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Perhaps you were born for such a time as this. Hello, everyone, and welcome to Faith and Freedom. I'm Shemaine Nugent. I've known him for 25 years. He's a journalist, a truth teller, and still one of the good ones. Steve Gruber is the host of America's Voice Live and the Steve Gruber show right here on Real America's Voice, and he joins me live right now. Welcome, Steve Shamaine.
Steve Gruber (Journalist and Host)
Good afternoon. Nice to see you.
Charmaine Nugent (Faith and Freedom Host)
Good to see you, too. So my question for you is, how does a nice guy like you end up in a place like this? You and I go. Go way back, like over 30 years, right?
Steve Gruber (Journalist and Host)
Yeah. We've been on the same networks a few different times now, going back to the hunting and outdoor stuff that we all did together. And, you know, Ted and I and you as well, harassing wildlife all over the planet. So, yeah, we've done this a lot. And look, real America's voice, what the Sigs did here is brilliant. And they gave an opportunity for real Americans to be heard, not the garbage mainstream media. And so obviously, we all gravitate to that. You, me, Ted. It only makes sense that we would come to a place where we're allowed to speak our mind without being censored, without being marginalized. I think it's great, and I'm glad to be here.
Charmaine Nugent (Faith and Freedom Host)
Well, speaking of telling the truth, and that's what you do so well on your shows, I want to hear about something that you've been uncovering lately, and the rest of the media has really dropped the ball on, and that is fentanyl. Because this isn't just some sort of drug story. It's hitting families. It's everyday, normal families. Walk me through what you're seeing in regards to that.
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Well, one of the most startling stories that I've uncovered so far right here in Michigan is a little town called Rapid River. It's just north of Escanaba in the up right, 335 people, they've buried five of their own in the last year. Five of their own that they've buried from fentanyl in a year. A little town right next to us called Nema. It has 25 total souls. Over there, one of those killed by fentanyl. You look at this. Traverse City, Michigan. Everybody knows Traverse City. Eight people died there in a month. So while the people on the left are out there screaming about, oh, you can't blow up these drug boats, you know, it's just cocaine, Chemain, it's just weed or whatever they're saying. Look, a friend of mine, good guy, fishing guy, the guy that Ivy and I have gotten to know pretty well over the last couple years, fishing with him and getting to know him, his son, 19 year old college kid, died last year. What did he do? Went out on a weekend, took a couple of hits off a joint. You know, college kid thing. It slates with fentanyl, he dies. I mean, these are the kind of real stories that impact families. If you're in a town of 335 people, Rapid River Michigan is not exactly the, the crossroads of a major city or anything else. It's 2,000 miles from the border and people are dying. And it's just, it's a terrible, gut wrenching thing and it's just an awful story. But the problem is what people are telling. And I appreciate you saying this. You had to put a human face on this. You know, it's Christmas. How many people are not going to have Christmas today with a loved one or two? There's a story out of Birmingham. A woman lost two sons one day. And a third girl there, 17, 20 and 22, all died because they got laced with fentanyl. They didn't know, they thought they were taking something else. Bam. And they're dead. Look, you talk to these parents, these angel moms and dads as they call themselves, that are burying their sons, their daughters, their friends, their neighbors and they will tell you they don't care about the boats getting blown out of the water that are delivering drugs. And look, you fished once or twice. I fished once or twice. Might have been on a charter boat here or there. I've never seen a charter boat with five matching 400 horse Merc Cruisers across the back with 55 gallon drums. That's no fishing boat I've ever seen. All right, let's just be clear about that. So we have to put a human face on this because those on the left are ignoring the true tragedy. It's an American tragedy. And in fact, I would go a step further. I'd say it's an act of war. These chemicals start in China, they're usually combined in places like Venezuela and Mexico and then it's shipped over the border, however it gets here and it's sprinkled into the other street drugs to make them even more addictive. Except the Guys that are doing it, they're not real scientific about it. Oh, just throw a little bit in there. And what happens is another guy, like my friend's 19 year old son, good kid in college, isn't here with us anymore. In fact, here's the way I put it. Before the stroke of midnight today, several more people will die in Michigan. 225 will die across this country before the stroke of midnight tonight from overdoses related to this illegal illicit drug. She mean it's a horrible tragedy. You know the faces of fentanyl that you see there, pay attention. These are real families that are going through real pain and it's really a story that needs to be told.
Charmaine Nugent (Faith and Freedom Host)
And it's so tragic. And here's what I don't get, Steve. You got kids dying in suburbs and small towns everywhere, but there's still this perception that it's somebody else's problem. How do you break through that? And what can you share with moms and dads and young people today that are watching this?
