CHECK THE NEWS - SEPTEMBER 20TH, 2025

Summary

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Real America's Voice: Check The News – September 20, 2025

Episode Overview

This episode of Check The News (Sept 20, 2025) dives deep into the aftermath of political commentator Charlie Kirk's assassination, the arrest of the alleged killer, and a heated debate on how Christians (and society) should respond to politically motivated violence—specifically violence linked to groups like Antifa and Transtifa. Pastor Dallas leads a passionate, often confrontational monologue, sharply criticizing what he sees as misplaced Christian compassion and hypocrisy, especially regarding calls to "pray for the killer." He emphasizes the need for legal accountability, explores biblical anger, and rails against what he views as double standards in both media and Christian communities.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Killing of Charlie Kirk and Allegations Against Antifa (03:48–13:00)

• Pastor Dallas opens with anger and incredulity at the response to Charlie Kirk's killer. He claims the killer is associated with Antifa, links Antifa to other recent violent acts, and lambasts both lukewarm law enforcement and Christian responses.
• He rails against what he describes as misplaced Christian compassion, arguing that "every member of Antifa and Transtifa should be in leg irons by sundown" and that kindness toward their members is naive and dangerous.
• He presents a historical parallel, contrasting American revolutionary roots with a "meek" Christianity, refusing to support praying for the killer.
• Memorable quote:

  "I'm glad you're like a much more developed in your faith. I think you're full of crap, to be honest with you. And I think it's a stupid response."
  — Pastor Dallas (06:32)

• He argues that to "pray for killers" is not only unhelpful but also unscriptural, referencing biblical passages where punishment—not compassion—is prescribed for evil-doers.

2. Christians, Compassion, and ‘Fake’ Virtue (06:00–15:00)

• Pastor Dallas scathingly addresses Christian commenters:

  "Why don't you go up to Charlie Kirk's widow and his two orphan kids and tell them how we need to be praying for the person? And maybe they are. They seem like the type of nice family that would."
  (10:26)

• He insists that justice and anger are appropriate; quotes scripture about hating evil and calls for actual consequences over empty gestures.
• He draws a distinction: Sinner vs. Wicked, arguing the latter deserve condemnation, not intercession.
• Cites New Testament examples of Paul confronting and cursing wrongdoers.

3. Double Standards and Antifa/Transtifa Violence (18:14–21:45)

• Incident Analyst summarizes significant acts of violence associated with Antifa, like Portland (2020) and the Pursuit Church attack in Seattle.
• Pastor Dallas presses: The Seattle incident, where Antifa militants attacked Christians with urine-filled balloons, physical assault, and threats during an outdoor worship event.
• Asserts if Christians committed similar acts at a gay pride event, the outcry (and consequences) would be immediate and severe.
• Memorable quote:

  "If a Christian group went to Gay Pride...and started throwing things at them and hitting them and calling for them to be killed, you would be brought up on the—You’ve got people in jail right now for burning out their truck tires on a rainbow crosswalk as a hate crime. But then this is cool."
  — Pastor Dallas (20:07)

4. On Anger as a Christian Virtue (21:45–30:03)

• Argues that anger is not just permitted but sometimes required ("Be angry and sin not"), and a lack of anger at evil is a failing.
• Criticizes Christians who "glorify getting slapped in the face" and lack righteous indignation, referencing biblical stories of Paul and Jesus showing anger at evil and hypocrisy.
• Memorable quote:

  "If somebody slaps your wife in the face and you have peace and no anger, you don’t have a Christian virtue. You have no nut sack."
  — Pastor Dallas (22:53)

• Challenges Christians to show the same "compassion" for others in similar positions—e.g., Derek Chauvin during the George Floyd case—arguing hypocrisy in selective outrage and mercy.

5. Details of the Investigation & Arrest (33:16–44:25)

• News Reporter Segment (33:16):
  Detailed rundown of the investigation into Charlie Kirk's murder:
  • Suspect Tyler Robinson identified through family tips and surveillance.
  • Evidence includes clothing matching surveillance images, Discord message logs, and recovery of a bolt-action Mauser rifle.
  • Discord messages allegedly discuss weapon drops and engravings, with casings found at the scene with phrases like "Hey fascist," "bella chow," and "if you read this you are gay lmao."
• Pastor Dallas reaction:
  Skeptical about law enforcement capability; expresses surprise the investigation needed voluntary cooperation to obtain Discord messages.
• Discussion of motives and group affiliations:
  • Investigation points to growing political radicalization, disdain for Kirk, and alleged ties to Antifa or similar rhetoric.
  • Pastor Dallas maintains: group-based violence should lead to group accountability (much like Al Qaeda or other terror organizations).

