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Charlie Kirk, a Legacy Remembered starts right now.
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Steve Bannon
Welcome, you are live. It is Sunday 21st September, year of our Lord 2025. We're live from Cardinals Stadium, the commemoration of the life and work of Charlie Kirk. Stephen K. Banner from the War room here on Real American Voice. We're going to be here for 10 hours with you all. I want to introduce my morning co host from morning morning sunrise, Dr. Gina Louden and David Brody. Guys, thank you so much.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
Thanks for having me.
Steve Bannon
We're going to start the first first off, this is historic. Never been, never been done before, particularly the cabinet coming out here, the president, the vice president. An historic day in American history. We're very fortunate to thank real America's voice. Built out a studio in the last, what, 12, 24 hours. Have us here ringside and we're going to bring everything to you, every talk, all the commemoration, the celebration of life and particularly the morning worship period. What are we going to see this for? Our audience particularly may not be the evangelical Christians of Charlie Kerr.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
You know, the one interesting thing, Steve, that I noticed is almost a filter through the different entertainers and people like that that they're going to have is that most of them have endured some sort of very personal hardship. I don't know if that's perhaps why they were asked to be part of this. I don't know. Evangelical singers, performers.
Steve Bannon
What do you mean by that? They going through a journey themselves?
Mary Kathryn Hamm
Yes, like, like one of them has battled depression, major depression issues. He's very public about it. One of them lost a child, very public about it, shared it with his audiences. I do know one thing, though, that is probably what bonded them with Charlie Kirk and that's why they're here today.
Steve Bannon
David, there's a when I talk to the media outside, coming in is Charlie Kirk at Christian Martyr.
David Brody
Oh, absolutely. There's no doubt about that. And there should be a full stop, Steve, after that sentence. Look, I think we're in the middle of a new spiritual awakening in this country. We know about the 1740s and George Whitefield and Jonathan Edwards. We know about what happened in the 1800s that obviously led to not a civil war but a reconciliation of the country coming out of the Civil War. Then you had the one in 1857 in New York City. And then, of course, the Jesus movement in 1960. I think that's exactly where we are today. We are literally broadcasting, if you think about it, not just in history, but in eternal history, if you will.
Steve Bannon
No, that's why I think it's so amazing. We're starting. The first three. The first three hours of this will be a religious service, principally evangelical preachers, but everybody brought in. And I think what is awakening America so much, this movement is all over the country now. Many people didn't know Charlie had this religious side to him. On the last weekend of his life, he went to Korea with Grace Chong from the War Room and Mo with Nina Kim. They had a turning point political part that dealt with, you know, the new Korean government that's running the ccp. But half the time he spent was an evangelical witnessing because, as you know, South Korea is one of the most evangelical countries in the world. And if you talk to Mina Kim and the people there, Charlie was unbelievable to the fact that when he was assassinated, the young Koreans took to the streets saying, I am Charlie Kirk.
David Brody
That's right. And if you look at you, if you go to YouTube and just type in Charlie Kirk sermons, he was literally in churches across this country preaching the gospel. Not for Turning Point usa, not for any sort of political movement or anything like that. It was. Open your Bibles to this page. That's what it was about. Look, I think to me, Steve, what we're seeing here today, the red, white, and blue, right? That was the attire that we were supposed to wear today, not black. And that's the point, right? I mean, red, white, and blue. You've got your signature black. And that is a fashion statement in and of itself.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
That's different.
Steve Bannon
But I just.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
That's red, white.
Steve Bannon
Charlie knew me well enough.
David Brody
That's right. He would like that, by the way.
Steve Bannon
But it's in line. Look at this. First off.
Dr. Gina Louden
Yeah.
Steve Bannon
300,000, I think ticket requests. Correct. 3 to 400,000. They can fit 100,000 people between this stadium and the hockey I have never seen. I mean, the first hour of the show was done and picked up by Terrence in Denver. And of course, Ben Berkhom are going to go back to everybody. But part of it was that the logistics of just getting in, even for the broadcast teams, the Secret Service had it such lockdown. But it's. The scale was a thing. And I'll bet you half of the people that are coming to this from around the country weren't. Didn't know about Charlie Kirk's work in his life, what they. What they've heard. And they said, you know, this guy is amazing. Right? Particularly the spiritual. The politics is very important, don't get me wrong. But his message was deeper.
David Brody
The politics is nothing without. Without Jesus in essence. Right. Charlie always saw politics as an on ramp to faith. In other words, making sure that people were really understanding Jesus at its core. You know, to me, what's interesting here is that you look at everything that Charlie stood for, right? First of all, Jesus is the biggest. It's a Venn diagram. Jesus is the big circle. Then within that Venn diagram, we have everything on display here. We have America, the Constitution, patriotism, all of that. And then if you just think about that, ultimately, what does that mean? That means that I believe that we're in a new kind of a Revolutionary War type big time period.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
Charlie, you know, you and I've known him since. How old was he when you first met him?
Steve Bannon
He was 18. Yeah, right before I came. His first job.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
Yeah. And we've known him that long. Faith wasn't something he always wore on his sleeve. Pastor Rob McCoy came along and said, you need to take this into your policy. Steve and David, we know a lot of broadcasters who don't throw their faith honestly. They consider it a private thing.
Steve Bannon
Right.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
I think that might change.
Steve Bannon
That might change. Let's go. We're gonna go to the main stage. The worship. Praise and worship has started. The music started. Let's go to the main stage. You got Dr. Gina loud, David Brody, Stephen K. Bannon, all day coverage here. Real miracle voice.
Dr. Gina Louden
So I'm not backing down from many giants. No, no. Cause I know how this story ends. Yes, I do. I know how this story ends. Come on, say I'm gon victory. I'm gonna see a victory. For the battle belongs to you, Lord. I'm gonna see a victory. I'm gonna see a victory. For the battle belongs to you, Lord. Come on. We believe we serve a God who is victorious. And he turns things around for our.
Steve Bannon
Good, for his glory.
Dr. Gina Louden
Come on, declare this with me. Cause you take what the enemy meant for evil and you turn it for good. You turn it for good. You believe that today you take what the enemy meant for evil and you turn it for good. You turn it for good. Every time. You take what the enemy meant for evil and you turn it for good. You turn it for good. You take what the enemy meant for evil and you turn it for good. You turn it for good. I'm going to see your victory. I'm going to see a victory for the battle belong to you, Lord. I'm going to see a victory. I'm going to see a victory for the battle belong to you, Lord. You take what the enemy meant for evil and you turn it for good. You turn it for good.
Choir/Singers
Good.
Dr. Gina Louden
You take what the enemy meant for evil and you turn it for good. You turn it for good. You take. You take what the enemy meant for evil and you turn it for good.
Choir/Singers
You turn it for good.
Dr. Gina Louden
You take what the enemy meant for evil and you turn it for good. You turn it for good.
Ben Berkwam
Yes, God.
Dr. Gina Louden
I believe that today that God is working all things together for his good, for his glory. He's taking this situation, he's taking your.
Ben Berkwam
Story, and he's turning things around.
Steve Bannon
I love what the scripture tells us.
Dr. Gina Louden
That if any man be in Christ.
Steve Bannon
He'S a new creation. The old is gone, all things are made new.
Dr. Gina Louden
And so we step into a new identity.
Steve Bannon
I want us to sing about this this morning.
Dr. Gina Louden
We are who Jesus says we are.
Choir/Singers
I was lost but he brought me in Love for me Always love for me. Who am I that the highest king would welcome? I was lost but he brought me in no wisdom for me. Always love for me who the song sets free? Hope is free and deep.
Dr. Gina Louden
I'm a child of God, Yes, I.
Choir/Singers
Am Hell.
Dr. Gina Louden
Free last he has ra his grace runs deep. While I was a sa to say Jesus died for me.
Choir/Singers
Yes, he died for me who the song set free. Always free indeed.
Dr. Gina Louden
Child of God. Yes, I am in my Father's house there's a place for me. I'm a child of God, yes, I am. Well, now, because of what Jesus has done, we've got a new name. We've got a new identity. I want us to make these declarations because we believe them to be true in Christ. Come on, sing with me. I am chosen, not forsaken. I am who you say I am. And you are for me, not against me. I am who you say I am. Come on, everybody. I am chosen, not forsaken. I am who you say I am. You are for me, not against me. I am who you say I am. I am chosen, not forsaken. I am who you say I am. You are for me, not against me. I am who you say.
Choir/Singers
Yes, I am who you say I am. Yes, I am who you say I am.
Dr. Gina Louden
Who the song sets free.
Choir/Singers
Who is free indeed.
Dr. Gina Louden
I'm a child of God, yes, I am in my Father.
Choir/Singers
There'S a place.
Dr. Gina Louden
For me I'm a child of God Yes, I am.
Steve Bannon
The Cardinal Stadium with Cardinal Stadium in Glendale, I guess Arizona, outside of Phoenix, the stadium. We're going to be packed today. People coming in three o'clock in the morning. They were outside lining up the traffic. Coming with David Brody and Dr. Gina Louden. Walk our audience through the first part of this, the spiritual part. The combination of music, certain preachers that were close to Charlie. What would audience see, particularly people maybe not that familiar with evangelical Christianity. And what would be the purpose? What are we trying to accomplish?
Mary Kathryn Hamm
Well, I think one thing is they want to make everybody welcome. They want to set the spiritual tone. Steve, you know, David Brody prays every single day before our show. And it's just, I think it's getting us into the right mindset. Don't you, David, before everybody comes in. So, yes, there will be pastors, influential people in Charlie's life. It'll be less political, more spiritual, very important tone to set. Because I think that the work that this audience is getting ready to be called to do is big work. And I think David Brody, I don't know about you, but I think this will be an altar call like we haven't seen since Billy Graham Day.
Steve Bannon
Wow.
David Brody
Yeah, I agree. As a matter of fact, Pastor Rob a Coy, who is Charlie's pastor, and by the way, Charlie dubbed him his pastor.
Steve Bannon
Yes.
David Brody
Declared. He's not dubbing himself that. Yes, we'll speak and that'll be after 11:00am Eastern. So what is that? Well, I'm sorry, 11:00am Phoenix time.
Steve Bannon
Yeah, yeah. Around 2:00'. Clock. Right. He will be kind of the transition, the last speaker. Do you think we'll see a altar call?
David Brody
Yeah.
Steve Bannon
If you had an altar call that could take. The president may be speaking.
David Brody
Yeah. We might be here for a day or two. Yeah, for sure.
Steve Bannon
No, because you'll have a turnout. In fact, David, could you lead us in a short prayer?
David Brody
I'd love to. Lord, we just come to you right now. We just thank you so much that you put us here for this moment. Not just us, I don't even mean real America's voice and us here in this skybox, if you will. I just pray, Lord, specifically, that everybody that is attending this and watching it on streaming, Lord, this is a divine appointment. I just pray, Lord, that you just reach them, that there's free will involved, that your free will reigns, that they will be able to accept the wonderful promise that you have for every single one of them and wanting their lives to Be better. And Lord, we just thank you for that. Romans 8:28 verse that Charlie loved, Lord, that verse that knows that all things will together from God to those who love him. And Charlie loved you dearly. So I just thank you Lord for the. What you are going to do in advance. We pray for an expectant heart. Even though Charlie and what happened to him was just horrible. We know that you're a loving God and will take care of it from here on out. And I just pray that in your name, in Jesus name, amen.
Steve Bannon
St. Paul's teaching to the Romans. Teaching Romans. Why was it special to Charlie Kirk? Why is that verse so important to him in his work?
David Brody
There's a lot of reasons. But you know, what he has talked about specifically is that he knows that there is a God in control and that is very important. And you know, one of the other lines that he loved, it wasn't from the Bible. King Solomon actually said, this too shall pass. He loved that. And they both had that same feeling, right? Romans 8:28 and this too shall pass. That same idea that, like, look, you know, when you're down, it's okay, this too shall pass. And when you're up, by the way, hey, you know what?
Choir/Singers
What?
David Brody
I'm keeping you humble because that too shall pass. You'll be coming down a little bit.
Dr. Gina Louden
You need God.
Steve Bannon
The way that Charlie used to explain that he said he'd get up in the morning when it was going great. He realized, hey, it's going great, but you know, there's going to be troubles ahead. Yes, right. Trials and tribulations. And when he was down, that the sunlight, the sunlit up is just ahead of us. We just got to keep fighting.
David Brody
For sure.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
That's God sculpting us. You know, nowhere in the Bible does it have. Never say life is going to be easy, especially for Christians. But it's so much more meaningful. And I think we're seeing that. I think we're. You know, when you looked at. I ended up hopping in a car with two random guys just to try to get here. I know, not. Not advisable, but they were from Indiana and they met Charlie. They never met Charlie. Rather, they never met Charlie, they were from Indiana and they just feel so much.
Steve Bannon
This is, I'm telling you, half of this audio, half of the 300,000 are people that were not familiar with Charlie's work or did not see him until after the assassination.
David Brody
Yes.
Steve Bannon
Then this is why it's been, you know, in Huntington Beach, California, which has gone full MAGA but I think we had 10,000 people the other day in San Clemente. 15,000 you're having. This is the beginning of a great awakening.
David Brody
Well, let me just walk along.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
Last night, he said at the Turning.
David Brody
Point headquarters, I went over to TP USA headquarters and that was in process, totally impromptu, 500 to 600 people there singing Amazing Grace. And of course, it goes for blocks and blocks, the vigil afterwards. Steve, 32nd story. Steve, my Uber driver, he said, I drove Charlie Kirk a couple years ago in my Uber. He goes, we had their best conversation. And then he says, I was a, I'm a Catholic who turned away from my faith. He's a Vietnam vet. He became an alcoholic. And he said that when Charlie was assassinated, he said, I dusted off my Bible and now I'm bringing my kids back to church. And he's here today, by the way. Great story.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
And he is the one who's going to replace Charlie. You know, people say, yes, Charlie, it's that cab driver, next man that brought me over. It's the next man up, as you always say.
David Brody
Steve, great point.
Steve Bannon
Christianity has been on the defensive for a long time. Is this where we pivot and people go on offense that, that to proclaim Christianity and live it like Charlie loved it?
David Brody
I, I think so, as a matter of fact, I, I, I don't say I know so because none of us know so. But I, I'm pretty sure this is a, a key turning point. Charlie used to talk about the soft gospel, right? This idea that, that it's, oh, just a bunch of butterflies and rainbows. And it's not that there's the Ten Commandments, that there is sin in the world. And you, you, you don't need a savior if you don't think there's much sin in the world, but if you know there's sin in the world, then you need a savior. And, and he talked about, and, and I preached about, I preach, I've gone to churches and preached about this. The black robe regiment.
Steve Bannon
Yes.
David Brody
Right. We need a new black robe regiment in this country.
