Breaking Point with David Zere - September 27, 2025

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Podcast Summary

Real America's Voice – Breaking Point with David Zere

Episode Date: September 27, 2025
Main Theme:
This episode of “Breaking Point with David Zere” centers on the aftermath and significance of Charlie Kirk’s death, featuring live reporting from his memorial in Phoenix. The episode explores themes of civil dialogue, the current “psychiatric problem” among American youth, breakdowns in societal values, and how political narratives are shaping national discourse. It includes expert commentary (notably with Dr. Carole Lieberman) and extensive “man-on-the-street” interviews with attendees from across the U.S. and Canada, offering grassroots perspectives on culture, family, faith, and the future of political debate.

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Episode Structure

• Reflections on the Charlie Kirk Memorial ([01:19]–[04:28])
• Guest Interview: Dr. Carol Lieberman on American Society ([04:31]–[13:10])
• Legal Analyst Keith Gross: Politics & Violence ([16:06]–[24:31])
• On the Ground: Memorial Attendee Interviews ([27:48]–[50:32])
• Final Commentary and Community Message ([50:33]–[52:39])

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

Remembering Charlie Kirk: A Turning Point ([01:19]–[04:28])

• Host David Zier’s Firsthand Account:

  • Describes an unprecedented turnout: “Over 100,000 people closing the freeway entrance at 4 in the morning, 5 in the morning. It was just the most amazing thing you’ve ever seen.”
  • Emphasizes the loss: “The world is missing Charlie Kirk and people like him… he’ll sorely, sorely be missed.”
  • Assigns the continuing leadership of Turning Point to Erica Kirk: “She’s a force, and she’s a juggernaut.” ([03:55])

• Societal Concerns Introduced:

  • “Too many young men and women are lost souls, whether it’s their parents, the nanny state, drugs, being told they can become a man at 14 or a woman at 13…” ([04:17])
  • Discusses the irreversibility of certain decisions (e.g., SSRIs, surgery)

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Understanding America’s “Psychiatric Problem”

Guest: Dr. Carol Lieberman, “America’s Psychiatrist”
([04:28]–[13:10])

• Memorial Reflections:

  • “On the positive side, the people who spoke on his behalf… they showed whoever was watching, you know, and there were millions, right?... they saw that they had such a heart… they showed another side of them.” ([05:39])
  • “These are not Gestapo people and this is not Hitler and all of the other names that they like to call us… In fact, these are people who really cared...” ([06:14])

• Political Language and Dehumanization:

  • “There’s this trend… started… during the end of the… presidential campaign… all they could do was just call Trump names. And that, I think, started… the groundswell… where people are continuing to call good people… Gestapo, calling them… these horrendous words, the worst of the worst.” ([06:23])

• Roots of Social Dysfunction:

  • Youth Indoctrination: “Kids starting in preschool even are taught these kind of leftist sort of beliefs…” ([08:07])
  • Lack of Parental Engagement: “Parents are not being as involved with their kids as they should be. There’s no dinner in most homes, no family dinner.” ([08:38])
    • Missed opportunity for parents to guide, inquire, and intervene
  • Social Media Influence: “Things and ideas get magnified on social media… [and] mainstream media just… drives it home…” ([09:07])

• Violence Attribution:

  • Dr. Lieberman distinguishes between mental illness and “maniacal” or “evil” behavior, noting that both may be at play in contemporary violence ([08:07]).
  • On hero-making: “They see these [shooters] as people being heroes… They want to be looked at as the Charlie Kirk of the left party.” ([09:38])

• Breakdown in Respect and Authority:

  • Increased disrespect in school, rooted in home environment and poor parental discipline: “The disrespect that kids bring to school… shows what they’re learning at home… They’re not pledging allegiance to the flag.” ([10:52])

• Final Thoughts - Urgency for Action:

  • “This is an emergency. Everybody has to come together and work on it… There needs to be consequences for these actions. And parents need to wake up.” ([11:54])
  • “Our country is going… to continue to go to hell unless something major happens…” ([12:12])

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Politics, Media, and Violence

Guest: Keith Gross, Legal Analyst
([16:06]–[24:31])

• Host David Zier’s Framing:

  • Discusses ‘maniacal’ political provocation, “fomenting and antagonizing the right and fomenting violence out there” ([16:07])
  • Mentions media controversies, e.g. Jimmy Kimmel’s comments: “Purposely lying and saying the kid was a MAGA kid, MAGA supporter who murdered Charlie Kirk, in a way.” ([17:22])

• Gross’s Perspective:

  • “Absolutely, that is what a lot of these folks are doing. They’re making statements that they know are likely to rile people up and encourage violence.” ([16:44])
  • On mental illness: “If you’re able to go out and cause major harm to people, you need to be held responsible…” ([17:03])
  • On gun control rhetoric: “Every time there’s a shooting, what’s the first thing the Democrats do? Oh, we need gun control. They don’t want to worry about locking up criminals… But then when there’s a criminal act, they say, ah, let’s blame the guns.” ([19:15])

• Societal Devolution & Ideological Division:

  • Host: “It’s a combination of a devolution of Our society… breakdown of the family, screen time, you name it. There’s so many factors, but all that can be easily exploitable.” ([19:37])
  • Gross: “There’s this Marxist communist movement… driven by leftist ideology that wants to divide people by class… by any identity class you can come up with… but our Constitution was designed for a moral people who want to do the right thing.” ([20:10])
  • On American exceptionalism: “Our whole system of government is an anomaly in the world… with a constrained government that can’t go outside the bounds of the Constitution.” ([21:21])

• Charlie Kirk’s Lasting Impact:

  • “That’s what Charlie Kirk made his whole career doing… It’s their duty to grab the torch and keep that freedom alive. We’ve got to make sure that 10,000 people pick up that microphone because we’ve got to keep that freedom alive.” ([21:38])

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Memorial Attendee Voices: “On the Ground”

([27:48]–[50:32])

Overarching Atmosphere & Testimonials:

• Extraordinary Turnout:

  • Host describes the scene at sunrise: “It’s 4:48 in the morning and the traffic is like miles and miles and miles long. Well over a hundred thousand expected here today.” ([29:12])

• Grassroots Reflections:

  • Many attendees say they came “from all over,” including California, Oregon, Colorado, Connecticut, Canada, and Arizona ([29:36], [45:01]).

