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Bruno. New York City markets are closed. World business somewhere in the state of Florida. How about that? Four o', clock, by the way, folks. Okay, let's just run through the numbers very quick. A muted trading session. When I say muted volumes are low. Wasn't big movement up or down. And there's a reason. Well, just remember talking about everything's triggered on oil, up or down. And the rhetoric coming out of the Middle east and our White House. So today we woke up to both the Iranians firing on an American ship. I believe it was a destroyer. I'm not really sure which one it was. And we have the, the Americans firing and I believe sinking an Iranian boat or two. And so everyone's like, oh, how's this going to play out? Well, the Iranians say they're going, they're going to fight. And Trump said, well, it was a bit of a love tap is what he literally said. Love tap. So markets don't know what's going on right now. So the bet on Friday, beginning of the summer, almost, people just said, you know, let's let this thing figure itself out first. Let's jump over to some of the other markets. Where else are we? We have gold. It was up a little bit. We have bitcoin, that was up a touch, not much. And the oil market ended almost unchanged for the day. Think about that. We have war conflict in the Middle east with a producing nation like Iraq, Iran and a producing, consuming nation like the United States. While that oil could be unchanged for a day. Never thought he'd see that. All right, folks. A groundbreaking new study shows that there is a safe and inexpensive potential cancer treatment. And it's a drug that many of us already know about, Ivermectin. This new study shows that individuals who took ivermectin, the parasite fighting medication that gained fame during the COVID pandemic along with the drug mebendazole. So saw remarkable results in their battles with cancer, Positive results in cancer. Wow. This incredibly promising results have many Americans wondering where they can obtain US made ivermectin and mebendazole. And that's where the wellness company comes in. You See and hear from doctors, the wellness Company doctors all the time on this network, on this show. And you know that their products are the gold standard for keeping you and your family safe and healthy. The wellness company is making 100% American made ivermectin plus mebendazole available to RAV viewers at an incredibly affordable price point. Say no to Big Pharma's greed and no to Big Pharma's poisons. And say yes to a company that you can trust to bring you safe, affordable and effective treatments. If you or someone you love is interested in trying Ivermectin and Mebendazole, then I urge you just go to www.TWC Health/Voice today and order. That's TWC Health/Voice, the wellness company TWC Health/IT voice, no spaces. Use that promo code voice. Save 10% as well. Alrighty. My first guest, a former, listen to this guy. A former U.S. army officer, then he became a CIA operations officer focused on foreign intelligence collection in high risk environments. He's a senior fellow at the non profit think tank center for Security Policy and the senior editor of a magazine called and magazine. And you can find that@annmagazine.substack.com he's also the author of Willful Neglect, the Dangerous Illusions of Homeland Security. Happy to have Sam Fatis back with us. Sam, we ran out of time just reading your resume. I'm kidding. But wow, what a resume and what perfect timing for this. I mentioned Trump calling it a love tap when one of our ships took a, I guess a surface air missile or I don't know where it came from, maybe it was from a boat. But he called it a love tap. Not much damage. He said we stunk them, we put them at the bottom of this trade of Hormuz. Tell us how this is playing out. Just game that out first referee that, that, just this interaction.
Sam Fatis
Yeah, well, one of the things I think is important for people to understand is that look, we're coming out on top in all of these exchanges. You know, the U.S. navy, the greatest Navy in the world. But for the guys on these ships, this is not a love tap. And you know, the Iranians are throwing a lot of ordinance at, at these ships, drones and missiles and, and boats and we're really good, but we're not invulnerable. Right. So every time this happens, there, there really is a, there is a very real danger that one of these days these guys are actually going to get through and we're gonna, we're gonna end up with a lot of guys killed and potentially with a ship sunk. But in any event, we have defeated them so far. And I understand what the President's trying to do. Look, he's, he's hoping to get this thing resolved and sign a deal and land the plane and end this conflict. So at least temporarily, he's trying to, he's trying to downplay what, what's happening, but it's still deadly serious.
Eric Bolling
So, Sam, I know in your resume a CIA's, the former CAA operations officer, focused on foreign intelligence collection in high risk environments. I think that is exactly what we're dealing with right here.
Sam Fatis
Right.
Eric Bolling
And I note that because today the CIA, maybe late yesterday or this morning, the CIA said through their, their, their belief is that the Iranians are able, will be able to last several more months of the blockade. Where do they come up with that information? And do you buy that?
Sam Fatis
Look, I, you know, one of the things I've, I've done for many years now is be very critical of CIA and, and the necessity for them to, to really up their game. But in this case, I got to say that unfortunately, I think they're, they're, they're pretty close to the mark. I mean, the Iranians are, you know, they have a completely different worldview here. These guys, they're, they are suffering what we would regard as absolutely catastrophic losses in the war, and their economy is headed for the bottom. And a lot of these, a lot of them, that they, they have a tolerance for that because they don't care in some, some sense about the impact on their people. So they got a much higher pain threshold. They are also doing a whole bunch of things. You know, they're still smuggling out oil. They're sending some oil out over land. They're doing this thing where they get their oil across the border into Iraq and they mix it with Iraqi oil and then it goes out under false documents on tankers claiming that it's all Iraqi oil. They stashed a bunch of oil abroad on tankers off the coast of Malaysia. Estimates are roughly four months worth of production that they are selling from those tankers to the Chinese. So the bottom line is, I mean, life is terrible for the people, but the regime kind of hasn't missed a paycheck yet, if you know what I mean. They're still selling stuff. And so. And can they do that indefinitely? Obviously not. But what they're betting is they can do that longer than we can stand the economic impact on our side.