Steve Bannon
We wouldn't have had an American Revolution if we didn't have the black regiment.
David Brody
That was it.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
And that's how come we know, that's how come we know that pastors are more than allowed and more than free to preach the truth from the pulpit because of the black robe regimen. Who did it first at the foundation of our.
Caroline Wren
That's right.
Steve Bannon
We're going to toss it back to the main stage. There's amazing music. The religious Part of our ceremony today, the commemoration of Charlie Kirk. Let's go back to the main stage.
Dr. Gina Louden
Oh God, my God, I need you. Oh God, my God, I need you now. How I need you now. You're rock or rock of ages? I I'm standing on your faithfulness. On your faithfulness. It's your faithfulness I'm standing on.
Steve Bannon
Come on. He hears us when we pray. Sing this out.
Ben Berkwam
You hurt your children then.
Dr. Gina Louden
You hear your children now. You are the same God. You are the same God. You answered prayers back then and you will answer. We believe you are the same. Yes, you are. You are the same God. You were provided, you are providing now. You are the same God. You are the same God. You moved in power God move in power now. You are the same God. You are the same God. You worship the name. You are a healer God. You are the same God. You are the same God. You were a savior. You are the savior now. You are the same God. You are the same God. Oh God, my God, I need you. Oh, God, my God, I need you now. I need you now. Oh, rocko Rock of ages. I'm standing on your faithfulness. Oh, you, faithfulness. Oh, God, my God, I need you. Oh, God, my God, I need you now. I need you now. Oh, a rock of ages. I'm standing on your faithfulness, Lord, I'm your faithfulness. Your faithfulness we stand for.
Steve Bannon
Yeah. Dr. Gina Louden. Dr. Gina Louden and David Brody, where David Brody will be back with us in a second. We're gonna have people up here all day, throughout the day sharing also. Ben Berkwam is down on the floor inside. David Zier is outside. The best part, the two best parts of the four hours we did last Sunday at Kennedy center were Sean Foyt and the religious part of it. It was very religious at first. Amazing music. And then Ben Berkwam just took the microphone outside and talked to random people coming in. Unbelievable. Better. Better analysis and observations of get from anybody. We're going to do the same here today. Massive crowd outside logistically. And I really want to give a tip of the hand to Turning Point, the Turning Point team who only had, you know, a couple of days to put this together. Because when the Secret Service takes over, and as you've seen from the speakers today, there has never been in American history a concentration of cabinet official, major cabinet officials. The president, President, the vice president. I think the speaker of the House. I think Johnson's here. I think at least he's on the list to with the security that. That brings in the Secret Service. So the Secret Service is usually pretty tough to begin with, but they're, you know, very. This thing today was amazing, amazing logistics, however, given the Secret Service and they called the shots. You know, you had a few. You had a few issues out front, and you're going to continue have Fisher. But that's just, that's just what it is.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
Steve, do you think there will be surprise guests today?
Steve Bannon
I think so. I hope so. I think, look, the list itself is fantastic. Amazing. And if you. The president is scheduled. Everybody's got three minutes except for the president's got an hour. I always take the over. I always take the over. No, he's. Look, Charlie Kirk was very close to him personally. You know, he's like a Don Jr type personality. I think he felt like he's almost one of his sons. Charlie was. People don't realize in the, not just in the campaign, obviously, what he did in the ground game, but from the victory all the way through here recently, Charlie was a major advisor in and out of the White House all the time. He had one of those passes. You can just. And he was in. Sergio Gore will start off the. What we do, the transition, right? To the, to the celebration of life with more the political types.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
Right.
Steve Bannon
Sergio is a hit of personnel and one of the reasons he's been so close to Charlie for years. But Charlie was really his deputy. Charlie was the guy doing the screenings for us. This is Maggot. This is not maga, Right?
Mary Kathryn Hamm
Exactly.
Steve Bannon
This is maggot. This is not mega.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
That's exactly.
David Brody
So, you know, Steve, I'm wondering, wondering from, I guess that Dr. Phil type question, how are you processing all of this? I mean, what has this been like for you as you kind of go through this?
Steve Bannon
Well, you know, Charlie, I think his first job was Breitbart after Andrew died. And, and you know, I was running it and he was just. I think he did write some opinion pieces. But the people that were associated with making Breitbart financially go, I think was Charlie's first big donor. And they took out. They took a total fly. I think Charlie was 18 or 19 team. His pitch was, I want to take student governments and take them over to all the universities, and there we'll train the next generation of leaders both in politics and leadership. And, you know, turning point, it started with nothing, right? This is the amazing. It's one thing to have a vision because other people try the college campus thing too. I was quite frankly saying, look, dude, the odds of this along so many people have failed. And I think the reason he succeeded was his Christianity. That was different than anybody else. And that's what brought out, particularly young men. People have to realize when you compare and contrast. We're not going to talk about any of this today, but you compare and contrast the investigation, the assassination with the lifestyle and how they've been so deformed versus what Charlie Kirk brought to those campuses. It is literally night and day. It's. It's lightness and. And evil.
David Brody
You know, as everybody knows, he didn't go to college. He wanted to go to West Point. That was his dream, to go to West Point. He didn't get in, but he got into all of these other lackluster colleges that he was like, no, I don't think so. And it was Bill Montgomery, you know, at the time, his mentor, who was 72, I believe at the time, he's older, who said, you don't need college. This is ridiculous. No, no, you've got. You've got a gift.
Steve Bannon
You've got a gift.
David Brody
Go. And so we took a gap year, which turned into 13 gap years is really what it ended up becoming.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
Such a pace of kids thinking, hey, what can I do with my life? Do I really want to go spend four years being indoctrinated? And hey, you know what? For some skills, it's a great thing. For others, they have the courage now to go, wait, I want to think about this. I want to be conscious about it.
Steve Bannon
I think it's St. Paul, because St. Paul is Greek. He was Greek and Jewish. He. Before he converted and became, you know, one of the great church fathers he talked about. Was it charism? Right. About charisma, about that. But charisma is being touched by God to further the word of God. That's, I think, what Charlie had, and I think that that is going to be developed more in the days and weeks ahead. Because I said from the first day you were shot that, you know, this guy's a Christian martyr. He would go into the lion's den of the worst that we've allowed Western civil. Western civilization was saved by the university and the monks in the Dark Ages. The formation of them now, it's been the thing that's destroying Western civilization.
David Brody
Yeah, right.
Steve Bannon
Like, for instance, the, the. The other day when Utah Valley came back, they had a huge story in the AP about the first day back at school and buried. The buried lead was. They had stations set up around the campus to hand out stuffed animals, candy and. And town st. For the students I said, that infantilism, that mentality is what has destroyed these kids. Right, right.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
Hand him a bullhorn and hand him a flag.
Steve Bannon
That's Charlie Kirk.
Choir/Singers
Yeah.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
And some boots. Right. Because we got to get to work. You know, one of the things that I think is so important to note, as I know there are a lot of young people watching today, there are a lot of people that are influential in the lives of young people is to say what you know, Charlie wasn't born Charlie. Charlie, Charlie evolved. We watched him evolve. We remember when Charlie was an 18 year old kid who didn't inject his skin into his politics, who did have some various questions and opinions that he later had answered. Charlie didn't start out Charlie. So if you're not starting out Charlie, this doesn't matter if you're 14 or 15.
Steve Bannon
So important. I had a chance to work. I had a chance to work with two of the two people that are irreplaceable in these younger generations. Generations. Andrew Breitbart was my partner.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
Yes.
Steve Bannon
Charlie Kirk was a young guy. And then we, both of those guys, Andrew. When I first got to meet Andrew, he would be walking back and forth a little basketball court he had in his backyard and Alex Marlowe and Johnny Khan and all the team would be working. And I asked, I said, what is Andrew? He's on the phone constantly. He was doing. Back then it was blog talk radio. Andrew would do literally, literally four or five hours of interviews in small town America, blog talk radio. And I said, why are you doing all this small stuff? And he said, the first interview you ever did, the guy, he has this pitch and his talking points and the guy asked him a question and he froze already dead space because he just didn't know the process. So he worked. The Andrew Breitbart you saw was the work of Andrew Breitbart. That made him what he was. The same with Charlie. In Charlie's early presentations, people should know it's not the Charlie that you saw in the outer years. Charlie worked every day not just to spread the word on politics. He also worked on Charlie Kirk. Yes, to become a master communicator. Right. And a leader with humility. But that. And people say, well, I can't do it. I get nervous, I can't do it. It's too much a commitment. Remember two of the greatest leaders this country's ever produced, Andrew Breitbart and Charlie Kirk, made themselves and they did it every day by just doing reps like you do in playing sports.
David Brody
I remember Andrew Breitbart having. I was shooting baskets with him in that. On that court in West Hollywood. And I remember. And afterwards we would sit on the couch and he would watch the Dodger game for like two hours and just want to just basically go through all the stats. He knew everything. He was such a great mind.
Steve Bannon
He and Larry, solo, they sit there and watch Dodger baseball. New Dodger baseball. Better than anything right there, that little thing. And he'd get up and do those interviews and come in and he was, he was the editor of Drudge. Then he would get on the big computer. Computer and pull on Drudge. It was amazing.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
I remember that he met with my children who were children, children and would start talking to them about politics and their role in it and how they could make a difference and spent so much time, so much like Charlie. Really what Andrew did was a little bit like that.
Steve Bannon
This is another thing I want to say is that you can't. Those types of individuals are not replaceable.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
You could.
Steve Bannon
When Andrew Breitbart died unexpectedly, you had a bad heart condition. When he died at like 41 or 40, I told people, his work can go on. We can make this thing greater. You can get his message out in Breitbart today. But the new site is bigger than it had under one. Andrew's blog, it is bigger. These guys committed. You know, Andrew's been dead for 10 years. The same with Charlie. It's next man up. Or I see these videos saying, I am Charlie Kirk. Or I see in Korea on the streets, these young Korean men saying, I am Charlie Kirk. That's how his work. You cannot replace Charlie Kirk. Erica is going to be amazing, but I think she'd be the first to tell you, hey, I'm going to chairman CEO and we're going to do our greatest days are ahead of us. Yes, but I can't replace my husband.
David Brody
It makes me think of the baseball analogy, right? Bullpen by committee. In other words, everybody's got. You got to have a good bullpen.
Steve Bannon
Shoulder to the wheel.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
Steve, I want to ask you something really sincerely. Would you be doing what you're doing, as huge as you are, if it weren't for Andrew?
Steve Bannon
No, no. Mentor 100%. Learned so much, by the way, when I went to prison. Well, first off, when I took over, I took over the campaign and left Breitbart. I called Alex Marlin, Raheem Kassam and said, hey, we had, we had the three hour day show on Sirius xm. I said the show Monday morning, the show's yours and just take over the editorial. Next man up, same thing. I went to prison. I didn't tell Natalie. I didn't tell these guys anything. I said, hey, I'm not going to tell you how to do the show, but come Monday afternoon, I'm hitting the. I'm going to prison at noon. I'll do the morning show. The afternoon is yours. You have to have next man up. History shows us, right? The history of Christianity shows us, right? It was a very small thing when Christ died, right? And it expanded and it expanded after the apostolic age, right? When all the apostles had gone, it spread because it was next man up, next woman up. And this is what, this is what the work of Charlie Kirk is going to show us.
David Brody
And I want to read you a Charlie Kirk quote. There's so many of them. But this applies to exactly what you said, which is next man up and to expand, you know, expand and expand. He said this, here's the quote. Exactly. He says, my call is, what he said is to fight evil, to proclaim the truth. Well, that's what they were doing back in the day. I mean, that's what the apostles were doing, you know, and now it's that bullpen by committee, all of us having to go out and fight evil and proclaim the truth. I'm not convinced at all. As a matter of fact, I know the answer. And the answer is no, you cannot. Good and evil do not, cannot coexist. They just can't. So this idea of unity and Kumbaya. Give me a break. Give me a break.
Steve Bannon
You can't do it. There's not, there's nothing. If you see what's around what's around, Charlie, and what's coming out there, you can't unify with that. You can't, you can't hug this out. And here's the power, the Christian message and Charlie's message is totally non violent, right? Look at all these gatherings we had. There's no burnt cars, there's no riding, there's no people boarding up their window. But the power of this and the power of it is, is nonviolent. But it's coming from a very deep place. Particularly people that were not familiar with Charlie Kirk's work when he was alive. Now they hear this message go, hey, this guy was assassinated. This is going to be as powerful for this generation as Kennedy's assassination was in, in, in, in, in in 1960s. Okay, let's just reset for a minute. We're here at the Cardinal Stadium in Glendale, Arizona, right Outside of Phoenix, we are doing the first couple of hours of a praise and worship service with some top musicians. I think we're going to have some, some of the top preachers. People that, that Charlie was very impressed. Remember, Charlie had David, you know, this better not.
David Brody
He.
Steve Bannon
He had the Turning point faith.
David Brody
Yes.
Steve Bannon
Had 2,000. Was it 2,000 preachers were associated with.
David Brody
At least people like Jack.
Steve Bannon
Tell us about that.
David Brody
Yeah, Jack hibbs, Pastor Rob McCoy. I mean you just go down the list he was with. They all influenced him to a great degree. And you know, it's interesting with Charlie, everybody talks about, you know, you saying about his faith. Right. And that his faith was more. He wore it more on his sleeve later in his life, which is true. He gave his life to Christ. I've done some reporting on this. He gave his life to Christ in fifth grade at Christian Heterogeneity Academy there in Illinois. And then after, when he started Turning Point when he was 18, that's where things were just getting a little intense and he started to recommit a little bit more to his faith. And then what's interesting is he went to Israel in 2018 and he. This is his word saying Israel changed his life in 2018 and 2019. What was interesting, he says the best thing that his parents did, when his parents did a lot of great things, loved his parents, that they took him out of a liberal Presbyterian church when he was 12 or 13 years old and got him in a conservative, got him in a conservatory.
Steve Bannon
I know, I know. Stonewall Church, Jackson Presbyterian. Not, not.
David Brody
That was nicely timed.
Steve Bannon
That's perfect. Do me a favor. I want you to walk through your journey for a second because I was telling Gina beforehand a lot of the controversies about Israel now and we'll get into the politics. That's all to come next couple of weeks. But his trip to Israel, definitely, he told me just definitely. As Andrew, as it did. Andrew Breitbart, you are kind of originally Christianity was a sect of Judaism for at least a couple of years that you had to be Jewish. And they converted. Now that didn't. At about roughly 36 A.D. three years afterward, the Pentecost, right. The Holy Spirit came. They dropped that requirement. But at the beginning you had to be Jewish and then you had to convert.
