BRIGITTE GABRIEL EXPOSES MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD IN TEXAS, WHITMER $20M SCANDAL | THE ERIC BOLLING SHOW

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Podcast Summary: BRIGITTE GABRIEL EXPOSES MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD IN TEXAS, WHITMER $20M SCANDAL

Podcast: Real America’s Voice
Host: Eric Bolling (iHeartPodcasts)
Episode Date: May 19, 2026

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Main Theme

This episode centers on alleged threats from Islamist organizations in the US—with a focus on the Muslim Brotherhood and Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR)—political scandals including Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer's $20 million grant controversy, and broader philosophical battles over crime, governance, and the direction of American society. Key guests include Brigitte Gabriel (ACT for America chairwoman), Michigan State Senator Eric Nesbitt, AMAC’s Kurt Meyer, and Steve Bannon.

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Key Segments & Discussion Points

1. Islamist Organizations, Sharia Law, and Policy Pushback

(Timestamps: 01:02–13:18)

Texas’ Designation of CAIR as a Terror Organization

• Eric Bolling opens on Texas Governor Abbott designating certain CAIR chapters as terrorist organizations; CAIR is now required to disclose donor information after a court ruling.
• Bolling frames CAIR as a “dangerous organization … probably both financed by Iran” (05:58), expressing frustration at what he sees as piecemeal designations vs. blanket ones.

Brigitte Gabriel’s Take – CAIR, Muslim Brotherhood, and Political Inaction

• Brigitte Gabriel: “CAIR was an unindicted conspirator in the largest terrorism finance trial that actually took place in Dallas, Texas in 2007 and 2008 … the only reason why the indictments were not handed down is because Obama got elected and he protected them for eight years.” (04:42)
• Asserts the Obama administration “had a VIP red carpet to the White House. Over 355 visits to the Obama White House.”
• Claims Trump “wasn’t up to speed” on Islamist organizations but is now, and that GOP is developing a “backbone.”
• Cites GOP governors and legislative activity in Texas, Florida, Arizona, and beyond to classify Muslim Brotherhood/CAIR as terrorists.
• Discusses reluctance for blanket designations as a diplomatic issue: “I do not know why the President is not really moving forward with that, but I believe it’s because he needs to work with some of these countries.” (06:24)

Sharia Creep and Cultural Influence

• Bolling and Gabriel recall earlier pushback against the phrase “Sharia creep” from mainstream media.
• Gabriel argues that Islamism expanded as critics were silenced by accusations of Islamophobia:

  “Most Americans were so afraid to be called names ... they cannot argue with your fact. All they had to do is slap a label on you and that will shut you up.” (08:44)

• She highlights “Epic City” in Texas, a public water park hosting “Muslim Day,” as evidence of alleged Sharia influence in taxpayer-funded institutions.

“Window for Action” During Republican Leadership

• Gabriel presents the Trump era as a rare “window” to “reverse the damage that the Obama administration and the Biden administration have done to our country” (11:23), urging listeners to join ACT for America.

Notable Quote:

“Now after President Trump and after the 2020 election … we are all in the same boats right now,” Gabriel (08:44)

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2. Michigan $20 Million Grant Scandal: Gov. Whitmer Under Scrutiny

(Timestamps: 15:29–22:29)

The Allegations

• Eric Bolling introduces Michigan State Senator Eric Nesbitt to discuss the investigation into Governor Whitmer and a $20 million grant linked to Fay Baydoun, a close Whitmer confidante and fundraiser.
• Nesbitt asserts: “This is a typical pay to play system … Fay Baydoun … went to the governor’s office … said I got a great new deal for you guys. Give me $20 million … Well, she got cashed out.” (16:12)
• Baydoun allegedly spent lavishly: “half million dollar salary, $5,000 coffee maker, $14,000 roundtrip tickets … $10,000 Tunisian rugs,” but "never actually engaged with anybody." (16:12)

Political Context & Investigation

• Michigan's Democrat Attorney General Dana Nessel has filed 16 criminal charges against Baydoun, but Nesbitt claims “where there's smoke, there's fire” regarding Whitmer’s involvement.
• Nesbitt calls for a Department of Justice probe, wary that Nessel and Whitmer are allies and may protect each other.

Bolling on Political Stakes

• Bolling discusses Michigan’s tight party balance, pressing Nesbitt on what Republicans need to do to retake statewide offices.
• Nesbitt: “We’re building up the success for the Senate Republicans to win back the majority this fall. I’m going to win the governorship, we’re going to win the Attorney General, Secretary of State’s office.” (21:29)

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3. Seniors and the Battle of Advocacy Groups: AMAC vs. AARP

(Timestamps: 22:31–26:59)

Kurt Meyer – AMAC vs. AARP

• Kurt Meyer (AMAC SVP): “AARP is liberal ... we are the conservative alternative to AARP.” (26:26)
• Outlines new benefit platforms for AMAC members (travel, discounts), and highlights advocacy through AMAC Action, focusing on Social Security and conservative priorities.
• Emphasizes AMAC’s size and political clout: “We are a force to be reckoned with … over 2 million members … and we’re growing.” (25:34)

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4. Crime, Business Closures, and Government Failure: The Walgreens Segment

(Timestamps: 28:21–35:22)

Walgreens Closes Store in Chicago

• Bolling denounces Chicago politicians who blame Walgreens for closing stores after repeated thefts and rising costs:

  “Instead of asking why theft became so normalized in Chicago ... some local officials are outraged at Walgreens. Walgreens, not the people, are ripping off the Walgreens.” (30:26)

• A community member is featured lamenting the closure, to which Bolling retorts:

  “Are these people brain dead? … It’s a business. It’s a corporation… They can’t give it away because that’s what’s happening.” (31:02)

• Critiques lenient city prosecution, low penalties, and the resultant “economic hostage-taking.”
• Warns other “blue cities” (e.g., New York) of similar outcomes if crime policies don’t change.

