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FTC COMMISSIONER ON FRAUD, COLLIN PLUME ECON Q&A | THE CHARLIE KIRK SHOW
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Charlie Kirk
This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human. The Charlie Kirk show starts now.
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Donald Trump
As far as the students, it's 500,000 students that come. Good students. I could tell them, I don't want any students. It's a very insulting thing to say to a country. They would then immediately go out and start building universities all over China. But if you don't have those students, good students, by the way, I frankly think that it's good that people come from other countries and they learn our culture. Many of them want to stay here. I think it's good.
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Andrew Ferguson
Medicaid program has received billions and billions of dollars from the federal taxpayers. And of course, Hawaii taxpayers have paid in a lot of money into this program over the last years as well. Guess how many convictions or indictments has Hawaii had over the last few years in its Medicaid fraud program? The answer is zero. New York has had nine indictments over the last year. Nine indictments. That's a $100 billion Medicaid program. Just in Indiana, which has about a third of the population of the state of New York, has had more than four times as many indictments over the same period. Leadership in New York are just not taking the fraud issue seriously. They're not using these anti fraud control units to actually investigate and indict the fraud.
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Vice Chair of the Anti Fraud Task Force (possibly Andrew Ferguson or J.D. Vance)
It's a shame we have to be up here at all. And with all due respect to the press, with this room full of reporters, it should not have taken a brave kid with a cell phone camera to point the American people at this issue. This is the result of decade, decades of corruption, particularly in blue states like Hawaii. Like the Vice President was just explaining California, Minnesota and New York that have taken tens of billions of dollars to pay lawyers to go after Medicaid fraud that just simply have not done it at all. That's the whole point of these programs. If we have these cooperative federalism programs, we love federalism, we want to partner with states, we love subsidiarity. But if the states are going to participate in this, they have to protect their own citizens when they get access to these dollars. And are these dollars supposed to go to fight Medicaid fraud? I want to shine a light on the real human dimension of the complete negligence and malfeasance of some of these states.
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Andrew Ferguson
But because I love this state, I can say I am heartbroken by what has happened to the fraud that's being perpetrated on the taxpayers of this state. Because outside of Minnesota and California, which are probably number one and number two, if they're the gold, gold medalist and the silver medalist. I heard somebody shout out new York. Maybe New York is the bronze medalist, but let me be honest, maybe the bronze medalist. What you have in Maine is a festering problem where people have been taken advantage of and they've been stolen from and your government hasn't done anything about it. You ask yourself, why did Maine go from a state that did not have a serious fraud problem to one where I can honestly say it's one of the worst states in the union? Number one is Janet Mills and number two is Joe Biden. It's impossible to get to the high level fraudsters unless you're sometimes willing to look at the low level fraudsters, too. I mean, how many of us have watched a good mob movie? And how do those prosecutions always start? You never start with the boss. You start with the low level guys who then give you some sense of the criminal enterprise. And then you can go after the high level fraud and the high level crime. The fact that we were turning a blind eye to fraud under a million dollars meant that we weren't even looking at the people who were sitting on top of some of these fraud rings. The million dollars of your money, and the government wasn't even paying attention to it. One of the best things that you can do when you go and arrest somebody and throw them in prison when they break the law is, yes, it's justice for that one person, but it also sends a message to all the other fraudsters that we're not going to tolerate this crap anymore. So we have got to get serious. And sir, we have, I promise you that we have.
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Charlie Kirk
President Trump's agenda is so popular.
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Vice Chair of the Anti Fraud Task Force (possibly Andrew Ferguson or J.D. Vance)
Why do Republicans need to add additional
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Charlie Kirk
seats to the map?
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Andrew Ferguson
Well, first of all, Kristen, you have to ask yourself, why have Democrats gerrymandered their states aggressively over the past 10 to 20 years? If you look, for example, at the popular vote, a lot of these states and Massachusetts, where 32% of the residents of Massachusetts voted for Republicans, zero Republican federal representatives. So we're not trying to sort of all we're doing, frankly, is trying to make the situation a little bit more fair on a national scale. The Democrats have gerrymandered their states really aggressively. We think there are opportunities to push back against that. And that's really all we're doing.
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Charlie Kirk
Every day is a battle for your mind. Raging information coming from every angle with the will to deceive. Fear not. You found the place for truth. The voice of a generation that still has the will to believe in the greatest country in the history of the world. This is the Charlie Kirk Show.
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Colin Plume
Buckle up.
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Charlie Kirk
Here we go. All right. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It's Friday, May 15th. We're here at the Y Refi Studios in Phoenix, Arizona. Got our merch. This is one of Charlie's favorite shirts, by the way. Never surrender. You can check it out. Get your own shirt there. But I want to get started right away. Here we got Andrew Ferguson. He is the FTC chairman. He's also the vice chair of the anti fraud task force that J.D. vance is chairing. He's vice chair and want to get right into it because we have limited time. So welcome to the show, Mr. Andrew Ferguson, chairman of the FTC. How are you, sir?