Sample Interview Highlights:

• Reflecting on Charlie Kirk’s Values:

  • “I like his honesty… I like his Christian values. I like what he stands for.” ([30:05])
  • “The way Charlie lived his life… made his mission more credible. Living that life. Putting his money where his mouth is.” ([35:49])

• On the Power of Civil Debate:

  • “We needed someone with a voice… He had a way to do it. He definitely did. Not many people can sit there without losing their cool confronted with some of these people, some of them may be on the brink of mental illness. I’m not that guy.” ([31:22])

• Parental and Societal Concerns:

  • “With the schools… they’re on computers 90% of the day. We need to get our kids less screen time. Let’s get them reading and writing again.” ([32:32])
  • “We see the youngsters so screwed up. Maybe their families aren’t so great. Children getting indoctrinated in college, and he [Charlie Kirk] helped fight that.” ([44:15])

• Personal Impact:

  • “He turned two of our daughters lives around. They were very into drugs and drinking and atheists, and they started listening to him, and they changed their entire [life].” ([43:43])
  • “Especially he was born the same year as me, so that was really cool.” ([47:49])

• Cross-border Perspective:

  • “I’m Ryan from Toronto, Canada… I believe in the right to free speech, and I don’t think you should be murdered. Do you have free speech in Canada? No.” ([45:01])

• Generational Impact:

  • “Charlie Kirk was such an inspiration to so many young people… such a loss not only for our movement, but for the Christian community, and it’s just devastating.” ([49:48])

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Higher-Level Commentary

• The Challenge of Succession:

  • Host: “Who can replace him on the debate stage, right?” ([41:57])
  • Attendee: “I think Erica is good to be a juggernaut as the CEO of Turning Point, but I don’t know how you replace someone like him.” ([50:20])

• American Renewal:

  • Host’s closing advice: “It’s a rough world out there. If the United States can’t get our act together internally, how are we going to fight foreign threats?… Time to start raising men again in the United States. And by men, I mean men and women. To be responsible adults at 15, at 17, at 19, and not be all screwed up… Take back your school district. Take back your country.” ([51:37])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

“The impact that Charlie Kirk has left on the planet is immeasurable… His legacy will be that millions of people will get more informed and be able to debate and engage in civil dialogue because of him.”
— David Zier (03:05)

“They saw that they had such a heart… these are not Gestapo people… these are people who really cared about Charlie Kirk, care about America, care about them.”
— Dr. Carol Lieberman (05:39)

“There’s this trend, this sick trend… when you keep using words like [‘Gestapo’], they become devoid of any meaning.”
— Dr. Carol Lieberman (07:09)

“It’s a combination of parents not being as involved, no family dinner… social media… mainstream media driving it home… And then they want to be heroes. They want to be looked at as the Charlie Kirk of the left party.”
— Dr. Carol Lieberman (09:07)

“If you’re able to go out and cause major harm to people, you need to be held responsible, whether that means you’re locked in a mental facility forever or go to prison.”
— Keith Gross (17:03)

“Our whole system of government was designed for a moral people who want to do the right thing. And as we move towards a more low trust society… we’re seeing that reflected in our society now.”
— Keith Gross (20:10)

“We needed someone with a voice… He had the way to do it.”
— Marcelino, Attendee (31:20)

“He turned two of our daughters lives around… they changed their entire [life].”
— Lori, Attendee (43:43)

“We need people like that that are willing to debate. And when the person who wants to just sit down and talk about it dies, you know, there’s an issue with the world.”
— Ryan, Attendee from Toronto (46:10)

“I love the truth, and I love that they’re just down to earth and they’re real and they provide a sense of comedic relief after a long day, which is actually really enjoying.”
— Rochelle, Attendee (49:30)

“Time to start raising men again in the United States. And by men, I mean men and women. To be responsible adults at 15, at 17, at 19, and not be all screwed up and not have all this garbage thrown in their face all the time.”
— David Zier (51:37)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [01:19] – David Zier on the scale and feeling at the Charlie Kirk memorial
• [04:28] – Dr. Carol Lieberman segment begins
• [07:25] – Discussion of “Gestapo” language, left-right violence, mental illness, and evil
• [11:54] – Lieberman’s urgent call-to-action: “This is an emergency. Everybody has to come together.”
• [16:06] – Legal analysis with Keith Gross on political violence and media narratives
• [20:10] – Gross on declining societal trust and America’s founding values
• [27:48] – “Man on the street” memorial attendee interviews begin
• [31:20] – Marcelino on Charlie’s composure and civil debate skills
• [43:43] – Lori on Charlie’s influence turning her daughters’ lives around
• [46:10] – Ryan from Toronto on free speech and Charlie Kirk’s importance
• [49:30] – Rochelle on the impact and truthfulness of the RAV community
• [51:37] – Zier’s closing call for renewed parenting and American values

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Takeaways

• Charlie Kirk’s loss is framed as a seismic shift for the American conservative, Christian, and youth engagement movement, with profound grassroots resonance.
• Societal issues explored include family breakdown, youth alienation, political indoctrination, and the amplification of division by media and authority figures.
• Both expert guests and on-the-ground attendees stress the urgency of restoring civil debate, parental engagement, and traditional values.
• Host David Zier consistently urges personal and collective action, warning that without it, further societal and national decline is inevitable.

