the pro Palestinian flag. I don't know. It's pretty troubling, I guess. We got American Indians there apparently, too. Listen, what's going on is crazy. We can come out of that. I. I want to get right to our first guest here, though, Chris Hoare. He's with Disaster Response and Telecom, national security spokesman for SAT123. Welcome to the show. How are you?

[Chris Hoare]

I'm good, David. Thanks for having me on, mate.

[David]

Yeah, you know, Publius reached out to me about, you know, there's security threats going on in the United States that a lot of people probably are not aware of. How many of our cities are encircled by a ring of foreign surveillance telecom networks, Chris?

[Chris Hoare]

Man, that's a great question, David. And I think we need to be concerned about all of them, honestly. You know, if you think about where the equipment that a lot of us, a lot of us buy, a lot of our cities and towns and municipalities buy, a lot of it comes from China. And anyone who's bought security cameras for their house, that comes from China, you'll. You'll notice that you have to use an app. And what do you think that app is being served from? Who do you think is being able to look at what's going on around your house? It's not just you. And that's just on a very personal level. But beyond that, the same kind of equipment's being sold to. To federal, state, bill, you know, buildings and governments, and they're using this equipment as well. So I think we need to be concerned everywhere. You know, another thing we need to be concerned about is the fact that the Chinese have been caught putting backdoors into all kinds of equipment. Equipment that's used to move containers at US Ports, equipment that's used to relay power and control the power grid and telecommunications networks. Backdoors have been found in those pieces of equipment. Well, yeah, but I think what was one thing we talk about today, which is new or newer, is certainly is a denial of service attack that the Secret Service managed to prevent. Right around. It was about a week ago, around the United Nations General assembly, the Secret Service discovered over 300 SIM servers and 100,000 SIM cards. And what that does SIM servers are designed to basically be able to operate hundreds or even thousands of SIM cards simultaneously. And so together, when you put together 300 of these servers and 100,000 SIM cards, whoever was operating this network had the ability to potentially Send up to 30 million messages per minute. And of course, you know, you can only imagine what that does to cell towers, right?

[David]

Yeah, for sure. And now is this kind of similar to like Huawei vs Cisco type thing and foreign technology? And this, this was a big bust, right?

[Chris Hoare]

Yeah, it certainly was one of the bigger ones that I've seen reported recently. I mean, look, whoever, whoever made the equipment, and we don't know, I don't think they've released that information yet, but whoever it's, whoever was operating this, you know, to me, there are no coincidences. And certainly when you've got this kind of operation that is discovered or uncovered right around the exact time of the UNGA, where President Trump and many other world leaders were and were speaking, there's something a lot more nefarious going on, most likely. Now, look. Yes. This is the same equipment used to send all those annoying spam messages promising you fame, fortune, riches, and girlfriends and so on that we all get. Unfortunately, it's the same kind of equipment does that, but when you, when you have a different purpose and you want to flood cell towers, because, look, cell towers, cell networks can only handle so much traffic at one time, right. So if you overwhelm either the cell towers or the backhaul, which is the infrastructure that connects all these or the control planes, what you have, what you end up with is denial of service. And that means you go try and make a call, it won't go through. You try to send. Won't go through. Right?

[David]

Yes. So. Right, right. I was just going to say it's the potential to jam 911 calls and collapse the network. Right? Yeah.

[Chris Hoare]

It could jam 91 1. It could jam any, any other kind of communication, whether it's first responders, police, you know, just citizens, it can jam all of that. And, and look, they may only be able to do this for a few minutes or a few hours, but a lot can happen in that time, especially when you're talking about something like the United. A meeting of the United Nations. That's a very sensitive security issue. Of course. But look, if it can be done there, it can be done anywhere. And say all of this equipment was discovered within 35 miles of the UNGA.

[David]

Yeah. And in New Jersey. Right. Tell us about the size and scope of the bus from Secret Service and How many servers and cards and SIM cards they got?

[Chris Hoare]

Well, what they're telling us is over 300 SIM servers and 100,000 plus SIM cards. And that's an awful lot. And look, you know, to legitimately be able to connect that many accounts, you have to have some kind of relationship with a provider. You know, it, there are other ways to do it, but you know, and telecom companies are aware of this kind of thing. But the thing is how many of these attacks can they handle? Could they handle at the same time? I don't know. I think what concerns me is that it this is just one of the latest incidents that we've seen attacking our infrastructure. Not just in the last week, but in the last several years there's been many of them. We've seen software implanted in networks or some would say pre planted in anticipation of wanting to be activated. Software that can disable the power grid, disable communications networks, disable Internet connections and so on. So there's an awful lot going on. And to me a lot of this looks like dry runs, right where they take off one a small power station. You know, it could be that's all they were trying to do. Or more likely, I think given the bad state actors around the world who are constantly attacking us, I think they might be able to test, they might be trying to test what our infrastructure can do and what our response would be.

