Crack In The Wall! | UNI-PARTY FRACTURES w/ Professor Penn | EP253

Summary

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Podcast Summary: "Crack In The Wall! | UNI-PARTY FRACTURES w/ Professor Penn | EP253"

Podcast: Real America’s Voice
Host: David Penn (“Professor Penn”), with co-host Tanner
Date: November 7, 2025
Episode Theme: The fracturing of the so-called “uni-party” system in American politics, the erosion of traditional party power, and the push for greater grassroots civic engagement. The episode critiques both Republican and Democratic establishments, explores political participation, wealth inequality, and growing populist movements from both right and left.

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Overview

This episode, “Crack In The Wall,” centers on the current fractures within both the Democratic and Republican parties—what the host calls the “uni-party”—and emphasizes the urgent need for grassroots political participation to reclaim American republicanism. David Penn (Professor Penn) combines personal anecdotes, historical analogies, critical analysis of current political dynamics, and audio clips about physical fitness, societal decline, economic hardship, and election integrity. The message throughout: Establishment parties are losing touch with their bases and with the American founding ideals, and the only remedy is direct civic action.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Opening: A Fractured Political Landscape

• [00:19] Penn argues both parties are fracturing. He frames the struggle as not just political but spiritual, starting with a St. Michael’s prayer and invoking spiritual warfare in politics.
• [04:12] Discusses organizing local senate districts and the lack of effective party machinery.

  “I really think Mike is right about this… There are key people in the party who wish we had a party. Well, we don’t. And we’re gonna talk about that tonight. We don’t because we’re not effective.” — David Penn

2. Civic Engagement and Voter Apathy

• [06:23] Low voter turnout cited as a symptom of the broken system and the disconnect of parties with average people.

  • [07:28] Voter participation data: Minneapolis turnout only increased 1% from 2021 (54% to 55%).

  “If you don’t show up to play, don’t be complaining about the score because we’re not doing the work.” — David Penn

• Emphasizes self-responsibility: motivating others is hard, politics is draining, “this is volunteer politics.”

3. The Lost Vision of Public Good: Then and Now

• [09:09] - [11:36] Clip: President John F. Kennedy on physical fitness; Penn praises earlier visions linking national health to citizen vitality but argues they were still materialist.

• Criticizes modern education for separating physical, spiritual, and intellectual growth.

  “That’s a vision of the vitality of the nation inextricably linked to the vitality of every single citizen.” — David Penn ([11:36])

4. The “Medicalized” Society and Clashing Approaches

• [17:55] Clip: Bill Gates, suggesting focus should be on “improving lives” rather than purely climate emissions. Gates emphasizes poverty and disease over climate change as “the biggest problems.”

  “These are two different visions… self govern our vitality or participate in the governing of our well-being.” — David Penn ([20:26])

• Penn warns against “medicalized, technologized strategy for lessening human suffering,” fearing loss of self-governance.

5. Poverty, Public Benefits, and Social Unrest

• [22:49] - [25:43] Various viral clips highlight anxiety and threats of civil unrest over SNAP benefit and EBT cuts due to a government shutdown.

  “People without food for themselves and their children get desperate… you see people stealing and you snitch, you deserve to die… You wait and see how hungry people get.” — Protester ([23:03])

• Penn reflects: the reaction should not be blame, but a recognition that decades of policy have fostered deep inequality.

  “Republicans have missed some pieces here… When it comes down to the common good… we don’t understand that very well here in the Republican Party.” — David Penn ([25:43])

  “[The parties] are willing to fracture off their most vocal and hardworking… activists… to maintain control of that center where the money is.” — David Penn ([32:55])

6. Youth Disengagement and Populist Movements

• [33:43] Penn discusses the appeal of Nick Fuentes and other far-right, youth-led movements, noting their growing influence as the mainstream parties lose relevance.

  “Especially young men, we don’t find a place on the Democrat side, and when we look at the Republican party as it stands right now, we also don’t find ourselves a position.” — Tanner ([33:49]) “If you’re afraid to watch stuff… you’re not part of the deal.” — David Penn ([34:07])

7. On Socialism, Communism, and Historical Lessons

• [38:26] Penn and Tanner debate why communism “never works”; Penn shares personal insights on China’s one-party rule and critiques romanticizing foreign systems.

  “There’s no pensions, there’s no health care. You work or you starve to death. That’s a fact.” — David Penn ([39:21])

8. Republican Self-Critique and Party Direction

• [46:30] Questions U.S. republicanism: “Do we want to maintain ourselves as a republic? Do we want borders? Do we want to have a nation? That’s the fundamental question.”

• Reads Article 4, Section 4 of Constitution; urges participation (“You are the sovereign of your own life”).

• Blames Republicans for lack of civic involvement, leading to an oligarchy and “kleptocratic ruling class.”

  “You’re not a Republican if you don’t participate. Stop calling yourself one. Voting every other year is not Republican. That is virtue signaling.” — David Penn ([46:30])

9. Election Integrity Concerns and Mainstream Manipulation

• [61:31] Clip (Trump and others): Criticisms of mail-in ballots and electronic voting echoed as existential concerns for election integrity.

  “Mail in ballots are corrupt. … We as a Republican Party are going to do everything possible that we get rid of mail in ballots…” — Speaker ([61:31])

• Penn lambasts party leaders for resisting calls to seriously address election concerns, credits “risk” taken by Trump.

10. Critique of Party Manipulation and Media Framing

• [81:31] onwards: Analyzes internal party polling—manipulation through labels (“veteran”, “governor”, “former basketball player”), arguing this undermines authenticity and Republicanism’s anti-corruption roots.

  “Veteran, governor, and former basketball player. This is very manipulated. You want to be manipulated by these people? If that’s your goal, just stay home. All we got to do is show up and be honest.” — David Penn ([81:31])

11. Historical Analogy: Revolutionary War and Redemption

• [89:08] Penn narrates the story of Charles Lee, a complicated figure from the American Revolution, drawing parallels to today’s need for courage, grace, and open-mindedness about change and redemption.

  “Only judge against those who are absolutely unrepentant in their evil. But the process of Republicanism is a process of redemption. … It’s your actions today that matter.” — David Penn ([95:57])

12. Warnings about the Future: Unrest, Fairness, and Agency

• [102:13] Clips from angry benefit recipients and Klaus Schwab warnings about a coming “angrier world,” used to illustrate the outcomes of elite mismanagement and globalist policy.

  “We will see definitively a lot of anger already now, but probably increase by the end of the year because this crisis will be with us…” — Klaus Schwab ([103:17])

• Penn views globalist prescriptions (“worldwide communism”) as policy, not accident—underscoring need for urgent local and national organization on republican principles.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Party Fractures:

  “The narrative that the traditional politicians have been plying for decades, it’s really not working anymore because there’s all this new media and it’s just out of their control.” — David Penn ([32:55])

• On Civic Participation:

  “When you give over to doing the Lord’s work… whatever you’re carrying with you, that baggage is going to drop.” — David Penn ([30:41])

• On Youth Disenfranchisement:

  “If we lose this young generation to a radical interpretation of things that includes hate and violence… we gave birth to it. They’re our kids.” — David Penn ([34:16])

• On Establishment Politics:

  “If we are hardcore on certain key issues all the way to the right, we’re probably not going to win… If we’re not standing for any principles… what does hardcore mean?” — David Penn ([58:32])

• On Self-Responsibility:

  “We have to fix it. We? You and me. … We have to have a completely different attitude. Do you think the people that got off their ass to fight the British out of this country… were sitting around waiting? No, that was a grassroots movement.”— David Penn ([53:42])

• On Redemption and Change:

  “People do all kinds of things in their lives, for good and for bad. I really don’t care what your history is… what you do today [is what matters].” — David Penn ([95:57])

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [00:19] Opening prayer and spiritual framing of politics
• [04:12] Commentary on party dysfunction and local political organizing
• [07:28] Voter participation in Minneapolis; addressing civic apathy
• [09:09–11:36] JFK on physical fitness and critique of materialist social policy
• [17:55–20:26] Bill Gates on climate change, priorities, and technocratic solutions
• [22:49–25:43] Viral clips of EBT/SNAP recipients: economic hardship and threats of unrest
• [32:55] Party fractures; emergence of right/left populist movements
• [38:26] Discussion of communism in China (historical context and critique)
• [46:30] Constitutional republicanism and common good
• [61:31] Clip: Election integrity (mail-in ballots, voting machines), Trump’s perspective
• [81:31–87:46] Media manipulation, internal party polling, loss of authenticity
• [89:08–99:57] Revolutionary War lesson: Charles Lee and the complexity of redemption
• [102:13] Angry world: benefit recipients and World Economic Forum’s Klaus Schwab
• [106:27] The future: party realignment and the urgent need to choose republican principles
• [110:12] Closing: Call to action for organizing, personal sacrifice, and faith in the republic

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Key Takeaways

• Both major parties are experiencing internal fractures, with establishment leadership losing connection to their base and younger voters.
• There is a crisis of civic engagement and public good; low turnout and disengagement threaten republican governance.
• Populist and outsider movements (on the right and left) are gaining momentum as “uni-party” control wanes.
• Penn argues that only direct neighbor-to-neighbor organizing can restore the republic, decrying both ideological absolutism and party manipulation.
• Critiques of policy range from social welfare and wealth inequality to election integrity and globalist influences.
• The overarching message: America’s fate will be decided not by the establishment, but by individual citizens choosing to act on behalf of the common good.

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Final Quote:

“We have to get organized, join the digital army… There’s no time for entertainment right now. We just saw the financial capital of the world elect a communist. Why? The disparity between the wealth and poor is too great. That always leads to revolution… If we do it, you’ll find God is on your side.” — David Penn ([109:10])

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For listeners: This episode is a passionate, sometimes polemical call for Americans—especially Republicans—to abandon passivity and invest in local community organizing, defined less by dogma and more by principles and civic commitment.

Transcript

[Activist/Protester]

This is an iHeart podcast.

[David Penn (Host)]

Cross our hearts and hope to die.

[Narrator/Clip Speaker]

By these 50 countries differing so much in race and religion, in language and.

[Political Commentator/Guest]

Culture, it is a big idea.

[Narrator/Clip Speaker]

A new world order.

