CPAC 2026 LIVE COVERAGE 12PM HOUR, MARCH 26TH, 2026

Summary

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Real America’s Voice: CPAC 2026 LIVE COVERAGE — 12PM Hour, March 26, 2026

Episode Overview

In this action-packed CPAC 2026 live coverage from Grapevine, Texas, the Real America’s Voice (RAV) team delivers first-hand reflections from the convention floor. The hour is dominated by robust discussions on unity within the conservative movement, the state of the Republican Party, and, most notably, a headline interview and speech with former ICE Director Tom Homan. The team dissects current policy debates, border security, U.S. and global political dynamics, and issues of freedom and cultural influence, all while providing the expected high-energy RAV rapport.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Opening Reflections and Themes at CPAC 2026

Timestamps: 02:48–06:26

• The RAV panel—Terrence Bates, Ben Berkwam, David Zier, and Bo Davidson—share takeaways from CPAC:
  • “It's all about MAGA, it's all about President Trump. ... It's just fun, you come to these events, it's a family reunion.” — David Zier [03:16]
• Notable that Trump is influencing the conversation even while present at other high-level meetings.
• “What unites us is bigger than what divides us.” — Bo Davidson [05:05]
• There’s emphasis on focusing on “the mission” and not “division and distraction.” — David Zier [05:33]

2. Unity and Policy Differences Among Conservatives

Timestamps: 06:26–08:16

• Panelists urge focus on shared goals of “making America great again,” despite nuanced policy disagreements.
• The presence of diverse voices is highlighted, referencing recent gatherings like Turning Point America Fest.

3. Border Security, Immigration, and Trump Administration Achievements

Timestamps: 12:59–46:47 (Tom Homan segment)

Tom Homan’s Speech and Interview Highlights

• ICE Morale and Operations:
  • “Morale is still high because they work for a great president, greatest president of my lifetime.” — Tom Homan [15:32]
  • ICE agents are facing increased threats (up “8,000%”), leading to families being doxed and threatened.
  • “Men and women of ICE and Border Patrol make a hell of a sacrifice. But so do their families.” — Tom Homan [18:10]
• Border Security/Deportations Under Trump:
  • Claims of the “most secure border in U.S. history” [18:52], with dramatic shifts in apprehension and deportation statistics since Biden years:
    • “Over 10.5 million illegal aliens came to the border that we know of [during Biden]. … Now 12,000 to 121.” — Tom Homan [19:37–20:25]
    • “Since he’s been in the Oval Office, we're about 827,000 deportations. That beats any record under Obama.” — Tom Homan [22:10]
    • “We just hired 10,000 more deportation officers... just wait till this year.” [22:29]
    • “One of the reasons we have the most secure border … is because people are seeing what ICE is doing across the country and are saying, ‘Hell no, I don’t want to give my life savings to the criminal cartel.’” [23:45]
• Self-Deportation and Enforcement Message:
  • “We’re over 2 million self-removals. … If you’re in this country illegally, we’re going to find you, we’re going to deport you.” [23:45]
• Crime & Sanctuary Policy:
  • Homan stresses the “significant impact” ICE deportations have in reducing city crime rates:
    • “We average between 60% and 70% of those we arrest are criminals. ... That’s over half a million public safety threats kicked out of this country.” [27:31]
• Human Trafficking and Missing Children:
  • “They found right around 145,000 missing children. ... Many, too many, were victims of sex trafficking, being sold for sex, and being in forced labor. President Trump’s leadership literally saved thousands of young children’s lives.” — Tom Homan [30:20–30:38]
  • Points out flaws from previous (Biden) administration—“they weren’t vetted properly. … the addresses were never verified.” [30:20]
• Cartels and China:
  • “President Trump’s going to wipe these drug cartels off the face of the earth. ... The cartels are focusing on Asia and Europe right now because they know it's hard here.” [33:23/33:54]
• DHS Shutdown and Political Challenges:
  • Argues Democrats are working to “cripple ICE,” not just reform it, through funding battles: “Because they hate ICE so much, they're willing to punish the men and women. ... You want to talk about inhumane? What’s more inhumane than that?” [36:00]
• Minnesota/Minneapolis Operations:
  • Discussed the ICE intervention in Minnesota, working to de-escalate and cooperate with local officials, leading to “less of a sanctuary state.” Describes negotiation with state/local leadership as critical to public safety. [40:13–42:46]
• Homeland Security Secretary Mark Wayne Mullins:
  • Praise for new Secretary: “Right guy, right time, right job.... He’s digging in deep. ... Doing it for the right reasons.” [43:00]
• Personal Motivation and Sacrifice:
  • “I pray every night ... for the safety of every man and woman in ICE and Border Patrol, that they go home to their families. And I pray for the greatest president in my lifetime.” — Tom Homan [44:51]
  • “We're not going to apologize for [enforcing the law]. For the Democrats who want to keep beating up on ICE, want to shut down DHS, you’re not going to stop us.” [45:25]

Notable Quotes

• “If you choose to run over an ICE agent, you’re going to get shot, and you deserve to get shot.” — David Zier [47:38]
• “Let them do their job, and if you don’t like the job they’re doing, have Congress change it.” — David Zier [48:28]

4. International Focus: UK Politics and Radical Islam

Timestamps: 54:50–61:45

• UK journalist Andrew Doyle joins the panel to discuss Britain’s political leadership and security posture:
  • Keir Starmer criticized as “pathetic, weak, inept... the Chamberlain of our day.” — David Zier [55:28]
  • “Trump says Keir Starmer is no Winston Churchill, and that’s got to be the understatement of the millennium.... That’s an embarrassment on the world stage.” — Andrew Doyle [55:39]
  • Discussion over UK hesitation to support US military action, Starmer's approach to radical Islam, and the introduction of “Islamophobia” definitions to appease Muslim voters:
    • “He is desperate to appease certain segments of his voting base. … His government has recently attempted to introduce a new definition of Islamophobia...” — Andrew Doyle [57:48]
  • On illegal immigration in the UK: “I feel like England is gone. ... Can England be saved?” — David Zier [60:11]
  • “It’s not as simple as saying the left is to blame. … Nobody has stood up and said we need to do something about it.” — Andrew Doyle [61:06]

5. Looking Ahead: Embedded Reporting and Community Cooperation

Timestamps: 49:04–51:07

• Ben Pergwom previews an upcoming investigative mission in Florida, to compare how ICE works in cooperative versus adversarial state environments.
• “If you actually let ICE do their job, you coordinate with law enforcement, everybody is safer.... It’s better for America, it’s better for everyone.” — Ben Pergwom [49:10]