Eric Bolling
Yeah, so very Important point there. So they're getting some revenue through these, these methods, which we've heard that they're offloading some oil onto some ships without, without the flag in the middle of the night called ghost ships. They transfer to another ship, they'll mix it with another. Maybe some other byproduct would make it look like a different grade of oil, and then they'll go and sell it somewhere, but reflag it out in the sea and sell it, bring it to shore somewhere. Okay, that's a lot of processing. When they get caught, they're going to get blown to smithereens, obviously. But here's the thing. We do this on Bandana a lot, you and I and Ben and Steve and some of the, some of the other folks, we do it. And I keep coming back to the fact that, yes, gasoline prices are going up. And early on I said, steve, if you want to get gas down, finish it now in the first week. And it was like everyone came at me like, oh, they want to kill us. They want to send us nukes. I was like, okay, then don't talk to me in November when we're getting smoked because the gas price. But here we've, we've already bitten off that piece of pie, right? So we, that has to be managed. But here's the thing in this time that we blockade this situation right now. Oil goes up, yes, not as much up for us as Europe, but we're strangling Iraq's ability to pay their IRGC one and frankly supply their economy. And number two, China is. They're severely slowing down. Their heat map for them is extremely dangerous levels of lack of energy. These are two big wins for us if we just hold the blockade. Where am I missing it?
Sam Fatis
No, well, I think you're right. Look, you know, as, as you know, I've, I've had reservations with, from the beginning whether we should have started this war, should. We should have prosecuted it this way. We're in it now.
Eric Bolling
Right?
Sam Fatis
Okay. But, you know, there's no rewind. But I, I think at this point, the only, the only quibble I have at this point with the, with the administration is they need to up the pain level for the Iranians. So, you know, the Chinese are shipping stuff to help the Iranians build missiles and drones, and they landed in Pakistan now and it gets trucked overland through Pakistan. So because the, because of the blockade. Okay, well, those land borders shouldn't be open and the Iranians shouldn't have an option for taking oil across the border into Iraq. And mixing it with Iraqi oil and passing it off. We ought to close those land borders too. I mean, we ought to, we ought to be methodically turning the screws on these guys every day and really ratcheting it up and not letting them have the option to drag this thing out the way they're doing.
Eric Bolling
So, Sam, this is interesting you say that because Chinese, the foreign minister, I believe today, literally said, the American people, the America is a, a giant with a limp, meaning we're depleting all our, our kinetic resources. Are we? Do you think we are?
Sam Fatis
Well, I mean, there are some real issues with our high end munitions that we were using them at such a ferocious pace in the early part of this conflict. I mean, way past the, the rate at which we can produce them. But we are now at a point where much of this fighting is being done using munitions that aren't those high end things. You know, we're so. And we are so. That's not an immediate problem. I mean, the thing is the Iran, look, the Iranians are smart and they got people in this country and they can watch the poll numbers and they look at the pressure on the president and they're basically calculating we can hold out longer than you can sustain this conflict because these external factors inside the United States and the pressure from your allies, etc. And so forth is going to force you to make concessions to us. I, I'm back to. Okay, so you, you gotta, you gotta really start throttling them. The blockade. Will the blockade of the Straits of Hormuz ultimately force them? I mean, is there an end date past which they, they can't hang on? Obviously there's an end date. The question is, I, I don't think that's like a week or two from now that unfortunately I think is ends months from now. And then it's a real question if what we're doing now can politically, economically we sustain this. I don't know. You know, as those midterms get closer, I was driving across Pennsylvania yesterday paying $5 a gallon for gas.
Eric Bolling
Yep, yep, yep. It's on its way there. I've said it all along, since day one, Sam, if you remember, people thought it was crazy for saying 450. It was 353. We started this thing at 320 and, and we're, we're 4, almost 460 already. It's $5 is written no matter what happens tomorrow. Sam, we got to go. App time. We'd love to get you back again, Sam. Senior editor of and magazine.substack.com we'll get you back again soon. Thank you, Sam. All right, Betty, can you throw up that, that full screen right there, that's the edge. We have a really cool episode this week. This week is about how new cars, automobiles are equipped now and they will get much more better with, much better with the technology. They're watching you. They're not only watching if you're staying on the lines on the road, they're watching your eye movements. How often are you blinking? How often are your hand, are they both on the wheel? Are they slipping down? There are so many sensors now in cars, but they're accumulating this information. It's not a bad idea to accumulate information for safety. That's the way they hide all this stuff under the safety, I don't know window. But it, where are they when they start selling this information and are we at risk from governments or law enforcement agencies saying I want all his information because he did something over here. I want to shoot, I want to prove he did that over there because he, he fell asleep or almost fell asleep driving. It's going to get really, really slippery slope and I'm a libertarian. I want no one to know anything. I don't want to give them or sell them the edge. All about it. QR code right there. You know how to find it. See in two and a minutes.
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Caroline Wren
And what a quarantine might really mean
Ben Bergquam
in context of the long incubation period.
Caroline Wren
And we have a question from one of our viewers. They ask, it's said that it can take eight weeks to become symptomatic. The passengers shouldn't be allowed into the public until they're completely cleared. You know, what do you, Is that a fair way to look at this? I mean, how long do you think people should be quarantined who are either on that ship or in contact with someone who was there?