[David Penn (Host)]

Well, I know they're lying. They tricked me once, but they're not going to trick me twice. The time is now. In the name of the Father and of the Son and the Holy Ghost, Amen. Most glorious prince of the heavenly armies, St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in our battle against principalities and powers, against the rulers of this world of darkness, against the spirits of wickedness in high places. Come to the assistance of men whom God has created in his likeness and whom he has redeemed at a great price from the tyranny of the devil. Holy church venerates thee as her guardian and protector. To thee the Lord has entrusted the souls of the redeemed to be led into heaven. Pray, therefore, the God of peace to crush Satan beneath our feet that he may no longer retain men captive and do injury to the church. Offer our prayers to the Most High, that without delay they may draw his mercy down upon us. Take hold of the dragon, the old serpent which is the devil, and Satan. Bind him and cast him into the bottomless pit, that he may no longer seduce the nations. Welcome back to the Professor Penn Podcast. David Penn, your host. Glad to be with you as always. Episode number 253 coming to you on this Thursday night, the 6th of November, 7pm Central Time. The uni party is fracturing. To survive, we start out with a prayer. Good morning, Tanner.

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

Good morning.

[David Penn (Host)]

Tanner's been turning out some shorts that have been going up on TikTok.

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

Yep.

[David Penn (Host)]

And it's interesting to read the responses. Yeah. Because. And people are going to tell me right off of this show, this broadcast, that pan. You don't know what you're talking about. Marxism is an economic strategy and I'm going to tell you it's an economic cover story about materialism. It's the abrogation of faith. I believe, and I'm entitled to my street corner, that the entire enterprise of the Marxist is anti Christian. And the economic part of it is just a tactic to get there, to focus people on materialism, to focus people on one half of the story and why I'm doing these podcasts with you. It becomes clearer and clearer to me every day. We're a political action community. Tonight I'm going to organize a senate district in St. Paul, Minnesota. I was asked to go there and I'm not going to mention any names because I don't want to out anybody. I was asked to go there by the local leader of that group. And I'm thinking to myself, man, it's very complimentary and thank you, but where's the party? And then I'm reading Dustin Gragey, who's a uni partyist propagandist, and he posts up on X this morning that in an off year election, it's all about get out the vote and don't depend on your party. If you're a campaign, you gotta knock the doors yourself. And I'm thinking to myself, what are we doing here in the parties? I mean, we take a look at the Democrat Party, right? Man, they turned out, they defeated Omar Fatah.

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

They're very organized.

[David Penn (Host)]

Well, they're both sides. They're having it out over there, too.

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

Yeah, okay.

[David Penn (Host)]

Remember what Muhammad said, the knives are out on the left side of the football. They're fighting it out. Well, you know, we're still civilly discoursing over here on the right side of the football. It's civil. I can talk to any of you and I respect most of you, even the ones I do not respect, agree with politically. I think respect in civil discourse is critical inside the House. But there are some of you that are going to be irredeemable by choice. And you are not a friend of this podcast or a friend of mine, and I feel no reason to give you any quarter. But I will say on our side, we can fight like hell till the day after the primary and we're going to have Representative Weiner on soon. And Mike and I spoke at another event. I drove to three hours from here organizing, putting forth the effort that it takes to maintain the philosophy of Republicanism. And Mike said, it's to me personally. We're going to talk about it. I'm sure when he comes in next week, he's mortified that the party has devolved to the level that the endorsement process is no longer meaningful because there's going to be a primary challenger no matter what happens. And that's the fight within the party. It's politics. I really think Mike is right about this. And I've talked to other key people in the party who wish that we had a party. Well, we don't. And we're gonna talk about that tonight. We don't because we're not effective. Look at what happened this past Tuesday in this election. The Republicans got waxed. Waxed. And you know, you can say, well, it was this reason and it was that reason. Only 48% of New Yorkers voted.

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

Hey, that's crazy.

[David Penn (Host)]

Only and was a internationally significant election. Yeah.

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

All the way in Minnesota. We're talking about it. I know. Yeah.

[David Penn (Host)]

It was talked about everywhere. If you take a look at what happened in Minneapolis, we need to look up that data. In fact, you can look it up right now. While we're talking, what was the voter participation rate in Minneapolis and in Minnetonka in all these different little elections? You know, if you don't show up to play, don't be complaining about the score because we're not doing the work. Now, when I say we, I'm taking responsibility because I haven't been able to motivate most of you. Some of you. Yes. And God bless you. And I'm going to tell you right up front, this is very hard work. Most of the time, it's draining. You deal with a lot of people. You act like you like them. They're not that likable. A lot of people show up and say they're going to do something and they don't do anything. A lot of people show up and you tell them what to do, they do something different. Because, hey, this is not a military organization. This is volunteer politics. Yes, sir.

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

All right, so I got the number. It says it's 55%. It's an unofficial result right now, but according to CBS News, if we want to trust that, it says that it was 55% of registered voters. This is compared to 2021, where it was only 54. So a little bit of growth.

[David Penn (Host)]

What was the growth? 1%.

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

1%.

[David Penn (Host)]

Wow.

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

Wow.

[David Penn (Host)]

You know, we're only voting for the future of our city, and 45% of the people don't vote now, okay? There's going to be all kinds of. Who are those people? I don't really care who they are. I'd like them to be involved in civic life. I like them to feel that the government and their fellow citizens and care enough about them and our shared prosperity that they actually want to participate. And I'm going to tell you, if you just happen to be tuning in, you're a leftist and you're still here after that prayer, which would be cool. Maybe they're just looking at me like a lab rat.

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

Well, welcome to the party, guys.

[David Penn (Host)]

Right?

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

You're welcome.

[David Penn (Host)]

I want you guys to go and vote and participate in your party and knock doors and convert people. I want the whole society engaged in determining the future of this country. Because if you got eyes to see and ears to hear, you know, all the chips are up. On that bar. Let's just play two clips which are going to show you and me, because I think it's quite telling where we were when I was a young kid in school, because this reflects my youth and where we are today. Let's play number one.

[Political Commentator/Guest]

President John F. Kennedy has a personal message for all of us on this important subject.

[Narrator/Clip Speaker]

I welcome this opportunity to speak to the people of America about a subject which I believe to be most important, and that is the subject of physical fitness. And I speak not only as President of the United States, but also as a parent of two children who I hope will grow up with those qualities of vigor and energy which we identify with the best of America. This should be a matter of concern to us all. A country is as strong, really as its citizens, and I think that mental and physical health, mental and physical vigor go hand in hand. I hope that we will not find a day in the United States when all of us are spectators, except for a few who are out on the field. I hope all Americans will be on the field, that they will concern themselves with the education of their children, with the physical development of their children, with the participation in the vigorous life, and then also, as their children get older, inculcate into them a desire to maintain that vigor through their normal life. Our citizens are living longer, and we want them to participate fully in that longer life. But they can only do so if they give some of their time and some of their effort to maintaining that vitality. This is a subject which should be of interest to us all. And I hope when we have seen the astonishing results which we have seen from our work in a few schools across the country where we've been able, in the short space of two, two and three months, to change the physical habits and strength of our children, that this will spread to every school district in the United States, that all of us will participate in the life around us, and in so doing will be better citizens and happier ones. This is a challenge for us all, children, boys and girls, college students, mothers and fathers, and all of us, I think, should welcome it. I hope all of you will join in a great national effort to build a strong and better America through physical effort and through the contributions we can make by the drive and force we bring to our daily lives.

[David Penn (Host)]

Thank you, Tanner. So that's a vision of the vitality of the nation is inextricably linked to the vitality of every single citizen. And I'm going to tell you from my own personal journey that's very materialistic, that kind of exercise. That leaves out a lot of the potential growth that a human being could have through physical training. Because we break our world into mind, body and spirit. But there's just really one unity. And the way we teach our children to exercise here in the United States of America, even going back to the 1960s, because I actually was involved in that, it was a program was called the Presidential Fitness, Physical fitness.

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

Was that like a program, a part of the whole schools?

[David Penn (Host)]

Yeah, everybody participated, baby.

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

Yeah.

[David Penn (Host)]

I mean there was no way. Get on that pull up bar, let's see what you can do. Yeah, I mean, you know, it was motivating because you got, you got embarrassed publicly.

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

Yeah.

[David Penn (Host)]

And then it was a, there was no, there was no participation awards back then. So it was about competing physically.

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

See, that's weird because I feel like that's reminiscent to my memories in like elementary school. But as I got older, once I got to high school, it was like the gym teachers didn't even try. Like just a simple warmup of running around the gym. You had half the class just walking.

[David Penn (Host)]

Yeah, well, okay, great. I think only 25% of the current cohort of 18 year olds are physically qualified to make it into the military. 75. I mean, I'm not making the number up. I mean, that's the number. I believe it.

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

I mean, look at me.

[David Penn (Host)]

What do you mean look at you? Aren't you going out in the woods this weekend?

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

Oh yeah. But I don't know, military is a little different. I'm not military ready by any means.

[David Penn (Host)]

Oh, well, you could get, you know how to, you know how to handle a firearm. Which is a lot different than a lot of the people in your generation who want to opine on firearms and have never trained with them. So you know, there's a lot of different elements to it. Let's not be too self deprecating because you have some very martial skills. You don't just see him, you just don't see him as a martial skill.

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

I appreciate you very compliment.

[David Penn (Host)]

Well, I'm just saying, I mean I just, I sit and talk to people in my own family about gun rights.

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

Yeah.

[David Penn (Host)]

And I know none of these people have ever. They've never handled a gun. I remember. This is a funny story. Sorry, I digress. It's a serious subject today. But this is about 1967. 68. Because this gun battle, this gun rights conversation goes back a long way.

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

Yeah.

[David Penn (Host)]

And my dad, of course, Mr. Liberal, was opposed to the idea of people having guns. But his wife, my mother's family, they were from the wrong side of the street and they were gangsters. He just didn't know it because, you know, everybody had kind of cleaned up by the 60s when they came here in the 20s and 30s. Hey, let me give you a blast, okay? We get down on all these young black kids that are shooting each other and dealing drugs, Right. Okay. Well, the Jewish people came here. They didn't like those same people. Don't like blacks, don't like Jews. So the Jews were on ghettos. The ghetto here in Minneapolis was in the north side. And the ghetto in St. Paul was down where the old St. Paul airport is now. And they couldn't get jobs, nobody hire them. They had to run their own kind of underground community economy. A lot of them went into a life of crime because we had a really kind of a period there. It's called Prohibition. You know, it wasn't legal. Yeah. To buy and sell liquor. Oh, gangster's paradise.

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

A really fun fact about Minneapolis at that time. There is a whole labyrinth of tunnel systems underneath Minneapolis that was used during the prohibition times.

[David Penn (Host)]

St. Paul, too.

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

Yeah. Well, they all connect under Nicole island and everything.

