Podcast Summary

Real America's Voice – Breaking Point with David Zere

Episode Date: September 27, 2025
Main Theme:
This episode of “Breaking Point with David Zere” centers on the aftermath and significance of Charlie Kirk’s death, featuring live reporting from his memorial in Phoenix. The episode explores themes of civil dialogue, the current “psychiatric problem” among American youth, breakdowns in societal values, and how political narratives are shaping national discourse. It includes expert commentary (notably with Dr. Carole Lieberman) and extensive “man-on-the-street” interviews with attendees from across the U.S. and Canada, offering grassroots perspectives on culture, family, faith, and the future of political debate.

Episode Structure

• Reflections on the Charlie Kirk Memorial ([01:19]–[04:28])
• Guest Interview: Dr. Carol Lieberman on American Society ([04:31]–[13:10])
• Legal Analyst Keith Gross: Politics & Violence ([16:06]–[24:31])
• On the Ground: Memorial Attendee Interviews ([27:48]–[50:32])
• Final Commentary and Community Message ([50:33]–[52:39])

Key Discussion Points and Insights

Remembering Charlie Kirk: A Turning Point ([01:19]–[04:28])

• Host David Zier’s Firsthand Account:

  • Describes an unprecedented turnout: “Over 100,000 people closing the freeway entrance at 4 in the morning, 5 in the morning. It was just the most amazing thing you’ve ever seen.”
  • Emphasizes the loss: “The world is missing Charlie Kirk and people like him… he’ll sorely, sorely be missed.”
  • Assigns the continuing leadership of Turning Point to Erica Kirk: “She’s a force, and she’s a juggernaut.” ([03:55])

• Societal Concerns Introduced:

  • “Too many young men and women are lost souls, whether it’s their parents, the nanny state, drugs, being told they can become a man at 14 or a woman at 13…” ([04:17])
  • Discusses the irreversibility of certain decisions (e.g., SSRIs, surgery)

Understanding America’s “Psychiatric Problem”

Guest: Dr. Carol Lieberman, “America’s Psychiatrist”
([04:28]–[13:10])

• Memorial Reflections:

  • “On the positive side, the people who spoke on his behalf… they showed whoever was watching, you know, and there were millions, right?... they saw that they had such a heart… they showed another side of them.” ([05:39])
  • “These are not Gestapo people and this is not Hitler and all of the other names that they like to call us… In fact, these are people who really cared...” ([06:14])

• Political Language and Dehumanization:

  • “There’s this trend… started… during the end of the… presidential campaign… all they could do was just call Trump names. And that, I think, started… the groundswell… where people are continuing to call good people… Gestapo, calling them… these horrendous words, the worst of the worst.” ([06:23])

• Roots of Social Dysfunction:

  • Youth Indoctrination: “Kids starting in preschool even are taught these kind of leftist sort of beliefs…” ([08:07])
  • Lack of Parental Engagement: “Parents are not being as involved with their kids as they should be. There’s no dinner in most homes, no family dinner.” ([08:38])
    • Missed opportunity for parents to guide, inquire, and intervene
  • Social Media Influence: “Things and ideas get magnified on social media… [and] mainstream media just… drives it home…” ([09:07])

• Violence Attribution:

  • Dr. Lieberman distinguishes between mental illness and “maniacal” or “evil” behavior, noting that both may be at play in contemporary violence ([08:07]).
  • On hero-making: “They see these [shooters] as people being heroes… They want to be looked at as the Charlie Kirk of the left party.” ([09:38])

• Breakdown in Respect and Authority:

  • Increased disrespect in school, rooted in home environment and poor parental discipline: “The disrespect that kids bring to school… shows what they’re learning at home… They’re not pledging allegiance to the flag.” ([10:52])

• Final Thoughts - Urgency for Action:

  • “This is an emergency. Everybody has to come together and work on it… There needs to be consequences for these actions. And parents need to wake up.” ([11:54])
  • “Our country is going… to continue to go to hell unless something major happens…” ([12:12])