Eric Bolling
Yeah, I mean, this is the big challenge with this virus, the long incubation period. And now we have people scattering really around the globe that are being properly tracked, isolated, quarantined. And again, we can look at the past literature. That study was very in depth about the prior outbreak and they did get it under control. But what they did was they quarantined and isolated people for 40 days because of the long incubation period. So unfortunately, this is a key factor in us trying to figure out how do we keep people safe, how do we prevent further spread? I mean, we're all tracking right now, is that potential secondary spread? And, and then how do we minimize those who are infected from infecting others? Well, there we are. They love it there. There. There are so many beloved buzzwords in that. All under the umbrella of. Not what they're saying. It's under the umbrella of controlling. You keep the people safe, stop the spread. Remember, three weeks to stop the spread. I got it right. Seven million people dead later. Of course, never let a good crisis go to waste is the mantra for those who seek power and control. And so why wouldn't the globalist who heads up the World Health Organization use the hantavirus to, I don't know, coax. I'm using the word coax, but what I really mean is threaten after the President removed us from the World Health Organization's heavy hand, the who, World Health Organization's chief, has some choice words meant as a negotiating tactic. And any vacuum, any space which is not covered actually gives advantage to the virus. And the best immunity we have is solidarity. So because of the event that's happening now, and you know, both Argentina and the US Are affected, I think they will reconsider their decisions because they can see how important universality is for health security. Okay, so we're supposed to reconsider paying millions upon millions, maybe billions, to an organization that unilaterally wants to tell us how to conduct ourselves in such situations after lying to us all those years? Just a reminder of this little post from the World Health organization back in 2020 about how, quote, preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human to human transmission of the COVID virus. Why do we waste our money? Well, no longer. At least not for now. Elections have consequences. Make it sense. Please make it sense. That's how usually how we start a story referring to any Democrat logic. Because most of the time with these people, there's no sense whatsoever. CNN pundit points out that despite Tennessee's redistricting, they're on the verge of electing a black woman to Congress. That point is meant to prove that the redistrict is not racist. Except there's one little problem there. That black woman is also a Republican. And that, as we know, negates everything to a leftist woman.
Ben Bergquam
Now, who is likely going to win the 9th district in Tennessee is a black Republican. Women. As a result of this redistricting effort,
Caroline Wren
it's likely going to be a black
Ben Bergquam
Republican woman who beats that old white man.
Bo Davidson
Could I make this point?
Caroline Wren
It actually is. We're going to take a quick break and then Tesla and Congressman, I'm going to have you both respond. We'll be right back.
Eric Bolling
Okay, see what that is right there? That's a host knowing that she's got. She's been cornered. Yes, it's very racist for what you just said, lady. Because, yeah, it's supposed to be better for black people if they get more representation in Congress, right? Oh, wait, it's a Republican, so it's not so good anymore. And rather than having that discussion, let it play out to show. Really? To show their backsides, because their backsides are showing. She went to break. I bet you they had four or five more minutes. How convenient. Lady, I think that was that Abby. Lady, this is it. This is what Democrats have resorted to. The dangerous rhetoric given the given birth to by the father of Democrat Racial Division 1, Barack Hussein Obama, that Republicans want to stifle the black and brown vote, that they want to stop people from voting altogether, that Jim Crow is back. They cheat, they squirm and they steal for power. And then they incite violence against the right by spreading the these lies. It's shameful. They should be ashamed, especially election denier. Oh, Stacey Abrams. It's hitting black people upside the head, is hitting brown people upside the head in their communities. So what, what are we talking about here? And I love what you just said. I mean, you have this, this legislator saying, well, this is a conservative state, right? We should only have conservatives. Then why the hell y' all out here? B word inserted about California and New York and other liberal states, other blue states. There are no longer blue states and red states.
Caroline Wren
There are authoritarian states and democracy states. There are states that do not believe in the right of the people to
Spencer Pratt
have a say, who want to aggregate
Eric Bolling
power and foment corruption.
Ben Bergquam
And there are states that want to
Spencer Pratt
guarantee that in this country we have
Caroline Wren
free and fair elections.
Eric Bolling
I almost didn't see that. That was Michael Steele. Remember Michael Steele? He was a Republican. Not only a Republican. I'm pretty sure he was chairman of the RNC at one point. Now he's an MSNBC leftist liberal. And did you hear how he's talking? He had just the weirdest slang on when he started talking. He doesn't talk that way. I know him very well. He doesn't talk that way. I'm pretty sure it was my Ben. That was Michael Steele, wasn't it?
Bo Davidson
I'm pretty certain.
Eric Bolling
Yeah, I believe so. All right, folks, serious question. Does AOC know that we know that she doesn't know what the hell she's talking about? Next serious question. Are there actually people out there who think that AOC knows what the hell she's talking about? I don't think so. I don't believe it. But it's also unbelievable is the conviction with which AOC spouts her nonsense in her message to Elon Musk, with whom AOC is clearly. Maybe she's in love with him. Obsessed.
Ben Bergquam
There's a certain level of wealth and accumulation that is unearned, right? You can't earn a billion dollars. That's right. You just can't earn that. That's exactly correct. You can. You can get market power. You can break rules. You can do all sorts of things. You can abuse labor laws. You can pay people less than what they're worth. But you can't earn that, right? And so you have to create a myth that since you didn't earn that, you have to create a myth of earning it.