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Graham Allen
Doing well.
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Vice Chair of the Anti Fraud Task Force (possibly Andrew Ferguson or J.D. Vance)
Thanks for having me.
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Charlie Kirk
Well, we are so proud to have you and honored to have you because you are doing the people's work. I think when we look around the federal government, when we see what you are doing to counter fraud in states like Minneapolis and California and Maine and elsewhere, New York, it literally makes my heart happy, because this is why we elected President Trump in November of 2024, to do the people's business and to take back what is being robbed and ripped off from us, the taxpayers of this country, oftentimes by foreign people that should not be here, that are taking advantage of our generosity. Sir, the floor is yours. Tell us why you agreed to be vice chair of this task force and what you guys are accomplishing. Spike the football, sir.
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Vice Chair of the Anti Fraud Task Force (possibly Andrew Ferguson or J.D. Vance)
Well, I think generally, if the president asks you to help your country, you stand, salute, and do your job. And when he asked me to take this on, you know, I said yes. And I think this is one of the most important initiatives that President Trump has put forth in either of his terms, because this fraud is bleeding the country dry. And this isn't just a, like, financial issue. Our society, the society we inherited as part of Western civilization, is premised on neighbors being able to trust each other on basic issues, that we don't have to constantly check everything that everybody is doing, that there has to be some level of mutual trust. The West, Western civilization requires high trust societies. If elements of society are bleeding the rest of us dry, we will lose trust in each other, we will lose faith in our government, and we will lose faith in the American experiment. And so this isn't just about putting money back in the pockets of Americans from whom it was stolen, although that's important part. This is about restoring the trust that is necessary for American civilization, for Western civilization to survive at all. And that is why only President Trump could have done this. No other president has taken the civilizational mission of the United States as seriously as President Trump. And if we're going to continue carrying out that mission here and everywhere else, we have to restore trust. And so that just as much as the finances, just as much as going after the criminals, that's why this effort is so important.
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Charlie Kirk
I think that's so spot on. I think we don't get give enough credit to the fact that our civilization only exists if the people have confidence in it. Right. And that we trust that the system is being followed. I mean we've. Charlie used to talk about anarcho tyranny where the state would go after the law abiding and they would allow the chaos agents to roam free with impunity. That is finally getting flipped. And I think it's critically important. If you're going to ask somebody to pay their taxes, you better darn well believe that that money is being put to good use and that the bad guys aren't getting free rein to rip you off and, and take advantage of your generosity. So I completely, I salute your ideological framework and the premise from which you're operating. Sir, I want to ask you give us some examples because I've seen, I was looking at your X feed this morning. You've got HSI involved. I know Secretary Besant has been involved at Treasury. You guys are using the doj, there's a task force there. Explain how the whole of government approach is being utilized and why that's so critical to of success here.
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Vice Chair of the Anti Fraud Task Force (possibly Andrew Ferguson or J.D. Vance)
The only way to fix this problem is to have every element of the government with some responsibility working hand in hand with all the other parts of the government. And that's why only the Vice President could lead this task force. You need someone with the gravitas and the capability to stand above everybody else and say this is how it's going to be. Everyone needs to work together, everyone needs to share information, share resources in order to get this done. And that is why it's so important that Vice President Vance is doing this and only he could. And you really need to think about this as like a two prong approach. Prong one is bad guys go to jail and that is DOJ's job. DHS doing very important work on that front too with HSI who has remarkable investigators and lawyers at their disposal. But at the end of the day, people who steal from the citizens of the United States, especially if you are here as a guest of the American citizens citizens, you are going to get caught and your butt's going to jail. And that's DOJ's job. The second thing we got to do is we have to stop the bleeding. It's impossible to stop fraud. If your theory of fraud stopping is let the money all go out the door and then we'll go chase the bad guys. There's too many bad guys. It's too much money. And a lot of that money just vanishes. It leaves the shores of the United States. It lines the pockets of the governments of our adversaries. If we want to really stop this problem, we have to stop it in the agencies. And that means that the agencies need sophisticated, advanced, systematic fraud detection networks within their agencies that can tell when someone is probably making a fraudulent claim on a benefits program. Whether that's unemployment insurance, snap, wic, tanf, Medicaid, Medicare, doesn't matter. All of that needs to be handled within the agency because once the money goes out the door, it's very hard to get it back. And that is what the task force has been doing. We have technologists that have been going to these agencies and saying, hey, let us help you harness the power of AI, harness American innovation and technology to build systems that will keep the money from going out the door and actually protect the American taxpayer. And then for that money that does escape, we have DOJ ready to go after these people. They got a huge conviction on a Medicare fraud scheme yesterday that is amounting to almost $1 billion. DOJ is ready. The task force is in all the agenc helping them build the systems treasury where a lot of these payments happen as sophisticated systems. Treasury CIO is a former DOGE guy. He has built incredibly sophisticated systems to help the other agencies do this. We have. In the coming weeks, we'll be announcing a great incentive program for people to come forward as whistleblowers to alert the agencies when they're being ripped off by all sorts of fraudsters. This is going incredibly well. And again, at the end of the day, it's because President Trump stepped in the breach and said, this ain't happening to American citizens anymore, not on my watch. And Vice President Vance is the only guy who can bring all the agencies together and say, we have to work together. We have to solve this problem, and we have to solve it right now.
