Real America’s Voice: Firewall with Lance Wallnau
Episode Date: September 21st, 2025
Host: Lance Wallnau
Episode Focus: Reactions and reflections on the assassination of Charlie Kirk, the ensuing cultural and political fallout, the rise of anti-conservative violence, and the potential prophetic significance of the current moment in American history.
Episode Overview
Lance Wallnau addresses the shocking assassination of conservative leader Charlie Kirk, examining its political, cultural, and spiritual repercussions. Wallnau discusses AI’s role in shaping mourning and activism; critiques both media and left-wing reactions; warns against conspiracy on the right; and delves into prophetic possibilities for America’s future, including referencing Kim Clement’s prophecy about a rising “Esther” figure.
Key Discussion Points and Insights
1. Digital Mourning and The Role of AI
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AI-generated Encouragement:
Wallnau opens by describing how AI has been used to comfort a grieving young woman by compiling encouraging quotes from Charlie Kirk (05:50). He finds it "strangely encouraging," seeing it as a sign of technology being harnessed for good in faith communities.“This young woman asked AI, what would Charlie say right now? First, I want you to know I’m fine. Not because my body is fine, but because my soul is secure in Christ. Death is not the end. It’s a promotion... Don’t waste one second mourning me...”
(AI compilation of Charlie Kirk, 06:01) -
Stages of Grief:
He discusses collective trauma and the danger of the "anger" stage leading to destructive actions (07:20).“When you go through a trauma of any sort... the first stage is like total disbelief. … The most dangerous part of that for our movement is anger...”
(Lance Wallnau, 07:22)
2. Conspiracies, Deception & the Danger of Unfounded Theories
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Rebuking Anti-Semitic Conspiracies:
Wallnau challenges those in the MAGA and Christian spheres who claim Israel or Jewish figures were behind Kirk’s assassination, labeling such thinking “crazy.” He calls out Candace Owens for perpetuating related conspiracy theories (09:15).“Any Christian or movement leader in MAGA who is a believer that believes that Israel is your enemy and that the Jewish people are somehow your enemy opens you up to a spirit of deception... There’s something particularly pernicious and toxic…”
(Lance Wallnau, 09:46) -
Comparison with the Occult:
He equates the anger and hatred infecting political movements to the influence of the occult (11:20).
3. Martyrdom and the "Seven Mountain" Movement
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Wallnau claims Kirk is a “first fruits martyr of the seven mountain movement," referencing the mission to infiltrate different spheres of influence (education, media, government, etc.) with Christian values (15:20).
“He was a believer with a strong church commitment who went... into the education mountain to go battle the ideologies of professors and win the youth.”
(Lance Wallnau, 15:46) -
He notes that Charlie Kirk’s influence in youth, media, and politics was uniquely impactful (16:30).
4. False Narratives in the Media and Violence Justification
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Dissecting the Media’s Framing:
Wallnau refutes initial media narratives that labeled Kirk’s killer as a conservative or from a "conservative Mormon family," revealing evidence of left-wing and Antifa connections (21:42; 26:10).“The first lie about the killer’s far right wing alliance was exposed when he found out he had antifa language encoded on the shells he left...”
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Academic Evidence of “Assassination Culture”:
He cites a Rutgers study revealing that over half of self-identified leftists see political assassination as justified (29:45).“56%... reported that if someone murdered Donald Trump, they would feel at least somewhat justified.”
(Discussing Rutgers study, 29:52) -
Call to Reject “Both Sides” False Equivalence:
Responding to political commentary and media, Wallnau urges listeners not to be swayed by narratives equating right-wing and left-wing violence (32:10). He recites a list of recent violent actors with left-wing or trans affiliations (33:00).“The trans ideology is demonic and creates deadly radicals. The legacy media knows this... and pours kerosene on the trans movement to create more radicals.”
(Citing Seth Gruber, ~33:20)
5. Prophecy, “Esther,” and Future Hope
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Kim Clement’s “Esther” Prophecy:
Wallnau revisits a prophecy from Kim Clement about the rise of a healing woman (Esther-type figure) and debates whether Charlie’s widow, Erica Kirk, could fulfill this role (44:00).“There shall be a woman that shall rise up, a woman that shall be strong in faith, virtuous, beautiful in eyes... I have crowned her, says the Lord, as I crowned Esther…”
(Kim Clement prophecy, 44:27) -
He plays a moving clip from Erica Kirk, citing her resolve as embodying the prophecy’s spirit while noting Clement’s prediction involved larger political and spiritual shifts (47:35, 48:20).
“If you thought that my husband’s mission was powerful before, you have no idea... The cries of this widow will echo around the world like a battle cry.”