[David]

Wow. And this is a challenge for carriers and regulators. Right? Going forward, we have about 40 seconds, we have about a minute. Tell us where people can follow sat123. And what do we do to address this?

[Chris Hoare]

Well, yeah, go to sat123.com and you can actually get a free satellite phone with activation. This phone Normally costs you one to 2,000 anywhere else in the world, but it'[e-mail] we give you a free sat phone when you activate. It's about 85 bucks a month. You get 150 minutes a month to use. And the thing is this, David, is that these phones will work when cell towers go down. They don't rely on ground based infrastructure, cell towers or anything else. That's why the US Military uses them. That's why first responders use them. That's why our intelligence agencies use them. Because they work anywhere, no matter what, anywhere on earth. If you can see the sky, you can make a call with a cell phone. And so that's one way that we as Americans can be prepared for either small emergencies or potentially much larger ones.

[David]

All right, I want to thank you so much for coming on, Chris. I really appreciate your insight. And we got to protect our grid. We got to protect our communic. Sure. Thank you so much.

[Chris Hoare]

Pleasure, David. Thank you.

[David]

All right, everybody, when we come back, I've got more great stuff for you. Trump's arrival on Long island here for the Writers Cup. And then I've got Brian Reisinger. The real story about the soybean threat from China on American farmers. We'll be right back. As countries have walked away in the past few years from the US Dollar, Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa. Diversify into gold into birch gold. And for over 5,000 years, gold has withstood inflation, geopolitical turmoil, and stock market crashes. And the great news is you can still get it. In fact, you can own gold and silver in a tax sheltered retirement account. Birch Gold makes it easy to convert your IRA or 401k into an IRA and precious metals. And all you got to do is text the word America. The9898.98 to claim your free info kit on gold. With 20 years experience converting IRAs and 401Ks into precious metal IRAs, Birch Gold can help you protect yourself with gold today by texting the word America to 9898. 98 with an A plus rating. With the Better Business Bureau, thousands of happy customers and countless five star reviews, secure your future with gold. Start today with a free info kit. Again, there's no obligation. Check it out. Make the request. Just text the word America to 98. 98. 98. Sam, I think we lost nine of the last 12 Ryder Cups to Europe. But last weekend, Bethpage Golf course, incredible event. Quarter million people, $200 million for the local economy. And Trump coming there just made it that much more fun and better. Getting an incredible response from the crowd. I covered Air Force One landing at Republic Airport here, right on Long island with his granddaughter K it. Trump's with Kai. The fans left the Ryder cup and went over to the Beth Page Embassy Diner. This place is phenomenal. Check out my friend Gus and the great patriots on the ground there. What's the number here at the Embassy Diner in Nassau County, New York? Bethpage, New York. We have great people on the ground here from all over the place. You guys just came from the ride a cup, right? Yeah, we were right there. And your name's Steven, right? Yeah. All right, so this place is great. Isn't it great? Oh, yeah, this place is awesome. Good. Come here a lot? Yeah, we come here all the time. And you're Actor. You guys are all in the firehouse together. North Massapequa. What's your name?

[Joe]

Robert.

[David]

Robert and Anthony, right? Yes, sir. All right, Robert, you went to the Ryder Cup. Did you see Trump? I did not. I did not see Trump.

[Joe]

I was actually at the practice two days ago.

[David]

And, Anthony, tell us a little bit about. We were talking about Charlie Kirk and the memorial. Right. What are your feelings about Charlie Kirk? I mean, he was an inspiration to our generation.

[Brian Reisinger]

It said what happened, but it woke a lot of people up.

[David]

And all these visuals and everything going on is showing that you don't need to. You don't need a riot to protest. Stephen, what do you think about Charlie Kirk? What. What's the biggest impact do you think he had on young and old people? I think just the. All he wanted to do was bring back respectful debates.

[Brian Reisinger]

And I remember one of his most.

[David]

Popular quotes was, when people stop talking, they get violent. And I agree with that a lot. Wow. Rob, how about you?