6. Reflections on Justice—Death Penalty, Compassion & True Christianity (48:19–End)

• Expresses a mixture of relief and satisfaction that the suspect was apprehended alive, hoping it yields further intelligence and accountability.
• Reiterates that “mercy to criminals is cruelty to the innocent,” calling for “federal charges, quick trial, execution” for the killer.
• Prays for Kirk’s widow and orphans, while pointedly noting a lack of compassion for the murderer.
• Quote:

  "If that execution of that shooter is on pay per view, I'm going to order it and make popcorn and grill out and invite friends over."
  — Pastor Dallas (58:15)

• Recalls a personal interaction with Kirk, praises his communication of Christian theology, and laments senseless violence.
• At the end, offers the “sinner’s prayer” and an invitation to connect with the ministry.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• On not praying for the killer:

  "I have not one ounce of compassion in my heart for Charlie Kirk's killer. How's that?"
  — Pastor Dallas (06:54)

• On the criminality of Antifa/Transtifa:

  "They should be rounded up as a domestic terrorist group."
  — Pastor Dallas (08:20)

• On biblical models of anger:

  "I'm not making a doctrine out of it... but don't tell me I'm out of line to say domestic terrorists should be arrested."
  — Pastor Dallas (23:56)

• On hypocrisy in Christian responses to violence:

  "Did you call for people to pray for Derek Chauvin? When that happened, did you call for prayer for him? I want to see that post... you're a hypocrite, that's why."
  — Pastor Dallas (29:21)

• On the impact for Kirk’s family:

  "If somebody breaks in my house to hurt my family, I'm going to pray for them? I'd turn their head into a canoe."
  — Pastor Dallas (10:41)

• On the death penalty:

  "They can't fry that guy. If, if that execution of that shooter is on pay per view, I'm going to order it and make popcorn and grill out and invite friends over."
  — Pastor Dallas (58:15)

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Key Timestamps

• 03:48 – Dallas launches into response to Kirk killing, Antifa/Transtifa accusations
• 06:00 – Addressing Christian calls for compassion and praying for the killer
• 18:14–19:38 – Analyst recaps Portland and Seattle Antifa violence
• 21:45 – “If a Christian group did this at Pride...” double standards argument
• 22:53 – On righteous anger in Christianity
• 29:21 – Hypocrisy: comparing empathy for different violent actors
• 33:16 – News segment: investigation details and how suspect was identified
• 43:53 – Reading of messages engraved on shell casings; their possible meaning
• 48:19 – Dallas reflects on suspect’s arrest and the importance of intelligence
• 58:15 – Pastor Dallas: “I’d order the execution on pay per view”
• 60:00+ – Closing: prayer, ministry pitch, and final reflection on Charlie Kirk

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Tone & Delivery

• Pastor Dallas is confrontational, blunt, and unapologetically harsh, expressing outrage—sometimes with crude humor—at political violence and what he sees as weak, hypocritical, or “fake” Christian responses.
• Heavy use of sarcasm and biting critique, especially toward perceived double standards on violence and justice.
• Frequent biblical references to support stances on anger, justice, and Christian duty.
• Emotional rawness when discussing the gravity for Kirk’s family and the role of public policy in preventing this kind of violence.

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Takeaway

This episode is a firebrand response to an era of political violence and polarization. Pastor Dallas frames the assassination of Charlie Kirk as part of a dangerous pattern linked to radical groups like Antifa and rails against Christian approaches he sees as naive or complicit. The call is for justice over compassion for the “wicked,” anchored in biblical narratives and a robust belief in righteous anger. The episode offers not just reactions but a worldview—one that sees the tragedy as a test of resolve, both strategically and spiritually, for America and for Christians.

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Transcript

[Pastor Dallas]

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[Pastor Dallas]

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[Pastor Dallas]

