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Chemaine Nugent
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Chemaine Nugent
Perhaps you were born for such a time as this. Hello, everyone and welcome to Faith and Freedom. I'm Chemaine Nugent. No biting, Ted. I tell you, I'm a biter.
Ted Nugent
Hey everybody, happy 2026. It's gonna be the best year of my life and the worst for my enemies because I'm on a true north compass setting. Thanks for celebrating faith and freedom and my unbelievable soulmate, my bow hunting bud, the spirit of the wild little Miss Dangerous queen of the forest. I love you people.
Chemaine Nugent
Well, Ted, you know, we've got the war with Iran heating up.
Ted Nugent
Yikes.
Chemaine Nugent
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Ted Nugent
Yikes.
Chemaine Nugent
And the world suddenly looks a lot like the one that the Bible. Wonderful. How did they predict that thousands of years ago?
Ted Nugent
Who wrote that Bible? They're clever people. They have a crystal ball.
Chemaine Nugent
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Ted Nugent
You know the rock and roll cannot be stopped. I am the three legged illegitimate son of Little Richard. But that means that I'm really powered by the soul music of America. I have the best band in the world, Chemain. I've done over 7,000, 7,021 concerts in my life. But in Ardmore, Oklahoma last Saturday with Jared James Nichols, Guitar God, Phil X Guitar God, A young black kid from Connecticut, Amani, Guitar God. My incredible rhythm section, Jason Hartless and Jon Kutz and Johnny Big. I'm telling you, it, it's unbelievable. Truly. To the non participants. I had the greatest two hours of music in my life in 2026. So number one, thanks to all the real music lovers out that inspire us. We see your eyeballs out there and at my concerts it's all teeth and eyeballs. People are so stimulated because your energy, your piss and vinegar, your love of real soulful music, it actually inspires every lick, every song. And my band and I, we auditioned for the James Brown every song, every lick, every concert. So we're doing a bunch of concerts throughout Texas, Louisiana, Arkansas, in Michigan, Indiana, Wisconsin, Ohio, Pennsylvania, going back to Pikes Peak. And we're doing bike week, the big giant outrageous motorcycle celebration in Arizona in April. So if you want to have a sample and a thrill like we had when we created this music in the 1960s, only one guy can do that, Me and my band. So check out tednugent.com because the energy level, I'm an man but when I put on my Gibson Birdland Shamain, it's out of body. You're talking about biblical predictions and biblical reality happening. My music is biblical. It's literally the soundtrack of Christian constitution, conservative conservationists. We the people living it up. So thank you everybody for the support and thank you to my band and my crew and my sons, my daughters, Shamaine, Doug Banker, Linda Peterson. I Have the best team in the world. It's perfect.
Chemaine Nugent
America, what do you think has been the secret to your success over the years? If you were to give one piece of advice to somebody who's just watching this and they want to learn to play the guitar, they want to be in a band, what advice would you give them?
Ted Nugent
Well, it's about heart and soul. And I've emphasized this my whole life, and it really pisses some people off, but that's tough. Clean and sober. You can't have as much fun as I've had for 77 years. If you're drunk or stoned or you eat bad food and you don't take care of yourself. I'm 77 years old, and I sometimes can't believe the dancing and the athleticism and the adventure and the fun. So, number one, take good care of yourself and pursue something that really turns you on. I love crave. Celebrate the mystical flight of the arrow. All my life. Archery, the discipline, nature, hunting, fishing, trapping, Putting more trees in than we take out. Being a resource, resource steward and a conservationist. But ultimately, the music is the soundtrack for my natural enthusiasm that is not decreased by drugs and alcohol, but increased by heart and soul and the incredible talent that is always at my side. The best musicians, the best band members. And then I get home to this. And I come home to this and that inspiration. Because I love you so much.
Chemaine Nugent
Well, let's be honest.
Ted Nugent
That was honest.
Chemaine Nugent
You not only come home to this. Well, yeah, the most important part, let's
Ted Nugent
be honest, Coco, Sadie and Jackson, I love. In fact, Jackson's in your chewing on.
Chemaine Nugent
That's why I was looking. I'm like, what has he got now?
Ted Nugent
No, but it's about quality of life priorities. God, family, country, constitution, bill rights, fighting bad people. Look at this guy. That's Jackson, the greatest hunting buddy in the world. I love you. Good boy.
Chemaine Nugent
So last night, Rocco and Bell.
Ted Nugent
Such a good dog.
Chemaine Nugent
Rocco, Bell and River live nearby. And I was taking river for a sunset walk, which I do often, almost every night. And I have sang song. Jackson, you are my son.
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Ted Nugent
Do it right now. Watch.
Chemaine Nugent
No, I could literally.
Ted Nugent
He'll fall asleep.