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Blake
Yeah, I. We love doing the calculation here. We just showed $6.3 billion in fraudulent payment stuff. That's what the graphic we had up. And we love the math of.
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Colin Plume
That's.
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Blake
You pay about. The average person pays about $500,000 in taxes, lifetime. So that's the, just with that, the lifetime tax amount of 12,600 people. So you know, it's small town. All their taxes for life covered just by this fraud that people are.
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Charlie Kirk
I love when you bring it back to that. And Mr. Ferguson here, chairman Ferguson, you know we talk about using the power of government. It's a constant theme that conservatives are too scared to use it. You guys just deferred 1.3 billion to, to California because they're refusing to play ball. 15 seconds. How important is that tool in your arsenal?
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Vice Chair of the Anti Fraud Task Force (possibly Andrew Ferguson or J.D. Vance)
It's critically important. And at the end of the day, what we're trying to do is save these programs. People have been paying into Medicare their entire lives. People have been paying the taxes that fund Medicaid their entire lives. Fraud is going to kill these programs because it siphons money from people who actually need it. The way we're going to save these programs is killing the fraud. That's why these tools are so important.
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Charlie Kirk
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Vice Chair of the Anti Fraud Task Force (possibly Andrew Ferguson or J.D. Vance)
Stopping the fraud is about making sure that people who really need these Resources. People have paid for them. American citizens who need these resources in hard times that generous Americans have agreed we're willing to help can actually get them. If we don't stop the fraud, these programs won't survive. President Trump is trying to save Medicaid, Medicare, and SNAP by stopping the fraud. And that's what this task force is all about.
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Charlie Kirk
We have your back, sir. Andrew Ferguson, FTC Chairman and Vice Chair of the Anti Fraud Task Force. The work to eliminate fraud, it's so critical. I'm so glad you guys are diving in with just such earnest. I think it's so important and so needed. Thank you, sir. God bless you. We have your back. All right, we gotta get to another clip. President Trump sat down with Sean Hannity last night, and it was quite the ranging interview. It was long. They talked about a lot of stuff, and I would say 99% of what they discussed I agreed with. There's one part, however, that I felt was central to some of the things that Charlie spoke about. Some of the things that Blake and I both care a lot about. That it's just a gentle, gentle correction. And I want to chalk this up to a generational divide, right? Because if you are President Trump, you grew up with the United States University system being the envy of the world. It is the gold standard. It still really is. In some ways. In some ways it's not. In some ways, it's become corrupt and bloated, which we talked about a lot on this show. But I want to talk, I want to play this clip, and I just want to offer our counterpoint here. Again, 99% of what President Trump said in that interview was spot on. No issues at all. He's on the point. He's on the game, this one. I just, again, I think it's a generational issue plays out one.
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Donald Trump
As far as the students, it's 500,000 students. They come good students. I could tell them I don't want any students is a very insulting thing to say to a country. They would then immediately go out and start building universities all over China. But if you don't have those students, good students, by the way, I frankly think that it's good that people come from other countries and they learn our culture and many of them want to stay here. I think it's good.
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Charlie Kirk
All right, Blake, your initial reaction?
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Blake
It's a few things. Honestly, the best defense of what the president is saying is we have a really bad trade deficit with China, and one of the few things we export to them is college diplomas. So if they, they send students here and we can sell them a piece of paper for tens, hundreds of thousands of dollars and, well, we're not selling them that many cars, we're not selling them that many manufactured goods. We're maybe selling them a bit of agricultural product. It's one of the few things we still export to China, so to speak.
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Charlie Kirk
But Boeing planes, that was another deal.
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Blake
But the concern is, I mean, he points out, but they'll start building universities in China. They've already done that. While we've had our universities be sinking under DEI and massive administrative bloat, China's universities are becoming the best in the world, actually. Like, look up Peking University, Tsinghua University, those are absolute world class. The best students now stay in China. We're actually not getting the best students from China anymore. But the reason China really wants their students to keep coming here, the reason they don't consider that humiliating, the reason China could easily think we want our students to stay in China as much as possible. They like sending them here because they view every young Chinese person as a de facto spy, even if they're not in the direct employ of Chinese intelligence. They can get on the staff of researchers, they can infiltrate organizations that do sensitive research, they can steal technology, they can take information and bring it back to China. Or even if it's as simple as they can fill a job that otherwise could go to an American who would learn this field, and instead it's being learned by a Chinese person who can go back to China. And America will not have a person capable of doing that. China does. And I think all of those factors make it a little worrisome, and it shows why China wants their students to keep coming here so much.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah, I think that's exactly right. So a country. This is what was going through my head the whole time, Blake, is that China, that kind of like Iran, these, they will refuse indignities. They do not want to be humiliated. So ask yourself, why are they willing to sort of tacitly admit that, oh, America's universities are better. We're sending 500,000 of our students over to America because they have an ulterior motive. The ulterior motive is to take up space from Americans, spy, steal technology, steal research, and then send it back to China. So President Trump's answer to this was actually fairly interesting. He said, well, we spy on them too. So what do you want me to do?