Steve Gruber (Journalist and Host)
Look, I pounded into my, I have a 13 year old son, right? He's here with me. A little getaway here during the Christmas holiday season and got one of my nephews with me. He's also 13. I pounded into these kids every day. But you can only do so much. You tell them, look, you deviate once, you screw around once, it can be the last time. You screw around forever. Don't do that to your mother is what I say. Don't do that to your father. Look there, there are people that have their priorities all wrong and that's criminals that are in and out of jail. You know, you see these stories too. You know, a Guy's been arrested 50 times and he punches some elderly woman in the side of the head because you have a criminal justice system that's failing Americans. You've got the border that was open under the Biden administration for years. This stuff just flowed in. Look, these cartels were cashing in on the misery of Americans feeding this addiction. And they'll say, well, you couldn't do this without customers, but you create customers. And so I think this administration is going in the right direction. Closing the border, cracking down, stopping these narco terrorist boats. I think that I agree with that. And I have yet to meet an angel, mom or dad that says that's the wrong thing to do. In fact, they said, hell yeah, I'm all for it, as they should be, but is there a solution? We're working on it. You got to tighten it down. Look Declaring fentanyl a weapon of mass destruction. Step in the right direction, I think.
Charmaine Nugent (Faith and Freedom Host)
I wonder why. Steve, why do you think that the media, mainstream media, isn't talking about this at all and we're not seeing the real human cost for every single life and every single family on mainstream media.
Steve Gruber (Journalist and Host)
Well, think about this. Well, first of all, they're complicit. To answer your question, they stood there slack jawed and glassy eyed while the border remained open. They told us, oh, nothing you can do without immigration reform. Obviously that's not true. Border crossings are down 97%. So you see, there's an absolute failure. The media is complicit and they've been complicit in overlooking the fact that these people are on a revolving door when it comes to crimes that they commit. I mean, you look what's happened in Washington D.C. since Donald Trump rolled out the National Guard. Homicides are at a 40 year low. Carjackings are down 75%. Sexual assault's down 35%. The fact of the matter is if you step in and do your job, then you're going to save people's lives. You live in Texas, right? So we saw during the border invasion, during the Biden years, not only did they just leave the border open, they reopened it. When the state of Texas put down razor wire at the river, the front end loaders came in and pushed that razor wire out of the way and lifted up so people could flood in. We don't know who these people were. They're unvetted, they're unchecked. And then they're unleashed on America. Another big problem, a lot of those folks were drug mules. I mean, yes, step one was closing the border, but you talk about the fatalities. Think about this. Every ten days an equal number of people die of overdose in this country as we have nine, 11. Excuse me, nine, 11. Every 10 days, every eight months, you have as many people that has died in the Vietnam War dying from this overdose, from this poison. And so the media, look, they were the propaganda arm for the Democrats and the open border. No, it's not that big a deal. Oh, you're xenophobic. No, I'm not xenophobic, I can assure you. But I am opposed to people that don't follow the laws. I am opposed to people that come here and pass out poison to our kids. And it's not just kids, by the way. I just heard of a guy today who was in his 60s, thought he was taking an oxycodone pill. No. Laced with Fentanyl done right there. This is a. This is an epidemic of poison killing our folks here in America, and it's being stopped, but there's a lot of work to be done.
Charmaine Nugent (Faith and Freedom Host)
You know what, Steve? It almost seems like it's intentional.
Steve Gruber (Journalist and Host)
It does. You know, look, I said it's an act of war if China is creating the components and then selling them to Mexico. Of the eight drug cartels that Donald Trump said are foreign terrorist organizations, two are in Venezuela, six were in Mexico. And you've got Claudia Sheinbaum there, the president of Mexico, saying, we will never allow America to come in here and, you know, breach our sovereignty, blah, blah, blah. Look, clean up your act in Mexico now. They've arrested almost 40,000 people since Donald Trump said, you need to get this cleaned up or something bad is going to happen. We know where their networks are. We know where the drug factories are. We know where their. Where their rat lines are, where they're moving drugs. We've got these things, I think they're called predator drones. Pretty effective piece of equipment for neutralizing terrorists. And if these are truly terrorist organizations, which I believe they are, when you're killing that many people and you're killing 100,000Americans or more. Fentanyl, plus the other street drugs, plus the other things that get in, oxycodone, whatever it is that are fake pills being, you know, created illegally in other countries and brought here. There's a lot we can do. I'm. The media is complicit. The Democrats are complicit. And you listen to these clowns now. I mean, they'll lie about anything, Shemaine. I mean, Bill Clinton's all over the Epstein files. Well, yeah, but we don't really know the context of that. Give me a break. I mean, come on. These guys have been trying to get Donald Trump on garbage charges for years. And here's Bill Clinton in a hot tub, half dressed young women with Jeffrey Epstein. Oh, yeah. That doesn't mean anything, really.
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Perhaps you were born for such a time as this. We're back with longtime friend and fellow journalist right here on Real America's Voice, Steve Gruber. Steve, welcome back.
Steve Gruber (Journalist and Host)
Good to be here.
Charmaine Nugent (Faith and Freedom Host)
We were just getting started. You're a journalist, you do radio, you do tv. What made you say, look at this problem of fentanyl affecting our families and goes, I want to make a documentary about it?
