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Officer Tatum
He's.
Lance Wall
He's taken. He's taken another role. It's a sacrifice. He's not selling himself out to go be in the FBI. So, anyway, so Tatum said some things that I thought would be interesting for you to hear. They're like two minute segments. I don't know how much I'm allowed to play someone else's broadcast, but I don't know. On Internet, I suppose I'm honoring the source. This is trigonometry. I'm listening to them, and I'm thinking, you know something? He was closer to the Turning Point Inner Circle than me, and he has some curious observations to make. Let's go ahead and play cut one, and I'll interrupt it when I have to.
Officer Tatum
But there is no money in sanity. There's money in hysteria and getting everybody worked up. The amount of conspiracies around Charlie Kirk's death is literally one of the craziest things I ever experienced. Like, you know, I've always been on this. I have never been a part of a conspiracy, meaning that this situation happened to this person. I don't know. I don't know nothing about the situation. I'm just watching on TV like everybody else, and then there's conspiracies, and then you may buy into the conspiracies. No, I'm a part of this conspiracy. Like, I knew Charlie. I know the security team. I know everybody that work at Turning Point usa. I know the video team. I know Erica, you know my wife and Erica text. Like, we know all of these people. I worked for Turning Point since 2017. I was the only person in the last two years doing campus tours like Charlie was. He would do his tours, I do my tours. Like so in the same video team. A lot of them guys would work with me. The same security team protects Charlie for, I don't know, 10 years now. And so when I see people saying stuff, it's like. Whereas it's levels to it, right? I know some people are ignorant, they don't know nothing about nothing. They just like to post. But then it goes to the point where there are people that know the same people I know and say things that are incendiary. And it makes my blood boil. Like I feel like I'm getting worked up now just thinking about it because it's so egregious what's happening to those young people that work for Turning Point, the video team.
Lance Wall
Hold it right there for a second. So any may go back and cover some minutes later, but I want, I want you to catch this. What he's saying is that Turning Point, like you've heard this and I've heard it by it's stupid, but I mean. And these are friends of mine. I'm sorry, but like first of all, I have like a 50 text. Hey, Candace is talking about you. It's like, why are you listening to Candace Owens in the first place? I mean, you're part of the problem. You're feeding it. You're like, well, I gotta go. I don't know why people, they know she's off, but I think part of them is so conspiracy mesmerized that they're seduced. It's kind of, There's a way you can deliver this drip feed of oh, I had a dream and then, oh, I've got a source and why is the FBI lying about me? And you can create this whole kind, if you're really good at it, you can create this illusion. I think Alex Jones is good at it. It's a, it's a, it's an art form. It's the ability to create this dramatic conspiracy constellation that is resisting you as you're crusading to get the truth out and the people are with you getting the truth. Well that's the illusion. So then you come along and you go, well, let me find out who she's talking about. And then I find out it's me. I go, wait a second, I'm not the guy. Then my dad is hilarious. I want to go there yet. 99 year old guy fought in World War II. And you know, he hasn't been in the military, you know, since he was 30, 20. And he said, oh, here's my dad. And supposedly he's the central actor in the great military conspiracy behind Charlie Kirk. What the H are you talking about? This is 99. He was the oldest living veteran. He put on a hat. He was very proud of it. But he's a World War II vet, you dummy. Are all the World War II vets equally suspect? Evidently. Rob McCoy. If you're a pastor and yet your dad served in the military, Candace has a connect. She's connecting the dots. Well, anyway, so what Tatum is saying here, and it's important you get this, he's saying that he knows the people. Frank Turek is an apologist. He's a Christian apologist. Charlie traveled with Frank because Frank helped him structure arguments. Charlie Kirk was an autodidactic, like me. He could have gotten a lot of degrees, but he went to the universities and the schools to do the coursework. He wasn't looking for the degree. He wanted to do the study. And he taught himself. He would surround himself with apologists who had arguments that were shaped over years in campus debates so he could learn the flip chart of, how do I answer this? How do I answer that? And those are the people he was with because he stood all alone at Oxford line up. All the Oxford Ivy Leaguers, the left wing, you know, propagandized youth with their attitude, and they line up one after another. And by himself, like Maximus in the arena, he just knocked them left, right, led a hostile audience. He just did it by himself. And like he said afterward, he said, man, it's a psychological trip. Takes a lot out of you. So you have pastors with you that pray for you, friends that work with you. And these are the people, the beautiful people, the Christians that work with Charlie that are being smeared as though they're part of an assassination group. That's the crap that's coming out of. Of. Of Candace right now that needs to be spiritually shut down by praying Christians, because I think it's satanic in origin and not even human, because the damage it's doing. But let's go ahead and listen to the frontline guy. What is. What does he know about that crew?
