Episode Overview

Podcast: Real America’s Voice
Host: (Theologian, presumably Lance Wallnau)
Episode: Firewall with Lance Wallnau – December 14th, 2025
Date of Recording: December 13, 2025

Main Theme:
This episode dives into the theological, historical, and prophetic significance of Israel within both the Bible and modern geopolitics. The host, speaking from a theological and conservative American perspective, explores why opposition to Israel (particularly among Christians) is not only erroneous biblically, but historically disastrous for nations. The episode interweaves scriptural analysis, history, prophecy, and current events to warn listeners against what he calls the “virus” of anti-Semitism and to underline America’s spiritual and political stake in blessing Israel.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Cultural and Moral Upheaval in Contemporary America (02:40–04:52)

• The host laments what he sees as bizarre and unprecedented moral confusion in American culture (e.g., gender ideology, abortion).
• He draws a parallel to past periods of darkness in human history, such as the Holocaust, asserting today’s challenges have spiritual roots.

“Who would have thought that even still... we have just read yesterday, where there's a sixth grade class... the whole assembly for sixth grade was on how to trans and know if you're trans and it's not over yet. Who thought we'd live in a day where men think they're women, women think they're men?”
—Host, [02:40]

• Emphasizes the Lord’s Prayer as a means to prevent Satan’s will from being manifest on earth.

2. Israel’s Biblical Centrality and Christian Anti-Semitism (04:50–09:38)

• Responds to Christian conspiracy theories linking Jewish symbols, like the Star of David, to the occult, dismissing such claims as ignorant and anti-biblical.
• Cites the overwhelming number of times Israel and Jews are mentioned in Scripture.

"I did a check 2,860 times. Do you understand? This is a book written by Jews. The New Testament Church founded by Jews. The Messiah is Jewish..."
—Host, [06:06]

• Explores Paul’s teachings on the blindness coming over Israel until the “fullness of the Gentiles,” tying this to eschatological timelines.
• Warns that anti-Semitism is a spiritual “virus” infecting even discerning Christians.

“Their pride is the easiest thing for Satan to hook in because they think they're onto something by, you know, they hate Israel. It's… as weird as transgenderism as anything I've ever seen.”
—Host, [08:30]

3. God’s Covenant with Abraham and the Principle of Blessing or Cursing Israel (10:43–19:00)

• Delivers a biblical exposition starting in Genesis 12: “I will bless those who bless you, curse those who curse you.”
• Argues that spiritual blessings or curses come upon nations and individuals based on their stance towards Israel.

“God’s covenant with Abraham according to the apostle Paul... is going to have an eternal covenant with Israel. And that covenant is going to be to bring a deliverer.”
—Host, [12:17]

• Claims Jesus’ Second Coming is contingent upon the Jewish remnant in Israel acknowledging him as Messiah, referencing prophecies in Zechariah.

"What will be required by Jesus before he shows up to finally deliver [Israel] ...I will not come back until they say... blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord."
—Host, [15:18]

• Asserts that antisemitism among Christians and general society is a sign of the spiritual battle at play.

4. How Nations Fared After Opposing or Supporting Israel (29:32–34:50)

• Draws on historical examples to demonstrate his belief that nations decline after persecuting Jews:
  • Spain: Expulsion of Jews (1492) immediately followed by national decline and loss of empire.
  • Germany: Holocaust leads to Germany’s devastation post-WWII.
  • United Kingdom: “Betrayal” of the Balfour Declaration and Jewish refugees led to the rapid collapse of the British Empire.
  • Soviet Union: Anti-Semitic oppression led to “sudden” collapse of the USSR.
• Specifically references mentor Derek Prince as the origin for this theological-historical typology.

“Derek Prince taught that... as specifically Germany, as Britain, as Spain had this hostility towards the Jewish people, you could trace this [decline].”
—Host, [32:44]

• Notes a pattern: nations voting against Israel in the UN align with what he sees as the “goats” (anti-Christ nations) in end-time prophecy.

5. Modern Geopolitics & “Dividing the Land” of Israel (36:41–41:01)

• Uses the 2005 evacuation of Gaza (pressed by President George W. Bush for a two-state solution) as a case where “dividing the land” of Israel brings disaster (Hurricane Katrina).