Go. Welcome back to Seattle, Washington Jonathan Sh for the last day in Seattle breaking Charlie Kirk's killer caught alive. Who is it? We're going to get into it because I don't really know much about it but I want to see it. But I want to address something first. Sorry to get everything started on a negative note. This is something that I posted on Twitter and Instagram. That's not a joke. Some people wrote lol. I'm not joking. Instagram need it said again. Every member of Antifa and Transtifa should be in leg irons by sundown now. Do you know why I say that? Because this guy is a member of Antifa. He's in their message boards now. That's the guy. The guy that went after Trump was with them. This guy's with them. The the people throwing objects and hurting journalists and Christians that assemble are Antifa. And then Russell Johnson in Seattle had his family evacuated again by the FBI that he's next from Antifa. So here's the kind of moron Christians that you deal with. Which half you Christians will stand up for the right of the people to kill you. You know in the book of acts, let me tell you something. We fought something called the Revolutionary War so that we don't have to live in the Roman Empire war in places. Do you know part of the reason people came to this land and started this nation was to escape England allowing them to be killed and in Europe different churches allowing Christians to be killed. And I'm not going back to that. So I love all you Christians in your frickin fake compassion where you're you have more love than Jesus. We need to pray for Charlie Kirk's killer. I pass. How's that? I have not one ounce of compassion in my heart for Charlie Kirk's killer. How's that? So I'm glad you're like a much more developed in your faith. I think you're full of crap to be honest with you. And I Think it's a stupid response? I think it's as stupid as when that guy stabbed that lady in the neck on the bus. Instead of helping the lady be like, we need to pray for him. No, I'm good. Why don't you get him in handcuffs and put him in an electric chair and fry him and send him to hell. That's how I feel. And you know what? Jesus didn't disagree with me. Jesus didn't say we need to pray for child molesters. He said, anybody that causes harm to one of these little ones, it would be better if a millstone was tied to their neck and they were thrown into the lake. That's what Jesus said. So again, I'm glad you became more full of love than Christ. I'm not for vigilante justice. I'm not for calling. I didn't say every member of Antifa and Transtifa should be six feet under by sundown. They should be rounded up as a domestic terrorist group. You know, some lady disagreeing with me. Let me see the comments. This is the kind of crap you have to put up with from your own side. Now, have they committed a crime? Yes. Murder is a crime. Conspiracy to commit murder is a crime. How many people have to be killed? The school shooting in Minnesota was Antifa or trans Tifa. That's not. Somebody wrote trans Tifa. Lol. That's an actual group. Have they committed a crime? Charlie was an expert at debating ideas, not vilifying what's dehumanizing. Put them in leg irons and take them to prison. Stick to folding laundry. We are the church, not the judge jury. And I didn't say I'm the judge jury. And it's executioner. If you're going to use. It's judge jury and executioner, not judge, jury and persecutor. Antifa and the other groups are not yet. They are our enemies. A group of people. Al Qaeda is our enemy. The people in Al Qaeda, I hope they get saved. I hope the people in Antifa get saved in prison. But if you are a part of a group, how many people have to die before you realize you're supposed to take actions in line with the law? You are not allowed to be a domestic terrorist. That's illegal. You are not allowed to be a part of a group that calls for the murder of people. You dummy. Antifa and the other groups are not our enemies. And if you go. I saw the ladies from the Seattle area. So if you go to somebody's church that I preach for be Mad at me and not the pastor. I didn't run this speech by anybody. Antifa and the other groups are not our enemies. Please don't start using the same rhetoric that led to this horrific event. When did I call for his death? Stupid. Then you look at her profile. Which I'm not going to pull up because I'm not looking to ruin the lady's life. You know. Third picture down. Mask. Mask on. In 2020. At least in 2020 the people wore clothing to let you know they're morons. I actually kind of miss masks. Because you could just know who's stupid. You brainwashed loser. No. So Russ. So let me ask you a question. So Russell Johnson's family should have to be in hiding and he should have to be worried about his family's life because we don't want to vilify. No. There are people that need vilified. You know who they're called? Villains. Villains are to be vilified. You dummy. Now you got Christians. But I'm out of here. Good. No one will notice. Hope the ministry survives without your viewership. And then where's the other guy? We need to pray for him or whatever. We must pray for them. Some will come to faith as Saul did. We need the heart of Christ now more than ever. By the way. The heart of Christ was. Anyone that does harm to one of these little ones a millstone should be around their neck and thrown into the lake. That's the heart of Christ. And I wrote you can pray for people in leg irons. I didn't say some guy at the bottom. Pretty sure he just said he was willing to do that. Are you? I'm not unwilling. But I'm not. I'm not wasting. One sec. I don't have an ounce of compassion. I'm glad. I'm glad that you have such a bleeding heart for cold blooded killers. Why don't you go up to Charlie Kirk's widow and his two orphan kids and tell them how we need to be praying for the person. And maybe they are. They seem like the type of nice family that would. You think if somebody breaks in my house to hurt my family I'm going to pray for them? Or feel I would put a. I'd turn their head into a canoe. Go to sleep that night for eight hours and dream pleasant dreams. It wouldn't bother me in the least. Harmless as doves. Wisest serpents. And a ton of you get an F on the wisest serpent's part. I'm sick of it. Some other Christian site. We need to also pray he has a soul too. I'm not. I'm not praying for him. So go find another compassionate. Go find another. Stay home, save lives, mask up. It ain't me. So I just wanted to let everybody know up front, if you want somebody that's got a bleeding heart for terror, I don't feel an ounce of compassion for the people involved in dropping the Twin Towers. If Jeffrey Epstein was alive, you wouldn't catch me praying for him. There's a difference between sinner and wicked. The Bible says the Lord is angry with the wicked every day. No. Let me ask you a question to all my bleeding heart brainwashed, spineless balless Christian cohorts. What did Paul do in Acts? Let's read it. Let me see Acts 13 on the screen. Verse? I don't know. Start at 16 and we'll go from there. Go to 11. 9. Saul, also known as Paul, was filled with the Holy Spirit. This is a, by the way, New Testament, post resurrection. He looked the sorcerer in the eye. Then he said, this is Paul, a Christian, speaking to an unbeliever. You son of the devil. Full of every sort of deceit and fraud. Enemy of all that is good. Will you never stop perverting the true ways of the Lord? Watch now, for the Lord has laid his hand of punishment upon you and you'll be struck blind. You will not see the sunlight for some time. Instantly, mist and darkness came over the man's eyes and he began groping around, begging for someone to take his hand and lead him back to 11 and 12's after 11, what would. What would you have done if you were standing there? Those people in my comments when the guys. Okay, Paul, that's enough. Heal him now. Paul never healed him. Be blind, you son of the devil. I don't think that's right for you to call. It's in the scripture spoken by the Holy Spirit. Some of you think you have more love than Jesus has, but you don't. It's not love you have, it's brain deadness. We shouldn't vilify them. We shouldn't vilify antifa. We shouldn't vilify villains. There are people that want you and your family dead and you're too stupid to take the correct posture. What about Jesus with the thief on the cross? He was a thief, not a mass killer. 12. Of course, if the thief on the cross had done what he did in Chicago, he'd be out on cashless bail giving a lecture at University of Illinois on racial injustice. When the governor saw what had happened, he became a believer. Oh, so this kind of strength causes people to get saved. The government said, well, if you're going to be mean like that, then I don't want anything to do with you. No, it's actually the, the powerful gospel that hates evil. All these people that don't talk. You know, I, I like Jonathan, but a lot of what he, the way he says stuff, you know, I feel like he could reach a lot more people. Who do you reach with your mangina? All these people always say how many more people you could reach if you'd soften up. And they don't reach anybody. I had a guy write me, this is years ago, Jonathan, I went to Bible college with you. I just, I like a lot of what you have to say, but the way you say it, I just feel like you could reach more people. He is okay. He's in the ministry.