[Joe]

I agree with Steve. Like what he said, it's a. Listen, they took them. What happened with him, it didn't end.

[David]

The turning point, though. I think it's gonna grow even bigger. It's gonna grow even bigger. All right, so what do you guys do for a living? I'm actually an EMT with town of Oyster Bay. Noble job. Still have a lot of ODs out here, unfortunately.

[Brian Reisinger]

Yeah, but we definitely try.

[David]

They say new drugs are hitting the streets.

[Brian Reisinger]

Yeah, there's a lot of bad stuff out there.

[David]

We just. We do the best we can. How about you, Rob?

[Joe]

Well, I'm in the fire department in Mosa. I'm a server at a pizzeria.

[David]

Great. I used to make pizza. I love it. Love it. New York has the best pizza, right?

[Joe]

It does, it does.

[David]

And bagels. Definitely bagels, because we still boil them here. Anthony, what about you? I'm currently in school right now, but.

[Joe]

I want to go into law enforcement when I'm done.

[David]

Listen, great people of Long island, quality generation here. I want to thank you guys so much for coming on from the Embassy Diner in Bethpage, New York. This place is super. I want to thank the owner, Gus, for letting us do this today. Thank you, guys. Thank you. All right. We love the Embassy Diner. My mother hung out here in High School 60 years ago. My grandfather was a cook here about 60, 70 years ago. The greatest people on the ground. What's your name, sir?

[Joe]

Joe.

[David]

Joe, what's your name? Carol. Joe and Carol from the area, Nassau County. Right. You've been coming here a long time. Right?

[Joe]

Oh, since I was a kid, yeah.

[David]

Yeah, Absolutely. Since high school. Wow. Diners are a big deal, Long Island. Absolutely they are, yes. A lot of Greek families. The kids are taking them over. Harder to do business today. But this place, unbelievable. The decoration, the patriotism on Long Island. Best diner on the island.

[Brian Reisinger]

Long Island.

[Seattle ICE Director]

All right.

[David]

A lot going on here today. I covered Trump landing at Republic Airport for the network Real America's Voice News. Trump's at the Ryder cup right now. A lot of people came through the diner today from the Ryder Cup. But you're here. This is your normal gear, right? Oh, yes, right. So I love Trump. He's an amazing, amazing president. Best president we've ever had. Not afraid. You're not ashamed to say it? Absolutely not. Absolutely.

[Joe]

Greatest president.

[David]

Greatest president we've ever had. What do you think about Charlie Kirk getting shot? Tough deal, right?

[Joe]

Yeah, very tough deal.

[David]

Yeah. We're all broken up about it. And, you know, what's the message that you took away from Charlie Kirk?

[Joe]

Message that I took away from Charlie Kirk is. It's hard to say because I can. I always compared him to, like, Martin Luther King, you know, Martin Luther King was a great, great man. Charlie Kirk was a great man, and they both had the same idea to get the message out to America.

[David]

Yeah. And he did it in a really great way. Never lost his cool, right? Never. He was an amazing man, and it's. It's a real shame that he had to die, you know, for loving God. And when is it gonna end? What's the threshold? Trump gets shot. They killed Charlie Kirk. How do we get a handle on this?

[Joe]

Oh, God, don't ever say that. But, you know, like, you know, tough situation. You know what?

[David]

The good people never ask for anything.

[Joe]

Everybody's gonna remember where they were when it happened. I mean, the man took a bullet for this country, and you gotta love him for it.

[David]

You're nypd, Joe. You see things getting a little better in the city.

[Joe]

I hope so. I think our mayor's doing a really good job. I support this current mayor, you see.

[David]

Support Mayor Adams. Why do you think he's taking a better role with Jessica Tisch and the police?

[Joe]

He's doing a really good job. Jessica Tisch is doing a good job. You know, under them, I feel like the crime is going down. I feel like he is.

[David]

You're allowed to make arrests, I hear.

[Joe]

Yes, we are allowed to make arrests.

[David]

But you still got bail reform, so a lot of guys are back out on the street. Right.

[Joe]

It's a difficult situation. Because you. You arrest them and then bail her for them. Kind of puts them back out on the street.