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For listeners seeking a deep dive into the current conservative zeitgeist—particularly grief, resilience, and the search for new leadership post-Charlie Kirk—this episode stands as a vivid, on-the-ground snapshot and emotional touchstone.

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Because let's be real, your music deserves it. The future of sound is now with LG XBoom and for a limited time, save [e-mail] with code Fall25. Bring the Boom XBoom. Welcome, everybody. You're watching Breaking Point on Real America's Voice News. I returned from Phoenix the other day after a very, very moving weekend. What happened in Phoenix was unparalleled in modern US History. Not since the death of MLK have we seen anything like this. And to fill up a stadium and an arena at once. The impact that Charlie Kirk has left on the planet is immeasurable. And the world is missing Charlie Kirk and people like him. And his legacy will be that millions of people will get more informed and be able to debate and engage in civil dialogue because of him. Because he shredded everybody on these college campuses. Because most young people and most people aren't able to engage. And then they get frustrated and sometimes they get violent. But the violence isn't coming from the right. The violence is coming from the left. And I have interviews with people who attended the memorial. I was outside the stadium in the arena with Real America's Voice. Our whole team was inside and I was amongst the crowds. Over 100,000 people closing the freeway entrance at 4 in the morning, 5 in the morning. It was just the most amazing thing you've ever seen. And he'll sorely, sorely be missed. I don't know, you know, who will take up that mantle. You know, Erica Kirk is going to be running Turning Point, which is awesome. And she's a force, and she's a juggernaut. And we're very hopeful, you know, that more people will rise up and stand in the face of what's going on. But I'm concerned because there is a psychiatric problem in America, and too many young men and women are lost souls, whether it's their parents, the nanny state, drugs, being told they can become a man at 14 or a woman at 13. And there's no turning back once they go on these SSRIs or have modifications done through surgery. And here to discuss what's going on in America, we always love having her. The show. She's America's psychiatrist and the host of the terrorist therapist podcast, Dr. Carol Lieberman. Welcome back to the show.

[A]

Thank you so much.

[C]

Yeah, I mean, I don't want to be too depressing, because, you know, the celebration of life for Charlie Kirk was actually a revival. Everybody there was so great. Like, great. These are the people you would leave your kids with, you know, these are the people who you can trust in society, you know. You know, what's going on out there. Why are we in this state of affairs right now?

[A]

Well, first of all, just to mention about the memorial, I watched most of it, and, you know, it really was heartbreaking, of course. And I met Charlie, for he was a guest on my podcast. And so I felt a connection. And on the positive side, the people who spoke on his behalf, of course, President Trump and J.D. vance and a whole bunch of people from the administration. The positive thing is that they showed whoever was watching, you know, and there were millions, right? I don't remember the exact number. There were a lot of people watching it.

[C]

100 million.

[A]

Yes. I thought it was something like that. And so they got to see. Not just. They got to see these people in a different kind of setting. In other words, not just talking about policy and things like that, but they saw that they had such a heart and they saw another side of them. And I think that that is good. I think it's got people to understand that these are not Gestapo people and this is not Hitler and all of the other names that they like to call us. In fact, these are people who really care, cared about Charlie Kirk, care about America, care about them. And it is. There's this trend, this sick trend, and I think it started at Least this current trend started primarily during the end of the. Well, during the campaign, you know, the presidential campaign, where especially after Biden had to leave and Kamala Harris came in and they realized that there really wasn't. There wasn't a comparison, that they couldn't say what policies they were going to put in that would make people happy. You know, all they could do would just call. Would be. Was to just call Trump names. And that, I think, started it, you know, at least started the groundswell that we are now seeing where people are continuing to call people who good people, you know, from Charlie Kirk to ice calling them, they're calling them Gestapo, calling them, you know, these words, these horrendous words, the worst of the worst. And when you keep using the words like that, they become devoid of any meaning.

[C]

Yes. So, okay, so the word of the week and all the talk shows like Rush Limbaugh used to say is Gestapo. Right. And they're fermenting violence on the left. There's no doubt about it in my mind, the msm. Mike, I have two questions. You know, how much of this with the people whose heads are exploding and couldn't debate Charlie Kirk or, you know, are acting out or shooting people? How much of it is mental illness and how much of it is like conscientious, maniacal behavior? Right. Is there a difference between being mentally ill and evil? Are they mutually exclusive or are they one in the same?

[A]

Well, there are various combinations and permutations. But, you know, certainly one of the biggest problems we have is at the schools that kids starting in preschool even are taught these kind of leftist sort of beliefs and are taught to, you know, to change, to become a man if you're a woman, and vice versa, to be taught the, you know, you're either the oppressed or the oppressed, all these horrible ideas. And when they are taught these things super young, it becomes part of them. And then, of course, you know, then they hear all these names and, and all of that, and they're looking for a purpose. I mean, you know, there is a lot of mental illness out there now, more than there was. And it's a combination of things. It's a combination of parents. Not really. I mean, you hear helicopter parents, but really, parents are not being as involved with their kids as they should be. There's no dinner in most homes, no family dinner. You know, where, where they used to talk about that was a time when you would ask your child, you know, how'd you do today? What happened in school? All those things to find out if, if they're upset about something. None of that is happening in most family homes. Then of course, social media, you know, the, the, the things, the sayings and the, the ideas get magnified on social media and people want to get more likes. And, and then, you know, and then the regular media, the mainstream media just, you know, drives it home to these people, you know, that you. And then, of course, when they see the people like, they see like currently, you know, the, the shooter of Charlie Kirk and now the shooter in Texas of ice, they see these people taking out their frustrations or doing. Not just even that. They don't see it as that. They see it as people being heroes. You know, kind of like Charlie Kirk was a hero and he stood up for all of this. And, you know, we talked about, was talked about at the memorial and all of that. These people want to be heroes. They want to be looked at as the Charlie Kirk of the left party.