Steve Gruber (Journalist and Host)
Well, you know, it was my friend last year, my friend Kevin, who lost his 19 year old son and you say, wait a second. And I'm seeing all these people, you know, scream a war crime or whatever because we're blowing these drug delivery boats out of the water. Look, we need to hold these people accountable. And so that's why I started digging into it and I started finding places like Rapid River, Michigan that lost five people out of a town of 335. I mean, you think that doesn't have impact? So I started talking to people up there. It's on Little Bay to knock. You know, anybody who's ever fished walleye in their life or smallmouth knows where that is. Sportsmen flock to this part of the state of Michigan for the great fishing and so forth. And these towns are just devastated. They have support groups there and they're all working together to try to get each other through it. And so it's incredibly important in moving stories, you know, and I think that we don't put a human face on it enough when you think that the same number of people that died in 9, 11 die every 10 days from this poison. It's a story that has to be told. So and I don't just want to give the horror stories of it and I don't just want to give the stories that are angel moms and dads. I want to talk about what we can do to do better. You know, what can we do to make it better? Because there is hope here. I had a woman on today on the program here on Real America's Voice who lost her son two years ago. He was 34 years old, good guy, working, had a job, took one oxycodone pill, laced, bam. And that's it. And that's what's driving me to do this right. So we do have. Thank you for mentioning that. We have a documentary in development. We've got the preliminary green light, and we're going to go find these stories not just of loss, but of hope and how communities come together. I mean, that's small town America, Chemain. You've lived there. I've lived there my entire life. These communities come together and they hold each other together when they're just, well, they feel like they can just fall apart. I mean, just the devastating loss of a child, unimaginable amounts of pain when it was completely avoidable. Again, how many people did we lose because we left that border open, right? That was unnecessary and preventable. I mean, that, that haunts me. I can only imagine what it does to parents that have lost children.
Charmaine Nugent (Faith and Freedom Host)
You know, you talk about small town and people coming together. Ephesians 6:12, 18 talks about, you know, we don't wrestle flesh and blood, but mainstream media would have you think that we are. This is not who we are. We come together as families and we help each other. But I want to find out a little bit more about your investigative process to discover who's really behind this. I would think that if you have somebody, your friend's son who was smoking a joint that was laced with fentanyl, where did that joint come from? Who got it? How'd they get it? Who supplied them? And can't we go after those bad guys?
Steve Gruber (Journalist and Host)
Same question I asked a woman that was on with me this morning from Traverse City, Michigan, who lost her son two years ago. I said, what happened to the drug dealer? She says, in the wind. You don't know because they just, you know, they're out there in the mix and you don't know who it came from. And after he'd been dead for a day or two before they found him in his house, you don't know where'd the joint come from? You're on a college campus, People come, people go. Product passes, hands 6, 8, 10 times, who knows how much, right? It Gets passed around, moved around. And then there's the problem. Nobody's held accountable. So I would suggest that maybe it'd be a good idea in 2026 on the to do list. If you're a dealer and you deal fentanyl and there's a fatality that results from that, the penalties have to be stiff, maybe even a life sentence if you. I mean, that's. That's willful disregard for human life. It's manslaughter at the minimum. I would say manslaughter because it's human willful disregard for human life. And maybe there should be an executive order on that. Maybe you could finally find some Democrats to get on board with the Republicans and have a bipartisan solution to holding these drug dealers accountable for what they've done to this country. And that is kill. I mean, over the last 10 years, that's a million people or more that have died in this country because of this poison. And so I think that we have to hold these people far more accountable. We have to have an education system that's far better. Look, this is how silly it is. I have a gentleman that comes on this program regularly with me, Scott King. Here's all he does. He gets fentanyl or not fentanyl. He gets Narcan, and he gets people to give him donations so he can buy Narcan to give it away for free. I carry Narcan in my truck. Not because any of my family, you know, uses any of these drugs. But you never know anymore. She mean, you could be at the shopping center, you could be at your kid's school. You could be driving down the street and there's somebody having a fatal overdose. And if you got the Narcan with you, make it available. I think Narcan should be free across this country. Is it the solution? No, but maybe we'd lose less people. Maybe you'd bury less people. Maybe have a chance to. To fight back a little bit. If you get these people cleaned up.
Charmaine Nugent (Faith and Freedom Host)
Do you think that we should go as far as making marijuana illegal and, you know, in Colorado.
Steve Gruber (Journalist and Host)
Well, I have never agreed. You know, I have never agreed with marijuana being legal. All right, I'll just say that in Michigan it's legal. It's. There's a weed shop on every corner here in Michigan now they legalize.
Charmaine Nugent (Faith and Freedom Host)
I know, and I smell it. I smell it when we're driving by. We live part time in Michigan, and I feel sorry for the neighbors that have to live next to that. I wouldn't want to. Ted Kind of likes the smell, but whatever.
