ERIC METAXAS ON REDEDICATE 250, ELI STEELE ON RACIAL FEAR | THE CHARLIE KIRK SHOW

Summary

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EPISODE SUMMARY

Podcast: Real America’s Voice
Show: The Charlie Kirk Show
Episode: Eric Metaxas on Rededicate 250, Eli Steele on Racial Fear
Date: May 18, 2026
Guests: Eric Metaxas, Alex Marlowe, Eli Steele

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Overview

This episode, hosted by the ever-outspoken Charlie Kirk, unfolds at the intersection of America’s past, present, and future. The central theme: grappling with the nation’s Founding principles in the midst of political and racial turmoil. The episode features extensive discussions of the "Rededicate 250" event on the National Mall (a renewed dedication of the nation to God at the republic's 250th anniversary), the ongoing culture war around faith, race, and law, heated primary politics (notably in Louisiana and Kentucky), and America’s spiraling racial discourse, as analyzed by prominent guests Eric Metaxas and Eli Steele.

The episode’s conversations are punctuated with concern for the upcoming midterms, legal nuances in a high-profile murder trial, and the persistent dilemmas facing Trump-era conservatives. Listeners are challenged to consider what truly makes America “great.”

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Key Sections & Discussion Points

1. Rededicate 250: Faith, the Founding, and National Renewal

(Starts ~38:19, intensifies 43:00–46:33)

• Charlie Kirk and Eric Metaxas discuss the "Rededicate 250" Event on the National Mall:

  • Marking 250 years since the nation's founders called for "a day of humility, fasting, and prayer" as they prepared for independence (05:39).
  • J.D. Vance gave remarks on America's Christian foundations, quoting Kirk and invoking John Adams.
    • Quote (J.D. Vance):
      “Our system of justice, our generosity to neighbors, our respect for conscience, and the moral discipline necessary for liberty itself… as my dear friend, the late, great Charlie Kirk put it, all law reflects a morality. Neither law nor morality appears in a vacuum, but ultimately come from religion.” (07:09)
  • Metaxas’ Perspective:
    • Stresses that the Founders’ vision was explicitly Christian but tolerant:
      Quote:
      “They believe in religious liberty because we believe freedom comes out of the Bible... What made America great in the first place—that is what made America great in the first place.” (43:00–45:15)
    • The day was historic because top government leaders, including the President and Speaker of the House, rededicated the nation to the God of the Bible.

• Modern America’s “Constitutional Crisis”:

  • Kirk and Metaxas reflect that America’s current struggles stem from a mismatch between a Christian founding document and an increasingly secular, less Christian populace.
    • Quote (Charlie Kirk):
      “The reason we have a constitutional crisis today is because we have a Christian document and our people are less and less Christian—and those become incompatible.” (47:32)
  • The ritual of rededication is seen as spiritually and practically necessary for the endurance of American institutions.

Notable Moment:

• Media Blowup over Eric Metaxas' “Ballroom” Joke
  • The left-leaning press misconstrues Metaxas' offhand joke about Trump "bringing the ballroom where it needs to stand," treating it as prophecy rather than satire.
  • Metaxas:
    “Any fool listening to my speech up to that point knows this is just a dumb joke meant to get a laugh… They cannot get the joke. They are so enraged by President Trump that they have to attack. It’s almost unbelievable.” (56:59)
  • The incident humorously boosts Metaxas’ new book sales.

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2. Primary Politics and Party Dynamics

(Begins ~69:06–88:33)

• Louisiana Senate Primary

  • Incumbent Senator Bill Cassidy loses in a rare intra-party upset.
  • Alex Marlowe:
    “He was right out there, front and center, grandstanding against President Trump after all the J6 stuff… If you’re going to throw down against President Trump over nonsense mainstream media hokum… then we’re going to vote you out.” (70:53)

• Kentucky's Thomas Massie Showdown

  • A razor-thin primary between renegade Republican Thomas Massie and his establishment-backed challenger.
  • Debate focuses on Massie’s “independent streak” and his contentious votes, including opposition to key Trump initiatives and his posture on the Epstein files.
  • J.D. Vance:
    “Being independent, having your own opinions is one thing. Voting against the party on every single issue, you’re eventually going to make too many enemies. And that is the problem that Thomas has had.” (76:45)
  • Split reactions from listeners: some praise Massie’s principled contrarianism and antiwar, anti-spending stance; others echo concern for GOP unity in a precarious political era.

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3. Race, Fear, and America’s Greatest Dysfunction (with Eli Steele)

(Main segment: 97:24–106:52)

• Eli Steele Unpacks America’s “Racial Fear”

  • Distinction between collective guilt and individual empathy as the engine of contemporary racial discourse.
    • Steele:
      “There was a collective judgment from the outside on white America... And they said, okay, how do I achieve innocence? How do I achieve moral authority?” (98:38)
  • The Civil Rights movement exposed the gap between the Founding’s ideals and lived reality, resulting in a form of collective white guilt—later weaponized politically.
  • The phenomenon is not strictly American; similar “white guilt” and anti-colonial guilt are visible across Western Europe.
  • Steele:
    “If we do become tribal then we will have to reinvent America somewhere else.” (105:55)
  • Both functionally and philosophically, American society’s drift toward pre-biblical, collective guilt is an “anti-American principle” that erodes individualism and rational debate.

• Kirk’s Analysis:

  • Racism has become America’s “chief sin”—beyond murder or other crimes.
  • “Paralyzing fear” now prevents honest discussions on topics like crime, education, and family breakdown, and is cynically used as a political cudgel (102:20).

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4. Current Events, Legal Updates, and Domestic Turmoil

(Includes segments at 10:05–17:03, legal updates at 11:48–15:38, Iran updates 24:04–28:33)

• Luigi Mangione Trial Update

  • Legal minutiae: contents of suspect's backpack are partially suppressed due to improper search; gun and manifesto/diary will be admissible.
  • Kirk and Blake express frustration with the “gray area” legal standard, tying this to larger cultural and moral breakdown.

• Iran War and International Politics

  • Pressure mounts for the Trump administration as the Iran blockade strains global oil markets and risks political fallout ahead of the midterms.
    • Kirk:
      “At some point, there’s really only two options left on the table. Either you decide to hit them hard again militarily… Or… declare victory and get out.” (26:04)
  • Political analysis: protracted war is both a foreign and domestic liability, impacting gas prices and thus midterm prospects.

• Voting Rights Act & Racial Politics

  • The left bets big on the narrative of Republican “racist gerrymandering” after the Supreme Court curtails the Voting Rights Act’s Section 2, with expectations this will mobilize minorities in the midterms.
  • Alex Marlowe:
    “Democrats really do think this is going to be motivational in terms of voting…” (87:05)
  • Kirk and guests argue that accusations of racism, while overplayed, still damage the political climate and debate.

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5. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Eric Metaxas (on the Founders):
  “We need to go back to the founding. We need to go back to how did we get to be a nation where we govern ourselves? It comes from looking directly to God.” (39:44)

• J.D. Vance (on Law and Morality):
  “Neither law nor morality appears in a vacuum, but ultimately come from religion.” (07:17)

• Charlie Kirk (on the media and humor):
  “They are hall monitors. They are the fun police... They’re like puritanical secularists.” (53:00)

• Eli Steele (on racial fear):
  “We are a nation of individuals... The whole boundary principles are all around protection of the individual and what the—let's call them bad actors—saw an opportunity for in the 1960s, is that white America is guilty. That’s our power.” (104:15)

• Alex Marlowe (on Democrat strategy):
  “Democrats have basically staked their entire political fortunes on calling Republicans racist after the Supreme Court ruling gutted Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act... Iran and racism from the left. How are you looking at all this?” (86:33)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Rededicate 250/Christian Foundations Discussion: 05:39, 07:17, 38:44–47:32
• Metaxas’ Ballroom Joke/Media Clip: 53:00–58:33
• Cassidy & Massie Primaries (with Alex Marlowe): 69:06–88:33
• Race & White Guilt with Eli Steele: 97:24–106:52
• Mangione Legal Ruling: 11:48–17:03
• Iran War Update: 24:04–28:33

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Episode Tone & Language

• The panel speaks with a sense of urgency, frankness, and evangelical conviction.
• There is a marked distrust of mainstream media and legal institutions (“shrill Democrats,” “fun police,” “broken, raw, immoral law”).
• The language is unapologetically anti-progressive, pro-religion, and focused on restoring “original” American values.