Notable Quote:

“Walgreens didn’t fail the city of Chicago. Chicago failed Walgreens.” (33:03)

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5. Government, Gerrymandering, and Political Hypocrisy

(Timestamps: 37:25–43:55)

Reagan’s Famous Government Warning

• Bolling and guest recall Reagan’s quip:

  “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are I’m from the government and I’m here to help.” (37:34)

• Bolling stresses government’s role in providing “safety, security and opportunity—not outcomes,” criticizing progressive politicians for overpromising.

Gerrymandering

• Bolling lambasts “The View” for blaming only Republicans for gerrymandering:

  “Leave it to the ladies of The View to pretend that only Republicans are doing it.” (39:36)

• Plays clip from Stacey Abrams calling new district maps “competitive authoritarianism.”
• Bolling: “Both sides do it … They point the finger at the other side when they’re doing it, not remembering they do it too. … By continuing to insist on it, they’re inciting Americans with that rhetoric.” (41:31)

Chicago Bears Relocation Dispute

• Brief discussion of Chicago’s difficulties retaining the Bears due to lack of a city plan, featuring Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker criticizing the city’s leadership.

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6. Political Power and the Texas Senate Race: Trump’s Influence

(Timestamps: 47:40–55:29)

Steve Bannon Joins: Trump, Paxton, and Senate Leadership

• Bannon discusses Trump’s endorsement of Texas AG Ken Paxton for Senate, after Fox’s Karl Rove criticized him and promoted John Cornyn.
• Bannon: “President Trump’s very close to Ken [Paxton] and loves Paxton, given the work he’s done. But I think John Thune has been treating the Senate’s been treating President Trump as a lame duck.” (50:34)
• Bannon calls for the removal of John Thune as Senate leader:

  “We need to move to take this as ultimate conclusion. We have to remove John Thune as the leader.” (52:51)

• Bolling and Bannon discuss the importance of Trump’s endorsements, House and Senate races, and the persistent challenge of Democrat gains amid high energy prices.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Brigitte Gabriel: “CAIR was an unindicted conspirator … only reason why the indictments were not handed down is because Obama got elected and he protected them for eight years.” (04:42)
• Eric Bolling: "Are these people brain dead? … It’s a business. … They buy that stuff. … They have to buy it, and they can’t give it away because that’s what’s happening." (31:02)
• Steve Bannon: “We need to move to take this as ultimate conclusion. We have to remove John Thune as the leader.” (52:51)
• Kurt Meyer (AMAC): “AARP is liberal ... we are the conservative alternative to AARP." (26:26)

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Segment Timestamps

• Texas/CAIR/Muslim Brotherhood Discussion: 01:02–13:18
• Whitmer $20M Scandal: 15:29–22:29
• AMAC Segment: 22:31–26:59
• Walgreens/Chicago Crime Rant: 28:21–35:22
• Reagan/Government/Gerrymandering: 37:25–43:55
• Bannon/Trump/Paxton/Texas Senate Race: 47:40–55:29

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Tone & Style

The episode maintains a provocative, urgent, and conservative tone—often combative and unfiltered, full of partisan analysis and speculation. Guests share a sense of mission, warning of risks they see posed by adversaries (Islamists, Democrats, bureaucrats), and push for grassroots activism and political engagement.

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For listeners interested in conservative perspectives on national security, political corruption, law & order, and intraparty GOP dynamics, this episode offers an energetic, combative recap of current culture war and political fault lines.

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[Bridget Gabriel]

Well, you know, the largest care was unindicted conspirator in the largest terrorism finance trial that actually took place in Dallas, Texas in 2007 and 2008. And the only reason why the indictments were not handed down is because Obama got elected and he protected them for eight years. Not only he protected them, they had a VIP red carpet to the White House. Over 355 visits to the Obama White House. Now, when President Trump came to office, he wasn't really up to speed on all these little shenanigans with all these Islamic organizations in the country. And now he is. He is up to speed. So right now, you see in governors, you're seeing elected officials who are emboldened in coming out and attacking care or going after care. Look, who would have thought, Eric, that we're gonna have an anti Sharia conference in Congress. Anti Sharia caucus with over 65 members of Congress. And this is why Governor Abbott and people like him, like DeSantis in Florida are coming out. Even in Arizona, we introduced legislation to designate the Muslim Brotherhood as domestic terrorist organizations. So this is why the Republicans are developing a backbone.

[Eric Bolling]

What I'm asking you, what I'm asking you specifically, I agree with all that. I think they're a dangerous organization. Both of them, Muslim Brotherhood, Caribbean, they're probably both financed by Iran. We'll get to Iran in just a minute. But the question is, why not just, just call it blanket? They're terrorists. We're not going to let you operate freely, certainly not under our tax laws in the United States. Why is in Trump's doing the same thing? Certain chapters are designated as terrorists. Why not the whole group?