[David]

Everybody loves the Embassy Diner. Anywhere you go here in the New York area, people know the Embassy Diner in Nassau County. We're right across the street from the Ryder Cup. 250,000 people coming out, and the guy who's feeding them all. Gus from the Embassy Diner. How are you? I'm very good. Thank you for being here, guys. Yeah, my mother hung out here in the 60s. Yeah. It's been here that long? My grandfather was a cook here. Really? Yeah, about 70 years. 60 years. All right, so, Gus, you got an amazing place here. You. This place is decorated to the hilt. And, you know, you guys go out of your way. It's not just, you know, about the holidays. Every holiday, you really go all out. Right. But it's also about patriotism. Patriotism. We are considered the most patriotic diner in the country. That's what we are here at the Embassy Diner. You have an amazing operation here. I don't know how you do it. You just showed me your video of your drone show you had last week. Drone show for nine, 11 first responders. 5,000 people came to the diner. Over 5,000 people were outside, lined down the streets. That's a lot of gyros. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. But it really wasn't about a lot. It wasn't really about feeding them. It was more about doing something special for our first responders. It's unbelievable. You go above and beyond all the time. Everybody I meet in this place is just awesome. Regular people, we call them real American voices. Right. The good people. We love our country. They're tired of being told they're the bad people. Exactly. Right. Because we love our country. Yeah. Tell us about the economy. Do you see things picking up a little bit yet, or interest rates just have to come down that much more? I have to be honest with you. I mean, thank God. The Embassy Diner, we've been okay. I've never even seen anything so. Well, you got a good operation, people seek you out. Yeah, it's true. Yeah. There's no doubt about it. Everybody I talk to, I grew up in the diner circuit along my father delivered a appliances, so I knew all the diners. Right. But you know, there's not as many also. Right. It's hard to keep this type of operation going. The problem is the old timers like your grandpa, they had no problem working. The problem is now a lot of people don't want to work there. We have to Work. That's a problem. Yeah, no, I understand. And the gas and electric bills aren't cheap. Not like, anymore. Yeah, I. I had a friend who owned a diet. He told me his gas and electric bill were $23,000 a month. It's my red light wiping. It's incredible. But listen, you're like a New York strong guy. We always appreciate all that you do, Gus. Embassy. Diana. Come to Long island just to come here. You're gonna love it. They're all out for Halloween right now. American flags everywhere. Most patriotic dine in the country. All right, Gus, thank you so much. I appreciate your hospital. Thank you for being here, guys. 100. Thank you, sir. Embassy Diner. Great Americans on the ground here. Owner Gus and the staff nice enough to let us in here today. We're down the road from the Ryder cup and we have Bob with us. I had to talk to Bob. A great American didn't go to the Ryder cup today. But Governor Hoca was booed the other day, right?

[Bob]

Yes, she was.

[David]

How many times?

[Bob]

Well, not enough, but it should have been four or five.

[David]

Yeah, three times down there. Unbelievable. Trump just arrived. We covered him at Republic Airport. He came with his granddaughter Kai over at the Ryder Cup. What do you think about Trump?

[Bob]

I think he's great. I think what he's doing for the country is great. I think what a family man, having his granddaughter there.

[David]

She's great, colorful.

[Bob]

She really is, and I think it's great. I didn't mind the traffic because he was there, so everything is good. And I want to thank him for everything he's done for the borders and keeping the drugs off the street.

[David]

Yeah. Now you have children, how did the Charlie Kirk shooting affect you?

[Bob]

No. Very deeply. We're a big Christian family, and it was very hard to grasp everything that happened.

[David]

Now you're in construction. I have a background in construction. Very long time. And, you know, the tariffs impacted your price. You're in the H Vac business, right? Impacted your prices temporarily. What, 10, 15%?

[Bob]

Yeah, about 10, 15%. And, you know, it's. It. It had, you know, we're all dealing with it. It's for the greater good. So I'm really not getting too upset about it.

[David]

And not enough interest rate drop? Shit.

[Bob]

Not at all. Not at all. They're not doing enough for that.

[David]

Are your kids old enough to buy a house?

[Bob]

My daughter has a house. Thank God my son's looking now. And it's tough. It's very hard for young people in Long Island.

[David]

Do you watch Real America's Voice News.

[Bob]

Yes, I do.

[David]

Oh, good. That's great to know. All right. Awesome. Bob, I want to thank you so much for coming on. We love this place at the Beth Page Embassy. Dinah, if you have not been here, come to Nassau County, Long island and check it out. Bob, thank you. Ask for Gus.

[Bob]

There you go.