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Final Thoughts

For listeners, this episode is emblematic of today’s right-of-center political-media ecosystem—vibrant, adversarial, deeply committed to Western and Christian civilizational principles, and preoccupied with both the real-time battles (primaries, legal cases, scandals) and the deeper culture war over America’s soul. Through lively debates and notable guests, the show calls its audience to “rededicate” themselves, politically and spiritually, to the values of the nation’s founding.

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Prepared as a comprehensive guide for those who missed the episode yet want to understand its full scope, arguments, and color.

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But we know that this is a racist Supreme Court. We know that the President of the

[Charlie Kirk]

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[Terrence Bates]

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Eric Metaxas]

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the communities who fight for democracy in this country.

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It's hard to believe that it would take two centuries for the Lord to raise up a great man, to bring that ballroom finally to stand where it needs to stand. It's extraordinary. We only had to wait 200 years.

[Charlie Kirk]

250 years ago. Today, on May 17, 1776, the Second

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Continental Congress called for a day of

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humility, fasting, and prayer just weeks before they declared independence.

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Our Founders didn't stride forward in pride.

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They knelt. They asked for God's mercy. They asked for his guidance because they knew that the cause before them was beyond their own strength. Now, today, exactly 250 years later, we gather here on the National Mall to do the same, to give thanks, to ask for forgiveness, and to humbly ask once more for God's mercy and guidance as we enter the next 250 years of this republic.

[J.D. Vance]

It was obvious to the Founders that our faith was the ground upon which America stands. It was our very foundation as a people. And if this foundation were to crumble, so too would the very values that make us Americans. From our religious inheritance comes many of the virtues and institutions we most cherish as a people, our system of justice, our generosity to neighbors, our respect for conscience, and the moral discipline necessary for liberty itself. As my dear friend, the late, great Charlie Kirk put it, all law reflects a morality. Neither law nor morality appears in a vacuum, but ultimately come from religion. And the morality and religion that formed the American consciousness were decidedly Christian, founded upon the principles and the divinity of Jesus Christ.

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Here we go. All right. Welcome to the charlie kirk show. It is Monday, May 18, 2026. We are in the Phoenix y refi studios. Honored to be with you all. From sea to shiny sea. How you doing, Blake?

[Blake]

I mean, I still don't have my microphone.

[Charlie Kirk]

We're working on it, man. So we're working on it.

[Blake]

We've been working on it for several weeks. How long does it take to make one of those?

[Charlie Kirk]

All the guys over at y revi will figure it out. I'm told it's coming. This was a prototype, but it looks gorgeous here at the y refi studios. Lots to get into. Hope you guys had a great weekend. I know. I actually relaxed a little bit. It was truly, truly amazing. I don't know. I asked you how your weekend was and Blake, in customary fashion, said it was fine. That's about all I got out of blake. All right, so breaking news that we want to get to here. Lots to cover this morning. We've got Eric Metaxas who was at the rededicate.250 at the half hour. Then we got Alex Marlowe from breitbart. We're going to talk politics and primaries and all that stuff. We got massey. We got Cassidy. Lots going on there. And then Eli Steele, the son of the great Shelby Steele, talking about race, race relations, what's really behind all of Our dysfunction. So a packed show. We've got some Iran news to get to, of course, repeatedly. But Luigi Mangione is back in the news this morning. Obviously that's a topic that strikes near and dear to our heart here on the Charlie Kirk Show. Luigi Mangione in a big way contributed to this rise of assassination culture. It's something that Charlie was very worried about. And just this morning, Judge Caro, who's overseeing the state case here, has ruled that the backpack that was next to Luigi mangione in the McDonald's where he was arrested. So he's sitting at a table, there's a back backpack either on a table adjacent to him or on the floor. And they have. It has been ruled that the contents of that backpack are inadmissible.

[Blake]

That includes.

[Charlie Kirk]

They will be self pressed. Yes.

[Blake]

Cell phone, his passport, magazine. Is it a gun? Magazine.

[Charlie Kirk]

Bullet magazine.

[Blake]

Bullet magazine. Wallet and computer chip.

[Charlie Kirk]

Computer chip. I'm not sure what the computer chip is here. Let's go ahead and play that scene from inside the courtroom. SOT13 I find that the search of the backpack at the McDonald's was improper

[Terrence Bates]

warrantless search, that the backpack was not within the immediate control or grabbable area of the defendant. And further, the people failed to demonstrate exigent circumstances.

[Charlie Kirk]

Therefore, those items found in the backpack

[Terrence Bates]

during the search at the McDonald's will be suppressed.

[Charlie Kirk]

However, the people have established that the

[Terrence Bates]

subsequent search of the backpack at the

[Charlie Kirk]

station was a valid inventory search and therefore the items recovered at the station

[Alex Marlowe]

will not be suppressed.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right, so the items recovered at the station include the gun, which is key obviously here. But just to go into this rule, because I had to look it up when this ruling came through, no, it is typically not illegal to search a suspect's backpack when they have been apprehended under the search incident to a lawful arrest exception to the fourth Amendment. Meaning that for the officer safety, if the backpack is in or around the person that's been arrested, the suspect in this case, then the immediate association with the suspect that's been lawfully apprehended is then fair game. They should be able to search that. There is, however, some exceptions. So if the suspect is in the car and like the police car in the back, he's handcuffed and they haven't searched the backpack yet, they may need to get a warrant for that. So this looks to be basically a gray area. My question for this judge would be what was to say that there wasn't a bomb inside that backpack?

[Blake]

Yeah, it's very Strange, you could hear it in the clip where he's saying essentially the backpack was basically, it sounds like too far away from Luigi when they detained him. What's the distance he were holding the backpack? They could have searched it, but I guess it was maybe on the other side of the table or the cops could get between him. It sounds very, very ticky tack either way.

[Charlie Kirk]

Very ticky tack. So just so you know, the idea of a backpack or a possession being in the immediate association or vicinity of a suspect, this includes clothing, wallets, purses and backpacks that the person is wearing, carrying or had in their immediate possession. The justification is off to officer safety. Are there any weapons? And preserving evidence. So if the backpack is separated from the suspect as the suspect is being secured, handcuffed in a patrol car, under control with no realistic access, some courts like the 4th Circuit have provided the reasoning that may require a warrant or other justification, treating it more like a container as opposed to part of the person. So that's obviously what the judge has ruled here. Apparently body cam footage was used in this hearing to come to this ruling. Very, very frustrating though, because obviously they had probable cause, they checked his ID, they arrested him at the McDonald's, the backpack was on the floor or on the table. So two questions then immediately come to mind. What is the distance away from the suspect that it all of a sudden becomes a warranted search? And by the way, again, what if there was a bomb in the backpack? This feels absolutely like the judge is sympathetic to Luigi Maggione, a cold blooded murderer, an assassin.