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[Incident Analyst]

10Th Portland, August 2020 Antifa militants attacked Trump supporters leaving a rally, causing severe beatings, including one man who was hospitalized after being dragged out of his car. These incidents show a pattern of targeted violence, often during protests. Some details, like the Jersey City case, are less clear, but they're the worst based on reported harm. If you need more specifics or dates.

[Pastor Dallas]

Why did you leave out what happened in Seattle? Tell me about what happened when Pursuit Church was holding an outdoor worship service. What did Antifa do to the church members?

[Incident Analyst]

I didn't leave out Seattle. It's actually one of the incidents I mentioned briefly. But let me zoom in on what happened with Pursuit Church in late August. During an outdoor worship service by Pursuit Church at Cal Anderson park, antifa militants swarmed the event. They attacked attendees throwing water balloons filled with urine at Christians worshiping, as Pastor Russell Johnson described on Fox News. They also physically assaulted people pushing and striking church members during the service, part of a Don't Mess with Our Kids rally. More than 20 arrests were made after the clashes and a police officer was injured. Posts on X showed antifa chanting threats like Kill yourself at Pastor Johnson after he left. The FBI's investigating it as targeted violence against religious groups Pretty brutal. Anything else on this?

[Pastor Dallas]

No. Now I want to tell you something. And the example I'm going to give is an example that I'm not for the same Christians that are defending antifa. If I organized a church group and at Gay Pride, threw urine filled balloons at gay people for being gay and then hit one of them in the head with a crowbar, would you be calling for we need to pray for Jonathan. You know, he's not the enemy. He's one of us. No, you'd be. He's not us. So why do you have an anger against Christians and you. You know, people write the most vile crap that you could imagine against Paula White, Kenneth Copeland, who. Whatever you think about them, they do believe that Jesus Christ was born of a virgin, that he's the Messiah, and that you have to receive Jesus Christ to go to heaven. They're Christians. So you got no problem calling Paula White a whore. Kenneth Copeland's a demon. And then these people that have killed people. There's two orphan children today and a widow. And you. We need to tone down the rhetoric. Let's not vilify people that shot. You should watch. You know, maybe I made a mistake in not playing Charlie Kirk from the one angle. Getting shot through the neck and the blood gushing out, which is what I saw when again, a contingent of morons in the chat. In the chat. Don't block anybody. I don't care. I went to public school. When a contingent of people know we need to pray, I mean, you still, again, there's always going to be a segment of Christianity that is mentally challenged, to say the least. You had a guy do a TikTok in his car, a grown man praying that Charlie Kirk will be raised from the dead on the fourth day from his car. You like you're allowed to do that. Let me tell you something. If a Christian group went to Gay Pride and surrounded all the gay and started throwing things at them and hitting them and calling for them to be killed, you would be brought up on the. You've got people in jail right now for burning out their truck tires on a rainbow crosswalk as a hate crime. But then this is cool. All I'm saying is it should go both ways. If it's wrong for Christians, and I, I believe it is. I believe in freedom of speech and freedom of expression. But if one group can do whatever they want, whenever they want, and then another group's arrested, that's not right. And you don't have Christian groups trying to kill. You know, some people are so brainwashed by the media, they actually think there's right wing extremists. Where are the Christians that have tried to kill. You can take that off. Where are the Christians that have tried. That have tried to kill gays and all that? It's not there. Yeah, I'm sure you could drum up like maybe one or two examples in the last 40 years. There's nothing recent and this is constant. There's a pastor in FBI protection in this city right now because of this group. So what do you think the response is? Pray for them. I'm not telling you a spiritual response. Did I say everyone refused to pray for these people? No, I said there needs to be a government policy where domestic terrorists are put in leg irons and put in prison. And apparently that's too controversial to take. And then reading in the chat, this pastor's angry. Do you know it's not a sin to be angry? Did you know sometimes it's a sin not to be angry? If somebody slaps your wife in the face and you have peace and no anger, you don't have a Christian virtue. You have no nut sack. Goliath would still be mouthing off to Israel if half you people were in charge. It's the problem with the church. They glorify getting slapped in the face and there's no kind of stand. I just read you in the book of Acts, Paul, cursing a human being with blindness. I'm not making a doctrine out of it. You've never heard me do it once. But don't tell me I'm