FAITH & FREEDOM WITH SHEMANE - APRIL 12th, 2026

Summary

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Podcast Summary: FAITH & FREEDOM WITH SHEMANE

Podcast: Real America’s Voice (RAV)
Host: Chemaine Nugent
Guests: Matt Gaetz, Kirk Cameron, Trisha Rodriguez
Date: April 12, 2026
Episode Theme: Faith, American Values, Transparency in Government, Cultural Renewal, Healthy Living

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Episode Overview

This episode of "Faith & Freedom with Shemane" dives into unique and sometimes controversial perspectives on current American society, health innovation, and cultural transformation. Host Chemaine Nugent welcomes former Congressman Matt Gaetz for a candid discussion on alleged secret government alien programs and the struggle for transparency. The episode then shifts to an inspiring dialogue with television and faith personality Kirk Cameron about spiritual renewal, family, and his new children's book aimed at rekindling patriotic values. The show wraps up with health advocate Trisha Rodriguez, who critiques lab-grown meat and the state of the American food supply, pushing for toxin-free, American-sourced options. Throughout, the tone is spirited, passionate, and unapologetically pro-faith and pro-freedom.

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Key Discussion Points & Notable Moments

1. Cancer Treatment Alternatives & Wellness Advocacy

[02:15 – 05:06]

• Chemaine Nugent introduces new findings about ivermectin and mebendazole as potential safe, affordable cancer treatments.
  • "I can actually say it now and not get banned. It's called ivermectin." (03:51, Chemaine)
  • Positioning against "Big Pharma" and support for The Wellness Company’s American-made products.

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2. Matt Gaetz on UAPs, Government Secrecy, and Extraterrestrial Allegations

[05:06 – 13:29]

Initial Revelation

• Chemaine asks Gaetz about an alleged alien hybrid breeding program.
  • “You were briefed on an alleged alien… hybrid breeding program and captured extraterrestrials breeding with humans. Two part question. Why are you talking about this now that you're out of Congress?” (05:09, Chemaine)

Matt Gaetz’s Account

• Shares experience regarding a service member’s testimony, supported by two defense contractors, claiming a military-run alien breeding program.
• Staff and military attaché present found the claims not credible; no action was taken.
  • “He came in with two defense contractors... and he laid out his allegation that there was this program run by the military where they essentially trafficked people into these breeding environments where entities from outer space were captured and held for that purpose.” (06:06, Gaetz)

Transparency, Blocked Investigations, and Military Resistance

• Describes obstacles in accessing information as a Congress member.
  • “There was such an effort to keep us away from it... Members of both political parties [blocked subpoena power].” (07:54, Gaetz)
  • He credits recent progress to Congressman Burchett and whistleblower David Grusch (CIA craft recovery unit).

Personal Observations and Skepticism

• Gaetz never witnessed direct evidence of breeding programs but found Navy-released videos and radar signatures deeply troubling.
  • “...What just didn't look like any technology that the United States possessed and how propulsion worked and how the mirving of objects into and out of one another seemed to occur... undetectably.” (09:32, Gaetz)

On Why This Is Emerging Now

• Leaders avoid fueling public fear; Trump’s “pro-transparency lens” could be pivotal.
  • “President Trump is unique. He's special... His pro-transparency lens gives us the best opportunity to get the information out.” (10:56, Gaetz)

On Threats, Fear, and the Disappearance of Scientists

• Gaetz has not been told to stop speaking but worries about scientists “disappearing.”
  • “I am concerned at the number of scientists who have been who just disappeared, who have had contact with this issue. I think the FBI needs to look into that further.” (13:13, Gaetz)

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Notable Quotes

• “There was such an effort to keep us away from it.” (07:54, Gaetz)
• "It was always concerning to me when I would look at recorded radar and I would see... what just didn't look like any technology that the United States possessed..." (09:32, Gaetz)
• “We want to be informed.” (11:52, Chemaine)

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3. Kirk Cameron: Culture, Faith, and Empowering American Families

[19:28 – 41:26]

Growing Up in Hollywood

• Reflects on innocence and optimism of 1980s and family values TV, lamenting their decline.
  • “There was just... an optimism in the air and a sense of wholesome family values.” (20:03, Cameron)
• Expresses concern that erasure of these values is deliberate, shaping a “sick” contemporary culture.

His Hollywood Experience & Faith

• Grateful he avoided the darker side of Hollywood thanks to strong parenting and a personal faith conversion at 17.
  • “When I became 17, 18 years old, I converted to faith in Christ. And so I didn't want to go to places of darkness. I wanted to be a light that would shine in the darkness.” (22:53, Cameron)
• Believes undermining of American family and virtue has been “well underway back in the 1980s.”