[Blake]

Well, so, okay, on the flip side, we should emphasize, you see two different headlines and it kind of shows, I think, different perspectives of media outlets because some Fox, certainly they're leading with all of this evidence is getting suppressed. It's a big win. But other publications are emphasizing they are allowed to use his gun and they are allowed to use his diary. And I suspect that means they're allowed to use his manifesto, which is 260 pages or words approximately, saying basically he's motivated by how angry he is about the healthcare system. And that's pretty strong evidence overall. So I think we can be hopeful. There's still a lot here. What I will say is the uneasy feeling I've had, you've had, I think a lot of people have had is it seems like every couple months we get a new development and it's always away from what we want. So first they're going to seek the death penalty with him. Now they can't seek the death penalty for Whatever reason. And now they're suppressing some evidence. Maybe next time other evidence is going to get suppressed. It's always one little development after another in favor of this guy who we should remind everyone, heinously murdered, it seems a stranger in cold blood. A father because he was angry about the industry the man worked in which the man did not create. The man did not really perpetuate. He was just a CEO of a health insurance company. And by the way guys, I'll have you know, health insurance is not the reason US health care is expensive.

[Charlie Kirk]

No. Well, this is the thing. So Big Pharma is watching this whole show trial go on and they're overjoyed. Right? That was an observation that Walter Kern made and I agree with it. And basically it's a giant distraction from the fact that this man is a cold blooded killer who is sparking this rise in assassination culture. We'll let Charlie take it away here sat 16. Look, you have two options. You can go MAGA or Magionism.

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[Blake]

I mean, it's. In a lot of ways, it's that dynamic where they might be vastly weaker, but they also care vastly more. There was a line, Ho Chi Minh, who was the leader of North Vietnam, and supposedly he had a line that says, you can kill 100 of my guys for every one of kill, I kill of yours, but still, I am going to win and you're going to lose because I am just that much more fanatical about it. And so, yeah, their economy is vastly worse than ours. They've taken vastly more losses than us. But their thought, I mean, they're not, they're not a democracy. They don't have to worry about a midterm election. They don't have to worry about a Congress getting in the way. They can just say, we'll make our country suffer as much as it takes to drag this out.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, and here's the thing. At some point, there's really only two options left on the table. Either you decide to hit them hard again militarily, and you start taking out additional targets and you accelerate the kinetic activity in the region. You break the peace. Fire, and you make them cry uncle that way. Or at least attempt to. I'm not sure you can is essentially where we're at militarily, but that would be one way. You know, China has said that they are going to stop supplying anything to Iran based on that last meeting with President Xi and President Trump. However, they'll say a lot of things publicly, whether they'll follow through on anything. We're still struggling to get China to follow through buying our soybeans, for goodness sakes. So that's a whole question. They said they were going to buy 500 Boeing planes. They've only bought 200, so on and so forth. This is the way that the Chinese work. So getting them to follow through with anything. We're also seeing reports that there is actual caravans going overland to get through the sea blockade through, you know, about a dozen different countries from China over to Iran. So we know that they're still supplying them with something. Right. The regime is desperate. They'll use other means. And those caravans have been ramping up. All right, so the question then is, can you simply declare victory, say, hey, we got what we could. We tried our best. We destroyed their military installations, we destroyed their nuclear capacity. Yeah, we'd love to have the. We'd love to have the nuclear dust. We'd love to have all the uranium out of there. Even President Trump said they basically, it would be very difficult for them to get that out. It would take a very, very long time. It's a question of whether or not they could get the nuclear dust out or not. But he said, I would feel better getting it. Okay, well, you would feel better, but it's not necessarily a must have. Maybe. All right, so can you just declare victory and get out? Can we just say, hey, listen, it's up to the Iranian people now. We declare victory. Everything is copacetic as far as we're concerned. We did a good thing. We're out. If you, if you push us again, we'll be back. But don't push us.

[Blake]

Well, the downside there is Iran has also shown they're willing to push it a little bit. And if they say, okay, well, we're going to go back to putting a toll on the straits, we're still going to close the strait.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. Or you just, I guess option three would be status quo. You just keep the blockade up. But I'm telling you, the economic impact of that, a toll on a huge container of oil is one thing. Yeah. It drives up the price a little bit, maybe like a dollar a barrel. But could you absorb it globally? Probably. Right. So it's not ideal. But even the Chinese don't want that. So my point is, could you domestically, and here's the concern. If the audience is wondering why I'm concerned domestically, this is having political ramifications. I am thinking about the midterms and we want to win the midterms. There is a very good chance based on redistricting, based on the Supreme Court decision that we would be closer in the midterms than we thought, even with all the political headwinds, even given the economic or sorry, the historic precedent of you usually lose seats during a midterm race when you're the incumbent power. So the question is, can we, when you got essentially what's left, like depending on whose math you're using, 11 to 14, toss up seats, can you win half of those? Can you do that and retain control of the House? These are really, really important questions for the next two years of the Trump administration. Can you avoid impeachments? Can you avoid the House getting bogged down in constant investigations, chasing the tail, mainstream news media, legacy media, going crazy with every new thing that they come out that Tamu Obama comes out with, can we avoid that fate? And I believe that a big chunk of that is what is the price of the pump? What is going on in Iran? Desperately. I am one of those people that I want to see this wrapped up sooner than later.

[Blake]

We said at the outset that this was something that the base had voted for, but if it ended in a few weeks, even if they were annoyed, they would get over it. But now those several weeks have passed. We're two and a half months into it at this point. And if this is still going in the midterms or when the midterms arrive, we should just be frank. I think it will be very bad for the party.

[Charlie Kirk]

It'll be very bad. But we're holding out hope that there is a resolution in sight. I just don't see it yet. Eric Metaxas joins us next. We'll be right back.

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[Eric Metaxas]

I have been great. Praise God. As you know, I'm in the swamp today. I'm in Washington. See, as I was here yesterday, I know you're going to talk about it. I'm laughing before we even begin.

[Charlie Kirk]

I mean, we could get to. So, all right, let's just get to it. I mean, but there's so much good to talk about that. This. This. The way that they parsed your joke is hilarious. Okay, so wait. First, let's just start.

[Blake]

The press is bad. They mangled a joke.

[Charlie Kirk]

They screwed up breaking news.

[Eric Metaxas]

We. We should. Let's talk about the serious part first.

[Charlie Kirk]

All right, let's do that.

[Eric Metaxas]

Get to the funny thing. It'll. It. We will never stop. It's the. It's so funny. And it will. It will. It will keep people listening because you will not believe what we're gonna share. But go ahead.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's so ridiculous. Anyways, I'm gonna play. First of all, rededicate 250. This was an opportunity to rededicate our nation. To prayer, to God, to worshiping the Lord. Basically re articulating what the founders believed. Right? And what the founding of our nation was. Christian. It was. And J.D. vance did a great job. He gave a shout out to Charlie when he did it. And so I'll start there Sat 1.

[J.D. Vance]

It was obvious to the founders that our faith was the ground upon which America stands. It was our very foundation as a people. And if this foundation were to crumble, so too would the very values that make us Americans from our Religious inheritance comes many of the virtues and institutions we most cherish as a people. Our system of justice, our generosity to nation, our respect for conscience, and the moral discipline necessary for liberty itself. As my dear friend, the late, great Charlie Kirk put it, all law reflects a morality. Neither law nor morality appears in a vacuum, but ultimately come from religion. And the morality and religion that formed the American consciousness were decidedly Christian, founded upon the principles and the divinity of Jesus Christ.

[Charlie Kirk]

Pretty well said there, Eric.