Steve Gruber (Journalist and Host)
You drive down i96, the fastest piece of highway in America, by the way. You drive down I96 doing 80, 90 miles an hour legally, for the most part, and you can smell weed wafting into the car as you're going down the expressway. How much weed is being pounded in some vehicle in front of you to smell it going down the highway at that speed? And you're right, you smell it everywhere. And what we've done is we've normalized it and said, oh, kids, it's fine. It's no different than alcohol. Marijuana today is many times more powerful than it was when I was, you know, 15 years old or whatever. Right back when, when I was in middle school or high school or college. It is so much more powerful. It's psychoactive. It has a negative impact on adolescent brains. It's well documented. Now, do I agree with Donald Trump saying, let's delist it down from a Class 1 to a Class 3 so we can study it? Yeah, because if somebody has cancer and they can't eat, I got no problem with that. If somebody has a medical issue where the marijuana or the CBD byproduct or whatever can help them, no problem with that. But just making recreational legal, recreational marijuana legal. I've never agreed with decriminalizing. I can live with that to a point. But no, I've never thought it should be fully legal. I know what it's like in Colorado, the first state that brought it in and fully legalized it, their homeless population exploded. The number of car accidents went up. I mean, you can run all the stats. It's all there. I mean, they don't want to talk about it.
Charmaine Nugent (Faith and Freedom Host)
When I go skiing in Colorado, I mean, I have to tell. When I'm riding up the gondola and I'm riding up with a bunch of young people and they're smoking pot. I have to say something. Look, I don't want to smoke or I don't want to ski high. Can you stop that? It's so prevalent in those areas where it is legalized. I do think something needs to happen. I don't know what, but I want to get back to your documentary just before we go. How are you going to find these people? Because I would imagine that not everybody wants to talk about it. I mean, especially, you know, you've got kids who are going to colleges and universities or folks probably make a lot of money and they probably don't want to talk about it. But how do you find these people?
Steve Gruber (Journalist and Host)
You know, it's interesting you say that because the woman that was on with me this morning, the mom from Traverse City who buried her son, said the problem is not enough people talk about it. She goes, I don't care. I'm going to talk about it. She goes, people are worried about the stigma. She says, I'm worried about the next kid that's going to die. So it does take some courage. It takes some courage to step up and say, yeah, my kid died of fentanyl. And it breaks my heart. But let me tell you my story, so it won't be your story. So I've already found Rapid River, Escanaba, Nema, right there, Little Beta Knock, Traverse City. I've identified a bunch of people. I've identified people outside of Fort Wayne, Indiana. Bluffton, Indiana, small town again, back, you know, back Eddy Town, pretty cool place. I found some people outside of Columbus, Ohio. The fact of the matter is, once you start doing this, the stories start to show themselves. And you'll find the people that want to talk and you'll find those that don't. And I respect that. I respect their privacy. But in order to save people, you got to step up and say, look, this is what's happening. We're losing over 100,000 people a year to this poison. And they talk about the Democrats twist this. Well, you know, the life expectancy in America is coming down. That's because the number one killer of people 18 to 48 in this country, I think, is the section is driving down our life expectancy. If you lose 100,000 people that are under 50 years of age, it drives down the life expectancy numbers in a country. I mean, the math is the math. And so, look, we can find these people. I've already found a bunch of them. The series is called Steve Gruber's Forgotten America, a series that I did a few episodes a number of years ago, but that's the banner we're going to launch this under and hopefully other stories. I mean, this isn't the only story of forgotten America. I mean, and that's who Donald Trump appealed to, the people that thought they were forgotten, ignored, left out, you know, made fun of for being, you know, people that believed in God, country, faith, Christmas. You know, these are the people that have been marginalized in this country. And that's what resonated with a majority of Trump voters, are the people who thought that nobody cared what they thought until he came along. And I think that there is a change, a sea change in attitude.
Charmaine Nugent (Faith and Freedom Host)
Now, where are People going to be able to watch this and how can they get involved, follow you, follow your journey and reporting about this?
Steve Gruber (Journalist and Host)
Well, we're just going to get into development so I don't know where it probably end up. Hearing Real America's Voice. We'll see how that plays out. But it's in development, don't have a home for it yet. But they can always, always send me an email. Then go to stevegruber.com send me an email. Tell me your personal story. Tell me what you know about this drug. Maybe you were a user, maybe you weren't. Maybe you know somebody who died. That's one thing. And of course on social media, at Steve Gruber's show on X and Facebook and all the normal usual suspects, you can find me there. But I look forward to your stories, folks. If you're watching this program, you've got a story, share it with me again. SteveGiver.com send me an email. We want to dig deeper. We want to tell the real story, put a real face to it, a real American face to it so people can relate.
Charmaine Nugent (Faith and Freedom Host)
And Steve, when is your show available here on Real America's Voice? How can people follow you twice a.
Steve Gruber (Journalist and Host)
Day, every day, 6am I start the broadcast day here in Real America's Voice with the Steve Gruber show and then three to four every afternoon with America's Voice live. And in between that, I do two, three hours of radio. And you know, they ride me like a rented mule around here. It's okay, I'm used to it. Ride me like a rented mule. I'm telling you, it's good though. I like it. I love my job. I do. I love what we do here. And doing stories like this is, it's my passion. It is.