Chemaine Nugent
He'll fall asleep. So I started singing that to river, and Jackson came over and put his paw in my arm like, mommy, that's our. That's our song. That's my song. So thank you for letting us indulge in. This is our home. This is our podcast room. We work out of here. You play the guitar. I saw you just playing guitar for.
Ted Nugent
Yeah, I did the Adam Carolla podcast. You gotta watch for that. Adam Carolla is another. Truth, logic, common sense. But he and I don't agree on everything. But we agree on.
Chemaine Nugent
In fact, he was drinking whiskey the whole time you were talking about being clean and sober. He's like, but, you know, he did say the word. You're quite a buzzkill. Aren't?
Ted Nugent
Well, the bottom line is, at Thanksgiving dinner, my sons and daughters and brothers and my family and friends, they can have a beer. There's nothing wrong with the beer. In fact, a beer, your average beer, is way better than some sugary poison soft drink. So I understand that tradition in life, but I've been clean and sober for 77 years, and I went squirrel hunting this morning. Jackson got a beautiful squirrel. I made a great shot with my 1022, as perfectly cleaned by Frontline Defense Gun shop in Waco, Texas. My point is, I pursue those things that really turn me on. You say go after things that light your fire. How do you put it?
Chemaine Nugent
I can't remember what I said. Do the thing that makes your heart sing.
Ted Nugent
I do things that make my heart sing. So go to tednugent.com if you want to see band members and musicians that put their heart and soul into every song, every lick. Johnny and John and Jason. My crew, my guitar. We just tested the amps with Chris Hadley and Calvin Ross. Happy birthday, Calvin. And a guy named REM from nearby with some natural organic greens for us. So we surround ourselves with people of heart and soul. Sam Brown was at lunch. Tim Tucker was at lunch. We did a benefit for the veterans here again recently at Johnny's Place. You got to surround yourself with enthusiastic, positive, loving people. And when. When you do that, it buoys your spirit. It buoys your enthusiasm and lust for life. And I've been lusting quality of life and happiness all my life. And it's only available to this degree. With all due respect, you can't be as happy as I am if you're stoned or drunk. It's impossible. Only you think you are while you're drooling and stumbling and pissing off your family. So be clean and sober. More people will die because of drunk drivers today, and it just breaks my heart. So take life and thank God every day for another day and rock and roll like you mean it in whatever rock and roll pursuit you pursue.
Chemaine Nugent
Well, thank you, Ted, for joining us. And thank you, Jackson. He's.
Ted Nugent
Jackson's my own. Coco's here now. Coco's here.
Chemaine Nugent
We won't have her get up here. But thank you so much. Watch the Spirit campfire right here on Real America's Voice on Fridays. Is it?
Ted Nugent
I think Saturdays, but Saturdays, yeah. Thank you. Real America's Voice number one, everybody. Tell everybody you know there's a real America's Voice, faith and freedom. I do a spirit campfire every week and it's outrageous. It's out of control. It's just a flame throwing middle finger, defiant fun, Truth, logic and common sense. So it's alive and well. And thank you to everybody that supports Chemaine and I. We film Ted Nugent's Spirit of the Wild every day in the great outdoors. Conservation, hands on resources, stewardship. Making the air, soil and water quality better by being quality conscious ranchers and farmers and hunters. But go to Tednugent.com and tell everybody you know there's a truth, logic, common sense, faith and freedom with the most beautiful woman in the world. And she's mine. She's mine. I got her. And I like to chew on this part right here.
Chemaine Nugent
Yeah, no biting, Ted. All right, everybody, thank you. We're going to be right back. I'm going to be right back. Ted's got chores to do. But don't forget, go to TWC Health and use the promo code Shamaine to save 10%. That's TWC health, Shamaine. We'll be right back.
Ted Nugent
Relish the opportunity to be an outsider because it's the outsiders who change the world.
Chemaine Nugent
Perhaps you were born for such a time as this.
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Kristen Davis
Davis from Are you a Charlotte Podcast? I just had the most epic girls day cruising around LA with my friend Heather Graham. And thanks to Hyundai we even recorded a special episode for you. Yes, I have a good 90s story of Fred Siegel.
Ted Nugent
What?
Kristen Davis
I saw Alanis Morris at there one time.
Chemaine Nugent
It was so exciting.
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I was with my girlfriend Melanie.
Chemaine Nugent
She saw you so that's like good. She was very.
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It was like the height of Alanis time and she was with this beautiful man and I had a golden retriever puppy and the beautiful man wanted to say hi to the golden retriever puppy. We were eating at that little cafe there at the Santa Monica one and Alanis hung back in a way that made me wonder what was happening. Like who wouldn't want to pet this beautiful puppy.