6. Closing Thoughts and Panel Reactions

Timestamps: 46:47-end

• Panelists praise Tom Homan as steadfast and unafraid.
• "He's an incredible American patriot. He's hard on the outside, but you hear it every time he speaks, he's compassionate on the inside. He cares deeply about the people of America..." — David Zier [46:59]
• “We have totally lost [limited government] ... The very people that are supposed to be securing our freedom and liberty ... they're actually obstructing and putting American citizens in danger.” — David Zier [50:16]
• Brief lighthearted moments: celebratory shoutout and birthday wishes for staffer Brandon Jarvis [51:19], and music/entertainment hour previews.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On unity:
  “What unites us is bigger than what divides us.” — Bo Davidson [05:05]
• On ICE morale:
  "Morale is still high because they work for a great president, greatest president of my lifetime." — Tom Homan [15:32]
• On the scope of self-deportation:
  “Over 2 million self-removals... if you're in this country illegally, we're looking for you, we're going to find you, we're going to deport you.” — Tom Homan [23:45]
• On the child trafficking crisis:
  “They found right around 145,000 missing children…. President Trump’s leadership literally saved thousands of young children’s lives. And we’re not done.” — Tom Homan [30:36]
• On new DHS Secretary:
  “Right guy, right time, right job. ... He talks every day, several times a day. ... He left the Senator job, which is a pretty sweet job, to take on the hardest job in the United States government.” — Tom Homan [43:00]
• On personal mission:
  “I pray every night ... that they go home to their families. And I pray for the greatest president in my lifetime.” — Tom Homan [44:51]
• International comparison:
  “Keir Starmer is the Chamberlain of our day. ... Peace in our time. It's pathetic.” — David Zier [55:28] “Trump says Keir Starmer is no Winston Churchill—that’s the understatement of the millennium.” — Andrew Doyle [55:39]
• On the current political struggle:
  “If you don't like it, change the damn law because you ruined it. ... The saddest thing I've ever done is hand the folded flag to a child or a spouse or a fallen Border Patrol [agent]. ... Please pray with me that every man and woman at ICE ... go home to their families every day.” — Tom Homan [45:25/46:21]

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Important Segments (with Timestamps)

• Opening takeaways from CPAC: [02:48–06:26]
• Call for conservative unity: [05:05–06:26]
• Tom Homan’s full interview (borders, ICE, child trafficking): [12:59–46:47]
• ICE enforcement and policy debates: [22:10–24:40]
• Discussion on UK, Starmer, and international affairs: [54:50–61:45]
• Panel reflections and preview of upcoming embedded reporting: [46:47–51:07]

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Flow and Tone

The episode conveys a palpable sense of camaraderie and shared mission, pairing lighthearted banter with urgent, at times dire, policy discussions. The tone is unapologetically pro-Trump, with emphatic endorsements of law enforcement and critiques of both Democratic politicians and non-cooperative Republican or allied governments abroad. The RAV team and guests maintain energetic delivery, blending policy with cultural and entertainment commentary, and frequently address the audience directly.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Show

This episode offers an unfiltered window into the heart of the current conservative movement as seen through Real America’s Voice’s lens. It combines unique insight into operational realities for federal agents on the border, reflections on the necessity of unity on the right, and frank, often hard-hitting opinions on political leadership and policy both in the U.S. and abroad. Tom Homan’s unvarnished commentary on security and immigration carries the segment, while international perspectives and cultural festivities round out the hour.

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Transcript

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America CPAC USA 2026 is underway in the Lone Star State and real America's voice is bringing you wall to wall. Covered live shows from the convention floor, exclusive interviews, powerful panels, music, entertainment and more. Featuring Dr. Gina Louden, Jack Vasobic plus Steve Bannon and others. Presented by Birch Gold Group and Patriot Mobile, CPAC USA 2026 starts right now.

[Terrence Bates]

Welcome back to SeaPac 26 live in Dallas, Texas. We're actually in Grapevine, Texas, but who needs all those details? Terrence Bates, we have got the All Star crew with us here from rav. Gentlemen, good. Yes, you. You are definitely the All Star. Everybody knows you. Gentlemen, good afternoon. Good to see all of you. It's already been a very busy day. Your takeaway so far, Ben, we'll start with you and we'll go around the horn. Your takeaways from CPAC 2026 so far.

[David Zier]

Well, you know, it's an interesting vibe walking around, watching, watching the speakers, but to me, it's, it's all about maggots, all about President Trump. And today, the big takeaway was the press conference this morning with President Trump wasn't even at cpac. What was happening there? What's happening? It's really what's happening outside of cpac. But here for us, it's just fun. I mean, you come to these events, it's a family reunion. You meet so many great people. We've got the one and only Tom Holman. We're going to be going to him in just a second. He's on stage. We want to play that entire interview, his entire speech. So much going on, so many great people out here. But it's really about the RAB audience, the people of America. Hashtag, we the people.

[Terrence Bates]

Yeah, David, today, and you kind of mentioned it, there was the president held his big cabinet meeting, but the reality is the cabinet meeting is here.

[Tom Homan]

Yeah.

[Terrence Bates]

Those are the policymakers there, but the people pushing those policies are here at cpac.

[Ben Pergwom]

I think Trump has a connection with the real American voices who watch our network here and doing interviews all day. People coming up to us all day long at CPAC 2026. They watch all of our shows. They turn on RAV 24 7. And we did great interviews. I did a ton of interviews today with the guys. You know, one guy writes a book about Chinese organ harvesting, proven harvesting, Bailun Gong members, Uyghurs, all the stuff. And then we have people talking about the Shen Yun Ballet, the dance company persecuted by the chicom, maybe in cahoots with the New York Times running cover for the chicom. Just incredible stuff. People sharing so many stories. We might have somebody coming on who represents parts of Yugoslavia, talking about the Muslims in Yugoslavia and what's going on there. We have a veterans guy coming on who helps veterans with treatments because the psychotropic drugs are on the suicide rate. 18, 20 guys a day killing themselves. And then we've got some more great people. So it's a wonderful day.

[Bo Davidson]

And, Terrence, I would just say thematically, and I think it's represented here, but my hope for it, too, is that what unites us is bigger than what divides us. Because, you know, Ben and I were at Turning Point America Fest in December, and I'm sure, by design, you have a lot of diverse voices in there. You have Tucker Carlson, that's there. You have Ben Shapiro, you have Megyn Kelly. There are a lot of diverse voices. And people talk about the fractures between the party right now. But ultimately, we're on the same team. We cannot shoot ourselves in the foot by dividing ourselves internally.

[David Zier]

That's the key. All of this, it's the same thing we were talking about yesterday. We have to avoid division and distraction, stay focused on the mission. Every time I see this, I saw it in Trump's first term, the enemy comes in and divides, and then they don't even have to do anything. We end up. If we allow it, we end up doing it to ourselves. We've got to stay focused. If you see people dividing, try to get with them and say, hey, what do we agree on? Focus on what we agree on. Focus on the things that we agree on, and focus on our enemy. The enemy is not us. The enemy is not in this room. And that's the key. You know, it's interesting. I came into this CPAC thinking, how's it going to be? It's actually more peaceful. I don't know if that's a. It's. It's. It's. Like I said, it's got a slightly weird vibe in the sense that I was expecting more fireworks, and it's actually a lot calmer than I expected it to be, which is a great thing. We need that. But my prayer is to. Beau's point is that we focus on unity, not necessarily of message, but of purpose.

[Terrence Bates]

That's, I think, the key. And I'd like you to kind of sound off about that, David, because the nuances in terms of difference in policy or point of view, it's a nuanced policy idea, but the larger goal of truly making America great again, keeping America first, I think that's pretty consistent, really, across policy ideals.