out of line to say domestic terrorists should be arrested. And I'll tell you another thing nobody's ever going to say I'm a coward. You know what they say? I like what Jonathan has to say, but I don't like how he says it. What do I say that's wrong? What have I said that's unscriptural? One of you ever heard me say no. I know this isn't in the Bible, but I feel like we should do it anyway. Hate what is evil. David Haney Jr. That's right. Love what is good, hate what is evil. And you're the one that's wrong when you have no hatred. Not hate, evil people, but hate what's evil and there should be. There should be what there's going to be on this guy. Federal charges, quick trial, execution. And you're not going to see me crying when he's. He is a soul. That's great. Should have thought of that before you shot a father through the neck, you know, I don't like it. So if I want. I want to get this out there. So you don't go to my church. I don't want people. I don't want these type of Christians in my church that are fake Christians. Because you're fake. It's just a nice thing to post. Like, you're higher than everybody, but you're full of crap. Really. You've shut yourself in a room and prayed in tongues for, like, 15 minutes for that assassin. Oh, God, save him. You just type it because it makes you seem like you're. Like you're the Ukraine flag version of Christians. Post the Ukraine flag. And you couldn't find Ukraine on a map if somebody had a 357 to your head. I don't like it if you can't tell. So I'm sorry. I'm sorry I'm not the stereotypical American pastor now, remember, there's also people on the other side that are hurting. I don't care. Guys got a dad. Listen, if Camila did this, you think I'd expect anybody to have compassion for me? I wouldn't have any compassion for me. You're a fake Christian. You're an I support Ukraine Christian that has sent no support to Ukraine. The only support you sent is a Ukraine emoji flag in your bio, which doesn't help anybody. I just. I just had grok list off 10 serious crimes of violence of antifa. Now, let me tell you something. If I'm an Assemblies of God preacher and I commit an act of violence against someone, should everyone in the Assemblies of God be put in leg irons? No, because the Assemblies of God doesn't condone that. But if I'm a part of a group that has publications where I hit someone in the head with a crowbar, and they have publications calling for all of their members to do that and recruiting more members to do it. That's called a domestic terrorist group, boys and girls, and that's illegal. What crime have they committed? They? That crime. It's a crime to incite violence against a group or individual. Let me see the Bible verse. Be angry and sin not. You know, not only is it not a sin to be angry, there's a command to be angry. You know, Goliath is a person, too. He has brothers and a family. David, you'd have been lecturing. You'd have been lecturing, Goliath. David, you know, do you really think you need to hold this head in your hand? It's enough. Be ye angry. There's our memory verse for the day. Ephesians 4:26 Be ye angry and sin not, and don't let the sun go down upon your wrath. Yeah, I still won't be talking about this tomorrow. So I'm following the whole scripture. I'm upset at what happened, very much so. I'm not going to take it into my own hands. And I'm not. I'm not going to do anything. You know, I'm not going to let it fuel sin. I'm not going to go find somebody and punch them. I'm not going to go use it as an excuse. You know what? I don't drink. But this is different. What happened that this made me so mad and turned to some kind of vice? I'm angry, I'm not sinning, and I'll be done with it by sundown. How's that? It's a good point, Steve. What would Christians say to Jesus as he whipped people in the temple and flipped their tables over again? 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[News Reporter]

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. We got him. On the evening of September 11, a family member of Tyler Robinson to a family friend who contacted the Washington County Sheriff's Office with information that Robinson had confessed to them or implied that he had committed the incident. This information was relayed to the Utah County Sheriff's Office and scene investigators at Utah Valley University. This information was also conveyed to the FBI.

[Pastor Dallas]

Thanks Bob.

[News Reporter]

Investigators reviewed additional video footage from UVU surveillance and identified Robinson arriving on UVU campus in a gray Dodge Challenger at approximately 8:29am on September 10th in which he is observed on video in a plain maroon T shirt, light colored shorts, a black hat with a white logo and light colored shoes. When encountered in person by investigators in Washington county on September 12th in the early morning hours, Robinson was observed in consistent clothing with those surveillance images. Investigators interviewed a family member of Robinson who stated that Robinson had become more political in recent years. The family member referenced a recent incident in which Robinson came to dinner prior to September 10th and in the conversation with another family member, Robinson mentioned Charlie Kirk was coming to ue cappy social.