[C]

So. Okay, so how much of it. We only have about two and a half minutes left. How much of it is the fact that they're whiny brats and never got a boom boom on the fanny when they were a kid or something? You know? Like, is it a combination of that? Yeah, the desensitization from video games being on their phone all the time. I mean, it's multiple factors. Right.

[A]

Island Video games is a big factor. And, you know, just like when we see what's happening in school, not only, okay, they're teaching them bad things, but the disrespect that kids bring to school, I mean, that shows what they're learning at home. They're not learning about, you know, to respect your teacher or to respect life, to respect your society. They're not, they're not pledging allegiance to the flag. I mean, all of these things. But, but what's important, you know, they're so violent in school, and all of that comes from home, from parents not teaching them how you behave or how you should behave in society.

[C]

There's no doubt about it. You know, I know I talk about a lot on the show, but I didn't allow my kids have cell phones until high school, and there was no social media until they graduated. I think everyone needs to do that. And I don't have TV in their room except for like a VHS machine to watch Disney at the time when Disney wasn't crazy. But. All right, I'll give you the last word. We got a minute, a minute and 20. Tell us your final thoughts and where can people follow you?

[A]

First of all this is an emergency. Everybody has to come together and work on it. People need to be punished. There needs to be consequences for these actions. And parents need to wake up and realize, you know, of course some of the parents these days, you know, have some of these thoughts too. They were schooled in the same kinds of things. But they need to really recognize that this, our country is going, is going to continue to go to hell unless something major happens because, you know, some major love for themselves. I mean, like the trans people, it's all about self loathing, you know, they don't want, like they don't love themselves for who they are. They want to change. Okay, so, so everybody has to kind of recognize the problem and do something. Each person could do something to try to fix it. Where can you find me? Terrorist therapist.com Expert witness forensicpsychiatrist.com yeah, I.

[C]

Think that the people in power on the left know they have you couple million minions who are off the hook and deranged to fight their battle for them. So it's very sad. It's probably going to escalate before the midterms. Dr. Carol Lieberman, I want to thank you so much for joining us and can I have you back?

[A]

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[C]

All right. Thank you so much for your insight. It's much appreciated. Guys. When I come back, we have a great show for you ahead. I also have interviews that I did outside of State Farm Stadium and the Diamond Desert arena in Phoenix, Arizona for Charlie Kirk. Don't go anywhere.

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Thanks again for joining us. You are watching Breaking Point on Real America's Voice News. Thank you for joining The Rav family. I gotta tell you, Governor Kathy Hochul endorsed Mamdani for mayor of New York City. And people are really freaking out around New York State. And she was at the Ryder cup opening ceremonies the other day and she got booed not only once, but twice. Check this out. You're the worst. You're the worst governor. All right. She really is. I gotta tell you. We can, we can come out of that clip if you want. Yeah. So she's a special kind of governor here in New York State. You know, she has so much contempt for the hard working people here, anyone who owns a business. It's like when Andrew Cuomo, governor, he told us, you know, we're not welcome here if we're conservatives and if we own a gun and if we're religious. And, you know, same thing Obama saying, we cling to our Bibles and our guns and all that. So you know what? The good people are tired of being told they're the bad people and we're not going to take it anymore. And here to discuss what's going on across the country is legal analyst Keith Gross. Welcome to the show, Keith.

[B]

Hey, good to be with you.

[C]

Thank you for joining us so much. A lot to digest in the news cycle. I think what's front and center now is, you know, the pundits, the MSM on the left, the progressives, I think they know what they're doing. I think it's maniacal. Because if somebody has mental illness and they want to hurt somebody. Yeah, you know, you got to be punished for it and stuff. But you can kind of understand a little bit, you know, what's driving them. But isn't it worse if somebody is purposely fomenting and antagonizing the right and fomenting violence out there?

[B]

I mean, absolutely, that is what a lot of these folks are doing. They're making statements that they know are likely to rile people up and encourage violence. You know, when you talk about mental illness, if you're mentally ill, that doesn't mean you shouldn't be held responsible. We saw it with the killer that, you know, killed this girl on the train in Charlotte recently.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

That person was already sent out for a mental health evaluation. But look, look, if you're able to go out and cause major harm to people, you need to be held responsible, whether that means you're locked in a mental facility forever or go to prison. But the people should not be subjected to these sorts of dangers on the streets.

[C]

Yeah, there's no doubt about that. I agree with that. But, you know, I think, I think what's going on out there, even like Jimmy Kimmel, you know, there's no apology for what he did. He knew what he was doing. You know, the stuff he says is so outrageous, but, you know, purposely lying and saying the kid was a MAGA kid, MAGA supporter who murdered Charlie Kirk, in a way. Just getting back from the Charlie Kirk memorial. We're all devastated here in America. The people, the good people never ask for anything, go to work every day and don't want this type of violence. Gavin Newsom saying there won't be an election in 2028. Tell us what's going on.

[B]

I mean, that's just his. Him being desperate for attention. Gavin is so desperate to get people's attention because he thinks he has a shot at running for the presidency in 2028. But he comes out and he says these things that they're just baseless hyperbole. He said he doesn't think there's even gonna be an election for president in 2028, which he knows that's false. But the dangerous thing is some left wing lunatic is gonna think that it's now a righteous act to go. Conservative leaders. That's what's driving this. Leftist violence is caused by leftist ideology. And this encourages those sorts of violent ideologies.