[Ben Pergwom]

There's a lot of questions about that.

[Tom Homan]

Right.

[Ben Pergwom]

Just like when illegals were coming in, 50,000 veterans sleeping on the streets, thousands of Americans a year getting killed. By the way, you know, we spoke to Sheriff earlier says probably thousands of lives have been saved with the border closed, Ben, you know, and there is unity in that mission. But there's a discussion going on within MAGA people and a lot of with the social media figures as well. And it's getting hot and heavy and people, you know, they're saying we need to focus on home. I think Trump has been able to balance that and do that. I do believe the situation in Iran will stabilize. And he now he's saying, I think today he hinted at just going against the alliance, not having the alliance involved at all, because we may not need them. But, you know, there's at least there's conversation and dialogue on this side of the fence, because I do not see that. Just like we talked about earlier, the White House protest. I don't even know what they're protesting in Iran against American action there. So I think there's, you know, well, Dems are always lockstep. There is diverse conversation.

[Bo Davidson]

And Terrence, I'll tell you this. I was in the market just getting a bite to eat, and a guy came up to me. You know, they recognize us, you know, from Real America's voice, and they want to express their opinion. This guy was from California and he said, hey, man, we love what you're doing. He goes, I just want to tell you, you know, I'm from California. We, we're all on the same team. We're all maga. We want President Trump to finish the job in Iran. A wounded animal is most dangerous. He was all about, don't pull out, don't pull back, go full throttle, cut this animal off at the head. So it's interesting to see how people feel about that particular situation. Wanting him to finish the job, not to back off the gas.

[Terrence Bates]

You lost me. After I was at the market, I got something to eat. I didn't hear anything else after that, but I appreciate that. Ben, we're going to toss to momentarily Tom Holman. He of course, spoke here. I'm going to give you the honors if you don't mind, because you know the guy, you have followed him. You guys have been in some pretty hot spots together. We'll do that momentarily. But first I want to talk a

[Martha Stewart]

little bit real quick.

[David Zier]

Before that, I want to give a shout out. We got some folks out here in the audience get waving their, waving their hand, saying hi. I just want to give a huge shout out to the folks that came out to cpac, the RAV audience, the RAV faithful. God bless you guys. I'm not ignoring you. I'm waving at you. But God bless you guys. Thank you for being out. Amy Kramer, Love you. God bless you.

[Terrence Bates]

And I, I really am upset with you because you just showed how blind I am at this age. I can't see past these lights. I can barely see the teleprompter right there, much less see past those lights. Bo, before we go to the Tom Holman interview, I would love for you to go and throw it out. There you go. See, I told you everywhere. I would like you to talk a little bit about our RAFT programming because it's not just about right now. We literally going to be on the air here at RAV all night long pretty much. And we're going to have some entertainment here. You're going to be doing that give our folks a little tease about what they can expect as we continue our program.

[Bo Davidson]

Absolutely. At 6pm tonight, Central Time. That's local to Dallas, 7pm for you that are on the east coast, which most of us in West Palm certainly are, when we're doing our programming, we're going to have an entertainment hour. What's very cool about this is nobody else is doing this. The seat back stage usually ends about sometime between 5 and 6 o'.

[David Zier]

Clock.

[Bo Davidson]

We're bringing you entertainment. This is part of Real America's music. So you're going to see Rob Schneider, the comedian that you know from SNL from all of David Zier's favorite movies. Of course you're going to have Deepak, who's a singer. We're going to have Natasha Owens. You've been seeing a lot of her music. The Boss Trump won and you know it. Music Hour of Music of Rob Schneider of Alex Stein is going to be doing some stand up comedy as well. I'm going to be him seeing it, kind of hosting it. So Terrence, bottom line is this is not just about news and the conservative movement and maga. Yes, it is that. But it's also entertainment and what we're doing to the culture war, which you are taking to the culture war right now with this sideways rap hat on.

[Andrew Doyle]

Terry.

[Terrence Bates]

Right. Like I'm going to be. You got a big head, brother. You have.

[Tom Homan]

There you go.

[Terrence Bates]

So I guess I should feel feel kind of bad. Apparently I'm not thinking so well. Oh, wow. All right, guys. Yeah.

[David Zier]

Speaking of thinking, hold on for one second.

[Terrence Bates]

I got to read this and then we'll do the. I know exactly where you're going. We are thinking here in the same wavelength. All right, folks, here at Real America's Voice at CPAC 2026. We of course remember what 1776 truly means. It was the year that America stood up to the British crown and declared that liberty wasn't negotiable. It was God given. That same spirit is alive and well in this room today. And now you can carry it with you with The American made 20 ounce 1776 sure tumbler. It's laser engraved right here in the USA. It's double wall insulated to keep your drink cold for 24 hours or hot for about eight hours. And it's built tough, just like the patriots gathered here who defend our freedoms, including our second amendment rights. For a limited time only, you can grab this bold statement piece for just $10. It's 75% off and it ships straight from Florida to your door. So don't wait. Supplies are limited. Head over to 1776 tumblr.com right now and show the world that you are 1776% sure about freedom at 1776 tumblr.com all right. Sir, would you do the honors?

[David Zier]

Math doesn't math just by the way? Over 100%, but anyways, I agree. I digress.

[Terrence Bates]

I write papers. I do not do math.

[Ben Pergwom]

110.

[David Zier]

God bless America. I switched my hats for this one. We want to give you all, all of Tom Holman's speech. The one and only Tom Holman. By the way, while you're watching this, make sure from now until election day, the midterms keep spreading the word. God bless ice. Here's the one and only Tom Holman

[Ben Berkwam]

with White House borders are the honorable Tom Homan and CPAC senior fellow Mercedes Viana Schlab. Okay, wow, you all are rowdy out there. How's it going so far? Amazing. Well, I get. Okay. Tom, I think they love you here.

[Tom Homan]

I love Tom Holman. How about a God bless President Donald J. Trump. Thank you, Trump. Thank you, Trump. Thank you, Trump.

[Terrence Bates]

Thank you, Trump.

[Tom Homan]

Thank you, Trump. Thank you.

[Ben Berkwam]

Okay, all right, let's get going now because we have a lot to talk about. Tom, it's really an honor to be with you.

[Tom Homan]

Really, I'm happy to be here and

[Ben Berkwam]

from the bottom of my heart, like, we appreciate you so much for all you're doing for President Trump and our country. So let's get right to it.

[Tom Homan]

Just Marco Rubio has nothing on me. I got more jobs than he does.

[Ben Berkwam]

I was gonna say, how many jobs do you have right now? Because apparently now you're handling the airport.

[Tom Homan]

Look, the brave men and women of ICE are stepping up to help secure the airports with the people that left tsa, the people that are calling in because they gotta go get a job to feed their families, we gotta fill those gaps because the security airport's important. We got a heightened threat posture right now. We need to make sure those airports are secure. We need to help Americans get through those lines. And if we see any illegal activity in the airports, we're going to make arrests. Amen.

[Ben Berkwam]

Let me, but I got to ask you, there's this guy, his name is. Wait, Hakeem Jeffries. Do you all know who he is?