[David Penn (Host)]

So I'm sitting at the. Friday night. The. The Shabbat dinner. The Shabbat dinner. Sabbath, you know, Jews go Friday, Saturday. Hey, we all got our own, you know, Christians go Sunday. You got to be different or you're going to be Jewish. Right? So they're on Friday night dinner, and my dad is opining about handguns. And my uncle, hey, Misha, have you ever seen a handgun? My dad goes, what do you mean? And into his bang right on the table that went, those were some old school gangsters.

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

I gotta know. What was your dad's reaction to that?

[David Penn (Host)]

They. That was a. One of the more famous moments where our family cleaved into two groups, okay? Because my mother and my father were mortified that Mount Karani, God rest him, carried a gun with him wherever he went. Of course, his brother was the head teamster here in the Twin Cities. So, I mean, crime pays. Yeah. That's all I can say about that. Now. That's a vision. I digress. That's a vision that was prevalent, and I'm saying we could even improve dramatically the results of well being if people who knew more than just the physical frame, but knew how to unite physical training with spiritual growth. We were talking about that on Hebrews last night. Royce White and I were talking about this. Royce was talking about the Catholic idea that as the intellect grows, the spirit grows, that that's inextricably linked, and that's Catholic doctrine. But I'll tell you Eastern doctrine, as the body grows, the spirit and the mind grows because it's a unity and we just don't teach it that way. You know, we could and you know what would happen if we taught it that way. Well, we wouldn't need this. Number two, play number two. I'll tell you when to stop. That'll be when I've had enough of it.

[Bill Gates (Clip Speaker)]

Microsoft co founder Bill Gates publishing a memo that suggests adopting a different view and changing strategy towards addressing climate change. It is a rebuttal to what he calls, quote, the doomsday scenario, which Gates says is, quote, causing much of the climate community to focus too much on near term goal emission. Near term emission goals, and it's diverting resources, he says, from the most effective things we should be doing to improve life in a warming world. He writes, quote, this is a chance to refocus on the metric that should count even more than emissions and temperature change. Improving lives. Our chief goal should be to prevent suffering, particularly for those in the toughest conditions who live in the world's poorest countries. Although climate change will hurt poor people more than anyone else, for the vast majority of them it will not be the only or even the biggest threat to their lives and welfare. The biggest problems are poverty and disease, just as they always have been. Now, I spoke to Bill Gates in an exclusive TV interview and I asked him to explain what he hopes people take away from this new message. Climate is a super important problem.

[David Penn (Host)]

There's enough innovation here to avoid super bad outcomes.

[Bill Gates (Clip Speaker)]

We won't achieve our best goal, the 1.5 or even the 2 degrees.

[David Penn (Host)]

And as we go about trying to.

[Bill Gates (Clip Speaker)]

Minimize that, we have to frame it in terms of overall human welfare. Not just everything should be solely for climate. How much of your own view is a function of just contextually what's happening in the world versus what I think you've thought for a long time about the climate? Well, if the aid budgets to poor.

[David Penn (Host)]

Countries were continuing to go up the.

[Bill Gates (Clip Speaker)]

Way they did over the last 25.

[David Penn (Host)]

Years, then the trade offs between climate.

[Bill Gates (Clip Speaker)]

Action and saving children's lives wouldn't be as acute as it is now that.

[David Penn (Host)]

These budgets are going down and going down quite a bit.

[Bill Gates (Clip Speaker)]

And so the plea here is to say, okay, let's take that very limited.

[David Penn (Host)]

Money and not have some partitioned off for particular causes. Let's measure it all in terms of the human welfare.

[Bill Gates (Clip Speaker)]

How do you help those countries? You were a huge supporter of the Paris Climate accord at the time.

[David Penn (Host)]

That's good, sir. And I wonder. Thank you very much. Thank you. So what we have here now is two visions. We have the President Kennedy vision where the society educates each citizen in personal well being and to develop the skills to maintain. To develop and maintain personal vitality. That was the point of the first clip. Now we've gone into this other thing which is really an important change. Bill Gates being such an important leader, he's saying that there's an overemphasis on climate, emission control, emissions. We're getting off track with this, we need to redeploy. He actually says downstream there that we have the technology to control this climate issue. Not a big deal. It's okay. We need to take those resources and put it into lessening human suffering through vaccinations and health interventions on a globalized planetary scale. These are two different visions of how we either self govern our vitality or we participate in the governing of, of our well being. These are stark contrasts. I'm asking you to please contemplate this as you consider getting involved in politics. Because what's being developed, I'm sure out of the most altruistic and well meaning place is a medicalized, technologized strategy for lessening human suffering. You know when my suffering's going to end, Tanner?

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

When you die?

[David Penn (Host)]

That's correct.

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

Yeah.

[David Penn (Host)]

We're going to move on. Thank you very much, Bill Gates. And to all the people that listen here to the professed Ben podcast. Remember, sometimes we speak in ways that force you to stretch out your thinking a little. Okay, let's take a look at a clip number four.

[Activist/Protester]

At least they're warning us. So on November 1st, EBT and SNAP benefits are being taken away as a result of the government shutdown. You might say that doesn't matter to me. I'm not on ebt.

[David Penn (Host)]

Great.

[Activist/Protester]

Those people need to get jobs. That's not the argument or the discussion here. People without food for themselves and their children get desperate. And as you can see from the the following videos they're taking to Tik Tok and Instagram to let you know. So what I have to say to you is stay vigilant, keep situational awareness and put your thoughts in the comments below. Just a thought. Have a great day. If you work at a grocery store and you know that the food stamps is not working in November and you see people stealing and you snitch, you deserve to die. That's right. Trump said all the groceries is free now. That's what I heard. Well, you take from us, we take from you. It's the fact that Trump think he doing something by not giving food stamps next month. Like don't have purses and bags. We're gonna eat and we're gonna eat good. On your dime. Ho yeah. On the big corporation's dime. Cause what food stamp ain't stopping no show. You wait and see how hungry people get and see what the happened.

[David Penn (Host)]

And if you are that Walmart employee.

[Podcast Disclaimer Narrator]

Who snitched on that single mother of five for simply trying to feed her.

[David Penn (Host)]

Kids, mind your business. Everybody came into Walmart bum rushing, stealing, like filling up buggies, running out the store like just putting all the groceries in their cart because he want to cut off mother food stamps.

[Activist/Protester]

I will be at mother Walmart with my steel toes on in my mother helmet and I dare try to stop me from walking out that mother stove with my groceries, baby. I'm £250 solid, baby. You want to see a human mother bulldozer, baby? Because that's what the I'm turning to. If you think you going to stop me from leaving out that goddamn stove with my mother monthly groceries. I would hate for you to not be able to make it back to your family and for you to not be able to make it back home because you trying to save these billionaire companies. So if y' all think the people are the only ones that's gonna be.

[David Penn (Host)]

Losing out this little text message notification.

[Activist/Protester]

Y' all sent about us not getting our November ebt, you guys are very mistaken. So this message is also for Walmart, Kroger, Albertson Companies, Publix, Audi, Costco and Sam Clubs and Target. Y' all better stay the out of my way in these stores. I'm walking out with cars and I'm not paying for Trump. If you want mother start losing. Oh, it's gonna happen before my kids go broke in this like jock. I'm gonna be stealing like it ain't no tomorrow.

[David Penn (Host)]

Well, that was something. Something that most of us don't see every day. Knee jerk reaction. Blame it on the Democrats. No, no, no, no, no, no. Not correct. You know, as Republicans, you know, we're standing on these four pillars of Republicanism. I'm a citizen sovereign. I respect minority rights or your rights. I believe in the common good, in developing policies that bring about a common good. And then I participate in civic life. You know, Republicans have missed some pieces here. Well, they love being sovereign. They look at their 401k and they say, wow, look at those pixels. I'm the man or I'm the woman, as the case may be. Most of the time, they respect the rule of law. Most of the time. Not all the time, because, you know, I've been around some very disheartening conversations relative to that, but hey, most of the time overall. But when it comes down to the common good, the common good, we don't understand that very well here in the Republican Party. And we have pursued policies over decades which has created this kind of income inequality gap, and that's what that is. That's why Mandami won in, in New York City, because the stark contrast between the billionaires of that city and the poverty in that city is easily weaponized by the Marxists. And they did a great job. They did it successfully. And then the final one, you know, that participation in civic life part, wow. We just don't do it. So what does participation in civic life mean? It's an infinite opportunity to participate, to work with people we don't know or don't know well, to make for a better life for everybody. And we have these citizens. And I know the reaction. I mean, take a gut check on your initial reaction. Don't have to say anything. Just think. What did you think and feel when you saw that a hungry man is an angry man? And do I think we're heading into a moment of civil unrest in November? No, I don't think it's going to happen because they got to walk you there step by step. You know, we're getting programmed to expect certain things to happen. Now, I could criticize the Democrat Party all day long. And people in the Republican Party say to me, why don't you criticize the Democrats? They have a complete knockdown drag out there in the Democrat Party. And you know what? It's the same thing that's going on in the Republican Party, but a little different. And I'm going to summarize the difference for you. They don't believe in God, and some people still in the Republican Party do. The rest of it is just noise because both educators on both sides of the football see the same thing. The evil in our society is in the center, where most of the parties on both sides of the football play. The evil, the fraud, the killing, the unrest, the. The inequity is generated out of the center that's been in control of this country for a very, very long time. And on the, on the left, they're looking at the traditional Democrat Party, the liberals, and they're saying, hey, you're in business with these Republicans. It's all about the money for you people. And we got citizens that will starve. So we're going to go talk to the people who are starving and we're going to get them organized and we're going to take from you people what we think is fair. And you heard it in those clips, those folks think that they're owed. Yeah.

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

The one lady especially said, you take from me and we're going to take from you.

[David Penn (Host)]

Like they're already taken.

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

Yeah.