[Eric Metaxas]

Yes. Listen. Yesterday was an historic moment in the history of this nation. This was a. An epochal moment. First of all, we have a president who declared on May 17, we are going to rededicate the nation to God. Nobody twisted his arm. He didn't have to do that, but he did it. And Yesterday, which was May 17, we officially, in many ways, rededicated the nation to God. This is a huge thing. And as you know, Andrew, because I showed you my new book, I mean, because I have written a book on the revolution which is coming out in a couple of weeks, I have done the research to see that there is no way that America comes into being apart from the revolutionaries, these great men looking directly to God. But we've been living in a time where secularists have pushed that away. Pushed that away. We need to go back to the founding. We need to go back to how did we get to be a nation where we govern ourselves? It comes from looking directly to God. They didn't get this in the French Revolution, which is why it went sideways in 10 minutes and turns into a bloodbath. Our revolutionaries, from John Adams on down, they understood we're going back to the Sinai covenant like the Israelites in the wilderness. We're going to govern ourselves because we look directly to God. And so yesterday was a great day on the National Mall. So many wonderful people were there. The president read from Second Chronicles, the famous passage. I mean, just an amazing moment in American history. And I believe as a result of what happened yesterday, we're gonna feel it, because that's a real thing. Really did this. And House speaker of the House Mike Johnson says we hereby. You know, it's like the government doesn't need to do this, but here we have the speaker of the House saying this. Officially, as a member of the United States government, we hereby rededicate the nation to the God of the Bible. It was a huge moment, and I was privileged to be one of the speakers. And I just. I can't say how happy I am that we did this. I expect to see things are going to happen because we have officially turned to God in the way we did yesterday.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, and that's so scriptural too, Eric. We wait on the Lord, you know, with expectation of him doing something in our midst, of him acting and moving in our country, in our politics, in our families. Right. And I totally agree with you that when we rededicate ourselves to the Lord, when we repent, when we cry out to him that he will heal our land, that he will bring righteousness in ways that we haven't seen maybe for a while, and I pray that that is so true. And when it's coming from the headship of the country, namely the political leaders that have been elected by we the people, I do believe that there is a powerful exchange that happens in the spiritual realms. We are not in a war against flesh and blood, but against powers and principalities. Things move when we pray and we rededicate ourselves to the Lord.

[Eric Metaxas]

Well, the important thing I think to say is that this is historical, or I should say we're being faithful to American history. This is not like a bunch of Christians got some crazy idea by doing this. And I write about this in my new book, Revolution. I didn't know this really until I did the research. It's not deniable that the men who rebelled against England and said, we're going to take up arms to defend our rights, our rights are given from God, they had a keen sense that this is what the Bible says. And we're doing this because this is what God says to do. So it was not a secular revolution like the French Revolution. They themselves understood this. And I write about it because I think most Americans are a little bit. We've forgotten how radically, explicitly Christian the revolution was. And now I have to be clear. This doesn't mean we impose our faith. And neither did George Washington or John Adams want to impose their faith in. They believe in freedom of religion. So if you want to be an atheist, if you want to be a Muslim, or you don't want to believe in anything, or you want to be an Agni, they said, the government's not going to force you. But where do we get this great idea of freedom of religion? We get it from the Bible. It comes out of the Reformation, is that religion cannot be forced. We are not radical Muslims that are going to convert people by the sword. We are not radical atheists that will throw you in prison. We believe in religious liberty because we believe freedom comes out of the Bible. All the founders quoted Deuteronomy more than any other book. So it is everywhere in our founding. And what we're doing is we're going back to the beginnings. We're saying, you know what, what makes America great again? We want to make America great again. What made America great in the first place. That is what made America great in the first place. Everybody needs to know that we can't be great again unless we know what made us great in the beginning. And I think of the 250th, the supercentennial year, this is the time for us to relearn what many of us, myself included, had forgotten or weren't so clear on.

[Blake]

I mean, as you guys have been saying, it really is of existential importance. For real. Charlie loved that line. John Adams, that our Constitution was for a moral and religious people and it was wholly inadequate to the government of any other. That's cited a lot just to say, oh, you know, this was a society founded on Christian belief and principle and it requires that to work. But we often glide past that second part that it's required for it to work. And I think about a lot of the stresses our system is under right now, where you especially have the left contemplating much more aggressive reaches beyond what I think our Constitution is supposed to have. Where they're talking, let's just 100% pack the Supreme Court. Let's create entire new states just to cling to power ourselves. Let's do mass amnesty for every illegal immigrant. And you can't help but think, okay, well, this is a, this is a political faction that has abandoned religion, loudly trumpets that it's abandoning religion. And as a result, they don't see merit to the endurance of this Constitution. They don't see as much of a problem with burning down things that have lasted for 250 years and been successful. It's all, blow it up now to get power. Right now. I just think of what John Adams said.

[Eric Metaxas]

We have to be clear. It is a betrayal of America. You can have a country, but it won't be the America that we've had for 250 years. If you don't understand the basics, if you don't understand that our rights come from God. I was interviewed by National Public Radio a couple days ago about this, and they were like, did you know that Pete Hegseth is going to speak and that he says that our rights come from God? And I was like, I don't think Pete Hegseth came up with that concept. I think it's, it's in, you know, it's in our founding documents, like that's the whole nation is based on that. So the fact that you have major journalists that are unaware of this is a staggering drift away from the basics. But that's kind of where we are right now. It's almost unbelievable. And that's why yesterday was so important. And you know, but the left, they've forgotten everything. They've forgotten how to laugh, they've gotten how to rejoice like it's.

[Charlie Kirk]

We'll get into that in many ways. We'll get into that in just a second. But one, one word here is that, you know that Charlie has that famous clip where he's talking about how all the 13 colonies had a statement of faith and even Maryland, which was Catholic, how the God is mentioned four times in the Declaration. It ends in a prayer to the supreme ruler, right? The ruler of the nations, which is Jesus Christ. I mean, it was so saturating the founding generation that it affected the way that they spoke, their turns of phrases, the way that they constructed the document itself, the Declaration and the Constitution. But people kind of missed the end where he says, the reason we have a constitutional crisis today is because we have a Christian document and our people are less and less Christian and those become incompatible. And that's the real, the real takeaway. We need revival in this land if we are going to see a reconstitution of the America that we've always known and loved. What's made it such a shining city on a hill and a beacon of freedom for the world over. So we need people to reconnect with Jesus, to meet Jesus. We need a rededication. And yesterday was historic for many reasons, but that specific we'll be right back.

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[Eric Metaxas]

This is one of the best ever.

[Charlie Kirk]

And they're writing hit pieces on you, the Daily Beast, MAGA pastor. Are you even a pastor, Eric? I don't know.

[Eric Metaxas]

I'm not even a pastor.

[Charlie Kirk]

Okay. That's right.

[Eric Metaxas]

Not that I'm aware of maga.

[Charlie Kirk]

They're so bad at the, like, Christian thing. They don't even know who the pastor is and who's not. MAGA Pastor makes bonkers claim about Trump's ballroom. Okay, Eric, I'm going to play the way they cut, by the way, on the left, like, lefty Twitter, Blue sky. You are famous today. Like, this thing has gone.

[Eric Metaxas]

Like, they're making. They made my book break into the top 100 on Amazon.

[Charlie Kirk]

There it is.

[Eric Metaxas]

And it's not coming out for two weeks

[Charlie Kirk]

up on. Put that book up on the screen. There it is, everybody get your copy. Preorder today. Revolution. I saw, Eric. We had breakfast in D.C. a couple weeks back, and I read, like, the first 10 pages. This thing's beautiful, Eric. It's so well written. I want to say that you've gotten even better since Bonhoeffer. Yeah, that was the, like, international mega, huge bestseller, millions of copies, whatever. You're really good at this. I mean, as a historian, Eric, you are becoming so elite.

[Eric Metaxas]

You're very kind. This is. This story is much more fun, happy, obviously, than the Bonhoeffer story. And it's unfortunately extremely important that every American know this story, which is why I wrote the book.

[Charlie Kirk]

But I mean.

[Eric Metaxas]

Yeah. So yesterday.

[Charlie Kirk]

Well, let me play the clips, Eric. I'm playing the clips. Yeah. You're also a show host yourself, so you can't help it, but I'm going to commandeer it. This is the way they edited what you said. Stop. 15.