[C]

Yes. And I feel like they're purposely provoking the right, poking at them. They want the good people to retaliate or they want, if, say, there's a mass casualty event, whether it's from the left or the right, which they never are, they want the government to instill like say, martial law, because then they can say, look, you are a fascist or yes, you are author. Is that what they're. Do you think there's any truth to that? That there's an element and the end goal is to achieve that?

[B]

I think that's certainly part of the plan. If you notice every time there's a shooting, what's the first thing the Democrats do? Oh, we need gun control. They don't want to worry about locking up criminals. They keep releasing the criminals time after time. Yeah, Many of these people have been arrested dozens of times for violent crimes. And they keep putting them right back on the streets. But then when there's a criminal act, they say, ah, let's blame the guns.

[C]

Yeah, it's always that way. You're right about that. And you know, we've got all these other issues with this agenda going out there. I think it's a combination of a devolution of Our society moving away from Western civilization, civics, breakdown of the family, screen time, you name it. There's so many factors, but all that maybe can be easily exploitable by people. Right. The left can exploit that. Right.

[B]

They have been exploiting it. You know, there's this Marxist communist movement that's growing in the United States and it's driven by leftist ideology that wants to divide people by class. They want to divide people by any identity class you can come up with. That's why they really thrive on these identity politics. But the real reason that this is effective is because, like you've pointed out, our society's moving in a direction that our Constitution wasn't designed for. Our whole system of government was designed for a moral people who want to do the right thing. And as we move towards a more low trust society, in part because we're importing the people from the third world who have broken paradigms, we're seeing that reflected in our society now.

[C]

Well, that's really profound when you put it like that. Right. Because we were supposed to be, you know, the God fearing people. And you know, the founding Fathers definitely intended that. And it's kind of like the thin blue line. It's fragile. Right. You can't step on it too many times without breaking it. Right. Very, very sensitive issue. Right.

[B]

It's very true. You know, it's a. Our whole system of government is an anomaly in the world. This idea of having freedom and a government by the people with a constrained government that can't go outside the bounds of the Constitution, you know, that's an anomaly and we should really celebrate that. That's what Charlie Kirk made his whole career doing. He was going out, having conversations and helping people understand that it's their duty to grab the torch and keep that freedom alive. We've got to make sure that 10,000 people pick up that microphone because we've got to keep that freedom alive.

[C]

I think it's going to be bigger than that. I think you're going to have. Because now that people are really watching his videos, you know, they just heard the hyperbole before, you know, or they just said, oh, Charlie Kirk, he's at it again, he's on the college campus. But when you watch his videos, which are everywhere now, people realize that he just dismantled these people. Some are crazy, some are uninformed, some are both. Some were informed and civil in their exchange with him. And you know, I think we've never seen anything like that. We've never seen anybody, especially at his age, be able to Pull that off right the way he did, and keep your cool, keep your head. I think he's inspiring a whole generation of people.

[B]

He has absolutely inspired an entire generation. We have to be able to have reasonable conversations with each other about policy differences.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

It's okay to disagree on policy. That's the American way. But we should all agree on a constitutional framework that we should build our government on. And that's the real concern I have lately is that we're seeing the First Amendment. Not so interested. The left doesn't really care about the First Amendment. They think words are violence and that words can be responded to with violence.

[C]

Yeah. Wow. You know, I hope that. I hope that we really find our footing here. It's got to happen fast, too, because I think next summer is going to make George Floyd look like a cakewalk with these midterms because that fight for the House is going to, you know, reverse all of Trump's executive orders. Everything that wasn't codified by Congress yet. Right. It's a real battle ahead. Right.

[B]

They're certainly going to try, but, you know, this time is going to be different. I've got my fingers crossed. And I am hopeful because the president's administration has been working hard to root out corruption in the electoral process. Just today, we saw Harmeet Dhillon file suit against several states because they didn't do a good job of cleaning up their voting rolls.

[C]

Right.

[B]

So we're going to see some real changes in the way our electoral processes happen. It's not going to be as easy for the left to steal elections in 2026.

[C]

No. And I. And I think in 20, it was harder because that all eyes were on them, too. So we're almost out of time here. Where can our viewers follow you? You're very insightful. Thank you.

[B]

I'm on all social media platforms. I'm very active on X at Keith Gross fl. And you can sign up for my [e-mail].

[C]

All right, everybody, Keith Gross, legal analyst. I want to thank you so much for sharing that and I will have you back. Okay.

[B]

Thanks so much.

[C]

All right, everybody, I want to thank you so much. We'll be right back. I've got great man on the street interviews in honor of Charlie Kirk. As countries have walked away in the past few years from the US Dollar, Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, diversify into gold, into birch gold. And for over 5,000 years, gold has withstood inflation, geopolitical turmoil, and stock market crashes. And the great news is you can still get it in fact you can own gold and silver in a tax sheltered retirement account. Birch Gold makes it easy to convert your IRA or 401k into an IRA and precious metals and all you got to do is text the word America, the 989898 to claim your free info kit on gold. With 20 years experience converting IRAs and 401Ks into precious metal IRAs, Birch Gold can help you protect yourself with Gold today by texting the word America to 9898. 98 with an A rating with the Better Business Bureau. Thousands of happy customers and countless 5 star reviews secure your future with gold. Start today with a free info kit. Again, there's no obligation. Check it out. Make the request. Just text the word America to 989898 this is more than news. It's a movement. This revolution of people taking their countries back. A turning point. A chance to be part of something greater than yourself. Scan the QR code and stand with Rev. The story isn't over and neither is.