[David Penn (Host)]

I mean, you start out as a taker. No, I'm not. I don't want to impugn these people as being takers. I'm just talking about it as a commentary. There's givers and takers. And generally speaking, there has to be a balance here. We're out of balance. We're just out of balance. Too many people taking, not enough people given. And the same thing's going on in the Republican Party. And I'm one of those people, I'm criticizing my party. I'm saying, come on, you people, you're not doing things that are creating the common good. You're creating things like it's a battle. You're in a fight. Fight with people. Well, I'm not in a fight with these citizens. I want them to have better lives. I'm actually doing the work. I don't have to go to my death feeling guilty about this because I'm actually doing the work. I'm going to tell you right now when I tell you to get involved in politics, boy, there is no more healing path than giving over to the politics to bring about a common good. Because whatever bothers you or whatever you're carrying with you, that baggage is going to drop when you give over to doing the Lord's work. And that's what it is. And we got more than half people that don't know it as the Lord's work. I do and I speak to it and I've lived it and I know it's real for me. And I'd like to help other people find that pathway. I don't trust my religious leaders in any religion. We're living in a moment of increasing devolution. You got to lose it to find it. And right now the old order is coming undone. We're fighting about what the new order is going to be. In fact, I don't think this two party system is going to look this way much longer. I think on the right you've got a group of people who are fracturing away from the traditional Uni party and they're growing in power. That's why I call this episode the crack in the wall. Because the narrative that the traditional politicians have been plying for decades, it's really not working anymore because there's all this new media and it's just out of their control. They can't control it. And people just look at, man, I look on X and I see these traditional Republicans posting, you know, on X and you just read the threat and people just hate them. I mean, they just hate them. They hate them. They know they're lying. You know, the politicians must know that. The people know they're lying. Everybody knows it's a lie. So what are we really doing here? Well, the parties, I believe the parties are willing to fracture off their most vocal and hardworking educators, activists. I say educator, thanks to Phil Parrish, but activists, they're willing to shed the parties of the most hardworking people to maintain control of that center where the money is. So on the right, there's a lot of fracturing going on. I mean it goes all the way out to the Nick Fuentes movement, which is. Man, you're on. You're underestimating that. Okay. You're not. Because it's right at your age group.

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

Oh my gosh. Yeah. Don't estimate it. Don't underestimate it. My bad.

[David Penn (Host)]

Yes. Is. Do you find that it's compelling to a lot of people in your age group?

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

Yeah, because there's a lot of. Especially young men. We're just, we don't find a place on the Democrat side. And when we look at the Republican party as it stands right now, we also don't find ourselves a position.

[David Penn (Host)]

Cuz we're. The party's not delivering.

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

Yeah.

[David Penn (Host)]

At least when you have a 25 year old frame, you don't see it as delivering. So that makes fodder for. And I'll tell you, I love, I mean, I'm sorry, I love watching Reverend Louis Farrakhan. He's a great orator and he says a lot of great things. Nick Fuentes is fantastic. He's a fantastic. I narrowly do wish that Professor Penn had Nick Fuentes skills. He's fantastic. I'm not saying I agree with everything he says. And if you're afraid to watch stuff and see what other people are saying, you're going to turn your back on it because you don't like some of the ideas. You, you're not part of the deal. I would love to have Nick Fuentes hear this and for some reason say, yeah, get that kike on My show. I'd love that. Yeah, because I'd like to talk to him. I mean, because nobody is finished in their development. We're all walking along and he could come around the corner and say, wait a second, I want to talk about this differently. There's a reason why he got the way that he is. And I think we need to understand why and what's going on and speak to young people. Because when we use, when we lose this young generation to, you know, kind of a radical interpretation of things that includes hate and violence. Well, hey, you know, we gave birth to it. They're our kids. I got a 32 year old son. I mean, come on. Hey, Boomers, come on, just turn your back on and see what happens. Like here comes Thanksgiving. I wonder how that's going to work for everybody anyhow. And on the left, obviously, with the victory of Mandami and the almost success of fate here in Minneapolis, this is just portends things that are coming. The parties are under assault. The Uni Party. So Uni Party, what do they do on the Republican side? Hey, I'm the hardest working guy in show business and they threw me out because they don't want my work. Because I'm talking to people like you. They don't want you in the party. Yeah, because if you become a delegate, you might not vote for the Uni Party. So they're willing to throw people out and then scream unity, unity, unity at the same time. Okay, that's politics. Great. Here's what I'm doing and here's what I want you to do, particularly if you're in Minnesota. Dan Schultz likes this part of the show. Caucus comes up in February. Politics starts at caucus. What is caucus? That's a neighborhood meeting right by your house with your neighbors. We'll be giving it a lot of coverage. As we get closer to February, what it means to you. And this goes on in every state. Some form of this goes on in every state. You enter the political process if you want to preserve a republic, if you would like to live in a communist country, stay home and be entertained. It's just that simple. Because can you see it's coming? Can you see what's coming down the drainpipe? Let me just take a frame back into the early 1930s in Germany, because this is getting very similar here. On the far left were the communists. They were communists, Marxists. Just like Mandami is a Marxist. He's a Marxist, okay? I don't care what they say when they sit there in suits and smile and you saw the comments in my ex. Oh, hey, this isn't communism. This is democratic socialism. Yeah. It's different. Yeah. You. It's not. I'm old enough to know it's not. You're not. You're a kid. God bless you. It doesn't end the way it starts. Kind of like a marriage.

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

The one thing I would like to. Maybe we could devote a episode to it. But a common comment that I saw on our tiktoks at least was saying that the only reason communism has not worked in other countries is because the United States has gotten involved and tried to collapse it every time.

[David Penn (Host)]

Oh, really?

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

I don't know. So I would love to dig deep into that.

[David Penn (Host)]

Have you ever heard of the bamboo curtain?

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

No.

[David Penn (Host)]

Okay. China went communist in 1949 and Mao was an ideologue. He believed in radical class struggle and everybody got poor real quick. Okay. It was Chinese communism. Communism. Millions of people were killed. Millions of people were starved to death. The country went into abject poverty. It was a mind virus. Kind of proportional with what we got going on with some of the folks here in this country. You ask any Chinese person that are in their 40s or younger, they're going to tell you right now. Mistake. They don't look back on that fondly. Now, China has a capitalist system, a meritocracy system. That's a one party rule. And it's not communist, man. There's no communism in China. There's no pensions, there's no health care. You work or you starve to death. That's a fact. I can say it because I've been there. Oh, you want. You're Chinese. You want to argue with me? Fine. Put it in the comments. I'm friends with somebody, or parents. She told me they have a pension. You know how much it is? You ready? From the government. $7 a month. Nice. You're gonna live on 7 bucks a month. And you know what? I'm eligible for Social Security. You know how much I'm gonna get? 4,000 bucks a month. Yeah, you're paying for it. Keep working. I got you. Thank you. The common good. The common good. But my point in saying this is for someone who would say that the United States intervened into internal Chinese politics. Hey, we can't do it today. Except with a club from the outside through tariff policy, that is intervening. But there's no on the ground. Hey, we tried it actually, but that had nothing to do with how it turned out. Like the Tiananmen Square massacre, in the student uprising, during the George Bush Senior period of time. Yeah, we had all kinds of. In fact, we're going to talk about one of those organizations today, the National Endowment for Democracy was very involved, but it didn't move the needle. The Chinese don't care. They're not letting outside influences determine the future of their country. Can I tell you why?

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

Why?

[David Penn (Host)]

They're ethnonationalists. They don't care what white Americans say. They'll look and smile and have a drink, smoke a cigarette, say, boy, that's very intelligent. Thank you for sharing. And then you just get back in the limousine and go home and ignore it. They're about China. If we had the focus on our own country that the Chinese have on theirs, oh, things would be different. You know, when Chinese do foreign policy, you know why they do it? Extract wealth. That's it. Now here's the dirty little dark secret. We do the same thing foreign policy is. But we got all these people here in our country that think our foreign policy is about doing good, spreading democracy and all, right? Chinese are not the average Chinese. You talk to a cab driver and ask him about Chinese foreign policy, you're going to say, good eating for me. They all know, they don't have any illusions over there. But the United States and Minnesota in particular have been ill served by the Republican Party because the Republican Party became a progressive party after World War II. When I say progressive, I mean take a look at the party. What does it still to this day believe? I went to a wonderful event. I actually was at a breakfast with ex president or former president George W. Bush. And I had great respect for his presentation. He was a very engaging speaker. The dialogue was sensational. His storytelling was at a intergalactic level of skill. And I voted for George Bush twice. Put your hand up out there if you're a boomer. And I still like them. I still like Don Rumsfeld, their style because they come out of that background where I do, where, hey, you know, there was two genders, there was no maybe, maybe not. That didn't exist. This guy is. This guy lives in Midland, Texas. He lives in the oil patch, which is the. I'm going to tell you because I got business down there. It's like the wild. It's the last wild west in the country, okay? That's where he lives. So, you know, he's a man's man. It's cool. Politically, he believes in immigration is the strength of the country. He believes in a worldwide empire of foreign policy to protect Americans. And he's a free trader and he said those things publicly and he said them very specifically. And he mostly stays out of civic life. And we were told we couldn't record him. I'm just reporting it. And I'm going to tell you I don't agree with those things. But I don't hate him for holding it. Because this kind of philosophy waxes and wanes if we become very nationalist and very, you know, country centric and centered in our own problems. When we sort our problems out, we're a great nation. We'll move back out into the world, and we're never going to sever our international business ties or diplomatic ties. So when we get absolutist about this stuff, you know, Roy said on. On a couple times, I've been out with them at events where he said we need to have a moratorium on immigration until the current problem is sorted out. He's not saying no more immigrants. He's saying, we got a lot of people in the country. We got to sort this out. Let's sort out the policy and fix things. He's not saying no immigration. Let's not misinterpret what's being said. What's being said is we got a problem that has existed since operation Wetback under President Eisenhower, which was the 50s. Can you imagine a government program that. The name of it was Operation Wetback. Look at how far we have come. And then we get down to. And I was watching the pope this morning talking about we'll be judged in the end times about how we treat the stranger. You know, the pope is out there larping for the globalists. Well, of course he is. There's no more global organization in the world than the Catholic church. It owns 177 million acres of land. Wow, 177. Look it up. If you think I'm making it up, it's going to show right up on Grok and it'll show right up on Google. It's 177. We're not talking about the buildings now. We're just talking about the land upon which the buildings sit. It's a globalist organization. The church is not tied. You know, the, you know, Vatican city is actually a country. You can walk from one end to the other probably in 15 minutes. So, you know, they're running a worldwide empire there. We're not. We're running a nation, a republic. So a fundamental question is, do we want to maintain ourselves as a republic? Do we want borders? Do we want to have a nation? That's the fundamental question. We Have. And we haven't answered it yet, as you could see from the elections, because New York elected a socialist communist mayor. And workers of the world unite. Remember? Have you heard that before?

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

Yeah.