[Pastor Dallas]

Who I believe for some reason said he had help and there are discord messages and Trump said all involved will get held accountable. See, that looks so I don't actually care if that housewife agrees with me or not, because if Trump agrees with me that everybody involved. You know, you could be a part of Antifa, particularly up here in the Pacific Northwest and just do whatever you want. And no, you know, the mayor of Seattle stuck up for the people assaulting the Christians and said those Christians have no right to be what to do what they're doing in public. With Harmeet Dhillon involved President Trump, there are people that are involved that I feel like that emboldens criminals. I mean, there's a clip. I don't know if I'm going to get to it today. They robbed a Louis Vuitton store in Chicago last night. They pulled a big truck up and backed it through the glass, took the whole inventory, then left and ran over a person on the way out. If you don't mercy to criminals is cruelty to the innocent. I don't mean mercy of the forgiveness of sin. It's not my job to decide who goes to heaven or who goes to hell. It would just be me kicking a ball around up there by myself. But no, I'm kidding. I hope you all go. But this phony Christian compassion is exactly what the devil would love to wipe you out. And Paul didn't have it. I'm going to read you another one from Paul. Go to Acts 16 after he leads the jailer to the Lord. Let's see real New Testament Christianity at midnight. No, no past that. After he leaves the jailer at 30 something. 30. And when it was day. So Paul gets sent in prison at night. They pray and sing praises to God. Earthquake hits, they lead the jailers to the Lord. Then it's daybreak. And when it was day, the mag. Paul is an interesting dude. It's funny that he like praised, chains came off, doors came up and led the jailers of the Lord. Then just like sat around in the unlocked cell. The magistrate sent the sergeant saying, let those men go. 36 and the keeper of the prison told this saying to Paul, the magistrates are sent to let you go so you can depart and go in peace. So what does Paul do? But Paul said to them, they beat us openly, uncondemned or without a trial, and were Roman citizens, which is illegal, and have cast us into prison. And now they want us to leave privately. No thanks. Let them come themselves and pardon us. 38 and the Sergeants told these words to the magistrates. And the magistrates feared when they heard that they were Romans. You did something illegal to me. You think I'm just going to sweep it under the mat? Come here publicly and answer for what you did. Okay. Curse the sorcerer with blindness. This attitude you think you have, that's New Testament Christianity. It's just you being a little. No words we can say as Christians. One starts with a B, one starts with a C, and one starts with a picture. Continue.

[News Reporter]

They talked about why they didn't like him and the viewpoints that he had. The family member also stated Kirk was full of hate and spreading hate.

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The family member also confirmed, how stupid and demented do you have to be in your mind to think someone's spreading hate? So I'm going to kill him. I'm going to do the right thing and kill him. That's not hate. Again, whatever. See all my viewpoints that I hold, I could tell to Charlie Kirk's widow. I'd like you to go to his widow and orphans and tell him about, like, how much Jesus loves this guy. And we also need to remember that he has a soul. And the guy that the people who radicalized your husband's murder, you know, we need to not overreact. Go do that. And again, I'm sure that lady, she seemed super nice. Charlie. They were like real, real Christians. But you're the same people that don't think Charlie Kirk should have been on that campus at all. Do you really have to go to those colleges and say that, knowing there's people that it bothers? If some of you were in charge of Christianity, it would be wiped out in about three years worldwide. Apparently for some people, it's not just enough to suck at being a Christian personally. They have to spread their views that caused their Christianity to suck to the masses via social media. Keep going.

[News Reporter]

Robinson had a gray Dodge Challenger. Investigators identified an individual as the roommate of Robinson Investigators interviewed that roommate who stated that his roommate, referring to Robinson made a joke on Discord. Investigators asked if he would show them the messages on Discord. He opened it and showed several messages to investigators and allowed investigators so Discord's.

[Pastor Dallas]

Not like tapped by the FBI. Apparently I was anybody else besides me under the impression that the government had like everything we sent. But then this investigation kind of lets you know it's a free for all you know, which is kind of comforting. Hey, would you mind showing us the message? Our our machines are all broke. Keep going.

[News Reporter]

Photos of the screen as each message was shown by Robinson's roommate. These photos consisted of various messages including content of messages between the phone contact named Tyler with an emoji icon and Robinson's roommate's device. The content of these messages included messages affiliated with the contact Tyler stating a need to retrieve a rifle from a drop point, leaving the rifle in a bush. Messages related to a to visually watching the area where a rifle was left.

[Pastor Dallas]

Sean Campbell, who I like, he's from our church in Pittsburgh, he said there's not enough government employees to track every social media message but I guess that's probably where Palantir's coming in that it now they're going to do it like algorithm wise where it'll just like by AI have everything you've written and said just guessing. Keep going.