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One of my favorite things being with Real America's Voice news is not just the great viewers we have, but interacting with them on the ground in about 40 states over the years with the network and that's what drives Real America's voice. Listening to real American voices on the ground. And part of that is the Uber drivers. I love the Uber drivers. You know, most of them are immigrants, legal immigrants. Only been here for a couple of years, but some have been here 20 years and they still can't speak English that well. But I will tell you that more often than not, they are Trump supporters. So I got great videos here. Pulling up to the Memorial Freeway ramp, closed at 5 in the morning, 100,000 plus people. People came from Temecula, California. They came from Canada, they came from Connecticut, they came from all over. Check out these great interviews with the great people on the ground at the Charlie Kirk Memorial de beer. It's 4:48 and we're outside of the State Farm Stadium in Glendale on our way to a church parking lot where we're going to assemble and be brought over for the memorial services, the celebration of life for Charlie Kirk. But it's 4:48 in the morning and the, the traffic is like miles and miles and miles long. Well over a hundred thousand expected here today. I don't think I've ever seen a sea of cars like this this early in the morning anywhere. Do you like Trump? I love it. That's why I vote for him.

[B]

He honest?

[C]

Absolute. He's a builder from Queens, New York. So we're different breeds. Yeah. Hi. You guys came all the way from Temecula?

[A]

We did.

[C]

California. We came here because we believe in what Charlie Kirk is doing and we're proud to be something, part of something bigger than us. Have you ever seen traffic like this in your life? No, thankfully we have not. The traffic is unbelievable. That's why we got out and started walking. Right, right. What's your name, ma'? Am? Michelle. Hi, Michelle. And what's your name? Gavin. Hi, Gavin. Well, what about your family? What was the message at Charlie Kir? I liked his honesty.

[A]

I like his Christian values. I like what he stands for.

[C]

Yeah. I mean, and his knowledge, just the impact unparalleled. Yeah. Unbelievable. That was, that was a really big.

[A]

Thing and I'm just, I'm just glad.

[C]

That we get to be part of it. Positive message for a youth. Absolutely. Okay. Everything. I just, my Uber driver was a Muslim from Somalia. He's like, I love Charlie Kirk because he's from a war torn country. They know the suffering. They don't, they don't hate the United States when they come here on there. But you know what? I'm in the military. I retired from the military. And I tell people all the time.

[A]

If you spent any time overseas, you.

[C]

Understand what a great. You see the poverty, you see the. Yeah. And people just take it for granted. They're so entitled. Yeah. I was in Moscow. I saw the bread lines in 86 when it was the still communist, you.

[A]

Know, in the Navy in 82.

[C]

Wow. Right there. Yeah. An incredible day, everyone. The world is missing and hurting today. Yeah. Yeah. Good luck, guys. An emotional day for all of us, I think. All right. Thank you for coming on. The people here are the greatest. Came off from all over the United States. You want to say hi to the audience? How are you? Hey, I'm doing great. What's your name? My name is Marcelino. Where are you from, Marcelino? I'm from. I live in Buckeye, but I'm from Lamar, Colorado. Why'd you come out today? To support Charlie and what he stood for and, you know, to hang with some great people and that believe in. What drew you? What drew you to him and say, the conservative movement. I feel like the good people are tired of being told they're the bad people. What do you think? Yeah. And that's it. We needed someone with a voice. We leaned towards him, you know, with his peaceful. He had a way to do it. He had. He had the way to do it. Right. He definitely did. You know, not many people can sit there without losing their cool. Confronted with some of these people, some of them may be on the brink of mental illness. I'm not that guy. Yeah. No, he definitely had a way to calm the crowd. You have children? I do. And what do you think they see in schools and stuff? Is there a breakdown of the families out there? You know, how do we keep our kids on track? Well, I think one thing that with the schools is we have to, you know, vet more of the teachers because they have, you know, they're teaching the wrong things. You know, they're not teaching reading, writing anymore. They're on computers 90% of the day. We need to get our kids less screen time. Less screen time. Let's get them reading and writing again. Yeah. I don't think kids read any books anymore. Not at all. Not even the good book, Right. Well, it's important to spend time with your kids. We spend time with our grandkids, reading to them. Really, really important there. Marcelino, I want to thank you for coming on today. Hey, thank you. I appreciate it. God bless, everybody. Give our audience a last word about Charlie Kirk and how do we go forward? Well, I tell you what, you know, I see hats that say no king on Earth. And one thing he mentioned is we do have a king in the United States, and it's Jesus Christ. All right. Means a lot, Marcelino. Thank you, sir. Hey, another great patriot. Real American voices on the ground. What's your name? Sir. Mike. Hi, Mike. You watch Rav quite often? Yeah. You were saying only five, six hours a day. Right.

[A]

There are a few days that I missed. All right, yeah.

[C]

Incredible day here. Were you in the stadium or the arena? We got in at the arena. Good. Still pretty packed in there, right? It was, yeah. Yeah. Have you ever been to a venue where a stadium and an arena were filled for one person together? One person. The last time I was in arena was when the who was playing the Forum that isn't even standing. Yeah, well, some of the Trump rallies were louder than the who, but, yeah, it's pretty incredible day today. Great Americans came from all over the country. People came from all over the world. What was your biggest takeaway?

[A]

The tributes to Charlie and the people speaking them, many of whom I've seen.

[C]

For quite some time. Yeah. And the amount of openness of coming out and expressing from this. Their self. Yeah. Their views and relationship with Jesus. Different side than your typical political speeches. Right. Amongst the many that were so much so. I remember Tulsi Gabbard.

[A]

I remember seeing her on the stage.

[C]

For the Democratic Party the last time they let people compete, that she was the only D.C. person I saw on the stage out of 19 people that she was the only democr. The only decent one that I could imagine voting for in the Democratic Party. Yeah. I think a lot of people feel that way. I remember covering her in New Hampshire. She was wildly popular, even with our, you know, crowd up there that were, you know, MAGA people. I wanted to ask you what your biggest takeaway from today was. How are you going to remember Charlie Kirk? The way Charlie lived his life and how much his. His living his life that way and choosing to stay on the path he was on. How many other people? Yeah. That. It was like Samson lighting a fire. The tales of the foxes. Yeah. And made admission more credible. Right. Living the, you know, living that life. Right. Putting his money where his mouth is. Right.