[David]

Thank you so much. Don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with more Breaking Point on real America's Voice News. Welcome back, everybody. You're watching Breaking point. Unreal. America's Voice news. The soybean farmers of our country are, you know, it's a big deal these days. China negotiating, maybe not buying product from our farmers. We're going to get the real story of that. And as always, we love having Brian Reisinger on the show. He's the author of Land Rich, Cash Poor, My Family's Hope and the Untold Story of the Disappearing American Farmer. Brian, welcome back.

[Brian Reisinger]

Good to be with you, Dave.

Thanks for shedding a light on these issues.

[David]

Yeah. And very important, very important. Farmers are the most important. You know, rugged individualists made this country great. I want to start by playing a clip here on cnn. Check this out. All right.

[Seattle ICE Director]

Thank you, John. New this morning, U.S. secretary of Agriculture Rick Rollins, Brooke Rollins says the U.S. farming economy is, quote, in a significant challenge as farmers struggle with the impact tariffs are having on their livelihood. It's been five months since President Trump announced his global trade war. As a result, China, the world's biggest soybean buyer, is now refusing to purchase American soybeans, instead turning to countries like Brazil and Argentina. That export alone was worth nearly $25 billion last year. Over the weekend, Senate Majority Leader John Thune said farmers will need a bailout this year. Joining me now is John Boyd, Jr. Founder and president of the National Black Farmers Association. Thank you, sir, for being here. Love the hat. Trump's tariffs idea was that China relied so heavily on the US Market that it would force Beijing to accept trade terms that helped American consumers and businesses, including farmers. What is it doing for your farm.

[David]

Right now? American farmers are really struggling out here. Within 10 months, the president has caused complete chaos for American farmers with his, with his tariffs, $20 billion to Argentina alone. And they're the ones. So, Brian, is that the real story on the ground that Trump's caused chaos on the American farms in his first 10 months in office?

[Brian Reisinger]

You know, the real story on the ground is that farmers do want markets and they hope that we can do business with China if they're willing to be fair. But farmers also have been saying we need to have tougher negotiations. We need to make sure that when we're doing deals with other countries that they're not ripping America off. A free trade deal isn't any good if it's unfair trade. So I think what our farmers want to see, it's true, they need markets, and it's true that China buys a lot of soybeans. But I think what our farmers want to see is those deals being made in a way where we can have deals that put family farms first. And I think the problem with the media narrative right now is they jump to the conclusion that is all is lost and that the situation is already on fire irreparably.

[David]

Right.

[Brian Reisinger]

And there's more negotiating and more pushing and battling with China to be doing here.

[David]

Yeah. Trump had a truth social post, and he said soybean farmers of our country are being hurt because China is, for negotiating reasons, not buying. We've made so much money on tariffs that we are going to take a small portion of that money and help our farmers. I will never let our farmers down. Sleepy Joe Biden didn't enforce our agreement with China where they were going to purchase billions of dollars of our farm product. But soybeans in particular, it's all going to work out very well. So do you have faith in President Trump that the farmers will succeed here?

[Brian Reisinger]

I think that I don't want to.

Say I speak for all farmers, but I think that farmers want to see over the long term that we get China operating in a more fair way and that we have markets all across the globe, whether they're China or anywhere else where people are operating fair. And I think a lot of farmers feel like we've traditionally been too dependent on China, where they buy so much agriculture products that they can buy a bunch and then they can dump it. And that's why we're hostage in these situations. So I think that if we can have proper negotiations and along the way, if tariff revenue can help, if the government is sort of trying to adjust this by taking some of that tariff revenue, no farmer wants to have a handout. But if farmers are going to be saying, hey, we're making a sacrifice here to try to have tougher negotiations, it makes sense with some of that tariff revenue to help in the short term, I think.

[David]

Does the shutdown affect the US Farmer?

[Brian Reisinger]

Yeah, it absolutely does. And that's not because the American farmer wants to have the government doing all the things the government has been doing. A lot of farmers are very naturally small government people the issue that we have is when you got what's going on in Congress here with the Democrats squabbling with the Republicans, et cetera, et cetera, what happens is there are loan programs and other things that are made possible simply by the USDA functioning. And that gets into the bigger issue, like the farm bill and other stuff. There are private lenders that farmers use. Sometimes farmers are made by USDA mandate and other things. Long way going back to use a government loan program for certain types of financing, whatever it is, the farmer just wants to be able to take out a loan, pay that loan back by making the money they needed on their crop. They want to grow something, people are here to buy. And when the government isn't functioning right, it makes all these things, whether it's a government program or a private sector loan program, completely thrown into disarray. So farmers just need government to function. That's all they're asking for.