[David Zier]

Okay.

[Ben Berkwam]

And he said that these ICE agents, that they're gonna shoot people in the airport. I mean, are you serious? Is this seriously like this is. This is an actual leader of the Democrat party?

[Tom Homan]

Yeah, he's a joke. But he's. Look, and I say that because of this reason. He's the same one that wants masks taken off, right? Right. But he continues to terrorize the public, given a false sense of ICE are Nazis, secret police, they're racist. So because of his rhetoric, threats are up 8,000%. That's why they're wearing a mask. So if you want the mask off, stop the hateful rhetoric and slice office. That increases the threat. So you know, right now they're demanding mask off. That's a non starter. We're not even talking about it. Because until you stop your language, we're not taking a mask off.

[Ben Berkwam]

You are talking to ICE agents every single day. What's their morale? How are they feeling? I mean, they're getting assaulted, they've been attacked, you know, they're going after their families. I mean, how is it right now to be an ICE agent in America?

[Tom Homan]

The morale is still high because they work for a great president, greatest president my lifetime.

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[Martha Stewart]

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[Tom Homan]

Do the job they want to do. I mean, for four years they couldn't enforce immigration law. Same with the men and women of the Border Patrol, who I love. They weren't able to enforce the law. They wanted to enforce the law, right? So now they're able to uphold the old faith. They're enforcing immigration law. Look, they're overworked. Overworked tremendously. But you know what? Every day they get up and put that Kevlar vest on. Come to work to protect America. I love each, every one of them. And I promise the men and women, the Border Patrol and ice. I came back twice from retirement. My wife's still pissed off. But I tell you what, I will have their backs to the day I die. Because the finest 1% this country has.

[Ben Berkwam]

And I want to say, can we give literally a round of applause to Mrs. Homan and the family who has supported Tom Homan in allowing him and saying, yes, go back and serve this great country and this great president.

[Tom Homan]

And to every spouse and child of Iceland. Look, threats are up 8,000%. Wives, spouses and children are being doxed. They're being followed to school. Death threats against their spouses and children are a real thing. So men and women of ICE and BORG make a hell of a sacrifice. But so don't their families do a shout out to all the families of ICE and Borg Patrol. God bless you.

[Ben Berkwam]

So President Trump has so many achievements. I mean, so many achievements. What he's been able to do in one year is truly remarkable. And you're in that room with him. You're in the Oval Office. You're advising him every single day. What Is he telling you

[Tom Homan]

he's happier than hell? I mean, look, bottom line is, when he called me to come back the second time, he says, I want you to do three things. I want you to secure the border. I want you to run a mass deportation operation. I want you to find these missing children. Right? Right. Today we had the most secure border in the history of this nation. Today,

[Ben Berkwam]

let's break that down further before we go into the other two here. So on the securing the border, it is remarkable. Okay, Compare Biden years. I'm not hearing a boo when I say Joe Biden, people. Come on. We do audience participants. Face it here. Joe Biden years. When it comes to the border, who came through that border? And now, under President Donald Trump, what has happened?

[Tom Homan]

Well, over 10.5 million illegal aliens came to the border that we know of.

[Ben Berkwam]

Yeah.

[Tom Homan]

We don't know the unknown gotaways, but we also have 2.1 million known gotaways captured on video, drone traffic or sensor traffic. Why did 2.1 million people pay more to the cartels to get away? Why didn't they pay less? Turn themselves into border patrol, get released in 24 hours, get a free airline ticket to the city of your choice, get a free hotel room, get three meals a day, get free medical care. Why did 2.1 million people pay more not to take advantage of that giveaway program? That's just scared the hell out of all of you because it scares the hell out of me. Yeah, well, thank God we got President Trump in the Oval Office because we're removing thousands of these national security threats for the health of the FBI and the intelligence community. But we got a lot more to find. And you've got Joe Biden 12, 13,000 a day. You know, that was yesterday.

[Ben Berkwam]

What was it?

[Tom Homan]

121. And now one is released. Wow. Now 12,000 to 121.

[Ben Berkwam]

And that is just in one day.

[Tom Homan]

One day.

[Ben Berkwam]

When you were talking about a month, how much would have been under Joe Biden in a month?

[Tom Homan]

Oh, it was 180,000. I mean, you look, they hit almost 2 million people come to the board in just one year. Look, what happened on the border was the biggest national security failure I've ever seen in the US Government. And people need to be held accountable. We can't forget what they did to this country. We need to hold people accountable.

[Ben Berkwam]

And we're in this great state of Texas. It's so remarkable. I mean, talk about they're on the front line and they're actually working with the federal Government to make sure that we can secure our border. Talk about that relationship with the state.

[Tom Homan]

Look, I have a close relationship with Governor Abbott. Like him or love him, he, under the Biden administration, stood up and secured the Texas board as best he could. He. Look, everybody says, well, you got Texas dps and you got the National Guard doing something not their job. Let me tell you what Governor Abbott did by every illegal alien they arrested. Les Fentanyl got in this country. Kill Americans. No, Inspector. Terrorists got through because everybody was vetted properly. Unlike the last. You know, Biden administration said they vetted everybody. No, they didn't. They didn't properly vet them. Governor Abbott did. The dps, The Texas dps, The Texas National Guard. God bless you. America loves you because you set the example for the entire nation.

[Ben Berkwam]

And so moving into self on this deportation, you were in charge. As the president said, okay, Tom, I need you to implement this mass deportation program. Give us an update on that.

[Tom Homan]

I looked at numbers more, and since he'd been in the Oval office, we're about 827,000 deportations. And that beats any record under Obama we had. I actually got an award from President Obama for record deportations. They forgot about that. Anyways, the record was 409,000.

[Ben Berkwam]

Right.

[Tom Homan]

We beat that. We almost doubled it. And you know, we're going to continue. We just hired 10,000 more deportation officers. A few thousand more to come. Well, if you think numbers are good last year, wait till this year. We got a lot more resources on the streets. Going to have a lot more resources on the street. Which brings us to another issue. I see there's a lot of language out there that President Trump's backing off on mass deportation. No, he's not. Look, people are saying, I'm not serious about deportations. I've read this lately. I deported. I've overseen more deportations than any man since the Eisenhower administration. Tom Holman is now weak deportation, as a matter of fact. My chief of staff, who you met, she came up to me. She looked at the Eisenhower number. Your number's actually better. So look, President Trump's serious about it. He's going to do it in a smart way. Look, we got sanctuary cities putting a roadblock. You got, Congress wants to abolish ice. It's less efficient than it could be. But I talked to Todd Blanche an hour ago. We're suing the hell out of sanctuary cities. We'll get the numbers we need.

[Ben Berkwam]

And there's a phenomenon also happening with self deportation. So they. We also have that opportunity of People saying, okay, you're going to get paid a certain amount of money and we can get, facilitate and get you out of the country. How effective has that program been?