On Intentional Cultural Shifts

• Argues that media and education have intentionally destabilized the family to weaken American society.
  • “You’ve got to destroy the family and then you’ve got to crush the faith of the church... they want to replace God with government.” (25:43, Cameron)

Building Brave Generation—Children’s Books

• Introduces his new book “Built by the Brave,” part of the “America Wins” bundle with Dr. Ben Carson and Riley Gaines.
  • “This is an answer to those in Hollywood and in other institutions... who are teaching our children to be ashamed of America.” (31:30, Cameron)
• Urges parents and grandparents to reclaim cultural education: “Whoever gets the minds of the children, they win the future.” (36:09, Cameron)

Alternative Education & Homeschooling

• Discusses homeschooling his six children, value of community-based learning, and importance of starting education with the Bible.
  • “The role of a parent is more consequential and more essential than the role of the president.” (40:29, Cameron)

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Notable Quotes

• “Relish the opportunity to be an outsider because it's the outsiders who change the world.” (Multiple, e.g., 14:09, 29:15, 41:30, Cameron)
• “We've got to know our kids. We've got to scout our children for their talents, for their strengths... And you can only do that when you're spending enough time with them.” (39:34, Cameron)
• “Whoever gets the minds of the children, they win the future.” (36:09, Cameron)

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4. Food, Health, and American Standards: Lab-Grown vs. Real Meat

[41:44 – 50:52]

Lab-Grown Meat Concerns

• Chemaine and Kirk warn about FDA-approved lab-grown meat, voicing skepticism about health and transparency in labeling.
  • “They're not going to label it lab grown or synthetic. That would scare you away... Watch for are cell cultured and cultivated meat.” (42:48, Cameron)

Trisha Rodriguez on Food Sourcing

• Trisha details her alarming discovery regarding misleading food labels in supermarkets.
  • “I go to the grocery store, we're looking at these labels... honestly, Chemain, it was even scarier than that video.” (45:02, Rodriguez)
• Cautions about imported meat and industry efforts to “normalize and destroy society.”
  • “I truly believe there is an effort to normalize and destroy society... you go to these restaurants and they're serving cell cultivated meat.” (45:28, Rodriguez)
• Champions toxin-free, American-sourced meat through Switch to America with Shamaine.com.

Cultural Critique

• Dialogue pivots to nostalgia for “real food, real conversations,” and traditional gender roles.
  • “Why can't we go back to just like real food, real conversations, not always a zoom, but going out...” (47:37, Rodriguez)

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Notable Quotes

• “Why can't we go back to just like real food, real conversations...?” (47:37, Rodriguez)
• “I'd rather just pull a ribeye steak switch to America with Chemain that gets delivered right to my door.” (46:58, Chemaine)

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Timestamps of Important Segments

| Timestamp | Content | |-----------|---------| | 02:15 | Chemaine on alternative cancer treatments (ivermectin/mebendazole) | | 05:06 | Start of interview with Matt Gaetz: alien hybrid program allegations | | 07:54 | Gaetz discusses military/intelligence stonewalling on UAPs | | 09:32 | Gaetz on anomalous radar/video evidence (UAPs) | | 13:13 | Gaetz brings up disappeared scientists | | 19:28 | Kirk Cameron on 1980s optimism, family shows, and cultural change | | 22:53 | Cameron on faith conversion and wholesome upbringing | | 25:43 | Cameron on destruction of family and faith, role of government | | 31:30 | Cameron’s new book “Built by the Brave” and fighting anti-American sentiment | | 36:09 | “Whoever gets the minds of the children, they win the future.” | | 39:34 | Homeschooling, the importance of parental involvement | | 41:44 | FDA lab-grown meat news and label warning | | 45:02 | Trisha Rodriguez’s grocery store investigation and food activism | | 47:37 | Rodriguez on nostalgia and eroding traditional values |

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Memorable Closing Messages

• Kirk Cameron (multiple):
  • “Relish the opportunity to be an outsider because it's the outsiders who change the world.”
• Chemaine Nugent:
  • “Perhaps you were born for such a time as this.”
  • “Esther414, you were born for such a time as this.” (52:45)

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Additional Resources/Links Mentioned

• workingwithcancerpledge.com – Cancer survivorship at work.
• twchealthshamaine.com – Wellness Company products.
• One American News, Matt Gaetz Show – Gaetz’s new platform.
• bravebooks.com, kirk250.com – Kirk Cameron’s children’s books/“America Wins” bundle with Ben Carson and Riley Gaines.
• switchtoamericawithshamaine.com – Toxin-free, American-raised meat.

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Summary/Takeaways

• Transparency & Truth: The episode calls for more transparency in government, especially regarding unexplained aerial phenomena and controversial health alternatives.
• Cultural Renewal: Both guests frame American renewal as a spiritual war waged through family and education, urging parents and grandparents to be proactive and counteract perceived moral decline.
• Personal Responsibility: Listeners are encouraged to re-examine daily habits: what they eat, how they parent, and what values they transmit.
• Emphasis on Faith: Throughout, faith in God and foundational American values are presented as the antidote to fear, manipulation, and erosion of freedoms.
• Community & Action: Audience is invited to build local and familial communities, invest in child-focused literature, and support American-sourced and transparent wellness and food companies.

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Transcript

[Narrator/Host Intro]

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[Trisha Rodriguez]

I need to be healthy every day

[Chemaine Nugent]

to survive it and go through the next chemo round and the next chemo round. So it's important that work was part of that to keep my mind busy for 8, 9 hours and then I

[Narrator/Host Intro]

had to go back and face the reality.

[Chemaine Nugent]

I had a goal and the goal is to survive.

[Matt Gaetz]

Research shows there is a significant connection between the ability to continue to work and cancer recovery.