Eric Bolling
You know, aoc at this. Just get a room. I'm sure Elon would be up for. He likes to. He loves to procreate. He blatantly says he's. I think he has 10 different baby mamas and he would do 20. If you wanted to give him a call, give him a call. We'll get his number to you. We'll see. All right, we'll be back. Two and a half minutes. Well, after Mayor Karen Bass's failure, after failure in particular, her failing leadership leading into, during, and after those catastrophic wildfires in LA in January of 2025, LA, Los Angeles is a struggling city with bad leadership. Struggling in a state with awful leadership. Just to give a sense of what the race for Los Angeles mayor is all about, listen to this. Former reality TV star Spencer Pratt lost his home in those wildfires last year. He was disgusted with Karen Bass and Gavin Newsom, as many of us and them were. While Spencer threw his hat into the mayoral ring. Guess what? He's doing quite well. Here's part of his latest political ad, which is incredible.
Caroline Wren
Please, I'm begging you.
Ben Bergquam
There's homeless drug addicts in front of the schools. My children aren't safe.
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Eric Bolling
I could get you a free.
Caroline Wren
Let's move the drug addicts closer.
Ben Bergquam
Bass already solved crime.
Caroline Wren
I endorse her.
Eric Bolling
Next. Please, I just want to rebuild my home. It's been over a year. Mom, look,
Caroline Wren
This is a machine.
Spencer Pratt
If we want to burn this town
Eric Bolling
to the ground, we'll throw that. I feel so close. You can do it, Spencer. Now. Well, keep your eye on that guy. Yep, that was Marco Rubio as a dj. All right. After debate on Wednesday night, among the candidates for Los Angeles mayor, it's clear that Spencer Pratt the one to watch. It's also clear where these candidates stand when you ask them. One of the most important questions of our lifetime. Americans have. Have made clear. Made clear that they want to preserve our elections. A majority of Americans, sometimes 80%, would say they want voter ID. And yet the reality of what Democrats want comes through. This is a yes or no question, an answer. So there's an L. A council member, he wants voters to decide. He is saying that non citizens, should
Spencer Pratt
they be allowed to vote in local elections.
Eric Bolling
Is this a yes or no, Mr. Pratt?
Spencer Pratt
No.
Eric Bolling
Mayor Bass.
Spencer Pratt
It depends. It's not a yes or no.
Eric Bolling
Depends on what?
Spencer Pratt
Well, first of all, when you say non citizens, it doesn't mean they're here illegal. It doesn't mean they're undocumented. They could have green cards, they could be here. Perfectly legal. And there's a lot of states and cities that do that on very, very local elections. We have to see what the councilman is proposing.
Eric Bolling
Council member Bremen.
Caroline Wren
Yeah, I would say again, it does depend. In other places, school boards have non citizens. Non citizens.
Eric Bolling
Mr. Fred, I have a question for you. They just want. They don't want voter IDS because they know that's the only way, the best way they can cheat. All you need to know right there. All right. Spencer Pratt also brought an unusual reality when debating the issue of homelessness in Los Angeles. The usual suspects offer the usual useless ways of dealing with a constant and growing problem. Spencer ain't having it.
Spencer Pratt
Say councilwoman Robin acts like she doesn't have any authority with this homelessness. She was the third most powerful person in city council. She runs the homeless housing thing. She acts like this is just me or Bass. First off, inside safe. I like to say inside safe makes all of us outside unsafe. The reality is no matter how many beds you give these people, they are on super meth, they are on fentanyl. The DEA statistics says 93% of this is a drug addiction problem. Nithya, Councilwoman Robins plan for treatment first. I will go below the harbor freeway tomorrow with her and we can find some of these people she's going to offer treatment for. She's going to get stabbed in the neck. These people do not want a bed. They want fentanyl or super meth. These ideas cost us over $400 million to house for 70. What is it, 3,000 people for 400 million. This is absolute failure for both of them. They're a team.
Eric Bolling
Spencer Pratt certainly doesn't hold anything back when talking about the state of the downtown Los Angeles city. That downtown part, remember, let's not forget Gavin Newsom, right, When he was mayor of in San Francisco, said he would, if he were elected governor, he was running for governor, he would end homelessness. This was about 20 years ago, in like five years. And it's got nothing but worse and worse and worse. Let's listen to a little more.
Spencer Pratt
Downtown is so unsafe now that they have to serve the food. All the employees have to eat inside. They. They can't risk going out. That's why all these beautiful restaurants are closing, because it's so unsafe. So before we require city workers to go back into any buildings. We need to enforce the laws on the street. Councilwoman Rahman is talking about safety. Yet when animal rescue activist Rebecca Corey came in and said the dogs are being tortured and abused on the streets of Dunham, she walked out of the hearing. She doesn't care about safety. She doesn't care about anything she's talking about. At least Mayor Bass pretends to care.
Eric Bolling
These Democrats rarely ever get shown up like this on a net. He brings receipts, folks. He brings receipts. He had the stats. He was. There was a great debate. I can't wait to see more and more of these debates. Moving back to the California governor's race where one of the frontrunners is this lady Racha.
Spencer Pratt
I'm Katie Porter and I'm not like
Caroline Wren
most people who run for governor.
Spencer Pratt
I actually get what you're going through. A single mom of three kids, I know what it's like to push the shopping cart. My minivan and has almost 200,000 miles. I have a grown kid who may soon be living on my couch. To give Californians what they need. It's going to take standing up to Donald Trump.
