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Erica Kirk
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Lance Wallnau
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Lance Wallnau
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Lance Wallnau
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Lance Wallnau
I want to talk to you right now about the service that took place with Charlie Kirk. You know Charlie, they'd open with a very interesting revelation. I want you to hear this now. The revelation was the young man who was working as Charlie's like alongside his, I guess, chief of staff. I heard it was Rob McCoy's son. I didn't know it was his son.
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Erica Kirk
Mikey. Mikey McCoy.
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Lance Wallnau
Mikey. Mikey McCoy. And he said Charlie would always talk about how as we would talk and we didn't really realize the extent to which when Mario Bramnick and I were saying we've got to figure out a way to turn a Trump rally into a revival, which is virtually impossible. I was hoping maybe with Paula White involved or you know, with Jensen Franklin, I mean, I'm sure the opportunity is yet there, but we did see it. But I found out Charlie was saying the same thing. He was saying, is there a way we could get the Holy Spirit to show up at a Trump rally? Wouldn't that be great? Because Trump, Donald Trump is as you know, this would drive some people crazy. He's anointed by God and called by God through answer to the prayer of God's people. According to Isaiah 45, he's a modern day Cyrus for the sake of nations. And so when I heard that, I thought, I wonder if my friend Kim Clement, you know, I used to tease and tease him. You could never tease him. Actually, we go to dinner and I'd say, you, my friend, shall be remembered as the modern day Nostradamus. When you are gone, they will be plucking out little quotes of Prophecies like they do in Nostradamus. And whatever world event happens, they're going to thread it back to something you said, and I'll be darned if it isn't true. Right now we've got Erica, you know, people reminding me, what do you think about the prophecy Kim had about the woman with the big beautiful eyes and how she's gonna pour oil upon the nation? It's gonna bring healing in the middle of the presidency. I said, oh my gosh, Erica Kirk. And I was pushed back on this because, I mean, Charlie and I even talked about Kim Clement. Believe it or not, Charlie had someone feeding him questions. I was annoyed, actually. I wanted to talk about what I'm gonna talk about. And he was asking me Kim Clement questions cuz someone on his staff was feeding him lines to ask. Anyway, Kim does mention, as he did with the uncanny gift, that he had a turning point in America. I don't ever think it's a coincidence when Kim is prophesying about bitterness and division and political rivalry and then coming to a crescendo. You could say the radical left at the point where it shoots and murders the messenger on the right who they want to vilify and misrepresent. But it was a Christian speaking boldly in the name of Jesus on campuses. Well, that's a moment of bitterness, but it becomes a turning point. Watch this.
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Kim Clement (Prophetic Voice)
I was overwhelmed by a strong presence of hatred and bitterness permeating from the citizens of the United States of America. When I sensed this, I sensed I was literally tasting the bitterness. Not that would only come, but that is present. And God was so grieved because this was not just believers, unbelievers, these were believers as well. I could sense this coming from unbelievers and believers. So much so that I sensed God was severely grieved. That politics and the economy and the news media has put us in a position where we are completely corrupted in our hearts and bitterness is coming forth. Instead of praying, prophetically calling out to God, I sensed corruption after that and then an exposure of this by a strange happening, a strange turn of events. Now, this is what I. This is what I saw at this point. Now remember, we're speaking about a corruption that we don't know about yet, and the strange happening or strange turn of events that will literally be the turning point in American history. Now that's a big thing to say. I'm saying what I've heard. It's not happening. But please repent if your heart is bitter and you have Hatred, because it's not going to help you living like.
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Lance Wallnau
That as warriors, praying prophetically. If I was with Kim and that prophecy was coming up now, I'd be so interested in hearing what he has to say to add to it. But he's describing government economy, which is business and media. You could put academia and then the word corruption. What we are realizing is that the entire government apparatus is a gigantic money machine, kaching and power machine. That this shouldn't surprise us that threads through the gates of the authorities over academia and the universities and in the government. And then the funding of organization, the billionaire class that funds the left wing organizations and, and, and then the media lies and distortion. And what's, what strikes me as interesting is I was asking the Lord saying, how can they misrepresent Charlie Kirk? How could they despise him and hate him when he's virtually ubiquitous in media. 100 million views a week. The Lord says they're not looking, they're not listening, they're not watching. They think. Now here's, here's, here's what the Lord showed me. There's a guy on the left in the Democrat Party named, I think his name is David Hogg or something like that. He's roughly Charlie's age. He's absolutely like everything that Carvel will say is dangerous for the Democrats ever getting elected. He's radically hostile to, to your freedoms, to your ability to defend yourself, protect yourself. He's basically like an anarchist activist, popular voice and made it and got himself famous dealing with, you know, shootings in schools and such. But when I see his face on the right and I see he's saying something, I immediately tune him out. Now here's the danger. I believe I have an accurate assessment of who he is because I have to immerse myself in the Daily Beast and Rolling Stone mostly because when they wrote about me, I started subscribing and how could they say those terrible things about me? I know me and I'm not like that. But then I started reading what they say and we listen to the left. So I've listened to David Hawks Hogs, isn't it?