[Kirk Cameron]

We can make work a better place

[Chemaine Nugent]

for healing, learn more and sign the [e-mail]. Perhaps you were born for such a time as this. Hello, everyone and welcome to faith and freedom. I'm Chemaine Nugent and I am stoked about today's show. I can't wait to talk to my guest Matt Gaetz and also Kirk Cameron coming up. But first, a groundbreaking new study shows that there's a safe and inexpensive potential cancer treatment. And it's a drug that many of us already know about. And I can actually say it now and not get banned. It's called ivermectin. This new study shows that individuals who took ivermectin, the parasite fighting medication that gained fame during the COVID pandemic, I can say that too. Along with the drug mendazole, saw remarkable results in their battles with. Yes, the C word. I get to say it too. Cancer. This incredibly promising result have many Americans wondering where they can obtain ivermectin and mebentazole together. And that's where the wellness company comes in. You see in here hear from the wellness company doctors all the time on this network and you know that their products are safe and they're the gold standard for keeping you safe and healthy. The wellness company is making America 100% American made ivermectin and menbentazole available to RAV viewers at incredibly affordable price points. So you gotta say no to big pharma's greed and no to big pharma's poisons and say yes to a company that you can trust to bring you safe, affordable, effective treatments. If you or someone you love is interested in trying this incredible product, I urge you to go to TWC health Shamain. I've got mine right here. I got to show this to you. I ordered this and bought this on my own. I can't wait to try it and I want to recommend it for you too. TWC Health Shamaine. Don't forget, use the promo code Shamaine to save 10%. Okay. He served on the house armed services committee with access to classified military briefings. And now he's no longer bound by his seat in congress. He is talking. Please welcome Matt Gaetz.

[Matt Gaetz]

Hi, Chemain. Nice to be with you.

[Chemaine Nugent]

Thank you so much for being here. So I am excited about this. You were briefed on an alleged alien. I'm just going to dive right into this. I hope you don't mind because we've got A short amount of time, sure. The alleged alien hybrid breeding program and captured extraterrestrials breeding with humans. Two part question. Why are you talking about this now that you're out of Congress? And what do you make of this?

[Matt Gaetz]

Well, I was giving an interview to my good friend Benny Johnson, and he was asking about some of the strangest briefings that I had received around these UAP and UFO issues. And it wasn't actually a briefing that I received in Washington, D.C. it wasn't a briefing I received in a classified setting or even in the Capitol. I was back in Crestview, Florida, in my district office, and a service member who was connected to the 7th Special Forces Group mission at Campbell Simons, near the Eglin Air Force Base, where a lot of weapons testing occurs. He requested a meeting with his congressman. And when folks in uniform wanted a meeting with me, I didn't slough it off to staff. I would personally take those meetings. And he came in with two defense contractors with silver hair and dark suits, and he laid out his allegation that there was this program run by the military where they essentially trafficked people into these breeding environments where entities from outer space were captured and held for that purpose. Now, to be clear, I had in the meeting with me, my general counsel and my chief military attache, both of them thought the briefing was nonsense. They thought this was a service member who was, you know, up to something or not completely all there. They thought that the other participants in the meeting could have just been kooks. And so we didn't do what was asked of us, which was to stage a simultaneous raid on multiple locations with members of Congress in parts of the country where the allegation was that this program moved from place to place.

[Chemaine Nugent]

So you're no longer bound by secrecy. Give me your thoughts. Is this alien, extraterrestrial, demonic? What do you think?

[Matt Gaetz]

Well, I don't know. I really don't. And I think that there is pressure for leaders to have a definitive opinion on this. And frankly, the access to information that we sought from the military about UAPs, about recovered craft, about biologics, there was such an effort to keep us away from it. When we sought subpoena power, we fought congressional leadership who stood in the way, members of both political parties. When we wanted to talk to certain people in the intelligence community, we were told that there was a different level of access or classification that we had to get an approval for or a letter or a designation. And I mean, as you said in your intro, I was on the House Armed Services Committee for eight years, I didn't take kindly to generals telling me that I couldn't see radar signatures or that I couldn't talk to pilots who had extraordinary stories about some of these events. At times, our investigations did reveal important information. It was the investigation that Congressman Burchett led that allowed David Grusch to expose his role in craft recovery and that the CIA maintained a craft recovery unit. And so the investigation is ongoing. People like Eric Burleson, a congressman from Missouri, Anna Paulina Luna in Florida, they're doing great work on this.

[Chemaine Nugent]

So what did you see that you could share with us that made you pause and think that, you know, this is something big, something that the American people need to know about, and especially if our tax dollars are going to pay for these experiments. I mean, an alien hybrid breeding program. Did you see anything as a result coming out of this?

[Matt Gaetz]

No. I only received the one briefing about it. And again, the collective judgment of that was that we wouldn't be in a position to. To execute a simultaneous raid, which was the only next investigatory step. So no other steps were taken on that other than sort of receiving a strange and unbelievable briefing. There were things I did see with my own eyes that concerned me, and most often that was when I was viewing video that had been declassified or released by the United States Navy. And also when I looked at various radar signatures, it was always concerning to me when I. When I would look at recorded radar and I would see in the atmosphere or, you know, on the screen what just didn't look like any technology that the United States possessed and how propulsion worked and how the mirving of objects into and out of one another seemed to occur in some sort of rhythmic way, but. But also undetectably. And it was. It was. It were those moments that got me asking more questions than the briefing on the hybrid program ever did.

[Chemaine Nugent]

So why this? Why now? President Trump said he's going to, you know, disclose all the files, the UAP files. And we know about Project Bluebeam. We know that there are things that they don't want us to know. Why and why is all this coming out now?

[Matt Gaetz]

I think generally leaders don't want people to be afraid. That's not specific to the UAP issue. Whether it's war, peace, whether it's economic conditions. You know, leaders want their constituents to feel safe and secure, and when there aren't easily explainable answers to how objects are moving or speed or plasma propulsion, all these different things, you know, that we're learning more and more about. It is unsettling. And when leaders don't have answers, they often are reticent to put the questions out there. Now, President Trump is unique. He's special, he's better. He look at what he's done on the JFK files. We know a lot more about the CIA's involvement in the lives of the people who committed criminal acts when JFK was killed as a result of Donald Trump. And so I think his pro transparency lens gives us the best opportunity to get the information out. But even if the information gets out, you still may not know what's actually going on.