[David]

Yeah. So what about. Okay, so, I don't know. It's almost the end of farming season for a lot of areas, but you still have all those legacy costs and you still got to carry the overhead through the winter. Right. So that can affect that. Right. Getting. Getting funding.

[Brian Reisinger]

That's absolutely right. Being able to have the ability to get a loan as a farmer, like anybody else, like a homeowner or anybody else, is crucial. It's especially crucial in the spring as you're heading toward the fall. But after the fall, we're going to see how much farmers make on their crops here. Not just soybean, but corn and beef and all kinds of different crops and products. And being able to have access to that capital is important at any time. You know, especially as you come into the end of the year, if it is going to be a tighter year, being able to, you know, function and say, hey, we've grown something, people want to buy. We need to get financing to keep our small business going. That's important for the American farmer.

[David]

How is the ag industry doing overall? You know, there's other things. Is ethanol still getting made in Iowa and what other types of things? How's the beef industry doing as well?

[Brian Reisinger]

Yeah, it is.

Ethanol is still happening. And you know, with, with beef. Beef actually is in a situation where it just shows there's ups and downs for farm. Um, we've got the UK trade deal where more American grown beef could be sold there. And also beef price has been a little higher. Farmers don't make a whole bunch more money when the beef price is higher. That's because of all kinds of other problems with the supply chain. But beef is a place where the farmer is able to actually make a little bit of money back. So some of those farmers might be losing money on soybeans, might be able to make a little bit more on selling a load of cattle, stuff like that. So diversified farms have the ability to ride ups and downs. And here's the thing, Dave, you know, because you've talked with your viewers about this, these are century old issues, decades of reasons why we're los and farms, and what's happened more recently around tariffs and other things. The reality is that we need to shake things up in a very big way and not just accept the federal government status quo that we had for decades and decades that put us in this position.

[David]

Okay, so we have about a minute and a half left. What's the solution and what's the biggest concern for farmers right now?

[Brian Reisinger]

Absolutely, the best solution is to insert more entrepreneur opportunity. We can get the government out of the way and let the farmer grow things that people want to buy. People can help with that by taking a step toward your farmer. The biggest concern that I have right now, and I think a lot of farmers have it, is just making sure that we capitalize on that growth and people who care about where their food comes from, it's a real opportunity. We make sure we don't squander it. Because if we do squander it, we're going to go back to this world that gave us this great big vulnerable national supply chain where the farmer doesn't have a whole lot of entrepreneur opportunity and consumers have higher prices and less healthy food.

[David]

So I think we need to seize regenerative farming. That's big right now, right?

[Brian Reisinger]

Yeah, it's a big part of it. And our small family farmers are really poised to do that and to be able to have, you know, farming that can allow us to know what we're putting into our bodies. A lot of farmers want to do that.

[David]

Okay, well, Brian, I always appreciate your insight. Just looking to get, you know, the truth about what's really going on. And you know, the farmers are the hardest working bunch in America. You know, kids leave the farm, they don't come back. Right. They're shrinking. We're losing, what, 40,000 farms a year. Thank you so much. And go check out the book Land Rich Cash, My Family's Hope and the Untold Story of the Disappearing American Farmer by Brian Reisinger. Where can people follow you? Absolutely.

[Brian Reisinger]

People can find me on X at brianj.risinger or on my website, brian-risinger.com that's R E I S I n G E R. All right.

[David]

As always, appreciate your insight. Thank you.

[Seattle ICE Director]

Thanks, man.

[Brian Reisinger]

Take care.

[David]

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[David]

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[David]

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[Brian Reisinger]

Thanks for having me.

[David]

And we're gonna talk about that day in history. But your book got incredible attributes in it. Your forward was written by Judge Jeanine and others, right?

[Brian Reisinger]

Yeah. Larry Kudlow, Roger Stone, Greg Kelly, Newsmax.

[David]

Why do you think they found it so appealing?

[Brian Reisinger]

You know, it's one, I'm honored. But they came to the realization when they read the book, you know, when it was in PDF form, that this story has never been told before. What's unique about the book versus what most, how most coverage, you know, functions is it's always talking about the symptoms, but it never takes the symptoms and traces it back down to the root. And I'm all about the source of everything.