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Erica Kirk
It's David Hogg and he was involved. He was at the Parkland School shooting. So he got put on the map because he was interviewed by the cousins.
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Lance Wallnau
And then, and then he launched his activist career. Democrat Party didn't launch a career.
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Erica Kirk
He, it got leveraged into that. He was a victim of that and now he speaks out against it.
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Lance Wallnau
So which launched his career as a Democrat funded activist I don't know if.
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Erica Kirk
I'd word it that way, but go for it.
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Lance Wallnau
But here's the point. He is a spokesman, I believe he was up for the speakership for the Democrat Party. He attempted to become. Check it out. While you're doing your AI research, check it out. He was. I believe he was. He was contending to be the spokesman for the Democrat Party, and they kind of voted him politely off to a secondary position. My point is this. They look at Charlie Kirk with the same brand that we have of David Hogg, meaning that they have no sympathy because of a misrepresentation. One time I got invited onto Harvard to go speak at an event. I had police warning me. There was, you know, protesters there. There was a dangerous situation, they said. But I felt compelled to go because once it became an issue of courage, I felt the issue wasn't going or not going. And prudence. The issue was whether or not I was gonna let fear dictate whether I went. So there's some other well known preachers, speakers that canceled because of this. And I said, I can't do it. The students asked me to not cave in. They were Christians that were holding this little seminar. So when I get there, I meet with some witches that were organizing curses against me. I met with atheists, and I met with a homosexual advocate. All three of them heard me, and it was like a Charlie Kirk moment when they heard me and talked to me afterward and said, I have to say, I don't agree with your politics, but they totally misrepresented you. They told me you advocated for the burning of witches. They told me you wanted to stone homosexuals. They told me you were trying to shove your religion and force everyone to convert. And so I remember the guy, the owner of the manager of the Harvard pub was one of the atheists who organized the event. And he said, I feel kind of bad about this because I'm the guy that put. I'm the dean of the summer school, and I organized it. He said, I'm Jewish. I didn't really know what you were all about. But after I heard you. Let me ask you a question. Would you be my guest at the Harvard pub? I said, sure, we could bring all these guys. And we all went down to the Harvard pub. Now, my point is this. When I came back, I went up there nervous. I came back with a testimony. And the Lord said, had you not gone into their environment, the stereotype they had of you, which Satan painted, would have been the only image they'd have of who you are, therefore, you must understand. Christians must go into all the systems, all the world, for the simple reason that the, the stereotype that Satan has created regarding who you are and what you represent can only be shadowed by proximity and exposure to the authentic and the real thing. While I was there, I met the activists who were funded as journalists who planted the fake stories. I met them in a strange way. I met them because I was, I looked at these two people and I felt compelled to go up and engage a conversation with them. And they were a little stunned because they realized that they were there to spy out me and write about me. And they, they had planted the stories working for one of the Soros funded media outlets. And I, I didn't know who they were and they were realizing that I'm targeting them specifically out of a crowd to approach them, to talk to them. And I invited them to go in the back, back room with me to get some coffee. I just wanted to explore what the, you know, what, what the protesters and what the students. I didn't know who they were. Students, protesters, whatever. And I sat back in the back and talked to them. Now, they were not converted. The audience was. In other words, if you have a lot invested, which is the politicians, the David Axelrods, the Obamas, I really do not look for them to ever change. And I'm sorry, I'm a Christian. There is a Saul DePaul conversion. I get that. But it's gonna take getting smacked, knocked down off your horse by a divine intervention to make that happen. Our job is to get the campus people or the people that are hearing the lies to get exposed to who we really are, to shatter the stereotype and then to give an articulation of the reason for the hope that is in you. You don't have to enter the debate arena like Charlie, like here, hit me with a thousand questions and I'll just be Solomon. You simply have to know how to hold your own concept sufficiently so that you can give a reasonable or a reason. Or a logismos is what the Greek word is that Peter is using. In the Greek, the, The give a logismos for a logic, for the hope that you have, the belief that you have. I think the body of Christ is to be trained to be apologists, not to apologize, but to defend the proposition that you have. Because the gospel goes into every area of life and government. There is a biblical worldview that applies to all of life, not just to getting into heaven when you die. We'll be right back.