Chemaine Nugent
I was like, oh my God, it's Alanis.
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And then I was like, try to breathe, try to breathe, try to breathe because I love her so much. My new episode is out now, presented by the all new Hyundai Palisade hybrid. Make every day epic.
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Chemaine Nugent
Perhaps you were born for such a time as this. Ted and I are both big supporters of Mike Lindell and the MyPillow employees because they're true patriots. And they want to thank us. They want to thank you, the viewers here on Faith and Freedom, for your great support this past year. And they want to make 2026 even better. So to do that, they're giving you a huge discount. Classic MyPillows are normally 50 bucks. Now they're only 15. Turn any mattress into the best mattress ever. And I've done that. Made in the usa. My pillow, my pet mattress topper and also the dog beds. Our dogs love the dog beds and the towels and the sheets. There's so many Great things from MyPillow.com Go there right now MyPillow.com and use the promo code FAITH or or call 1-800-933-6972. These offers aren't going to last long. Go to MyPillow.com and Use the promo code FAITH. Order now. Joining me now is Stacy Smith, a licensed professional counselor and mold literate naturopathic practitioner. You know, this is a topic that's very personal to me. I've spent years researching environmental toxins and their impact on the body. But what many people don't realize is how directly mold affects your brain. Stacy, welcome. Thanks so much for joining me.
Stacy Smith
Thank you. I'm so happy to be here.
Chemaine Nugent
So we talk a lot about respiratory symptoms with toxic mold, but what's actually happening in the brain during toxic mold exposure.
Stacy Smith
So you know, the mold carries in the spores have the mycotoxins which are very sticky type particles and very small. And those mycotoxins can actually go and cross the blood brain barrier. Certain mycotoxins that go into the brain like that can trigger inflammation, that can trigger cognitive issues like things that are going to alter your serotonin and your dopamine affecting your mood, your focus, your sleep. People have short term memory loss. I've heard people tell me that, you know, and even me myself kind of almost felt like I was having a stroke. Like I could not think of a certain word. It just would not come. There's a lot of problems with, you know, decision making skills. And then that comes like with when those mycotoxins cross the blood brain barrier and cause the brain to inflame like that. Then there we go with all these symptoms that mimic mental health, which looks like anxiety and depression, maybe some mood type cycling and it goes also into the amygdala. I don't know if you've ever seen the hand brain trauma model where we talk about this as the prefrontal cortex where your emotional reasoning is and your impulse control. And then when you flip your lid and you go into fight or flight, so it actually inflames that and it goes into like an over activation. So things like smells and other triggers from mold can actually ignite that and we go into fight or flight so those are just some ways that, you know, it can really go in and infect into the brain.
Chemaine Nugent
I have experienced this for so long and I think I was one of the pioneers because 25 years ago when I first got sick, nobody was talking about toxic mold. And in fact, doctors thought I was crazy. I had all of those symptoms, brain fog, fatigue, migraines, debilitating migraines and restless leg insomnia. So many, so many things and so many people are mislabeled, misdiagnosed like I was with. Just the number one thing that, that doctors told me was that, oh, you're just too stressed. Well, yeah, you know, the human body and, and we are made to be stress, to have physiological and emotional stress to deal with that, but not to be in a constant state of fight or flight. How often are you seeing, are you seeing an increase in this fight or flight situation as it relates to toxic mold exposure?
Stacy Smith
I am. And you know, I'm in rural Tennessee and for a long time what I was doing was working with caseloads of children who were kind of more on like 10 care. So I was working with a lot of kids who were in a situation where, you know, they kind of were helpless and they couldn't get out of their homes. They didn't have the financial means. And we have, you know, these kids coming in who are complaining of the full body stuff. And some of it was, you know, turning into like autoimmune type type symptoms. But they were also having the sudden onset of symptoms worsening with their mental health. And the hard part really with this Chemain, is a lot of people already have their nervous system when they get really sick from mold. I'm finding that a lot of people's nervous systems are already primed from chronic stress or complex trauma. And so their nervous system is kind of just, they're already inflamed, waiting for more toxins and more inflammation. So I think that's a big increase, is that, you know, our families have fallen apart. God's been taken out of a lot of our lives. And I think that a lot of bad things are happening in the world and people are really stressed out. And so when they do come into the doctor's office, we, we are stressed. And especially if we have mold toxicity, our bodies are stressed. So it does mimic that. It looks like mental health. A lot of people are given prescriptions for anxiety or depression. And many of those symptoms, as we know, once it starts hitting us, our full body system, that it inter, it interlaps or Overlaps, sorry. With, you know, our hormonal system. So it does look like a lot of other things could be going on.