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Blake
They're better insults.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah. This is a massive insult to a country to say, you can't send your Students here. There was a time, and I would say the 50s, 60s, 70s, even the 80s was really big on this, maybe the 90s as well, where the idea was very optimistic in nature that we're gonna do these cultural exchanges. The students are gonna come to America, they're gonna see how amazing our culture is. They're gonna go back and they're gonna be diplomats. That's on behalf of the United States.
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Blake
Now the opposite's happening. They come to America and they think this country is messed up.
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Charlie Kirk
Well, maybe, maybe not. I think there's. There's some. That's you being a little bit. Okay, maybe.
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Blake
Maybe I'm too black.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah, yeah, that's black billing.
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Blake
They're not making China democratic.
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Charlie Kirk
Point is, when you go. When you're a young American and you want to get into the sciences, you want to get into computer technology, these types of things, robotics, and you go in and say you're a white boy from, you know, Omaha, and you walk in and it's 98% Chinese and Indian, you think, whoa, I guess I'm in the wrong place. We don't want that. We are the nation that sent men to the moon. We're the nation that created the atom bomb. We are the nation that has pioneered countless fields, computers, robotics, AI.
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Blake
It's not just that. It's that because we bring in so many students and they fill, for example, graduate student slots at the school, they're bringing down the wages that the schools pay to those. So it doesn't pay as well to go into those fields, which keeps Americans
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Charlie Kirk
from going into them out as well. It crowds them out.
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Blake
It crowds them out and it lowers the actual economic appeal of doing it. So someone who's good at math, who. Maybe we should pay them $400,000 a year to be a rocket scientist, they're going to go make $400,000 a year to be a quant on Wall Street. But a quant on Wall Street, I'll be frank, is not as valuable as a rocket scientist.
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Charlie Kirk
No, because you're pushing around papers and financial instruments. Yes, there is some value. I'm not like a punch complete black pillar on financial instruments. There can be great creativity in the financial markets. Our capital markets are the envy of the world, too. But when you actually make physical things. This is why Charlie loved Elon Musk so much. You're making physical things. You're creating and producing rockets and cars. There is incredible value to a country that can still produce and manufacture physical objects. Got to hit this clip really quick. This is about farmland and Chinese buying it up Sat 10.
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Colin Plume
I would assume I'm in Beijing if
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Donald Trump
I wanted to buy property near one of their military installations. I don't think President Xi wouldn't let you.
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Blake
I don't.
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Donald Trump
Look, it's not that I love it. You want to see farm prices drop, you want to see farmers lose a lot of money, just take that out of the market. But they've had a lot of land for a long time. Obama did nothing about it. They bought a lot of it during the Obama administration. He did nothing about it.
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Charlie Kirk
All right, so the fact that prices might fall could actually end up being an okay thing for the next generation that maybe wants to inherit the land or buy some land, become the next generation of farmers. I think you gotta let the dust settle, you gotta let the market settle where Americans are buying it up. We've talked about this with institutional buyers with first time homes. I think you gotta clear the field and let it be what it is. You cannot be allowing a foreign power that wants bad things for America to be buying up our Farmland.
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Blake
I have 10 seconds, but I would much rather have China investment in America than Chinese students in America.
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Charlie Kirk
Fair enough. Fair enough. Graham Allen joins us next. We'll be right back.
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Colin Plume
Fact first, America first.
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Charlie Kirk
Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. We're about to welcome on the one, the only Graham Allen. He's got a new book out and so much more to get to with him. But first I want to tell you about our friends over at Hillsdale College. They got a new film out that's coming out in theaters. Mark your calendars. May 31st through June 2nd. It's called Revolutionary America. How much are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness worth to you? This is a question the founders had to grapple with. And what was interesting when you think about it is that for more than 150 years, America's 13 colonies governed themselves until Britain declared they had no right to self rule. So Blake, what were the bills that really irked the colonists right before the Revolution?
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Blake
They did the Stamp act, which was a big tax. They did the Townshend Acts, which was a bunch of restrictions on commerce. They did the Intolerable.
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Charlie Kirk
That's my favorite one.
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Blake
They closed the port of Boston. They quartered troops in homes. They took over the Massachusetts government, took away that. They actually took over a lot of their. They revoked the colonial charter of Massachusetts after the Boston Tea Party and worst of all, the Quebec act, which allowed Catholics to do things in Quebec they were very upset. They complained about this in the Declaration of Independence.