- [13:19]
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- [13:44]
Lance Wallnau
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- [13:48]
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- [14:02]
Lance Wallnau
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- [14:04]
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- [14:11]
Lance Wallnau
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- [14:23]
Lance Wallnau
Welcome back to the Lance Wall now show. The one place you can go where you're gonna get an honest, I would say an earnest, prophetic perspective on the current trending news and events. Mercedes Sparks is right over here to my side. Hi, Mercedes. Now, I'm only going to talk for a moment about Jimmy Kimmel. The Kimmel kerfuffle. So big deal. Jimmy Kimmel, his, you know, starts using his FCC license platform to spread disinformation to the audience that. Remember what I said in the earlier segment. We're dealing with mass stereotype psychosis. They have draped one half of the United States in the language of Nazi fascists, Christian nationalists and they. And they conjure up all kinds of images of danger. Danger. Meanwhile, every three days there's another deranged leftist killing somebody in the United States. Did you know that so far I looked at the record for how things have been going because before Charlie was killed, you had the throat cut of that poor Ukrainian girl cowering under the menace of a demonized man who has 14 convictions and is still running loose with a knife. And it was race rage that he did it. He wanted to get a white woman. That's what he said. And the point is that these demons want race wars. These demons want us to divide at the most anatomical level, the lowest possible to Balkanize the United States into warring factions. Which is why the unity of the United States are a one nation under God is indispensable to the ordering of our public life in such a way that we could exist as a community that has law and peace. Well, the reaction to Jimmy Kimmel getting suspended was uniquely hypocritical. In that the President of the United States was de platformed from Facebook and from Twitter, silenced and exiled to Mar a Lago where the guns came out to raid and put false evidence out there with the hopes of putting him in prison. That's how dangerous and corrupt the country was. Back to Kim's prophecy. The corruption that will be exposed, which still hasn't adequately been exposed because of the fog of so much, the blizzard of, of corruption. But Kimmel gets suspended because he lied. Here's the point. He said it was a right wing maga extremist that killed Charlie Kirk and then good riddance and, and you know, and mocking him, Charlie Kirk, for virtually, you know, deserving it. In other words, the David Hogg effect. Putting him into a box of stereotype that his audience wouldn't know how to differentiate and then lying about what happened. Well, that got a response because these people live in their, live in their own little bubble. They have a coastal elite bubble. And it's easy to do if all you do is hang out with. It's like that one lady said after, I think it was Nixon got elected in a landslide, she said at NBC, at NBC she said, I don't know how he got elected. Nobody I know voted for him. And that was the revelation I got when I heard that. Nobody. I. So if you're in the, if you're in the left wing bubble, as some of my family members are, the academics especially, they're living in a, in a kind of like an unusual world which has its own bubble. They listen to certain, they're reading the New York Times, they're looking at the Wall Street Journal, they're listening to CNN and MSNBC and then, and so the, you know, on Face the Nation on Sunday morning, if they watch that at all. But what's going on is they're only getting the propaganda. They're listening to the Communist news network telling them America is like the Great Satan and China is, you know, the answer to your problems. So that's all they're hearing. Jimmy Kimmel comes out of that same bubble every night. He lives in that elite bubble along with Stephen Colbert. You know who doesn't live in that bubble in entertainment? Bill Maher. Do you know why? Because his show forces a dialogue with opposing views. These guys have no opposing views in their world. So Kimmel comes out with the self righteous, smug, you know, extension of the news as he heard it. It's a right wing extremist killed, you know, this, this nut job, Charlie Kirk. Well, now you could See if you have Sinclair and these various distributors, the way that these ABC is at affiliate stations and Nation, you know and then Disney owns that. And so you got a pyramid of business complexity which Middle America, Peoria, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. The markets that are covered, Tulsa, these guys know, hey man, that started to light up our switchboard. We're trying to sell advertising, we're not trying to endorse Kimmel. So the executive said find out from Jimmy, is this it? I mean and he's got, no, no, he's got freedom of speech. He's a comed. He's self important comedian who thinks his platform is an endorsement of his worldview. So he's ready to go hammer them with another one. He's going to wait till you hear the next monologue he's telling his friends, yuck, yuck, yuck. You think I'm backing down? I'm not backing down. Well the executives got together and said Disney called and they said there's no way we