[Chemaine Nugent]

And that's what's so concerning, is that there are so many of us now because of this great technology that we have, we are able to do our own deep dives, we are able to research things on our own, and there are scientific findings about what has been going on. And the more that they keep it from us, I understand they don't want us to live in fear, but we want to be informed. And I want to ask you, what do you think? I only got about a minute left. In less than a minute, what do you think is going to happen?

[Matt Gaetz]

Well, I do believe that President Trump will allow Americans access to more information, but that information isn't going to answer all of our questions about the universe. And we'll see if different theories are proven or disproven about extraterrestrial life forms, their existence on Earth, how they may have used Earth at various times for different functions. And I think it will be an exciting time to learn those things and maybe even a little scary.

[Chemaine Nugent]

Yeah, it is scary. But the Bible warns us not to live in fear. And speaking of fear, though, let me ask you, since you started speaking out about this, have you been confronted by anyone in the government telling you to stand down? No.

[Matt Gaetz]

No. I know the rules on what we're allowed to talk about, what we're not allowed to talk about, and I abide by them. I abide by the law, and I haven't had any challenges there. I am concerned at the number of scientists who have been who just disappeared, who have had contact with this issue. I think the FBI needs to look into that further.

[Chemaine Nugent]

Well, we hope you stay safe, obviously, and please come back and give us an update because I believe that we should know. The American public needs to know and wants to know, rather than us going down so many different rabbit holes. Matt Gaetz, thank you so much for joining me. Where can people find you and follow you?

[Matt Gaetz]

Yes, I make the Matt GAETZ show on One American News every weeknight at 9 o' clock Eastern. We'd love to have everyone tune in. We're on YouTube T and the OANN

[Chemaine Nugent]

[e-mail] Matt Gaetz good to see you and thank you.

[Matt Gaetz]

Good to see you. Thanks for having me. Always a pleasure.

[Chemaine Nugent]

Don't go away everybody. We've got lots more to come. We'll be right back.

[Kirk Cameron]

Relish the opportunity to be an outsider because it's the outsiders who change the world.

[Chemaine Nugent]

Perhaps you were born for such a time as this.

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[Narrator/Host Intro]

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[Chemaine Nugent]

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[Kirk Cameron]

Thanks Shemaine, it's great to be here again. Thanks for all the good work that you're doing.

[Chemaine Nugent]

Well, thank you. I, I want to talk about your book, but I want to take a step back. I've got you for two segments. Can you fill in our audience about what it was like growing up in Growing Pains and growing up in Hollywood and what made you want to step away?

[Kirk Cameron]

Well, growing up in the 1980s was just all around great. I mean, I'm sure you remember too, right, we had the best music, we had the best, you know, we invented the mullet. Actually, I think they did a long, long before the 1980s, but we sort of perfected it. I had one on Growing Pains and there was, there was just an, I think an optimism in the air and there was a sense of wholesome family values that characterized so many of the shows. From my show Growing Pains to my sister's show Full House. You had the Cosby show, you had who's the Boss, Happy Days. So many of these great shows. And it seems that we've lost so much of that today. And I don't think that we've just lost it by accident. I think it's been deleted on purpose. And I, I think many people have this eerie feeling deep in their soul that something is very sick in the heart of America. And that's why so many people are fired up about wanting to do something. And I'm among them because I've got six children. My wife and I have raised our family in Hollywood, California. Now we live in Tennessee. And we want to do what we can to be inspiring a new generation of brave faith filled freedom fighters. And that's why I'm beginning to write books for children together with Dr. Ben Carson, with Riley Gaines. And we're teaching kids about the faith of America, the courage of America and the accomplishments of Americans. And I couldn't be more excited about this. Faith wins. I'm sorry, America wins Bundle.

[Chemaine Nugent]

Well, I'm excited about it and I know parents are excited about. Parents are just grasping we're in desperate knees. And grandparents. I'm a new grandma and we're in desperate need of good books. I can't tell you how many books I've picked up that have that, know, rainbow essence to it that I just don't want to share with my kids or grandkids. I just want something wholesome. And you're right, Talking about the 80s, I grew up in the 70s. I'm a little bit older than you, a lot actually. No seat belts and Look, I survived, you know, no cell phones, no. No seat belts. But, you know, when you were growing up at. You were a household name. Still are. Every kid wanted your life. What was really going on in the Growing Pains set or behind closed doors that you didn't expect?

[Kirk Cameron]

Well, I think that while it was fun and it was exciting to be on the set of Growing Pains, I met my wife there. She played Mike Seaver's girlfriend on the show for a couple of years. We ended up getting married, and we've been married now for 35 years with our six kids, two little grandkids. But I think looking back now, I am so grateful that the awful things that are happening to children in Hollywood today and the awful things that television shows in Hollywood are promoting today were not my experience. So we've heard of just the way children are taken advantage of in Hollywood. And I knew those parties were going on. I never went to those kinds of parties. And fortunately, because my. My mom and dad didn't let me. And then When I became 17, 18 years old, I converted to faith in Christ. And so I didn't want to go to places of darkness. I wanted to be a light that would shine in the darkness. And so I'm grateful that God rescued me from that. But when I look back now, as a father, I realize that the undermining of America was well underway back in the 1980s. This didn't happen overnight. It kind of feels like it where we. We see the rainbow relig,

[Narrator/Host Intro]

the.