(Erica Kirk, 47:55)
6. No Unity With Those Glorifying Violence
- Wallnau (and JD Vance via quotes) argue against calls for “unity” or “healing” with those who demonize or justify violence against conservatives (56:08).
“There is no unity with people who scream at children over their parents’ politics... There’s no unity with people who celebrate Charlie Kirk’s assassination.”
(Summing up J.D. Vance’s argument, 56:30)
7. Accountability, Law, and Justice
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Need for Investigation:
Wallnau and Steve Bannon call for exhaustive investigation into the assassination (58:25).“We’re not going to have another grassy knoll... We owe Charlie Kirk’s children... to make sure that they know the facts of who murdered their father in cold blood.”
(Steve Bannon segment, 58:50) -
Crackdown on Organizers of Violence:
Stephen Miller is quoted promoting using government power to dismantle radical left organizations (01:01:40).“There is a domestic terrorism movement in this country... We are going to do what it takes to dismantle the organizations and the entities that are fomenting riots, that are doxxing, that are trying to inspire terrorism and that are committing acts of wanton violence.”
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Spiritual Framing of the Conflict:
Wallnau stresses the need for "focused, not conspiracy, nutty talk," urging listeners to resist anger but to pursue justice and societal renewal through truth and faith (01:10:00).
Notable Quotes & Moments
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On the Digital Revival:
“There's a digital revival taking place right now... It's nothing short of a miraculous digital revival where multiple millions, particularly of young people... go to the computer. They go to the AI, they go to their phone...”
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On Anti-Semitism and Occult Influence:
“If you’ve opened yourself up to that, like Candace Owens for instance, then what comes out of you later on is a deceiving spirit that she's in agreement with and it leads to conspiracy theories of different iterations.”
(Lance Wallnau, 10:47) -
On Erica Kirk After Charlie’s Death:
“I promise I will never let your legacy die, baby, I won’t. I promise I’ll make Turning Point USA the biggest thing that this nation has ever seen... I love you, baby. Rest in the arms of our Lord...”
(Erica Kirk, 51:00) -
On Left-Wing Rhetoric Leading to Violence:
“When you see these organized, doxing campaigns where the left calls people enemies of the republic... what do you think they're trying to do? They are trying to inspire someone to murder them."
(Stephen Miller quoted, 01:01:00) -
On the Political and Spiritual Tipping Point:
“Now’s the time for cold laser-like steely resolve to hit the targets. The funding, the organization and the infrastructure of the radical left...”
(Lance Wallnau, 16:10) -
On the Possibility of National Healing:
"For those that are overly eager for healing, I want to remind you there’s a time ... to pull down, to tear down, to destroy and then to build and to plant. You have to tear down what is destructive in order to heal."
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Cultural Reference:
“It’s like the scene in Star Wars... Obi Wan Kenobi gets killed by Darth Vader [and] says, strike me down and I will become more powerful than you could possibly imagine. Well, that’s exactly what Erica said has happened.”
(Lance Wallnau, 01:10:48)
Major Timestamps
| Timestamp | Segment / Topic | |------------|-------------------------------------------------------| | 04:45 | Digital revival & AI’s role in grief | | 06:01 | AI-generated Charlie Kirk comfort segment | | 09:15 | Conspiracies, anti-Semitism, and deception | | 15:46 | Charlie Kirk’s “Seven Mountains” mission | | 21:42 | Media’s narrative on Kirk's killer | | 26:11 | Antifa/logos on shell casings | | 29:45 | Rutgers “Assassination Culture” study | | 33:00 | List of left-wing/trans shooters (Seth Gruber quote) | | 44:27 | Kim Clement “Esther” prophecy recitation | | 47:55 | Erica Kirk’s battle cry clip | | 51:00 | Erica Kirk’s promise and love for Charlie Kirk | | 56:08 | J.D. Vance: no unity with those celebrating violence | | 58:25 | Steve Bannon: need for investigation/accountability | | 01:01:40 | Stephen Miller: crackdown on domestic terror orgs | | 01:10:00 | Closing—Focus, resolve, and Star Wars reference |
Tone and Approach
The tone is urgent, passionate, and combative, with strong religious and nationalist undertones. Wallnau frames the episode as a spiritual battle, blending scriptural references, contemporary political analysis, and emotional appeals to his audience’s faith and patriotism.
Summary Takeaway
This episode is a call to arms—spiritual, ideological, and political—against what Wallnau sees as a rising tide of left-wing violence and anti-conservative sentiment, catalyzed by the assassination of Charlie Kirk. The host encourages listeners to resist anger and sensational conspiracy, instead committing to resolve, truth, prayer, and organized action. Interspersed prophetic commentary invites listeners to contemplate whether the current struggles portend a divinely orchestrated restoration and national renewal.