Eric Bolling
Yeah. Katie Porter. Katie Porter is the one who got caught yelling at her husband because he was making too much noise on the corner over there. I mean, she's been caught yelling at her staff for not prepping her enough for. For a sit down interview. She also tried to get up and walk away from an interview because the question was too hard. Actually, she did. She stopped it down. She couldn't answer the question. She got up and walked off the set. It's incredible what these people have done. These people have made it clear over and over again. They're still into all the woke things and that's the very top of the priority list for them. Watch them use their closing statements to fight for, of all things, men, biological dudes playing in women's sports. Under the California education code, you perform in an athletic event, K through 12, based on your identification by gender. Would you change that law to match the IOC that you identify based on your or your. Your. Your birth gender? Yes or no? Very quickly, we have 30 seconds left. Mr. Mahan.
Sam Fatis
Sorry. Change which law?
Eric Bolling
State law. The current law says you'd identify and that's how you participate. Yeah, but at higher levels I would
Sam Fatis
let the leagues decide.
Eric Bolling
Okay. Mr. Becerra, enforce the law. Okay. Mr. Steyer allows trans athletes to participate. Mr. Hilton, I have a wristband that says save girls sports. Katie Porter.
Sam Fatis
Yes.
Eric Bolling
Enforce the existing law.
Caroline Wren
That wraps it up for us.
Eric Bolling
The Way I see it, the only one was, was Steve Hilton, who said he will, he will save girls, sports from biological dudes who think it's a better idea, I guess, to put have dudes take out these women's sports, win all the trophies. All right, real quick, the Edge. Take a look. We told you about again, that those cars, Those cars are real. They're, they're filming. They're, they have the, your pulse in the, on the steering wheel. They're checking out all your body functions. And they're, they have this data. This is really, really, really important data. Don't let them have it. We have to stand up for this stuff. I don't know how we do it. We have to get Congress involved in some way again. Liberty Libertarian Party is all about keeping government out of our personal lives. This is the way to do it. Watch the Edge. I appreciate that. All right, folks, before we go, do we have a little promo for these guys to check some cool stuff that's happening right here at Real America's Voice and Music. Sorry, you're asking me. Roll the promo.
Bo Davidson
Hey there, everyone. Bo Davidson here. I have a great Mother's Day special in store for you this Sunday, May 10, featuring interviews with congresswoman and Anna Paulina Luna, Sam Sorbo, and the matriarch of Palm Beach, Internet sensation Sue Bell. I also composed a song specifically for this special called She's My Mother. And you can give mom a great gift by downloading the song from itunes and adding it to a photo album montage of you and your mom. It will be a unique, personalized gift that she will love for years to come. So make sure to tune in this Sunday, May 10th to see my Mother's Day special, the American Matriarch, right here on Real America's Voice. And give a musical gift to mom that she will always treasure. Happy Mother's Day. She's my mother.
Eric Bolling
Well, we've been here. The Virginia Supreme Court has just struck down the new Jerry Mandered map, and four seats have come back into play for the gop. My next guest says this ruling, along with the Tennessee map passing last night, gives Republicans 212 safe seats. Here to give us details on how we get that majority back to 218. Partner at Tactic Global. A good friend of mine for a long time haven't had her on, so we've kind of grown apart. We've gotten back together. Caroline, I was listening to you on Band in this morning. I was coming up behind you, and all of a sudden you were laying down Some amazing stuff. This is super, super important. So 218, you mentioned Virginia brings back four into play. They're not locked in yet. Let's start with that. What's the process to get those four seats maybe to the Republican side?
Caroline Wren
Sure. Well, they're already existing Republican seats that the Democrats had unconstitutionally. Now that's been gerrymandered to remove those districts. And so now, you know, a couple of them, some people consider toss up races. They're, they're still a little bit competitive, but it is not. They had redrawn this Virginia map. Absolutely absurd, eliminating those four GOP seats. And that was the big kind of lobster claw pictures that you would see of the way they did it. So the Supreme Court in Virginia today ruled that the way they did that referendum and that map is now unconstitutional, reverting back to the existing one. So they a lot of people in these predictive maps like Cook Report and others had gone ahead and moved those four seats over to the Democrat column. So they're now back in the Republican column, putting us right sitting at 212. Safe or lean, our Republican seats. And again, that magic number is 218. So we're trying to get six more.
Eric Bolling
Right? Right. And so let's go through a few of them that we've been mentioning. We can talk about Indiana after this because my mind's still blown on that. Maybe even Ohio. Let's talk about Texas. You have counted already, right? Do you have Florida counted? I believe Florida.
Caroline Wren
I've counted. Florida is going through a legal challenge, but I think the legal challenge will be fine. Governor DeSantis handled that beautifully and I think that they will move quickly there on that legal challenge. So I have those four counted with us.
Eric Bolling
Okay, good. So now we're still looking for six. Tell us about Ohio. What's happening? Ohio, Tennessee, and then we'll get to Louisiana because Jeff Philandre is a good friend of ours, mine as well. There's a 1 versus 2 in Louisiana, but it's not as simple as it sounds. So let's go, let's do Ohio first.