[Kirk Cameron]

The Marxist mafia that's coming after your kids and mine, filling their hearts and minds with perverted, twisted indoctrination, calling good evil and evil good. But it really was. It was well underway back when we were kids. And. And so we. We may not have had seat belts back then, but we really kind of needed moral and spiritual and political seat belts that would keep us from going so far off road that we've gotten to where we are today. And that's what we're trying to provide with good, wholesome books and TV shows and other things that we can do to give parents and grandparents tools to begin educating their children rather than whining about the culture. Let's win the culture and replace the bad with the good. That's why I'm excited to still be in the fight and doing really consequential things together with other brave Americans.

[Chemaine Nugent]

Well, you said it perfectly. It was. It's about parenting. You didn't get caught up in that because your parents were looking. Your parents were watching. And these days I mean, our kids are scrolling all the time. And parents, I mean, I had a stay at home mom and, and I wanted to be a stay at home mom for my son. And it's not easy, but I think look at the result. You and your sister are the epitome of wholesome. And thank you so much for continuing the fight that I know you both do. She's been on the show here before. I'd love to get her back, but it's, it's amazing that Hollywood. Not just Hollywood, the media. And you had also mentioned that you might think that this is intentional, the destruction of the family. And you're working with Ben Carson. I think he said this before too. How do you destroy a country from the inside out? You destroy the family first. Is that what you think is going on?

[Kirk Cameron]

Yeah, you've got to destroy the family and then you've got to crush the faith of the church. Because people who have faith in God look to God ultimately for their source of what's right and wrong and true and false and, and their provision and their protection. But when, when, when, when prideful, greedy, selfish people get into power, they want to replace God with government. And they want you to look to the government to protect you and provide for you. But that's not what America is all about. We didn't want a king to be our governor. We wanted ourselves to govern this land. That's why we're a country whose government is of the people, for the people, and it's a government by the people. So, yes, there have been people ever since the very beginning wanting to take America down. And the best way to do that is do it from the inside, which of course is, is what they're attempting to do. And to do it by getting into the hearts and minds of our children who will grow up believing what they see on TV and what they learn in school. And kids in school today are being taught to be ashamed of America and to be pride of. I'm sorry, to be, to be proud of perversion. And so this is calling good evil and evil good. What we need to do is take back the narrative and, and that's what Dr. Carson and Riley Gaines and I are doing with this trio of books that gives parents the ability to sit down with their children or their grandchildren and teach them that America is wonderful. We're not perfect. But in the world, we have toppled tyrannies, we have over overthrown slavery, we have provided more opportunity and freedom and liberty than any other nation in the world. That's why Everybody wants to be like us. That's why everybody wants to come live here and even break the law to get in. And so it's, it's, it's no wonder that we're seeing those, those, those termites, those rats, those snakes that want to erode America from the inside. And they're doing a really good job of it. But they're no match for brave faith filled freedom fighters like you and like so many others in this country. And those are the people that I want to hang out with and I want to work beside.

[Chemaine Nugent]

Well, I want to hang out with you. You can come over to our ranch anytime and we can, we can hang out. I don't know if you shoot a bow and arrow, but we'd love to, to teach you how to do that and just.

[Kirk Cameron]

Yeah, I do. I'd love to.

[Chemaine Nugent]

Okay, great. All right, it's a done deal. But I'm gonna have you around for one more segment if that's okay. Because I want to get into more the details about your new book, your new children's book, built by the brave. Can you stick around for one more segment?

[Kirk Cameron]

Yep, yep, sure can.

[Chemaine Nugent]

Okay, don't go away, everyone. We'll be right back. And don't Forget, head to MyPillow.com and use the promo code FAITH and also TWC Health Shamain. Don't forget that promo code is chemainwc health. We've got more with Kirk Cameron coming up and we've also got at the end funny pet videos. We always end the show with something to make you smile and I think that's really important no matter what's going on in this world. There's a lot but we've got, we've got to stick by faith and God wants us to be happy. So check it out. Stand by, we'll be right back.

[Kirk Cameron]

Relish the opportunity to be an outsider because it's the outsiders who change the world.

[Chemaine Nugent]

Perhaps you were born for such a time as this.

[Kirk Cameron]

Relish the opportunity to be an outsider because it's the outsiders who change the world.

[Chemaine Nugent]

Perhaps you were born for such a time as this. You know, our dogs are not just dogs, they're actually literally part of our family. I mean, our whole world revolves around our dogs. And a couple years ago I noticed that two of our dogs, older Sadie and Coco, German shepherd, they're both really struggling to walk. And in fact, a year ago our dog Coco the German shepherd was told that she needed a hip replacement. Well, on a nine year old dog that, that's a lot and I thought it was too much. So Ted and I actually sought out this mad scientist who's been here on the show before. And we created Uncle Ted's Pets. They are made with their canine supplements powered by Bioflavonoids. That's a plant based boost to help your dog stay sharp, strong and healthy. Our dogs use them every day. And just this morning, Coco and Sadie were running along with Jackson, not quite keeping up with them, but she doesn't need, Coco doesn't need a hip replacement. So our pups are thriving. And if you're, if you're a dog lover like I am, go to getuncleteds.com to learn more. Okay, we're back with Kirk Cameron, who has a new children's book, Built by the Brave. Kirk, welcome back.