David Brody
That's right. And as a matter of fact, I grew up as a reformed Jew in New York. I mean, I grew up on the mean streets of the Upper west side, latte sipping crowd, the Zabars crowd, crowd. And I was all.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
And I'm Telling you, you don't want to cross this guy. I've seen someone cross him once. I'm like, holy cow. Where'd that come from?
Steve Bannon
Well, I appreciate that.
David Brody
True. But look, I grew up Jewish. Liberals can be.
Steve Bannon
You went to a Reformed synagogue?
David Brody
Yeah, I got bar mitzvah and everything.
Steve Bannon
So you learned the whole. You had to learn all the Torah, everything?
David Brody
Some of the Torah, Yeah, yeah.
Steve Bannon
Reforms a little different than.
David Brody
Right. We barely got through, but we got there. But Temple Emanuel in New York City.
Steve Bannon
Yeah, absolutely.
David Brody
Which was the big one, obviously. But then, long story short, I'll just keep it brief, but I gave my life to Christ. When I was 23 years old, my wife, a nice Gentile, introduced me to Jesus. And I said to. I said to her, at the time when we were dating, I said, I will never believe in Jesus. Just, you know, I'll never believe in Jesus.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
My husband said that, too.
David Brody
And now, not only am I a born again evangelical Christian, but, you know, I do some work for the Christian Broadcasting Network, which is kind of. Yeah. So God has a sense of humor. The fact that he put me at the Christian Broadcasting Network as well. So that's kind of interesting.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
I think it's important, too, to talk about Erica's role in Charlie's transformation. You know, he was such an advocate of marriage. All of Turning Point are advocates of marriage and young marriage and lots of children and all the things. And these are throwback ideas. These are not popular on college campuses right now, right?
Steve Bannon
Well, I actually think they are popular, but it's not the way those kids look from kindergarten all the way up. They are essentially, you know, a third of the teachers are terrorists that are trying to form them. If you look at the radical sel. You look at all this radical. The way they're formed, I think underneath, though, and that's why Charlie brought such a big audience, because a big part of Turning Point people should realize when Charlie was going, he's not just talking about practical MAGA politics or Republican politics or tax cuts. It was Turning Point family. It was turning Point faith. I happen to think in his explosive growth and his message getting out is that underneath that those people are searching.
David Brody
Right.
Steve Bannon
Particularly young men who have been told, you're bad, you know, you're everything evil. You've got to change. We have to change you. We have to give you drugs. That's what I think underneath about the family, about marrying early and about having lots of kids. Right. And about being a good dad. I think that that is right below the surface. That's why his message. Remember, if you look even at Utah, a lot of those young guys are coming. They're kind of hanging in the back. Yes, right.
David Brody
Yes.
Steve Bannon
They want to see what this is about. What is this Charlie Kirk guy? What is he talking about? But then you see him leaning in, you know, about a third of the way through when he starts talking.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
Well, I think Erica had great influence. I just want to say that on his face. I know Erica. Everybody's praying for her. A lot of people think, well, she's Charlie's wife. That's what she is. Why is she taking over Turning Point? Well, let me tell you, she ran a company before she ever met Charlie. She was already. Remember, she was applying for a job with Turning Point. To get an appointment with Charlie. To apply for a job, you got to already be somebody who's out there fighting. Nobody goes one on one to me.
Steve Bannon
And he turned her down.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
Yeah.
Steve Bannon
No job.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
I think it's so important to say she was a strong woman, capable business owner, evangelist. Hello, Cole. Avid. I follow her Bible. 365 work that she does. She had all of that in place and she married Charlie and they became together such a force. That's the power of marriage. That's the power of God in a marriage.
Steve Bannon
Hold that for a second. What I'm going to do is go to Steve. We have Steve Gruber on the media riser. Our own Steve Gruber. Let's go to Steve, and then we'll come back to Dr. Gina, David and myself up here in the skybox. Let's go. Do we have Gruber? Steve Gruber, you're down there on the. On the, on the riser with all our best friends, the mainstream media. Put us in the room down there, brother.
Steve Gruber
It's a special place to be, Steve. Work harder, be better. Charlie wore a red bracelet every single day. Work harder, be better. Is that right? Anyhow, everybody here today has a red bracelet. Everybody here today is Charlie Kirk. It's his work ethic that you got to keep touching on his dedication to Christ and his work ethic. Charlie Kirk was killed for daring to have public debates on college campuses to spread the word of Christ. And here he is being memorialized by people that never knew him. I mean, I'm watching this fill up here. I'll put you in the room here, Steve. I've been watching as every level of this stadium fills. I thought saw the lower bowls fill, then the second one. Now they're up into the nosebleed seats and they're filling in all the way around me to celebrate the life of a guy that most of these people never knew, never had the privilege to meet like we did, never had a privilege to have a conversation like we did. Charlie Kirk, at 31 years of age, reached beyond his years. So far, it's hard to even calculate the number of people that have converted to Christianity. The story that Ben Berkhwam told a few minutes ago about the guy dusting off his Bible, throwing away the whiskey bottle, I mean, that's happening here and all over. What was the last number I saw? 65,000 new chapters of Turning Point USA. I think the word miracle might work right in that sentence. Look, Charlie Kirk is so much bigger today than he was a few days ago. It's a terrible, terrible price to pay. But my God, look around. This is a turning point. Maybe the fourth turning. Bringing America back to its Christian roots, to its constitutional roots, to who we are as Americans. It's pretty special to be here, I'll tell you that.
Steve Bannon
Talk to us about the media. I heard the media request from Andrew Colvitt and Tyler Boyer, his two kind of right hand men, that there's more media requests here and people arriving in the media here, Steve, then for the Super Bowl. Am I correct on that?
Steve Gruber
That's what I understand. Let me tell you something else. So we jump in with the, the Uber driver this morning and we know that the traffic's backed up because David Brody was an early riser, he was on the movies warning us we got traffic problems, right? And I said, the Uber driver, what happened this morning? He said at 3am they started having traffic jams. I look across process media riser. I've been to Trump rallies, I've been to super bowl events, I've been to big gatherings. I've never seen anything like it. The media from all over the world is here and they all wanted access. And I'm telling you, as I look around here, this place is filling right to the rafters. It's remarkable. More media, more people, more hearts being changed, more minds being changed. And that's what Charlie was fighting for. The opportunity to change hearts and minds on confidence college campuses, which, let's be honest, that is the battlefield for the future where professors and others are trying to indoctrinate these kids. And Charlie's like, stop. We can do better. We can be closer. We can be community again. That's what's remarkable.
Steve Bannon
We're doing live, Nonstop coverage for 10 hours. Gonna throw it to Studio 6P in the evening. Let's go to the main stage as we continue with the celebratory praise and worship and the commemoration of the life and work of Charlie Clark.
Dr. Gina Louden
The Universe Display every voice Listen to my soul My savior God to me how great and how great I How great thou.
Steve Bannon
Art.
Dr. Gina Louden
This seems my soul my sa. Send him to die I scarce can take it that on that cross my burden gladly he blessed to take away my sin Come on.
David Brody
Here we go.
Dr. Gina Louden
Every voice lift him up. How great you are. How great I. How great I was how great thou was how great thou. When Christ shall come Wish out of acclamation and take me home what joy shall fill my God Then I shall.
Choir/Singers
Bow.
Dr. Gina Louden
In humble adoration.
Choir/Singers
My God how.
Dr. Gina Louden
Great my soul oh, my Savior God.
Choir/Singers
To thee.
Dr. Gina Louden
How great thou. How great I Jesus, how great you.
Choir/Singers
Are.
Dr. Gina Louden
Savior God to thee how great how great thou art. How great thou art this is my soul my. Come on. Every voice how great. How great how great. This sings my soul My savior God to the how great thou art.
Choir/Singers
How great.
Caroline Wren
Come on.
Dr. Gina Louden
Praise the Lord. Today.
Steve Bannon
We'Re gonna bring in the great Jack Bosobic. Jack has join us. I'd like to. As we're doing a. With Jack, can we take the other camera? I want to sweep and show the audience exactly the layout, the logistics of the VIP, the media, the print media, the VIPs, the. The broadcast media and the other. Jack, have you ever seen anything like this in your life?
Jack Posobic
No, I haven't. Steven. You know, Charlie always wanted to do a stadium and he did it. And specifically he talked about the Cardinal Stadium. He said, oh, he said, guys, this is the vision. We're gonna get there. And he started small. He started in, you know, the airport Ramada and, And he just kept building.
Steve Bannon
He wanted this Amfest this year in December.
Jack Posobic
I know he wanted it here. It was.
Steve Bannon
He.
Jack Posobic
They were trying to get it, they were looking at numbers, but it's it. It at this point he probably would get it. I don't know if he didn't reserve it on time. But see, the stadium, the owners, the, the. The officials here have been incredible for us. They came through, they got the permits, they got everything. Think of, think of everything that turning point USA had to do in just 10 days. They were able to put together this, which is a Super bowl level event that they didn't even know they were going to do.
Steve Bannon
It's beyond a Super bowl level 300000 tickets. 300,000.
Jack Posobic
And you know about you have you.
Steve Bannon
Had the most unique, unique collection of officials in the history of The u.
Jack Posobic
S. Government, the president about next door.
Steve Bannon
Right. With the hockey. Who had overflow the hockey ring.
Jack Posobic
Our overflow is the stadium across the street. Yes, we've got that too. They put this all together in 10 days.
Steve Bannon
3000-003005-00000 ticket requests. 100,000 people actually get here today between the stadium and the hockey stadium. 100,000 put together in four or five days. This is, this is the super bowl. There's more media here than for the super bowl. And you've never had a security situation where you had the president states, the vice president, the chain of command, secretary of war, a secretary of state. I mean, it is the most. And all the most prominent leaders in the maga movement all here and put together in five days.
Jack Posobic
And not for a government official, not for a diplomat. Charlie was family. Charlie was family. And when something happens to family, you gather the family. And that's what's going on here today. These people, they're not here because Charlie was the CEO of turning point or because he had a great show or even because he, you know, best debater in the country. No, they're here because Charlie was a friend, because Charlie was the brother. Charlie was our brother. And this is what you do when.
Steve Bannon
You lose a brother. And half of the people here, there are the 300,000. I'm not so sure how much they knew about Charlie Kirk's work until afterwards. And then they saw his witness. It's brought in people from around the country. People are here from everywhere. I mean, when you. You see in the parking lot, they're coming and where the tags of the cars they've driven from Maine, they've driven from everywhere.
Jack Posobic
And we. I've been at turning point headquarters since this happened, and I'll go out to the vigil from time to time, and we're doing media hits or sometimes just we did rosary with Catholics or Catholics, or we'll go out to just be with people. People come from all over the world. People flying in from all over the world, Europe, Asia, South America. People have been coming in and, and, and there's so much more because Charlie, he left behind such an extraordinary body of work. And that body of work is now expanding far beyond anything that, you know, we always sit there, you know, get more shares, get more shares. And now suddenly people are saying, how can I get more of Charlie Kirk? And we have these incredible recordings and, and we just, we got. It's, it's. It's fun, you know, almost undescribable.
David Brody
Jack. Jack. If he were Here today. What would he think of what he. What is going on here today? Have you thought about that? Like what?
Jack Posobic
I don't need to think about it because I know exactly what he would say. Charlie would say. Charlie would say, no empty seats.
Dr. Gina Louden
All right?
Jack Posobic
No empty seats. Make sure we get them all in there.
Dr. Gina Louden
Everything's good.
Jack Posobic
Security's good. Everybody's got water outside. It's getting hot out there. When Charlie's in the. And you know, are the donors good?
Steve Bannon
Donors are happy. You know, when Charlie's in business mode.
Jack Posobic
He'S in business mode.
Steve Bannon
The President of the United States is scheduled to speak for an hour.
Jack Posobic
Greg.
Steve Bannon
Everybody else got three minutes. I've taken. By the way, I've taken the over with. You know, I got to. I always take the over.
Jack Posobic
Let me tell you this. On the. On the crib sheet that I got, the president did not have a duration. We all got it. We all got an allotted time.
Steve Bannon
And then it just says, look at this right here.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
Because he's not going to stick to it no matter what. We know that. Jack, I want to ask you what scripture is going through your mind today or even famous Charlie quotes? Whatever. Whatever's just in your head today. As you're. As you're making it through this day, getting ready this morning with your beautiful wife and family. Two sweet babies. I saw here.
Jack Posobic
Well, we. We prayed the glorious mysteries today. It is Sunday, and we did that. We do that every Sunday. We pray that we did that with the family.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
And you have. You tell them what.
Jack Posobic
Got the rosary. And actually, someone just gave me. I don't have it with me right now, but I just got a. A chaplet of the seven sorrows. We're going to be doing a chaplet of the seven sorrows in honor of Charlie as well. Walking through the sorrows, sorrows that our Lord went through. And I just can't. Something Tanya Tay said to me, and she was talking about St. Stephen and how he was martyred. And they say right before in Acts, right before Stephen was martyred, he saw the face of God. He saw the face of Christ. And she said, it's like we're living through the Bible. It's like we're living through biblical times. And Tanya Tay said that.
Caroline Wren
And I.
Jack Posobic
And I feel. I feel like we are, and we all feel. And I want to try to address that when I. When I go up today that what does all of this mean? And what will it mean 10 years from now, 20 years from now, 100 years from now? Will this Be the point that the Christian men of the west finally say, we are drawing the line. And if, and if you take down Charlie, then we're all going to take his place right on that line.
David Brody
God gives us free will. So that gets right into action from here.
Jack Posobic
Correct. And that's what Charlie was all about. Inspiring people to get out of the seat and stand up.
Steve Bannon
Charlie was bookended on Real America's Voice. I'm a traditional Catholic. Roman Catholic. You are too. Charlie was evangelical. Talk to us about Charlie's witness and what the power, particularly that witness became more. More powerful over the years. And I think it's the reason that there's something going on here that's more powerful than just regular politics.
Jack Posobic
We know Charlie, you know, he would say when he's evangelical or he took that as a verb to be. To evangelize. And that's. And that's what he was doing. See, what people don't understand is that Charlie was. Charlie was conning everyone. You say, oh, it's a political event. Come out for the political event. And then. And all the students come in and he said, throws all the politics to the side and he says, boom. Gospel.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
Boom.
Jack Posobic
Corinthians.
Dr. Gina Louden
Boom.
Jack Posobic
Hitting you with Deuteronomy.
Dr. Gina Louden
Boom.
Jack Posobic
And he knew it, chapter and verse. And that wasn't some parlor trick. You know, there'd be. It'd be late at night and Charlie would say, hey Jack, I just finished this five hour Hillsdale great courses on. On Deuteronomy.
Steve Bannon
You gotta listen all five hours. And we're going to talk about it tomorrow on air.
Jack Posobic
Jack. Yeah, Charlie, I'll get to it.
David Brody
It.