[Tom Homan]

It's been real good and the numbers there are high. But the ones who are leaving on their own and CBP has the ability to track when they, when they, when they log in down on the border, look, we're over, we're over 2 million self removals. And the reason that is because they know ICE is out there. There's no free zone anymore. You enter this country illegally, if you're in this country legally, we're looking for you, we're going to find you, we're going to deport you. And that message, ICE activities. People want to attack ice. One of the reasons we have the most secure border in the history of this nation is because of the great work of the border Patrol and President Trump's leadership. But it's because people are seeing what ICE is doing across the country and they're saying, hell no, I don't want to give my life savings to the criminal cartel cartel to get the border and not be released. And if I happen to get by the border patrol, there's no free zone anymore. ISIS looking for it. Under Biden administration, he told ice, you can't arrest an illegal alien unless he's convicted of a serious offense. President Trump says get all support for

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[Tom Homan]

And that's what we're doing.

[Ben Berkwam]

Got them all. And, and I think one of the effects of securing the border, one of the effects of having ICE on the streets is making our cities more safe. There's, there's no question we're seeing murder rates going down in these cities. I mean, what's your sense and what ICE has been able to do to identify these gang members, these illegal aliens who are criminals in our country that we've seen these tragic stories of women being raped, young women being killed. Tell us about that. How? What's the impact in these cities in our communities, knowing that ICE has taken out a lot of these illegal aliens who are criminals?

[Tom Homan]

Well, it's a significant, like, if you look at, let's just say 825,000, we average between 60 and 70% of those we arrest are criminals. You're talking over half a million public safety threats that we kicked out of this country. That's going to have a significant impact. And that's why we say we'll prioritize it. And I want the folks to know just because we say we're prioritizing the public safety threats and national security threats doesn't mean we're not looking for everybody else. And that's why I said right now, the number is about 62% criminal. The other 38% are non criminals. We're going to enforce an immigration law apology. But if you got, if you got a child rapist here in an illegal alien here, you're going to get this guy first. But you're not Going to forget about this guy. You're going to get him, too. But it's just a matter of who you get first. But I want to be clear. The instructions to ice some forced immigration law. You find an illegal alien, you're going to arrest him. If he's not a criminal, I don't care. You're going to arrest him. When we find him, we're going to arrest him, we're going to deport him. The,

[Ben Berkwam]

the other piece of this are the missing children. And you know, I know for us at CPAC we have the CPAC center for Combating Human Trafficking. You know, we've talked to victims, we've had the engaging with them, understanding the atrocities. And you, you hear about these rape trees in Arizona where they bring over the cartels, bring over these young women who are, are then raped in places in Arizona. They're sex trafficked, they're sexually assaulted. I mean, it's, it's truly, it's horrific to watch what has happened and what was allowed to happen under the Biden years. Tell us about this mission of finding the missing children.

[Tom Homan]

Well, like I said, the first conversation when the president called me to come back out of retirement, the second time, he gave me those three things. In all, silence. We've got the most secure border in history. I told the president, we'll do that because the men who went to border patrol know how to do it. The they did it in Trump 45. So I'll take that easy. But I'm not taking credit for secure border. I'm giving the credit to the men and women wearing that green uniform, in that blue uniform who did their job because they're allowed to do their job. So thank good, thank God for the United States Border Patrol massive deportation. I just said we got record number of arrest, deportation. We're going to do a lot more because we just hired a lot more people. The children I was asked for, the president, I said, that's the hardest one. I says, because to find people like you all in the audience, you own a car, you own a home, you're paying bills, you got a credit card. We know how to find you. Right? Right. Child, a child don't have.

[Ben Berkwam]

Please don't try to find me, Tom, just.

[Tom Homan]

But children don't have that digital footprint. I explained to the President they don't have the digital footprint. So we got to count on the digital footprint of who they were released to these unvetted sponsors. And when we started this operation, we quickly found out, number one, they weren't vetted properly. Number two, the addresses were never verified.

[Ben Berkwam]

That's right.

[Tom Homan]

So we're going to address at our supermarkets and parking lots and city parks. So the men and women of ICE and FBI have been busting their butt trying to find these kids. And they've. They found right around 145,000 missing children.

[Ben Berkwam]

And I believe.

[Tom Homan]

And that's. And let me say, son, that's 145,000 of missing children that the last administration lost and weren't even looking for. And did we rescue them out? Look, some of these children were with their parents, just hiding out, but many, too many were victims of sex trafficking, being sold for sex, and being in forced labor. President Trump's leadership literally saved thousands of young children's lives. And we're not done. I have promised the president, the president promised to the American people, we'll do everything we can to run down every lead, and when we finish the leads, we'll do it again until the last day of this administration. You got my word. We will not give up on this effort to find every one of them.

[Ben Berkwam]

And then, you know, when you go back to this, I remember hearing stories about, and when I was at the White House, that they would explain, they would literally, the kids would have the same address. So they would send, like, 200 kids to the same address to the same quote, unquote sponsor. Then they weren't doing DNA testing either. So really, I mean, what. I just can't imagine, like, I can't understand how the Biden administration just wouldn't get that. Right.

[Tom Homan]

I don't understand it either. I mean, people want to say that the Trump administration, you know, are inhumane and we're racist. Right? They call me a racist. Right? They'd say we're inhumane. Well, let's. Let's think about that. That's when. When 96 Illumigrace down 96% last, down 96% now, which means 96% less people are coming. Now, there's been studies done at 31% of women that make that journey with the cartels admitted to being raped. If 31% admitted to being raped, how many were actually raped?

[Ben Berkwam]

Right?

[Tom Homan]

So when 96% less people coming, how many children aren't dying? How many women aren't being raped? How many pounds of fentanyl isn't getting in the country to poison Americans? How many nonspec terrorists are getting in? No, the most. The most humane thing you can do is secure the border and stop the horrific activity across border crime. President Trump's policies are Saving thousands of lives every month.

[Ben Pergwom]

That's right.

[Ben Berkwam]

And. And, you know, when you look at the narco terrorists, the cartels, really, it's been a war against the cartels, which I am so glad that President Trump and the administration has made this into a priority. Tell us about that and the work that you all are doing to ensure that the drug cartels, you know, that we're basically trying to dismantle them and put the fear of God in them. I love when they blow up those boats. I don't know about you all. Every time there's one of those narco terrorist boats blown up, I'm like, yes, let's do it again.

[Tom Homan]

You know, when I spoke at the RNC just before the election, during my speech, I said something that the very next day the death threats would come rolling in from the cartels because I said my conversation with President Trump, he's going to wipe these drug cartels off the face of the earth. And the debtor's coming in and he's doing it. What President Trump's doing. I've been doing this since 1984. What President Trump's doing. He says, no.

[Martha Stewart]

Why?

[Tom Homan]

We keep playing the home game, let's play the away game. Let's get this stuff before he gets here. And he's done it. So taking all these criminal cartels. Look, cartels are going broke. They're losing money. Matter of fact, the intelligence force, I see they're concentrating on Asia. Asia and Europe right now because they know it's hard here. President Trump is not going to give up. I tell you what, it's going to get a hell of a lot better real soon.

[Ben Berkwam]

I like it. We've also got this problem. It's a big problem. They're called the Democrats and they've decided to, you know, not fund dhs. What's the deal there, like? I mean, it's been one of the longest shutdowns that we're seeing. It's now it's only a part of DHS that's not being funded. But what's the impact it's having on our immigration enforcement and on our border security?