[Kirk Cameron]

Thank you.

[Chemaine Nugent]

Okay, let's get into why you wanted to write this book and how you chose the topic. I know your faith is very important to you, and it's one of the reasons that I love watching you on your show, your own podcast. And I really love having you here because not many people understand the entertainment industry and are willing to step back and kind of go on their own path. So tell us about this book and how you chose the topic.

[Kirk Cameron]

Well, this is an answer to those in Hollywood and in other institutions like the public school system and the government who are teaching our children to be ashamed of America. There are those in Hollywood, like Billie Eilish, who say that we live on stolen land, essentially we shouldn't even be here. Olympic athletes who are backing away and calling patriotism to be proud of the United States something dangerous. And our kids are growing up with this. We even have Time magazine that says that there is a special celebration of the 4th of July coming up on this 250th anniversary of America that should start on Juneteenth, where of course, we must go back and just really start our whole thoughts of the past time of this country with the sin of slavery. And children are understandably not being proud to be Americans. Well, that's devastating for our future and it's completely misinformed. I mean, this country was built on faith and scripture. And we don't primarily have a political problem. We have a spiritual problem. And if we can get children to understand that the people who built this country are men and women of truth, of goodness and courageous faith, we can raise up a new generation who is not only proud of America, but begins to understand that the future really does depend on them. And so I've partnered up with Dr. Ben Carson with Riley Gaines. And the three of us have each written a different book. One about the faith of the early Americans, one about the bravery of those who built the country, and the other about the accomplishments of Americans. And this will give parents and grandparents an opportunity to sit down with their kids, to take back the narrative and teach their children to be proud of America and move her forward one family at a time. That's how we win the war.

[Chemaine Nugent]

You know, when I was growing up, we talked about this in the last segment. Growing up in the 80s, for me, it was 70s and 80s too. We had it so good back then, but we didn't talk about. I remember having conversations with my parents about my feelings. How did you feel when so and so said something? Did it hurt your feelings? And we didn't talk about that. How do you think that. Well, let me, let me rephrase that question. Do you think we can take back parenting to train brave kids even in the midst of, you know, the scrolling media? And there's no question, the last decade or so, it was all about how kids felt and you didn't want to have them feel bad about certain things. But, yeah, look at where we're at now.

[Kirk Cameron]

Yeah, that's right. I think it does start with us saying, you know, this has happened in part on our watch as parents and grandparents. So, you know, my grandfather, he fought in World War II on the island of Iwo Jima as a Navy corpsman, a medic together with the Marines, and he was proud to be an American. He joined at 17 years old. And he said, my country needs me. And there wasn't a question about that. Today we have big questions, and I think it's because we've gotten away from our roots. The Bible was the book that built America, no matter what anybody else says, to try to indoctrinate our children to the contrary, we have to remind them that it's the George Washingtons, it's the founding fathers and mothers, it's the Pilgrims, it's Paul Revere, it's. It's others who understood that freedom isn't free, that freedom is rare. And if we want to keep it, if we want the good life, which is being able to work hard and provide for your family and then having an abundance to be able to care for those who are in need, all the while honoring God, that is the good life, we've got to pass the baton on to the next generation. And that's why I'm so excited about working on a new TV show which is like a modern day Mr. Rogers called Iggy and Mr. Kirk. And then writing these books that parents can read with their kids. And grandkids. I've got two grandkids. I'm looking for these kinds of books. I want to plant these seeds in their little minds early. And I want to make sure that whoever's educating them as they get into school are using the right textbooks and storybooks. Because whoever gets the minds of the children, they win the future. They win the right to shape the world. Because it's those little kids who will be our leaders.

[Chemaine Nugent]

So you're a grandpa, huh? I did not know that. How old are you?

[Kirk Cameron]

A little granddaughter. She's two. And we have another one on the way.

[Chemaine Nugent]

What? Congratulations.

[Kirk Cameron]

Thank you.

[Chemaine Nugent]

So. So how old are your kids? And did you homeschool them?

[Kirk Cameron]

Our six children are from 29 down to 23, so they're all a year apart. And yes, we did homeschool them. Not exclusively, but we did homeschool them most of the time.

[Chemaine Nugent]

And how about your grandkids? Are you pushing for homeschooling or do you foresee, do you envision because of your book, because of working with Riley and Ben Carson? I see this Avenger team. We want to take back our kids. We want to take back parenting. Is there an opportunity for us to all to teach our kids at home and our grandkids through Brave Books?

[Kirk Cameron]

Yes, absolutely. You can check out bravebooks.com you can also go to kirk250.com and there you'll find the America Wins bundle with Dr. Carson's book, Riley Gaines book, and my book. And there's special signed editions as well. So, yes, whether you take the leap and you dive into home education exclusively or you want to supplement the kind of education that you've chosen for your children, maybe that's a private school. Maybe you've even got a great little public school somewhere. Some of those still exist. My concern is that they won't exist long because by the very nature of them, they are vulnerable to all of the woke twisted ideology coming in there. So we only have one chance to raise our kids. Education is at the top of the important list. And so make sure you're reading your kids the right books. History books, science books, storybooks, books of virtue, and then the book, the Bible.

[Chemaine Nugent]

I'm with you. I homeschooled my son for a few years, not the whole time. And I just cherished that time. I really loved it. Everything that we did from going grocery shopping, that could be a math lesson. Although I wasn't really good at math, but there was back then. My son's 35, and back then, it's amazing because there was a group of people in our community. There was one mother who wanted to do the same thing. She was really good at math and science, so she'd take the kids twice a week. I teach him English and Phys Ed. And we all, you know, as a community, I think this is the way that schooling was meant to be.