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Charlie Kirk
They complain about it in the Declaration of Independence. All right, so they had to make extraordinary choices. They risked their lives, their fortunes, their sacred honor, and you could get all of this real history, some of what Blake just talked about in revolutionary America. With so much distortion of our founding story, it's so important that organizations, institutions like Hillsdale tell the real story. You can see from the trailer that's playing there in the background just how powerful visually, thematically, the scholarship that's gone into it. It's massively important. Hillsdale Edu Revolution. If you want to get your tickets for this theatrical release, May 31st through June 2nd, go to Hillsdale. Edu Revolution. Hillsdale Edu Revolution located theater near you get tickets for your friends and family. Please check it out. It's America 250. This is the right way to do it. All right, without further ado, we welcome Graham Allen to the show. It's been too long. Graham, welcome back, my friend. Good to see you.
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Graham Allen
Hey, thanks for having me, guys.
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Charlie Kirk
Well, I want to congratulate you. You have a new book out, and anybody who has never written a book doesn't understand just how excruciatingly difficult it is to write a book. And you've done so, sir. Tell us about it. And why now. What is the premise?
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Graham Allen
Yeah, so I was challenged to write a book. It's called Stand, Fight When Our Battle for the Soul of America. So I was challenged to write a book that was not just, oh, Graham's mad about something, and Graham's ranting about something. And ironically, I was challenged to be more like Charlie. And I know that sounds cliche, but. But it was. It was like, all right, everybody knows what the problems are. Everybody sees the issues. How do we actually move forward and how do we actually win? And so. And I was also challenged for what does the midterms look like with Donald Trump on his last, you know, his last term as president? What does it look like, you know, moving forward in a, you know, a post Trump type world? And then September 10th changed all of our lives, changed everybody's lives. The world stood still literally in the middle of writing this book. And it put to words this horrific thing that I saw coming. And even in the book, when people read it, I say in the beginning, a lot of this book was written before September 10th. And I chose to keep it the way that I wrote it originally because of, unfortunately and tragically, what unfolded with Charlie and the political assassination culture that we find ourselves in now and the. The character assassination culture we find ourselves in now. And there is an active effort to divide our side. There is an active effort to disenfranchise the American voter to show up in the midterms. And the whole purpose of this book is to hopefully ignite a spark back into the American people that the war for our country never ends. That's the biggest. That's the biggest lie. That's the biggest bad news, is everybody thinks that one election and then it's over and then it's done, we won, and we don't have to fight anymore. And that's actually the exact opposite. Every single election, every single midterm, every single presidential cycle, it's another battle in the war that is to preserve our American way of life here in this country. And so that's why I wrote it. That's what I was challenged to do. I feel pretty good about this one. I think people will see a different side of me coming from the admin side of this and seeing the real depths of the swamp, if you will. And I hope that it encourages a lot of people to show up in November.
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Charlie Kirk
I love that you chose to keep in the book what you wrote before 9, 10. Actually, I find myself as well, Graham, going back to that frame of mind, you know, when we were just day in, day out with Charlie and, like, going through the messaging and remembering that as sort of a North Star for how to comport ourselves and how to behave. Because some of the stuff that's happened in the wake of it, I mean, obviously you know this as well as anybody, Graham, you've been so outspoken, has been so extreme, has been so completely unthinkable before 9, 10, that I think some of the things that we knew that that can remain our North Star, the way that we did things, the way that we looked at challenges, I just think that that is a purifying thought. It is a clarifying thought, because so much has been disorienting since that. Almost going back to that time just before can be very focusing and I think healthy.
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Graham Allen
Yeah, no, I think so. And I was listening to the footage that you guys were playing of Charlie right before this. And just even what he was talking about then, how there are people trying to divide us and to get us to fight against each other, to lose focus of what the actual mission is. And the actual mission is in 2024, we had one of the greatest historical political comebacks in history. We defied all the odds, not just for President Trump's resolve, but Also for Turning Point USA and Charlie and you and Blake and everybody else and Erica and so many people played such a vital role in that. And I refuse now to let that be thrown away because we have these instant gratification societies. We have these people that take the policies that Trump is doing that are actually very good policies. We have. Trump went to China just now in a position of strength. I talked about this China, seeing them roll out the red carpet for President Trump. I thought that was amazing. He's got 50% of their oil with the Strait of Hormuz. Like, the things the President is doing is going to make America better for generations to come. But you now have these victim mentality, chaos agents that are trying to convince the American people, even though we won. Oh, we didn't really win. Like, oh, we thought that Trump was the guy, but, oh, he deceived us too. And all of this. And it's the next thing and the next victim and the next deceit and the next divide and the next chaos and the next confusion. And again, that's the purpose of this book, is to reignite in the American people who, admittedly, I know you guys feel the same way I do. I'm tired. I know you guys are tired. I can't imagine, Erica, I can't imagine the President. I can't imagine how many of the American people are tired. Maybe a little bit weary, maybe a little bit battle fatigued. But that's the whole point, is to keep pushing forward and to keep moving forward through the midterms. So these policies do have time to take effect and to educate the next group coming after us. Because we all can't fight, fight for forever. No one can fight for forever. The, the goal is to keep reigniting the torch, to hand it off to the next younger, better, smarter generations behind us again, which is why I wrote the book.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah, it's. It's so good.
