Breaking Point with David Zere – September 6, 2025

Podcast: Real America’s Voice
Host: David Zere (A)
Guests: Brad Kohler (B), Rudy Giuliani (D), plus brief appearances from co-hosts/commentators (C), and Maria (E) from Switch2USA

Overview

This episode of Breaking Point, hosted by David Zere, delivers a politically-charged conversation with gubernatorial candidate Brad Kohler, a deep-dive interview with former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani, and a spotlight on American-made goods. The discussions focus on pressing issues in Minnesota politics, urban crime and leadership in New York, government corruption, and reflections on 9/11, all through a conservative and populist lens.

Major Segments & Timestamps

1. Interview with Brad Kohler, GOP Gubernatorial Candidate (01:32–09:34)
2. Three-Part Interview with Rudy Giuliani
   • On New York corruption (13:46–19:56)
   • NYC’s transformation & “broken windows” policy (24:12–34:56)
   • Restoration of leadership in NYC, lessons from 9/11 (36:18–46:27)
3. Short Segment: Switch2USA’s “Made in America” Mission (20:41–22:37)

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Brad Kohler on the Minnesota Governor’s Race (01:32–09:34)

• Campaign Challenges & the State of the GOP

  • Kohler highlights Minnesota’s long history as a Democrat stronghold and acknowledges fierce competition and the massive financial advantage of incumbent Governor Tim Walz.
  • The Minnesota GOP, according to Kohler, is “very establishment” and “not… a big fan of Donald Trump.” Kohler positions himself as a Trump-aligned outsider.
  • Notable quote (02:11):

    “As far as the GOP goes, they're not fans of Brad Kohler right now. They are really establishment. They're not also a big fan of Donald Trump. I align mostly with Donald Trump than any other candidate. And I believe we're going to turn this state red now.” — Brad Kohler

• What Sets Kohler Apart

  • Kohler pitches himself as a businessman, non-career politician, and someone who relates to working Minnesotans.
  • He criticizes his opponents as career politicians who ‘live off government spending’, contrasting that with his perspective shaped by private sector experience.
  • Notable quote (03:15):

    “I'm a businessman, so I don't have that safety net that they're used to. These are people that live off the government spending and... salaries. They don't understand that we don't get paid if we miss a day of work.” — Brad Kohler

• Culture Wars & Government Policy

  • The conversation veers into critiques of “woke” policies in Minnesota, particularly relating to transgender issues, male cheerleaders, and what both host and guest view as liberal social engineering.
  • Kohler pledges stronger leadership to “bring this to a screeching halt.”
  • Notable quote (04:22):

    “This is a dire, straight situation. We have a lunatic that is in office that is... pushing this agenda, and they have the money to back this.” — Brad Kohler

• Crime, Economic Development, and the Conservative Shift

  • Kohler points to rising crime and economic challenges as reasons for a potential conservative shift in Minnesota.
  • He advocates for re-opening mines, building cities in rural areas, supporting blockchain investments, and creating new revenue streams for the state.
  • Notes the importance of Trump’s endorsement and recognizes the divide between grassroots and establishment factions within the local GOP.

2. Rudy Giuliani In-Depth: NYC Corruption, Crime, and Comeback

I. Corruption & Urban Politics (13:46–19:56)

• Nonprofit Corruption, Kickbacks, and “Alien Programs”

  • Giuliani claims major portions of the NYC budget are lost to kickbacks and not-for-profit corruption, alleging these organizations profit more than for-profit companies and are conduits for contracts, nepotism, and city official enrichment.
  • He links public spending on homelessness and migrant programs to political corruption and criticizes the Democratic Party’s dominance in NYC as inherently corrupt, invoking imagery from the Boss Tweed/Tammany Hall era.
  • Notable quote (13:46):

    “One of the biggest phony things in America is not for profits. The not for profits make more profits than the for profits, but it's not reported because they're stealing.” — Rudy Giuliani

• American History and Culture Wars

  • Giuliani makes a pointed critique of “Marxist” influences in American society, museum exhibits about slavery, and claims of anti-American sentiment in elite institutions.
  • He contrasts American efforts (the Civil War) to end slavery with practices in Islamic countries, challenging the narrative around reparations and historical responsibility.
  • Notable quote (15:23):

    “They have a building named after the crookedest and most dangerous damaging politician... Boss Tweed. And they took down the statue of Thomas Jefferson.” — Rudy Giuliani