[Kirk Cameron]

Yeah, I think. I think you're right. In the very beginning of America, school was certainly based in the home, and the primary textbook was the Bible. And that sounds kind of foreign and crazy to people today, but it's the truth. And then with government education coming in, it really stopped teaching children how to think and how to be wise. And it told them what to think and how to conform for the purposes of the government and the work unions. And that's really why we're seeing the things that we see today. Kids lined up in little columns and little rows with a series of bells when they get up and when they sit down, and they're taught to memorize data and then regurgitate it on Friday test day, and then move on to the next. And this is not what real biblical education is all about. We've got to know our kids. We've got to scout our children for their talents, for their strengths, for the challenges that they face, and then realize how God created them and made them and gifted them for, and then pour into those areas. And you can only do that when you're spending enough time with them and you truly love them and you're serving them. You know, government institutions aren't built for that. And so that's why the role of a parent is more consequential and more essential than the role of the president. We've got to start at the kitchen table. The transformation happens first at our house and then at the White House.

[Chemaine Nugent]

I agree. You know that you have to get a license to be a hairdresser, but not to be a parent. And that's a shame. But thankfully, you're changing that. Kirk, thank you so much for being here. How can people find you and your books?

[Kirk Cameron]

Well, if you go to kirk250.com you can check out this America Wins bundle that I'm so excited about with Dr. Carson and Riley Gaines. And it will be a great gift and declaration to your children and grandchildren of what matters to you. And again, that's Kirk250.com and you're on

[Chemaine Nugent]

social media as well on Instagram and Facebook and YouTube, right?

[Kirk Cameron]

Yes, you're on Facebook and the Kirk Cameron show on YouTube.

[Chemaine Nugent]

Yay. Kirk. Thank you so much for being here. I appreciate it. And come visit us in Texas.

[Kirk Cameron]

I would love to. Thanks, Shemaine. And I'll bring my bow with me.

[Chemaine Nugent]

Sounds good. Thank you. Don't go away, everyone. We'll be right back.

[Kirk Cameron]

Relish the opportunity to be an outsider because it's the outsiders who change the the world.

[Chemaine Nugent]

Perhaps you were born for such a time as this.

[Kirk Cameron]

Relish the opportunity to be an outsider because it's the outsiders who change the world.

[Chemaine Nugent]

Perhaps you were born for such a time as this. Well, the FDA just approved cell based lab grown meat. Sounds delicious. And even as questions continue to surface about long term health risks, including links being studied around cancer, if that's not enough, the US Cattle herd is shrinking. Prices are rising, and more of the beef in our stores are being imported from overseas, often from countries with much lower standards than we have. So here's what most people don't realize. Up to 80% of grass fed beef is imported, much of it raised with synthetic growth hormones. And foreign meat can still be labeled a product of the usa. I don't even understand how that's possible. And it's. It's making it hard to know what you're feeding your family. Take a look at this.

[Kirk Cameron]

Here's how to know if you're eating fake lab grown meat or real meat. They're not going to label it lab grown or synthetic. That would scare you away. As doctors, we're not allowed to share this with the public. But I'll tell you in this video. Make sure you share this video to your loved ones before it got deleted. Listen to me carefully. What they do is they use softer words that sound almost natural on label. The words you need to watch for are cell cultured and cultivated meat. If you see those phrases on the label that meat was grown in a laboratory from animal cells. It was never part of a living, breathing animal. Next time you're shopping, read the fine print. If it says cell cultured, cultivated or or cell based, put it back.

[Chemaine Nugent]

Here's the good news. You have an option. Switch to America with shamain.com. your food comes from cattle born, raised and processed right here in the United States with no antibiotics, no hormones, no pesticides, and no mRNA. It's called the never ever label and it says it all. You can join today for $52 a month. And Ted and I cannot wait to get our box. I just got A text message, the box is on the way. Why get in the car and go to the grocery store when you can have prime USDA black Angus beef delivered right to your door? Go to switch to America with Shamaine.com and here to tell us more is my friend Trisha Rodriguez. Trisha, welcome. Hello.

[Trisha Rodriguez]

Thank you so much for having me. How are you? I'm good.

[Chemaine Nugent]

You know we were, we were talking off air but we were talking off air all the time and I wanted to tell you a story that relates to this. We were talking about growing up in the 70s and 80s and even 90s and when Rocco was, I'll never forget he was in track and he wanted to say after school for a track meet. And I said well you know I, I had, I wasn't able to get him a lunch or dinner afterwards. And I said well what are you going to have to eat for dinner? And he goes I'll just have a hot dog. And I went oh, oh no, please don't do that. My heart just breaks. And you were talking about a similar thing. Thank goodness that you brought switched to America with Shamayne to my attention. So thank you.