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Blake
I think of some of Charlie's favorite lines that people would ask him what his favorite quote was and his lead, follow or get out of the way. Which is a very aggressive favorite quote to have. But it does tie in so much with what you're talking about, which is you are certainly not leading or following if you're just sowing discord, complaining, finding reasons to be aggrieved, ignoring successes, refusing to look for additional successes that are available. And Charlie was so good about identifying that that he would. He would tout the victories on the border, on. On trade, on whatever you want to find. And then he would also be finding New things to find victories on. He loved Salabi red state legislatures. He would love, for example, the redistricting fight going on, that he would be celebrating the states that get it done, like Tennessee. He would be nagging the states that are dragging their feet, like Mississippi right now, but in a way where it's not just they've betrayed us, this party is dead. He would be saying, call your legislators, get this done. It's that he also loved to talk about having a growth mindset and an abundance mindset, that there's always improvements out there. There's things. Don't take any defeat too personally and find new ways to move past it. Don't settle on just whining all of the time.
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Graham Allen
Yeah, I couldn't agree more. You know, I did my best. It's a very horrific version. To try to channel Charlie's insight and his leadership in this book. Again, I was challenged not just to be the.
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Charlie Kirk
The.
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Graham Allen
The angry Graham that rants and. And, you know, calls out what's wrong, but to.
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Charlie Kirk
We love that Graham, though. We love that gram. I just watch.
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Graham Allen
I know, I know, I know. But. But, you know, at some point, you have to maintain that person, but also take the wisdom that we've gained along the way and. And hopefully channel it into a way where people. My hope is that people will continue to go back to this book. That's my hope, that they find, you know, lasting impact in this. Because again, the biggest lie that people believe is that we only need to win one election and then it's over. The fight for America, the fight for our freedoms, the fight for our. For our faith, it never ends. It keeps going. And that's why I hope everybody will check out the book and they can go to grandmaland.com to get the book. You can buy it wherever you like. It's on sale everywhere. I will be doing the audio version. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing, if you like the audio versions of books. But. But I appreciate you guys so much, and. And I stand with you guys, you know, this wholeheartedly. And we literally are gonna stand, fight, win together in November. And I believe it.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah. Amen. And I love what Blake was saying. Just the. The way Charlie approached problems, political, cultural, he never threw in the towel. He didn't give in to nihilism or black pilling or doomerism. He pushed through and he found a way to be constructive no matter what was coming at him. And so we got to channel that. It was one of The Charlie's strongest lessons. Graham, stay right there. We got you. For another segment, I want to tell the audience about balance of nature. You've been told to eat your fruits and veggies forever, but nobody really explained why. And the truth is, is that whole foods, whole veggies, whole you. What they have is something called phytonutrients. They're not natural compounds your body uses to repair cells, respond to every single day, the stresses and to adjust balance of nature takes the real produce, runs it through their tailored vacuum cold process. It stabilizes those phytonutrients, nutrients their whole health system, combines fruits and veggies, fibers and spices to give you 47 whole food ingredients and phytonutrients in one simple routine. Okay, so here goes. This is the part I got got to get you. I didn't do that good job last yesterday with this. So got to go to balanceofnature.com use the promo code charlie for 10 off your order. That's balanceofnature.com use the Promo Code charlie for 10% off your order balanceofnature.com we'll be right back with Graham Allen. All right, welcome back. We are at the why Refi studios in Phoenix, Arizona. So let's talk about why Refi just a little bit. If you are an accredited investor, you can get 10.25% on your investment and that interest rate is fixed. We had Lane did a great job in studio last week. Check that out. Actually, was it on Tuesday? Gosh. The week goes. What week are we in? It's all a blur. 10.25% fixed interest rate on your investment. You can invest from one to five years and you can spread your investment over those terms to best suit your needs. When you invest with Y Refi, your interest is calculated daily. You can check it right, check it out right on your dashboard. And it's paid out monthly. Then they give you the flexibility to reinvest that interest into the investment or take it off the board as profit. They even make it super easy to donate that money to organizations like Turningpoint or your local church, whatever. They make that actually easy for you. We love these guys. They're great patriots. They do business the right way. And they're fixing a massive problem in student loans in that space the government has completely botched. Surprise, surprise. Check them out. Call 877-80-Invest, 87780-Invest or visit them online at investyrefi.com that's investyrefi.com for complete details. Make sure you Review the private placement memorandum and scan that QR code right there on your screen to view the disclosures at your leisure. Why refi investing in America's future. All right, Graham, I'm gonna take a page out of your book here, my friend. Make sure to check out his new book@gramalan.com check it out. Just announced today. Congratulations again on that. But I'm take a page out of your book.