[David]

Sure.

[Brian Reisinger]

You know, my most of my life's been a hell of a mystery, trying to figure it out as I go. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[David]

I'm married for 36 years, raising kids, four grand now and, but you know, I'm gonna have to work until I'm about 97. So. But I gotta tell you, you know, just the cost of living. You were saying in 1970, the average cost of a home was just $23,000. The average median home in the US I think is about $460,000 now. May come down a little bit when the interest rates drop more. But tell us about that singular day in history. When was it when everything changed?

[Brian Reisinger]

So since The Egyptians, until 1971, gold and silver was money or it was involved with the money. And you know, I could already hear people laughing how archaic that is. We have touchscreen devices today. All it was, folks, was reality. That's all it was, was reality. Yet whether you're talking to two cans and a string to each other or a phone, you're still talking through something that came from the Earth. You're talking through a device that is real. I know Instagram is pictures of a life that isn't necessarily real. Someone's out there doing real living and they're giving you a snapshot of what that life or what they want you to see of that life on Instagram. But they're still a real human mostly, unless it's a bot or AI today. So my point is, for all of the years that humans did commerce, gold and silver was money, a real form of money which kept the size of the financial system and the costs and the earnings in harmony. In fact, on the gold standard, for all of the thousands of years being with a gold standard, all the reserve currency countries, your earnings grew faster than the cost of living. Faster. So by the time you were 40, lake home, couple vacations a year, two cars, mom didn't have to work, good to go. Your peace of mind was ever increasing. And the social issues that we argue about, or, you know, the war or the this or the that was temporary. The troubles we're dealing with today are permanent. And no one sees the Axl sees the source of them. And that's where the book is illuminary.

[David]

And without that gold and silver backing, you know, there's no discipline out there.

[Brian Reisinger]

Right. There's no reality.

[David]

I use the pizza index in modern times. You know, like in 1978, it was 50 cents for a slice of pizza. Now, now it's 375. So is money worth six times less than it was seven times less than just 40, 50 years ago? Yeah. And tell us about the effects of taking us off the gold standard.

[Brian Reisinger]

So gold was the. So gold was the money. But when you, when they, you know, the, the paper for the dollar bill is a top secret recipe. It's 60% linen. So when they figured out how to make paper that wouldn't get destroyed if it got wet and went through the washing machine or what have you, then that paper was a better way to carry gold and silver because you and I didn't have to have a satchel on our hip that jingled if we ran after the bus. And women's purses wouldn't weigh as much. You know, in the old cartoons, the black and white, a woman hit some creepy guy with her purse and knock him out because it was full of metal. So today it's, you know, full of a checkbook and plastic. But all it did was kept everything right size. That's all it did. It kept the government out of our lives in ways that it's in our lives today that annoy the living hell out of us or ruin or has ruined, destroyed the pursuit of happiness. That happiness can be elusive, but most of us used to be able to find it. Regardless of our income, regardless of whether we worked in the factory. We weren't envious of the guy who owned it or the gal who owned it and got a new Cadillac every six months. We didn't care because we had peace of mind. And that at one point was literally the dream of humanity on this planet that could there one day be a land where the government wasn't ruining my ability to enjoy my time on the planet.

[David]

Yeah.

[Brian Reisinger]

And that's what America became.

[David]

And I grew up in the, in the recessions of the 70s. And you know, my parents got divorced. We didn't have a nickel. You know, my mother was a clown. She was a wallpaper hanger. She did whatever she had to do to survive. And my father sold appliances, you know, so, you know, but they were divorced and it was tough. But you know, it, it kind of almost didn't matter. You know, we always, we jumped in my mother's 73 Nova or 76 Dodge Charger with the fastback. You know, we, we jumped, we piled into the car, we went to the beach, we went to the movies for $3, not 17 a head. You know, we, we played baseball, we did our thing. And that, that, that's changed. That dynamic has changed, right?

[Brian Reisinger]

Yeah, man. I grew up where my jeans became cutoffs in the summer. I got one pair of shoes a year. We heated our house in the winter with a wood burning stove. We didn't get air conditioning until I was practically out of the house, you know, so I didn't care. We would care incredibly today because we're already sacks, we're already overwhelmed beyond our threshold with misery that any little thing that comes now just. We're going to go postal.

[David]

Yeah.