Charmaine Nugent (Faith and Freedom Host)
Steve, thank you so much for joining me. God bless you.
Steve Gruber (Journalist and Host)
Chemain, always good to see you. Thank you.
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Hello.
Terry Newsom (Citizen Journalist)
Thanks for having me back.
Charmaine Nugent (Faith and Freedom Host)
Absolutely, anytime. So you were there. I want to get into a couple things with you. You were there on January 6, before we get into anything else. Just set the scene. What happened? What did you actually see?
Terry Newsom (Citizen Journalist)
Yeah, you know, one of my friends really, really pushed me to go. He was just retired as a police officer. So we drove and got there at the last minute and we went there with two intentions. One, to see, see our president speak and then two, because I saw what happened in November and December. Right. And how people were attacked by antifa on the left. And we wanted to make sure, you know, even though we're old guys, we're in our 60s, to do our best to make sure that, you know, families and people weren't attacked by antifa like they previously were. There was no intent of a, you know, I didn't even know about the going to the Capitol until the morning of. So we, we had no intent on this insurrection at all. The way we were dressed, the way we were dressed to protect us. You know, four guys got stabbed in December by BLM soup cans. I was told about all the horror stories of what antifa does and that's why all those people were dressed the way we were dressed, not to fight or go into the capitol at all. So we got there, we got into the Marriott about 1 o' clock in the morning and sure enough, antifa guys drove by and yelled and screamed they were going to break the Windows on every car in that park parking lot. Fast forward to January 7th. They did what they did. We moved to a different parking lot, so they were there. And so we met in the morning at 6:00 with guys from the Chicago, Illinois, Proud Boys. There was 3 percenters. So we walked with them to see Trump speak. And, you know, true fashion, these elderly ladies said, can. Can we walk with you over there? She's like, I'm like, yeah, of course you can. She goes, thank you so much. And that made me feel good because that, you know, people' shouldn't feel like that. Right.
Charmaine Nugent (Faith and Freedom Host)
I mean, I mean, this is the United States of America. We should be able to walk the streets. If you're young or older, no matter what race. I want to jump forward just a little bit because we're pressed on time. We're years out now. We're years out, and people still have no idea what happened. They look at mainstream media and that fiasco. What's the biggest lie that's being pushed right now?
Terry Newsom (Citizen Journalist)
Well, first and foremost, there was no planned insurrection or coordinated attack, hands down. Now we see that there's been, I think, what they say about 225 FBI, either agents or confidential informants. Absolutely 100% knew that from the minute we got there. Right. Because we were right behind Ray Ops, me and my buddy. Oh, there you go. Here's the FBI informant.
Charmaine Nugent (Faith and Freedom Host)
And whatever, Whatever happened to Ray Epps?
Terry Newsom (Citizen Journalist)
Right, right. That's another example of what was going on in a major conspiracy behind the scenes by the Biden administration. You know, as we, as we walked up to the, to the Capitol, we were right behind him. We went, you know, we were flying a camera in a flagpole. I didn't yell, I didn't scream. I didn't touch anything. I didn't go in the Capitol. We left at the last line when there was fighting between the officers and the protesters. And then that video you show was on the way out when Jacob Chansley walked by yelling, freed. And that guy, that was fully covered, that guy with the megaphone was covered from head to toe. And I knew right away. And when I filmed him and afterwards, I'm like, that's weird. That guy's standing there by himself right there, and he's screaming at the approaching Trump folks. Take a picture. Show the world. At 131, these people were walking towards the Capitol. No one entered the capitol till about 205, I think, and we were walking out from the Capitol. Why was that guy standing alone, had his hair covered, wrapp With a scarf, a hat, ear muffs, gloves. We couldn't see his. Anything with the color of his hair or anything. He was there on purpose. You don't go there and do that alone and scream into a megaphone telling people, take pictures, show the world what happened with those pictures. Right. How many people got arrested? Yeah, lots of people got arrested because of that. And you know what's, what's interesting is, you know, now, now I'm in my 60s and, and I haven't gotten any trouble in 35 years. And I ran a police FOIA myself. I'm sorry, FBI FOIA. In May, they. Three hundred and forty six pages on me, the FBI, they said, it's going to take four years to get my voice back to me. Why this is under the Trump administration. You know, I was subsequently put on a domestic terrorist watch list. We saw that the Southern Poverty Law center, they were investigating through Congress last week. Well, an antifa member for the Southern Poverty Law center wrote a story from Chicago, and then they started tagging the FBI saying that I tried to overthrow the government. When we asked Mr. Newsom that, no answer. They never even talked to me. So. So after that story, after the Southern Poverty Law center and the antifa guys started tagging the FBI, 10 days later, I was suddenly on a domestic terrorist watch list.
Charmaine Nugent (Faith and Freedom Host)
You know, the narrative got set right away, like within hours, who was driving that? What's behind that? And, you know, the American people are. We're just exhausted, and we want accountability. We want to see some accountability over this.