II. Transforming New York City: Broken Windows, Welfare Reform & Results (24:12–34:56)

• The “Broken Windows” Approach & Crime Reduction

  • Giuliani details NY’s transformation from a city plagued by violent crime and racial tension to one with safer streets, attributing success to policing innovations (like ‘broken windows’), tough-on-crime policies, and focus on career criminals.
    • Notable quote (24:58):

      “At every level, the crime numbers were in a different order of magnitude than they are today… If you can win a war that's five times bigger than the prior war, why can't you win this one?” — Rudy Giuliani

  • Discusses practical crime policy: targeting recidivists, challenging “pro-criminal” bail reforms, and the importance of incarceration for multiple offenders.

• Building Homeownership and Welfare Reform

  • Giuliani explains his push for programs that promote homeownership (especially for minorities), arguing this invests residents in their communities and reduces crime.
  • He candidly addresses controversy over workfare: requiring welfare recipients to work or attend job training, emphasizing its long-term societal benefit:
    • Notable quote (33:53):

      “If you're collecting welfare, you gotta go to work... That second one's even more important, and you're gonna love me more for that one.” — Rudy Giuliani

III. Can NYC Come Back? Leadership, Crisis, and Morality (36:18–46:27)

• NYC’s Post-Pandemic Crisis and Path Forward

  • Giuliani laments post-COVID NYC: rising crime, faltering city services, leadership failures, and what he perceives as pervasive corruption. Criticizes current mayors for lack of courage to challenge their parties and for not working cooperatively across party lines.
  • Offers a historical comparison to his work with Governor George Pataki, praising joint solutions during crises as a model for effective government response.
  • Notable quote (44:04):

    “If something went wrong… his staff would have blamed me, my staff would have blamed him, and we never would have resolved it. Now if it goes wrong, we both have to defend it.” — Rudy Giuliani

• Legacy, Accountability, and the Importance of Morality

  • Reflects on programs, setbacks, and ultimately the gratitude he receives from New Yorkers who benefited from his policies—especially his push for workfare and homeownership.
  • Stresses the significance of moral leadership, the need for faith in public life, and the dangers of removing God from American society:
    • Notable quote (45:49):

      “You throw God out, you can't have morality… Most people need God.” — Rudy Giuliani

3. Featured Segment: American-Made Products with Switch2USA (20:41–22:37)

• Mission & Economic Patriotism
  • Maria promotes Switch2USA, emphasizing American manufacturing and supply chains, framing consumer choice as a way to “defund” globalist investment giants (BlackRock, Vanguard, State Street).
  • The service offers discounted wellness, cleaning, and food products, supporting “patriot” causes and community economic development.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On “Workfare”:

  “Do you know they come up to me now sometime… and say, 'I was in your work fair program. I hated you. It was the best thing that ever happened.'”— Rudy Giuliani (41:02)

• On Party Loyalties:

  “Why did I do that? Because I care about my country and my city more than the Republican Party or my political church or... my political future as doing a good job.” — Rudy Giuliani (30:20)

• On God and Morality:

  “You throw God out, you can't have morality… Maybe you're special and you can figure out how to be very moral and high minded and contributory without God. Most people need God.” — Rudy Giuliani (45:49)

• On Political Courage:

  “Adams is a real tragedy. Adams... has the right idea and most of the time doesn't have the courage to implement it because the Democrat Party will cut his, you know... finally, now he's free, but it's too late.” — Rudy Giuliani (37:04)

Conclusion & Closing Messages

The episode oscillates between sharp political critique and detailed policy recollections, arguing for outsider business leadership, a revival of traditional American values, and practical, results-driven urban policy. Giuliani’s stories underline a belief that transformative change requires moral clarity, bipartisanship, and the courage to confront entrenched interests, while Kohler’s campaign is positioned as a grassroots alternative to established political machines.

For Further Listening

• Next week: Full-length 9/11 remembrance episode and extended Rudy Giuliani interview on emergency management and leadership during crisis (see preview at 12:12 and 36:18).
• For information on Brad Kohler’s campaign: visit bradkohler.com (09:15).
• “Switch to USA” for American-made products: switch2usa.com (22:09).

This summary captures the main content and tone of the episode, with key timestamps for major discussion shifts and integrated speaker-attributed quotations.