[A]

And much like Steve Gregg, he has.

[C]

Lived a life worth emulating through. Through thick and thin, through hard times and good times. Spell your name for the camera. M I K E L. Michael. Michael, where you from? San Diego. All right, that's great. Thank you so much, Michael, for coming on. Don't go anywhere. When we come back, I have more great interviews on the ground outside of State Farm Stadium in Glendale, Arizona, for the Charlie Kirk Memorial. I'm so excited to have Maria from switch to USA.com with us. Switch, the number two. USA.com. she's been a longtime supporter of the show and we're so grateful. Maria, how are you?

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I'm well. Thank you for having me, David. And I'm very excited to be here and let everyone know what's been going on.

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People came from all over for Charlie Kirk this past weekend. It was very moving day out there outside of the State Farm Stadium and the desert Diamond Arena. 100,000 people packed in there between the two venues. Tens of thousands turned away. Really amazing. But they came from all over the country. I was surprised. A lot of people from Oregon, you know, Portland's a mess. But like Steve Bannon said in a broadcast the other day when we were pitching back and forth from the parking lot interviewing people, you know, he said basically it's western Idaho, you know, the conservative parts of Oregon. But we have great stuff here. Check out these interviews. So you guys watch Real America's Voice?

[A]

We do every day.

[C]

What do you like about it? Did you watch a Charlie Kurt show on there? Yeah. Yes we did. Usually replays. Cuz I was at work at 9:30 when he was on. But we watch all the shows. Big loss, right? Horrible loss. Yeah. Hopefully Erica will carry the torch. But you know, who can replace him on the debate stage, Right?

[A]

Exactly. Yeah.

[C]

We got a lot of work to do. Right. What do tell us about your community and your area? Do you think people get to magnitude of what happened? It's fairly liberal where we live, so some of us, for sure, absolutely. I think as time goes by, people realize that he was a peaceful guy, right? Yeah, absolutely. You know, never preach violence. Always wanted the other side, Right. Wasn't afraid to challenge it, right? No, not afraid at all. He really, he just, you know, spoke to the morals of society. Society. And we need to embrace that for sure. All right, well I want to thank you for joining us coming on Real America's Voice and special day. Right? Yeah. Tough day. Yeah, Tough week. Yes. Yeah, yeah. All right. Still Tens of thousands online on the overflow. A lot of rap fans in the audience. How are you, ma'? Am?

[A]

I'm great.

[C]

Watch Real America's Voice.

[A]

I sure do.

[C]

Why did you make the trip and where'd you come from? From today.

[A]

We came from Oregon and made the trip so that we can bathe in all the people that understand what the country lost.

[C]

Unbelievable. How do you do it in Oregon? What's going on in Portland?

[A]

You don't want to know what's going on in Portland? I don't want to know what's going on in Portland.

[C]

We need Trump there to go. You watch rap?

[B]

Oh, we do.

[C]

We do every day. What do you like about it? And Charlie Kirk, too? Oh, yeah. It's a big void. Right. But, oh, yeah, huge loss. What's your name? John. What's your name?

[B]

Lori.

[C]

And where are you from again?

[A]

We're from Oregon. We're from the middle.

[C]

Oh, wow. So a little more conservative out there, right?

[A]

Yes. We got our red spaces.

[C]

Yeah. All right. It's kind of like our version of safe spaces. That's what's going on.

[A]

We got our red space.

[C]

What did you like the most about Charlie?

[A]

Well, he turned two of our daughters lives around. They were very into drugs and drinking and atheists, and they started listening to him, and they changed their entire.

[C]

Oh, that's incredible. Charlie Kirk meant so much to so many people out there. You know, is there another figure in the last 50 years or so that had the impact of Charlie Kirk passing?

[A]

No, absolutely not.

[C]

You know, the older generation love Charlie Kirk as well. Why is that? Because we see the youngsters so screwed up. Maybe their families aren't so great.

[A]

Children getting indoctrinated in college, and he helped fight that. He found the magic key to be.

[C]

Able to help that. Yeah. Because of his way. Right? He had a way to do it.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Very. Not everyone can do that.

[A]

Very calm, very respectful, very effective.

[C]

My blood pressure is 300 over 200 when I'm arguing with somebody. Right. Yeah. He didn't get like that. No, no. It's really meaningful. All right, I want to thank you so much. Give us your last thoughts for. About Charlie Koop Kirk.

[A]

We just wish his family well, and we hope that everything goes on like planned. And we keep getting all these groups, and it just builds bigger, and we push all that hate out of here.

[C]

How about you, sir? Hope he's just watching us from heaven. Yeah. Definitely went up.

[A]

Yep. We lost a great man.

[C]

All right. Thank you so much for joining us. It means a lot.

[A]

Thank you.

[C]

What's your name? You came a long way, right? Yep. Ryan from Toronto, Canada. Ryan from Toronto, Canada. I was a big Charlie Kirk supporter. I believe in the right to free speech, and I don't think you should be murdered. Do you have free speech in Canada? No. And we have mass immigration. We don't really have many illegals. We just pretty much let everyone in and give them residency or visas, and then eventually they become citizens. And what part of Canada are you? Toronto, Ontario. So about three hours from Detroit, two hours from Buffalo, New York. How's Kearney compared to the last guy? They're both terrible because they're liberal. So the country as a whole, we would call it blue if you were using American terms, but my province of Ontario is red, so I'm glad I live in at least a red province. Yeah. Wow. What was it the most that you liked about Charlie? Just the free speech, and he was open for just healthy debates. Like, he would listen to people's view and come back with. With actual valid arguments. Yeah. Reasoned. Yeah. Yeah. What's the last week been like with Charlie Kirk gone for you?