can afford because two of their major distributors said we're not going to air it, we're going to put something else on. Maybe we'll do the funeral. Maybe that'll be it. We'll cover a memorial, we'll cover the Kirk funeral. And so yeah, I think Disney this go down as a great decision by the Disney CEO who isn't philosophically a MAGA guy at all. The Democrat who's going to go, you know what? Not good business, not good business. And so now here's where the part where they're all hot because the FCC director who is on our side, the kind that doesn't take you like a former president off of Facebook or off of Twitter, he's saying that license is a government given license and there's certain rules. And one of the rules is he could say whatever you want. You got freedom of speech. You cannot be using a platform to deliberately stir up something or, or misrepresent the facts. You can't use it. Uh, it's, it's a license that the taxpayers are paying for it and you. So it's interesting, interesting aspect. Now that wasn't, that's where they're all going all. Everybody's freaking out. Even our side is freaking out. Oh, we gotta be careful about that. They don't care about silencing you. When I got knocked off of YouTube and lost 250,000, 200,000 subscribers, um, thank God my business model wasn't based on that. I would be broke. I would have learned my lesson. Don't you dare Say what the censors don't want. But you know what? That's how they ran it. That's how they ran it. When you talked about Dominion Software or Covid, remember those words? My staff would go bleep all that out of my mouth. I knew what they were doing. I'd do my show and you'd end up 25 minutes, have an 18 minute broadcast. They would protect me from myself because I was under censorship. So don't act like this hasn't happened. The Democrats will start to do it. The Democrats do it. Your challenges keep them from power because what they do is they label you in a way that endangers. It's not their side getting targeted, it's us getting targeted. Because this Nazi fascist label they put on us makes us a public enemy. And some heroic butler PA 22 year old with half a brain listening to the left is going, who's playing games all the time? Is ready to go load a gun and be a hero with their peer group by taking you out. This is the mangione, this is the nut job that shot the CEO of the insurance company. And I even hear my own in my own circle. Well, you know, the insurance companies are pretty bad. Oh great. So now we start killing media personalities like Charlie and CEOs who run businesses because public killings is our way of virtue signaling. Well, that's where we're at. That's why there has to be a reset on this whole conversation. You know who got that? Johnny Carson got it. There's a reason why they all wanted to get that Tonight show job. But Johnny still is the king and he had a he. Not that he wasn't tempted. That Satan doesn't come and offer you, oh, if you would only do this or only do that. Your ego. You have your own opinions too, don't you? Watch Charlie's response with Mike Wallace. Trump would say, the great Mike Wallace. Watch this interview, this brief interview, because you get a glimpse, even the expression on his face about, hey, that's a dangerous slope. The entertainer has to be careful what he does.
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Robert Kennedy Jr.
He gets sensitive about the fact that people say he'll never take a serious controversy. Well, I have an answer to that. I said, now tell me the last time that Jack Benny, Red Skelton, any.
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Lance Wallnau
Comedian used his show to do serious issues. That's not what I'm there for.
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Robert Kennedy Jr.
Can't they see that?
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Lance Wallnau
But you're not neither. They think that just because you have.
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Robert Kennedy Jr.
A Tonight show that you must deal in serious issues.
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Lance Wallnau
That's a danger.
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Robert Kennedy Jr.
It's a real danger once you start that you start to get that self important feeling that what you say has great import. And you know, strangely enough, you could.
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Lance Wallnau
Use that show as a forum.
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Robert Kennedy Jr.
You could sway people. And I don't think you should as an entertainer.
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Lance Wallnau
I don't think you should as an entertainer. Well, Mercedes, what are your thoughts on this? You're sitting over there listening to me rant away.
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Erica Kirk
No, I think you bring up a good point. I mean, I can't tell you how many times when we go out places, we go on the Courage tour or we're written about with false accusations. And I literally, we talk about this like, you know, I'm always carrying, you know, everyone in my house knows where everything is and where to find things. But we live in a really scary time.
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Lance Wallnau
Wait, wait, wait, wait. That's code. What do you mean they know where everything is? What are you talking about? They know where the garbage disposal is.