Jack Posobic
You know, and he would do that. That's what he would do. The guy did not rest the most ag. He took one day off and it was the most aggressive day off because he's doing everything else but the.
Steve Bannon
He took the traditional Sabbath off.
Jack Posobic
Took the traditional Sabbath off. As the Lord commands rest and. And Charlie never stopped running. Mike Cernovich was on the show the other day. He said Charlie was a young man in a hurry. He was a young man in a hurry and he did more in his 31 years years than. Than other people do in 100. He lived 10 lifetimes in less time than one.
Steve Bannon
His pastor is a to. For we segue to the more of the commemoration of life from the political figures. His. His pastor, what he would call his pastor is going to have the last, I think speaking role. If you had an altar call. If you had an altar call here today, the president United States would Speak three hours later. I mean, it would take up the entire.
Jack Posobic
Oh, yeah. I mean, you couldn't, you couldn't. You couldn't do it if you were.
Steve Bannon
What I would like to do. What I would like to do is offer it up for the media. Take the media on the riser and.
Jack Posobic
The media, print media, and offer.
Steve Bannon
Offer them an altar call. Right.
Caroline Wren
Maybe.
Jack Posobic
Maybe we'll save some media souls today. I know we're going to be saving a lot of souls today. Maybe the media will, you know, catch a little. Yeah, catch a little flavor of that.
David Brody
Pastor Rob McCoy, I spoke to him this week, and he teared up when he talked about the fact that Charlie not only wanted to be his pastor, but it wasn't that. It was that Charlie said, you're America's pastor. And Rob McCoy didn't understand. What do you mean? America's pastor. And here he is today in front of not just America, but the world for 11 minutes to give the gospel presentation. And just the way God is working. Talk about this being a God moment and a spiritual two by four. I mean, this is. How do you not see what's going on?
Jack Posobic
Well, and people don't always know the ins and outs of it, but. So Rob's son, Michael McCoy, was Charlie's chief of staff. He accompanied Charlie there with him that day. He was there with him in the ambulance. He was there with him at the hospital for every single moment of it. Never left his side. Air Force Force 2 with JD Vance, the Vice president, and all the rest of it. So the McFoy family. Yes, and the Kirk family are very, very, very close. And to have gone through that together changes you, but it infuses God at the center of everything. And everything Charlie Kirk did on this earth and beyond has God at the very center of that. And I, you know, and my son's sister, 7 and 4, you know, I've been trying to explain, try to make some sense of this to them, and they, they want to ask about, you know, the details. And I haven't shown the video, but I said, look, Charlie didn't feel any pain.
David Brody
Right.
Jack Posobic
He closed his eyes and the next moment he opened them. He was in the presence of the king.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
Yeah.
David Brody
Amen.
Steve Bannon
And I.
Jack Posobic
And I saw my son smile.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
Oh, that's so sweet.
Jack Posobic
Yeah, just a little. Just little smile on his face.
Steve Bannon
Before we go back to the mainstay, who the. The group is playing now, can you explain to our audience who they are?
Mary Kathryn Hamm
Yes, this is Carrie Cody, Brandon Lake, Phil Wickham. They are all Kind of mixing this up together. They're not a group that's all together. Normally these are three separate groups, but they're kind of doing a concert for us.
Steve Bannon
Fabulous.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
Yeah.
David Brody
And Phil Wickham is like a big time evangelical artist. I mean he's won a lot of. I believe it's also Grammy awards.
Steve Bannon
Yeah. We Grammy for Christian.
David Brody
Yeah.
Steve Bannon
Let's go ahead and go to the back to the main stage for a moment. Catch up the music.
Dr. Gina Louden
Faithful through generations oh so why would he feel feel now he won't Hallelujah. He won't I've still got joy in chaos I've got peace that makes no sense so I won't be going under not held by my own strength Cause I built my life on Jesus.
Steve Bannon
And.
Dr. Gina Louden
He'S never let me down he's faithful in every season or so why would he fail now? He won't he won't never fail he won't fail he won't fail he won't no no no no no no he won't Never has never will he won't fail he won't fail Christ is my firm foundation the rock on which I stand when everything around me is taken I'm gonna never been more glad I.
Choir/Singers
Put my faith in Jesus.
Dr. Gina Louden
Jes let me down he's faithful through generations oh so why would he f Now he wants he won't we celebrate your faithfulness he won't fail he won't fail no won't Christ the solid rock it all of the ground is sinking s All of the ground is sinking Rain came and went blue My house was built on you and I'm safe with you I'm gonna make it through O rain came and went through but my house was built on you and I'm safe with you I'm gonna make it through Hoorain. Came and went the house built on Jesus is still standing you I'm gonna make it we gonna make it I'm gonna make it through Cause I'm standing strong all you oh I'm going to.
Choir/Singers
Make it through.
Dr. Gina Louden
Cuz my house is buil on you Christ is my firm foundation the rock on which I stand when everything around me is shaken.
Choir/Singers
I've.
Dr. Gina Louden
Never been and more blind that I.
Choir/Singers
Put my faith in Jesus.
Dr. Gina Louden
Let me down he's faithful through generations oh so why would he fail now? He was.
Choir/Singers
He.
Dr. Gina Louden
Won'T fail he won't fail Hallelujah.
Choir/Singers
Hallelujah.
Dr. Gina Louden
Never fail never failing because he lives I confess tomorrow because he lives oh all fear is gone Because I Know he holds the future and life is worth the living Just because He lives all our hope is in Jesus Come on, let's sing it together. Because he lives I confess to my. Because.
Steve Bannon
He lives.
Dr. Gina Louden
All fear is gone Because I know he holds the future and life is worth the living Just because He lives.
Choir/Singers
Amen.
Steve Bannon
Amen. Celebrate of Life continues here at Cardinal Stadium. We're going to check the stadium in a minute. This football stadium. Sorry, fill up. Why was that last song so powerful?
Mary Kathryn Hamm
Song is very important to a lot of people, Steve. Because that was the Billy Graham crusade song that he always played at every single crusade. So it's very meaningful to Christians, especially evangelical Christians. And that was sung by Cody Carnes, who's with us today. The other singers we've seen, Carrie and Cody, are together. They're a married couple. Brandon Lake. He was sick as a young child, Steve. And it was while he was sick that he played the. Started learning the guitar. He was five years old. Had to miss a bunch of school. Started playing the guitar. And that caught on. And that's. And that's how. And then there's Phil Wickham also, who completely lost his voice for a period of months or years. And you heard him sing down there, you said.
Steve Bannon
Everybody's been through a struggle, though, on the stage today. Let's go to our own Ben Berkwam. Ben is down on the floor. Ben has some, I think, special guests for us. Ben Berkwam.
Ben Berkwam
Man, I gotta tell you guys, the spirit of the Lord is powerful on this floor. You can feel it. It's the Lord God Almighty. I'm not a singer, but man, who was and is and is to come, that is the message with all creation. I sing. It's just incredible, guys. What? You know, Jack said it. Charlie wanted to do a stadium. And now we're in the stadium and it's filling up and it's all to the glory of the Lord. It is truly incredible. I mean, you think about what today is. It's a morning day, but it's also a celebration. Before I get to Art Del Cueto, I just want. Brandon, bring the camera over here and show these kids. I want to show these kids. This is Charlie's legacy. This is legacy right here. You've got kids from across America who have been taught right to love God, love their families, love this country. This is Charlie's legacy. What's your name?
Caroline Wren
Craig.
Dr. Gina Louden
Craig.
Caroline Wren
Craig, where are you from?
Dr. Gina Louden
I'm from Arizona.
Ben Berkwam
Arizona. Are you all family? You siblings?
Dr. Gina Louden
What's your name?
Mary Kathryn Hamm
Brinley.
Dr. Gina Louden
How old are you?
Steve Bannon
Eleven.
Dr. Gina Louden
Eleven.
David Brody
What's your name?
Dr. Gina Louden
How old are you?
Caroline Wren
Cameron.
Ben Berkwam
Cameron, how old are you?
Choir/Singers
12.
Dr. Gina Louden
12.
Steve Bannon
Cecily?
Mary Kathryn Hamm
I'm 15.
Dr. Gina Louden
15.
Choir/Singers
Kennedy? 9.
Ben Berkwam
And you're all siblings?
Steve Bannon
Cousins.
Dr. Gina Louden
Cousins. What's Your name? Ray. 14.
Choir/Singers
I'm Audrey and I'm 10.
Ben Berkwam
I'm not gonna go. Everyone but whoever feels called to say it. What did Charlie Kirk mean to you? What does this say mean to you?
Caroline Wren
I mean, he was like a symbol that we can show our Christianity and defend it rather than just conform to what's going on with life and be who we are.
David Brody
Are you a sister, too?
Choir/Singers
Yeah.
Dr. Gina Louden
How old are you?
Steve Bannon
I'm 23.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
I'm the oldest sister.
Dr. Gina Louden
You too?
Ben Berkwam
Look at this family. One family out here. How important is Jesus to your family?
Mary Kathryn Hamm
He's like a lot of our life.
Choir/Singers
Because he, like, created us and he's a.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
He's really important.
Ben Berkwam
Are you afraid to tell people what you believe? Are you bold to tell people what you believe?
Caroline Wren
Yes. Because of Charlie Cook.
Dr. Gina Louden
What. What about you?
Ben Berkwam
What does Charlie mean to you?
Caroline Wren
He means amazing. He's like the guy to speak all of us and show us.
Ben Berkwam
I love your guys. And then these guys over here, we got Art Del Cueto, Border patrol.
Steve Bannon
It's just amazing, right?
Steve Gruber
It's amazing to be here and you feel it. Like I've been sitting here and saying. I mean, I've been standing here with you worshiping. It's just an amazing thing. It's sad, though. The reason that this came about is we lost a fantastic individual, someone that, you know, I was lucky enough to call my friend. So it's difficult, but this is. This is his legacy.
David Brody
This is what he did.
Steve Gruber
And look, not to joke about it, but this is. This is the most people I've ever seen in the Cardinals stadium, and it's just amazing to see. We still a couple more hours left. Ben, thank you for being out here.
Steve Bannon
Like, you've done a lot of things and you're blessed.
Steve Gruber
People don't know this. You were out here early. You prayed with my family. That means the world to me. And it just shows the amazing individual that you are, the amazing people that are here today. And I'm really, really lucky to have you as my friend. Thank you so much for all you do, Ben.
Steve Bannon
You know what?
Ben Berkwam
I love you, brother.
Steve Bannon
This is what it is. Back to you, Ben Burkhoff. Let's go back to the main stage.
Choir/Singers
Yeah. Adore. We adore you, Lord. We adore you we magnify you, Jesus, Let your glory Come today, God, fill this place with your presence. Fill, fill this place with your glory. Oh, you're the one that we worship. You're the one that we worship. You're the one that we worship. Oh, you're the only one worthy. Fine I of our wor. You're the only one worthy. You are. You are. You are.
Steve Bannon
Amazing. I tell you what, let's go back to the main stage. Let's take that we're producing as we're going. Let's go back to the main stage. Hear this.
Choir/Singers
Christ my king. What a beautiful name it is nothing can stand against. What a beautiful name it is the name of Jesus. What a beautiful name it is. What a beautiful name it is the name of. Of Jesus Christ my king. What a beautiful name it is nothing can stand against. What a beautiful name it is the name of Jesus. Your name. Your name. Your name. Your name. Jesus. Oh, the name above all names. The name above all names. Death could not hold you. The veil tore before you. You silence the most of sin and rain. The heavens are roaring the praise of your glory. For you are. You have no rival, you have no equal. Now forever God you reign. Yours is the kingdom and yours is the glory. Yours is the name of the all names. Death could not hold you before you silence.
Dr. Gina Louden
The.
Choir/Singers
Heavens are roaring the praise of your glory for you honor. You have no rival, you have no equal. That is whatever God you. Yours is the kingdom, yours is the glory. Yours is the name of God forever. What a powerful name it is. What a powerful name it is the name of Jesus Christ against every name. What a powerful name it is the name of Jesus. What a powerful name is the name of Jesus. What a powerful name it is the name of Jesus. Sa.
Dr. Gina Louden
I just wanna speak the name of Jesus. Over every heart and every mind. Cause I know there is peace within your presence. I speak Jesus. Who's with me today?
Caroline Wren
Come on.
Dr. Gina Louden
I just want to speak the name of Jesus. Yeah. Till every dark addiction starts to break. Declaring there is hope and there is freedom. I, I speak Jesus. The only name that saves. Sing it cuz. Your name is power. Your name is he. Your name is light. Break every stronghold. Shine through the shadows, burn like a fire.
Choir/Singers
I just wanna speak the name of Jesus. Hope that fear and all anxiety. To every soul held captive by depression. I speak Jesus.
Dr. Gina Louden
Your name is power.
Choir/Singers
Your name is healing. Your name is light. Yes, it is to break every stronghold. Shine through this shadow. Your name, your name.
Dr. Gina Louden
Your name is.
Choir/Singers
Yes, it is Jesus. Your name is right. Your name is.
Dr. Gina Louden
Break every Stronghold.
Choir/Singers
Shine through the shadow.
Dr. Gina Louden
Shout. Jesus from the mountains. Jesus in the streets. Jesus in the darkness over every enemy. Come on. Jesus. For my family. I speak the holy, holy name.
Choir/Singers
Jesus.
Dr. Gina Louden
Shout.
Choir/Singers
Jesus in the darkness over every enemy. Jesus.
Dr. Gina Louden
For my family. I speak the holy, holy name of Jesus.
Choir/Singers
Shout Jesus.
Caroline Wren
Shout.
Choir/Singers
Jesus from the mountains. Jesus.
Dr. Gina Louden
I speak the whole holy name.
Choir/Singers
Jesus. Your name is power.
Dr. Gina Louden
Your name is power.
Choir/Singers
Yes, it is. Your name is rightful. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. So break every stronghold. Shine through the shadow. Declare it today. Your name, your name.
Dr. Gina Louden
Your name is power.
Choir/Singers
Your name is healing. Your name is light. Yes.
Dr. Gina Louden
So break every stronghold.
Choir/Singers
Shine through this shadow. Holy name of Jesus. Thank you, Jesus.
Dr. Gina Louden
You believe in the power of the name of Jesus.
Caroline Wren
Would you lift up a shout of.
Dr. Gina Louden
Praise in this stadium today? Come on. Would you praise the name of Jesus today? It is beautiful to be here together. There is power when the people of faith come together to lift up the name of Jesus. Amen. We're so honored to be here and lift up the name of Jesus in this moment. We're so thankful that when we speak his name, we have salvation and healing and freedom. There is hope and victory in Jesus because of the cross that he bore and the blood that he shed to pay for for our sins, the grave that he rose from. So we don't even have to fear death. Thank you, Jesus, for winning the battle with us. So because of what he did, in any situation, we can trust Him. Amen. Can we just take a second and can we acknowledge that the presence of God is in this place? I don't know if you call this.