[Bridget Gabriel]

Certain chapters of The Muslim Brotherhood, CAIR is a subsidiary. They are a one out of the 29 front Islamic organizations under the Muslim Brotherhood umbrella. So there are two different things. On the international level, on the national level, President Trump designated chapters of the Muslim Brotherhood. And I don't agree with it. I'm like, you know, I want the complete, sweeping designation, especially now that we have him in office. But I think because of us dealing with other countries that we need their help, like Syria's cooperation, for example. We've got Giuliani in power over there. You've got different countries where we need their help. And this is why we're not coming out and designating a sweeping designation of the Muslim Brotherhood, because we still need to work with these other countries. Now you've got Islamic countries like Saudi Arabia, like the Arab Emirates, who already designated them as a terrorist organization, like Egypt, who already designated the, the whole organization as a terrorist organization. I do not know why the President is not really moving forward with that, but I believe it's because he needs to work with some of these countries

[Eric Bolling]

or some of the, maybe, I don't know, high, high profile Muslim people in the United States who maybe doesn't want to piss every one of them off at the Same time, perhaps. Which was just odd because he doesn't seem to hold back ever. Let's talk a little bit about. You know, Bridget, back in the day when I was doing shows with you, I bring you on, we talk about this Muslim. I called it a Sharia creep. I used to get in trouble at Fox for using those terms, Shariah creep, meaning Shariah. These people are bringing in Sharia law and trying to expand it into neighborhoods into, into, into municipalities. And it was like, oh, bowling, be careful. That could be perceived as bigoted. We're looking at Epic City. Epic City in Texas. Epic. What's the Trish, what's the Epic playground water park that was, there was a Muslim day only like you, if you're a Muslim, you got into this. Mind you, this is a taxpayer funded water park called Epic. I can't remember the name of it. So. But, but why would, why would we allow this type of thing? It strikes me as odd. It's almost like we're catering to, to Muslims when they're trying clearly to bring Sharia law into the country.

[Bridget Gabriel]

Because for the last 25 years, Eric, when you and I were talking about this on Fox News, you said it, people said, oh, don't push it. Don't talk like this. You're gonna offend people. They accused us of Islamophobias, they accused us of hate. People like you and I don't hate anybody. We condemn hatred, we condemn violence. The reality is we have people in our country that have come in here, either legally or illegally, who do not share our values and they are enforcing their point of view. I believe most Americans were so afraid to be called names because the Islamists knew, because they cannot argue with your fact. All they had to do is slap a label on you and that will shut you up. And so they would call us Islamophobes, et cetera. And the American public said, well, I'm not a bigot, I'm not a racist, I'm not an Islamophobe. I don't wanna say anything because I don't wanna be accused of these labels. But now after President Trump and after the 2020 election, everybody, if you were on the right and you stood up for people trying to harm this country, whether they are illegal immigrants who are trying to kill or rape our daughters, or stab and kill, whether people who want to defund the police, whether they are Islamists who want to commit terrorist act in our country, if you said anything against that, you're already considered the white supremacist. A hater, a bigot, a xenophobe, Islamophobe, et cetera. So we are all in the same boats right now. And those 20 years when people like you and me were being silenced, the Islamists were empowered and they were emboldened because they knew they were unstoppable. And that's how you end up with Epic City. You know, they say in business an overnight success takes 20 years. Now we are seeing the results. And by the way, this is not just in Dallas. You know, I run a national organization, act for America. Right now we are dealing with models like Epic City in Oklahoma, in California. I was going back and forth this morning with Orange County. You cannot believe the Epic City, like mosque and Islamic center plant in Orange county, the heart of conservative California.

[Eric Bolling]

Well, Bridge, let me, let me point a couple of things out. Number one, this start, you say 20 years. I would say 18. And here's why. When Barack Obama won, almost immediately, he started opening the door for Muslims and Sharia and he did things. He protected the Muslim Brotherhoods and others. And then he sent billions of dollars in pallets on pallets of cash and into Iran, which supports all these groups. I think that was the. It's all clear, folks, to start working into the United States of America. It's taking a lot of time to kind of slow that down. But they just want to keep going, right?

[Bridget Gabriel]

They want to keep going. They are just counting that, you know, President Trump is going to go in about two years and they're going to have, they're hoping and counting on another Democratic leadership that's going to turn a blind eye. Just like Obama. They all operate the same way. And that's why you see the Islamist and the leftists coming together and working together, hoping that, you know, it's only a matter of time. This is a pause under Trump. We're gonna, if we stay long enough in the fight, Trump is gonna go away. We're gonna continue growing. This is how strong they feel. And that's why we on the conservative side have a window of opportunity right now to organize, to open our eyes in our own communities, to become engaged and involved. And I encourage people, if you are concerned about these issues, please go to actforamerica.org right now, my organization, actforamerica.org and join us. We are building the firewalls in every state across the country and working with the anti Sharia caucus to make sure we secure as many states and as many communities as possible while we have a chance under a Republican leadership. So we can protect the country and reverse the damage that the Obama administration and the Biden administration have done to our country.

[Eric Bolling]

We're going to leave it there. But I'll tell you what, this whole idea of Mamdani in New York and some of these other, these, these far, far left Muslim protecting politicians, some of the squad members, it's really, really dangerous. Everything we were talking about 18, 20 years ago is coming to roost right now. And I just wish people saw it then. I don't know if it's too late or not. By the way, Democrats, I agree with you. They, they're, they're siding with them because they're going to do the same thing as soon as Trump's gone. They're going to start pushing the woke up, the cancel culture woke mob back on us. Don't think it's not going to happen. Bridget Gabriel, always good to have you. Chairwoman, act for America, folks. It's act for America.org don't forget, sign up. She's great, Bridget. See you again soon.