Chemaine Nugent
And I remember when I got sick, so many doctors just discounted my. My feelings and what I was telling them, and I knew something was wr. And I think that's what's going on. A lot of people ask me about what were my symptoms and how did I recognize toxic mold when I was first exposed in our home that was once featured on MTV Cribs, but just exactly what you're saying. I wrote about it in my book Killer House. There was a very extreme emotional distress that I had experienced just before my exposure. And I believe that set me up for getting sicker quicker. And because of the fact that I was in the home longer than Ted, longer than Rocco during the day, I got sicker. And then, you know, talk about when. When Covid happened and we were told to stay home. And a lot of times people have no idea that their homes are actually making them sicker, and they have no idea, you know, and. And it's not every. It's not their fault. Unless you got sick and you had to deal with toxic mold, you might not know that, oh, my gosh, I'm getting chronic blood, bloody noses or chronic migraines or something like that. It's not because you're strugg. It might because you have toxic mold in your home.
Stacy Smith
That's so true. And I think that. I don't know. I'm sure with all of your research, you've heard people talk about the mold hold. It's almost like it wants to decompose your body. So it wants you to be. It wants you to stay in that environment. It wants to feed off of you. So. And then, of course, people stay in their homes when they feel sick. They don't feel like getting out. So. And we also know there's a lot of people, especially during COVID that maybe didn't have anywhere to go. Like, you know, I live on four acres in the country, and I can get outside and get in the sunshine and be in nature. And some other people may not have been able to. So the longer that you're stuck in that environment, the more toxins are accumulating in your body. Just like we know we all have that toxic bucket effect. And some people also don't drain their bucket as fast as others. And the more if we can't drain it and the toxins in our house are growing, the toxins in our body are growing, and then we also have to think about what other environments are we in that we're also maybe double dipping into that toxicity, like school, work gyms or cars, even stores that we go into. And I mean, I just know, I know probably with your research, but I know with mine we have things that are growing the mold faster, like the emf. You know, there's like a response that's making.
Chemaine Nugent
Thank you for bringing that up. I was afraid to. You know, I don't know what side of the camp you're on on that, but. Yeah, geoengineering, weather modification, EMF is exacerbating mold mycotoxin illness. So what, what can we do about it?
Stacy Smith
Well, I know it's tough because I know in my area we have a military base and they're bringing an AI distribution center here. And I'm just south of Nashville. And that's been very disturbing for a lot of us in our community who understand that that's not going to be good for the environment, for our health. You know, I think that being aware and getting as much knowledge as you can, I always tell people we have to be our own advocates for our health. We can't sit and listen to what we're told and then just think that that's all the truth. There's so much propaganda out there. And I would challenge you to whatever I'm saying to go research it. You know, we. We need to be advocates for ourselves. We need to find the truth. We need to dig deeper. As far as the EMFs, I know there's a lot of different products out there where you can put on your phone, you can put little blankets over your WI fi, you can turn your WI fi off at night. Don't sleep with your phone right by your bed at night or turn it on airplane.
Chemaine Nugent
That's the biggest thing for me. I had to really get on my husband years ago. He started doing that. I'm like, you cannot sleep with that phone next to your ear. And after you show them pictures of what happens to the brain, they wake up. But not everybody has eyes to see, as the Bible would say. Stacy, thank you so much for joining me and shedding light on this incredible problem. I'm afraid it's getting more and more prevalent. Any last words to people? We've got about 30 seconds.
Stacy Smith
Yeah, I would just say, you know, reach out and get support. There is a lot out there on social media. When I was dealing with this for two years, I didn't have any support because I didn't know where to look. But be your own advocate. Don't let people make you think you're crazy. When you are experiencing this. If you have a gut feeling you're experiencing this, you probably are. I think about one out of four homes right now are having this issue. If you're having full body problems along with mental health issues, if you've ever been diagnosed or think you have an autoimmune disorder, test your home for mold, test your body for mold and follow
Chemaine Nugent
Stacy at Mold Therapist and join your Facebook community. Toxic Mold Recovery Stacy, thank you so much for joining me. God bless.
Stacy Smith
Thank you, thank you. God bless you. Bye bye.
Chemaine Nugent
We'll be right back.
Ted Nugent
Well is the opportunity to be an outsider because it's the outsiders who change the world.
Chemaine Nugent
Perhaps you were born for such a time as this.
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Kristen Davis
Davis from Are youe a Charlotte podcast. I just had the most epic girls day cruising around LA with my friend Heather Graham and thanks to Hyundai we even recorded a special episode for you. Yes I have a good 90s story of Fred Siegel. What I saw Alanis Morris at there one time.
Chemaine Nugent
It was so exciting.
Kristen Davis
I was with my girlfriend Michelin.
Chemaine Nugent
She saw you so that's like good.
