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Episode: Firewall with Lance Wallnau – December 27th, 2025
Host: Lance Wallnau
Original Air Date: December 27, 2025
(All times MM:SS refer to transcript)

Episode Overview

In this Christmas-season episode of "Firewall," Lance Wallnau leads listeners through what he brands "the world's most unusual Bible study." The focus is on uncovering overlooked mysteries in the genealogy of Jesus as presented in Matthew, with special attention given to the spiritual warfare throughout history that threatened the Messianic bloodline, the significance of enduring faith during adversity, and the realities of spiritual revelation and angelic intervention. With his trademark passionate, conversational tone—balancing humor with deep biblical insight—Wallnau uses narratives from scripture and his personal experiences to encourage his audience regarding God’s provision, the power of prayer, and the role of Christians in ongoing spiritual battles.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The "Unusual" Bible Study—Genealogies & Hidden Mysteries

[03:26]

• Lance opens with his goal: “My goal, to make you go: Is that really in there?” He invites listeners to follow along in Matthew’s gospel, which presents the genealogy of Jesus, often dismissed as boring.
• He explains the historical spiritual attack on the Messianic bloodline, drawing parallels between Old Testament events and modern struggles:
  • Jezebel’s daughter Athaliah tried to eradicate David’s royal line. One child, Joash, is preserved, ensuring the promise of a Messiah remains intact ([04:19-08:00]).
  • Parallels are drawn to spiritual attacks in different eras, including Herod’s massacre and even referencing Hitler—underscoring a persistent, demonic opposition to God’s promises.

“You talk about how it’s like Hitler almost annihilating all the… What if Hitler had won World War II and just hunted down Jews all over the world? …God had to preserve the Jewish people.” (Lance Wallnau, [05:56])

2. God Preserves a Remnant: Hanukkah & Spiritual Resilience

[10:28]

• Wallnau connects the Hanukkah story with the theme of preserving spiritual light.
  • Despite desperate odds, God “always leaves a witness for His people.”
  • The miracle of oil in the Maccabean revolt is compared to God sustaining individuals today when resources seem depleted.

“You may feel like the oil is running out for you… There’s a way. God’s lighting a light in the darkness. There is hope. There is victory. There is an answer.” (Lance Wallnau, [13:28])

3. The Mystery of Jesus’ Genealogy – The 14th Generation

[17:22]

• Wallnau explores a numerical curiosity in Matthew’s genealogy: it claims 14 generations in three sections, but, he says, only 13 are listed in the last.
• He guides listeners to Hebrews 2:10 and Isaiah 53, arguing Jesus’ “offspring” are the believers themselves—the "14th generation" being born spiritually through Christ.
  • This ties into prophetic ideas of an “overcoming generation”—the final, mature body of Christ manifesting God’s fullness.

“Those that are born of the Spirit actually become the offspring of Jesus… this 14th generation becomes the generation that Jesus himself sires.” (Lance Wallnau, [20:31])

4. The Scandal and Supernatural of Jesus’ Birth

[24:00]

• Wallnau reflects on the challenges faced by Mary and Joseph, including social stigma and the price of being chosen by God.
• He notes that the miraculous and the “scandalous” are often entwined in God’s work, reminding listeners not to fear disgrace for God’s sake.
• He emphasizes that God’s salvation is about deliverance from sin, not just forgiveness.

“I want you to think about the scandal of being chosen… The scandalous call of God.” (Lance Wallnau, [24:50])
“He is sent to save you from— but as you are struggling to overcome, you are a Christian. God’s desire is to give you even more grace.” (Lance Wallnau, [26:44])

5. Divine Revelation, Prayer, and Spiritual Warfare

[33:10]

• Wallnau delves into the nature of prophetic revelation and the relationship between spiritual insight and spiritual warfare.
  • When God gives revelation, demonic resistance rises ("warfare is over revelation").
  • Daniel’s prayers and encounters with Gabriel serve as examples of how persistent prayer brings angelic intervention.

“You have authority to affect the spirit realm and the angelic activity by what comes out of your mouth because you're authorizing something by your utterance.” (Lance Wallnau, [36:24])
“Warfare is over Revelation. For the abundance of revelation an enemy was— a spirit was sent to afflict me.” (Lance Wallnau, [41:27])

• He discusses Gabriel as both messenger and warrior—correcting common stereotypes ("Michael is not the only warrior; Gabriel wars to deliver revelation").