Officer Tatum
He worked with them, took an SD card. Mike Turek, who they were doing. He was doing a hat adjustment. I know that guy. Frank Turek is a great guy. He's a Christian guy. He's one of the biggest Christian apologists that go on campus every day. He was Charlie's good friend. I was just at an event before this, like A year before that, riding in the car with him, you know, he's a mentor, he's a great man. And then people on TV saying he doing hand signals. His security team, these guys are all professional individuals that protect Charlie with their life for several years. Everywhere he goes and you think they're doing a hand signal. So it's. Anyway, hold on, hold it.
Lance Wall
Right, we got it. We got to take a quick break. I don't want you to miss this because what happened with Frank is Frank was adjusting his hat and they go back and they catch it and they go, look at him. He's doing like signals, like a third base coach. He's doing certain hand signals. Hey, go get him now. Go get him now. Only people that don't know anything would say that. But for someone to repeat it and use it as what's going on here, that's criminal misinformation. All right, we'll be right back.
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Lance Wall
All right. Do you remember how I said earlier, the part that really is weird is you've got four or five trans violent incidents, which is, I think, mental illness, agitated by a cocktail of testosterone and other psychoanalysis drugs that you're taking to transfer your gender. You got Antifa with its violence at Berkeley. I could bring it up right now and show you. They're attacking Turning Point at Berkeley. They're in Chicago, they're in Seattle, they're in Portland, they're in New York. Antifa now designated like a terrorist organization that prides itself on being decentralized, so you can't really nail it. Charlie was worried about them. The violent Antifa prayed that he would be protected from them. And this guy that shot him was involved with a trans relationship, homosexual, trans romance, who was angry at Charlie and had antifa labeled bullets that were prepared to take him out, folks. And instead of that being the focus, somehow the focus became Bibi Netanyahu. Watch this.
Officer Tatum
Some people are taking advantage of the moment, which means that it's a lot of money in conspiracies. Now that I found out, I wish I was a part of conspiracy making way more money. I make it now. But there's money in conspiracies, but also there's people who have another motive and it's rooted in antisemitism, which makes everything that happens go down the path to lead to Jew street, meaning that everything that they do have to lead to the Jews, which will make people go up and beyond to outrageous links beyond conspiracy to make this person responsible or this group of people responsible. So those are kind of like the two phases and dynamics that I see in this whole Charlie Kirk thing. And Israel in some cases.