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Erica Kirk
Do they know that's what that means? They know where the garbage disposal is. But what I'm saying though is, you know, it's a really interesting time and place where after Charlie's assassination, my daughter turns to me and goes, see, this is why I don't like when you go out and you speak. This is why I worry about you and Lance. And you know, my response to her is, I think what all of our responses, which is, I said, sweetheart, I'd rather, I'd rather lose my life telling the truth than not tell the truth. And that's just the line of work that I'm in and Lance is in. And so it's just really, it's scary when people are being radicalized through like you're saying, left wing wing media and social media posts and tiktoks. And they are in this echo chamber of the same opinion and honestly dehumanized in many ways. That's one of the bigger takeaways is that the left removes the human element of, well, we must not have anything in common. Well, we all have families, we have mothers and fathers, you know, we have sisters and brothers. We all go to work. I mean, there's an element of where we actually have more in common than we, than we think we do. And so, but that's, that's something that doesn't factor into this very unhealthy mindset that I think sometimes we have it on our side. But predominantly it's more so on the left. And I think that's why so many moderates, like a moderate Democrat is now on the conservative side to say I'm not crazy. You know, it's like. Like I. I'm want fiscal conservatism and I might agree on the social issues, but man, I don't agree with killing someone in cold blood. And it's just. It's just getting more and more radicalized. So. Anyways, there's a long answer to your even longer rant, but those are my thoughts.
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Lance Wallnau
Well, this may surprise you, but I actually have. In the LGBTQ community, I have some friends, and one of them is a. Interesting. She's a lesbian, you could say, who came into the MAGA movement because she loved RFK and was following him. And then when he endorsed Trump, she would talk to me about it. She wanted to figure out how in the world will I ever like Trump. And she started listening to Charlie Kirk. Cause she's younger. And she said, I know he doesn't like endorse my lifestyle, but I cried and cried when Charlie died when I heard that. Cause I felt like I lost a friend. And I wanted to talk to you about it. You see, now that's Jesus. That means that the individual and their integrity and their value is always held in a sacred space by a true Christian. Their ideas are separated from them. The ideas can be bad, but the person themselves is made in the image of God. Martin Buber, the German theologian, before the Nazis started to take guys like him, he was Jewish and put them in camps. They first dehumanized him. They did documentaries showing the Jews like deranged people. And then they had rats in a maze. So you'd associate psychologically. And I it they are not human. They are vermin. And that's how you could justify killing an animal. See, you can kill the fascists because they're not human. They're a vermin. And that's the dangerous slope that, you know, I believe when a carving down the middle, the Christian worldview says I am related to you as made in the image of God. I thou the secularist who speaks on the other side that attacks us that says that Charlie's meeting was a Nazi rally. I watched one nut job wrote that. They want to make you an it because an it you can kill as a public service, but a thou you must hold sacred. Christians are separated from the world in that they have an I thou relationship even with their enemies. We'll be right back.
- [28:24]
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- [28:50]
Lance Wallnau
Bring the boom.
- [28:51]
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- [28:54]
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- [29:08]
Lance Wallnau
Where do you see the business actually heading?
- [29:10]
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- [29:16]
Lance Wallnau
The only constant in Hollywood is change.
- [29:19]
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- [29:27]
Lance Wallnau
Well, here in the Lance Walnut Studios, I want to cover for you the rally that turned into a revival, the memorial that turned into a move of God, the funeral that. That was invaded by. By the spirit. Mercedes, you're with me here in the studio. Did you watch the entire memorial service?
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Erica Kirk
I did, actually. I went to church, and then I came home and I watched the entire thing. So I went from my phone to my TV and I just had it on all day.
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Lance Wallnau
But did you watch the parts that went on during. Because there was going on during your. During church?
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Erica Kirk
No, no, I went to. I went. It was done by the 11:30. It goes 11:30 to 1:30.
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Lance Wallnau
Okay. All right. So I was flying. So I came in, I caught it in the air, and Delta Man, I caught Erica while I'm flying. And I'm sitting there. You know me, I'm like, I don't get emotional. I'm crying. I'm sitting there looking for cling necks. I'm getting all emotional. And the only reason I get emotional is I swear it's not. Well, sometimes it could be. Maybe with Annabelle, with a movie. I can't think of anything. But at least once, I recall getting a little weepy.
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Erica Kirk
Joy's wedding.