6. The Power and Process of Growth

[49:28] and [54:20]

• Wallnau returns to the theme of formation and growth, both for Jesus and believers.
  • Even Jesus “grew in wisdom and stature and favor.”
  • Listeners are encouraged that feeling “not ready” is normal; spiritual capacity increases over time.

“If Jesus could grow, you can grow… He started off small, and he grew.” (Lance Wallnau, [54:37])

7. Historical Clarifications—Jesus’ Early Life

[56:20]

• Wallnau debunks common nativity misconceptions, noting that the Magi visited Jesus at a house (not a manger), highlighting Joseph’s practical provision.
• Shares a point about the practical wisdom of God’s timing—sometimes, protection means waiting for opposition (“Herod”) to be dealt with before stepping into destiny.

8. The Spirit-led Life—Modern “Mr. Magoo” Moments

[57:50]

• Wallnau shares a modern testimony of being “led by the Spirit”—intending one thing, but divinely redirected for a greater purpose (encountering and ministering to a congressman).
• He parallels this with the biblical figure Simeon, who is led by the Spirit into a divine appointment at the temple and recognizes Jesus as Messiah.

“That’s the kind of… Magoo anointing… I pray that for you, because then God gets all the glory and you feel at times limited, but God gets the glory.” (Lance Wallnau, [59:46])

Notable Quotes and Moments

• “The enemy has always wanted to destroy the genealogy and to destroy the bloodline, to destroy the believers that are on the earth and to reduce them to a remnant... But he never lets the witness go out.” (Lance Wallnau, [09:59])
• “Jesus in a sense is producing many sons… this 14th generation becomes the generation that Jesus himself sires.” (Lance Wallnau, [20:34])
• “You have authority to affect the spirit realm and the angelic activity by what comes out of your mouth because you’re authorizing something by your utterance.” (Lance Wallnau, [36:24])
• “If Jesus could grow, you can grow… He didn’t start off with full stature. He started off small, and he grew until he was fully matured…” (Lance Wallnau, [54:37])
• “That’s the scandal of the cross. The scandal is that Jesus said he was… the virgin birth is probably one of the greatest arguments for the divinity of Christ…” (Lance Wallnau, [58:54])
• “That’s the kind of… Magoo anointing… I pray that for you, because then God gets all the glory and you feel at times limited, but God gets the glory.” (Lance Wallnau, [59:46])

Timestamps for Key Segments

| Time | Topic/Quote | |----------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:26 | Introduction to “unusual” Bible study; the purpose of genealogies in Matthew | | 04:19 | Story of Jezebel, Athaliah, and preserving the Messianic bloodline | | 10:28 | Hanukkah, the miracle of oil, and God’s preservation in times of desperation | | 17:22 | Exploration of the 14 generations in Matthew; believers as Christ’s “offspring” | | 24:00 | The scandal and supernatural in the birth of Jesus | | 33:10 | Revelation, spiritual warfare, and Daniel’s angelic encounters | | 41:27 | "Warfare is over revelation…"—role of prophetic and apostolic commission | | 49:28 | Angelic intervention and the power of prayer—persisting until the answer manifests | | 54:20 | Growth: Jesus increases in wisdom and stature, believers grow into their callings | | 56:20 | Correcting nativity misconceptions; practical lessons on timing and provision | | 57:50 | Personal story: being led by the Spirit into a divine encounter; parallels with Simeon's Spirit-led encounter in Scripture | | 59:46 | Closing: Living a Spirit-led "Magoo anointing" life, trusting divine redirection |

Tone and Takeaways

• Tone: Warm, conversational, often humorous; passionate about scripture’s overlooked depths; occasionally self-deprecating or irreverently playful (“the world’s most unusual Bible study,” “Magoo anointing”).
• Key Takeaways:
  • God’s faithfulness persists even at the darkest hour—He always preserves a witness.
  • There are mysteries in scripture, like the 14th generation, that point to believers’ active role in God’s plans.
  • Spiritual growth is a process, and God’s call often draws us into the unexpected.
  • Prayer, revelation, and uttered words have profound spiritual impact—even provoking supernatural conflict.
  • Being "scandalized" for responding to God is consistent with the biblical narrative. Embrace being chosen, even if misunderstood.

This episode provides both deep scriptural insights—especially regarding the genealogy of Jesus and its present-day spiritual implications—and practical encouragement for believers navigating adversity, spiritual warfare, and discerning God’s hand in the unexpected.