Steve Bannon
Man Jesus a friend, but he is.
Dr. Gina Louden
A friend and he is a fan of you. We have this amazing Savior who not only came to give his life to save us, but he shows up every.
Steve Bannon
Time we call on his name. And that's good news, because the presence.
Dr. Gina Louden
Of God is in this place. And so if you are lacking today, if you need hope, if you need joy, if you need life, He's a God of resurrection power. How many of you believe that? So as we lift up the name of Jesus, declaring that we trust in this God, I'm believing that many of us, our eyes are going to be turned to this amazing Savior. And maybe today's your day. You need to start a relationship with Jesus. Today can be that day.
Steve Bannon
I can't think of a better place to draw a line in the sand.
Dr. Gina Louden
And say, you know what? I'm gonna place my faith and my hope and my trust in this God. And I can recognize that God is.
David Brody
Doing something in our globe, around the.
Dr. Gina Louden
Globe, in our nation, and I want.
Steve Bannon
To be a part of it. Because the spirit of God is on.
Dr. Gina Louden
The move who wants to be a part of what God is doing.
Jack Posobic
Amen.
Steve Bannon
Well, then it starts with saying yes to Jesus yourself.
Dr. Gina Louden
And today, you can do it. I believe that Jesus died for my sins.
Steve Bannon
And I believe that God raised him from the dead.
Dr. Gina Louden
And in Romans it says, if you believe that and you confess that, you will be saved. Amen. Come on, let's sing about our trust. Blessed assurance Jesus is my. He's been my fourth man in the fire Time after time Born of his spirit yeah Washed in his blood in what he did for me on Calvary is more than enough. Let's declare.
Steve Bannon
Come on.
Dr. Gina Louden
So I trust in God, my Savior the one who will never he will never fail so I trust in God, my Savior who will never fail.
Steve Bannon
He.
Dr. Gina Louden
Will never fail Perfect submission all in rest I know the author of tomorrow so come on. So this is my soul this is my soul I'm praising my risen king and Savior all the day long we trust in. I trust in God, my Savior the one who will never fail. She will never fail oh, and that's why I trust in God, my Savior the one who will never fail. Not he will never fail. This is my testimony. I saw the Lord. I saw the Lord and he heard and he answered. I saw the Lord and he heard and he answered. I saw the Lord and he heard and he answered. That's why I trust him.
Steve Bannon
We are live at the. We're live at the Cardinal Stadium. It's filled up with almost, I guess, 70,000 people. Even the obstructive. You see, David, the president is en route.
David Brody
He is left about an hour ago or so, and we understand when he comes, he will have, obviously, a limited time, which is not. Not surprising any of us. You know, as I listen to the worship behind us, I'm thinking of Erica Kirk, who said on that Friday night speech that she gave, she said, quote, God is good, and there's a lot of folks that don't know Jesus, who will go, wait, what? God is good. That's the point, right? God is good. Because you know what? In a crazy world where my truth and your truth and this truth, there is the truth. And that's what Jesus stood for and why he died. And then, oh, wait for it, rose again.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
I think it's important to note, Steve, that every single person here got in their seats a sign that said Charlie Kirk, a bracelet that said, work hard. Be Better. It's the same bracelet that Charlie floor his whole life. Also a pin and some tissues. We could use some tissues up here, though. Steve. Brad forgot us.
David Brody
Yeah.
Steve Bannon
Let's introduce Bishop Aubrey Shines. Bishop, give us your perspective of this, sir.
David Brody
Well, it's powerful because, again, as you.
Steve Bannon
Guys know, I had an opportunity to be Charlie's advisor. And in traveling, sitting down with this.
David Brody
Guy, I'm looking when I hear this type of.
Steve Bannon
Of music that's going on.
David Brody
And really what Charlie really, really embodied, it's. It's indicative of even stepping. When you go back and study, even in the book of Acts, you'll find this young man, just like Charlie, he was out just doing what God called him to do, and they thought. They took his life because they stoned him. Wonderful thing happened. He came into body so powerful that the church grew exponentially to the point that it never stopped growing because of.
Steve Bannon
The blood that that young man shed, named Stephen.
David Brody
That, my friend, is Charlie Kerr.
Steve Bannon
Amazing.
Jack Posobic
My.
Steve Bannon
My patron saint. Say, Steven, let's go. Do we have Ben Berkbaum? Maybe too loud on the floor. Let's go back to. I'll tell you. Let's go back to the stage and the music. We'll get Ben and next h.
Dr. Gina Louden
Every time I. Come on, let's sing it one more time. I trust in God, my savior who will never.
Choir/Singers
Fail.
Dr. Gina Louden
He will never fail so I trust in God, my savior Only one. You will never fail that's why I trust in God. Thank you, Jesus.
Steve Bannon
The sound is deafening.
David Brody
Yeah, that's the word.
Steve Bannon
That's where we're.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
In a good way.
Steve Bannon
Yeah, good way. We're using. We're using the NFL headsets today instead of our usual. Bishop shines. And let's keep. Let's keep the camera down on the thing. Bishop shines. This is all part of Charlie's Explain people. Charlie's faith initiative. You know, one of the things that.
David Brody
I think all of us should consider that even during this time right now, one of the things that we're finding.
Steve Bannon
That'S disheartening in one regard, there's a group of individuals that are out there.
David Brody
That are really trying to take away.
Steve Bannon
What Charlie was really all about.
David Brody
There are those that are trying to.
Steve Bannon
Make it some sort of racial dynamic, others that are trying to move them.
David Brody
Away from faith as if, though it was only a political ride, it wasn't. Charlie's idea was Christ centered and then Christ's reflection in all of us. And that is what Charlie really embodied. And anybody that misses that, for some Personal reason. They're really missing the real spirit in the heartbeat of who Charlie really, really was. It's a good point.
Steve Bannon
Point. Amazing. Let's go back to the. Can we go back to the main stage and to the music?
David Brody
This is a big song.
Steve Bannon
People witnessing to this song.
Dr. Gina Louden
And if you are for me who can be against me for Jesus there's nothing impossible for you. Come on.
Choir/Singers
When all I see are the ashes.
Dr. Gina Louden
The you see the ey. Thank you, God. When all I see is the cross God you see the ex so when I fly I'll fight on my knees with my entity high oh God, the battle belongs to you Every fear I lay at your feet I sing through the night oh God, the battle belongs to you Almighty for you go before us Nothing can stand against the power of our God Cause you shine in the shadow you win every battle Nothing, nothing can stand against the power of our God an almighty for you go before us Nothing can stand against the power of our God you shine in the shadow you win every battle Nothing, nothing can stand against the power of our God an almighty fortress you go before us nothing is the power of I You shine in the shadow you win every battle Nothing can stand against the power of our God So when I fight I'll follow my knees with my hands lifted high before God the battle belongs talk to you Every fear I lay at your feet I sing through the night oh God, the battle belongs to you.
Choir/Singers
Amen. Amen.
Dr. Gina Louden
Amen. Jesus is already one. Jesus is already one.
Steve Bannon
Okay, welcome back to the commemoration celebration of life of Charlie Kirk. Bishop shines any closing opportunity observations, particularly in the faith aspect, which is such a fundamental part of Charlie's work.
David Brody
Yeah, absolutely. I just want everyone to really be encouraged. I know a lot of people probably feel. Steve, how can we be encouraged at.
Steve Bannon
A time like this?
David Brody
Remember what Charlie believed and it's simple what the devil meant for evil. God said, I'm going to turn it.
Steve Bannon
Around for your good.
David Brody
And this is why we're seeing an explosion of across the nation and not.
Steve Bannon
Just here in America.
David Brody
Everywhere where people are igniting simply because Charlie gave his life for something that was much bigger than Charlie Kirk.
Steve Bannon
Well, Bishop, what's your social media? How can people follow you? Everyone.
David Brody
Aubrey's America. Just go out and check us out at Aubrey's America.
Steve Bannon
We're everywhere. Bishop Aubrey, Sean's known you for over a decade. Good man. Bishop, you've helped charge Charlie with that faith initiative. Huge. Thank you so much. Let's go to Ben Berkwam on the floor. Jack Basoba. We're going to wrangle Jack Basoba here in a minute. Let's go back to the floor and Ben Berkwom.
Ben Berkwam
Hey, Steve, I just want to show you these guys over here. So first off, you know this guy, Mr. Bo Loud. And I'm going to end over here, but I want to just go across the room here. Look at these young men over here. First, tell me where you're from, why are you here? And what Charlie meant to.
Steve Bannon
My name is Riley Haymond. I'm from Reno, Nevada.
Caroline Wren
I'm here to celebrate the life of Charlie. He was like a mentor to me almost.
Steve Bannon
He was someone I looked up to.
Caroline Wren
For like the last five years of my life. I'd say as a godly young man.
Steve Bannon
As an amazing example, someone who was.
Caroline Wren
Just out there sharing the gospel with the unreached.
Steve Bannon
But he was also.
Caroline Wren
He was helping people to, like, think for themselves.
Steve Bannon
And I just think that's.
Caroline Wren
He did more in his 31 years that he was given on this earth than most people will ever do with 100 years. So that's what Charlie means to me.
Steve Bannon
He was one of my.
David Brody
He was someone I looked up to.
Caroline Wren
Hi, I'm Ben Bailey. I'm from Colfax, Wisconsin. And so I'm also here for. To celebrate Charlie's life and his impact that he's had on America. And what he's meant to me is. Is everything. I would definitely say I attribute part of who I am to who he was. I always enjoyed watching his debates and I love just studying the way he would cut through arguments and find the truth. And so I. It was very tragic to hear of his passing, but it is very inspiring to see how the Lord has used this. My name is Jude Carlson. I'm from Fort Worth, Texas. And what Charlie means to me, if it weren't for Charlie, I would probably be getting indoctrinated right now because instead of going to college, I'm at this thing called the Turning Point prep year program. So instead of getting your kids indoctrinated in a woke college, send them to Turning Point prep year where they can be taught how to read the Bible properly, get understanding on Greek thought, and do what Charlie does. So sign up for Turning Point prep year next year and don't let your kids get indoctrinated.
Ben Berkwam
And you're saying this is the first year, right, that this has started and you guys are the first class?
Caroline Wren
Yeah, we get to be the first class. I'm Cashman Flores. I'm from Puyallup, Washington, and I'm here with these gentlemen as a first class of Turning Point Prep year. In my opinion, the best college in this nation right now. I don't think any other college will prepare us as a future generation to be leaders politically, but better biblically in our families and in this nation. I'm Adam Shalek.
Steve Bannon
I'm from Gilbert, Arizona.
Ben Berkwam
I'm so glad to be home. But yeah, so we're all part of Prep U. I've gotten to know these guys so well. But what Charlie meant to me was that he was truth. He spoke truth. He was strong about his faith, and in any threat, he always spoke the truth. And he was strong because he had Christ in him. And yes, it's a time to mourn his loss, but it's also that time to pick back up that microphone. And we all going to be Charlie for everyone else. We got to carry on that legacy for him.
Dr. Gina Louden
Hi, I'm Colin. I'm from Anthem, Arizona.
David Brody
I go to Boulder Creek High School.
Jack Posobic
I'm here because we're in dark times.
Dr. Gina Louden
Right now, but you can look around.
David Brody
And there's so many people here and.
Caroline Wren
They'Re all rallying together.
David Brody
It's super cool. Charlie for me, was kind of like.
Jack Posobic
Obi Wan Kenobi in Star wars, you know, Darth Vader.
Dr. Gina Louden
Miz struck him down, but his message.
Jack Posobic
Is even more powerful. He's immortal now. He's ingrained in everything, and we're here for him. And I just hope that people can realize the message and that we're going.
Steve Bannon
To get through dark times together.
Ben Berkwam
Last but not least, Bo Louden.
Dr. Gina Louden
Bo?
Caroline Wren
Yeah, I mean, hang.
Dr. Gina Louden
Hang on.
Ben Berkwam
Hold that thought real quick. We're going to go back to the stage, and we'll be back with Bo Loud in a second.
Choir/Singers
Now declare is your strength. Our resurrected king has rendered you defeated forever. He is lifted high forever. The ground began to sh. The stone was rolled away. His perfect love could not be now. Then where is your sin? Forever. He is alive. He is alive. You are Jesus. Jesus. You are the lamb that was made. You are the lamb. You're risen. You're risen. You're the resurrected king. The only resurrected king. You love Jesus. The only one. The only one. Jesus, Will you sing this with me? We sing hallelujah. We sing hallelujah. We sing hallelujah.
Dr. Gina Louden
Hallelujah.
Choir/Singers
The lamb is overcome and we sing hallelujah. We sing hallelujah. We sing hallelujah. The lamb is overcome. We sing hallelujah. We sing hallelujah to you, Jesus. Hallelujah to Jesus. And we sing hallelujah. We sing hallelujah. Hallelujah. We sing hallelujah. We sing hallelujah. Ra, you're our resurrected one. Jesus, you're our king. You're our king. You're our King. Lamb of God, anointed one who was in this and is to come seated on the throne of Holy Holy. You prove to us the fathers of Jesus Christ be lifted up. Holy Holy Lamb of God, anointed one who was a seated on the throne above Holy holy righteous one who shed his blood. You proved to us the Father's love. Jesus Christ believed lifted up Holy, holy Lamb of God, anointed one who was and is and is you come seated on the throne above Holy Holy Righteous one. You shed his blood. You prove to us the Father's love Jesus Christ be lifted up Holy Holy Lamb of God, anointed one who was a mystic heart seated on the throne. He proved to us is the promise of Jesus Christ be lifted. Who else is worthy? Who else is worthy? There is no one, only Jesus. Who else is worthy? Who asks Worthy, Worthy? There is no one, only Jes. Who else is worthy? Who else is worthy? There is no one, only Jesus. Who else is white? Only Jesus. There is no one, only.
Steve Bannon
Jesus. Jack Pos thoughts.
Jack Posobic
Steve the rafters are packed.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
Yeah.
Jack Posobic
This stadium is filled. Charlie always said he wanted to do a stadium.
Steve Bannon
And he.
Jack Posobic
He did it. He made it. He brought them all here. And this is what people need to understand about Charlie. It wasn't about him. All the views and the shares and the speeches and debates. It wasn't about him. It was about the message and the fact that everything that Charlie ever did had God at its center. Everything. And if we are going to find a center again, Western civilization. That's what it is. That's what it was at the beginning. That's what it always will be. We need to come back to our center.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
Jack. The rafters are filled. Not just on the outside, but even back behind the stage where no one can possibly even see what is going on. They're literally looking down on a tent top. They can't see anything.
Jack Posobic
It's America.
Steve Bannon
Clapton.