Caroline Wren
Ohio redistrict actually last year. Now I thought their map did not go far enough. And so some people actually claim that is a. I think we'll pick up two seats out of the redistricting that's already happened in Ohio. And other people claim we'll only pick up one. And so we are going to see what's going to happen. But that one we can say like they, they've already done what they can do. So there's not going to be any change or movement in the Ohio maps that we're at right now, at least ahead of the 26 or 2026 election.
Eric Bolling
Now, Louisiana, one or two. Jeff Landry is there in what I heard you say was Jeff was pulling for one, not two. And I'm scratching my head. Pro maga, pro Trump, super strong conservative. Why? Why one, not two?
Caroline Wren
Well, Jeff Landry deserves tremendous credit for being prepared to move extremely quickly. The Democrat judges on the Supreme Court, namely Democrats Ketanji, Brown, Jackson, they delayed this ruling for seven months, knowing every day that they waited to announce. Basically, they delayed it by delaying their dissent, which ends up their dissent was about 60 pages. A normal dissent is like 20 pages. They did that intentionally, knowing that every day that went by was a day that the filing deadlines would pass or a day that, you know, primary voting will have started and you couldn't. So with Louisiana, I give Landry credit because immediately when this came out, and you know, the Supreme Court did say, you're using an unconstitutional map. You can't. But their primary had technically started their mail, like mail out, votes are gone out. Landry left into action and so called a special session, redrawing the maps right now and then also delaying their primary. But what is confusing to me is that they could. I think there's absolutely ample reason to draw out both of those Democrat districts. They're absurd districts. If you pull up the map of what the. The one in the middle of the state looks like, it's ridiculous now. I don't know. You know, Landry, to me, I hesitate to criticize him too much because he did such a good job with this. He was also AG when this case started. I mean, there's a million things that we could say great about Landry. So if he goes for only one instead of two of those seats, I have to think there's a reason why, like Landry, as you said, is very MAGA and great. But to me, I'm like, now is a maximum pressure time. Like if we can get to go for two, but if Landry tells us, look, I can only go get one, and it has to do with legal reasons, then I'm going to respect that with Landry because he is a. A true fighter.
Eric Bolling
Got it. One. Another one that scratches my head right here is South Carolina. I lived in that state for about three years. I found it of the most red states I've ever lived in. What is their problem? What's going on in South Carolina?
Caroline Wren
You know, with These state legislators, a lot of these are just like very old guard people, especially in the South. A lot of them have been in office for like 20 years, 30 years, they were Democrats. A lot of these states, Alabama, Mississippi, South Carolina, I went to school in Alabama. When I was there, it was actually the Democrats had a majority in the House and Senate even though it was like the reddest state ever. It's just, it's the way that the south has been and that's the same with South Carolina. There's. They need the state senators right now. Many of them been there for a long time. A lot were Democrats. Now Republicans, even though they're basically still Democrats, they're very wary of this. They also, they don't hear, they don't watch War Room. They don't, they're not on X. Like, they don't hear the outrage of the people. They don't care about national politics. They care about their little district in Rock Hill or wherever. So we've had to do a tremendous pressure campaign on this, which is very frustrating and we've hit a lot of headwinds for people, but we have, we've really pushed through. Today was a big day. The, at first, the speaker of the House in South Carolina didn't even want to bring it up. He has since moved. They had hearings on it this morning. They passed it out of committee. And so next up, we're, it's going to go over to the state Senate. We've been working very hard on these state senators to get them on board. We're expecting a vote on Tuesday to 1. They have to delay their primary. So you know, that can be. They have a governor's race, they have a Senate race. You've got the congressional races, you've got attorney general races. So the whole. They're looking to delay their primary till August 11. Then from there you have to redraw the map. And they put out what I think is a very, very strong map. And so how many you pick up? There's only one seat to pick up. It's Jim Kleinberg's district.
Eric Bolling
This is amazing. This is. Folks, you understand how, how deep, nitty gritty this is, how important this is, all this work that Caroline and her group is doing just to pick up one seat. Because every seat matters, especially what's going on. Honestly, Carolyn, correct me if I'm wrong, but these seats, these votes are going to be hard to come by given what's going on with the price of gasoline. I don't point fingers right now, but the high price of gasoline going into a midterm election, very, very tough, especially when you have a Republican president. Historically, I think 18 out of 20 midterm elections have lost seats to the opposite party in power. This is how important one seat is. Go ahead.
Caroline Wren
I totally agree with you. That's why I'm fighting for every single seat. Because I do not want to wake up in November and have Hakeem Jeffries as Speaker. Because. And we have a one seat minority causing that. And it was that we didn't fight to the death in South Carolina or Alabama or Louisiana. And it's not even that. The Supreme Court handed us this great gift. They handed us back. They righted something that had been wrong for 60 years. These districts never should have existed. It was wrong then, it is wrong now. And I think it is ridiculous to just punt until 2028. It's like, no, I want the Republican majority. Donald Trump is in the White House. I worked extremely hard as long as millions of others around this country to get him back into office after they took the election from him in 2020. And he needs a Republican majority in the House and Senate to finish his America first agenda. And by God, I'm gonna do everything in my power to make sure he has that majority. And that means fighting for every one of these seats that we can pick up right now that become safe Republican seats that the Supreme Court has told us, and not only told us, they've demanded that we enact.
Eric Bolling
Very quickly. By the way, you want that pit bull right there on your side. We're lucky to have you. Very quickly, Indiana, just tell us history they screwed up. Can it be revoted upon? Can you bring it back up or is that ship sailed?