Kristen Davis
She was very it was like the height of Alanis time and she was with this beautiful man and I had a golden retriever puppy and the beautiful man wanted to say hi to the golden retriever Puppy. We were eating at that little cafe there at the Santa Monica one, and Alanis hung back in a way that made me wonder what was happening. Like, who wouldn't want to pet this beautiful puppy?
Chemaine Nugent
I was like, oh, my God, it's Alanis.
Kristen Davis
And then I was like, try to breathe, try to breathe, try to breathe because I love her so much. My new episode is out now, presented by the all new Hyundai Palisade hybrid. Make every day epic.
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Ted Nugent
Relish the opportunity to be an outsider, because it's the outsiders who change the world.
Chemaine Nugent
Perhaps you were born for such a time as this. Well, if you saw the first segment of this show, you know, we love our dogs. They go with us everywhere. They're with us all the time. And we were concerned, and obviously you should be, too, if you have pets about your pet's health. We have two dogs that are older, and in fact, Coco, our German shepherd, was told by a vet about a year and a half ago that she needed hip replacement. And we thought, you know, she's 10 years old. We can't do that. That would, you know. So we formulated products that can help with arthritis and help your pet's overall general health. Go to get uncleteds.com today and order something for your pets. They're gonna need it. We want them to live longer, and we want them to be with us as long as possible. Coco is doing great. She's not ready to run a marathon, but she doesn't need surgery, and that's all that matters to me. Okay. Joining me now is Caitlin Moss, hunter, outdoorsman, and creator behind Kaitlyn Moss Outdoors. Caitlin, welcome.
Caitlin Moss
Thank you. It's an honor to be here.
Chemaine Nugent
I'm so glad that you're here now. You represent a different kind of strength and one that, you know, a lot of women normally wouldn't have been involved with. I didn't. I wasn't attracted to hunting when I first met my husband Ted, but I realized quickly that as a non hunter, if I wanted to spend time with my husband, I better learn this thing called hunting. What. What was the impetus behind you getting involved in hunting?
Caitlin Moss
So I grew up hunting with my dad. He's definitely the primary reason that I am where I am today with it. But, yeah, it's just always something that I've been involved in and I've always enjoyed it. He made it a very, like, good and memorable, memorable experience as a kid. So it was just something that I have always done. And as I grew and I actually moved away from home but continued to do it, and I just kind of stuck with it and I've always loved it, so it. It sort of organically just turned into what it is today, and I'm very grateful for it.
Chemaine Nugent
Well, you are lucky because it's different when you're raised in a hunting family. My dad didn't hunt, so I didn't really understand what it was all about, but I was kind of a tomboy when I was growing up. I used to race motocross and I loved being outdoors, so it fit in. And I was a fitness instructor, have been a fitness instructor since before you were born? 1980. So it fit into everything that I understood because venison is pure and clean and not fed up with chemicals and steroids. And, you know, there was a time when I was not really promoting what I did, my bow hunting and our Ted Nugent Spirit of the Wild. I didn't promote it on social media because I got some backlash, but now I'm proud to be a hunter. How do you feel about it? And has there ever been a time when you were the same, you felt the same way? Like, did you ever get backlash for being a hunter?
Caitlin Moss
Oh, yes, all the time. I think, you know, there's always going to be people that disagree with us, but a lot of that, in my opinion, is just they're coming from a place of not understanding it because they aren't around it and they don't have the experience. So I really try to focus on a lot of education in my content because, you know, that's. If they don't know what they're talking about, then it's up to us as hunters to educate them. I don't necessarily go out of my way to, like, focus on that, but I think just by showing hunting in, like, a positive light and really making it about more than just the kill, you know, we're not just killers out there. Like, we. We want the best venison and meat that we can get from animals, and we want to be healthy and we want to be stewards of the land. And so I really just try to focus on that. And I think that that's the best way, in my opinion, that I could go about just being a positive influence for the hunting community.
Chemaine Nugent
What was your most memorable hunt?
Caitlin Moss
Oh, my goodness. I have so many. Truthfully, of recent, I would say probably the buck that I shot this past fall. I told myself that I was only going to hunt one deer and he was the biggest buck on the property and if I didn't shoot anything, then that was okay. But I ended up getting him the last day of the season. So I hunted very, very hard. He taught me a lot of lessons and I feel like a better hunter because of it. So definitely, definitely this past year, if
Chemaine Nugent
you were to tell a woman who is a non hunter about what hunting really is, what would you say to encourage them to check it out?
Caitlin Moss
You know, I think this kind of ties back in to just it being more than about the kill. I think that just getting out in nature for me is just a release. It's a, it's a great way to get away from the hustle and bustle of everyday life and just, just all the chaos that seems to be happening in the world. And so if anything, I would encourage women to just get out and just make it like a me time kind of situation. You don't have to shoot something. Just go out and enjoy nature. And I don't think enough people do it. So I'm, I'm always trying to promote, just get out there, you know, I think, I think it's really healthy for us and it's good to just connect and disconnect from, you know, every day. Crazy.