Lance Wall
All right, let's stop for A second. So if you're an evangelical Christian, we're very quiet on this. I mean, I think Steve Bannon probably gets a little bit in the chat thread from the war room. For the most part, we aren't the people that are protesting. We don't yell, but we will talk to each other. 40 million of us, by the way, that vote MAGA. We are the backbone of the populist movement, the Christian base in America and the folks that love God and love America, that are the religious crowd. And Trump knows they're there. I mean, he's very keenly. He calls them our pastors. That's why he wrote the strong text about his true social about Nigeria. He refers to our Christian people. He identifies. He knows this group is a large part of his support base. But I want to share something with you. Thus, Christians know that the Bible says that the whole world is going to be dealing with Israel in the last days as a troublesome stone. As a stone that is a burden, as a cup that is trembling. Meaning that every country that tries to pick up that Israel issue ends up dividing the land. And when they divide the land, when they hurt that land, God takes it personally. And you could trace the downfall of the Dutch Empire, the Spanish Empire, the British Empire, all of these great powers when they decided that they were the adversary of this land that God has a covenant with, not with the geography, but with the forefathers. Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, the promise that 6 million or 7 million of these people would have a certain inheritance in that land. And God says his controversy is they divided the land. And when Jesus comes back, if you're a Bible believer, don't talk to me about third Great Awakening and say we're in a spiritual battle and screw up on this point. When Jesus comes back because he is risen from the dead, they couldn't find his body. They would have loved to have found it and stomped out that movement 2,000 years ago. But his body is, according to the apostles, ascended and will descend in like manner to the Mount of Olives. He's not going to Poughkeepsie, New York, or Trenton, New Jersey. He's going to Israel. Why? Because history is going to be wrapped up in the same place where it was consummated. The cradle of of Eden is where the Messiah was crucified. And he's returning back to that GPS location. And he's doing it at a time when all the nations, the Bible says, are in a sense, adversarial with that little country and they cry out to him in that last moment, blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. When they cry out for him to return, that's when Yeshua, which is the Jewish name of Jesus, Yeshua, returns and delivers Israel. So I really don't. I know that the whole world turns anti Semitic. My fear is my country will abort its own mercy, which it needs no more Gospel's been preached more here than in Africa or in communist China. And in the face of it, we blaspheme, rebuke, belittle, and persecute Christians. So I fear that when we become anti Semitic, that's the moment when America gets redefined. In the Bible, you don't find it in the last days. All the other names, I tell you, it's weird. I can show you Russia. I can show you Iran. I can show you Egypt. I can show you Georgia. Then they're almost still called by those names. Libya in the Bible, Ethiopia, it still uses those words. I have a problem finding the United States, and a true prophetic student of eschatology will share that concern with me. Like, where are we? Lance well, if anything does blot us out of the history of the nations at that time, when the Messiah returns, it's because it forsook the God that gave it mercy by turning its back on the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob and making the Jew their enemy. Can't imagine any more. And the 40 million educated evangelicals understand exactly what I'm talking about. So I want you. I want to. I think it's a spiritual battle we're in. Plate cut 2. It's a spiritual warfare we're in.
Officer Tatum
So it has become no longer right, left, it's become right, wrong. Like these people over here, in my opinion, are being spiritually led by the devil. And I know it's a strong statement. I really believe that with my heart, the devil is deceiving people, that they cannot see the reality of what's going on. Charlie Kirk, in his own words, had made mention before he died, and he will tell you the biggest threat that he felt. And he said the assassin culture of the far left, trans extremists. We've seen them shoot up schools. They've done a whole bunch. And it's not, and let me be clear about this, it's not because they're trans. It's because they're mentally ill. And trans is one of the outlets or the expressions of a mental illness in some of these people who are. Who are out of their minds. Charlie Kirk mentioned this right before he Died. Everybody that you see on this side that's losing their mind mimicked and echoed exactly what Charlie Kirk said when that transgender person went in that school and shot those kids at the. I forget the school that they just did it at. When they went and did that, everybody on the right was like, trans issues. The transgender. Transgenders are murderers. And all this other stuff, which I thought that they went a little too far by saying trans. It's really the mental illness expressed and transgenderism. And then when Charlie dies from the very thing that he said was what happened to him, his very fear, they lost their minds and forgot the whole plot. This is the. Exactly what who we think is trying to kill us is. That is the people who have been brainwashed, who have a mental illness, and they are hypersensitive in the trans world. And this person happened to be with a trans person, and he happened to shoot Charlie after a trans question. It's very clear to me that the enemy of the conservative is the far left extremist and maybe some jihadists. If it ever gets to that point, I think it will, but that is our enemy. But when you see people at the death of Charlie Kirk, it's almost like God did a separation of the wheat and the tear. Charlie Kirk was like this, you know, I could say the crescendo of the separation between good and evil. I really do believe so. His death should have been about revival, should have been about Christianity, should have been about the great things he's done. The people that's talking about him, that knew him should be raising money for his family, like we're doing. I mean, we literally get a T shirt for Charlie, and 100% of the profits go to his wife. This is what they should be doing. Instead, they're following a path of division and evilness because some of them know better.