[Tom Homan]

That's another job I got assigned to me was negotiations with Hill.

[Ben Berkwam]

We're going to start making memes of you in different. In different.

[Tom Homan]

Like everyone up there. We've had several discussions with them. What I explained to them, we have the same policies now that we had under Obama and Clinton. It's not a matter of policies, matters. The executive branch elections have consequences. Right? We're enforcing laws that you wrote. And you want to sit there, call us racists and Nazis, if we're racist Nazis for enforcing the law, what's that make you? You wrote it, you invented it.

[Ben Berkwam]

Yeah.

[Tom Homan]

Then you give us money to enforce it. So these negotiations, they say, some say they want abolish slice. Others say, no, we. The new words are reform, ice. Trust me, I'm in the room. It's not about reforming. It's about crippling ice. It's about taking away their authorities. And any border patrol agent, ICE agent watching this, I'm telling you right now, Tom, Homo will never sell out your authorities. We're going to make you sure you have your job. So, look, because they hate ICE so much, they're willing to punish the men and women. The TSA, Coast Guard, you know, cisa, all these great people trying to keep this country safe. They're punishing them because they don't like ice.

[Ben Pergwom]

Right?

[Tom Homan]

You know what? If you want to have a discussion with ice, then let's do that. Well, why you got all these people out of work that can't buy groceries for the kids? They can't pay the tuition, they can't pay the rent. That is just cruel. You want to talk about inhumane? What's more inhumane than that? Realize you're sitting up on Capitol Hill making a lot of money. You're getting paid. So you know what? Let's pass a law that if we going to shut down the government, you don't get paid until you open the government.

[Ben Berkwam]

That's right. That is right. That's right. And I just want to say we flew here from the swamp, and I really want to thank those TSA agents that were there.

[Tom Homan]

God bless them.

[Ben Berkwam]

God bless them. They're working without a salary. And really, we do have to thank them for that, because the Democrats, well, they just suck anyways. But Governor Tim Walz, I am so grateful that he is not the Vice President of the United States. I can't even tell you. Thank you, God. But you were in Minnesota. There was a big issue there, obviously, with the ICE agents. They had gone in and. Tell me where that stands. You spent a lot of time there. You were working with the state and local officials. I mean, you really, really calmed the situation down. Got it under control.

[Tom Homan]

Well, look, let me say this first. The men and women of Iceland and Borbicho did a remarkable job, considering their job is already dangerous and difficult. But when you got thousands of people getting in their face, threatening them, attacking them, they performed remarkably so. God bless those men and women, they did a great job. That's another phone call that I got early in the morning, woke me out of bed and President Trump says, what are you doing?

[Ben Berkwam]

Well, because he doesn't say sleep, right?

[Tom Homan]

Huh?

[Ben Berkwam]

He doesn't sleep?

[Tom Homan]

No. You know, I get phone calls 2:30 in the morning and I look at the clock and I'm thinking, okay, the only one's going to call me at 2:30 in the morning. POTUS. But look, he called me that morning, says what are you doing sleeping? He goes, he go I need you in Minnesota.

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[Martha Stewart]

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[Tom Homan]

I said, when he goes, today. Sorry. I says, what am I doing? He goes, de. Escalate the situation. He goes, get up there. Take control of it. So, and you know, Greg Bovino did a great job. The Border Patrol Committee, they all did a great job up there. Well, he wanted. He wanted a fresh face, you know, And I work for the President of the United States. Well, he tells me to do, I do. Now, I gave him the pros and cons of going up there. But a lot of people question, why would you meet with Governor Wallace? Why would you meet with the attorney general? Why would you meet the mayor? Because you can't fix a problem. You don't know what makes them tick, right? So look, me and Mayor Friday never agree on anything, but we got him to do the job of public safety. And his police officer started responding to our 911 calls when we got surrounded, the AG. I talked to the AG and there's a law that can't honor detainers in the county jails. And my discussion with him, I said, what's illegal? Maybe not honor detainers, we'll litigate that. But why not call us before we release them? You don't have to hold them a minute past you normally hold them, call us. Is there anything legal about that? No. And that's why now we have unprecedented precedent. Assistance from the counties, we got great assistance from, from the state police. But now we got problems at Whipple Building. State police show up, the sheriff shows up. We got law enforcement finally working on law enforcement. And because of our work up there, that state is less of a sanctuary state, which is the goal across the country. We want to arrest a bad guy in the safety and security of a jail that was safer for the community, safer for the agent, safer for the alien. And the good part about this, if I can get one guy to arrest one bad guy in the jail, rather than sending a team of six, seven people on a few jobs team look for him, one guy does the job. Now we don't send seven guys looking for him. So what did I just do? One guy's in the jail, six guys are on the street arresting more people.

[Ben Berkwam]

That's right.

[Tom Homan]

That's what we're doing. So a shout out to men and women, the Border Patrol men and women. Look, I went up, I said, I say things weren't Perfect. When you have. When you have 3,000 people in the city doing a major operation, things aren't going to be perfect. Things will happen. But God bless the men and women who put that gun and cover our vest on every day and face the hate that I never seen anything like it. But we're in a better position that's less of a sanctuary state. I'm happy that the men and women who work that state now or work the Minneapolis area, they're safer. And why? Because they can arrest a bad guy in the jail now, most of the jails, rather than have to look for them on their turf, in their streets.

[Ben Berkwam]

We've got a new Secretary of Homeland Security, Mark Wayne Mullins. Just got in this week, just got sworn in from the great state of Oklahoma. Tell me what we can expect from him.

[Tom Homan]

Right guy, right time, right job. That's good. I've talked to him already today. We talk every day, several times a day. What's great about him, first of all, he's a tough guy. But what I like about him is he recognizes from the beginning that he has career folks who've done 20, 30 years running CBP running, ICE running, CIS running. You know, he's got all these career professionals, let them run their agencies because they got the knowledge to do it. He'll give us the guidance. He'll give us the. The head cover. But he's already. He already dug in. He. He's digging in deep. And I talked to him this morning and I. And he's 100% in the game. He's doing it for the right reasons. Look, he left the senator job, which is a pretty sweet job. He. He walked away from this 10.

[Ben Berkwam]

Are you serious?

[Tom Homan]

They do nothing to take on. To take on. I'm sorry. The secretary. DHS is the most grueling, controversial, hardest job in the United States government. Because no matter what you do, people hate you.

[Ben Pergwom]

That's right.

[Tom Homan]

And I think he's like me. I don't care if people hate me. I don't give a shit what they think about me.

[Ben Berkwam]

Okay, So I gotta ask you something. You were gonna say something. Go ahead. What were you saying?

[Tom Homan]

I was gonna apologize my language. But no, I won't. It's okay.

[Ben Berkwam]

It's okay. It's you, Tom. It's fine. You're with the family. So I gotta ask you here. Besides President Trump, what else keeps you up at night,

[Tom Homan]

Boss? I didn't say that. Call me anytime.

[Ben Berkwam]

Anytime, anytime.