Jack Posobic
Tickets like that, once.
Steve Bannon
They filled these.
Jack Posobic
Another could only afford that at Madison Square garden.
Steve Bannon
Jack, it's 1:00 Eastern Time. We want to thank our audience for joining us. This is a commemoration of the life celebration life of Charlie Kirk. For the people that watch Real America's voice that come in and maybe don't understand this part of Charlie's work. Explain what's going on the first three.
Jack Posobic
Hours of the Christian worship, the gospel that we're going to hear very soon. This is where it started for many of us. We didn't start out as conservative pundit, you know, politics, any of that. It was with Charlie for sure. It started with God. It started with Christ. And he talked about giving his soul to God, I believe when he was in middle school. And he said it was the best decision he ever made. And it flowed from there and that letting. Taking yourself out of being the center of your life, killing your ego, in a sense, and putting God in God's direction and God's plan and being open and receptive to God's plan for you. And that's what Charlie always said, because people would ask me, how's he going out there? The security, this, the building, building, the drones. And he said, it's God's plan for me.
David Brody
And, you know, when I went over to TP USA headquarters last night, saw the vigil, and of course it goes for blocks and blocks. There were pastors and others at tpusa literally talking about God and singing Amazing Grace. I mean, that's what this was about, really. And I'm just wondering, you know, you knew Charlie so well. The fact that Jesus is getting top billing here, here rather than him. I'm sure that would make him very, very, very proud.
Jack Posobic
He is very, very thrilled to see that because that's what it was all about. And Erica brought it up. She said, Charlie always said, the goal. What's the goal? He said, the goal is to make heaven crab it.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
Yeah.
Jack Posobic
Goal is to make heaven crap. And we're going to save so many souls today.
Steve Bannon
Yeah.
Jack Posobic
Perhaps even some of the media on the ride.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
Yeah.
Steve Bannon
We got ultra car, the vitriol and the hate on Charlie is because of this part, not the politics.
Jack Posobic
Of course.
David Brody
Yes, of course.
Jack Posobic
Charlie did not before Charlie. And people point this out, that before he married Erica, that he was Christian, but personally Christian, not publicly Christian. And when he met Erica, she said, no, no, no, no, no. You got to put that first. And he said, do you think people are, you know, they want. Are they going to be recessed? But she said, I don't care. You got to put that first. And he did. He went all the way in. And that was. And she said it, too. It's been Erica's influence to say, no, put it first, because he comes first.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
Jack, I want to ask you, because a lot of people are asking me, how's Erica doing? And I say, she's made of really solid stuff. That's what we know about Erica, about Charlie's Erica. I know she's setting and I know she's very distracted with all, of course, all of the things happening with Turning Point. So exciting. But also with her beautiful children that belong to her and Charlie. But whatever you can tell us about her, speak to that, please.
Jack Posobic
Look, Erica, she's being a rock for her family. She's being a rock for the organization as well. She's got a strength that comes not of this girl.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
Yeah.
Jack Posobic
And we were with her when she did the speech and we were with her after as well. And grief is a roller coaster. It's true. You know, you lose, you lose a buddy in the military, it comes and it goes, men and women, it's different. But I have no idea where it comes from. I mean, I think I know.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
Yeah, you do.
Jack Posobic
But I know Charlie's with her and I know Charlie's holding her hands and embracing, racing her in this time. And he's sending the Holy Spirit down to be with her as well, because she's got agree. I mean, think about it. She's got to grieve personally. She's got to be there for the children. And she didn't have to accept. She still accepted to step up and be the leader of Turning Point, the appointed leader. And there could be no other appointed leader. Mrs. Erica Kirk.
Steve Bannon
She proved that.
Jack Posobic
And that's who Charlie chose when he.
Steve Bannon
Picked her national address. 15 minutes live. She's.
David Brody
She's a rock.
Steve Bannon
I know you got to go. You're going to speak. Give us some closing thoughts. We'll see you later after the. The commemoration of life, hopefully Jack and they wrap up a postgame show.
Jack Posobic
Look, it's just I didn't even have this prepared and when I got here and I just. The thought I can't get out of my mind is that this is. This was Charlie's dream to pack a stadium full of people and to save souls for Jesus. It was his dream. And through this unspeakable evil, which was done intentionally as an act of the enemy.
Steve Bannon
Absolutely.
Jack Posobic
Which needs to be addressed. But he's achieved it through that and that.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
Amen.
Jack Posobic
That means something.
Steve Bannon
Jack, how do we follow you today? You're going to be behind the stage and then you'll speak and then you'll come back to us.
Jack Posobic
Yeah, I got to get go through security to get out there. President obviously will be coming in, so Secret Service has got it all. The bubble is being, being prepared for the president, Vice President, everyone else. And so we'll be there at Jack Posobic. The speech will be up and, you know, when it goes. And then I'll. I'll be up and hopefully be up here after.
David Brody
Thanks, Jack.
Steve Bannon
We'll get you back up. Jack. Thank you. Thank you. Everything you've been doing, it's been fantastic.
Jack Posobic
By the way, Steve, people don't know this, but you've been there so much for all of us through all this streaming.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
And speaking of a rock.
Caroline Wren
Yeah.
Jack Posobic
Standing true and fighting this fight. And yet you know that you meant the world to Charlie, and I hope you know that, Steve.
Steve Bannon
Thank you, sir. Appreciate it.
David Brody
Hey, I just wanted to let you know there's some news coming out that just.
Steve Bannon
Jack, thank you. We'll see you later. We'll see you later. Looking forward to your marks.
David Brody
We talked about the rafters and how it's packed in here. Getting reports from outside that this. The traffic is going on for miles. People are miles. So. So we know there's an overflow.
Steve Bannon
300,000.
David Brody
I think that's what I was to say, because you go, what, 70,000 in here? Roughly 60,000 in the overflow. So that's more. Way more than that.
Steve Bannon
Let's go back to the stage. The President of the United States is in route. Jack Vob is going back what we call the bubble. Things are progressing. It's magnificent right now. You couldn't be better. Let's go to the stage.
Dr. Gina Louden
Oh, how love you Love so love the world that you gave your only son Whoever believes will not perish but have eternal life. Thank you for your love thank you for your love thank you for your love thank you for your love Run to father, Father Fall into grace Song with the high no reason to wait My heart needs a search My soul needs a friend so I run to the fire Again and again and again and again oh, again and again and again.
Steve Bannon
Music. Magnificent. The crowd is magnificent. I mean, here we just showed you, I think, the obstructed view. There's 15, 10,000 people now. You're going to see the other stadium is already packed here. They're in a park across the street. David Birdie just told us that there's miles of traffic. I mean, we got rolling it, I don't know, four o', clock, and we still, because of security, couldn't get here the first hour.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
Lots of us walked.
Steve Bannon
We had Terrence Bates. You got to walk it in, right?
Caroline Wren
Yes.
Steve Bannon
Terrence Bates and the team that we had, you know, covered it because it's just even starting at 3 or 4 in the morning. This the heavy security. Let's go. We got, I think somebody you might know. Let's go. We have Ben Burke. Can I go to Ben Berkhwarm? Can I go to Ben?
Dr. Gina Louden
Yeah.
Ben Berkwam
Hey, Steve, I got, I got you right here.
Steve Bannon
Okay, Go ahead, brother.
Ben Berkwam
Hey, so I've got the one and only Bo Louden and Maureen Bannon. Bo, I want to start with you. We were just talking to those young guys.
Dr. Gina Louden
Why.
Ben Berkwam
What is, what is Charlie's legacy for you and the young man male generation?
Caroline Wren
I mean, it's absolutely everything. And, and I. It really says something about someone when they have such a legacy, such an impact on our generation, my generation specifically, that even someone like me with parents as great as mine or someone like Baron with parents as great as his, that we can be inspired by someone like that. I mean, he truly inspired. He's, he's. Aside from my parents, one of the main reasons I got into politics, you know, sitting back little, little me watching Charlie Kirk debate videos, I mean, he was everything. He taught me me a lot of what I knew. He accepted my entire family at a turning point. We got four ambassadors in the company and he's just been a life. My parents have known him for a very long time, since he was like 15. And he's made a huge impact in this generation. And now you can tell more than ever when you're able to fill a stadium and everybody's worshiping the Lord. I mean, that's number one. That's exactly what you would want at a time like this. But he had more of an impact than any, any man I've ever seen in the, in the political space next to Trump himself. I mean, I mean, he was number two in terms of influence and this is exactly what he wanted. And I love the fact that people aren't going to let his death meet be his assassination be neglected in any way, shape or form. It's making more of an impact than it ever has and it made a big impact. So it says a lot.
Ben Berkwam
What about, you know, all the events we've done with Steve and with you and with War Room, the posse turning to point everything we saw, the assassination attempt of President Trump, they stole the election, took our country away, and then this happens. What talk to me about Charlie's legacy and your impact in your life, but also where we go from here.
Caroline Wren
So this is a. We're at war. Like my dad says, we're at war. And this is a spiritual war in this country. This is good versus evil. An evil assassinated Charlie on September 10th. A deranged leftist lunatic executed him in cold blood. And the left wants us silenced. They want us to be scared that this is going to happen to all of us if we continue to speak out like Charlie. And we can't let that happen. We cannot let Charlie's legacy die. We have to pick up the mic and continue what Charlie started. And as you see around here, I mean, it is packed. Charlie made such an impact on so many people's lives that I hope he sees this from heaven like I hope he does. Because, you know, so many people want to pick up that mic for him and continue his mission and continue fighting to save this country. And also, he wanted to make heaven crowded. And, my friend, you're making heaven crowded.
Ben Berkwam
This may be the largest Christian viewed event possibly in the history of the world. I mean, think of what Billy Graham did and some of those events. But with the media, Steve, There is more media here than I've ever seen, and we've covered a lot. There's more media here than I've ever seen at anything at any presidential event, at the rnc, at the dnc, at anything I've ever covered. So you think about that. You know, we were talking about what the enemy means for evil.
David Brody
It's just incredible.
Ben Berkwam
Incredible. God bless you guys. Bo, where do people follow you?
Caroline Wren
Yeah, Instagram @bo loud. And on social medias. All social medias at Twitter. And get her Maureen Underscore Bannon. And also on Instagram at Real Maureen Bannon.
Ben Berkwam
All right, guys, we're gonna head back to the stage. The worship continues out here. We're celebrating Charlie Kirk's life. We're celebrating America and the seeds that are spreading around the world.
Choir/Singers
The father's arms are open wide. Forgiveness was bought away. The precious blood of Jesus Christ will come to the altar. The father's arms are. Forgiveness was bought away. The precious blood of Jesus Christ. Thank you, Jesus. Your arms are open wide today. Your arms are open wide today. Your arms are open wide today. Oh, I see the prodigal coming home today. Cause your arms are open wide for us. Oh, I see the sinner wash clean today. Cause your arms are open wide for us. Oh, we're never too far gone. We're never too forgotten. For your grace and your mercy, Lord. Your arms are open wide. So we come running. We come running into the arms of grace. We come running to the arms of grace.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
We sing.
Choir/Singers
Oh, what it sa. Christ is wonderful. Christ is, you know, Christ is a risen. It.
Steve Bannon
Incredible music. Music Incredible participation. We're gonna go back to the main stage. Caroline Wren, you join us. Coming from all over the world. Your thoughts. You knew Charlie in the organization very, very well.
Caroline Wren
I've known him for a very long time. And I used to do fundraising for Charlie at Turning Point. And I'll never, never forget, I used to fly all over the world, all over the country with him. And he was so selfless. He had no money, no apartment. And one time I set up up this donor meeting for him and I had to pay for the flight because he couldn't even afford the flight to go. And when I would set up donor meetings, I'd have to actually say to this donor, will you meet with Charlie Kirk, who they've never heard of, and can he sleep at your house? Because he didn't want to pay for hotel rooms. And so he gets a $10,000 check. He's so excited, calls me, he goes, caroline, I can hire two more people with this. So, Charlie, at some point you're gonna have to pay yourself something and you're gonna have to buy yourself a dress shirt. He couldn't even afford, like these clothes. And Don Jr. And Eric actually gave him a credit to the truck, to their suit guy and said, charlie, you've got to go buy a suit.
David Brody
That's a great story.
Caroline Wren
He would wear these sneakers everywhere, and it just showed. Like when he got that ten thousand dollar jacket, his first thought was, I can hire two more people, right? Not I'm gonna pay myself.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
Right?
Caroline Wren
That's who Charlie Kirk was.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
I love that story, Caroline.
Caroline Wren
I've spent so much time with him. I have absolute. I have chills just thinking about the information impact he had and what we can do to try and help and keep the movement going. It's. But it's hard. There's nobody like him.
Steve Bannon
Is this, Is this. Well, he's not replaceable. We know that he's going to do. We're going to have to build it with. With other. Have great people. Just like when Andrew left. Talk to me about this part of it. The first. Our first three hours of coverage, four hours of coverage, is all on his live Christianity.
Caroline Wren
Yes.
Steve Bannon
Right. And a lot of people, 15 people DC don't know the depth of this.
Caroline Wren
They don't. And what's. What's been beautiful is just seeing all the shared videos of Charlie talking about what Jesus meant to his life. And even the people who were politicos, I know, didn't realize how religious they were because they only heard them in the political context. And I think that is spreading rapidly with different people. I know my fiance has a 13 year old and a 15 year old and I. They never talked politics with me. And two nights ago we sit down for dinner and they said, caroline, will you. Did you know Charlie Kirk? Kirk, will you tell them about us? And I was so moved. They were all talking about at school and I said, you know, Charlie cared about three things. He cared about politics, Jesus and his family, and not in that order. And the 15 year old said he cared about Jesus first. Can we come with you to the funeral?
Mary Kathryn Hamm
Caroline, who designed the program today, who decided that it was going to be three hours, three hours of worship. That's a lot.
Dr. Gina Louden
It's amazing, y'.
Caroline Wren
All, Erica Kirk has her hand and she is so incredible right now that she's able to have this strength. But I know, I was just talking to Sergio Gore, who's speaking, one of Charlie's oldest friends, and that Erica called and asked him to speak. I think Erica really designed this program in the way that she knows that Charlie would have wanted it.
David Brody
And so, Caroline, how are you processing this yourself? I mean, this is so difficult, but yet we see so much amazing stuff come out of it already. But, but you just, you personally, Personally.
Caroline Wren
I've been through a roller coaster. I'd say I, I've gone through extreme anger that tried to roll myself back from that to, okay, well, what can we do to just push this organization and movement forward? And now I'm really, I'm. I'm looking to what Erica is doing because I believe that Charlie really looks offended. She did an interview with the New York Times this morning that was so beautiful, where she said they asked her about the death should this man get.
Steve Bannon
By the way, Drapers. I put it up immediately. His piece in the New York Times is a magnificent interview.