Caroline Wren
Oh, no, it'll definitely be revoted upon. So they will, they will be. I mean, the courts will force them to, by the way. And they will revote this though. And then 2028, now there's nothing to do. There's no remedy between now and the 26 election. But what Indiana did is unforgivable. And that is why the voters voted those people out. And they deserved every one of them lose their races again. Indiana has a lot of. You had Mike Pence and his operation working against the president, but then you had some people really step up. I was very proud. Jim Banks played an instrumental role in taking the charge to kind of go after those senators. You had President Trump team run a great operation there. And you also had Club for Growth. You had a lot of people come and work together. Turning Point usa. I was glad to see that because it came at the right moment. It showed, hey, if you don't respect the will of your voters, then you're going to lose your primary. And that sure lit a fire under states like Tennessee and Mississippi and Alabama and South Carolina that were looking at that moment to do redistricting.
Eric Bolling
All right, real quick question. So I know you're part of many other people. You're probably the biggest player in this. Give me just a sense, a single seat to turn from blue to red through redistricting, through all your efforts. How much money does that cost? I know it's different in every state, but if you were going to put a number on it, what would it be?
Caroline Wren
Well, so there's a group called the National Republican Redistricting Trust that has been laying this groundwork, a guy, Adam Kincaid, for years, and it was a slog for him to fundraise. But what takes us is, takes millions in legal challenges. I mean, he has been working and looking at all these maps to be ready for this precise moment. And so, so you are talking about a lot of money that had to be raised to go into setting these legal cases that take years to come up to this moment. So I actually will give a lot of the credit to him. And then also to, you know, I was very against Ronna McDaniel when she was chair. I felt like she didn't spend enough money on these type of long term fights that needed to happen in our courts. And so we've had now Joe Grutters before that, Michael Watley come in. I feel like they have corrected that wrong of the past RNC and have had started to actually spend money on lawsuits and understand the value of doing these things. And we are seeing those play out now in real time.
Eric Bolling
All right, real quick, under or over? I'll do it this way. Under or over? If you took all these redistricting things you're doing for just 20, 26 alone, mash them all together, divide them by the seats that you may be able to pick up. Hopefully we'll pick up. If I said 25 million per seat, would that be low or high? Would you bet the over or the under on that?
Caroline Wren
No number per seat? I don't, I think, I think that would be a little bit high. But I don't know. These, the lawsuits are tremendously expensive also. I mean, the Democrats just spent $65 million on that Virginia referendum. So that was four seats. So you divide that up, your math's not really that far off.
Eric Bolling
Right. Just Just. Just the one side. Yeah. Yeah, Just the one side.
Caroline Wren
Yeah. And by spending, you know. Well, I guess I'm saying this because the lawsuits that we were doing probably didn't cast near that much. But then when you have a really competitive congressional race, those can be 20, 30 million dollars. And so now, like, these are going into a safe R column. That means the National Republican Congressional Committee does not have to spend money there and instead they can go spend money on behalf of Juan Siskamani in Arizona, who's in a D +4 district, but he's an excellent member. And so he's been able to win that district even though it's a majority Democrat district. Those are the seats that we need to be defending and fighting for, not what are completely safe Republican areas in Mississippi, Alabama. Why we waste one penny and Mississippi, Alabama, South Carolina is beyond me, but it has to do with artificially made maps that were forced upon us decades ago by the Supreme Court. That's been so in the long term, it's going to save us hundreds of millions of dollars.
Eric Bolling
I hate to do this. This is a great. I would love to bring you back next week. Let's talk again very soon offline. Thank you very much for your time. Caroline Wren Tactic Global. We ran up against a heartbreak. All right, guys, listen, two and a half minutes. We'll be right back. In your movie, I'm always the villain. All right, we love hearing your voicemail, so let's get to them on a Friday afternoon. Benny, what do you got, brother?
Bo Davidson
We have a viewer from Missouri who has some comments about the famous leering center.
David from Missouri
Yeah, Eric, this is David from Missouri. Watch your show. Enjoy it a lot. I don't expect you to put this on the air, but I did want to ask and tell you that everybody talking about the leering centers that they've been putting up and calling it being misspelled and everything, I did a little digging on that. I don't believe that they're misspelling it at all. That was a word back in ancient, ancient times that, that they used leering. It's another word for learning and teaching. So I haven't heard one person ever bring that up in discussion about not being misspelled. Everybody thinks that they don't know what they're talking about. But I'll tell you what, leering is a word and I believe that's why they're using it, is because it's been around for hundreds of years. So, anyway, glad to watch your show. Have a good one.
Eric Bolling
Well, David, great Question. Thank you for for calling that in. So hey Ben, we have the picture of that actual real sign in Minneapolis and if you look in it's spelled spelled leering L, E A R I N G. They forgot the N. Elliot Learning Center. But here's the issue David. Here's the two issues. Leering was an interchangeable word with learning from eight. I'm sorry from 1480 to 1527. That was 500 years ago number one they stopped using it 1527 and I'll give you that then maybe it was could have been lost in the translation. However when asked about that management said they blamed it on a faulty printer. They didn't say it was an inner they didn't even know is interchangeable. You knew because you looked it up. They didn't know they had the wrong reason when they told Nick Shirley is the one who discovered that. So love the question but I'm not going to give them that kind of credit because there's no credit due to those people who stole money from the American people. Ben, you got another one real quick. Yep, I'll play it right now.