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Lance Wallnau
Joy's wedding. I cried at my daughter's wedding. It's terrible. That's why they didn't want me to do the wedding. They thought I'd just be. They couldn't rely on me. And they were right because I didn't know. I just got all choked up. Anyway, now, one of the interesting things about the memorial services, both the one that was in Phoenix and one event that I looked at, which was in Dublin, Ohio, that took place September 14th as part of a candlelight vigil organized by the Ohio College Republican Federation, is Vivek Ramaswamy was talking about the personal side of his time with Charlie because they traveled around to campuses and did debates on the campus together. And he said something I thought was interesting. He said that he's concerned about the psychological effect of Charlie's assassination. Will it have a chilling impact on freedom of speech on the college campuses? It's almost like, did the devil succeed in being able to create such a traumatic viral video image moment of the death of a, of a courageous debater that other students would be reluctant to step in and pick up the mic that was dropped? Well, first of all, nobody's going to be able to exactly do what Charlie did. We have very few under 33, 31 year olds who can handle electoral politics, philosophy and apologetics about, about the Bible. But I will tell you this. I don't, I don't think that this is going to have a chilling effect upon America's youth, because I believe that the difference between the assassination of a civil rights leader or a public figure who was championing your worldview and the death of a Christian is that a death of a Christian tends to stir up something on the inside of other Christians because of the Holy Spirit. And so what I'm wondering is, is this going to be something which will have a dampening effect on freedom of speech, boldness and courage on the campuses, or is it going to cause the Christians that come back together again, especially the conservative ones, the turning point chapters, some 30,000 more that are proliferating around the United States, this happened in the aftermath of the assassination. I'm thinking that if this was purely secular, it would be a chilling effect, but since it's not, I believe it's going to stir up the zeal of people to want to pick up the microphone and speak up on the issue. Now, we've got some, I think, some poignant moments that I want to share with you from the memorial service. And one of them, I was surprised, I don't know about you. Did you notice, you know, if you're like a wine connoisseur, I hate to put it this way, but those of us that have been around a Pentecostal world for like 40 years, you listen to people and you could kind of tell something about them by the, like, you know, Napoleon once said, why is he so abrupt with people? He said, I want to see how they respond. He said, if I want to know what a bell sounds like, I got to ring it. Well, that's a terrible philosophy. But he would ring people basically by provoking them to see how they reacted in an incident like this, you have a provocation. But how people react tells you a lot about them. And when they try to enter in and talk about spiritual things, you notice the difference between those that have a deep spiritual well. That on this occasion, they're setting aside their normal statesmanlike, you know, inhibition and gushing forth with what is on the inside of them. Or if they're trying to stir it up to sound like they're one of you. Here in the crowd, some of them are remarkably transparent. Tucker Carlson, for instance, revealed what I always liked about Tucker. I could disagree with him about Israel, and I still love Tucker and love to talk to him because. What did he say? He said, he's laughing. He's going, this is more like a revival meeting. I mean, it's almost like he's discovering. I know some. I was raised Anglican. He's discovering this. This is more like a revival meeting than, you know, memorial service. And what is the Gospel? Repent for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. It first starts off with, I gotta change. It's about me, not the politics or the system. I've gotta be the one to change. Do you guys have any of Tucker here? I'm giving his message better. He gives it a change.
- [35:26]
Robert Kennedy Jr.
That matters. When we repent of our sins, we meet. A recognition that the real problem is me and how fallen I am. And that was the reason that Charlie was fearless at all times, truly fearless to his last moment. He was unafraid. He was not defensive, and there was no hate in his heart. I know that because I've got a little hate compartment in my heart. And I would often express that to Charlie about various people. And he would always say, always say, that's a sad person. That's a broken person. That's a person who needs help. That's a person who needs Jesus. He said that in private because he meant it. So I guess I would just say this gathering and God's presence, God's very obvious presence in this room, the presence of Jesus, is a reminder of what we've known for 2,000 years, which is any attempt to extinguish the light causes it to burn brighter every single time. So as we. As we proceed into whatever comes next, and clearly something's coming next, remember this moment. Remember being in a room with the Holy Spirit humming like a tuning fork. This is the way. Right here. This is the way. And that is what Charlie Kirk was saying underneath it all. Thank you and God, I love it.
- [37:06]
Lance Wallnau
Come on now, Tucker, that was beautiful. Wasn't it, Mercedes?
- [37:09]
Erica Kirk
Amazing. He did a great job.
- [37:10]
Lance Wallnau
Gosh, I love that. Let's have Tucker for our next revival meeting. You know who? I want to watch this, watch this. You know who surprised me was Marco Rubio. You know, I never really heard him because he's, he's Catholic. I mean, a lot of our warriors are Pessobic Bannon. A lot of our great guys are, but he gave the gospel like, play, play, play this. I'm loving Marco. Listen to this.
- [37:39]
Marco Rubio
One of the things he wants us to take away from this, from all of this, is the following. His deep belief that we were all created, every single one of us, before the beginning of time by the hands of the God of the universe, an all powerful God who loved us and created us for the purpose of living with him in eternity. But then sin entered the world and separated us from our Creator. And so God took on the form of a man and came down and lived among us. And he suffered like men and he died like a man. But on the third day, he rose unlike any mortal man.
- [38:18]
Robert Kennedy Jr.
And then.