Terry Newsom (Citizen Journalist)
They have to do that. Right? I mean, I'm lucky. You know, the FBI showed up to my. My house a few years ago. Charmaine. I thought I was going to jail. I didn't even go in. But I saw the horror stories. They actually came because antifa was threatened my life. That's a whole different story. And then they go, oh, by the way, we know you were at January 6th. Did you go in? Did you hit any officers? Did you destroy property? I go, guys, it's been two years. I thought you were here for something else because we had to ask you. I go, I'm assuming you know where everybody was. I had my phone. My friend had his phone. He was a Cook county sheriff. He had his Cook county sheriff hat on. He just retired. You know, we had no. Until we left. He goes, yeah, we know that. We just wanted to ask you, but it's kind of concerning and that, you know, they, they're able to use whatever they did to investigate me or whatever to document 346 pages. I want to know, and I hope you know, if anyone, politics or congressmen are watching, I think you guys would want to know. This ties into the weaponization of your investigation right now. Now you know, why did they do this? Think. Yeah. Thank God Matt Gates saw the Epic Times stories about it. Congressman McGates and Congressman Troy Neals both connected with me on their own. Matt Gates sent a demand letter to Garland Ray and Mayorkas demanding to know, why did you do this? Because he's a vocal school board dad. Or peacefully attended January 6th. Garland Ray and Mayorkas all acknowledged the letter. They never got back to Matt Gaetz. Never. So you would think if they labeled American citizen as a terrorist, you would say he did X, Y and Z. They never answered the man because I didn't do anything. Troy Neal sent the TSA a letter in my behalf. They got back to him and told Troy, well, he no longer fits the profile to have the privilege. The privilege to be a TSA PreCheck. Where out of the blue, did that happen from? What did I do? I didn't do anything wrong. Right. I fly internationally for, you know, I, I mean, it was crazy that they did that. And then they also labeled my, My. My wife and children as quad asses. As Charlie Kirk.
Charmaine Nugent (Faith and Freedom Host)
Seriously?
Terry Newsom (Citizen Journalist)
Yeah. I got pictures of what, you know, my wife was. And my kids were only 15. My daughter's an Eagle Scout, and. And they were VIP guests of Charlie, all expenses paid. And they, they, yeah, they pulled him out of line. My, you know, my wife was. She hates the politics. Right. And she went because the kids were, you know, going to tpusa. We went as a family, and we missed our flights on the way out there. On the way back. They checked my family twice. I got it all on camera. Camera, you know, and it's at the airport.
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At the airport they did at o'.
Terry Newsom (Citizen Journalist)
Hare and in a Phoenix. And I got to figure out how to block their faces out because I, you know, I don't want to. You know, my kids just started college and my wife's upset, but you could see it in their faces and stuff. And I, I'm really pissed off at what they did. You know, they labeled my family that.
Charmaine Nugent (Faith and Freedom Host)
I'm sure. I mean, the cost personally to you and to so many others has been extraordinary. But when you look at what the J6 defendants have gone through and how they've been treated, especially in jail, say, for example, versus people who were burning buildings when they were saying, oh, it's a mostly peaceful protest and Cars are exploding in the background. We've only got about a minute left, Terry, but does that make you angry?
Terry Newsom (Citizen Journalist)
Oh, yeah, ladies. So, for instance, the Chicago, the Chicago ICE center, right? I've been over there with Ben Berkwam and all those guys and filming these people attacking ice, right? Dick Durbin was, was doing a press conference and I yelled at him. I go, should these people attacking federal officers be treated the same way as the ones from January 6th? I got it on camera. He looks at me, makes a face like, screw you, right? I mean, remember how the uproar they said about all these people that were in. And I believe anyone that attacks law enforcement should be punished. These guys were being sent to jail without a trial and, you know, multiple, multiple years here in Chicago, they're praising them. Matter of fact, they want them to attack the ICE agents. They're federal officers just like the other officers. The hypocrisy is disgusting. And I hope, I hope someone's watching this that has the ability to go and find out who put Terry Newsom on a watch list. And then once they get letters from congressmen who had the authority to take them off, it shouldn't be that easy to put someone on and take them off a list. As an American citizen, I'd like to know who did that and what's in those 346 pages that you guys documented from, from me at 60 years old when I didn't commit any crimes.
Charmaine Nugent (Faith and Freedom Host)
Terry, thank you so much for sharing your story and thank you for joining me. I hope you could come back with better news.
Terry Newsom (Citizen Journalist)
Thank you. I appreciate it.
Charmaine Nugent (Faith and Freedom Host)
God bless. Don't go away everyone. We'll be right back.
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Perhaps you were born for such a time as this. You know, in times like these, when the news is so heavy and the world just feels like it's turned upside down, we need voices that remind us where our strength really comes from. And I always like to end this faith and freedom show by filling your spirit back up. And there's no better way to do that. With with then with Pastor Anthony Thomas from Tip of the Spear Church. He's a warrior for faith, a shepherd to his community, and someone who always seems to have the exact words that I need to hear. Take it away.