David from Missouri
Watching your your show polling and Bannon but this oil and straight amuse but you know what we got all of our gas and oil here. I paid for 20 gall $92. Yeah yeah right.
Eric Bolling
All right well you pay 450 I I got thank you for watching by the way. Thank you for the question. You're going to pay more sir I hate to tell you even if the straight of Hormuz opens up tomorrow morning and Traffic returns to 100 vessels a day which it won't there was seven yesterday or four today. Even at war you were we're headed towards a almost a five dollar gallon gas no matter what and if you listen to Caroline Ren it's going to be an issue in midterms for that's why these redistricting maps matter quite a bit. That's all your time for love to get more of you just keep sending me in. We'll get to them. We get to them as we can. Warm's coming up next. Have a great weekend and I'll see you. I think I'm supposed to be on war room this weekend but I'll see you Monday morning right here Monday afternoon, 4:00 Eastern.
Bo Davidson
Hey there everyone. Bo Davidson here. I have a great Mother's Day special in store for you this Sunday, May 10th. Featuring interviews with Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna, Sam Sorbo and the matriarch of Palm Beach, Internet sensation Sue Bell. I also composed a song specifically for this special called She's My Mother. And you can give Mom a great gift by downloading the song from itunes and adding it to a photo album montage of you and your mom. It will be a unique, personalized gift that she will love for years to come. So make sure to tune in this Sunday, May 10th, to see my Mother's Day special, the American Matriarch, right here on Real America's Voice and give a musical gift to mom that she will always treasure. Happy Mother's Day. She's my.
Aired: May 8, 2026
Host: Eric Bolling
Primary Guest: Sam Faddis (ex-Army officer, former CIA operations officer, Center for Security Policy Senior Fellow)
Key Segments: Iran Crisis, U.S. Oil Markets, Redistricting and Election Preview, California and LA Politics, Viewer Mail
This episode goes in-depth on the latest escalations in the Middle East, particularly U.S.-Iran naval confrontations, and features expert geopolitical analysis from former CIA operations officer Sam Faddis. Host Eric Bolling explores oil market implications, the broader political and economic stakes, and transitions into redistricting and U.S. political developments with guest Caroline Wren. The episode also features segments critiquing Democratic leaders, law enforcement, and “woke” policies in California, along with unscripted commentary and audience interaction.
[06:40] Bolling opens the main segment on recent naval incidents:
[06:40] Sam Faddis’ Assessment:
[08:00] CIA estimates and oil smuggling:
Memorable exchange:
[11:31] Bolling posits that keeping up the blockade is two-fold:
[11:42] Faddis’ critique:
[12:52] On U.S. Munitions:
[38:13] Caroline Wren (Tactic Global) joins:
[40:45] Key states:
Memorable Wren quote:
[28:00 – 36:13] Bolling moves to California state and LA politics:
Pratt: “These ideas cost us over $400 million to house for… 3,000 people for $400 million. This is absolute failure for both of them. They’re a team.” [32:32]
“Inside safe makes all of us outside unsafe.” — Spencer Pratt [32:19]
Bolling criticizes Democrat leaders for hypocrisy on race and redistricting (“It’s supposed to be better for black people if they get more representation in Congress, right? Oh, wait, it’s a Republican, so it’s not so good anymore.” [24:27])
[18:43]–[27:00] Bolling rants on:
“Seven million people dead later. Of course, never let a good crisis go to waste is the mantra for those who seek power and control.” [21:17]
On privacy: Rapidly increasing surveillance and monitoring in consumer cars—“Liberty Libertarian Party is all about keeping government out of our personal lives. This is the way to do it.” [36:40]
[51:07] Listener from Missouri “David” on ‘leering’ centers:
[53:12] Oil Prices:
“For the guys on these ships, this is not a love tap.”
— Sam Faddis [06:44]
“The regime kind of hasn’t missed a paycheck yet, if you know what I mean.”
— Sam Faddis [08:53]
“The Iranians are smart… they’re calculating we can hold out longer than you can sustain this conflict…”
— Sam Faddis [13:15]
“That’s why I’m fighting for every single seat. Because I do not want to wake up in November and have Hakeem Jeffries as Speaker.”
— Caroline Wren [45:32]
“Inside safe makes all of us outside unsafe.”
— Spencer Pratt [32:19]
“Seven million people dead later. Of course, never let a good crisis go to waste…”
— Eric Bolling [21:17]
| Time | Segment/Event | |-----------|--------------------------------------------------------------| | 06:40 | Sam Faddis joins, Iran naval confrontation analysis | | 08:00 | Run-down of Iran’s oil smuggling, economic situation | | 11:42 | Blockade effectiveness; U.S. & Chinese strategic calculus | | 14:22 | U.S. gas prices, domestic political ramifications | | 38:13 | Caroline Wren on redistricting, House races, court decisions | | 32:19 | Spencer Pratt on LA homelessness, city politics | | 18:43 | COVID policies, critiques of WHO, “wokeness” discussion | | 51:07 | Listener mail—‘Leering’ centers, oil price commentary |
This episode blends high-stakes international analysis with frontline domestic political strategy and an irreverent blow-by-blow of U.S. cultural flashpoints. The Iran conflict, ramifications on global oil flow, and the high price of energy are tied directly to electoral strategies and the fight for control of the House. Through guest analysis (Faddis and Wren), the show provides listeners with a perspective not only on what’s happening but the “why” and “what’s next”—all seasoned with the show’s trademark combative wit.