Lance Wall
And listen to this. Because Frank Turek has a family member who was in the military. Because I have a dad who was a World War II veteran, the oldest living veteran of World War II, 99 years of age. Somehow when he dies, he's somehow part of the conspiracy. My dad put me in a military academy. Yeah, I have a military background. The extent of my military background is my dad sent me to a Valley Forge military academy, put me in a military high school for 15, 16, and 17 to get me away primarily from girls, because he didn't think I'd graduate if I didn't go to a military school. That's the extent of my high level FBI military integration with the Pentagon to Kill Charlie. And then you got Candace saying that the staff, you know, the young guy that went and grabbed that video clip of what happened, you know why he did that? He did that because he was afraid that someone could tamper with the evidence. And he wanted to make sure that whatever evidence he got, he'd get over to Cash Patel and the FBI. Because that camera had the back angle of the crowd. He was afraid it would get tampered with. The guys who were just in their hat were putting on sunglasses. They were his debating coach partners and pastors and prayer partners. The people that were in security were there for 10 years devastated by this. I got another footage I'm going to do in the next broadcast which shows these precious young people in Turning Point. They are not the inner city street crowd. They're putting on more courage at Turning Point now than I've seen in any organization because they're not frontline fighters. These are not brawlers. These aren't brick throwing antifa people. These are young college kids from healthy families that are. Many of them are Christian. And they're simply trying to stand up in courage for their campus right now while they're being bullied by the sliming of people on media who are accusing his staff, friends and wife of being part of his conspiracy. And I say it's demonic as hell. And now's the time the church needs to stop and say, you know, you could either you could keep slowing down your car and driving by this train in this car wreck just to gawk at it, or you could, you could put an end to it because this infighting that is happening in the church that the innocent people that are now getting drawn into it, I think now's the time in the name of Jesus that God brings his hand down and says stop. I pray that the mouths are stopped that are profiteering off of chaos. I pray that as janneys and jambres were exposed in Timothy in the day refers to the day when Moses had to deal with magicians and court seducers. I pray today that the jannes and jamboree spirit of deception and is exposed and made manifest for the folly that it is. Because we have got to get our act together in this country and this sideshow for money has got to be quashed. Anyway, that's my cheery exhortation for today. I'll be in a better mood tomorrow, I promise you, after I watch what Candace says about me. Anyway, God bless you and we'll talk to you later. Bye bye.
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Lance Wall
Well, here we are back again. By the way, I'm gonna get a new set one of these days. I'm taking a look at it. You're gonna come around the holidays. You're going to notice because you know I've got one font for Lance Wall. Now there I Got another we the People font down here. Certain brand people said, you know, a little too much going on here. So we're going to have a new set. I'm prophesying it because we're going to have a new look coming in the new year. Meanwhile, I want to go back to the subject at hand. What do we do with the. The addiction to the conspiracy theory that just is. It just stimulates the. I don't know how to describe it, but it's a spiritual addiction. You know, the Bible refers to something called itching ears. The Apostle Paul said that in the last days, people will heap up for themselves teachers because they have itching ears. It's an interesting language. It means that they don't want to hear normal stuff. They want to hear weird stuff because it stimulates and provokes and, well, I'm going to give you more normal because we got to deal with the crazy, the crazy Candace stuff going on. So, Officer Tatum, the thing that he said here in this segment, a couple of things I thought was interesting, but one of them was, do you realize how these beautiful young people. I ended the last segment talking about this? They're not built for this kind of conflict. It's great courage on every campus where the students are coming forward and wanting to have a turning point. You know, what do you call it? Chapter on the campus? And then the left comes no, and the administrator says no. And then the lawyers come along and say, you got