[Eric Metaxas]

It's hard to believe that it would take two centuries for the Lord to raise up a great man, to bring that ballroom finally to stand where it needs to stand. It's. That's extraordinary. We only had to wait 200 years.

[Charlie Kirk]

So this is the way they edited your. Okay. And now I got the full. Because these people are liars. And if you did not know that they are liars yet, Eric, this would be. Case in point, Exhibit A.

[Eric Metaxas]

No joke. No joke.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Eric Metaxas]

I mean, think. Think about this, right? I'm invited to speak on the National Mall about something that, to me, is one of the most important things in the history of the world, which is God's hand in American history. And that's because I wrote the book on the revolution. They wanted me in my speech to focus on two times when God did something miraculous. So I submit my speech. They put in the teleprompter, and I talk about the escape from across the east river, this incredible miracle in our history in 1776. And then a few months later, the crossing of Delaware. Two miracles where we lean on God, we look to God, and God delivers us. And that's the whole story of America. And that was the point of my speech.

[Charlie Kirk]

But. But, Eric, you make a lot of jokes when you speak publicly. If you've ever heard Eric speak, he's kind of weaving really serious stuff in the midst of, like, offhanded jokes. And this is what it was. Here's the full. Eric, here's the full stop for.

[Eric Metaxas]

Oh, you're going to play it. Thirty years after we won our independence, the British challenged us again in the War of 1812, burning parts of that city named after George Washington. You may be familiar with that city. They burned parts of the city, including the White House, which at that time, if you can believe it, did not yet have a ballroom.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes.

[Eric Metaxas]

It's hard to believe that it would take two centuries for the Lord to raise up a great man, to bring that ballroom finally to stand where it needs to stand. It's extraordinary. We only had to wait 200 years.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's perfect. There was laughs. Everybody was in on the joke except for the freaking shrill Democrats in the media.

[Eric Metaxas]

So funny, Andrew. This is what's so hilarious, is that the crowd instantly got the joke and left. Any fool listening to my speech up to that point knows this is just a dumb joke meant to get a laugh, right? That, you know, and 200 years later, God raised up A man to create that ballroom, as if that's God's plan for America is the ballroom. Like, I'm joking around, right? Okay. So all my friends said, oh, that was a great line about the ball. Everybody gets a joke. I then find out that David French, who has Trump derangement syndrome, officially, the doctors have confirmed it and others are on X freaking out. That I seem, according to them, seriously, said God has raised up Donald Trump to create the ballroom. Like, they believe this and they don't understand that I'm joking, even though everybody knows it's a joke. Then I read the Daily Beast has written an article about it. There was another major article about it. I can't even think. I saw it this morning. Huffington Post wrote an article about it and the Jerusalem Post mentioned this. Like, everyone is freaking out, not getting that it's a joke. And you just think this is on the one hand, the funniest thing ever because it's promoting my book. And the other thing is like, it's kind of sad that here's a moment of joking about the ballroom. They cannot get the joke. They are so enraged by President Trump that they have to attack. It's almost unbelievable.

[Charlie Kirk]

It's almost unbelievable. Guess what? God has a sense of humor. And we're just gonna assume that this means you're gonna have a new New York Times bestseller on your hands here with, with the new book on the revolution. I mean, why not, Eric? Cause, you know, that would be the. That would be you getting the last laugh.

[Eric Metaxas]

Okay, I will beg your audience to please pre order book.

[Charlie Kirk]

Put it up, please. There it is, please.

[Eric Metaxas]

And in fact, I'll say this, we never did this before. If you pre order it through my website, ericwintax.com, we will send you a PDF, you could start reading the book immediately. I've never done that before because the book doesn't come out officially till June 2. It's a big beautiful book, like the Big Beautiful Ballroom, if I can say that. But you have to go to ericmotaxas.com

[Charlie Kirk]

and get the book, everybody. God bless you, Eric. God bless you and may God bless the United States of America. Thank you. My friend Alex Marlowe joins us next.

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[Charlie Kirk]

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[Charlie Kirk]

All right. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. We're here at the Y Refi studios. Hour two is underway and we have a very nice treat in store for you. And that is Alex Marlowe, editor in chief of Ripe Bart and I check it every day, multiple times, most of the time, multiple times. And he's also hosted the Alex Marlowe Show. Alex, welcome back.

[Alex Marlowe]

Always great to be back with you guys. Thanks for having me yet again.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, you're one of our regulars, Alex. You can't get away from us. It's just going to be this is the way it is now, you know, story. By the way, I've, I have polled the audience informally about which of our regulars they like and your name always comes up. So you're stuck with us, Alex. Love it, love it, love it. All right, thank you. Let's talk politics. Sure. You know, there's a lot going on. Namely Senator Cassidy was just successfully primaried in Louisiana as a Senate. That's a huge people like I don't think most people realize what a big deal it is for a sitting senator to be primary.

[Blake]

Yeah. And just pretty bad. Really badly because it wasn't even a full primary where he lost head to head with somebody. It was the first level primary and so he got third place among the Republicans, doesn't even make it to the runoff. So he, he knows months out that his time in the Senate is done.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yep. Julia Letlo pulled away with that one with 44.8% of the vote and John Fleming will be her challenger with 28.3%. Bill Cassidy came in third, as Blake said at 24.8. So a distant third and be up against Jamie Davis it looks like for the Democrats. So what do you make of this particular one. And then we're going to move on to Thomas Massie.

[Alex Marlowe]

Yeah. First of all, both of those candidates seem good. I think Trump endorsed Let Low the other candidate. We've done stuff with him, a lot of Breitbart, so there's a huge improvement and really awesome stuff to see this. But it's so rare. And that's the shocking thing, is that we haven't seen this happen since 2012 with Richard Lugar getting primaried. And it's Senators tend to just keep their spots in the primaries until they get unseated by the other party. And that is just not how the country should work. And so it's really good where the voters actually hold people in power and just shows you money. External influences really do manipulate so many of our elections. But Cassidy was a bad guy. He was right out there, front and center, grandstanding against President Trump after all the J6 stuff, and it was such a loser move. And I'm glad that he got his comeuppance politically. And it's a great signal the base is sending to the establishment. If you're going to throw down against President Trump over nonsense mainstream media hokum like Jan6stuff, then we're going to vote you out. And so it's fantastic. I love it.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. I mean, candidly, I mean, I haven't ever shared this, but I remember when Charlie was trying to get Secretary Kennedy through the confirmation hearings and Cassidy was once again a thorn in the side. Didn't like some of Kennedy's stance on, you know, vaccines or whatever. I mean, I think Senator Cassidy is a doctor. Right. So he was much more in the establishment camp and was very nervous about that. And Charlie kind of swallowed his pride and reached out to him and said, hey, get on board with this. You know, if not, there's gonna be huge problems for you. It turns out there was problems for him anyways. Obviously, it's not Charlie's fault or Turning Point's fault, but President Trump definitely took notice of that impeachment vote and wasn't gonna let it go. I don't think anybody should be surprised by that. But next up is another race that President Trump has weighed in very heavily, and that is involving Thomas Massie in Kentucky. Now it's become sort of a proxy fight on many things. On Epstein, on the Iran war, on Israel, foreign money. What are you making of this? It seems to be a dead heat right now, Alex. If not, Massie might be a little bit behind, depending on the poll you see.