[Bridget Gabriel]

Thank you.

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[Eric Bolling]

All right. The role of governor of any state is to oversee the administration of their state and carry out the policies that the state legislature puts up. Carry them out, uphold those laws. Here's what to do. Here's what not to do. Actually, it's not to take part in a $20 million taxpayer grant scandal. Well, Governor Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan is now being investigated for exactly that. Here he goes. All the details is Michigan state senator, Republican leader who is also running for governor, Eric Nesbit. I'll let you set it up, Eric. I saw it. I'm trying to. Gretchen is, she's oversaw the person who's been accused of giving away or, I don't know, fraud, wasting, abusing 20 Mel. Tell us about it.

[Eric Nesbitt]

Well, thanks for having me on, Eric. This is, this is disgusting. Talk about waste, fraud and abuse. This is a typical pay to play system that we're seeing unfolding here in Michigan with Governor Gretchen Whitmer at the center of it. Fay Bay Dune, who's a big confidant, bundler, fundraiser, raised hundreds of thousands of dollars for Governor Whitmer over the last several years, especially for reelection and her first election a few years ago, went to the governor's office, went to her economic development folks and said I got a great new deal for you guys. Give me $20 million, I'll say I'm gon with these Middle Eastern countries and we'll create a bunch of jobs here in Michigan. Well, she got cashed out $20 million. And what she do, she took a half million dollar salary, bought a $5,000 coffee maker, got $14,000 roundtrip tickets, business class overseas, bought a bunch of $10,000 Tunisian rugs. And we're finding out that she never actually engaged with anybody. And this is one of Governor Whitmer's closest confidants. Last week, the Democrat attorney general actually filed 16 criminal charges against Fay Bay Dune, that's her name, and going after her. But we know where there's smoke, there's fire. If we're seeing this kind of waste, fraud and abuse happening to one of her closest confidants, we know that it's going to be close to Governor Whitmer. And I'm sorry, there needs to be a full investigation of what did Governor Whitmer know, when did she know it? And nobody's above the law or should be above the law. And I think that if you steal from government, you should be put in prison. And that doesn't make an exception for Governor Whitman.

[Eric Bolling]

Well, no question here. Here's the question. So Governor Whitmer is term limited. She's not going to run for re election. She can't by Constitution Michigan. But this Attorney General Dana Nestle is the one you're talking about, I assume. And here's the. So how, how much teeth will this investigation have you point out? She's a Democrat.

[Community Member]

She.

[Eric Bolling]

Will she go after a governor that's going to leave office in, you know, in a few months or will she let this one ride? And just going after the person who gave away the 20 million. And how do you get that tie? Where's the string that ties this bodun

[Eric Nesbitt]

or whatever to Whitmer?

[Eric Bolling]

Unless you have some sort of email, you could be winking a nod. They could go to a dinner and talk about hey listen, I'm giving you 500K. Take this trip. Here's something else. Here's a car. Just make sure I get the 20 million to spend. Tell us.

[Eric Nesbitt]

Yeah, the reporters are covering this and actually they're uncovering a little different wrinkle every week now. And we're seeing it gets really close to the governor's, to the governor herself. This is why I'm calling on the Department of Justice to do a full investigation. We know how the these Lansing swamp actually protects their own. And we have to have an outside investigator to make sure that we uncover all this information of what's there. I'm afraid that these buddies, you know, Dana Ness was the Attorney General with Governor Whitmer, are using Faye as a fallout person. I think a lot more people knew what was going on than what they let on.

[Eric Bolling]

You made an AI video about all this? Let's take a look at. It's very entertaining. Wait, so the 20 million went to what, Community development or something? I asked AI to come up with the chair.

[Bridget Gabriel]

Oh my gosh.

[Eric Bolling]

You're literally a genius. Ew, what is that noise?

[Bridget Gabriel]

Are they poor?

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[Eric Bolling]

Well done. Well done. Now you, you petitioned Acting Attorney General of the United States, Todd Blanch? Yes, yes.

[Eric Nesbitt]

We sent a letter yesterday, an investigation. We need to have a full investigation. What's going on? We got to root out this waste, fraud and abuse and this abuse of taxpayer money. And anybody that's misusing and stealing taxpayer money needs to go to jail.

[Eric Bolling]

All right, Eric, let me. I have a question. I looked into your, your, your makeup. I was surprised to see Michigan, I don't know, as, as red as it is. Now, I know that the Senate and the House Republicans are Democrat, but it's. I'm. No, I'm wrong. House Republicans are Republican led 58 to 52. Your Senate has 38 seats, 20 to 18. My question is, if you're going to give up a seat, I mean, you're so close to taking the House and the Senate, aren't you better serving the. At least the conservative voice in Michigan as a state senator?

[Eric Nesbitt]

Yeah, I'm term limited out and I. So we have term limits in Michigan, and so I can't run again. But what I can do is we're building up the success for the Senate Republicans to win back the majority this fall. I'm going to win the governorship, we're going to win the Attorney General, Secretary of State's office, so we can defeat Jocelyn Benson, who's the worst Secretary of State ever. We can't let Jocelyn Benson get anywhere close to the governor's office. She's less competent and even more liberal than Governor Whitmer is. And in 2024, we joined with President Trump to win back the state House. I worked very effectively with Speaker Matt hall and on that two years ago. Now we've got to win back the Senate, win back the governorship and close with Eric.