the courage, we'll fight it for you. Yeah, we'll fight. We'll take it on. And then, boom, the lawyers come along and then we're at a moment now where our culture's going back and forth. I mean, we're still figuring out what kind of country we're going to be. But virtue is winning and the campuses are getting their chapters. But then these thugs, these dangerous, violent paramilitary leftists that kill people and burn down buildings and destroy Tesla dealerships, they show up also. And so you're seeing that at UC Berkeley, where chaos outside of Turning Point gathering ends with multiple arrests. The, the anti Turning Point antifa crowd shows up, of course, in Berkeley with a fireball was ignited, a car backfired spooking agitators, and a man is in a viral video beating a Trump supporter. A Turning Point person near the University Berkeley campus on Monday evening has been arrested. That guy charged with a violent crime. Thank God they got a film, a video of him stealing and breaking a necklace off of another guy and then pounding him. One of the men was wearing a red T shirt that said freedom. The same shirt that Charlie was wearing when he was assassinated. But that was all it took. He was beaten and bloodied because he dared to try to wear the symbol of Charlie's assassination. Police, upon further investigation, found a second man involved in the fight was trying to attempt to rob the guy of his, of his necklace. And, and I just. You're looking at the footage here. If you're listening to me on a podcast, I'm playing B roll that shows that, that these, the suspects, male and female, turned violent against what? Conservatives who just had their young 31 year old founder shot in the neck and murdered him. Cold blood in front of the world. And now they've got the bonds. Inexcusable. Inexcusable. All right, Officer Tatum, you were retired. You left the police force, you became a Turning Point spokesperson. I enjoyed talking to you, but let me play a little bit more of his interview here. Go and play. Cut three.
Officer Tatum
Back to the whole thing. I just think that I don't understand the level that people go to, to try to think or say that Israel was behind this, to say that Turning Point was behind this. I know these young people, they wouldn't hurt a fly. I was on campus and I got attacked at UC Davis. Now I could have whooped all these little non binaries myself. I mean, I wouldn't even ball my fist. I could have just been slapping them left and right. But I was trying to protect the image of Turning Point and not be the black man knock. Now college kids, you know, I'm, I'm 30 something years old, so I kind of like just made sure I defended myself or whatever the case may be. But the kids that were doing the film were, were flustered. I mean, they're shaking. They, they, they don't know how to handle conflict. I was a cop and I fight people and pulling guns on people. And so these young people are scared. They, they, they don't know how to handle conflict. They're intimidated. They don't know what to do. They wanted to quit, they wanted to go home. And these aren't people that will coordinate an assassination. You get what I'm saying? These young people on campus are now getting death threats. Young people who are working with Turning Point and now being framed as being a part of some collusion to get rid of Charlie Kirk. And it's very hurtful. Erica, I don't know her as well as I know Candace, but Erica, every time I've met her, she's so sweet like you see her, like you Know, you see, that's like a genuine. She's genuine like that. When you talk to her, she's so like, I'm praying for you. God bless you. I love you. Thank you so much. It's so sweet. She's. Every time I see her, she's like that. So when I see her now in her grief, I'm like, this is exactly who she really is. It's not up front. And she's a really strong believer in God, you know, and so she know how to compose herself to do a press conference. And then she's probably falling apart at night. I mean, I can't stop tearing up thinking about the babies, you know, so it bothers me when I see stuff. And it's not just Candace's, what Candace is saying. It bothers me when I see all these people saying these things, knowing that the video team is in fear for their lives. People want to kill them. People are shaming them. And they watch Charlie get killed in front of them. These guys are not in war, like, you know, they didn't. They're not like my guy who protect me, who's a decorated military guy. They have never seen people get beat up in front of them. They never seen a conflict. They probably never fought anybody. To see Charlie get shot and blood gushed from his neck and watch all this trauma happen, you know, they're.
Lance Wall
They're.
Officer Tatum
They're damaged for life.