[Tom Homan]

I pray every night. And this is. This is the honest God truth. I Pray every night when I go to sleep, lay my head on the pillow and go to sleep, I pray for the safety of every man and woman in Iceland Border Patrol, that they go home to their families. And I pray for the greatest president in my lifetime. And I said it when I was on stage in Minneapolis. We can enforce immigration law. We're going to do it like you've never seen before. But I don't want to see anybody die. I don't see anybody die.

[Ben Berkwam]

That's right.

[Tom Homan]

Well, we're going to arrest a whole lot of people, so, you know, comply. You know, we're there for a reason. We have an oath to be took. We're going to enforce the law. We're not going to apologize for it. So, you know, for the, you know, for the Democrats who want to keep beating up on ice, want to shut down dhs, you're not going to stop us. You're not going to stop us. We're going to do the job. If you don't like it, change the damn law because you ruined it. But I have buried through my career the saddest thing I've ever done is hand the folded flag to a child or a spouse or a fallen Border Patrol. As an ICE officer, I never want to do that again. So please pray with me that every man and woman at ice, every man and woman at BOR Patrol go home to their families every day. Thank you.

[Ben Berkwam]

And to wrap up, I want you all to pray with me for Tom Homan and for his safety. That Lord cover you, that his precious blood be over you in everything that you do, and that he keeps you safe and gives you wisdom and know that you are loved. And we thank you. Tom Holman, thank you for your service. God bless you.

[Bo Davidson]

Well, you heard it right there. That was the great Tom Holman, someone that Ben Pergwom knows very, very well. Ben, we'll talk to you on this, to just get your thoughts on this. One thing that just stood out to me is I don't give up what people think about me. Yeah.

[David Zier]

No, Tom is a guy who says it like it is. He's one of the guys I have the most respect for in our. In our country, in the administration. I look up to him majorly. He's actually, yeah, I get to go out and ride with ICE because of the relationship we have. He's an incredible American patriot. He's hard on the outside, but you hear it every time he speaks. He is compassionate on the inside. He cares deeply about the people of America, the citizens of America and the people that are being victimized by the illegals that are destroying this country, and even more than that, the leftist traitors that are enabling the illegals to destroy this country. But, you know, one of the points Tom makes, because we, you and I, I think most Americans, especially maga, want every illegal deported. But he's also cognizant of what's happening in our country. And you look at what happened in Minneapolis, he doesn't want chaos in our streets. He wants it orderly. But he also understands they have a job. He finished with that saying, they have a job to do. They're gonna do their job. And our prayer is that people get out of the way. But if you choose to run over an ICE agent, you're gonna get shot, and you deserve to get shot. You, if you choose to go fight with an ISA officer and you're armed and somebody sees you pull a gun or they think they see you pull a gun, you're probably going to get shot. So the message is very simple. Let them do their job, and if you don't like the job they're doing, have Congress change it. The worst part about this whole thing is Congress is out there. These Democrat traitors are out there marching against ICE when they're the ones that actually have the power to change what ICE actually does. They know that. They don't care. It's all political.

[Bo Davidson]

Yeah. David, why haven't they changed? They've had plenty of time to do it.

[Ben Pergwom]

Well, I got to say, to Ben's point, I spent about four days on the ground in Minneapolis in those protests, and I think that Tom Holman did an amazing job when he went in there, a de Escalating the situation, getting a little bit of cooperation. We all know the real issues. They're not being, you know, held in the jails. Right. So they got to go out in the neighborhoods and look for people.

[David Zier]

Sanctuary policies invite people to die in the streets.

[Ben Pergwom]

But in a nutshell, I think he helped change the optics. They got the message out better. Who exactly they're arresting. I think Homan's doing an amazing job.

[Bo Davidson]

And, Ben, you're going to be embedding yourself, I believe in an upcoming mission in the coming weeks. Can you give us a little glimpse of what that's going to be like?

[David Zier]

Yeah, I can't say exactly where I'll be, but it'll be the state of Florida, actually, the state that has the highest number of apprehensions. And in particular, in the point of the reason we're going out there. Is to show the difference between what I've seen in Chicago and Minneapolis, in Portland, where you have government officials who are working against ICE and their mission and states like Texas, where I've ridden and Houston, Dallas, all these places in Texas and in Florida that are actually working with ICE to apprehend illegals. And it makes the community safer. It makes ice's job safer. It gets rid of the illegals and it actually protects the illegals from getting hurt. The very thing that the Democrats claim that they want to do. If you actually let ICE do their job, you coordinate with law enforcement, everybody is safer. And it's better for America. It's better for everyone. So stay tuned next week. Again, I can't tell you more details than we'll be.

[Bo Davidson]

We'll be keeping an eye out for that. And the President was just in Memphis, Tennessee, my hometown. And that's another great example of where you do have people working together. That's why that safe task force works. People like my mom that are in Memphis, Tennessee, that's in a dangerous town. But when the government works together, yeah, it's better, Ben. It just works.

[David Zier]

And that's of our government. This is the insanity of all of this. We have a government for very specific purposes. Limited government, originally designed as a limited government with, with branches from the federal down to the local, which was originally designed to have mostly local control, very few federal controls outside of securing our liberties. That was really it securing our security and our liberties. We have totally lost that to the point where the very people are supposed, that are supposed to be securing our freedom and liberty for the citizens of this country because that's who are the sovereigns of our Constitution. They're actually obstructing and putting American citizens in danger. They're doing the exact opposite of what they were created to do. It is, it's an upside down world, but it's only because we allowed it. Again, we're the sovereigns. We have the right to change it.

[Bo Davidson]

You want to put a button on that, David?

[Tom Homan]

Yeah.

[Ben Pergwom]

Well, we're using Title 10 out of the federal government, Title 32, cooperation with some state governments. It's big. And the crime rates how many thousands of lives of Trump and home and saved so far? Just last year. So yeah.

[David Zier]

Hey, by the way, I don't know if we've said this officially. Happy birthday to Brandon Jarvis, Real America's Voice News. Do me a favor and give Brandon a round of applause. Brandon Jarvis, happy birthday. Hopefully Brandon's over there. I don't see him right now.

[Andrew Doyle]

Oh, there he is.

[David Zier]

Okay, there he is. We don't sing Happy Birthday Birthday. Bo could probably sing it. It's a terrible song. Never sounds a great song. Make it sound good. Maybe he'll do that at six o'.

[Tom Homan]

Clock.

[David Zier]

That's a good point.

[Bo Davidson]

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[Tom Homan]

How old are you?

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Day six in Texas. This is real America's Voice.

[Ben Pergwom]

Welcome back to CPAC 2026. Dallas Fort Worth area here. Big crowds here, assembling, listening. Tom Holman just took the stage. We aired that for our audience here. So many issues going on, you can't keep up with the news cycle. And I'm here with the great Bo Davidson, Ben Berkwam, and we have author and journalist staff from Great Britain, Andrew Doyle with us. How are you, sir?

[Andrew Doyle]

I'm very well. Lovely to be here.

[Ben Pergwom]

It's great to have you because it's relevant, right? Keir Starmer, lukewarm. You know, Europe's always there when they need us, Right. And Trump may be rejecting carrier group.

[David Zier]

I use a different word. Pathetic.