[News Reporter]

A message referring to having left the rifle wrapped in a towel. The messages also refer to engraving bullets and a mention of a scope and the rifle being unique messages from the contacts.

[Pastor Dallas]

This sound mind guy that has said for the last 30 minutes that he's leaving the chat but still still is here. What's Matthew 5:22 that he quoted. But I say to you that everyone who's angry with his brother will be liable to judgment. Whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council. So knowing that the same Holy Spirit wrote both things. Was the Holy Spirit out of alignment with the scripture when through Paul he cursed the sorcerer. Try to do some scriptural interpretation, my friend. Was Jesus out of a line when he he. He was angry? The Bible says Jesus was angry with the indignant with the leader of the synagogue and said you hypocrite. He called the Pharisees whitewashed tombs full of dead man's bones. You cross land and sea to make one convert and then turn them into twice the son of hell you are. Now again you can, you can also go way out of bounds taking these scriptures and just being a continually angry Christian who uses these scriptures to yell at everybody and I don't. But these a domestic terror group that wants you dead. You know, keep sticking up for the people that want to kill you. Let me know how it goes. Keep going.

[News Reporter]

Tyler also mentioned that he had changed outfits. I know there's been speculation as well as to the. The writing on those casings, those, those, those bullet casings. And I believe we have that as well. And I will share that with you. Now.

[Pastor Dallas]

You're not blocked, Chris.

[News Reporter]

So the area north of Campus Drive Road where the suspect crossed over, you saw some of that in the video that we released last night. Consists of a grassy area with trees on the edge of the UVU campus. Investigators discovered a bolt action rifle wrapped in a dark colored towel. The rifle was determined to be a Mauser Model 98. 3006 caliber. 3006 caliber bolt action rifle. The rifle had a scope mounted on top of it. Investigators noted inscriptions that had been engraved on casings found with the rifle. Inscriptions on a fired casing read notices, bulges, capital O, W, O.

[Pastor Dallas]

Absolutely.

[News Reporter]

Question mark. Inscriptions on the three unfired casings read hay fascist. Exclamation point, catch, exclamation point. Up arrow, symbol, right arrow and symbol and three down arrow symbols. A second unfired casing read oh bella chow, bella chow, bella chow, chow chow. And a third unfired casing, red. If you read this, you are gay. Lmao.

[Pastor Dallas]

Sounds like one of my friends wrote that.

[News Reporter]

We are indebted to law enforcement across the state who's worked seamlessly together. Local law enforcement, state law enforcement, and our federal partners with the. With the Federal Bureau of Investigation. We're grateful for everyone who worked together in, in such a short amount of time.

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[Pastor Dallas]

To Mary Beth, this does not mean that he did it. It could be planted. I don't know a 22 year old who can shoot like this. It's not a difficult shot. Can somebody let Mary Beth know? Again, there's no point in trying to convince some people because there's still people that believe the earth's flat after they've. All the government satellites are just showing you that. Then they launched private satellites that showed it. Then one guy that was head of the flat earth. Thanks for watching.