Lance Wall
They're damaged for life. And these are the people Candace and company are vilifying as part of the internal military industrial framework of seven mountain infiltrators. As though Charlie got off track. It wasn't what Turning Point was. Well, Candace, you don't know what Turning Point became because Charlie was adept at coalition building. He could text you and he could text David Rubin. He could text a Joe Rogan. He could text a Tucker Carlson. He was building a coalition for conservative causes. But he wasn't inviting you onto the platform, was he? He wasn't bringing you out to Amerifest, was he? He was making sure that you were loved and stayed in a good relationship. But he had enough discerning to know that for some reason, you weren't that trusted. But he was increasing in his strength. He was becoming like Stephen in the Book of Acts. He was bringing his conservative worldview to its logical next step. As he studied at Hillsdale and began to look at the philosophical foundation of Aristotle, Plato and the Enlightenment and the Founders and the Reformation teaching. And he began to build a hierarchy in his mind that God must be Preeminent to have an ordered society. And that it's not enough to just defeat the argument regarding capitalism versus Marxism or boy, you know, versus girl in terms of gender. If we're going to bring it back to the Bible, let's go to the ultimate question. God exists and man is accountable to God. Under God. God has an order. And under the order, he wants men and women, the nuclear family, to be able to have children, to have meaningful work, to have, to have self expression. And as citizens, they have to guard the freedoms that God has given them or they will lose those freedoms. He built an ordered philosophical structure and he brought that to the forefront. And that's the reason why the Bible and Jesus were so important. Because unless a person can submit himself to the righteousness of God through Christ, recognizing that I am sinful, that my warring propensities, my self indulgence, my lawlessness requires a restraint. And either it's external by government or it's internal. And God puts that internal compass on the inside of you the moment Jesus comes into your heart. So you see, Candace, it wasn't as though he got off because he was infiltrated. He actually went beyond you. That's why he left you where you were, because he got clear while you're in the fog. And trust me, if he's coming to anyone to go speak to them at night, he's going to slip into the dream life of his wife and not you. Now, I know that sounds harsh, but I mean, let's face it, since I'm evidently the organizer of January 6th and working with the Pentagon on a hit squad, I have a right to my own opinion. She is disconnected from reality. She has slipped the cog. She's one hamburger short of a Happy Meal or whatever the saying is. But pray for her. I'm praying that her influence is unplugged because our movement cannot afford to have a circular firing squad with the Jewish people at the middle of it. We have to get our act together or the left is going to beat us up in the midterms. And that must not have. Charlie was here, he'd say, stop it. Get your focus on the enemy that is here. This movement is violent and destructive. We've got to stop it. It's a political battle we're in. So how does the left take over the West? This is basically. You would recognize this, you that are more educated on these subjects. It's the long march through the institutions. This was the socialist Gramsci's theory of the Italian father of institutional takeover, who ironically was locked up by Mussolini. But the guy said if we can get into the institutions, we can take over the west for Marxism and socialism and ruin and dismantle the Christian influence over culture. And the way that we do it is we got to get into the church. We have to invade the family. And we have. And so I was saying that part of the same sex marriage agenda and the BLM agenda was to shatter and blow up the mom, dad and child scenario and make it man, man, woman, woman, with, with whatever. So this is, and I'm telling you it's a demonic entity. It's a demonic ideology because this, it literally says we're gonna go after the church. We're gonna have to the family in education. We're going to, we're going to train them From K through 12. Why do you think they want to do drag queen hour with your children? Because they want to normalize the absurd with children. And then why do you have a 30 to 1 or 18 to 1 ratio of left wing professors to conservative professors at the university level? All these mountains will be educated, will be led by college graduates. I mean that's where we put the social capital in the west. Get a college degree. Well, you go to the top colleges in the country and what do they have? They have a DEI qualifying curriculum. No longer the students with the greatest aptitude, but representing diversity, dropping the standard and then basically programming them with an 18 to 1 ratio to 30 to 1 ratio of professors who aren't there to teach you how to think, but are propagandizing you with what to think. That's why you find 64% of your students, anyone under 30, voting for socialism. Soros has gotten. And these guys, these cats, not just Soros, the ties foundations. I could give you a list of 30 organizations that are all on the same bandwidth. What they have in common, weirdly enough, is they don't want a conservative worldview or a Christian worldview. So education gets taken, family gets redefined, church goes woke up. Then you