[David Penn (Host)]

Okay. So the communists believe in one world governance. I mean, that's what the World Economic Forum is all about. If we could solve that question and answer it for ourselves, we would answer the next question, what kind of country do we want to be? And we're down to that now. I mean, and we're going to talk about the Revolutionary War a little bit. Tonight. We had a revolution. What was the question? Do we want to have our own country? Yes. What kind of country do we want it to be? And that was solved by the time the Constitution was written. That's what the Constitution is. This is what kind of country we want to have. In fact, that constitution guarantees every state a republican form of governance. And just please let. Just. I want to read this to you correctly, so just give me a second to find it. I didn't come prepared with this, but I'm okay. Here it is. This is in your constitute. When I say it's yours, it's ours. It's the founding, organizing document of our entire program here, Article 4, Section 4. And ask yourself, is it worth getting out into your neighborhood, meeting your neighbors, putting them on a list, being in touch with them? And heck, if you go to my Accent Rothban podcast, there's tons of content that you can repost into your own socials or to your own list of people. I'm saying every one of you is running for office in the office you're running for lead Republican in your neighborhood, or even lead Democrat in your neighborhood. Who is going to go out and meet their neighbors? Who is going to bring their neighbors into politics? Who's going to do the evangelical work of doing what? The United States, which was a new idea at that time, shall guarantee to each and every state in the union a republican form of government and shall protect each of them against invasion. And I'm on application of the legislature or of the Executive Against Domestic Violence, EBT revolt in your Constitution. And what does it guarantee now? What is a republican form of governance? You are the sovereign of your own life. You respect the rights of every other citizen. You believe in the common good. So we have a functioning society and you participate in civic life. Where have Republicans fallen down? You're not participating in civic life. And we've allowed a oligarchic, kleptocratic ruling class to develop that have aggregated all the wealth to 11% of the country, leaving 89% with crumbs. And they're going to revolt because we haven't shared the gains of our society in a way that allows people to be sovereign in their own lives. Of course it's going to break down. Those people on that EBT clip are utterly dependent on the government and when that dependency goes away, they don't have any other means of support. So we're turning them into what they said they were going to do. Now there's 50 million people on Snap and you know, 50 million people. Does our government have the resources to control 50 million hungry people? Let me tell you, they don't. So we got to think this through on the right side of the football, how completely off center, off register we've become. You're not a Republican if you don't participate. Stop calling yourself one. Voting every other year is not Republican. That is virtue signaling. That's just a virtue signal. And if we don't believe in the common good, if we don't believe in our fellow citizens that are here starving, starving potentially, if we're not going to rejigger things. So everybody. And you know, it's not just money, these people are not educated. If they were educated, like for me, if I was starving, I wouldn't rob you. And it's possible I could starve and I wouldn't rob you because I wouldn't do it. I have that code, thou shalt not steal. It's in my heart now. Maybe God put it there before I was born. I don't know. Maybe I learned it from my father. I'm not sure how that works. And I thank God for making me who I am, but we haven't done the work here in Minnesota, so I'm focused on my precinct. Laura Knudsen. Thank you. Laura called or she sent me an email. She said, could you see if there's anybody in my area that you could help me for a lead? Laura did it. And I'm saying, if you're in Minnesota, I got the list of all the Minnesota voters and I got the hot list from the campaigns and we could cross compare right in your area. And like in my area, there's 10 people that I'm going to meet and I'm going to develop relationships with before caucus. You show up at caucus with five neighbors, you win, you get your neighbor, you know, oh, we need the party, you know, that's another excuse. Oh, where's the party? Where's the, you know, Robert, I love you. I love you. AK I love you guys. The party's not getting it done. It's not. It's caught up in conflict and the membership is not active enough to proselytize, to evangelize and get anything done. Why am I saying it? I'm looking at the results. And hey, was it a Republican victory on Tuesday night? Tanner?

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

Not at all.

[David Penn (Host)]

Not at all. We got waxed, okay? It was an off off year election. It's 25. It's not even an off. The turnout was so low. And you know, you talk about Minneapolis with Omar Fattah, there's not even any Republicans down there. Reverend Christopher met with me for lunch. He said there's nobody even down. There's no Republicans to even Marshall. You know, if we had 10 or 15% of the urban voters organized as Republicans, this state would be Republican till the for decades. Okay? We're not doing the basic work so you can do it wherever you live. If it's down south and it's still warm, have a barbecue. Invite your neighbors over. Find an issue that's not polarizing. Don't be afraid to talk to leftists. They're people just like you and me. They care about their kids. Education. Talk about their education, but make I statements I statements. Here's a good political strategy. Try to stay away from this. You only care about transgender issues. You know that's a showstopper, right? I am watching my children at school and I'm not satisfied with my child's progress in math. And it's really disturbing me. And I would like to organize an effort to work with my school and support them so we get better outcomes, not just sit there and harangue and politicize bad outcomes for our children. Bad outcomes for our children is bad outcomes for everybody. We're waiting for these politicians to fix it. Hey, they haven't fixed it in my entire life, 50 years. They're not going to fix it. We have to fix it. We? You and me. We can do it. We have to have a completely different attitude. Do you think the people that got off their ass to fight the British out of this country and create this great republic were sitting around waiting? No, that was a grassroots movement. Leaders emerged. They just emerged. They just popped up out of nowhere, out of nowhere they popped up. They were farmers one day and the next day they were leading the regiment. These were regular, everyday people that got motivated to accomplish what? Freedom. Freedom. And they were willing to die for it. Man, we're not even willing to knock on a door for it. So when we lose it. I don't want to hear any complaining. I really don't want to hear any complaining right now. The only complaining I'm going to listen to is the people that are out there working with me. And then I'm going to hope the complaint is what I'm doing wrong so I can get better at this. The Mingo P. Caves to the left, the Julia Colemans, the Zach Duckworths. And I'm not anti you people. I'm not anti Andrew Myers. You guys have the R after your name. I'm just saying we're going to stand you up now to be Republicans. You know, Alex Plekish puts in the. I got to read that. Let me find this. This was a great one. What did you say, Alex? Oh, Lord, if this is Alex Plecish, this is the leader of our party right here from SD45. I know him well. If we are hardcore on certain key issues all the way to the right, we're probably not going to win. I'm going to read it again. This is the leader of my party. This is the leader of the Republicans. Quote to the Star Tribune. He's speaking to the Star Tribune. Which you have to ask yourself, who talks to the Star Tribune anyhow? If you read it every day like I do, you realize that, you know, it has an editorial bent which has nothing to do with Republicanism. If we are hardcore on certain key issues all the way to the right, we're probably not going to win. Well, if we're not standing for any principles. See, hardcore, that's a label. Labels are cognitive distortions. Alex, what do you mean by hardcore? Like, what does that mean? What does that mean? What does hardcore mean? Does that mean we give up our Second Amendment rights to cater to those that would seek to change that? Does that mean that the party becomes pro woman's right to choose as opposed to pro life? I mean, where do you go with this hardcore thing? What are you talking about? Because you know, that's a label. Please describe it to us. Because I'll tell you what I've been seeing my entire adult life. The party keeps catering to a voter that never embraces Republicans. I mean, we could go full abortion rights tomorrow. We're not going to get women to trust the Republicans. I mean, just come on. This is just stupid. But what we will do is alienate more Christians. And the word around the campfire is a million of them don't vote. We'll talk about that again with John Gap next week, won't we? Or the Week after.

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

Yeah, week after.

[David Penn (Host)]

Week after. Okay, John Gap. Minister Gap's coming back. Onward Christian soldiers. So every time we cater to a left voter, we're going to lose 10 right voters with Alex's theory. And why do I say that's what I is? You know why I say that? History. We haven't won a statewide election in 20 years. Who are we going to blame that on? Well, I'm going to tell you, it's our fault. Our policies don't appeal, even to Republicans. I mean, if you have policies that don't even appeal to your own base, hey, you're not going to win anything. We don't stand for anything. No, we're going to have principles. They're rooted in the philosophy of Republicanism. Look it up, study it. It's a philosophy of life. It's not a political party. It's not. The name was stolen, okay? And now the name has become besmirched. In fact, the brand is ruined because we've gotten away from what? The common good. When you espouse policies that aggrandize a small sliver of the population and they make out like Midas and everybody else gets crumbs, you're besmirched. And that's what we've become. It's all about me, isn't it? Oh, let me check my 401k. Oh, wow. I made money today.

[Activist/Protester]

Wow.

[David Penn (Host)]

That's who we are, you know, that's liberalism. It's all about me. So we've been moving over to the left. Our politicians move to the left. Julia Coleman, the leadership, you know, they move over to the left. The gym Nashes, they move to the left. And then they stand around, they wonder why we lose, or maybe the intent is to lose. I don't know what's in their minds. But if they want to win and they keep up this strategy that if. Alex, if we are hardcore on certain issues all the way to the right, we're probably not going to win. Hey, we haven't won for years. Doing it your way. Kathy folk didn't win in SD45. Refusing to support President Trump, not letting a yard sign be in the same yard with Royce White saying, she didn't win. She got waxed. Well, let's run her again. Let's run her again. Let's run her for Senate this time. Alex. I mean, come on. It doesn't work. I'm talking to all the Republican delegates that are saying, I know a lot of you don't like me. You're watching this. You you know, like you're looking at a lab rat. I get it. Just to hate me. It doesn't work. It's not working. It hasn't worked. Why do you think that doing the same thing the next cycle is going to work? And then we get into number five.

[Political Commentator/Guest]

Doing away with mail in ballots and potentially electronic voting machines. Can you explain on that? Well, I will. That's a very off topic. Just really quickly. Mail in ballots are corrupt. Mail in ballots. You can never have a real democracy with mail in ballots. And we as a Republican Party are going to do everything possible that we get rid of mail in ballots. We're going to start with an executive order that's being written right now by the best lawyers in the country to end mail in ballots because they're corrupt. And you know that we're the only country in the world. I believe I may be wrong, but just about the only country in the world that uses them because of what's happened. Massive fraud all over the place. The other thing we want change are the machines for all of the money they spend. It's approximately 10 times more expensive than paper ballots. And paper ballots are very sophisticated. With the watermark paper and everything else, we would get secure elections. We'd get much faster results. The machines, I mean, they say we're going to have the results in two weeks with paper ballots. You have the results that night. Most people almost, but most people, many countries use paper ballots. It's the most secure form. So between paper ballots, very, very important paper ballots. And I think maybe even more, more important, the mail in voting. We're going to end mail in voting. It's a fraud if you have mail in. Even Jimmy Carter with this commission, they set it up, he said the one thing about mail in voting, you will never have an honest election if you have mail in. And it's time that the Republicans get tough and stop it. Because the Democrats want it. It's the only way they can get elected. Because with men and women's sports and with training transgender for everybody and open borders and all of the horrible things. And now the new thing is they love crime. They're fighting me on the fact that I've made Washington D.C. safe. We're not going to get mugged, beaten up or killed. Like all the people you've been watching get so badly hurt. I'm glad, I hate to take your time on this, but I'm glad you asked me that question. We're going to stop mail in ballots because it's corrupt. You know, when you go to a voting booth and you do it the right way and you go to a state that runs it properly. You go in. They even asked me, they asked me for my license plate for identify. I said, I don't know if I have it. He said, sir, you have to have it. I was very impressed, actually. But it's very hard to cheat with mail in voting as you know what happens in California, it's so corrupt where some people get five, six, seven ballots delivered to them. Now we got to stop mail in voting and the Republicans have to lead the charge. The Democrats want it because they have horrible policy. If you have mail in voting, you're not going to have many Democrats get elected. That's bigger than anything having to do with redistricting, believe me. And the Republicans have to get smart. We're not going to have a country. I said for a long time at rallies every, you need borders and you need free and fair elections. Those two things. Otherwise you don't have. We have strong borders now. In 90 days, Mr. President, we didn't have 100 answer three months. Not one person came in illegally into our country. In fact, even I find that hard to believe. But it's run by a little bit of a liberal group that put out the numbers. So I guess it's but 0, 0 and 0. You go back a year ago, two years ago, three millions of people poured into our country. It was terrible. Thank you very much.