[Eric Bolling]

You're close. You're so close. Michigan having a Republican state, House top and bicameral state, Republican side would be phenomenal. Eric, we gotta jump. Please keep us up to date on what happens with the investigation. And if you get any relief from Blanche, if he's going to actually look into it hard from the federal level. Appreciate Michigan State Senator Eric Nesbitt.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you.

[Eric Bolling]

All right, folks, our viewers are tired of organizations like AARP pushing left leaning policies while claiming to speak for seniors. My first guest says. This guest says AMAC is the conservative alternative who will protect your interests and work to solve the problems seniors face today. Happy to have Senior Vice President of Strategic Partnerships and Memberships Services Kurt Meyer with us. Kurt, really good to have you on you AMAC members are concerned about the cost, obviously they're concerned about the cost of living. They're concerned about what taxes on Social Security and whatnot. What has AMAC done to help its members save money? Especially I know AAPART Air Party is a left leaning organization. Tell us.

[Kurt Meyer]

Well, thanks again for having me, Eric. And yeah, our members believe in what we stand for politically. They join AMAC because they know what we stand for. Our values, faith, family and freedom. But then they go right to wanting to save money. Okay. And as the head of our member benefits platform, I'm proud to say that over the years we've developed an incredible array of valuable member benefits designed to save our members money. And we only build relationships with national companies that meet our strict standards for providing quality services and products. And with that being said, I'm pleased to announce that this year we're going to be rolling out the AMAC Travel Network and as well as our AMAC Discount Marketplace and those, both those benefit platforms are going to bring significant savings to our members on travel, dining and other retail products. So remember, you heard it first on RAV folks.

[Eric Bolling]

There you go. First on Revolution. Thank you for doing that. Appreciate it. Also, do you have any sort of political group, do you have a political action committee or something that you know, with several million members that you have, which is, that's a nice voting group. I think everyone would love to have you as a voting group if you do. Is there anyone you, you, you organizing, so to speak, the millions of members that you have in a political. Here, here's the, Here are the members of Congress or senators who would help our cause the most.

[Kurt Meyer]

Well, yeah, we've got our AMAC Action, which is our 501c4 advocacy arm. And they're constantly working with local state government officials to get the word out to, you know, what we stand for, you know, saving Social Security and just being out there professing, you know, everything that we stand for and fight for for our members.

[Eric Bolling]

So your, your, your founder. I, I can't remember if it's your founder, Daniel Weber. It was a female I met at, at a CPAC convention. She was so conservative, she was so speaking every language. First Amendment protection, Second Amendment protections, making sure government's smaller, making sure our seniors are getting, you know, raises, cost of living raises to, to at least keep up with inflation. Has it trickled down? Is this still the core ideas behind amac?

[Kurt Meyer]

Yeah, absolutely. You're probably talking about Rebecca Weber, our CEO. Yes, and obviously Dan Weber was our founder who founded amac back in 2007. But yeah, everything that Rebecca has stated in the past and what we state every day is fighting for the membership, fighting for what we believe in. Again, less government, constitutional rights, faith, family and freedom. We, we are a force to be reckoned with. I mean, we have over 2 million members right now across the United States and we're growing.

[Eric Bolling]

That's a huge. When politicians, they'll go into, you know, a group and maybe 15, 20 people sit there, they'll do a town hall, I mean, to get, you know, millions of members, maybe online or somehow as that moves the needle, it's, it's impressive. How is, how do you distinguish yourself from aarp?

[Kurt Meyer]

Well, again, it's pretty simple. I mean, AARP is liberal. I mean at the end of the day, and we are the conservative alternative to aarp. And Dan Weber, you know, God rest his soul, I met dan back in 2007 when he first formed AMAC. And he formed it because he didn't believe in the politics of AARP and where they were going. So again he said, let me form, which was a gutsy thing in my mind and everybody's mind, let me form a conservative alternative. And again, look at where we've grown.

[Eric Bolling]

You've crushed it. You've done very, very well, amec. Thank you. Kurt Meyer, senior vice president of amec. Appreciate your time.

[Kurt Meyer]

Thank you, Eric.

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We'll be back. Two and a half minutes, folks.

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So. I hate this. I hate what Chicago. I came from Chicago discussing what Chicago is doing. And what message is Chicago sending to Walgreens but also the business community? Please continue getting robbed for the good of the community. Walgreens should be charged with first degree corporate abandonment. It should be a crime the way they're treating our elders. Yes, it should be a crime the way they're treating our families. Corporate abandonment. They should be charged with a crime. Really? Another day, another city politician shocked. I tell you that businesses don't enjoy operating as a non profit crime scene. This time it's Walgreens closing a store in Chicago after reportedly losing roughly a million dollars to theft in 2025 alone. On top of spending another $400,000 on added security just to keep the place open. And naturally, instead of asking why theft became so normalized in Chicago that a major retailer effectively turned into a charitable donation center for shoplifters, some local officials are outraged at Walgreens. Walgreens, not the people, are ripping off the Walgreens. Walgreens itself. How dare the company close an unprofitable store that's getting ripped off to a million million half dollars every year. How dare it refuse the privilege of bleeding cash indefinitely into a Chicago community? So apparently the new civic model goes something like this. Businesses are just expected to absorb endless losses while politicians hold press conferences about community injustice. The entire conversation is upside down. Government has a few core responsibilities. One of those responsibilities, probably the biggest, protecting property rights and maintaining public order. If people can walk right into stores, steal a bunch of stuff openly and face little to no consequence, then repeat the process over and over again, and the government is failing at one of the most basic jobs it claims a monopoly over. And yet somehow the villain in this story becomes the pharmacy chain itself.

