Real America’s Voice

Episode: FIREWALL WITH LANCE WALLNAU - NOVEMBER 30th, 2025
Host: Lance Wallnau
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts
Date: November 30, 2025

Episode Overview

This episode of "Firewall with Lance Wallnau" delves into the intersection of faith, current events, and American values in the wake of Charlie Kirk’s assassination. Lance Wallnau reflects on the importance of approaching news with biblical discernment, addresses the fragmentation within conservative movements post-Kirk, discusses economic realities with a precious metals expert, and offers a spirited retelling of the "true" Thanksgiving story with a segment by Rush Limbaugh. Critical commentary is offered on personalities like Marjorie Taylor Greene, the instability in financial markets, and the pitfalls of groupthink in media and political spaces.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Balancing News and Faithful Thinking

(03:14–10:43)

• Lance opens with reflections on how Christians should engage with news, referencing Philippians’ exhortation to think on what is true and noble despite a troubled news cycle.
• Recalls Chuck Missler's advice: “you need to have a newspaper in one hand and the Bible in the other” to discern truth amidst biased narratives.
• Announces a renewed commitment:

  "I'm committing to you... I'm going to practice what I preach... Bible on one hand, news on the other. Boom." (33:53)

• Introduces the idea of the "signet ring anointing," where Christians make an imprint for God in the world by prayer, prophecy, and prevailing communication.

2. The Impact of Charlie Kirk’s Assassination

(10:44–15:36)

• Lance connects Kirk’s death to a period of fragmentation and betrayal in the conservative movement, referencing Acts 20:29:

  "I know that after my departing, grievous wolves are going to enter in among you, not sparing the flock." (13:30)

• Describes Kirk as a rare, unifying apostolic leader fostering unity and action among young conservatives, especially on campuses.
• Predicts infighting and division among conservative commentators and leaders, specifically naming Candace Owens, Nick Fuentes, Tucker Carlson, Steve Bannon, Ben Shapiro, and Mark Levin.
• Critiques their Christian maturity and spiritual discernment, particularly targeting Candace Owens for sowing confusion and embracing conspiracy.

3. Wealth, Precious Metals, and Economic Reality

Interview with Philip from Birch Gold
(19:53–28:34)

• The Case for Silver:
  • Silver viewed as accessible for average investors; growing industrial demand (solar, electric, AI), shrinking supplies, and favorable prices.
• Liquidity of Precious Metals:
  • Lance asks about accessing funds. Philip reassures:

    "The ability to sell is very, very important... really, really simple... We can buy the metals back from them. We charge no fees or commissions to do it." (22:08)

• Financial Market Risks:
  • Discusses warnings by Jeff Gundlach and Ray Dalio:

    "The economy today is amongst the least healthy he's seen in his entire career." (Gundlach via Philip, 23:59) "Price signals can lie. Big numbers on a screen aren't necessarily the same thing as real wealth." (Philip, 24:30)

  • Wallnau and Philip explore the risks of confusing financial assets with actual purchasing power, especially in overvalued markets.
• Cryptocurrency Market Crash:

  "We've lost about $1.2 trillion in value over the last five weeks… That is not a price drop, Lance. It is a forced deleveraging event." (Philip, 25:58)

  • Crypto collapse is described as a warning sign (the "canary in the coal mine") for broader market instability.

4. Psychological Bubbles and True Wealth

(27:02–28:34)

• Dalio’s metaphor for market value:

  "If the US Mint stopped making pennies, and I've got a roll of pennies... I sell you one for $10, does that mean the other 49 are now worth $490? I don't think so..." (Philip, 27:25)

• Warns against mistaking inflated valuations for actual wealth; identifies bubbles "all over the place" in the economy.

5. Thanksgiving: The Real Story

Rush Limbaugh Segment & Lance Commentary
(33:36–64:49)

• Lance frames the Thanksgiving narrative as a critical counter to “progressive propaganda.”
• Rush Limbaugh’s Retelling:
  • Pilgrims fled religious persecution, formed self-governing community based on biblical principles.
  • Early communal/socialist system failed–led to near starvation.
  • Adoption of private property and free enterprise led to prosperity:

    "Bradford assigned a plot of land to each family... thus turning loose the power of the marketplace... [socialism] didn't work. They nearly starved. It never has worked." (Rush Limbaugh, 59:48)

  • Success attributed to capitalism and scripture, not just Native American help.
  • The lesson: American abundance is rooted in individual enterprise and biblical values, not socialized structures.