[Alex Marlowe]

Yeah, it's A dead he. It's one of these things where if you pull the Breitbart newsroom, there's gonna be a lot of people who are comfortable with Massie, and there's gonna be some people who are not. I'm in the camp that would like to see him lose. I think that he's built up his brand as an online grandstander. I don't see him making a lot of productive votes. He seems to be the guy. And J.D. vance was very articulate about this. Whenever Trump needed him to make sure something passed, then Massey is dependably not there. And also out on X, the Everything app, where he uses the platform to try to fundraise and get clout by suggesting that Trump's government is covering up for pedophiles, at which I don't believe that to be the case. I believe we should all get all full information on Epstein. But I don't think that Donald Trump's government is going out of their way to try to protect pedophiles. That's Massie's entire online brand. And he always is the vote that the Republicans need and can't get. And he loves it. He delights in that. That, to me, is just so counterproductive. And I think the state of Kentucky can do better.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. I mean, listen, my take on Massie is we like Massie. I like some of his principled stands. Charlie liked some of Massie's principled stands, namely anti war. He loved that he was a good maha fighter. He liked that principled budget hawk like that. But, you know, Blake and I were talking about before the show today and. Go ahead. It was your thought.

[Blake]

Yeah. Charlie liked a lot of things about Massie. He said he was a favorite congressman of his for a long time. But. But Charlie is also a guy who supports President Trump. He supports getting as much as you can done with this administration because he recognizes we're in a national crisis. Time is short, and I don't think he would have a lot of patience for Massie. For example, when the Iran action happened, even if Charlie himself would have been very skeptical of that. Massie, basically, he went on and he said, literally have this tweet PSA bombing a country on the other side of the globe won't make the. The Epstein files go away. Suggesting the war is this wag the dog effort to distract from the Epstein files. Or another thing he said is, I vote with the GOP 91% of the time, because 9% of the time they're starting wars, bankrupting our country or covering up for pedophiles. He's totally leaned into this brand that the administration is this pedophile cabal, which is the stuff you can find on Blue Sky. It's the stuff you can find in the worst conspiracy swamps. And frankly, I'll go further. I'll say I think that a lot of the file releases have vindicated President Trump's warnings, which is. There's a lot of salacious gossip. It's made a lot of people look bad, it's been embarrassing for a lot of people, but it has not exposed some massive pedophile cabal. That's why, that's why people haven't been charged. If someone can show me this specific person should be charged with crimes against

[Charlie Kirk]

children, I'd love to see some people charged from it. But, but that's, that's another topic. I agree with your, your main point, though.

[Alex Marlowe]

Yeah, sure.

[Charlie Kirk]

That essentially, you know, listen, there were some calls on, on X over the weekend to get, you know, will you endorse Thomas Massie? Listen, if Thomas Massie wins, I'm. I'm going to be good with it. Like, that's life. I'm totally good with it. I think we work with Thomas. He's got some great positions and he's got some. To your point, he has made his whole brand about pedophile protection with Ro Khanna, by the way. Ro Khanna has stood shoulder to shoulder trying to make much of this political football with the Epstein thing, with women that have been accused of actually soliciting some of the minors that were abused. So I'm just saying I have an open mind here, but at the end of the day, I say, I will do what JD Vance does. SOT17

[J.D. Vance]

being independent, having your own opinions is one thing. Voting against the party on every single issue, you're eventually going to make too many enemies. And that is the problem that Thomas has had. It's not one issue, it's not three or four issues. It's that every time that we've needed Thomas for a vote, he has been completely unwilling to provide it. That is why the President United States has trained his ire on Thomas Massie. It's because we can never count on him for some of the most difficult votes. And when you always vote against the party, you can't expect the party to actually back you.

[Charlie Kirk]

So listen, that seems to be pretty logical. Listen again, I don't hate Thomas Massie. I actually like so much of him, just like Charlie did. But at the end of the day, we got a slim, slim majority and we got to get stuff done. So hang right there. Alex Marle, we're not done with you. One more segment with the great Alex Marlowe and we will get to that in just a second. What do I got, guys? Hillsdale. Oh, I love Hillsdale. Hillsdale is America's greatest university and they have this, you know, we talked about with Eric Metaxas as well. We've got this revolutionary America film that is coming out May 31st through June 2nd. You can get your tickets now by going to hillsdale.com or sorry, let me do that again. Hillsdale. Eduardo Hillsdale. Edu Revolution Listen, we live in a time and a place where the left, they want you to think America's awful, that we are systemically oppressive and racist and vicious and vile and we're on stolen land and all that stuff. Go back to the source, listen to people that have actually studied it, that actually understand the founding story and put together this amazing film. You're gonna want to see it in theaters. I'm telling you, it's stunning, it's beautifully made and it's historically accurate, which is amazing in this day and age. Hillsdale Edu Revolution in theaters May 31 through June 2. Get your tickets now.

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[Charlie Kirk]

I heart radio. All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. We have Alex, Alex Marlowe, editor in chief of Breitbart. Check it out every day Breitbart News and host of the Alex Marlow Show. Alex, you had another thought that you wanted to convey on the Massie race? You're muted, Alex.

[Alex Marlowe]

Sorry, I was muted. Sorry. Yeah. So the positive thing about Massie is he is a real American individual and I do like that. And I want to encourage people to be individuals. But his job as congressman is to vote. And when you're consistently voting, that make the job easier for the Democrats and for the bad guys politically, then that becomes a major problem for me. And think about the one big beautiful bill act where he opposed that. And that was essentially what people voted for in the 2024 election. Trump wanted this. He talked about the whole dime. He wanted one big beautiful bill that's going to get his agenda going. And Massey stood in the way of that. That's just a sign that he's in it for himself. And you know, I don't love the glow up that his wife died and did the big glow up and then got the younger wife immediately. That's also off putting to me. But all that matters to me is how does he vote. And he's a Republican who votes, problematically, a lot, and that's what it comes down to. So I'm rooting against him. But again, an interesting individual.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. I mean, listen, when it comes to his personal life, I mean, listen, from all I can tell, he was a devoted husband for many years and his wife died unexpectedly. My heart goes out to him about all of that. And I don't subscribe to any of the salacious stuff that people are slinging, but I get the optics of it. Alex, I just. To your point, what matters to me is, is he going to be a part of a team or is he not? And listen, I understand. Like I said, I love his principled stance on war. I think Alex Clark has been out publicly defending his maha bona fides. Love that. Love the budget hawk stuff. But at some point, J.D. vance made a point. You know, this is politics. When you, when you fight the party and what the agenda of so many of your colleagues are trying to get accomplished constantly, eventually you're gonna have a lot of enemies. So, again, if he gets elected, I'll be happy. If he doesn't get elected, we're gonna deal with that reality as well.

[Blake]

Bill Cassidy just lost his primary because he was a senator who voted to convict Trump after January 6th. That was the reason he lost this primary, above all.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah.

[Blake]

And so if you are, the number one thing that annoys Republicans for the most part is deciding to be a giant thorn in the side of the president from their party, especially when they would prefer to be in conflict, at war with the left. And I think there are plenty of lawmakers who have navigated the dynamic of disagreeing with President Trump on specific issues, sometimes strongly. There are multiple lawmakers who do that on multiple issues, including even on Iran itself. But Nassi has carved out a special brand for himself in that regard. And that, unsurprisingly, has created a lot of conflict.