[Trisha Rodriguez]

Oh I'm so happy to be able to offer an alternative to people. But you know Chemain, regarding that video I had to do my own investigation into that and basically okay, so you don't go to a big box store and just find this cell cultivated beef but actually it's even scarier. So yesterday I took my daughter. I haven't stepped into a big box store in years. Okay, now that I have this toxic free alternative and a ranch that you love we went in there and honestly Chemain, it was even scarier than that video. So most states have banned cell cultivated beef but I truly believe there is an effort to normalize and destroy society. And what you can get is at high end restaurants sell cultivated meat for a high price which I find very strange. Like San Francisco, Washington you go to these restaurants and they're serving cell cultivated meat. But I go to the big box store because I'm like okay this is freaking me out. I know where I get my meat and my toxic free products. I go to the grocery store, we're looking at these labels and Chemain half of it is in Spanish, like it's like English Spanish. I'm going carne theres. And then it looked like some sort of Kinko's label like a makeshift out of a high school that someone slapped on there. And then I said okay this is crazy, this is really sketchy all of this was sketchy. Then I go over to the seafood section. Cause I'm like, is this also happening over here? Sure enough, huge banner that says, wild caught from Alaska. Delicious. I open the refrigerator, I take out the bag of scallops, and on the back it says, product made in India. Okay. And I'm like, wow, do they really think we're that stupid?

[Chemaine Nugent]

Where I think they do. I think they do.

[Trisha Rodriguez]

Blindly shopping.

[Chemaine Nugent]

You know, Ted asks me all the time, you know, if I want to go out to dinner. And I think he's just being nice, like he's trying to, you know, I'll take you out to dinner if you want to go. Honestly, I don't. There's no place I want to go eat. I'd rather just pull a ribeye steak switch to America with Chemain that gets delivered right to my door. I've never had a problem with it being completely frozen and refrigerated when it gets to. Even in Texas when it's 100 degrees. And I gotta tell you, it tastes so good.

[Trisha Rodriguez]

Delicious. They're huge cuts, they're grass fed, clean. And our labeling is very clear. It's like black label, USDA inspected, prime meat, and it's the best beef ever. But can we just have a real conversation right now? Because I was thinking, what is this effort to destroy our society? Which is what I think it is. It's like, let's normalize this the way we normalized men being feminized. Like, you know, we were talking about the love story and I got very nostalgic, right? Cause I lived in New York in the 90s, and I'm looking back and I'm thinking, wait a minute, the men looked like men. Like they wore suits. You had to go out, you had real conversations. And I hope I was eating real food, you know, but it's seriously like, why can't we go back to just like real food, real conversations, not always a zoom, but going out and, and forget this feminization of men, because then the women start to become masculine and let's have real beef on our tables, toxin free products and we can vote with our dollars and get that. But did you get nostalgic watching Love Story? Cause I wanna talk about.

[Chemaine Nugent]

I loved it. I saw some people that shall not be named that are very popular podcasters, and they were dissing it, they were tearing it apart. And I'm like, oh my gosh, I loved it. I thought the, the acting spot on. And you know, and, and I don't know if I if people who are just joining me for the first time. Ted and I were with John and Carolyn from a George magazine party back in the 90s. I don't remember exactly what year. 90 something. Anyways, I thought they got, they did great. Now it's not going to be perfect but I, I really think they did great. And I love the, the love story. I love the fashion. And now everybody's talking about how to dress like Carolyn Bassett. So you and I should, we should do a whole nother podcast just dissecting that. Don't you think?

[Trisha Rodriguez]

We should. But I was thinking about this, this very thing because I thought what is this effort to sell cellular food? I mean when it's, it's linked to cancer and all kinds of things and, and yes, I've been out in the restaurant where I've ordered steak or something. I'm like, I'm sorry, this, this doesn't taste real. This cannot be real. I'm sending it back. So yeah, I'd rather stay home too, get my rib eye out and switch to America with Chemain. And also we have been. USA Today stated that we are America's most trusted brand. You can not only get toxin free products but you can get your beef. And by the way, I just wanted to make a little correction. It's a $52 discount that you'll get as a member. So if I call someone in your audience and I'm like, let me give you the tour. It's because I want to show you the terrific discounts that you can get. And it's reasonably priced. Like, I really don't understand this. I just went into the big box store for fun yesterday and I was horrified. Like forget that video about cellular lab grown meat. I'm like, I don't even know. We don't know where you know this beef is from or how many cows. The color was strange. My daughter picked up a slab of meat and was like, mom, what is this? I said, I don't know what that is, but put it down. You know what I mean?

[Chemaine Nugent]

There is an option. There is an option. So Trisha, thank you so much for being here, for joining me. Switch to America with Shamaine.com. go there and fill out the form and you can speak directly with Trisha. Trisha, thank you so much. I'm going to see you in a couple of days. I think she left. There you are. I'm going to see you in a couple of days.

[Kirk Cameron]

Got it.

[Trisha Rodriguez]

I'm excited.

[Chemaine Nugent]

I'm excited too. All right. You know Sometimes the best break from all the headlines, whether it's lab grown meat or can't believe I'm saying this, alien hybrid breeding programs. Sometimes the best break from all this chaos is right at your home with your pets. So take a look at this,

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[Matt Gaetz]

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[Chemaine Nugent]

This is Haley Cancel. Thank you so much for joining me everyone. Check out TWC Health Shamaine for all your products for health and wellness and for your pets as well. Go to get uncletads.com and then also switch to americawithshemain.com you can get grass fed beef delivered right to your door. Don't forget Esther414, you were born for such a time as this. Thank you so much for being here. God bless you. I'm going to be back next week. I know we've been bumped a couple of times, but right now it's just two o' clock on Sundays. Every Sunday. Follow me on social media. I'm on Instagram and Facebook and YouTube and I'll have more updates there. God bless you. And remember, Esther414, you're here for such a time as this.

[Kirk Cameron]

Well, it's the opportunity to be an outsider because it's the outsiders who change the world.

[Chemaine Nugent]

Perhaps you were born for such a time as this.

[Narrator/Host Intro]

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