[A]

It's been really hard because he's someone that I really looked up to, and we need people like that that are willing to debate. And when the person who wants to just sit down and talk about it dies, you know, there's an issue with the world.

[C]

Yeah, for sure. Even Van Jones came out as adversary and said, Charlie reached out to me the day before he died and said he wanted to sit down with me. You know, it's really hard.

[A]

Yeah. Until I met my husband a year and a half ago, I wasn't political at all. I was kind of just had different opinions about different things.

[C]

What brought you to him?

[A]

To my husband.

[C]

To Charlie Kirk.

[A]

Oh, to Charlie Kirk. Just what he does. Just going to schools and reaching out.

[C]

To the young people, you know, that's.

[A]

Gonna be the next generation that's gonna lead us.

[C]

What's your name? Oh, John. Hi, John. Where are you guys from from? We're from California, but we just recently.

[B]

Moved here for my brother.

[C]

Okay. And you follow Charlie? Yeah, I have for a few years. Were you a turning point at all? No. I touched so many lives, even if they weren't. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. So what about the people around you in your daily life? Did people get what Charlie Kirk was doing? Because I feel like after his death, now people are really watching the videos and they're realizing how impactful and people. I think it's getting more playtime than Any other time? You know, all his old videos, even five years ago, you know, everyone's watching them now, so people are like, hey, what? There was nothing wrong with this guy, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

What's your name?

[A]

Hannah.

[C]

Hi, Hannah. Where are you from?

[A]

I'm here. Litch Hill Park.

[C]

Oh, wow. Were you involved with Turning Point at all?

[A]

I wasn't. I was a big follower of Charlie, though.

[C]

And you think he had a big impact on the younger generation? Gen Z, Millennial. Yeah, absolutely.

[A]

Especially he was born the same year as me, so that was really cool.

[C]

What was it? You know, our family's missing something. Are our young kids missing something?

[A]

Whether it's faith, family time, too much screen time.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

They need to get back to God.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, there's no doubt about that. We have with us Rob Camden and Rochelle. Where are you from? We are from Tucson, Arizona. Great. So you're out here to honor Charlie Kirk, right? Right. Yeah, we are. So we got up early, we drove, you know, a good hour, about two hours to get here, and we stood in line for a couple hours, but the crowds are just so, so strong. Yeah. And my back is so weak that I'm not going to be able to hang on. Have you ever seen a crowd this big? I have not. I have not. I know my wife has been to a Trump rally, and it was big, but I don't think it. Hi, Rochelle. Hi.

[A]

Yeah, I was at the Goodyear rally.

[C]

Oh, okay. That was you in 2020.

[A]

So that was really big. But not like this.

[C]

No, I. There's probably. I would say 200,000, 300,000 people converged onto Phoenix to come here. This is the overflow crowd. I don't know if the audience can see it in the background, but you've been watching real America's Voice news for a long time. I heard you're 6B fans. Yes, we are. We are. We have been with Studio 6B for probably a good five years now. We came from Fox News, and we just loved Studio 6B and the guys. What do you like about it? I love the truth, and I love the fact that they're just down to earth and they're real and they provide a sense of comedic relief after a long day, which is actually really enjoying. Yeah, there's no doubt about that. How about for you, Rochelle?

[A]

Well, I'm a conspiracy theorist, so I'm all about Rick. I always agree with what he says.

[C]

So wonderful. Camden, do you watch with your parents? Yes, I do. They're a lot of fun. They've been Doing it a long time here. What impact has Charlie Kirk's passing have had on your family?

[A]

Oh, it's been devastating. As Christians, he was such a voice and such a disciple for Christ and how he attached to the kids, and he made an impact on all those college kids, and it was such a loss, not only for our movement, but for the Christian community, and it's just devastating.

[C]

What grade are you in?

[A]

Sixth grade.

[C]

Does anybody talk about it in school? No. Okay. People going about their business. Yep. Charlie Kirk was such an inspiration to so many young people. You know, where do we go from here?

[A]

Rochelle, I don't know how you replace someone like him. I think Erica is good to be a juggernaut as the CEO of Turning Point, but I don't know how you.

[C]

Replace someone like him.

[A]

I don't.

[C]

I think a lot of people feel that way. I want to thank you so much for coming out and paying your respects for Charlie Kirk. We got Rob Kanden, Rochelle from Tucson, Arizona, and give us the last word. Last word is we love Studio 6B. Want to say hi to Damon, to Slick Rick, to Rick Delgado, Paul, Vinnie, Mac. Yeah, we just love you guys. Kevin Downey. Kevin Downey. Yep. All of you so appreciate all the. The work that you do. And Fran and Aaron in the control room. Yeah, exactly. Fred and Aaron. All right. Thank you so much for joining us. God bless you. I know it's early in the morning. I don't want to ruin your weekend, but there's this toxic cocktail out there of lousy parenting indoctrination in our schools, too much screen time, mental illness, add, adhd, whatever they want to call it. I think a lot of it's baloney, you know, but how do you parse it all out and make sure that this does not keep happening in our country? We have too much to fight for, and we have too much to lose. And it's a bit. It's a rough world out there. If the United States can't get our act together internally, how are we going to fight foreign threats? You know, only one third of our kids qualify for the military. Now we have serious issues. Time to start raising men again in the United States. And by men, I mean men and women. To be responsible adults at 15, at 17, at 19, and not be all screwed up and not have all this garbage thrown in their face all the time. Take back your school district. Take back your country. I'm David Zier. I want to thank you so much for watching Breaking Point today. And we'll see you next weekend.

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