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Keep going. It is pretty wild that he was able to evade the police for more than 24 hours. I mean, not the police, like the nation. That's why I thought he was dead. And I'm really glad they got him alive. I hope. I hope they get every ounce of information out of him. I'm fully aware that you can overreact. You know, I'm not for, like. I think he's an antifa. All right, lock him up. But people, people that have messages on their phone and are a part of message boards arranging for assassinations should be gone. You're welcome. Friends call me Kate. Thank you, Revival today, family in Christ, for giving me a place to grieve and process. No Faith said. What about the private plane? There was a plane that took off from the airport nearby. I mean, skip it because it's just going to tell about Charlie Kirk. Got anything else you can say? No. Amanda said. Any updates on the guy in the crowd going viral? That was cheering right after. Yeah, he was a liberal that was there. Yeah, it's. I saw this. They did the. You know, that's the channel I'm on, Real America's Voice. That's where Charlie Kirk. We were. We were television station mates. Even though we never, never had any interaction on tv. I met him in Orlando. We were staying at the same hotel and we bumped into each other. That was it. So they did the show and left his chair empty. And they're all trying not to cry. Anything else now that. That I don't not believe. Somebody said, why was that old guy saying he did it and acting like a decoy which allowed the shooter to get away? I believe that guy could have been in on it. There are old guys, old pedophiles in Antifa that hang out with those guys. He did threaten suicide. Tyler Robinson, accused of killing Charlie, told his father he'd rather kill himself than surrender. When confronted about the shooting, his father recognized him from photos released by the police and pressed him. Robinson admitted pulling the trigger, but initially refused to turn himself in. The father persuaded him to meet with their youth minister, who is also a U.S. marshal, fugitive task force officer and youth pastors on the side. I gotta catch a guy from the Matamorous cartel and then I'm in charge of who can drink the most Diet Cokes without throwing up. I gotta catch the guy that's the head of the Matamorous cartel and then I'm in charge of a game of Chubby bunny the father persuaded to meet with their youth pastor who's also a U.S. marshal. I would just pick one. The U.S. marshall doesn't pay that well. You need to pick up an extra like 40 bucks a week. And the FBI took him into custody soon after that. I'm glad they talked him out of killing himself. What was the other one they had up? Yeah, another trans, but that this guy wasn't in antifa or anything. He was. See, you got to take the group out. No different than Al Qaeda or anything. How many US citizens of Al Qaeda shot in America? How many has the Houthi rebels killed in America? So then why are we going after people on foreign soil that are responsible for less deaths? Of course, obviously, if you count fentanyl in the mix. I'm not saying to leave them alone. I'm just saying why does this group get a pass? That's right. Somebody provided them with the rifle. That's why it's so good they got him alive. And it's so good we see when Trump was shot, we didn't get any answers. It was still the old FBI that wanted Trump dead involved, but now it's going to be a different story. Bothers me that we're wearing the same color scheme today, me and the shooter. I might have to submit myself to a psychological evaluation. At least both my eyes are looking generally in the same direction, so I'm in the clear. Father, thanks for being with us. Thank you for helping those that are grieving. I do pray for Mrs. Kirk, their children. I pray, Lord, from the depth of my heart that you would put your hand on them and be with them and be what your word says, a very present help in time of trouble. And I also pray that your heavy hand of judgment would come in to every one of these groups that are on US shores that want to do harm to human beings, and their judgment would be heavy. In Jesus name, amen. If you have never received Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, I would love for you to pray this with me right now. Say this out. Heavenly Father, I admit that I've sinned. I repent. I believe in my heart you raised Jesus from the dead. I confess with my mouth, Jesus is Lord and my Savior. Right now I receive forgiveness by the blood of Jesus. I am saved. In Jesus name, amen. If you prayed that prayer, please do what it says on the bottom of the screen. Go to RevivalToday.com and click I just got saved. When you do that, I'm gonna send you my wife's New devotional book to help you live the Christian life. Good to have you on, Chris. I know you prayed with us yesterday. Welcome to the family. So do that. And then if you want to help us feed 5,000 kids in the morning in some of the poorest parts of the world. I know you think from the first part of the show I'm just some angry right wing preacher, but you know, we feed five. I do like real things. I don't like send the hungry kids overseas like an emoji bowl of soup with praying hands. We like to send actual food. I'm just. There's certain people I'm not interested in helping. Here's the ways you can give. Thank you for your giving today. You know, we had a little over $420,000 come in the mail yesterday from you people. Thank you. I hope you like what you're seeing happen from it. Revivaltoday.com you click give now. I hope I never have what some of my Christian brothers and sisters have, which is the ability to see a story like this and feel intense compassion for the murder. I don't want that. I care about the wife and kids. I care about the family. Charlie Kirk's parents still alive. Never say anything about them. I actually never listened to Charlie Kirk my whole life till and then. I've heard a ton of him the last two. I mean, I didn't know he was such an expert theologian. He's. He's better at presenting the gospel than 97 plus percent of preachers. And I'm not saying that as throwing shade at other preachers. I'm saying that as a compliment. The guy was incredible. There's a guy that confronted him about being a Christian nationalist that is not commanded anywhere in the Bible. And he schooled him Old Testament and New Testament. Broke the Greek down. The guy was a Bible scholar. Parents, what are their names and ages? I mean, you don't know if they agreed with what he believed in or not. But I mean, that's got to be. I mean, the wife and kids. Then you got parents who I'm sure are about 10 years older than me. Probably 10 to 15 years older than me. Watching the kid they raised that's a star, one of the top stars in the country. And now it's just over. I mean, again, they can't fry that guy. If they, if, if that execution of that shooter is on pay per view, I'm going to order it and make popcorn and grill out and invite friends over. Interesting shot. You know, Gavin Newsom's son loves Charlie Kirk and believes everything he believes. Gavin Newsom put out something that was like nice about Kirk, right? I bet that was because of the son. It's interesting the effect people have. Yeah, Sean, we probably will do that. It's a good idea. I really you need to be in church this weekend. I'd love to have you at one of our four tonight. I'm in Seattle tomorrow morning Saturday morning Revival Today Church Arizona Saturday night Revival Today Church Los Angeles Sunday morning. I will be with you live in Texas. If you're in Texas, get get there. Revival today Church Fort Worth, 7200 Denton Highway, Watauga, Texas and then Revival Today Church Pittsburgh, 8am and 10am you will have Pastor Dallas. I'm in Edmonton, Alberta next week. Looking forward to seeing our friends in Western Canada. Utah does have the death penalty, but it's a federal case. I don't think it would have even mattered. I think and I they're going to take him out. See you in Fort Worth. Looking forward to seeing you in all these. I'm looking forward to visiting with you, a lot of you in person and if you'd like getting an appropriate hug because I know a lot of people could use it. And if you're the killer, I would love to give you a hug too with a zip tie around your neck. See you tonight. Everybody.

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