Caroline Wren
It is. And she said, I want the government to make that decision. I don't want to have to get up to heaven and say, an eye for an eye or an eye. And her strength to look at things like that. That's how I want to look at it. I don't know what happened here. Was it just a lone crazed person or was it a group? I don't know. I know that they took someone who was very important to me, to our movement. And I, I'm still trying to just process that, that he's gone. I haven't fully processed that. I think that's an important part of today. It will allow us to process that and start to think, now, now what?
Mary Kathryn Hamm
And as as. As we're watching this movement happen, Caroline, I'm noticing that all of the events that are upcoming are turning into Charlie Kirk. They're all. He's the headliner at everything now. It's a beautiful moment in a way.
Caroline Wren
I was just down in South America last week, and I met with President Milei, and he was up there talking about Charlie Kirk. President Pena Perego was talking about Charlie Kirk around the world. It was the first. It was all anyone was talking about in all these countries in Latin America. He just. He's reached. Something has changed like I've never seen before. And even for myself, I think that the change that we need to have is not political. If the change is bringing us closer to God and closer to Jesus, I think that's what Charlie was sent here to do.
Steve Bannon
Hang on for a second. Let's go back to the stage, to the music and the worship. We'll return in a moment.
Dr. Gina Louden
Glory to our God life who gave us life beyond the grave. Holy, holy is the Lord Holy, holy, holy, holy.
David Brody
I was with an Uber driver last night. His name was Steve, like a Vietnam vet. And he had driven Charlie in a Uber a couple years ago out here in Arizona. And when he heard of Charlie's assassination, it just shook him to the core. And he ended up deciding that he's going to dust off his Bible and return to church. And he's here and he's here, and there's the picture. There it is. That is Steve with his two grandsons, 16 and 19 years old. He said, I'm going to take my grandsons here. And by the way, they're all going to church, too. He was an Easter and Christmas guy, but now here he is today. Literally, he text me that picture about, I don't know, five, ten minutes ago. Yeah, this is the type of stuff Steve we're seeing all over the country. And it's not just in this last week or two. Let's just see what the dot, dot, dot of what God does from here on out.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
Yes. I told you. I rode over with two guys who had no, never met Charlie, never been to any of his events. Just the things that have happened subsequent, you know, seeing the coverage, seeing the social media.
Steve Bannon
Media.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
One of them wasn't even on Instagram. He's just on Twitter. And he said, it's just changed my life. And I had to come, imagine, all the way from Indiana. Didn't know Charlie. Never went to a rally, college, nothing. But had to be here today because he felt it that personal. Two young Men.
Steve Bannon
Caroline. Charlie Kirk is not replaceable. Erica Kirk is a very unique individual. I keep saying, next man up turns out to be a woman. Turning point, particularly I think the aspect of turning point we're seeing today for the first three hours, the deep spirituality of live Christianity. Where does this organization go?
Caroline Wren
Well, you know, the way that I bonded with Erica when I first met her was that she, like me, was a women's basketball player. And this is. You got it. Women's basketball players. We are tough. And you love the fight. Competitiveness. She is so tough. She's a fighter. And I was. She was to the right of Charlie. Keep in mind, she was actually pulled Charlie over even on immigration as he was struggling with things like that. She is going to be a force to be reckoned with, taking over this organization. And so I am very excited to see what she is able to do because something even with myself, as people are talking about who, you know, how we all step up and help with this. Charlie and Erica's ability to understand the Bible, to explain the bible to people who aren't necessarily, you know, we're kind of Christians only on every other Sunday. Their ability to do that is so irreplaceable. And so Erica, I really think can do that. But I was on the political side. I think she's gonna be able to step into that mold. I mean, she really. She got it. She, her and Charlie talked politics all the time. But then I do think Tyler Boyer. Tyler is so incredible. The way that him and Andrew have been able to go on air and grieve publicly but bring the organization forward at the same time. We all need to coalesce around them and help them just build this out in his name.
Steve Bannon
But it's not going to be one. It'll be mult Finish the work he started.
Caroline Wren
Yep.
Steve Bannon
Do we have Ben Berkwam or should we go back to the stage? Let's go back to the stage. I'm going to get organizer Ben Burn. Caroline Rena is with us. Dr. Gina Louden, David Brody. Real America's voice all day coverage. Spiritual side first. The celebration next. Let's go back to stage.
Dr. Gina Louden
Nothing else. How could I spread all my credit? I could sing these songs as I often do Every song and you never so I'll throw in my head praise you again and again cause all that I have is hallelujah hallelu. I know it's not. Let's go. I've got one response. I got just one. Move with my arms rich wide I will worship you so I throw up my head praise you again and again. Cause all that I have is hallelujah Hallelujah. No it's not I nothing else before except for singing hallelujah hallelujah. So I have I'll sing is still Come on, let the lion out today. Come on my soul oh, don't you give shy me lift up your song cuz you you got a lion and so those wounds get up and praise the lord. Come on my soul oh don't you give sh.
Choir/Singers
You.
Dr. Gina Louden
Praise the Lord for come on my soul oh, don't you get shy on me lift up your song. You got a light and some of those get up raise the Lord.
Choir/Singers
You.
Dr. Gina Louden
Come on every hand to the sky so I put my hand praise you again and again. No it's not much, nothing else except for a hall singing hallelujah. We sing hallelujah. We say hallelujah. Hallelujah. Somebody give a praise.
Choir/Singers
Hallelujah.
Dr. Gina Louden
Thank you, Jesus. You've been so good to me. Even in the storm you've been so good to me. I feel the Lord say death is not the end. I hear the Lord say death is not the end. It's only the beginning. Oh, death is not the end for those who believe in him. Death is not the end. Is nothing for those who trust in him. You can be sure that death is nothing for those who trust. Can we sing this chorus one more time?
Steve Bannon
I know a lot of us are on the phones and a lot of.
Jack Posobic
Us are taking this in, but if.
Dr. Gina Louden
We could have one moment with all of our attention pointing to the one who created us, who loves us the most, and nothing that you could do could ever make him love you any less anymore. Can we give him just about 30 seconds of our undivided attention as we sing this chorus with our hands to the head Heavens today surrendering everything that we're feeling, that we're facing, that we're.
David Brody
Wrestling with, knowing that he is sovereign.
Dr. Gina Louden
He is higher, we can trust him. Come on, let's worship him here. Every voice, every hand, you take it away. So I throw up my hands. Praise you again.
Choir/Singers
Sa.
David Brody
One more time.
Dr. Gina Louden
So I throw up my head. Praise you again. All that I have is you and I know it.
Choir/Singers
Sam.
Dr. Gina Louden
Are you Lord God? Oh, my worthy is Worthy is He.
Steve Bannon
Only.
Dr. Gina Louden
Are you Lord Almighty? Worthy is. Come on, tell him now. For you are holy. Are you lo. For you are holy. Holy glory. Are you Lord God Almighty? Worthy is worthy is I am. For you are holy. Are you lo? Are you lo. Come on, lift it up. This is a sound that can shake the nations. Worthy is the. Worthy is the lamb. For you are. For you are holy. Holy me are you, Lord God, all my. Worthy is the lamb. Worthy, worthy is the lamb. You are.
Choir/Singers
You are Holy.
Dr. Gina Louden
Are you, O God almighty. Worthy is the lamb. Worthy is the lamb. Worthy is the lamb. Worthy is the lamb. Worthy is the lamb. Worthy is the lamb. Also worthy is the lamb. And worthy is the lamb. And worthy is the lamb. One more time, every voice. You are holy are you.
Choir/Singers
I wore it.
Steve Bannon
We are supposed to take a short break here from the music because they have done an incredible. Let's go this. Can we go to the stage? Let's cut to the stage.
David Brody
Let's cut to the stage.
Choir/Singers
It.
Steve Bannon
Sa.
Choir/Singers
Sa.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
Peace.
Choir/Singers
Like a rhythm attendant. It is well. It is well with my soul. It is well with my soul. Sa with my soul. Sam.
Steve Bannon
Just incredible. That has been going on since 8 for almost three hours. We're going to take it. We're going to take a short break. David. I think not here. Real America's voice and want to thank Rob and Parker.
David Brody
Yes, Sig.
Steve Bannon
For the that. No commercial interruptions.
David Brody
Yes.
Steve Bannon
I tell you, let's go back to the main stage for a moment before they wrap up. Okay. Yeah.
David Brody
Okay.
Steve Bannon
We have 30 minutes, maybe less. I think we're running a little late, so stand by. I want to thank real America's voice. No commercial interruption. Celebration of life of Charlie Kirk in case some of the audience, particularly some of maybe watching War Room and they listen to it, maybe not watch it. Tell us, David and Gina, what were on the signs on both sides?
David Brody
It all said turning point and it didn't say turning point usa.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
Right. That this is a turning point is a turning point. That's what those signs mean. And really beautiful. And also on the other side of.
David Brody
The sign, well done and good and faithful servant.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
Right, Right.
David Brody
That sums it up. You know, I tell you what. Talk about, you know, in news, we talk about burying the lead or let's not bury the lead. They didn't bury the lead tonight or today.
Steve Bannon
No, no.
David Brody
This was Jesus first. And Charlie would have wanted it that way.
Steve Bannon
Yes, for sure.
David Brody
And can I just say one last thing? Obviously, beyond getting the chills, I think a lot of us had it here in this building. There was a point where there was silence and there was just. Just there was acapella, but it was just more a time of reflection. And in that moment, yes, the holy Spirit works at all times, but in that moment, specifically for people to, like, have a reckoning inside to kind of say, you know what? Let's think this through a little bit and just quiet. The noise. That was part of it.
Steve Bannon
Caroline, David keeps asking people, how do you process it? I think that was a processing moment when. When the. When the. When the musician said, hey, I want you to just pick the chorus up with no music. And you could feel it in the building.
Caroline Wren
You could feel it. It brought tears to my eyes. It's been a really beautiful ceremony, I think, so far, and it hasn't even gotten started, but just to have three hours of worship music and for all, an entire arena worshiping together. I've been in football arenas, and it's people screaming for their football team like, this is everyone here to worship God and celebrate the life of someone we all knew personally, Charlie, Kirk. And there's no one better to celebrate, truly.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
You know, Caroline, I don't know if you know this, but people stood in line all night long. They would not let them camp. There was a special rule. They couldn't camp, so they couldn't sit. They couldn't bring bags. These people have been standing here in line four blocks all night long with nothing. I mean, my back's hurting standing here already, and I. I can't even imagine. And they're all ages, all ethnicities, probably all religions. I'm just.
Steve Bannon
Oh, yes, yes.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
Because Charlie touched so many lives and. And it's so funny how his reach was outside of his reach, if that makes sense.
Caroline Wren
Yeah.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
Yeah.
Caroline Wren
My plane was from Houston to Phoenix, and as we landed, the entire plane broke out singing Amazing Grace, and. And I. Everyone's crying on the plane. This was a United flight. Yeah.
Steve Bannon
Not your typical United flight. Very special. What I love about this is, I don't think. And I think it's been the most important thing that has occurred about Charlie since the assassination. They didn't realize that this was the core of his work. Right. And this is why it was so important to start today with. This has been magnificent so far. Now we're going to have some more musicians. We're also going to have some of Charlie's, I guess, spiritual mentors. Right. Some. Some preachers, some evangelical preachers will come in and share the word with us. We're only. I just hope. And look, we got the President, United States, and he has. No. I just. As I said from the Kennedy center, the praise and worship part in the prayer vigil was so powerful. It's tough to follow that. Right.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
If anyone can.
Steve Bannon
Oh, no, Trump can. But the guys who formed the three Minutes Jack Posobic just left. I said, brother, you got to bring it. This is going to be tough to talk.
David Brody
I was kind of struck when the media has to has a meeting point this morning, and that media meeting point was right there at this church. And there was a huge cross. So we were at the foot of the cross.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
We were. And we got some beautiful pictures with the sunrise in the background. Chris Tomlin, Steve, is coming up next.
Steve Bannon
Tell us about him.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
I think it's really important to note that all of the amazing talent that you've seen so far, all of these people, they would say that the person they look to, the person that mentored them, is him. And he personally endured tragedy of his own. He actually lost a daughter in a very tragic accident. He said that is what drew him closer to God. And so I think you'll, you might even hear some of that tonight. You might not. He does talk about it pretty openly, but like I said, such an icon in the Christian music industry. So close to all of the people that have already. He's like before, close to Charlie, close to this audience. Steve.
David Brody
And then one last thing. Right after Chris Tomlin will be Pastor Rob McCoy for 10 minutes. And that's the, that's to me, the big speech.
Steve Bannon
McCoy is only going to speak for 10 minutes.
David Brody
Well, he said 11. Okay, it's slotted for 10. I'm looking at the schedule here. 10 minutes. With all due respect to President Trump, but that could be, indeed, from an altar call perspective, the biggest that we're going to see today.
Steve Bannon
Caroline, you think we ought to, if we did an altar call call, it would take two or three hours, I mean, to move all this. And you would, I tell you, the spirit that's here the first part of the morning, you would have an altar, I mean, you would have a Billy Graham level altar call, for sure.
Caroline Wren
Oh, absolutely. I've talked to a lot of the people who are speaking today, and all of them, I see, you know, I asked them, what are you planning to talk about? Some of them confirm with me about what they should say. Everyone, I think, is planning to be very upbeat and celebrating Charlie's life. I think that's what we're going to see a lot from today. And I really think that's what he would have wanted and want to see. And so I think that'll help move a lot of people through this grieving process and then focus on God and what's next.
Steve Bannon
Let's hang over a sec. Do we have Ben Berkhwam? Can we go To Ben. Let's go to the floor. Ben Berkhwom is on the floor. Maybe is David Zier still outside? We're gonna. By the way, I want to thank the real America's Voice production team. It's been absolutely magazine amazing. I think we're the only ones live in here.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
You know what I love, Steve? I love watching how they're behind, behind the cameras. They're at the switcher. They're doing all the things and they are. The words are on their lips. They're singing along to the Christian worship music. There's tears.
Steve Bannon
And if truth be told, for the team in Denver and here, of course, when the camera's not on me, I'm trying to direct. So I'm yelling and screaming, you get that shot, fade in, right. You return the camera. But it's been amazing. It's really. The cover's been great. Denver, you guys have been great. I know it's very tough. And by the way, we're taking feeds from the concerts and we're taking feeds from the house and we've also got our own cameras up here doing that. We got the great Ben Berquhamp down on the floor. Let's go to Ben. Ben Berkwam. What do you got for us, brother?
Ben Berkwam
Man, what a room, what an audience, what a group of people. We've got the war room posse over here and the great Matt Farrachi. I don't know if you want to jump in here, Matt, but you guys, you've been at everything. Talk to us about this, you know, your fight for America and what Charlie meant to you. And then looking at this, well, it's astounding.