- [38:22]
Marco Rubio
And to prove any doubters wrong, he ate with his decision disciples so they could see and they touched his wounds. He didn't rise as a ghost or as a spirit, but his flesh. And then he rose to the heaven. But he promised he would return. And he will. And when he returns, because he took on that death, because he carried that cross, we were freed from the sin that separated us from him. And when he returns, there will be a new heaven and a new earth and we will all be together. And we are going to have a great reunion there again with Charlie and all the people we love. Thank you and God bless you.
- [39:00]
Lance Wallnau
I'll tell you what, it didn't get any better than that.
- [39:03]
Erica Kirk
No, I know. I love him so much. Like, to me, I know everybody likes jd, but I really love him and I hope that he's our next president, because I think he's. I mean, he's got four jobs right now. You know, he's running like entire departments within the government. And he looks presidential, he sounds presidential, and he very clearly knows the Lord. He could have done an altar call right there and brought everybody forward. And so, I mean, out of everybody who presented yesterday, and I loved Rob McCoy too. I thought Rob had one of the best quotes about who Charlie is and what his mission and vision was, tying in politics with Christianity. But I also just loved everything that Marco said. So I don't know when we get to play my clip, but that was my favorite clip.
- [39:44]
Lance Wallnau
Well, if you want, we'll give you that one free.
- [39:47]
Erica Kirk
I'm teeing it up.
- [39:47]
Lance Wallnau
Clip. I'll let you have it. All right, let me hear it. What did Rob? The Bible says if you believe in your heart and you confess with your tongue, Jesus is Lord, you will be saved. Saved to the glory of the Father. You see, Charlie looked at politics as an on ramp to Jesus. He knew if he could get all of you rowing in the streams of liberty, you'd come to its source. And that's the Lord.
- [40:09]
Erica Kirk
That was just my favorite. I mean, honestly, to me, this is just the picture. Like, when I think about Lance, what you do and what I do, and people look at it as like, oh, Christian nationalism. Which is what I think those people sound like when they say Christian nationalism. It's an on ramp to Christ. That politics is actually morality. It's actually. The left has so legislated a political religion that Christians are now waking up and saying, wait a minute, wait a minute, hold on. You don't have the right to legislate and mandate that I have to refer to you to as whatever your pronouns are. The Bible tells me that God made man and woman. Stop putting men in female sports where women are getting injured and losing scholarship. Stop trying to legislate, you know, abortion on demand. Like, these are moral issues. Legalizing lawlessness. I mean, in so many ways, it's like they've done away with so many laws that protect citizens. And so it's like, we want laws in this land. And so, you know, I look at these issues and I look at what Charlie stood for, and that it's. It's not actually about politics. It's about liberty and freedom. And at the head of that river is Jesus Christ. And that's where our rights come from. They come from God.
- [41:27]
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Lance Wallnau
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- [42:11]
Lance Wallnau
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Lance Wallnau
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- [42:31]
Lance Wallnau
Can hardly believe we're almost out of time. All right, now, look, nobody knows more about death in public service than the Kennedy family. So no doubt, Charlie, at some point, in the close proximity of Mar A Lago, with the many times that the inner circle is all gathered together, he could get a chance to talk. And sure enough, Robert Kennedy shared what would be Charlie's. You know, he got the death threats. We all do. Charlie was going on the campuses, though, so he asked Robert Kennedy about how does he look at this? What's the philosophy, the worldview of a Kennedy about death in public office? Listen to this.
- [43:13]
Robert Kennedy Jr.
In one of my first conversations with Charlie In July of 2021, we were talking about the risk that all of us take when we challenge interest, the physical risk. And he asked me if I was scared of dying. And I said to him, there's a lot worse things than death. And one of those things is if we lost our constitutional rights in this country and that our children were raised as slaves. I said to Charlie, I said, sometimes the best consolation we can hope for is that we get to die with our boots on. Well, Charlie died with his boots on, and he died to make sure that we didn't have to undergo those fates that are worse than death. Oh, let's remember Charlie. He was. For those of us who were friends with Charlie, we don't need any more evidence of the love of God, because the evidence, the friendship, is the best evidence that God loves us all. Thank you and God bless you.
