FIREWALL WITH LANCE WALLNAU – September 7, 2025
Podcast: Real America’s Voice | Host: iHeartPodcasts
Episode Overview
This episode of Firewall with Lance Wallnau dives deep into trending political misinformation, global alliances shaping up against the US, the evolving makeup of the MAGA base, contentious debates over COVID vaccines, and the pivotal role of support for Israel in right-wing politics. Lance Wallnau brings his candid style to analyze the week's viral news, notably the trending (and false) rumors about Donald Trump's death, then pivots to international power shifts, the significance of recent voter registration data, and the internal fractures within the right due to divergent stances on Israel.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Social Media Misinformation and Viral "Trump Is Dead" Rumor
- Lance shares his personal anxiety from a late-night visit to X (formerly Twitter), where "Trump is dead" was trending despite no news outlets confirming it.
- "All the headlines there are going to Trump death, Trump, you know what happened to Trump? And I thought, my God. Then I right away go to the other news sources, there's nothing." (Lance, 01:08)
- Fake news’ emotional impact: Lance articulates how repeated exposure to false, agenda-driven content causes real anxiety and confusion.
- "It accomplishes demonic purpose of creating an anxiety rush in me like Trump is dead." (04:13)
2. Conspiracy Theories on Both Sides
- Discussion of Biden rumors: Lance critiques his own movement’s susceptibility to conspiracy theories — including Biden "body doubles" and outlandish rumors about the White House.
- "My audience... We thought Biden was a body double. I had people... telling me... a lizard person has taken Biden’s body over." (05:04)
- Self-awareness & satire: The hosts mock how, regardless of politics, people on all sides invent narratives when faced with uncertainty.
3. Global Alliances: BRICS, Modi, Xi, and Putin
- Focus on India’s growing alignment with Russia and China:
- Trump’s social media post on trade imbalances with India is dissected.
- China/India/Russia economic axis: Lance warns of geopolitical realignments that could severely threaten the US dollar’s primacy.
- "China and India, the future, what are they?... If they ever decide that they're all closing ranks against a weak and vulnerable American dollar... that's the day all the wind goes out of that, that beautiful rising, you know, thing called making America great." (07:47)
- Religious angle: Wallnau ties America’s foreign policy and protection to its relationship with Israel, warning of spiritual consequence if the US turns its back on the Jewish state.
4. The COVID Vaccine Debate and Trump's Dilemma
- Bobby Kennedy Jr. and Vaccine Skepticism: Clips and stats presented from RFK Jr. highlight massive vaccine skepticism — citing data that 25% of Americans believe someone they know died due to the vaccine.
- "If you look at the Pfizer vaccine, there were 22,000 people in the placebo group... The people who got the vaccine had a 23% higher death rate from all causes." (20:10)
- Lance expresses empathy for Trump, who is portrayed as both proud of Operation Warp Speed and increasingly aware of skepticism in the base.
- "[Trump] is distancing himself. He's about to say, you know, if the facts are what you're saying, it's not my fault. They lied to me. They gave me bad data." (21:14)
- Collective memory and division: The episode recalls the panic, social shaming, and government mandates during COVID, referencing enduring divisions in the MAGA base over vaccine issues.
5. Political Trends: Voter Registration Shifts
- Data-driven optimism for Republicans: Panel discusses major shifts in party registration — Democrats have lost 2.1 million voters while Republicans have gained 2.4 million in tracked states.
- "All together, Democrats have lost 2.1 million voters. Republicans have gained 2.4 million. That’s a deficit... of 4.5 million voters." (30:28)
- Lance highlights that moderate Democrats are crossing over in key swing states, using CNN data as confirmation (36:02).
- Warning against complacency: Despite strong indicators, Lance soberly reminds listeners that American politics is volatile and urges continued activism — especially approaching the next midterms.
6. Fragmentation Within MAGA: The Israel Question
- Breakdown of the MAGA coalition: Wallnau maps out four main camps within the movement:
- Libertarians: (e.g., Tucker Carlson, RFK Jr., Elon Musk, Rand Paul)
- Economic Populists: (e.g., Steve Bannon)
- Social Conservatives: (evangelicals, Charlie Kirk, Paula White)
- Establishment Republicans: (e.g., Lindsey Graham, Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz)
- Internal division: The sharpest split is over attitudes toward Israel.