[Community Member]

This place isn't just a. A store on this corner. This. This place is a lifeline for many people in this community. And for them to just say they're just going to leave like that and leave us with nothing is unacceptable. This Walgreen has been here for decades. And for decades, the people in this community have been patronizing this place. And for you guys to just leave us like this, it's very unacceptable. It's unacceptable to these children that they can't get the things that they need from a place like this. And Then you're going to leave us destitute and in a desert.

[Eric Bolling]

Are these people brain dead? Are they? Absolutely brain dead. It's a business. It's a corporation, it's a company. It's not Mayor Zoran Mandani's free store. We're coming and get stuff for free. It's a company. They buy that stuff. They manufacture some of this stuff. They have to buy it, and they can't give it away because that's what's happening. How many videos have you seen online? How many videos you have seen on this show where people walk in, A lot of times they look homeless. They'll walk in and just take whatever they need. I need some deodorant. You know what? I think I'll shave this month. I'll grab some razors. They take whatever they want and they walk out. Everyone just videotapes them. And no one stops them because they're. They're called bigoted if they stop them or. Or somehow homophobic or whatever it is. So they're guilted into letting these thieves walk right out the door. And then what happens? They close the doors and then the community, like that moronic black lady right there, saying, oh, how dare you not sell stuff to our. Our family, our friends, our neighbors. Really, you got a problem, lady? So does everyone else. So does that politician. What exactly does Walgreens. What are they supposed to do? Put toothpaste in a vault? Hire Navy seals to guard the shampoo aisle? Install a biometric scanner before customers can access deodorant? Are we trying to become a communist state like China? Reality needs to enter the chat now. Fact is, businesses exist to make money, like it or not, or at the minimum, not lose catastrophic amounts of money in one store. That's not greed. That's literally the entire mechanism. The entire mechanism by which businesses survive, employ people, pay taxes, and continue to serve communities. But in many cities, politicians, they continue to send these mixed signals about crime. There are lower thresholds for prosecutions. Nonviolent theft is treated as practically harmless. There's no penalty. You don't spend any time behind bars. You get a note and says, don't come back here.

[J.B. Pritzker]

Really?

[Eric Bolling]

Really. You stole them blind, but just don't come back if you get caught. Police are discouraged from proactive enforcement. Businesses are told, just absorb the losses. You know, it's your job, right? You're in this for the community, right? We know what businesses listen. And now they're doing business elsewhere. This is the irony. The people hurt most by the policies aren't the rich people with private cars and delivery options and credit cards with no limit. The victims here are ordinary working class residents who suddenly lose a pharmacy, that they need a grocery store, that they need a job or two in the neighborhood, that they need just basic neighborhood services. Commerce requires order. You can't build a functioning economy while treating law enforcement, property rights and public safety as suggestions as options. What happens is investors leave, stores close, employers scale back, insurance costs explode, consumers adapt and capital moves elsewhere. Not because corporations are evil, but because math exists. And now some politicians want consequences for Walgreens closing a store. It's absurd. It's not free enterprise. It's not the free market. That's economic hostage taking. If city leaders want businesses to stay, then they need to create conditions where staying makes sense. Staying is not a lost leader. It's not rocket science. Enforce the damn laws, protect property and stop treating theft like some sort of quirky social expression or deserved reparations. Stop pretending economic incentives aren't important. They are when stores start locking up the toothpaste, deodorant and baby formula behind plexiglass like they're displaying crown jewels at the Louvre. That's usually a sign something or someone has gone very wrong long before the store closing sign goes up. Bottom line, Walgreens. Walgreens didn't fail the city of Chicago. Chicago failed Walgreens. And so the shutters went up. And let that be a message to all blue cities that don't take crime seriously. Talking to you, New York City, you're next. We're next. Two and a half minutes away, having

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Well, you know, it's one of Ronald Reagan's greatest lines. We've heard it a million times, but he had many lines. This is the one that really sticks. Always good to hear it again.

[Eric Nesbitt]

I think you all know that I've always felt the nine most terrifying words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

[Eric Bolling]

Well, Reagan wasn't just tossing out a one liner. He said it in the 1980s at a time when Americans were frustrated with bloated and more bloated bureaucracy, high taxes, inflation, government waste. Reagan's larger point was that government power tends to grow, rarely shrinks, and too often believes it can solve every problem better than we can. They're wrong. In a nutshell, it was a slam against communism. So when someone like New York City Mayor Zoran Mamdani mocks the line today, or as we call Zobama, as we affectionately like to call him around here, it's ironic to say the least.

[Eric Nesbitt]

I cannot help but think of the words of our 40th president, Ronald Reagan. He famously said the nine most terrifying words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help. It's a good quote, vote, but I disagree. I think nine more terrifying words are actually I worked all day and can't feed my family.

[Eric Bolling]

Well, if you do the math, that's actually ten words, Zoran. But the point is this. No. Government isn't here to solve our problems. Government is here to make sure we have safety, we have security and we have opportunity, not guaranteed outcomes. Opportunity. That's what governance for. People make far better decisions on what we do with our money than you people do. By the way, you're bankrupt, in debt for, I think it was $2 billion last we checked. Nice work. I said it for weeks. Gerrymandering. It's not a great decision, no matter which side is doing it. It kind of interferes with our democracy, right? It interferes with the sanctity of our elections. We're playing games. Picking a piece over here, picking a piece over here, connecting with the road somehow to grab those voters. Don't like it on either side, to be honest with you. It's unfair to actual voters no matter who does it, to be honest. But leave it to the ladies of the View to pretend that only Republicans are doing it.