Politics, Media, and Violence

Guest: Keith Gross, Legal Analyst
([16:06]–[24:31])

• Host David Zier’s Framing:

  • Discusses ‘maniacal’ political provocation, “fomenting and antagonizing the right and fomenting violence out there” ([16:07])
  • Mentions media controversies, e.g. Jimmy Kimmel’s comments: “Purposely lying and saying the kid was a MAGA kid, MAGA supporter who murdered Charlie Kirk, in a way.” ([17:22])

• Gross’s Perspective:

  • “Absolutely, that is what a lot of these folks are doing. They’re making statements that they know are likely to rile people up and encourage violence.” ([16:44])
  • On mental illness: “If you’re able to go out and cause major harm to people, you need to be held responsible…” ([17:03])
  • On gun control rhetoric: “Every time there’s a shooting, what’s the first thing the Democrats do? Oh, we need gun control. They don’t want to worry about locking up criminals… But then when there’s a criminal act, they say, ah, let’s blame the guns.” ([19:15])

• Societal Devolution & Ideological Division:

  • Host: “It’s a combination of a devolution of Our society… breakdown of the family, screen time, you name it. There’s so many factors, but all that can be easily exploitable.” ([19:37])
  • Gross: “There’s this Marxist communist movement… driven by leftist ideology that wants to divide people by class… by any identity class you can come up with… but our Constitution was designed for a moral people who want to do the right thing.” ([20:10])
  • On American exceptionalism: “Our whole system of government is an anomaly in the world… with a constrained government that can’t go outside the bounds of the Constitution.” ([21:21])

• Charlie Kirk’s Lasting Impact:

  • “That’s what Charlie Kirk made his whole career doing… It’s their duty to grab the torch and keep that freedom alive. We’ve got to make sure that 10,000 people pick up that microphone because we’ve got to keep that freedom alive.” ([21:38])

Memorial Attendee Voices: “On the Ground”

([27:48]–[50:32])

Overarching Atmosphere & Testimonials:

• Extraordinary Turnout:

  • Host describes the scene at sunrise: “It’s 4:48 in the morning and the traffic is like miles and miles and miles long. Well over a hundred thousand expected here today.” ([29:12])

• Grassroots Reflections:

  • Many attendees say they came “from all over,” including California, Oregon, Colorado, Connecticut, Canada, and Arizona ([29:36], [45:01]).

Sample Interview Highlights:

• Reflecting on Charlie Kirk’s Values:

  • “I like his honesty… I like his Christian values. I like what he stands for.” ([30:05])
  • “The way Charlie lived his life… made his mission more credible. Living that life. Putting his money where his mouth is.” ([35:49])

• On the Power of Civil Debate:

  • “We needed someone with a voice… He had a way to do it. He definitely did. Not many people can sit there without losing their cool confronted with some of these people, some of them may be on the brink of mental illness. I’m not that guy.” ([31:22])

• Parental and Societal Concerns:

  • “With the schools… they’re on computers 90% of the day. We need to get our kids less screen time. Let’s get them reading and writing again.” ([32:32])
  • “We see the youngsters so screwed up. Maybe their families aren’t so great. Children getting indoctrinated in college, and he [Charlie Kirk] helped fight that.” ([44:15])

• Personal Impact:

  • “He turned two of our daughters lives around. They were very into drugs and drinking and atheists, and they started listening to him, and they changed their entire [life].” ([43:43])
  • “Especially he was born the same year as me, so that was really cool.” ([47:49])

• Cross-border Perspective:

  • “I’m Ryan from Toronto, Canada… I believe in the right to free speech, and I don’t think you should be murdered. Do you have free speech in Canada? No.” ([45:01])

• Generational Impact:

  • “Charlie Kirk was such an inspiration to so many young people… such a loss not only for our movement, but for the Christian community, and it’s just devastating.” ([49:48])

Higher-Level Commentary

• The Challenge of Succession:

  • Host: “Who can replace him on the debate stage, right?” ([41:57])
  • Attendee: “I think Erica is good to be a juggernaut as the CEO of Turning Point, but I don’t know how you replace someone like him.” ([50:20])

• American Renewal:

  • Host’s closing advice: “It’s a rough world out there. If the United States can’t get our act together internally, how are we going to fight foreign threats?… Time to start raising men again in the United States. And by men, I mean men and women. To be responsible adults at 15, at 17, at 19, and not be all screwed up… Take back your school district. Take back your country.” ([51:37])

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

“The impact that Charlie Kirk has left on the planet is immeasurable… His legacy will be that millions of people will get more informed and be able to debate and engage in civil dialogue because of him.”
— David Zier (03:05)

“They saw that they had such a heart… these are not Gestapo people… these are people who really cared about Charlie Kirk, care about America, care about them.”
— Dr. Carol Lieberman (05:39)

“There’s this trend, this sick trend… when you keep using words like [‘Gestapo’], they become devoid of any meaning.”
— Dr. Carol Lieberman (07:09)

“It’s a combination of parents not being as involved, no family dinner… social media… mainstream media driving it home… And then they want to be heroes. They want to be looked at as the Charlie Kirk of the left party.”
— Dr. Carol Lieberman (09:07)

“If you’re able to go out and cause major harm to people, you need to be held responsible, whether that means you’re locked in a mental facility forever or go to prison.”
— Keith Gross (17:03)

“Our whole system of government was designed for a moral people who want to do the right thing. And as we move towards a more low trust society… we’re seeing that reflected in our society now.”
— Keith Gross (20:10)

“We needed someone with a voice… He had the way to do it.”
— Marcelino, Attendee (31:20)

“He turned two of our daughters lives around… they changed their entire [life].”
— Lori, Attendee (43:43)

“We need people like that that are willing to debate. And when the person who wants to just sit down and talk about it dies, you know, there’s an issue with the world.”
— Ryan, Attendee from Toronto (46:10)

“I love the truth, and I love that they’re just down to earth and they’re real and they provide a sense of comedic relief after a long day, which is actually really enjoying.”
— Rochelle, Attendee (49:30)

“Time to start raising men again in the United States. And by men, I mean men and women. To be responsible adults at 15, at 17, at 19, and not be all screwed up and not have all this garbage thrown in their face all the time.”
— David Zier (51:37)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• [01:19] – David Zier on the scale and feeling at the Charlie Kirk memorial
• [04:28] – Dr. Carol Lieberman segment begins
• [07:25] – Discussion of “Gestapo” language, left-right violence, mental illness, and evil
• [11:54] – Lieberman’s urgent call-to-action: “This is an emergency. Everybody has to come together.”
• [16:06] – Legal analysis with Keith Gross on political violence and media narratives
• [20:10] – Gross on declining societal trust and America’s founding values
• [27:48] – “Man on the street” memorial attendee interviews begin
• [31:20] – Marcelino on Charlie’s composure and civil debate skills
• [43:43] – Lori on Charlie’s influence turning her daughters’ lives around
• [46:10] – Ryan from Toronto on free speech and Charlie Kirk’s importance
• [49:30] – Rochelle on the impact and truthfulness of the RAV community
• [51:37] – Zier’s closing call for renewed parenting and American values

Takeaways

• Charlie Kirk’s loss is framed as a seismic shift for the American conservative, Christian, and youth engagement movement, with profound grassroots resonance.
• Societal issues explored include family breakdown, youth alienation, political indoctrination, and the amplification of division by media and authority figures.
• Both expert guests and on-the-ground attendees stress the urgency of restoring civil debate, parental engagement, and traditional values.
• Host David Zier consistently urges personal and collective action, warning that without it, further societal and national decline is inevitable.

For listeners seeking a deep dive into the current conservative zeitgeist—particularly grief, resilience, and the search for new leadership post-Charlie Kirk—this episode stands as a vivid, on-the-ground snapshot and emotional touchstone.