[Terrence Bates]

Okay?

[David Zier]

Pathetic. Weak. Inept. Keir Starmer is one of the weakest. He is the Chamberlain of our day. Peace in our. In our time. It's just absolutely. It's pathetic.

[Andrew Doyle]

It's very. It's very embarrassing. And when Trump says that Keir Starmer is no Winston Churchill, that has got to be the understatement of the millennium. It's absolutely incredible. You know, he didn't want to support the US when it came to Iran. Early on, he wouldn't let American warships launch from British bases. He then reneged on that, said, okay, well, you can do it for defensive purposes. And now he's saying he's thinking about potentially sending the two aircraft carriers that he has to the Gulf. And Trump today has said, we don't want them. We don't want your aircraft carriers. In fact, in a Cabinet meeting, he described them as toys because they're a lot smaller than the American ones. Let's be honest about that. It's all about the size with, with Trump. But, I mean, that's, that's an embarrassment on the world stage. I think Keir Starmer is humiliating.

[Ben Pergwom]

The Royal Navy has projected a lot of might change the shape of the world. The Falkland Islands was amazing. But again, their lukewarm support for the US Right. It's not acceptable.

[David Zier]

They're going to Be there. What, what are they actually going to do? That's the problem.

[Andrew Doyle]

Well, I think part of the point is that the Keir Starmer's position is that we don't really need to get involved. I mean Trump has said we don't need people to participate once the war is already won and obviously that's embarrassing in of itself. But Starmer seems to be forgetting that Iran represents a genuine threat to UK interests quite directly, actually. I mean this is a regime as we know is adept at recruiting people domestically to carry out terror attacks. I mean this is something that he has to consider. And also now of course we know that Iran has nuclear, sorry, missile capabilities that are far more far reaching than we ever thought before.

[David Zier]

Not anymore.

[Andrew Doyle]

Well, well, well, they do still have significant potential capability. Well, Iran had said that their missiles could only reach, what was it they said? 1200 miles.

[Ben Pergwom]

Now 2500 is there.

[David Zier]

Now it's double lied about.

[Andrew Doyle]

Would you believe that the Iranian regime are not necessarily honest?

[David Zier]

I'm as shocked as you Islamic liar.

[Andrew Doyle]

I cannot, I don't understand what's going through.

[Bo Davidson]

Why is Keir Starmer so weak on radical Islam? What's the reasoning you think?

[Andrew Doyle]

Well, I can't be telepathic, I don't know what's going in his mind. Also he flip flops on so many things that it's very difficult to work out what his policy position is on anything at all. But what I would say is what's happening in the UK at the moment is he is the least popular Prime Minister since polling began.

[Tom Homan]

Right.

[Andrew Doyle]

So no one in his own party appreciates him. You have the rise of another left wing party called the Green Party which is snapping at its heels and in many cases is overtaking him and he is desperate to appease certain segments of his voting base. Most notably he wants to appease the Muslim vote. And the reason for that, and this is why his government has recently attempted to introduce a new definition of Islamophobia to effective to effectively lay the groundwork to codify a blasphemy law into onto

[Ben Pergwom]

this, everyone in jail. You know, I wanted to talk about that because you know, Shia Shiite state is attacking Sunni Gulf states and they're aligning against Iran and most of the Muslims in Britain. And especially with all the incredible stuff that's going on, the Birmingham rapes and all that stuff and their own no go zones and all that, but they're attacking a Sunni country. Why aren't the Muslims in England and you were, you addressed this a little earlier Lining up to defeat Iran, at least.

[Andrew Doyle]

Because what happens is when it comes to the left in the uk, everything is flattened into this narrative of oppressor versus oppressed. You'll notice that when the Iranian regime murdered over 30,000 of its own civilians for peacefully protesting, where were the left? They didn't say a damn thing about that. And they won't say anything about that because it disrupts their narrative. So they will flatten all of this. You know, let's. But let's remember that the Saudi Arabian government, the head of Saudi, is the most hawkish of all. He's the one who wants Trump to completely finish the job. This can't be just put into this intersectional hierarchy of Muslims are the most oppressed, because, of course, there are all different types of Muslims with different perspectives. Pro Iran, anti Iran.

[David Zier]

Oppressed by other Muslims, mostly.

[Andrew Doyle]

Exactly, exactly. I mean, the worst thing, the Iranian regime is no fan of Muslims, given that most of the people that it torments and tyrannizes are Muslim. Right. So this is such a simplistic narrative. And yet in London, we've had pro Iran regime marches, and I've seen them where they're holding up banners with the Ayatollah, the late Ayatollah's face, saying, choose the right side of history. That was the slogan that they used.

[Ben Pergwom]

I just wanted to add really quick. The socialists are the opposition of the mullahs and they're not supporting them in Iran.

[Andrew Doyle]

They probably don't even know.

[David Zier]

Yeah, well, they clearly. I mean, in America, they clearly don't. It's in America, it's all Trump derangement syndrome. It's. It's. Whatever Trump is for, we're against.

[Andrew Doyle]

Exactly.

[David Zier]

It changes every week depending. Anti ice. Now, it's pro Iran, pro mullets. It was, you know, pro the. The Venezuelan dictator.

[Andrew Doyle]

Yes.

[David Zier]

I have a very simple question, though. I've spent the last two summers in England and France. I. I was on the beaches of Calais and then the beaches of Normandy, watching the boats and all the illegal coming in, the invasion that you guys are experiencing. My concern is I feel like England is gone. I feel like most of Europe is gone. Can England be saved? And if so, how?

[Andrew Doyle]

The problem is that Starmer still has another few years. And of course, we've also had the problem that the immigrant wave that you've spoken about, we're talking about illegal immigrants, by the way, not people who've gone through the asylum process. That's a totally different thing. Right. The problem is that that has also been Accelerated under the Conservative government that preceded Starmer. In other words, this has come from the left and the right. So it's not as simple as saying the left is to blame. It's absolutely not true. When Boris Johnson was Prime Minister, we had an unprecedented wave of illegal migration and nobody has stood up and said we need to do something about it. That might change in the next general election, but we've got a few years to go until that happens.

[Bo Davidson]

Okay. So Andrew, is there anybody out there right now that you feel could lead England out of this mess? Correct.

[Andrew Doyle]

Well, the hopes seem, seem to be lying with a different party that we might break the two party system. That we're not going to have a Labor or Conservative government anymore. We might have a reform government. That would be a seismic event in UK politics. It would be the equivalent of neither the Democrats or the Republicans getting in in America. It's unimaginable. You know, we haven't had that for over 100 years. Maybe that'll happen. A lot of skeptics are saying reform won't be able to tackle this either. But it might be our only hope to break that two party system, to get some, someone in there who might at least make an attempt to, to prevent illegal migration from, from, from ruining everything.

[Bo Davidson]

Andrew, thank you so much for your time. Where can people go to find out more about your work and the great work that you're doing still in journalism?

[Andrew Doyle]

They could probably find me on my website, which is andrew doyle.org or look me up online. I'm all over the place.

[David Zier]

Hopefully you don't get arrested for anything you said today when you go back. So unbelievable.

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