[Charlie Kirk]

And listen, part of this is the Trump dynamic. There's no doubt. I'm sure Trump played a part in this relationship devolving down. I've seen certain allegations from Marjorie Taylor Greene about how this has happened. And listen, I want us all to be in peace and to be rowing in the same direction. I want unity. Hopefully, if Massie ends up pulling this off, we can do this. Just one more note, by the way. Like, there's a lot of groups spending a lot of money in this race, which one I think is a distraction, I think it's taking resources away from other races to beat Democrats that are more important. So that's my first perspective. Turning point action is not involved in this race. We're not spending money, we're not doing it. And so we're going to let the chips fall where they may. But I will say, you know, if there's a tweet here from Stephen Miller that I thought was interesting because Ro Khanna says, you know, Thomas Massie is a man of character. He's the type of congressman our founders envision. I hope his constituents will see the courage, independence, and sincere love of country he brings to the job. Okay. And he's quoting a New York Times opinion column. Stephen Miller comes back and says Khana is among the most radically liberal anti maga extremists to be found in all of Congress. This is the equivalent of being endorsed by Rachel Maddow. I do think that that's interesting. There's a whole discussion here, Alex, about where the money's coming from. There are PACs, there is the AIPAC, there's Israel aligned PACs. It's not. Not foreign money, by the way. That's a misconception online, commonly. Sure, these are Americans that do care about Israel, whatever you think about that. However, there is another side of the coin here where apparently it's only between like 3 and 5% of the funding on Massey's side, who's actually outraised his competitor, Gowen. But Yeah, there's only 3 to 5% that's coming from Kentucky. So he's getting a lot of support from outside as well. And so if you're gonna make that critique on one side, you can make it for both in this race. There's a lot of national attention. We understand how it's gone. All right. I think we've made our point clearly here. All right, last point, Alex Marlowe. The Iran war drags on. Okay? This is becoming a whole thing. Democrats have basically staked their entire political fortunes on calling Republicans racist after the Supreme Court ruling gutted Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act. We're getting really racially gerrymandered districts, especially in the South. Those two dynamics, Iran and racism from the left. How are you and how are you looking at all this? How is it going to play out?

[Alex Marlowe]

Yeah, I want to look at this in a neutral way because even though people in our audience, they're going to be so just numb to just being called racist and fascist and all that stuff, but The Democrats really do think this is going to be motivational in terms of voting because they're trying to frame it up as the Republican racist. Redistricting is what they're fighting against and is giving them a narrative. It's probably their clearest narrative in a while. I was playing a bunch of clips on my podcast earlier today, just going through how the talking points clearly went out. It's the entire party, they're all framing it as though all the redistricting is based in racism and they think they can win on it. I haven't seen fresh data, but they really do think this is the case. So mark that down. This is happening and they do think this is a winning issue to frame it this way. I hope the American people burned out on it. They don't stand for anything principally, but I think that's a very important point. The next thing, Iran, as you mentioned, the Democrats know that the longer the Iran war goes out, the goes on, the harder it's going to be for Republicans to win in a midterm. So they want to see it go on. They want to see it prolonged so that they can continue to dunk on Trump for this stuff. They're not looking for them to wrap it up and declare victory. Iran also, ironically, would like for things to go on longer because they know that Trump's going to get a bunch of political pressure both from his party and from the Democrat party at home. The media obviously trying to make it so that write a narrative that we've lost the war no matter what happens. And so these are the two big things that I think are headwinds for President Trump heading into the midterm season, kicking off in full flight.

[Charlie Kirk]

I will tell you what I mean, maybe it's just me, maybe I'm biased, but. But every time they sling the racism slur at us, I just feel like it falls flat. I feel like we're gonna have Eli Steele on next segment to talk about this. He had a great essay out over the weekend explaining what drives so much of our racial dysfunction in here. But we'll give you a taste of what Alex is talking about. SA8 I have to just tell the truth. There are people in this hostile anti black administration that would rather black Americans pick cotton than pick the president, than pick their congressperson, than pick a senator. Well, that's just civically idiotic, actually, because a sitting senator is chosen by the whole state and they don't have the votes in the south to get their senators in most races anyways. The point is Alex. You're totally right. I mean I've got, I've got 14 clips of this that I could choose from as well. And that's what they're staking their whole thing. I will tell you this, I would prefer this over the anti ice narrative after Minneapolis where you had Rachel Good and Alex Preddy that were killed. I think this is far less.

[Alex Marlowe]

I think we got to be able to beat this. We got to be able to beat this one. It's not a strong one. And have you guys ever talked to anyone who wants black people picking cotton? It's so she's going too far back. She's reaching too far back.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah. Alex Marlowe, you thank thank you, my friend. We'll talk to you soon. Eli Steele joins us next.

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[Eli Steele]

Thank you very. Thank you for having me.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yeah, absolutely. It's an honor to have you. You know, Charlie had your father on the show a couple of times. It was always a great pleasure. And you've really taken up his mission, and you're doing a great job. I was really profoundly moved by a piece you wrote, you published on X. I'm assuming it's on your sub stacks as well. But you said you're basically taking issue, I think, kindly, gently, with Gadsad's position, suicidal empathy. Who's another guy that we love on this show. And I think Gadz contribution to this discussion is important. But he said whites. You said this in your piece. You said whites stood accused by history. They had failed the founding idea of all men are created equal and were stigmatized as a group, whether or not they had personally owned slaves or enforced Jim Crow. The question that haunted many of them was not, how do I feel for you? But how do I prove I'm not one of the racists? This condition of societal guilt, not the emotion of empathy, became an organizing principle of American public life. You underscore that you believe that so much of our racial dysfunction in this country is caused by fear, not empathy. Explain. Sir,

[Eli Steele]

thank you for having me. And this is my first time on the show, so you already may not know that I am deaf, so I have a deaf action. But to your question, yeah, I mean, you're pointing out to something that is very fundamental, which is we're talking about collective guilt here. America had practiced, you know, racism, whether it was slavery or segregation, for almost four centuries. And it's another thing that's very important to remember that America was a very Christian country, and the Civil rights movement was a Christian movement. And rich form of Christianity was right, because Christianity had been kind of the furthest to explain slavery. She was blamed segregation. And that was a huge problem. So right. In America, Rich always pride itself on having that innocence of having that, you know, special thing. And the Civil rights movement said, no, you are not innocent. You enslaved us. And that created a huge fallout or collision in the 1960s where white America realized, oh, we're not on the top morally, as we thought that we were. And that spread to all of white America. Whether you were a slave owner or you actually participated in segregation, or even you didn't, you're white skin roasting, not of a condemnation. And I think that story was mischief on this whole suicidal empathy question because it sort of focuses on the individual. Empathy began as the individual emotion. And you're kind of trying to scale that out. I'm arguing the opposite. That there was a collective judgment from the outside on white America. And that went into the mind of many people. And they said, okay, how do I achieve innocence? How do I achieve moral authority? And my father obviously calls this false innocence because only true innocence can be done through true means of repenting. In other words, if we had done it the right way, we would have focused on developing the people that we had oppressed. Instead we focus on white redemption instead. What we call the left, what we call the post-60s liberalism. So it became all about white redemption rather than actually doing the much more difficult work of coming together as a country and repairing the damage.

[Blake]

No, exactly, Eli. It really feels like a regression to, you might even say pre biblical morality that Charlie loved to cite that in the Old Testament. One of its innovations is to say you do not punish children for the sins of their fathers. That individuals choices matter, individual decisions matter. Whereas many other moral codes don't take that. They do consider it normal to do collective punishment. In China, a very common punishment was if someone committed treason, you killed their wife, their children, their parents, sometimes even their, their friends and associates. And that was totally normal. And this is doing the same thing that it's reviving this, this pre biblical morality of you are responsible for the decisions of your ancestors. In fact your entire, your entire race, you're responsible for those. It is, it is blood guilt. And they've brought that back and it's created this psychosis in a lot of

[Charlie Kirk]

people that I do agree though, it's fear. You fear of being stigmatized with the existence racist word, fear of being called a bigot. We have turned that into American society. Is the number one insult, the number one assault on somebody's character conceivable, Right. It doesn't matter if you're a pedophile, if you killed somebody, we'll let you out of bond, cashless bond if you did those things. But if you're a racist, then that is the number one chief sin that you can commit as an American. And how they did that is really, really fascinating. Now that does. So what we've done, Eli, is we've completely cut out the knees from logical conversations, common sense conversations about crime, about education, about fatherlessness. And instead it's just. It's a blanket pejorative they can sling at you to make sure you're not allowed in polite society. You're not allowed to run for office, you're not allowed to lead a company, you're not allowed to be a part of a church. If you are the R word, they will take you out of everything. And that has created a paralyzing fear in the American body politic. And I think we're finally. The further we get away from the 1960s, we're finally seeing a true reawakening where we can have actual discussions about race, politics, culture and these sorts of things. That's why I think your piece is so powerful, Eli.