had. Do I have to tell you what happens in media where stories are going to be distorted, misrepresented, spun. Soros has just got, I think he put a $300 million. Well, he has 300 stations, radio stations he's buying. So I'm watching conservative guys now getting moved off of radio stations because the stations are being bought. Media is the first thing that the bodily enough, the fascists take over. The moment they take government, here they go and grab media. Because the government is the crown power that has the fist and the police that enforces everything. And this is the propaganda vehicle. What am I showing you? The seven mountains that I teach over here is actually seven spheres that disciple a nation. And if you're not careful, you will see the family invaded. Education taken over, media propagandized government will rule over everything. Your arts and entertainment will then be, will be likewise controlled by the propaganda arm, normalizing what never should be normal. Do you know that there are scripts in Hollywood that up until Trump came back in that they were actually requiring that you have to have so many, so much of this has to be like representing gay friendly or trans. In other words, within the script, the approved Hollywood script, there had to be some form of genuflection to these ideologies in order to be tolerant and diverse, to have the diversity in Hollywood production. And then of course, you've got the business mountain over here. The reason I'm pointing this out is as I looked at it, I said, what part of this should a Christian not be involved with? So I come back to my illustration here and I say, well, let me just think about this for a second. Let me try to get some better colors here. We'll go with red. Right now I think that the church really needs to be preaching the full gospel. I don't think they should be bowing to the pressure of woke ideology. I think, I don't even think there should be a wall there between the church and the rest of culture. I think you're supposed to go into all the world, go into all of it. I think the family structure and the church should be influenced by godliness. And I think that the, the relationship of a family is only going to be as strong as the fathers are strong and the fathers are strong when there's a culture that reinforces the role of men. But if men are going to be beat up by the left so that they all look like thugs and like they're toxic masculinity, then they all become feminized and they try to do what you're telling them to do. And then you don't have family structure anymore. And by the way, where do you think all the criminal activity is coming in right now? You call it racist, but it's just data. The majority of hard crimes are being done by fatherless black males because the system is set up in such a way that it incentivizes the mother not to be married in order to be able to get checks. So the baby daddies, which is what we find out, they have multiple children with different men completely atomizing and destroying the nuclear family for the black community, which up until the 1960s had an 80% strength in terms of family origin. And then from the 1960s down, you see the fragmentation of the. Of the African American household, and you see the rise of crime with young men that don't have fathers. Listen, this is just data. I got this, by the way, from black economists who explained to me the destruction of the nuclear family and the impact of it disproportionately on the black community. But what you see here in education, should there not be a conservative argument? Charlie Kirk, talking about him, was killed because he came onto the campus and brought an alternative holistic worldview rooted in conservative ideals, founded on biblical principles, philosophically grounded arguments that could help take a child out of chaos into coherence. He became that lone voice in the education mountain. But don't you think we need to have. What I'm doing now is I'm talking to you on media. Don't you think we need to have broadcasting that challenges ideas, freedom of speech, that allows other worldviews to come along? And how about in terms of government, conservative government, that. That can Christians not serve in government? Is a. Is a person allowed to be a Muslim mayor of New York? And everyone on the left celebrates the fact that they have that diversity. But if a Christian runs as a Christian mayor of New York, well, that's Christian nationalism. Do you notice where the politics plays in the narrative there? And how about the Arch Mountain? You don't think we can create God glorifying stories that inspire people? Does everything have to be violent, garish, or perverse in order to be able to sell? No. Storytelling is the art of the Gospels. Can Christians not participate? Can Michelangelo not paint a ceiling? And how about the business world in terms of economics? There should be a ladder that allows people to go up, but people should not be punished because they aren't the right political persuasion, which has been happening to conservatives for too long. Debanking. I've had it happen to me. We've had it happen to others. Where the. Where the environment punishes you because you come out of the closet as a Trump supporter. So what I'm showing you here is this. This is what is typically called the seven mountains of culture. And the reason why guys like me are being vilified is because we're saying Christians must get engaged because these structures here are actually high places of influence. Whoever controls the education mountain