- [44:23]
Lance Wallnau
I love that guy. I mean, he's got such a. He has such an integrous right. He said something earlier, before this. I wish I had picked that clip out for my. My cool editing team back there that's always grabbing these things for me. But he was talking about his whole philosophy of life. Kennedy's just a really great guy. And there are things worse than death. You know, I remember this one guy, Hiram something or other, had this. It was Mormon, actually had this time management system, and it was like the Franklin Planner, I think, is what it was. And he gave him an illustration about finding your why. He said, why is an interesting thing. If I was to take a, you know, a board, a plank, and stick it across, like, 32nd street here in New York, and you're like 30 stories up in the air, would you be willing to walk out halfway For a thousand dollars, would you be willing to walk out halfway for 10,000? What's the price for you to risk your life on a plank of wood? And he said, you know, people, most part, most people are putting their hand up to do it. He said, how about doing it for nothing? So I'll tell you how we'll do it for nothing. You take a three year old who wanders out on that plank when a mother's got her back turned and mom will run out on that plank to save her baby. You know why? It's built into the mother to save that child's life. They don't think about the height, they think about the danger the child's in. There's your why. What Kennedy is saying is that you have to have a why that is bigger than death itself. When Jesus was in the garden of Gethsemane, remember, he was wrestling with having to take the cup and becoming sin and drinking it to the dregs and what he would go through and taste for mankind. And naturally, as a human being, he pulled back from it, pulled back from perhaps the implication of what it would mean to become sin. And three times he gets up and goes and looks at the disciples and goes back. It so impacted me when I started thinking about the why. Three times he got up to go look at the reason why he had to go back. Because if he didn't pay the price, you wouldn't make it. And so having loved them, he loved them till the end. And as he looked at them and said, pray, pray, get up, wake up, pray, get in. You don't know what's going to happen tonight. Three times, I believe that was the why. He saw why he had to do what he had to do. It was for us. There is no other way for our redemption. And having said that, we ought to go right into that beautiful moment when Erica Kirk gave us a precious, I would say the highlight of a Holy Spirit evening where if you are an enemy of the movement Turning Point or Charlie Kirk or Hate Christians, how you could see this moment and not be silenced is beyond my comprehension. Watch this. That young man, that young man on.
- [47:29]
Erica Kirk
The cross, our Savior said, father, forgive.
- [47:37]
Lance Wallnau
Them for they not know what they do. That man, that young man, I forgive him.
- [48:01]
Robert Kennedy Jr.
It.
- [48:40]
Lance Wallnau
I forgive him because it was what Christ did and is what Charlie would do. That's what Christ did. That's what Charlie would do. Charlie and his wife have forgiven the young man that took his life. And that's Christianity. And as she said, she said she just breathed the prayer, you could hear it in the. In the whisper, God help me, because she had a note. She needed to deal with this thing. Not easy, folks. But, hey, look at that reconciliation. Real quick. I want you to pray. Play the reconciliation with Donald Trump. I love this. You can just play it while I talk through it. Video 14. There they are, sitting together. Ah, Shakes his hand. Introduce him to Dana White. Do you know Dana? Taps him on the knee, leans in, and there's a moment. Charlie wanted reconciliation, the two of them, incivility again. And I was happy to see that. Indeed, I think we're all happy to see that. By the way, the President had his own comments in the Trumpian, inimitable style of Donald Trump, who listened to the talking of forgiveness. There's a whole lot of Christians abuzz right now. Oh, what did the President say? He says he hates his enemies. Well, we have some thoughts on that. Let's play the President's response, his moment. He did not hate his opponents. He wanted the best for them. That's where I disagreed with Charlie. I hate my opponent, and I don't want the best for them. I'm sorry. I am sorry, Erica. But now Erica can talk to me and the whole group, and maybe they can convince me that they. That's not right. But I can't stand my opponent. Charlie's angry. Looking down, he's angry at me. Now, in Trump's world, he always refers to his brother, his father. He really believes, like, there's a. You talk about, you know, cloud of witnesses. That's part of Trump's theology. He literally thinks that they're there following him around. What are your thoughts on that?
- [51:06]
Erica Kirk
Yeah, so I have a couple. I mean, one, nobody had it worse than Trump, right? I mean, what did he have, like, $500 million against him? An assassination attempt, multiple felony charges. I mean, he's had it rough. So when he says, you know, I hate them. But, you know, here's the interesting. I thought Lance is. As he continues, he says it, and then it's almost as if the Holy Spirit begins to convict him in real time. You know, it's like all of a sudden he's like, oh, I'm sorry, Erica. You know, he's like, oh, Charlie's mad. Well, maybe they can talk to me. Maybe they can talk. Even though he said it, it's almost like right in that instant. Cause it was so off the cuff that I thought, wow, like, in real time, here's Holy Spirit saying, hey, Don, I don't know if that's the right thing to say. You know, maybe you should also forgive. Well, Erica could talk to me about it.
- [52:06]
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Lance Wallnau
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Lance Wallnau
Where do you see the business actually heading?
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Lance Wallnau
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Erica Kirk
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