- "The only thing that we really could go to war over in our own party is the religious issue... specifically the Jewish state and God's plans for Israel." (45:00)
- Marjorie Taylor Greene cited as a test case — straddling multiple subsections but problematic for her anti-Israel stance.
- Biggest threat: Lance warns that emerging younger Republican leaders (J.D. Vance, Don Jr., Elon Musk, etc.) may lack the theological or ideological commitment to Israel and could "make a big mistake."
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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On social media-induced anxiety & fake news:
"It accomplishes demonic purpose of creating an anxiety rush in me like Trump is dead."
— Lance Wallnau (04:13) -
On Trump's response to death rumor:
"No, I was very active actually over the weekend. I didn't hear that one. That's pretty serious. Well, it's fake news. You know, it's just so — it's so fake. That's why the media has so little credibility."
— Donald Trump (02:56) -
On movement conspiracies:
"Are they serious? A lizard person? What in the world are we talking about?"
— Lance Wallnau (05:02) -
On global realignment and the threat to US dominance:
"If they ever decide that they're all closing ranks against a weak and vulnerable American dollar... that's the day all the wind goes out..."
— Lance Wallnau (07:47) -
On the vaccine debate and splitting the base:
"Trump never hears boos from the MAGA base. Boo. And he said, I understand that there's differences of opinion on this."
— Lance Wallnau (21:14) -
On party realignment:
"The Democrat Party is disillusioned with the Democrat Party. And that is not that they're crazy about Trump. This was the beauty of the four years of him in the wilderness..."
— Lance Wallnau (37:49) -
On internal MAGA schisms, especially about Israel:
"If they don't get that right, my fear is J.D. Vance and... Elon, Tucker, Don Jr.... will make a big mistake regarding Israel if they don't have a gestalt experience and realize spiritually... it's a revelation..."
— Lance Wallnau (55:22)
Noteworthy Timestamps
| Time | Segment / Quote / Topic | |----------|-----------------------------------------------------------------| | 01:08 | Lance’s anxiety over "Trump is dead" trend on X | | 02:56 | Trump responds to rumors of his demise | | 05:02 | Discussion of MAGA’s own conspiracy theories | | 07:47 | Analysis of India-China-Russia alliance: threat to the US dollar| | 19:50 | RFK Jr. segment: Vaccine deaths and skepticism | | 21:14 | Lance on Trump distancing from Operation Warp Speed criticism | | 26:13 | Vaccine efficacy declines discussed, "statistical tricks" | | 30:28 | Voter registration shifts, Republicans gain momentum | | 36:02 | CNN analyst confirms GOP gains in swing states | | 45:00 | Four-part blueprint of the MAGA base and the Israel "fault line"| | 55:22 | Young MAGA leaders’ ambiguous stance on Israel, warning issued |
Episode Tone & Language
Wallnau maintains an urgent, sometimes righteously indignant tone, using religious imagery ("demonic purpose," "hand of God," "antichrist spirit") and vivid analogies to illustrate political points. The conversation is fast-paced, peppered with dry humor, self-deprecation, and moments of genuine frustration.
The dynamic flows between comically exaggerated conspiracy stories, detailed strategic analysis, and his signature weaving of spiritual concerns with contemporary politics.
Summary
This episode is a tour through the labyrinth of right-wing anxieties, hopes, and self-awareness: from destabilizing viral hoaxes and conspiracies on both sides, to momentous shifts in global power and the practical challenges of keeping an ideologically diverse movement together. The audience is left with clear marching orders: stay vigilant, don't believe every trending story, and understand the stakes — both political and spiritual — of America's alliances and internal divisions.
For listeners seeking unvarnished, candid conservative commentary — with a heavy dose of geopolitical warning, theological perspective, and movement self-critique — this episode delivers a comprehensive, sometimes bracing, analysis of 2025’s most pressing flashpoints.