Steve Bannon
Ben, the participation is amazing. Jesse and I were on the footprint at 4:42. Took us another three and a half hours to get in. And I was honored to meet Charlie back in 2021. Did some private events with him and then pitched in and helped with TP action. TP USA. We both knocked doors out in surprise at 110 degree heat because we need to reclaim our republic. And Charlie was the leader in that. It's a cultural and it's also a political, but most importantly, it's a spiritual war.
Jack Posobic
And Charlie was so strong in God.
Steve Bannon
So all honor to him. Matthew 25:23. Welcome home, my good and faithful servant. Thank you.
Jack Posobic
Good to see you again, sir. It's our honor.
Steve Bannon
Thank you so much.
David Brody
Ben.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
Hey, I'm sorry.
Caroline Wren
Hi, I'm Cindy Morelli and this is my husband Ed Waco. And we're from North Carolina. We're really glad to be here today because we really believe in Charlie and what Charlie did. He was a modern day prophet. He was a Christian prophet. He had a message for this generation. He was turning the hearts of the children back to God. Our youth, they needed him. He was a role model. He's a man who spoke manhood into men and that's what we need. Men are looking for someone to bring manhood out of. And Charlie understood. Men need a damsel to save. They need to go on an epic journey and they need to slay a dragon. And Charlie did all of that. He found his damsel to save, which was Erica. He was on an epic journey all around the world. I mean, an epic journey. And he found a dragon to slay. And that was the wokeism that was taking over the mind virus that was poisoning the minds of our youth. He was a one in a lifetime man. He's in heaven and rejoicing. We're going to see him one day and we just pray that as a seed drops into the earth, the Bible says unless a seed drops into the earth, it can't bring forth new life. He is not in the dead. He's in the heaven and it's going to bring new life.
Jack Posobic
Amen. Charlie's a great example for the youngsters, for the younger generation. We have a number of children that.
Steve Bannon
My wife sponsored, come overseas to go to school here in the United States.
Jack Posobic
And they're young men in their 20s.
Steve Bannon
And they need an example.
Jack Posobic
And we have four grandchildren, boys that also need that example. And they've been listening to Charlie and I just hope that they continue to.
Ben Berkwam
God bless you both. It's an honor. And just, I mean, just look behind me, Steve. Just the crowd is incredible. The size of this audience is just incredible.
Steve Bannon
We have filled up the, I think the, the hockey arena across the street. I think it's 15,000 or something. There's also, I think 300,000 to 500,000 tickets. And it just, they, they overflow here. I think over 100,000 people.
David Brody
Yeah, they're, they're updating the estimates here. They had thought, well, 100,000. No, no, they're at now 300,000. And, and it could be, obviously it could be more than that. We'll just see. But yeah, that's the latest update.
Steve Bannon
Do we have, do we still have Dave Bratt? Can we go to Dave Bratt? Parker, can we go to Dave Bratt?
Mary Kathryn Hamm
There he is.
Steve Bannon
Okay, there he is.
Dave Brat
Hey, team.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
Good morning.
Steve Bannon
Hey, Dave. You've Been able to watch this. Hopefully our coverage is up to its normal high standards. Give us an assessment of what you've seen here today at the Cardinal football stadium.
Dave Brat
No, it's just the peak of the peaks. The team, outstanding job. As my good friend Jack Brewer always says, every other second. Glory to God. That's what's going on there. It's glory to God. It's not religion. Everyone's looking straight up. Glory to God. That's what Charlie's all about. I just want to share, you know, after you go from the peak experience, don't get down when you leave, right? You got to keep the. And what did Charlie do right when he left the peaks? He went out to the university every day. That was his calling, his field of work. And the university is the place where faith and reason meet. And that was Charlie's real thesis statement, right? Faith and reason. And not in some sterile academic sense. Right at the beginning of the Bible, God opens it up. God creates the heavens and the earth. And God says. God says the word, let there be light. And that's Genesis 1. And then in John 1, the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. And God. I'm going to well up and start crying right now. But that's Charlie. That's the light that shines right in John 1. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. That is faith and reason. That's the tradition in which we all stand. That should be what the university is about. Just glorifying God, putting it all together. That's what the life of Charlie Kirk was. I'm so proud of you, Steve. You know, this day would not have come about without Rav and Steve Bannon and the war room and the great team there, Dr. Gina and David and Posto and Ben down on the floor, Ben sitting there worshiping like crazy. Just an astounding day of faith. And for folks who don't know, right, Liberty university, we got 170,000 students and 16,000 live kids yelling and screaming and singing like that every Wednesday and Friday at 10:30am so if you want more of the peak experience, do that. But then go out into the world and ask God, what is my calling? What can I do to serve God and keep that energy going? And thanks for being a blessing to us all. Steve.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
What happens. What happens after this on college campuses? What are the changes? Will we see tangible changes from this?
Dave Brat
Yeah. No. Well, you've heard right. 50,000 new chapters. You know, hopefully in the works. Every young person out there. I hope you do it. I got the law students at Liberty coming to me last week already saying we want to start a whole new lawyers, law school students for Charlie Kirk and Turning Point, right? So it's. It's on fire. And, you know, these are already, you know, college grads, legal scholars, they know the Constitution here at Liberty, and they're on fire for the faith. And so. Yeah, no, every. Every parent, get your kid, you know, involved. Don't. Don't let them have an open curriculum. Have them study the bi. Take a couple Bible courses, take church history.
Steve Bannon
You.
Dave Brat
You've got to learn this stuff. So when you leave that peak experience, right, the feelings are. Are incredible in there, there. But when you go out, you got to ground it in the word, right? The word of God. That's the Bible. That's the part that'll stick, right. Like the last great woman in the crowd there just said, you got plant the seed. She's quoting scripture left and right like the rest of you been doing all day. And this service this morning was just stunning, unreal.
Steve Bannon
We actually have. Can you take that number and get Ed Martin? Ed Martin is ready to come on. We got. Ed's gonna take a shower. You got that? That's how you get to him. We're gonna do some live producing. How's that? We've got some folks in. Dave, just hang on one second. Take that picture and just contact him. We got the. The Ed Martin's By Zoom. In By Zoom is going to hit us from Washington D.C. he's remote. Oh, you do? You did? Okay, fine. Because I think I might have forgotten to give it to you.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
I loved what that was. One student said, Steve, that I attribute part of who I am to what he was. And I think there's a lot of kids that feel that way today.
David Brody
You know who would be proud today? The founders of this country.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
Yeah.
David Brody
Because this is. It was the Bible first, and then everything else was a byproduct of this. And I think that's important to understand because we're here today seeing the same thing.
Steve Bannon
If you think about it now, Caroline, you saw that up close and personal. I've said on many occasions now that church Charlie is assassinated and dies at 31. But in his. His. In the 20s, in the mid-20s, when turning points started to get traction. Right. And then it started to have political impact, and particularly the 2024 election, you have not had an individual in their 20s that has had the kind of impact on the nation as A whole. You have to go back to the revolutionary generation. You have to go back. Back to Hamilton and to Jefferson, right into Madison and these. Both the revolutionary and then the founders around the Constitution and getting the country organized. A lot of these were young men in their 20s. Just the way the modern world is. It's harder to kind of make your impact as you kind of move up the food chain of life.
David Brody
Right.
Steve Bannon
But Charlie had this vision that, quite frankly, not very few people actually. Actually believed in at the beginning. I mean, he had a vision, but I tell people, it's one thing having a vision, it's another thing to be able to execute on the vision every day.
Caroline Wren
I was not a believer in the beginning. I was. He was my competitor. I was working at the time when he was starting to come up for the College Republican National Committee. So we're like, who's this kid coming up starting? Because, you know, this other call, essentially College Republicans. Right? And I would meet with.
Steve Bannon
Tell us about that, because that was. That was a. Charlie had some problems there at first. I mean, they were not. They were not happy.
Caroline Wren
We. Oh, no, we were not happy. And I was working out of the headquarters of the College Republicans, and we kept hearing about. We go to meet with donors. They're like, oh, don't worry. I've already supported, you know, my. Checked the box of my youth donation. I met with this kid, Charlie Kirk. We were like, who is he? So, you know, I. My arch nemesis. Until he then got my phone number, kept stalking me, saying, I really need to talk to you. Finally, I sat down.
Steve Bannon
That's true.
Caroline Wren
I walked out of the meeting and I said, that man's gonna be president. And I. And I told the College Republicans, I quit. I'm going to work for Charlie. And so I became a turncoat of my own organization and went to Turning Point USA because he just. I didn't want to have to compete against him anymore. You couldn't compete. He was so good. And seeing what he's grown now, and I just want to. You know, people told me that they've all signed up, that there's been 60,000 people try and start new chapters. And, you know, I've talked to a lot of this church Turning Point staff. What? Charlie was so great. This staff has been with him for a long time. They love working with him.
Steve Bannon
Oh, yes.
Caroline Wren
They're trying to grieve with losing their friend, their mentor, and also deal with how to scale up with 60,000 new chapter requests. So my advice to you is, do not wait. Go. If you are in high school or you have a child that you know wants to go, just go file a Turning Point chapter. Don't wait for someone to reply to your email or to call you. Charlie gave us all the tools that we needed to move this movement forward. They're available on Turning Point's website or others. They will get caught up. But for right now, we cannot lose a single moment. And so go, go just start the chapter in your college campus. Go start it in your high school campus. Help someone that you know, go and do it and the staff will be able to hopefully catch up with you.
David Brody
And to that end, you know, Rob McCoy used to say this line, he goes take care of your own bean patch. In other words, take care of what's right in front of you. You know, and that's where the action comes in. You know, sometimes we get overwhelmed at the Democratic Republican politics and the whole thing. Forget all about that. You know, what's going on in your own local community. Just, just start there.
Mary Kathryn Hamm
Your own household is where you start your own household.
David Brody
That's a great point.
Steve Bannon
Well, I got news from you. You can't. There's no power on earth. Obviously it could, could stand in front of what we saw for the first two hours. I mean, it's next level. Dave Brat thoughts? We're trying to get Ed Martin, who's got a very busy agenda, could not make it out here, but very much supported the. Phyllis Schlagen actually supported the. Okay, let's cut to the. Let's cut. We're going to cut for the pipes. Charlie's pipes right now.
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Date: September 22, 2025
Summary by Segment with Timestamps
The episode is a live, lengthy special broadcast from Cardinal Stadium in Glendale, Arizona, commemorating the life and legacy of Charlie Kirk. The event—the largest of its kind for a conservative political figure in recent memory—is equal parts memorial, revival, and rally, with deeply spiritual overtones and overt calls to Christian faith. Across ten hours, a roster of media personalities, politicians, faith leaders, and everyday Americans reflect on Kirk’s influence—especially his evangelism, youth outreach, and the movement he led before his recent assassination. The gathering is historic, drawing massive crowds and government officials, symbolizing a spiritual and cultural inflection point for American conservatism.
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Unity of Faith and Activism:
On the Event's Spiritual Atmosphere:
Music and Healing:
Testimonies of Changed Lives:
Leadership in Grief:
Massive Turnout:
Call to Action:
| Timestamp | Segment/Event | Details / Highlights | |---------------|----------------------------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:25 | Opening Tribute & Context | Speakers outline the scope, significance, and intent of the commemoration. | | 04:24–09:05 | Setting the Spiritual Tone | Discussion of the event’s Christian core, planning of the service, importance of testimony and faith leaders, first worship set. | | 09:18–16:49 | Extended Worship | Dr. Gina Louden & choir lead the stadium in worship, focusing on themes of victory, identity in Christ, and faith in adversity. | | 16:49–22:26 | Reflections: Kirk’s Public Faith and Political Impact | Bannon, Brody, and Hamm discuss Kirk’s religious growth, connection to evangelical community, and how he viewed politics as evangelism. | | 22:26–29:40 | Testimonies and Next Man Up | Personal stories of Kirk’s influence, theme that his legacy is for others to pick up and continue (“next man/woman up”). | | 39:39–44:06 | Kirk’s Spiritual Development, Role of Erica Kirk | Recollections about Kirk’s faith journey, marriage, and Erica Kirk’s influence; shifting faith from private to public. | | 53:17–55:11 | The Stadium, Approach and Security | Jack Posobic recounts Kirk’s vision of filling a stadium, describes the massive operation and security for the event. | | 62:03–64:10 | Pastoral Testimonies and Worship Leaders | Commentary on the biblical grounding of the event and the role of musicians like Phil Wickham and Cody Carnes in the service. | | 74:29–76:06 | Interviews with Young Attendees | Ben Berkwam interviews young people about their faith, boldness, and Kirk’s personal influence. | | 97:11–99:00 | Theological Reflections | Bishop Aubrey Shines and others compare Kirk to early Christian martyrs, stress the eternal/supernatural significance of the moment. | | 105:10–108:16 | Turning Point Prep Students and Kirk’s Generational Impact| Young men from Turning Point’s gap year/prep program credit Kirk with shaping their faith and vocational path; Kirk compared to Obi Wan Kenobi (Star Wars). | | 116:16–118:54 | Reflection on Kirk’s Humility and God-Centered Life | Jack Posobic and crew note Kirk’s focus on God’s plan over ego or self-brand, rooting the movement in Christ rather than ideology. | | 120:46–121:47 | Erica Kirk’s Grief and Resilience | Posobic and Hamm share observations about Erica Kirk’s spiritual strength and leadership. | | 134:27–135:40 | Caroline Wren's Story: Early Days of Turning Point | Personal insight into Kirk’s self-sacrifice, organization-building, and character. | | 140:48–141:46 | Uber Driver Returns to Faith | Story of a Vietnam vet inspired by Kirk's death to return to church with his grandchildren. | | 173:24–177:32 | Crowd Reactions & Legacy Stories | Further reactions from attendees, families, international visitors; stories of Kirk’s impact on men, youth, and the movement. | | 177:47–180:48 | Dave Brat’s Theological Assessment | Academic perspective on the biblical roots of Kirk’s mission, faith and reason, and the need to ground the movement in scripture. | | 183:12–185:02 | Organizing the Next Generation | Wren and Bannon discuss Turning Point’s early resistance, new chapter growth, and call for everyone to act locally to maintain momentum. |
Throughout, the tone is earnest, emotional, and rich with spiritual urgency. Speakers balance grief with a clear sense of hope and mission, echoing Charlie Kirk’s own core messages: unwavering faith, commitment to family and country, the necessity of visible Christianity, and the belief that true change begins with the transformation of the individual heart. Music and worship form the emotional spine of the gathering, and repeated references to scripture, the American founding, and personal testimony reinforce the sense that a pivotal historical moment is underway.
For listeners who missed the event, this episode provides:
For further details or to locate specific segments referenced above, use the provided timestamps.