Chemaine Nugent
I agree. I agree. Years ago I put together like a reality show 20, 20 some years ago, 22 years ago called Queen of the Forest. Just so happens to be. My husband has a, a song that's called Queen of the Forest. And I took women who hunted and paired them up with women who didn't hunt and I had them kind of partner each other. Because if you are a non hunter and you don't, it's not like you can just go out one day and say, I'm going to go out be a hunter. It takes years and years of practice and being graceful and stealthy at the same time. But it changed. I just got goosebumps. It changed these women's lives. And I think if we can do that as hunters, bring a non hunter with us sometime to just experience. It's not like you can go, okay, God, cue the deer.
Caitlin Moss
Right, right, right. Yeah. I think there's a lot of life lessons that can be learned, you know, because you do have to learn patience and stealth and stillness and just, you know, all the things that we have to learn that I think us who are already in it, we may take for granted, you know, because we're just used to doing that. But for someone who's never done it, it's kind of a unique perspective to look at and to take somebody out and get. Introduce them and get them accustomed to how they have to be in order to be successful, I think is. It's kind of special.
Chemaine Nugent
And when. When you say successful, and I've said successful before, my goal when I. When I go hunting is that I literally say a prayer for a quick, humane kill. No hunter wants to have. Wants to wound an animal. Right?
Caitlin Moss
Correct. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's. It's unfortunate it does happen because there are a lot of moving parts hurts. But I think we owe it to the animal to practice ahead of time and be the best that we can to make it a quick and ethical kill. It's just kind of a respect thing that I like to. To do. And I always, when I shoot something, I always give them a little pat, like a thank you and. And, you know, appreciation for it.
Chemaine Nugent
Yeah, I think that's really important. And that's a side. And it's just me, personally, you might be different, but my husband is like, you should be. You should really get excited. And I've seen a lot of hunters, like, just, they're. They're crying, they're so happy. Not crying, but they're laughing and, you know, throwing their hands up in the air. For me, it's just a combination of gratitude and humbleness that I have taken a life. It really is important to me. And it. And I. For me, it's to be in reverence of this animal and the life that it gave.
Caitlin Moss
Yeah, Yeah, I would agree. I think it depends. Like, I do a combination of public land hunting, but I also have a lease that I'm fortunate to hunt. And I'm always very grateful for no matter, you know, what I'm shooting or whatever life I'm taking. Like, I do not take that for granted whatsoever. But I definitely have scenarios where if I am following a certain deer for the whole season or even multiple seasons, and I do finally come together and make that happen on that animal. It's. It's a release for me of many emotions. I'm. I'm grateful, I'm sad, I'm happy. Like, it's a really unique combination, and unless you have experienced it, there's no real way to Truly explain it to somebody, but it is very unique. And it's kind of that thing that. That keeps. Keeps us going back, you know? Yeah.
Chemaine Nugent
For me also, it's like doing aerobics, doing. I. I'm a Zumba instructor, but. But working out and sitting there and not moving. I mean, to be able to come to full draw when an animal is 20 yards in front of you is almost impossible. So it's like. For me, it's very. Like you said, it's a wide variety of emotions from excitement to, oh, my gosh, I gotta be calm. I gotta make sure they're not hearing my heart jumping inside my chest. And it. It's. Yeah. Gratitude and release. And, you know, I think it's really. With this, with what's going on in the world, more and more people are interested in living off the land and becoming stewards, and they're interested in finding out more. I want to help you promote your Caitlin Moss outdoors dot com. Is that right? Caitlinmoss outdoors dot com.
Caitlin Moss
I think my website is just Kaitlyn Moss, but yeah, if you. If you Google it, you'll find it.
Chemaine Nugent
Well, yeah, do you have any. We got about a minute left. Do you have any interesting hunts that you got planned for next year?
Caitlin Moss
Well, we've got turkey season coming up, so I'm pretty excited about that. I love turkey season, but, yeah, I. As far as, like, fall, I just do a lot of deer hunting. That's. That's kind of my bread and butter. It's my favorite. I might go out west just for funsies. But, yeah, kind of anything that comes up, I will. I'm willing to do it, you know.
Chemaine Nugent
Well, good for you. Plus, it's healthy. It keeps you healthy and you're not scrolling. You know, it's. For me, it's like a mental, emotional release. Also, like, I've got to be calm. I've got to sit there still and breathe. And I know that people watch you and they're so excited and you're such a great role model for women hunters. So thank you so much for joining me here today, Caitlin.