[David Penn (Host)]

So while we're sliding over to the left here in Minnesota and I'm going to remind Alex and I want everybody to understand who's in the party, who's listening. I'm a party supporter, I'm a party participant. You know this one woman over in 42, I can't even remember her name. So tired of the circular firing squad. Where are we heading here? We're heading to communism. We got to stand up and fight. Look at the President now. I have a lot of criticism of the President now, which I'm going to start to let loose because we got to stand this thing up because look what happened in that election. And that is something we got to talk about and think about, but where's the courage? I mean, I actually personally witnessed Alex Plecish just in a very ugly way dismiss a brother Republican's concerns about the elections. And that was my friend Tom Madden. And Alex just was awful to Tom and I was too. I mean, Tom was ahead of me on this. Tom was talking about freedom right after the 2020. That was the only thing he wanted to talk about. I said, tom, there's other things in politics besides elections. Stop. No, he kept going and he was justified and he was correct. And I'm, you know, we don't have the courage. Alex didn't have the courage. Randy Sutter, the leadership, they didn't even want to talk about this issue. Oh, now, now that President Trump has risked his life and his fortune and put it out there, now all of a sudden the hierarchy wants to talk about automatic voter registration and all the different problems we have here and in Minnesota, the way our elections are being run. You know, this is our fault. We allowed this. We Republicans allowed this by not participating, by not organizing our neighborhoods, by not showing up at caucus, by not making our party Republican, allowing these people who are not really Republicans, because they don't have all of the attributes. If you don't believe in the common good, if you're not. If every policy is not about the common good, you're missing some of the elements thereof. Now, there's the other side. Marc Elias, Elias Law Group. This is the guy, Mark Elias, who, you know, was involved in seeing that Norm Coleman got retired. Now Franken went to the Senate. They phoned a box of ballots there at the end. Nice work. You know who funds him? This guy is filing lawsuits and arguing cases all over the country. On the other side of this football, well, you can go look it up. The first people that fund him is the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, the Democratic National Committee, the Senate Majority pac. But when you get down downstream a little bit. Oh, he's getting a lot of international money, like from guess who? George Soros. So this guy is trying to keep the guardrails off of our elections because they know how this goes down. Nobody's going to go to jail for this. They just got the things. Hey, when there's no rules, there's no rules. If the rule is there's no rule, then nobody's really breaking any rules. Right. And that's what we've got here. That's what we've got. And President Trump issued an executive order saying that every voter had approved they were American citizens. And guess what the court system says, no, we're not doing that because the courts. Guess who's in the courts? Lawyers. Where do the lawyers come from? School. What school? A leftist finishing program to turn out progressives. Is it a surprise that yesterday the Supreme Court heard arguments on the reciprocal tariffs? I don't know what they're going to rule, but it looks like they're going to say up no tariffs now, what's going to happen that's going to destroy President Trump's entire economic program here? There is actually something taking hold. It's called restructuring. You know, when you restructure a company, and I'm going to tell you this, I know, because I've just restructured mine. Covid destroyed the COVID era for all kinds of reasons, including my own stupidity and my own gambles. My company was destroyed. And it's been, you know, hurting. And I'm going to tell you how a fight works, because owning a business, just like a fight. The fight's over when you stay down. I didn't stay down. I kept fighting and fighting. And I've been restructuring my company and people have stayed with me with, like, my bank, which I appreciate. And now my prospects are starting to improve. Not because there was a miracle, because I didn't give up. And that's how it is in our country. My company need restructuring. It didn't happen overnight. President Trump has restructured a globalized system of political economy that has roots in 46, 1946. He's the first person that stood up and said, I'm not tinkering with this. I'm going to change it wholesale. And tariffs were a big part of the policy. Well, when they undo that, they're dooming this presidency. And I've said this to people around me, these jurists on the Supreme Court that were so sure that they're conservative, I'm not. And it looks like they're going to pull the pins on this thing. And if they do, well, the first thing that's going to happen is billions of dollars are going to get refunded to everybody that was an importer. And a lot of that money is going to go to guess where, guess where you think that money's going to go. China. Billions. It's a foreign aid program for our foreign competitors. And then the fiscal hole that's going to be left after the big, beautiful bill, I mean, we're going to go broke, possibly. And I asked myself is that the plan is seeing these people say, we're going to eat you and we're going to steal from you, getting us ready for the kind of social unrest when the thing really breaks. And when it breaks, we're not going to go away. We're just no longer going to have a republic. And the only way we're going to stop this from happening is if you recognize right now, tonight, how serious this is. Don't leave this up to anybody. This is your ass. This is Your ass, the ass of your parents, the ass of your children and your neighbors if you don't. If we don't do this, we're screwed now, okay? And it's messy. And we got to rally around a set of principles that we're developing here at Free People Radio and other places you can go. And let's get our game together, because we got these people like Andy Bream used to be the press secretary for Norm Coleman, head of the Republican Jewish Conference, an Israel lobby. Andy Bream says Tim Pawlenty should reconsider and run for the U.S. senate. And Pawlenty himself said he couldn't even get the endorsement or win a primary on the Republican side. These people are not giving up. And this guy has the. I don't know. Just the brass. It's the brass. How? They just try to predictively program everything. So this is Andy Bream's quote. And who's Andy Bream? He's nobody, but it's in the Star Tribune and his programming people. So unless Minnesota Republicans opt for a political kamikaze campaign and run the patently unfit for office Royce White again, the GOP candidate for U.S. senate for. Let me try this again. This is really important. So unless Minnesota Republicans opt for a political kamikaze campaign and run the patently unfit for office, Royce White again, the GOP candidate for U.S. senate should be competitive. Now, you know what, Andy? I would like you to get in a room with me and Royce, and let's talk. You're an educated man. You're a lawyer, went to a liberal law school. You think that a globalist should be our representative. Tim Palenti, you have a political perspective. I step into the ring of ideas because in the ring of ideas, you're going to get waxed. Okay, what you're saying is Royce White is unfit for office because of certain personal issues that you want to highlight. And I'm going to say something to you and to all of my brother and sister Republicans. Look at your country. We have a clip in this video where your fellow citizens are saying if they don't get their SNAP benefits, they're going to rob you. You might not make it home. Did you hear that one person say that?

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

Yeah.

[David Penn (Host)]

A threat to your life. We're 37, almost $38 trillion in debt, and our entire fiscal restructuring is about to get submarined by the Supreme Court. And they're going to say it's the law. I hope so. It might not be. It could be something else. I don't Know, I'm not in their heads. We're bombing all over the world. There's wars everywhere. And who brought us this situation? A bunch of educated, married to their high school sweethearts with three kids, all of them grow up. They all did great. They served in the military. They graduated from Harvard Law School. These people did everything right. No divorces, never got caught stealing, risked their lives as veterans, and look at what they gave me. So, Andy, if you think that you're fit for office, because we don't know what personal peccadilloes you're hiding from everybody, because I'm going to tell you, at my age, I know that every one of us, including myself, struggle with sin. You know what Royce White does? He wears it on his sleeve. He says, yeah, I got problems. I got big problems. You know, it doesn't have anything to do with politics. If we had a functioning country with no debt and we were at peace and all of our children were educated and everybody had a job and we were all going off and living in a paradise which we could create. Of course they tell us we can't, so we don't try. No, no, we could do it. It's just about who educates our children and what they get taught. Somebody taught those kids to talk that way to you and to scare you that they're going to kill you if they don't get their benefits. They were taught that they didn't come out of the womb like that. They were taught that there's a whole other kind of education. We just don't use it anymore. Because you know what? It has principles. But if we're going to believe that these people in the Congress, the Andy Breams, the Tim Pawlenty's, the Julia Colemans, the Jim Nashes, that they don't have personal issues that are hidden from us, well, that would just be very naive. And their personal issues don't matter to me. That's why it's called personal. I have all kinds of personal issues. I mean, you know, somebody in my life could stand up and say, I'm this, that thus, and so I don't care. Go ahead. I got my side of the story. It's not news. My personal life. Your personal life. That's why it's called personal. What are your professional public policies? What are you going to do as a Republican to restore the common good and encourage every citizen to get involved in civic life. And if you can answer that for me, I'm interested and my mind is open in any of you. Jim Nash, Julia Coleman, Representative Emmer, I respect you all on a personal basis. You're all welcome to come in here and convince me why your politics is going to help us win in Minnesota. That's what I want to get to. You know, Alex was in the paper and they were saying, well, maybe Kathy Folk's going to run for Senate. Kathy Folk, I know this woman. Put her in a room with Royce White and let him talk. You're going to see in 60 seconds why this woman is patently unfit to run to the grocery store, let alone run an organization or run for Senate. No. This is the world of political ideas. And if you have nothing new to say, if you have no ideas and all you're going to do is tout the party line, you're just going to continue to bring us the outcomes that we're suffering from right now, today. Let's listen to number six, please.