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And I see this as a great opportunity for the Democrats to show the American people that they are here for affordability. They are here for health care. They are here for education. They are here for making people's lives better. This is a huge opportunity, despite the fact that they're trying to gerrymander the heck out of this country and take

[Community Member]

away the black vote.

[Eric Bolling]

Look at the states. Look at the states that are doing it. At one point, two weeks ago, Democrats were up in joy. They were joyfully saying, we're winning the gerrymandering war. Now all of a sudden, it flips back the other way because of Virginia and the Supreme Court decisions. And now it's terrible. And by the way, only Republicans do it now. These people are insane. These, these women of the view. They're horrible people. Hypocrites. Meanwhile, the folks over at Ms. Now. Is that what it's called? Are happy to have on election denier Stacey Abrams to talk about how the Supreme Court decision affects Democrats. Democrats. Listen to that again, how the Supreme Court decision affects Democrats. Except the question Abrams was asked is how the high court's decision impacts Americans of color of all kinds of political leaning who run for office. How does it affect them? The truth here is that they're only race baiting to cover up the fact that it's not really about race at all, but about their party's thirst for power and controlling you in a competitive,

[Stacey Abrams]

authoritarian nation, which is what America is now. Democracy is about ensuring that we have shared power and shared voices. It does not guarantee you victory, but it guarantees you access. Authoritarianism, especially competitive authoritarianism, attempts to diminish your ability to use those same Democratic institutions to your benefit. With these new maps, we know that analysis by Fair Fight and Black Voters Matters show that we could lose 19 to 20 congressional seats. But we could lose up to 191 state legislative seats.

[Eric Bolling]

Both sides do it. Don't like it. Both sides do it. Guess what? When shoes on the other foot, you guys increase seats, you gerrymander states as well. You know how it works. But this is what Paul, this is why politicians so, so, so slimy. Both sides do it, and they point the finger at the other side when they're doing it, not remembering that they do it, too. So they're insisting this is all about stifling people of color from holding office. That's just not true. Not the case. But by continuing to insist on it, they're inciting Americans with that rhetoric. It's their current playbook, and it is a dangerous one. All right, so the Chicago Bears basically standing at the door with their suitcases packed, looking Arlington Heights, Illinois, or maybe in Indiana possibly. I mean, look at New Jersey. New Jersey houses. Giant Stadium is in New Jersey, and the New York jets and New York Giants play in New Jersey. Not crazy. Chicago might lose the Bears. While Chicago politicians keep insisting that everything's under control. That walking disaster Chicago Mayor Brandon. Let's go. Brandon Johnson says he's committed to keeping the Bears in the city. The only problem is nobody seems entirely sure what the actual plan is. Illinois governor and Fellow Democrat disaster J.B. pritzker has something to say about it.

[J.B. Pritzker]

I know that the mayor has no plan. He has come up with no plan at all about how the Bears would end up in the city of Chicago. So that's problematic. I'd love them to be in the city, but we're three years in now and he still has no plan. And in fact, this is kind of typical. The mayor has shown up every spring at the end of session to pronounce what he would like to see happen. And as you know, the budget gets put together starting in November. I present my budget. Well, really, we start at the beginning of a fiscal year, but about in November, you know, we're in the details of the budget. I present that budget to the legislature in February. So that seems like a good time period to come talk to the governor's office. Then there's February to May. There's all that time to come talk to the legislature, which has my budget in hand, or the governor's office. Again, we've seen almost nothing out of the mayoral administration here on that subject or really any other. And so to show up in May and have a bunch of demands seems like late in the game. And it's unfortunate that's happened most years.

[Eric Bolling]

Well, so that's kind of interesting, right? Because I'll tell you why. The governor can absolutely help out the mayor. This is what. Look at what's going on in New York City. Zoramni is sunk. He's done. He's underwater. Billions of dollars underwater. Who comes to his rescue? Mayor Hochul, New York, New York State. I'm sorry, Governor Hochul, New York State. Governor Hochul bailing out Mamdani. All right, so Governor Pritzker, you want to do it? You want to step up, step up. Help the bear stay in Chicago or at least in this, in the state of Illinois. That would be a good first start. It's so Democrat. Such like a Democrat to point fingers at someone else. Finally, they're pointing fingers at each other. Take a look at this, everyone. If you're interested in freedom, bitcoin, health, sovereignty, or just challenging the way the system works, listen up. This Thursday night in Grand Rapids, Michigan, the bash. It's where Bitcoin Maha and the Mrs. Caucus of the Libertarian Party come together for one night of real conversations about money, liberty, health and where the country is headed. There's fireside chats, networking, live discussions and people building real solutions. And here's the bonus. Use that promo code right there on the lower right of your screen and save 70 bucks off your ticket. Ticket, that's luma.com y h6h I y w v. You save 70 bucks off, that's about 60 savings on a full price ticket. Again this Thursday, May 21st at McKay Tower in Grand Rapids. Get your tickets now at luma.com h6h I y w v. That's your promo code to save 70 bucks. We'll see you there.