Caitlin Moss
Thank you. It was awesome being here.
Chemaine Nugent
God bless you. We'll be right back with my thoughts about what is going on in the world. Are these biblical times. And then, of course, funny pet videos. Don't go away.
Ted Nugent
Well, is the opportunity to be an outsider because it's the outsiders who change the world.
Chemaine Nugent
Perhaps you were born for such a time as this.
Ted Nugent
Well, is the opportunity to be an outsider because it's the outsiders who change the world.
Chemaine Nugent
Perhaps you were born for such a time as this, You know, thousands of years ago, the Bible warned the world would begin to look like what it looks like right now. Jesus said in Matthew 24 there would be war and rumors of wars, nations rising against nations, kingdoms against kingdoms, global tension and instability. And when you step back and look at the headlines today, it's hard not to notice how closely they resemble those warnings. The prophet Ezekiel even described a future conflict involving Israel and a coalition of nations, including Persia, which is what we know today as Iran. Now, that doesn't mean that we can predict exact timelines. The Bible is very clear. No one knows the day or the hour. But it does say that people paying attention would recognize the season. And while all of this tension between nations is rising, something else is happening at the same time. Technology is advancing faster than ever. Artificial intelligence, digital currencies, biometric systems that can track and control financial access. Two thousand years ago, the book of Revelation described a time when people couldn't buy or sell without a mark tied to a system of authority. For centuries, that sounded impossible. But today, that technology exists. But prophecy isn't meant to scare us. It's meant to prepare us. Jesus didn't talk about the end times so his followers would panic, but so that we could stay spiritually alert and grounded. Because the same Bible that warns about difficult days also promises something powerful. That evil doesn't win in the end. Darkness doesn't get the final word. History is moving toward a moment when Christ returns and restores what's been broken. The message isn't fear. The message is to have faith. Because when you read the final chapter of the Bible, you discover something incredibly reassuring. God wins. Pastor Anthony Thomas has a word for us today. Take a look.
Pastor Anthony Thomas
Hello, faith and freedom warriors. This is Pastor Anthony Thomas, Tip of the Spirit Church. I want to encourage you today, all of us in this life, we make mistakes. Mistakes. And if we're honest with ourselves, we make multiple mistakes every single day. Romans picks us up. In Romans 5, 20, it says, where sin abounded. That word sin is an archer's term, and it literally means to miss the mark. So it means we miss the mark all the time. Says, where sin abounded, grace abounded.
Ted Nugent
More.
Pastor Anthony Thomas
What is grace? My favorite definition of grace is this. It's when God does something for you that you could not do for yourself. I got a call late last night from an individual I've been helping out. He's coming off of being addicted to narcotics, and he just called. He said, pastor, I need you to pray for me to get free of this thing. I cannot break loose of it. And we prayed that night. The presence of God came on that phone call. What happened? Where sin abounded, grace abounded more. And that's my prayer for you this week, is that God will send a great amount of grace to help you in the areas you need help in. We all need his grace. Let's go to the throne of grace today and ask him for it. Father. We thank you, God, that you're a gracious God. You sit on the throne of grace. And God, you tell us to come into the throne of grace boldly in the time of need. God, we have need of your grace because all of us are sinners. We miss the mark in many ways. Every single day we ask God that over every area of sin in our life, not only you would forgive us, God, but you would send us grace to break free. You said, whom the son has set free is free indeed. God send grace and send freedom this week for people watching and praying in Jesus mighty name, Amen. God bless you. Have a wonderful week. If you want to see more of our videos, go on. Rumble Tip of the Spear Church Pastor Anthony out.
Chemaine Nugent
A few years ago, I was with Pastor Anthony at Church of Glad Tidings in Yuba City. Pastor with Pastor Dave Bryan. And I actually shot my bow and arrow on stage, cleared it with Pastor Brian. But I. I showed exactly that. I intentionally shot outside of the. The circle. You've. You've seen the bullseye. Each ring around the bullseye is sin one, sin two, sin three. And I intentionally shot outside because Pastor Anthony's right. We all fail miserably. Me, every day, I eat what I shouldn't eat. I say things I probably shouldn't. I do things that I probably shouldn't.
Stacy Smith
I.
Chemaine Nugent
And we're all missing the mark. We could miss the mark in health. We could miss the mark in life. We might not read the Bible at all, ever. There's so many different ways. But we always have an opportunity to try again. And so I love that message with Pastor Anthony Thomas. By the way, just to close up that story, I was able to hit the bullseye on stage at the Church of Glad Tidings in Yuba City, California, demonstrating that there are times when we hit the mark. Not every day, but there are times. So thank you, Pastor Anthony Thomas. And you know, everything's heavy right now, but sometimes the best break comes from right at home with our pets. They don't worry about world events, they don't worry about headlines. They just make life better. So take a look.