[Eli Steele]

Yeah, and I think this piece is very helpful in many ways because what he is doing is. He is describing, I think what raises symptom. Yeah, you could call it suicide or empathy. I may not agree with it, but I don't think it's invaluable because I think it helped a lot of people focus on what's going on in the country. And maybe we could get deeper beyond that. Because I think when you were talking about blood guilt painting to the stains of the fathers that is about the most anti American principle.

[Charlie Kirk]

Yes.

[Eli Steele]

Are a nation of individuals. We broke away from era to choir Europe where the first time had all the power. Now everybody had to chant. Everybody individual. We created, you know, the whole boundary principles are all around the protection of the individual and what the. We could call them, you know, bad actors or something like that. They saw an opportunity in the 1960s. They said white America is guilty. That's our power. That's why my father says the white guilt is literally the same as black power. Not only that, across Europe we have colonialism. And now you have colonial guilt. So now you see how whites all across America. This is why when George Floyd happened you had the UK you had Sweden, Finland, Germany all bowing down to black Lives Matters Hate to respond is to this western guilt which we should kind of call white guilt in general, but all of it. I think the whole purpose of it is to undermine the individual and force us into a tribal society back into I guess we call it pre biblical time where we are tribal. This is very anti western. And this is why my father and I we believe it is the most destructive force that's going on in the western world. Because if we do become tribal then we will have to reinvent America somewhere else.

[Charlie Kirk]

And there's nowhere else to go at this point. And I think it's very telling when you look at that SPLC story too, Eli, how they knew that if you could weaponize white supremacy, if you could create a boogeyman that rested upon this foundation, this narrative that had been created in the post 1960s world, then you could monetize it, you could weaponize it, you could send it to the DOJ and you could criminalize it. You can do all of this with the cudgel of racism, of guilt, of fear that has paralyzed our culture. And if we are paralyzed by this fear, we will lose Western civilization. We will lose confidence in ourselves, the confidence we need to build this, this, this, this civilization that we, that we know and love, the greatest that the world has ever known. Eli Steele, you can check him out@substack manofsteel.com and check out this new essay. I think it's super important, Eli, to the discussion. Thank you so much for your time, my friend.

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Thank you for having me.

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A bunch of emails about Massey and from various deluge. Various perspectives, I will say. And we should acknowledge that.

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I actually probably would say. Which is notable for someone who is in conflict with the President.

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Yeah.

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One from Ali says Massie would rather grandstand about balancing the budget than stop Iran from building ballistic missiles. He voted against Trump's big beautiful bill that delivered tax cuts for Americans. He's done nothing to help JD Vance go after the massive fraud and waste that is actually draining our budget. Priorities matter. But then Jamie says, I love Massie. We need more Rand Paul's and more Thomas Massie's. I want him to vote yes where he can, but he has always been against spending. This isn't new. I understand the loyalty issue though. Democrats also vote together. But I think we have so many rhinos that it has become impossible for Republicans. I wish we would focus on removing rhinos. Though, before the Massie types, someone says, tell. Tell Rhino Andrew that Massey does not have any points. So I think he's saying you said he had a point on something.

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Oh, I say no, no. Okay, listen, I'll stand by it. Massey's good on war, he's good on Maha, he's good on spending.

[Blake]

All right, and then we have another one. This is actually from a few days ago, but I thought it meshed well with this. Massie was on my friends list. But I have been telling people for a couple years that libertarians are planning to sabotage MAGA by helping Democrats because they hate tariffs and they are pro China. Big Tech wants them to. Wants to fund the libertarians to destroy our movement. At some point, it no longer matters whether people are good on some things. His opponent should be endorsed. So that's a good representation. I mean, we actually got one from someone who says that they're so pro masi that if he loses, they're going to vote Democrat from now on. So that's a very strong opinion.

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Giant Psyop, we disagree on that. Zero reason to vote Democrat. Listen, Democrats are an anti civilizational force. Yes. Let me prove this to you. There are. Let's just bring up the real numbers. Okay, so these are the same people that let Irina Zarudska's killer out after multiple, multiple violent crimes in this man's past. All right, we've got another story of. I mean, it's like every day there's a new story. That's what Democrats do. Democrats are the one that flooded the borders and want to replace American voters with more compliant Third Worlders. Democrats are the ones that want to blow the entire federal budget to give freebies to foreigners, to give Green New Deal scams, all this stuff. They are agents of chaos, quite literally. They don't believe in merit. They believe in dei. They believe in. They don't believe in equality, they believe in equity. Every single point that they choose is going in the wrong direction. Literally every single point. I've got nothing for them. They want to kill babies at 9 months old. What could you possibly want to defend them? Now? If you're an accelerationist. Right, Let me deal with you guys too. If you're an accelerationist who wants to burn it all down so that you can rebuild a party in your image, it doesn't work. All they will do is get stronger, entrench their power more deeply, and cause more chaos, destruction and carnage in their wake. Do you think that we are going to anytime soon get out from under the 10 to 15 million illegals that they let flood this country in just four years of Joe Biden in four years, they darn near killed the country. Four years. So if that's your plan, I couldn't disagree with you more strongly.

[Blake]

Yeah, so it's like, for example, we read the Ro Khanna tweet endorsing Massie. And yeah, Roe, he is a somewhat different Democrat and that he sometimes finds issues to collaborate with. But you can check this. You can just check this where Ro Khanna, he supports amnesty for illegal immigrants with a path to citizenship. Ro Khanna all in on the transculpt. Totally loves all of that stuff.

[Charlie Kirk]

Ro Khanna all in on COVID vaccine. No bodily autonomy in that. You know, all in on the George Floyd riots. He wants reckoning.

[Blake]

He wants. He's actually wants a. I checked that. That he wants to investigate possible reparations.

[Charlie Kirk]

Do you want to know how Americans say no?

[Blake]

But it's just this thing happens over and over. And if you're going to say, I'm going to vote Democrat as a protest thing, you are voting for the great solvent of our civilization. You are voting to create California for the entire country. And if you want to see how things are going, you can look at California right now. California can't build anything. California is just in perpetual thrall to the worst excesses of labor. They basically are just controlled by a cartel that defrauds their state government with the willing connivance of the state government itself. That is the future of the country. If you lean into this and we're frustrated, if Massie is enabling that to come about, even if he is on our side for a bunch of different issues. But if you're going to look at this and say, I'm mad over a House race, I am now going to switch to the other party. You need to get your head checked

[Charlie Kirk]

well, and listen, I understand the president can be difficult to deal with. Lauren Boebert is running into some of this and Warren Davidson, who's. They're all campaigning with Massie. Listen, if Massie wins, we're gonna be just fine. We're gonna deal with it, and it's great. I don't dislike Massie in a broad sense. That's all I'm saying. But if you're going to vote Democrat because you don't like the way this race goes, that's insanity. This is how insane it gets. Throw up these numbers. This is from the FBI. Did you know that? Because we've become so insane about our racial discourse in this country because of Democrats, because of left wing progressives that their murder rate is now at 1 out of every 22 black men will murder someone in their lives. That's that red column in the middle. That is the fruits of the left left. The vast majority of those murders are being enabled or inspired by a very small percentage of people that we can't ever get off the streets because they believe in no cash, bail and all this garbage. And these judges have been co opted by the radical left. There is not one single issue where I could get on board with Democrats. Not one. So I completely disagree with the accelerationist burn it all down protest vote. What's going to happen in Kentucky is going to be decided by Kentuckians in that district. Let it play out. That's my, that's my final word. We'll see you guys tomorrow. Until then,

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