[Brian Reisinger]

And what causes that? So back in 1971, Nixon ends the gold standard to cover up a lie. They're already printing money. They were not supposed. It literally says in the Constitution that I'm going to paraphrase, but there cannot be a monetary system without gold. It's almost as literal as that. And you know what? Shame on me for not having that memorized. Alan Greenspan, one of the most famous Fed chairmen ever, before he left the schooling part of his career for the working part of his career as an economist, literally said in 1967 in his PhD thesis that any monetary system without gold is lunacy. So we have lunacy today. Just plainly stated, you guys can enjoy your air conditioning and MRI machines in every hospital, and all your grocery store shelves are full, but you can't afford anything because the government's paying its bills with printed money, which causes commodity prices to go higher. And just one data point. Since 2010, commodity prices are 400. Okay, look around you. Where do you not see a commodity? But your earnings are only up 84%.

[David]

Let me.

[Brian Reisinger]

That's evil.

[David]

So, okay, I, you know, I have. We paid for 72 years of college and Catholic school for our kids so far. It's been a struggle. And, you know, we're tied to the apron technology and all kinds of stuff. But I also. What if you looked at it like, you know, that, you know, we have more convenience today. You know, we have, I don't want to say a higher quality of life, but, you know, we have, you know, more. More entertainment. We have more access to things. And. And, you know, isn't there. Isn't there a plus side to where we're at as well?

[Brian Reisinger]

No, there isn't, because I'd rather be fishing than needing to distract myself with a sports game. I'm not getting paid millions of dollars a year to play that sport. Yeah, you know, I. The world has grown more into the distraction business because that's what we're demanding. There never should have been a war on drugs because there never should have been a society so freaking miserable it needed drugs en masse. You could say. Well, people have always done drugs. Yeah, occasionally here and there. And there's the addict, the alcoholic. But where we literally have a country legalizing it because it's so prevalent. Why do I need to anesthetize myself? Why would I need to make myself right? Dopey? Also because I'm so miserable, my mind is seeking relief. Why is it seeking relief? Because I can't see the end to the struggle that I'm facing because I don't even know where it's coming from. And that's what the book illuminates for everybody.

[David]

Sure. And, you know, the race for technology is convenience, but in doing that, we took away the rugged individualism that made our country great. Right.

[Brian Reisinger]

And kids, the human bonds.

[David]

And kids in 1900 were better in math than they are now. Right? Right. We have about a minute and a half. I'll give you the last word.

[Brian Reisinger]

My heart breaks for Anyone in their 20s and 30s, anyone who's in their teens that's now starting to become aware of the seeking for vision on how their life's going to go and how they're going to own the dirt they're sleeping over, how they're going to have families and vacations and pay for colleges and all that stuff. Because, you know, like Tiger Wood said, he never hit a golf shot where he didn't see the ball landing before he swung the club. So just think about that. You walk up to a ball, what if, what if you're blindfolded, you don't know what club to use, you don't know where the, the green is. You don't know where you should be aiming, how hard you should swing. You're not going to be able to make good contact with the ball beneath you at your feet because you can't see it. So vision is essential. It's the lack of vision in every central government that is causing their country their hell. Einstein said, the mind that creates the problem cannot possess the solution. Literally, it's cannot. Like it isn't even on the game board. So if the government is the oracle of our troubles, how do we move and change our lives so that we're not impacted so much by what they're creating? Well, Tennessee is the number one state with the best earnings to cost of living ratio in the country. Just like the colonists left, left socialism and came across the Atlantic. You might need to give up and leave the city and leave. You think all that fun is because if you don't have peace of mind, you will never enjoy your life.

[David]

Yeah, and it's harder, you know, when you start a business today, you got more legacy costs, you got higher insurance costs, 40,000 a year for health care. You got licensing fees everywhere, Overregulation. Right? So it's very hard.

[Brian Reisinger]

The government needs money. It never has enough money.

[David]

Never has enough money. I want to thank you so much for joining us. Paul Stone, everybody. Go out and get 1971 how all of society on Amazon can be traced to a singular day in history. Get it on Amazon. Paul Stone, I want to thank you so much. I'm going to go out and get it tonight. So thank you for coming on.

[Brian Reisinger]

Thank you for having me. Because awareness the Paul Stone on Twitter.

[David]

All right, we're out of time. Paul, thank you so much. Very grateful you came on. Thank you.

[Brian Reisinger]

Thanks for having me. God bless.

[David]

All right, everybody, thank you for watching Breaking Point today. We'll see you next week. This is an Iheart podcast.