Caitlin Moss
Close.
Ted Nugent
One more.
Chemaine Nugent
I don't want to hurt anymore. Okay, just admit it. That's the best part of the whole show. Any show. You got to end every show with funny pet videos. I don't care. Any show here on Rav end with funny pet videos. Because, you know, there is a lot of heaviness in the world, but did that not bring a smile to your face? And that woman's voice is really good. She's very brave to be singing like that and recording it. I sing like I said at the beginning, in segment one, I sing to Jackson. I have a terrible voice, but he just loves it. And I can sing you are my sunshine. And literally, it's the funniest thing. I should tape it other than I'm not that brave because I don't have a good singing voice. But he'll literally start like his. You could see his eyes just getting heavy and he'll nod off. Sometimes it takes two. You are My Sun Shines three. And I can literally put him to sleep. Not me. Just maybe he's just bored. I don't know. But it does bring an overwhelming joy to our lives, having pets. And if you're feeling stressed, look at the guest that we had today. Of course, Ted. He doesn't let stress bother him. He goes every day he goes out and he's hunting something. And I think that's so important. We have to find the things that make our heart sings. Sing. No matter what's going on in this world, there's things we cannot control. And it's getting heavy right now. And if you're thinking the same thing that I and so many other people are thinking is, wow, what the Bible predicted is kind of of. It feels like it's coming true right now. And even Ted said, how did they know? God knows. And this has all been planned. And so at the end, what if we went through each day and just went, you know, whatever happens, God is in control because there are things that. That can hijack our. Our thoughts and our feelings. And then we talked to Stacy and. And talked about moles, what mold can do. Everybody's got it. Hate to tell you this, everybody has been exposed to toxic mold. So if you're one of those people where you're just getting headaches or you don't feel good, you're tired, insomnia, upper respiratory problems, bloody noses, short term memory loss, brain fog, on and on. Check out my book, Killer House. I put everything that I've learned about toxic mold exposure into that book because every single day people are texting me or messaging me. Can you help me? What were your signs? What were the symptoms that you had and how do you remediate? It's different with everybody. But the most important thing, like Stacy said, like my guest said about mold brain, we have got to address it. Don't let it hijack your stress. Don't live in constant fear in that state, constant state of fight or flight because it will wreak havoc on your body. And The Bible says 365. Is it 362 or 365 times? Do not fear. And it's easy to say for it, for me to tell you or for me to even think about that. But there are stressors in our life. And I do this show as a reminder for myself and some of the things that I post on social media. You can follow me on Facebook, Shamaine Nugent and on Instagram at Chemain Nugent. I'm also on X and YouTube. Shamaine. The things I post there are like reminders for myself. Don't live in fear. Work out as much as you can. I'm not perfect. I miss the mark every single day on a lot of things. But I post those things as kind of a reminder and I want to bring you alongside with me. And speaking of that, check out my book abundantly. Well, I've put everything I've learned as a fitness instructor for 46 years. 46 years. I started teaching in 1980 and I've learned a thing or two about how to get in shape, stay in shape without giving up my favorite foods and without spending two hours a day in the gym. And, and I want to share that with you. I want to come right alongside you on a, be your cheerleader and help you get in the best shape of your life. Because, you know, when God calls us, I was telling somebody the other day, you know, it's not about the certain fashion look or designer handbags. I like those things. I like to do my hair and wear makeup and whatever. But the look that I'm going for, the ultimate look, is well done, good and faithful servant. Thank you so much for joining me. Remember, Esther414, you were born for such a time as this. I'll see you next week. God bless.
Ted Nugent
Relish the opportunity to be an outsider because it's the outsiders who change the world.
Chemaine Nugent
Perhaps you were born for such a time as this.
Host: Chemaine Nugent
Guests: Ted Nugent, Stacy Smith (Licensed Professional Counselor, Mold-Literate Naturopathic Practitioner), Kaitlyn Moss (Hunter & Content Creator), Pastor Anthony Thomas (Tip of the Spear Church)
In this episode of Faith and Freedom, Chemaine Nugent brings together themes of American values, faith, health, personal growth, and resilience in turbulent times. She maneuvers through the intersection of current world events (notably war and technological disruptions), spiritual prophecy, wellness, environmental toxins, hunting as a lifestyle, and the essentiality of hope and community. The episode features candid discussions with Ted Nugent on clean living and purpose, expert insights on toxic mold from Stacy Smith, a vibrant conversation with outdoorswoman Kaitlyn Moss about the meaning of hunting, a biblical reflection on prophecy and perseverance, and a faith-forward message from Pastor Anthony Thomas.
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“Perhaps you were born for such a time as this.”