6. Conservative Movement Fragmentation & Marjorie Taylor Greene

(43:36–50:07)

• Discusses the fallout as Trump withdraws support from Marjorie Taylor Greene, reading Trump’s (fictional) vitriolic post:

  "All I see is wacky Marjorie do is complain, complain, complain... unless, of course, she had my endorsement, which she wasn't about to get..." (Lance quoting Trump, 42:42)

• Analyzes Greene’s motives, speculating she's using publicity for personal gain, and cautions about "punching up" at leadership:

  "Whatever strength you have, if you overextend it, it becomes weakness... If you ever punch a gorilla or a lion... you're not punching parallel; you're punching up. Never punch up." (Lance, 51:44)

• Draws parallels between Greene’s trajectory and other divisive figures (e.g., Candace Owens).

7. Faithful Engagement with News and Prayer

(33:36–36:44)

• On facing the negativity of the news cycle:

  "My job is to put a chalk mark around the news to show you where the actual facts are and separate them from the CIA and the QAnon conspiracy interpretations..." (Lance, 33:36)

  • Describes a new model for the show: Bible in one hand, news in the other, guided by prayer.
  • Encourages audience to become a "praying audience"—foreseeing judgment for those unprepared spiritually.

Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• Lance Wallnau:

  "Chuck Missler said it once... you need to have a newspaper in one hand and the Bible in the other." (04:15)

• On Charlie Kirk and the Movement:

  "Charlie Kirk was, if you like it or not... a 31 year old young apostolic leader... forging together the finances, the operational capacity, the articulation of arguments…" (11:02)

• On Candace Owens (critical tone):

  "She talks like, like, like. Like a deluded fanatic. And if you're listening to her every day, you got a problem." (14:49)

• Philip, on Gold & Silver:

  "Gold is a monetary metal. It's a dollar hedge, it's a wealth preserver... Silver is a little bit different. It's a safe haven asset, but also has industrial uses..." (20:07)

• On Cryptocurrency’s Crash:

  "We've lost about $1.2 trillion in value over the last five weeks… That is not a price drop, Lance. It is a forced deleveraging event." (25:58)

• Rush Limbaugh on Thanksgiving:

  "The real story of Thanksgiving is William Bradford giving thanks to God for the guidance and the inspiration to set up a thriving colony that socialism caused near starvation. The bounty was shared with the Indians... but it wasn’t the Indians who saved the day. It was capitalism and scripture which saved the day." (Rush Limbaugh, 64:13)

• Lance Wallnau (On discussing news going forward):

  "You have to have the Bible in one hand and the newspaper in the other and then the discerning of spirits right there in the middle, like a plumb line to tell you what reality is. That's my new commitment for the new year... I'm starting it right now." (33:53)

Timestamps for Important Segments

• Opening Reflections on News & Faith: 03:14
• The Death of Charlie Kirk and Movement Fallout: 10:44
• Christian Discernment and Fragmentation in Conservative Circles: 13:30
• Gold & Silver as Investments: 19:53–22:08
• Market Bubbles and Cryptocurrency Warnings: 23:57–28:34
• Rush Limbaugh’s Thanksgiving Segment: 56:18–64:49
• Marjorie Taylor Greene Commentary & Trump's Public Critique: 43:36–51:44
• Lance’s New Commitment to Coverage (Bible + News + Prayer): 33:36–36:44

Tone and Style

• Lance’s style is candid, conversational, and occasionally irreverent, blending spiritual references and practical commentary with pointed, sometimes acerbic, critiques of both political opponents and conservative peers.
• The episode maintains a tone of urgency and conviction, targeting both spiritual edification and “real world” strategizing.
• Notable moments of humor and metaphor (e.g., “putting a chalk mark around the news,” “signet ring anointing,” “the Thanksgiving Ivermectin against progressive propaganda”).
• The episode seeks to embolden like-minded listeners to sharpen their worldview with faith, discernment, and skepticism toward both mainstream and alternative narratives.

For listeners who missed the episode, this summary captures the blend of cultural critique, faith-based analysis, economic insight, and historical counter-narratives that characterize Lance Wallnau’s approach on "Firewall."