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All right, that's gonna be great. Keep throw up that full screen here. We're doing the the Villages on May 29. We're doing live four to five. If you're in the Villages watching right now, come on out. We're going to be at City Fire Grill. I think there's two of them. It's Brownwood. I think one of them's on Brownwood Avenue Boulevard. Brownwood Boulevard should be great. We're gonna do a little golf cart thing. It's going to be a lot of fun. Come on out. It's live. Play some music. Got some people who are going to play some music as well and just talk about how conservative that group of folks is in Main Street America. But specifically right there, right there, my friends. Also, I want to do this. We're going to bring Steve in and see band in in just a minute. But before we do that, just take a look at what was going on this morning. I was unbanned in this morning. I got off a band show and I was watching Fox and all of a sudden Perino, I call her P. Rhino. Perino brings on Karl Rove. And Karl Rove goes into how great John Cornyn is, what a great friend he is, how great he's for Texas and he's the one that could beat Telo on the Democrat side. And then he laces into Ken Paxton. You know, I know Ken. We know Ken. He's the guy, he's the right guy for that Senate seat in Texas. He's not a Rhino, he's not an anti Trumper, which Cornyn was, as is Rove. But Roe went into why the Democrat Tellarico would beat Paxton but not Cornyn. And I thought it was, you know, it's. We knew President Trump was going to make an announcement about the endorsement. And the good news is maybe he watched Rove make a absolute ham head out of himself and say what he said on Fox News. And therefore Trump endorsed Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton for Texas Republican Senate. Let's bring in the man, the myth, the legend, Stephen K. Bannon. Steve, this gotta be good news as well. I, I assume.

[Steve Bannon]

Oh, my God. I wanna, I wanna pull that. I just told my staff we gotta pull that clip.

[Eric Bolling]

Carl Rove.

[Steve Bannon]

No, it was a. As you know, everybody's been pushing for this. And, and the, the internal polling's got. It got Ken up 8 points and 11 points. Caroline Rent, who's gonna be at the White House. So we're gonna. Degrasse is going to sit in for the five. It was her, you know, she came up with, with Paxton, that idea that Paxton would offer up. He would step out the race if, if, if the senator would step up and take. And take over the Save America act and convince. If Cornyn would convince Doom to do it. And of course, that was one that, that happened within 12 hours because it was very close. La Civita was very close to getting an endorsement right after their primary. And this is the way it got stopped. And if you think about a guy to bet his entire political career, everything he's ever worked for, and really make a decision in that moment, and I think that was the inflection point of this race when the president sat back and thought about a guy who's prepared to sacrifice everything for the Save America Act. And you know, Eric, you and I have talked about this a lot. I think this is much a condemnation of John Thune's management of the Senate as it was for Ken Paxton. And Ken Paxton had all the momentum, all the grassroots, all the polling, no money, but all of that. And President Trump's very close to Ken and loves Paxton, given the work he's done. But I think John Thune has been treating the Senate's been treating President Trump as a lame duck. And I think today when the Hill newspaper, that's why Trump went out and did the ballroom for an hour. We, this is we. The ballroom just finished when you came on. In fact, your hit was half as long as the president for an hour, impromptu, because he, he looked at the media the morning the Hill newspaper that had Thune. I'm not going to do the, I'm personally against the anti weaponization fund. We're not going to looking for an off ramp for the ballroom. That's the lead in the Hill. We're not doing the Save America Act. He put a shot across the bow of the United States Senate this afternoon at 12:35 on true social debt. And all of them, the big article in Politico is how furious they are at Trump. This is how, this is how they work. How furious they Trump and I would just say, hey, look, look, it's time. We need to move to take this as ultimate conclusion. We have to remove John Thune as the leader.

[Eric Bolling]

Yeah, please, he's not getting done. How did they do that? We got to hear from us, I guess. I mean, where the hell did he come from? Why?

[Steve Bannon]

Well, I think the grassroots. The grassroots. Yeah, the grassroots has to put up a huge firefight now. Tell them, hey, look, you're down in Georgia, you're down in North Carolina. These are states that should be no brainers for us. You're losing in North Carolina, you're losing in Georgia, you're going to lose in Ohio. We're going to lose the Senate. The reason is the grassroots are fired up for people like Ken Paxton.

[Eric Bolling]

So they're not fired up. Let's talk about how important Trump is. A lot of people say, oh, he lost his, his influence. I mean, Indiana, the primary, the seven folks who voted against redistricting, Republicans, six of the seven. Trump. Trump endorsed all seven of the, the challengers, six of the seven. One. That's massive influence. And then I'll go to, to Kentucky. Kentucky four. You want to, want to game that one out.

[Steve Bannon]

I think that's too, that's too nasty. I guess Massey put out an old endorsement or something from Massey. Put an old endorsement. President Trump actually went on Twitter. I think it's the only second tweet he's ever put up since he left years ago. Saying that one's, that one's too gnarly. I want to say that. But Cassidy finished third in the Senate primary. That's not, I don't think it's ever happened for a city. United States Senate. President Trump's got amazing strokes, he's got the grassroots. Plus he's sitting on $500 million of cash money. So they better get real. I think, I think we're in real trouble in the Senate unless John Th steps us.

[Eric Bolling]

Have you, have you, have you written off the House?

[Steve Bannon]

No, no, I think we, I think

[Kurt Meyer]

we can hold the House.

[Steve Bannon]

It's going to be tough, but with the redistricting. Look, we still, we still left eight seats on the table. Even given that, I think we're within a handful of. I understand President Trump's going up to Lawler's district to, you know, they say Trump's toxic. He's going to Lawler's district. I think on Friday. They're talking about to have a campaign stop, I think because of the red iss. Eric, we're within, we're within shouting distance

[Eric Bolling]

in the House of holding service again. Steve, we talk about this for 80 days now. It's the eighth day of the war. I just, I can't envision us holding the house with a four or five dollar gallon of gas. It just. Or leading into it.

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