“I'm telling you... Judgment that hit the United States in the strongest hurricane that ever came inland, I believe was directly correlated to dividing the land.”
—Host, [39:43]

• Expresses concern that future US leaders may take similar stances under pressure from advisers, leading to divine judgment.

6. Prophecy Focus: Zechariah’s Vision for Israel & the Nations (41:02–51:41)

• Unpacks Zechariah 12 & 14, prophesying all nations will gather against Jerusalem, triggering God’s direct intervention and the return of Christ on the Mount of Olives.

"That's a strange verse... it speaks of the Antichrist period of time when the nations gather together and they do come against Jerusalem."
—Host, [43:40]

• Sees current global trends as aligning with these prophecies; explains the "millennial reign" of Christ as the next phase in biblical chronology.

• Highlights the supernatural continuity between Old and New Testament prophecy regarding Jerusalem.

"Do you believe the Bible? Trust me, when you're on your deathbed, you're going to be believing this book. If you're a Christian, all of it, including the parts you don't like.”
—Host, [48:40]

7. Call to Vigilance and Political Action (51:42–52:31)

• Urges Christian, especially “Judeo-Christian,” Americans to stand with Israel both spiritually and politically.
• Frames this as both a matter of spiritual warfare (against global Marxism, Islamism, anti-Christian progressivism) and of national self-interest.

“I pray that my country has a strong enough Christian, Judeo Christian community... battling the progressives, the one world government, the de dollarization... Beware of the anti Israel virus. See you again next time.”
—Host, [52:03]

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Christian Anti-Semitism as a Spiritual Virus:
  “Their pride is the easiest thing for Satan to hook in because they think they're onto something by, you know, they hate Israel. It's a virus. As weird as transgenderism as anything I've ever seen.”
  —Host, [08:30]

• Historical Repercussions:
  “They expelled [the Jews] in a persecution... and immediately after, Spain's global power began to decline. The Spanish Armada was defeated in 1588. The empire fractured and went into century-long decline.”
  —Host, [31:10]

• Hurricane Katrina as Judgment:
  "Katrina was forming exactly at that time and strengthening... and I do, I'll be honest with you, I do fear for where J.D. Vance will go after Trump is there... that's Katrina territory, folks."
  —Host, [39:43]

• Full Circle of Prophecy:
  "He went up from the Mount of Olives. He's coming back to the Mount of Olives. How did this prophet know, what, 800 years before in Zechariah 14, verse 4, that the Mount of Olives is going to be where the Messiah shows up? He couldn't have known..."
  —Host, [50:12]

Timestamps for Important Segments

• Cultural Upheaval Rant: [02:40–04:52]
• Christian Theories about the Star of David Dismissed: [04:50–06:20]
• Paul, Gentiles, and End Time Prophecy: [07:00–08:30]
• Blast Against Christian Anti-Semitism: [08:30–09:38]
• Genesis 12 / Spiritual Principle of Blessings & Curses: [10:43–13:46]
• End Times and the Return of Jesus: [15:00–19:00]
• Historical Accounting of Nations Opposing Israel: [29:32–34:50]
• Two-State Solution / Katrina Argument: [36:41–41:01]
• Zechariah’s Prophecy and Millennial Reign: [41:02–51:41]
• Closing: Call to Vigilance: [51:42–52:31]

Closing Summary

The host strongly asserts that both historical precedent and biblical prophecy support the centrality of Israel in God’s end-time plans. He warns that contemporary anti-Israel sentiment, especially among Christians, is a spiritually dangerous deception as significant as any current cultural trend. Throughout, he encourages American Christians to both understand their scriptural heritage and to support Israel practically and politically, underlining his conviction with quotations, historical analysis, and urgent pastoral commentary.

Useful for listeners who haven’t tuned in:
This episode provides a densely packed theological, historical, and political argument for why Christians (particularly Americans) should staunchly support Israel, coupled with a passionate warning about the dangers of anti-Semitism and a spiritual analysis of current events. The host’s distinctive tone—fiery, urgent, and often polemical—is consistent throughout, employing scripture, anecdote, prophecy, and personal reflections to make his case.