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Colin Plume
Thank you.
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Charlie Kirk
You are a fearless voice in the space. You go straight for it. You deal directly with some of the main spreaders of disinformation and conspiracies, namely Candace Owens. Yesterday she did have an allegation. You went. I checked out your show this morning. You went straight for it. She was saying that at the White House correspondence dinner that we were, I guess, you know, complicit or coordinating with some like, amplification campaign.
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Graham Allen
The whole thing.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah, tell us about it.
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Graham Allen
Yeah. Well, the thing I went after the most is anytime Candace has any kind of evidence of any kind of. All watermarks are removed, all email names are removed. And what I love the most is of everyone who was at the White House correspondence dinner, and this is no disrespect to you or Erica Kirk in any way, but you guys were plotting and controlling the whole event, according to Candace Owens. So you've got the president there, the vice president, Secretary of state, secretary of war, the whole line of secession for the presidency. But, but it was you guys who were running and pulling the strings to, To, To. To hoax this entire thing. And, and what I love more than anything else was Candace going on this. Because this is what she does. She says something. People listen. Not very smart people listen, but people do listen. And then where's the evidence? Oh, well, the evidence. Something happened and now we don't have it. But what I'll do is I, I will. I will retype the most pertinent information. So the screenshot that she put up there about this whole conspiracy to boost Erica's, as she calls it, the I want to go home video, even in her description, she says, this is not the email. I retyped what I viewed to be the most important points of all of this. And then I commented and I said, this is the most made up thing I've ever seen in my life. And then she never provides any type of truth, any type of anything in that regard. And so I really hope the White House does respond. I would love nothing more.
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Charlie Kirk
They did, Graham, actually, so I think we missed it.
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Graham Allen
I missed it.
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Charlie Kirk
We have their response The White House military office has no knowledge of the communications alleged in this post, and they did not authorize, draft, or publish the content in question. Any attribution to them is completely false.
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Graham Allen
Completely false. Wow. Love it. It, love it, love it, love it.
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Charlie Kirk
That was from.
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Graham Allen
Here's what, here's what. What I loved is Candace will say, go ahead.
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Blake
Sorry, just even the response is someone said someone was responding to Mark and, you know, why did you spend time on this? And he says, well, it just seems so outlandish and so verifiable. I decided to just send an email and then post it on X. Not a lot of work now, I will say. I mean, maybe it's real. I don't, I think Andrew and I could both say we have have no idea what any of this is talking about.
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Charlie Kirk
The text between Blake and I yesterday were hilarious. Blake goes, have you, Is this, is this real? I was like, what if it is it? I have no idea what, like, there's all this. If I can tell you the number of times that, like, allegations have been made and I'm like, yeah, what on earth? Like, what did they come up with now? So this is like one of the reasons we don't play whack a ball with this stuff because, like, every day it's like something new that I've, that I, or the organization or Erica has been alleged of plotting. And it's so outlandish that I don't, I don't even know where to begin. But, you know, thankfully, the White House stepped in here and well, well, that
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Graham Allen
photo you just showed right there, that's what an actual inquiry and response actually looks like. Candace, by the way. So, so, so when people actually make an inquiry and people respond, that last slide you just showed, that's what it actually looks like in a real email thread or a text thread when people, so for all those that are watching of what, what actually getting evidence looks like, there it is. That, that, that, well, it doesn't look like a retyped, you know, image.
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Charlie Kirk
It's hilarious. I, I, I'm not sure on the exact timeframe, but I will tell you, I was trapped in that White House correspondent's ballroom for, I believe, I don't know, 45 minutes to an hour 15.
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Graham Allen
Before, like, I was trying to text you.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah, before I got out because they locked it all down. I couldn't even get out, like, and there was no service down there. Like, I got two calls that went through when I was down there. One was my wife 10 minutes after, which I was grateful for because I tried to call her immediately just to let her know I was okay, because I was hiding under the darn table. And with Harmeet Dylan, who got stepped on, by the way, by a Secret Service agent. They literally came by our table, stepping on the chairs because it was so packed in there. Anyways, my wife got through to me, which was like a miracle, honestly, because I kept trying to dial out, and it would just get, you know, stopped. Call failed. And then I got a call from Jack Posobec, I think, and then actually three, because then Tyler Boyer called me just to check on me. So those three calls came through. Nothing else would go through for me, so I had to get out. And then they wouldn't let you get picked up in an Uber. I had to hike seven or eight blocks out of the vicinity before I could get an Uber to pick me up. And I remember it was like. It was. It was just a wild, wild night. It was terrifying, actually. And mostly because I thought the President had been shot. So I'm hiding under.
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Blake
You knew less than any of us watching.