[Political Commentator/Guest]

Caught President Obama absolutely cold. Tulsi Gabbard. What they did to this country and 2016, starting in 2016, but going up all the way, going up to 2020 in the election, they tried to rig the election and they got caught. And there should be very severe consequences for that. You know, when we caught Hillary Clinton, I said, you know what, let's not, let's not go too far here. It's the ex wife of a president, and I thought it was sort of terrible and I let her off the hook and I'm very happy I did. But it's time to start. After what they did to me and whether it's right or wrong, it's time to go after people. Obama's been caught directly. So people say, oh, you know, a group. It's not a group, it's Obama. His orders are on the paper. The papers are signed. The papers came right out of their office. They sent everything to be highly classified. Well, the highly classified been released. And what they did in 2016 and in 2020 is very criminal. It's criminal at the highest level. So that's really the things you should be talking about. I know nothing about the other, but I think it's appropriate that they do go. May I ask you about that, Mr. President? Tulsi Gabbard has submitted a criminal referral to the Department of Justice. From your perspective, who should the DOJ target as part of their investigation? What specific figures in the Obama administration? Well, based on what I read, and I read pretty much what you read, it would be President Obama, he started it and Biden was there with him and Comey was there and Clapper, the whole group was there. Brennan. They were all there in a room right here. This was the room. This is much more beautiful than it was then. But that's okay. I have nice pictures up that came out of the vaults. They were there for 100 years. This is much more beautiful. We have the Declaration of Independence now in the room, which wasn't here. I guess people didn't feel too good about putting it here, but I do. But you know what? If you look at that, those papers, they have them stone Cold. And it was President Obama. It wasn't lots of people all over the place. It was them, too. But the leader of the gang was President Obama. Barack Hussein Obama. Have you heard of him? And except for the fact that he gets shielded by the press for his entire life, that's the one they look, he's guilty. It's not a question. You know, I like to say, let's give it time. It's there. He's guilty.

[David Penn (Host)]

They.

[Political Commentator/Guest]

This was treason. This was every word you can think of. They tried to steal the election. They tried to obfuscate the election. They did things that nobody's ever even imagined. Even in other countries, you've seen some pretty rough countries. This man has seen some pretty rough countries, but you've never seen anything like it. And we have all of the documents, and from what Tulsi told me.

[David Penn (Host)]

That's good, Tim. Thank you. So what we've got here is a president. And like I said, there's going to be a lot of criticisms coming up, but, man, there's some bravery here to do this. And courage is contagious. And if we're going to save our state, save our neighborhood, save our country, we're going to have to start to confront the people who are heading us towards the new World order and one world government, one world economy. I mean, we're just going to have to. And I'm saying, again, the economy, globalized economy, waxes and wanes, but this is the first time in my lifetime where it's been used to create one world government. And that's a long way from my neighborhood. And I don't want to be ruled from afar. I want to maintain the Republican form of governance that is guaranteed me by the Constitution of the United States. That is my goal. But the other people have other goals. You know, there's something on the script. You see this? Could you put this up on the screen? This. This was a survey that went around. I don't know what the source was. This was a survey that Went around the Republican Party in the state of Minnesota. Number four. The question was, if the election was held today, who would be your choice for the Republican candidate for U.S. senate, veteran Adam Schwarzy. Sounds great. We love our veterans, don't we? You know, we went off to Afghanistan. We thought that was a righteous deal at the time. And at the time, Afghanistan was, I think, 3% of world heroin supply, poppy production. When we left, it was 97%. Nice work. Okay, so we got great veterans, and we got veterans that turned Afghanistan into the center of the heroin trade. They're veterans. So let's not bandy that word around as if it's always and forever wonderful. There are great veterans, but there it is. Using it next to Adam Schwartze. Then we've got former Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenti. A governor. A former governor. That's kind of a big title. We got labels here. Veteran and governor. And then the next one, former basketball player. Not even former star or former NBA player. Like he was playing at the local playground. Yeah, former basketball player. I mean, this is very manipulative. This is not Republican. Whoever sent this out, I hope whoever sent this out gets this clip. Republicans, we are concerned with anti corruption. That is the impetus of Republicanism to end corruption. And they go, oh, corruption, corruption. They're stealing billions. No, no, no. Soulful corruption. And you got to be very corrupt as a political operative to put out a poll like this where you use labels. Veteran governor and former basketball player. This is very manipulated. You want to be manipulated by these people? If that's your goal, you know, just stay home. All we got to do is show up and be honest. See, they don't like me because I'm asking them to be honest. Please be honest. Please, let's stop lied. Or. What did Mark Mitchell say? Authenticity, right? Authenticity. We need authenticity. This is not authentic. And we got another one. Let's pop this next one up here. Even better. I like this one even more. From the following list of announced candidates, if the election was held today, who would be your first choice for Republican candidate or Minnesota governor, Former Minnesota Senator Scott Jensen. Kendall calls. They don't. They don't put any label on Kendall. They must not like Kendall. Kendall's already fallen from grace with the sea. Oh, look at this. Minnesota Speaker, State Representative Lisa Daymuth. Wow. She's currently. And then we got Minnesota State Representative Kristen Robbins. Wow. Nice to. And look at the next one. Three people in one one spot. Phil Parish, Brad Kohler and Jeff Johnson. And Stick and Phil Parish in the same spot. With Brad Kohler is not fair. It's not fair to Brad. Sorry, Brad. You could come on here. You decided not to. So we know what side of the football you're playing on. But that's not the point. The point is the manipulation of featuring. This is supposed to be a poll. You know, what's polling supposed to be? It's supposed to help us, we the people, understand what's going on. We should send these polls to Mark Mitchell and have him give it a critique. He'd come back and he'd say, this is not a poll. This is manipulation. And if you want to be manipulated by your leadership, stay home. They're happy that you stay home because then they just can keep manipulating everything. What are they manipulating? Your energy? They're stealing it from you. They're vampires. We're victims. They're vampires until they prove me different. Now, I want to talk a little bit about something that I find very interesting. I love history. And I love history because I want to know where I came from. And one of the things that. How much time in your grade school and secondary school education did you spend talking about the history of the Civil War? Oh, excuse me. The Revolutionary War.

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

Revolutionary War. I can't really remember. We didn't talk about it in college. I can't really remember in middle school. I know we talked about in middle school.

[David Penn (Host)]

I think we're going to take an ongoing deep dive into the Revolutionary War because look where we're at. What is in common. We don't have a country anymore, right? I mean, our borders have been opened. We don't even know what an American is. We don't even know what it is to be an American. Look at the argument. We're not arguing if the tax policy should be. It used to be like this. Ah, I want a tax at 26%. I'm a Republican. Well, I'm a Democrat. I want 28. That was the argument for most of my life. A couple of points here and there. And then somewhere along the line, whoa, the gap widened. And that's what it was in the 1770s. You know, there was about 20% of the people in the country that wanted freedom. Maybe 30%. There was about 30% that wanted to stay allied with who? The British Empire, A globalized empire or personal benefits. And everybody in between. Hey, they didn't want to get involved because it was dangerous and the war broke out. And I want to talk about one person, and I bet you never heard of him. Have you ever heard of Charles Lee?

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

No.

[David Penn (Host)]

Charles Lee, man, this guy is worthy of your study. And I'm just thinking about this in terms of Andy Bream saying that Royce White's unfit. You know what, Andy? As I said, you're unfit. I'm just going to come right back at you. You're unfit. But of course, he's a columnist for the Star Tribune, which kind of makes us know who he is. Because if I applied for that job, and I probably write better than Andy, I probably couldn't get the job. Probably couldn't get it because I have principles. Now, Charles Lee. Charles Lee was actually born in the old country. Charles Lee was born into a important family. I don't have to get into the British monarchy. But his mother was a maid woman in the Mafia there. And I found it so interesting because I'd known this, but I hadn't thought about it for a long time. When Charles Lee got educated, Was educated. He got educated. You could buy your commission. See, they had this working really good, the British. If you wanted to be a lieutenant in the British military, you had to buy your commission. It was a franchise for the government because, see, if you became involved in the army and then you worked your way up and you bought your commitment, you bought your lieutenant, you know, you bought your captaincy, you bought your colonel. You know, someday they might reward you with lance because it was a colonial empire. So if you went off to jolly old wherever and you performed adequately, they may say, oh, for your great service, we will bequeath you 30,000 acres of Pennsylvania. Isn't that great?

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

Yeah.

[David Penn (Host)]

So you had to buy in. It wasn't for free. And, you know, when you had that for a reward, you didn't have to draft people. Everybody wanted to get in on it, because what is a colonial enterprise, It's a rape and pillage strategy of mercantilistic economy. But Charles Lee came over here. He fought in the Seven Years War. That was a. A war that preceded the Revolutionary War, also known as the French and Indian War. You know, the French had action up in Canada, and the British said, nah, we're not going to take that from you. And they did very successfully, performed very wonderfully. Was a hero. A hero. And he was fighting for who? The British? He was a British military officer, highly skilled. And you know what was great about this? And this is why I'm talking about this. We can't get people. I. And I say this because I know it. I can't get people to come with me. I'm going to St. Paul tonight, okay? I mean, I can't get people to go with me to the Twin Cities. They won't go into the cities. I mean, if you're in a 70% red district, hey, you don't have to do anything up there. A can ham with an R after their name is going to get elected. Could you come help us down here? And if we could get 10 or 15% of the urban voters to start paying attention, we win. Hey, we win. But the party's not doing that. Why? It's a question. Don't know the answer to that question, but remember, Laverne said no one shows up.

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

Yep. Not enough presence of Republicans.

[David Penn (Host)]

Not enough. How about a presence? Yeah, there's no. Right now, the presence is me as far as I can see. And if you don't like that, you're Sean Holster and his wife Diane. And you want to come on the show and tell me all the great things you're doing down there, I'd love to highlight your efforts, elevate you. You know, Sean. Sean the anti Semite.

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

I don't know Sean.

[David Penn (Host)]

I do. Anyhow, this Charles Lee, the point I'm bringing out here, this man was courageous. And when I say courageous, I mean this guy went. He fought in Poland, he fought in North America. This guy bought a commission. He was into it. You know, back in those days, they did something we don't do anymore. He actually engaged in gun duels to the death. He had a duel, killed the guy, pulled his gun out just like in the movie, shot him dead. Another time, he had a duel. He was shot in the side. He was wounded. He wasn't killed. And he got up and he wanted to pull the trigger again, and everybody said, no, no mask, wouldn't let him do it. One time he was in duelist, his fingers got shot off, Killed that guy, too.

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

Wow.

[David Penn (Host)]

I mean, this is courage, right? I mean, think about it. There really isn't very good medicine in these days and times. If you want to get to the new world. You didn't hop on a triple seven and fly over in five hours. You got on a boat. Just getting. There was a question mark, right? Yeah. So Charles Lee got over here and he decided that he wanted to throw in with the Patriots. At least that's what we all thought. But I'm going to give you the punchline about this dude first, just to let you know how complicated people are when they're brave. Because this is the thing I want to bring out. This is the point I want to bring out. And I say this to all the elected officials that you think I'm grinding on you. I'm only grinding on you to bring forth your courage. Because people wax and win in their lives. They stand up, they sit down, they fall down, they get up. Just because you're a uni Party shield today, as Charles Lee was working for the British as a military officer, seeing whatever he could steal doesn't mean that he couldn't flip and join the Patriots. See, I'm not judging against you people. It's your actions today that matter. This is an important idea. In times like this, we have to give people the opportunity to change. Only judge against those who are absolutely unrepentant in their evil. But the process of Republicanism is a process of redemption. And I'm saying I'm talking to people. I know you don't like me. I'm saying, please change. We need unity around the ideas of Republicanism. Listen, learn. Get a book out again. Let's rediscover what we're doing here. Charles Lee risked his life all over the world. He came here. He got some lands. He did.