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Pastor Anthony hello Faith and Freedom Warriors. I Want to share an experience with you that I had last night. Dear friend of mine called me and told me that a friend and someone I'd done ministry with for years and another state was in hospital hospice and on his way to entering into eternity. And we called each other last. I called him last night and we spoke. And how many of you know when you're at the very end of your life and at your last conversation, you don't waste time with things that were base. We shared words of strength, words of encouragement with one another. And then his final remark to me was, pastor, I love you. I'll see you in heaven, boy. It touched my heart. I got off the phone and tears came out my eyes. And I want to encourage you this. Jesus said, rejoice, for your name is written in the Lamb's book of life. 2026 is going to be an awesome year. Two and six together is eight. Eight is the number of new beginnings. It's going to be a year of great strength, a year of great victory, and a year where we're going to see the enemy defeated in massive ways. But I want to encourage you this. There is nothing more powerful in this life than knowing where you are going when you step from this life to the next. And there's only one way to do that, and that is through Jesus Christ. I want to pray for you, Father. We thank you, Lord, that heaven is our destination. We're in this life just a short amount of time. And, God, we have another year that's come to an end and another year that's about ready to dawn. I'm asking God, your presence would now move, even right now into 20, 20, 26. Yet it be a year, God, of new beginnings, a year of strength. A year, God, of great defeat upon the enemy and great victories for heaven. But, God, we thank you and we thank you that you sent your son Jesus to die for us. God, if we have saving faith in him and we call upon him, we will spend eternity with you and with those who loved him in heaven. God bless you. Love you guys. Have a great year. If you want to follow the messages, I'm going to be doing a prophetic message. You may want to watch it. Go on, rumble. Put Tip of the Spirit Church Naples or go Tip of the spirit church.org God bless you. Pastor Anthony out.
Charmaine Nugent (Faith and Freedom Host)
Thank you, Pastor Anthony. I needed to hear that today, such a powerful message. And I wanted to let you guys know that coming in February perhaps. Stay tuned. Ted and I might be appearing at Pastor Anthony's Tip of the Spirit Church. I just kind of suggested maybe. Maybe Pastor Anthony needs a worship leader. And I know this guitar player who could be available. So I'll give you more details on that coming soon. But, you know, we've covered so much on this show. Some heavy stuff. Fentanyl and affecting families. And January 6th, families and lives are torn apart and people are left behind. And I think it's really important that after conversations like that, we just need to breathe, we just need to pause and let it all settle in. Because here's the thing. We can't carry the weight of the world on our shoulders alone. It's not our job. That's God's job. And he tells us in Matthew 11:28, Come to me, all who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Rest is not weakness. Rest is wisdom. And when the world feels dark, and let's be honest, some days it feels really dark, I can only imagine what Steve Gruber went through when his friend's good friend's son passed away. I mean, and we've all had to experience deaths in our families. And sometimes it just feels really dark. And faith is what pulls us through. Not faith that everything's going to be easy, because God never said that, but faith that we're not walking through it alone. And I'm grateful. I really am. I'm grateful for this life. I'm grateful for my family. I'm grateful for everyone here at Real America's Voice. Grateful to have the responsibility that we have to be able to talk, to speak truth, and to shine our light and to love each other. Well, because that's a gift. And every single day is a gift. So. So I want to leave you with hope today. Not fear, because fear is. Fear is a liar. Fear keeps you paralyzed. Fear is not of God, but hope. Hope is what gets you out of bed. Hope is what makes you fight for what really matters. Hope is what. Saying that tomorrow can be better than today. And sometimes all we can do is just put one foot in front of the other. And that's good enough. Especially, you know, when we have those dark days, it's okay to pause, take a deep breath. I know one of my New Year's resolutions is going to be to slow down. We're living in an age where, you know, we're doing so much at the same time. You know, we're texting family and friends and, you know, giving directions or walking our dogs when we're not fully immersed. And it's almost like when I talk about My dogs, they know that I'm not fully immersed in what they're doing. I'm not paying full attention when I throw Jackson the ball and I'm still talking on the phone. One of my New Year's resolutions is to let go of all that and to just be present in every single moment. Take more me time to rest. Rest is good. That's why God wants to do that on the Sabbath, to take a break. So. So speaking of taking a break before we go, you know I love a good laugh. So let's lighten things up with some funny pet videos. Take a look. Actually feeling it.