is controlling the formation of the values and thinking of the next generation. Whoever controls that media apparatus is taking the truth or they're perverting the truth. Which one would you rather have for society? And what we're saying is these seven areas actually are areas that Christians are allowed to make a living in. And if you're a Christian, you bring the health of your worldview, the hope of your worldview, the coherence of your worldview into that arena. And you should not be punished because you have a biblical worldview. And now I'm coming along to something that took place. I asked for some data from my team here. What happened with Charlie Kirk. I want to go right back to this inflection point because we're being attacked now suddenly January 6th because of the influence of people like Candace. Now the people involved with January 6th are being reframed again as insurrectionists, when in fact we were up there to try to protect free elections, which you've got now. And then you have the insertion of, I think, the federal government and the antifa crowd to create the chaos that was utilized by media against Trump and against his movement. And now the narrative is being shifted. Somebody is talking to Candace and giving her. It's worming into her thinking. That and 100 other points of departure from reality I think we need to focus on. But when I think about what happened with Charlie, look at, look at the demonic attack. I believe a demonic attack happened. You talk about spiritual warfare, not just in killing him, but his great fear before that attack happened to him was the. He was worried about Mondami and the under 30 crowd for two reasons. One, they were becoming anti Semitic, anti Israel, and he saw that and was trying to figure out how to address that. He saw them frustrated because they can't own homes and they would easily fall prey to socialism. He wanted to beef up the turning point presence on campuses and utilize media and continue to get up the vote. He would be fanatical right now about stopping the infighting. Stop it, all of you, and focus on the midterm elections that are coming. Because the goal of the left is to disembowel Trump's power so that they could impeach him, take him out and recapture the White House and put the government back in power, the corrupt government back in power. The problem is obviously the Jews and the military and its turning point itself, that is the. That is the enemy. That's the Lunas. This is now the argument we got. Tell me that the devil hasn't succeeded in taking what should be during a mid term, one year, till midterms. Instead of focusing on the left and the danger of what they represent. We are now focusing on anti Semitism. And you've got infighting from Levin with Bannon and Shapiro with. With. With. With. Who is it? Fuentes and Tucker Carlson? It's the devil dividing this MAGA movement. And what's sad about it is what should have been the unifying focus has now become the fragmented focus, where we're in a circular firing squad. And this next week, I got an answer, because people like me are being brought in as though we are the problem. The Christians praying for America, laboring for its revival, struggling at a key inflection point to see it made stable. I need your help. We're going to need to pray like we've never prayed, because this is the most powerful supernatural psyops Operation Boom. To fragment the cohesion of the American MAGA base at a time when we need to be the most focused. We are now shooting each other. Tell me that ain't the devil. All right, we'll come back again in our next broadcast and pick up on this cheery holiday note. Where do we go from here?
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This episode of "Firewall with Lance Wallnau" (Real America’s Voice, 2025-11-22) explores the aftermath of Charlie Kirk’s assassination, the ensuing surge in conspiracy theories, and the fracturing within the conservative movement—particularly around Turning Point USA. Host Lance Wallnau critiques the infighting and conspiracy-mongering, specifically addressing allegations circulating via Candace Owens and her audience. Wallnau, joined by clips from Officer Brandon Tatum, emphasizes the spiritual stakes of the conflict, the attack on traditional American values, and the dangers posed by misinformation, anti-semitism, and internal division within the movement.
Officer Brandon Tatum shares his firsthand knowledge as a longtime Turning Point affiliate, emphasizing the insanity of conspiracies following Kirk's death:
Wallnau rebukes the public’s appetite for these conspiracies: "Why are you listening to Candace Owens in the first place? ... You're feeding it. You're...so conspiracy mesmerized that they're seduced." (08:39)
Misinformation spreads rapidly, as mild behaviors are twisted into sinister acts—e.g., security staff adjusting hats are accused of signaling for an assassination. (12:27–13:09)
The episode is a wide-ranging, impassioned plea for unity within the conservative and Christian movement in the wake of Charlie Kirk’s death, denouncing conspiracy theories, internal division, and anti-semitism. Wallnau, bolstered by Officer Tatum’s behind-the-scenes insights, urges listeners to reject destructive narratives, support honest investigation and spiritual integrity, and remain engaged in the broader cultural battle for American values. The call to action is clear: focus on the true ideological adversaries, defend traditional values across all spheres of influence, and refuse to let the movement be destroyed from within.