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

So he got what he wanted.

[David Penn (Host)]

He bought in. He got 3,000 acres. Probably got it on a deal. And he joined. He threw in with the Patriots. But let me give you the Punchline first. Some 50 years after the dude died, the diet, the guy died. And. No, it's even more than that. It's 70 years. He died in 1782, Charles Lee. And in the 1850s, there was a librarian. I want you to get this through your head. Now. Here's a guy fighting duels, right? Selling himself into the empire's colonial enterprise, killing people all over the world. This guy was so out there that during the French and Indian wars, he married the daughter of a Mohawk chieftain and had twins with her. Now, you gotta be out there. That'd be like Professor Penn marrying the daughter of a Hamas leader. I mean, this is out there, man. This guy was a baller to the max. But here's what happened. He became a great competitor with George Washington. And that was not cool, because George Washington is he. Maybe it possibly wasn't even who we think he is because we got a story about him, we really weren't there to see who he was. And Charles Lee thought George Washington was incompetent. So in the 50s, after this man who fought duels and went all over the world and was a military man and was baller enough to marry the daughter of a Mohawk chief, a librarian, an educated man. A librarian. A librarian. Library. A professor discovered a manuscript dated 29th March, 1777. 1777, when Charles Lee was a British prisoner of war, he was actually, he was actually fighting for the Patriots and the British captured him. And that letter was addressed allegedly to the royal commissioners. These were the British naval and army commanders in North America at that time. And the letter detailed a plan by which the British might defeat a rebellion. Moore's discovery, this librarian's discovery was presented in a paper titled the Treason of Charles Lee in 1858. And it wiped this guy out. You never heard of him, never heard of him, but actually he was the number two guy in the Continental Army. He actually was going for the number one spot. But because he was born in Britain, the powers that be said, no, we want a native born son. Give us George Washington. And they put another guy as second command. He got sick. Charles Lee was 30, ended up second command. And he and Washington did not get along at all. And there was a big battle where everything went to hell. And the Patriots got defeated. And Charles Lee, Charles Lee got hung with why the battle went bad. And he said, no, it wasn't me, it was Washington. And these, they're all blaming each other. Well, George Washington was very, very powerful. It was the Battle of Monmouth. And after the battle, well, guess what happened. Charles Lee was court martialed by General Washington. So you see who these people are and how they come and go and change. We only know what history tells us. Lee expected praise for a retreat that he believed had been generally conducted in good order. And Lee was uncharacteristically lost for words when General Washington and asked without pleasantries, quote, and who knows if he actually said this? I mean, this is 1776, right? I wonder if somebody was there with a microphone.

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

Yeah.

[David Penn (Host)]

I desire to know, sir, what is the reason whence arises this disorder and confusion? When Lee regained his composure, he attempted to explain his actions. He blamed faulty intelligence and his officers for pulling back without orders, leaving him no choice but to retreat in the face of a superior force. And reminded Washington that Lee had opposed Washington orders in the first place. Washington was not convinced. His quote, all this may be very true, sir, but you ought not to have undertaken it unless you intended to go through with it. And they devolved into an argument. And Washington had him court martialed on three charges. And the charges were very serious. Treason. Well, what ended up happening was at the end of the day, two of the charges were kind of dubious. The only charge that really stuck was that Lee was guilty of disrespecting Washington, got convicted for that. But his sense was so lenient. It was kind of determined to be a vindication of Lee. And Lee just stood out there after that event into the 1850s as this towering historical figure in American history. And some librarian showed up and told a story about him which may or may not be true. I'm not there. I don't know. I don't know if he wrote that letter. And now you never heard of Charles Lee? No. Such is history. What is my point in going through this? People do all kinds of things in their lives, for good and for bad. I really don't care what your history is, and I don't care what vote you took last year. I care what vote you take tomorrow. I care what you do today. So if Lisa DeMuth ends up being a patriot, God bless her. We got to stand these people up. They need our courage for them to have courage, because right now, they got no cover. So as long as we don't participate in politics, they're professionals. They're gonna go for the hoop, they're gonna go for the money. Let's listen to number eight.

[Activist/Protester]

My kids have not ate in five days. It is the taxpayer's responsibility to take care of my kids. Trump done cut them full stamps off. If you're poor, don't have kids.

[David Penn (Host)]

Okay. If you're struggling, don't have kids. Don't bring more in.

[Activist/Protester]

If you already have them, that's another situation. If you don't have them, don't bring any in. And if you have two, don't go having another one. If you have one, don't go having two more. So they say 2 million is getting cut off this month for the scam. I'm about to go find out if I'm in that. In that number, in that. In that. In that ratio. It's been day four, and I have not received no food stamps. My disability checks is on hold. My cash.

[David Penn (Host)]

Well, these people seem angry, don't they? Let's play number seven and stop it at 137. I don't know how it will play out in November, but what we know is that we will end up with many more unemployed, and particularly also people.

[Political Commentator/Guest]

In the grey economy which are not.

[David Penn (Host)]

Counted for, who lose their jobs. So we will see definitively a lot of anger already now, but probably increase by the end of the year because this crisis will be with us until we really have found remedy. So we have to prepare for a more angry world.

[Political Commentator/Guest]

And how to prepare it means to.

[David Penn (Host)]

Take the necessary action to create a fairer world to see that we provide everybody with decent access to the health system, that we make sure that those people who are really left behind.

[Political Commentator/Guest]

And I'm not speaking only on national levels.

[David Penn (Host)]

I'm speaking also internationally. We on focus.

[Political Commentator/Guest]

I see now the tragedy in some.

[David Penn (Host)]

Of the emerging countries like South Africa. This is Klaus Schwab. He is not a Republican. He's saying we're going to have an angrier world. This is policy. Why this is going down. Policy. How are we going to solve it? Worldwide communism. And look at the progress they're making with Mandami. Okay, President Roosevelt said, if it happens in politics, it happens for a reason. So let's recognize that our collective efforts is leading to the end of the republic. What is the antidote? Political organization, Political participation. Political having it out with the folks that don't see this for whatever reason. They could be on the payroll, they could be stupid, they could be old. I don't know why they can't see it. Are we making a compelling case for this today about what's going on? We're bringing the receipts. And yet I get a letter from Alex Plecish this week. When our energy and our focus are aimed at winning and not fighting each other, that's what we need. That's what makes our party strong. Let me be clear. Infighting and public squabbles do not win elections. Every minute spent arguing internally is a minute. We are not talking to voters, not raising resources and not advancing our message. Well, I'm going to tell you right now, Alex, many times in human history, groups have been allied with each other in opposition to another force and they don't like each other. We can work together and have this intra party conversation and have it out and there will be a winner and there will be a loser in the end. We're not going away. We have a young, vibrant movement. Have any of you in the delegate body of Minnesota GOP taken the time to listen to Nick Fuentes for an hour or two? Because I suggest you do. He's easy to find. He's number one with a bullet. They're not listening to us, the party participants. I'm talking about the young people. And they go, oh, we've got the young Republicans. You know what they're going to lose? All those people. Nick Fuentes too?

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

Yep.

[David Penn (Host)]

Okay, so here's the deal. You got to know what's going on. If we don't have this argument in our party and sort this out and figure out what it is to be a Republican, that's Dedicated to the common good. You're going to get Nick Fuentes on the right and Zoran Mandami on the left. And you in the center. You're going to get clipped because neither one of these two groups like you. So we have to expand what we're doing and make a decision about what kind of politics we're going to pursue. Are we going to have a politic that is about human well being, sharing the common good amongst all of our citizens, about being authentic and honest? And I don't want to hear anything about Donald Trump. I can't change Donald Trump. I can't change him. I can comment on his policies, can't change him. Now, my friend Rob Zakheim, always talking about national, international issues. Hey, guess what? I don't answer Rob because I have no influence on it. I just answer him back. I'm organizing my neighborhood. Of course, he's an officer of the Republican Party. He's never knocked on a door. You know, if you're in the party and you're not evangelizing, if you're not proselytizing, if you're not a salesman, you better be writing checks. And we could use your help here at Free People Radio. What a great segue. Forgot all about Tiregate yet again. What we're going to do with Tiregate is Tanner's going to start putting in 15 second spots because I'm completely unhooked from the money it takes to come to you like this several times a week. I don't think about it. And we need your support. So what's great about Tiregate is the price is right. I guarantee it. I know the tire business, the service is right. I guarantee it. I guarantee my work. And you'll have the satisfaction of knowing that when you buy your tires for fall and now's the time to get new tires because winter's right around the corner. You're going to be funding a movement of citizens that are organizing every precinct in this state. And if you're listening to me someplace in Minnesota and you'd like to be part of this process, I am not hard to get a hold of. You can go right into the YouTube chat. I'll respond to you. You can go to supportarget.com that's supportarget.com send me an email. That's what Laura did. We got to get organized, join the digital army. Minnesota Speaks is a great meeting on Thursday nights. Let's get thousands in there. Dan Schultz, Friday night, 8:00pm Central. Dan Schultz, number two National Precinct Strategy get together. How do we get involved in politics? We have to get going. There's no time for entertainment right now. We just saw the financial capital of the world elect a communist. Why? The disparity between the wealth and the poor is too great. That always leads to revolution. Come on, that's not what this country is about. It's been made stupid on purpose. It's been made jealous on purpose. It's been made godless on purpose. All we got to do is change that. And guess what? If we do it, you'll find God is on your side. Thanks very much for joining. It's Thursday.

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

It is Thursday.

[David Penn (Host)]

We'll see you next week. Have a great weekend. Relax. Be well. But start organizing. You know, I got meetings all weekend. I'm going out with a elected politician on Friday, meeting a potential guest to come on the show Saturday.

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

Nice.

[David Penn (Host)]

I mean, I'm working all the time. Why do you think I have nothing else to do? Let me tell you. I play the violin. I play the piano. I'm a very, very high end athlete. I own multiple businesses. I have five kids. I live with a beautiful family woman who, you know, it's not so happy. I'm never home. I'm sacrificing a lot because I believe in the Republic of the United States of America. And I hope you will find the courage and the energy to join millions of people in this country who are going to work together and win or lose, we're going to give it all we got to save freedom here in the United States. Thanks very much. Have a great weekend.

[Tanner (Co-host/Assistant)]

Have a good night everybody.

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[David Penn (Host)]

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