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Did you love that as much as I did? And I thank my producer Rodney for experiencing Saturday night texts from me in the middle of the night. Not in the middle of the night, but 11 o' clock at night is when I watch these funny pet videos and I'll text him, we gotta show this one. So thank you for having patience, Rodney and everybody at Real America's Voice. You know, we've got to lighten up. The world can feel so heavy. And I've talked to a few friends, especially during the holidays. We're all overwhelmed and now we've got a new year. So how are you going to make this new year different? What are you going to do differently? It's not about just losing 10 pounds or cutting out sugar or alcohol or whatever it is. I think real lasting change. And one thing that I'm going to do is I'm going to put down my phone at night at least two hours before I go to bed. I'm just gonna shut it off. Nothing good happens after 8 o' clock on your phone. You just mindlessly scroll and one minute leads into the next and to the next into the next. Do you notice that it's like 20 minutes later and I hear Ted. Ted's always listening to and watching car shows and watching hunting things and you know, it's kind of what they call mindless. And we've really got to re engage our minds and these phones don't do it for us. So that's one of my New Year's resolutions, is to fast. From cell phones and social media and screens, big screens, you'll sleep better. I know I do. When I cut out cell phone use a couple hours before I go to sleep, I sleep much better. And my mind's that constantly going. So one of My New Year's resolutions right there. If you are looking to get healthier and feel better, because that's really what it's all about, we can't. I was talking to a friend, Tina Griffin, I got to get her on the show. And she goes, you know, we can't go across the finish line crawling. You know, when our time is up here, we don't want to be crawling across the finish line. We want to go across the finish line going, yes, I'm strong, I'm healthy. I want to be that type of person. So if you want to be healthier and strengthen your faith at the same time, I wanna tell you about my book. One of them is called Abundantly well, it's a 40 day journey. Now is a great time to start it. Grab a couple of books, grab a couple of friends. I promise you in 40 days you will be a healthier person. You're gonna learn all my secrets. I taught a Zumba class the other day and I hadn't seen a couple of the gals. I've been teaching Zumba forever, teaching group fitness for 45 years. And another woman said, how is it that you don't age? How is it that you're the same shape? I share all my secrets in my books, but check out abundantly. Well, it's a 40 day journey to weight loss, more energy and vibrant health, all rooted in biblical wisdom. I wrote it because after more than 45 years in fitness, I've learned that real wellness starts from the inside out. I could write a diet book or just an exercise book, but it's gotta be mind, body and spirit. And this book will meet you right where you're at. I'll walk alongside you no matter where you are in your health and wellness journey. I'll be beside you every step of the way, sharing biblical wisdom and all the tips and tricks that I've learned. 45 years in the fitness industry. And if you're someone, if you or someone else is dealing with some unexplained illness, fatigue, brain fog, please pick up my book. Killer House. Toxic mold almost killed me. I don't want that to happen to you. Don't forget, Esther414, you were born for such a time as this. I'll see you right here next week. Thanks so much for joining me.
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This episode of "Faith & Freedom" on Real America’s Voice, hosted by Charmaine Nugent, delivers a deep dive into the human cost and national crisis of the fentanyl epidemic and raises urgent questions about accountability in media and government. The discussions include investigative journalist Steve Gruber’s reporting on fentanyl’s devastation in small-town America, citizen journalist Terry Newsom’s firsthand experience of January 6th and its aftermath, and closes with an uplifting reflection and prayer from Pastor Anthony Thomas. The episode balances hard-hitting investigative journalism with compassionate, faith-based encouragement for listeners navigating challenging times.
Guest: Steve Gruber
Segment: [02:50] – [13:15], [17:11] – [28:50]
Guest: Terry Newsom
Segment: [33:37] – [43:36]
Guest: Pastor Anthony Thomas
Segment: [47:20] – [49:36]
Host: Charmaine Nugent
Segment: [49:36] – [58:45]
On Fentanyl’s Impact:
On Government Accountability:
On January 6 Aftermath:
On Speaking Out:
On Hope and Faith:
Faith-based Closing:
| Segment | Timestamp | |---------------------------------- |------------| | Fentanyl Crisis & Media | 02:50-13:15 | | Gruber on Motivation/Docu | 17:11-19:50 | | Investigative Challenges | 19:50-22:38 | | Drugs Policy/Legalization | 22:38-25:14 | | Forgotten America & Participation | 25:14-27:34 | | January 6 First-person (Newsom) | 33:37-43:36 | | Pastor Anthony’s Prayer | 47:20-49:36 | | Final Host Reflections | 49:36-54:34 |
The episode maintains its trademark blend of earnest, unapologetic conservative commentary, investigative journalism, and faith-based encouragement. Both host and guests strike a personal, advocacy-driven tone, often using vivid storytelling and direct calls to action. There’s a balance of urgency (crises, cover-ups), frustration (at media/govt), and hope (faith, community, individual empowerment).
This episode is a raw, personal look at two of America’s urgent crises: the fentanyl epidemic devastating families coast-to-coast, and lingering wounds and questions around government accountability post-January 6th. Journalist Steve Gruber brings the opioid crisis home with sobering small-town stories and calls for stronger action and honest media coverage. Terry Newsom’s January 6th account calls out inconsistencies in federal response, highlighting deeper concerns about civil liberties and political weaponization. The show closes with poignant spiritual uplift from Pastor Thomas and self-care wisdom from host Charmaine Nugent, delivering hope, faith, and community in the face of adversity.
Listeners come away better informed, sobered, but also encouraged to value faith, hope, and taking individual action.