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Charlie Kirk
No, no, I knew nothing. Nobody in that room knew anything. All I remember seeing is, like, you know, there was reporters that were getting up on the stage, like, doing selfies, and I thought that was really inappropriate. But, like, when I was. When I was down there, I'm asking everybody that I'm huddled around the table with going, like, did they shoot the President? Was I just present at an event where the President was assassinated?
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Blake
But I just want to highlight a big. About this. This is ridiculous, because the central accusation, the reason she's running with this is the idea. Oh, the white. The White House went, and they just. The military. It's so suspicious that they would just aggressively amplify this video of Erica Kirk to get lots of engagement. Does that. Does aggressively amplifying videos of Erica, even if it was to get his maximum engagement, describe anyone over the past past eight months? Does it? I wonder.
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Graham Allen
Yeah.
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Donald Trump
Yeah.
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Graham Allen
I wonder who that could be.
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Charlie Kirk
It's final 10 seconds. Graham,
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Graham Allen
go check out the book. The whole purpose of it is to fight against what we just talked about. You can go to gramaland.com or literally anywhere you buy your books. Thank you guys for having me. Love Turning Point. Love the show.
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Charlie Kirk
God bless you, Graham.
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Graham Allen
Always got your back.
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Charlie Kirk
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Donald Trump
and we've settled a lot of different problems that other people wouldn't have been able to settle. And the relationship is a very strong one. We've really done some what wonderful things. I believe we did discuss Iran. We feel very similar in Iran. We want that to end. We don't want them to have a nuclear weapon. We want the straits open.
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Terrance Bates
Fed Chairman Kevin Warsh is President Trump's pick to be Chairman of the Federal Reserve Warsh takes over from Trump nemesis Jerome Powell, whose term ends today. Trump and Powell have been at odds over Powell's reluctance to lower interest rates. 47 has famously nicknamed the outgoing Fed chair Too Late Powell over his fiscal policy. After eight years at the helm of the central bank, Powell is stepping away from the top job with inflation above the Fed's 2% target for more than five years now. Plus the central bank's key short term interest rate rose to a two decade high during his administration. While the now former chair is stepping down, he's not stepping away from the Fed altogether. Powell says he'll continue serving on the bank's board of governors until he's confident the Fed's independence from the White House is upheld. And President Trump may be leaving China with a bit of ballroom envy taken to Truth social just hours ago. 47 writing China has a ballroom and so should the USA. It's under construction ahead of schedule and will be the finest facility of its kind anywhere in the USA. Mr. Trump says his ballroom is scheduled to open around September of 2028. Work on the $400 million addition to the White House is moving forward after a federal appeals court overruled a lower court which halted the above ground construction. That's a quick check of your head.
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Charlie Kirk
All right, welcome back. It's hour two on a Friday. That means it's an Ask Us Anything hour. We're going to do a special econ themed hour because we have the one and only Colin Plume of Noble Gold Investments with us. Colin Plummet, you are not just a precious metal guy. You are a knower of macroeconomics. You're an expert. You study this stuff, you absorb yourself in it. And so I thought it'd be really fun to bring you in for that. But welcome back to the studio.
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Colin Plume
Yeah, Good, good to be here. It's been a while.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah, it has been.
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Colin Plume
It's been a while. Yeah, A lot. Lots happening. And yeah, I love everything. Money, you know, dollar, gold, finance, real estate. So I love that you're a nerd about it. I love, yeah, I like to, I like to dive into it. It's what I do.
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Charlie Kirk
So you guys can work with colin directly@noblegoldinvestments.com Kirk definitely add that slash. Kirk so we get some credit for it. So Noble Gold Investments dot com. Kirk but tell us, just give us a bit primer and then we're gonna take some, some questions. You've got a bunch of fun, beautiful things here.
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Colin Plume
I brought some, some product. I know everybody loves a Gold kilo bar. So I brought this thing just because
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Charlie Kirk
the weight of it here, it's really heavy. People do not understand how heavy. Blake, I could throw it to you, but it would probably.
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Blake
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's.
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Graham Allen
It's a.
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Blake
It's a. It's a girthy gold bar.
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Colin Plume
How.
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Blake
How much is a kilogram of gold worth at this point?
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Colin Plume
It's around $150,000.
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Charlie Kirk
Okay, well, anyway, it's a little lower today.
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Colin Plume
Yeah, yeah.
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Graham Allen
Hand that back.
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Colin Plume
Yeah.
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Charlie Kirk
50. You just brought 100. What are you thinking? Have you not met our staff?
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Colin Plume
There's metal detectors here, so we'll be safe. Everyone will be safe. Safe. Yeah. It's an interesting day. Kevin Warsh, you know, today's the day he's going to be.
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Charlie Kirk
Oh, yeah, he takes over.
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Colin Plume
He takes over today. So I thought that's why today was the day. I thought it was a good day to come in, because what's going to. I mean, the Fed has such a massive job right now with everything that's happening. And President Trump has. Has been, you know, sounding the bell. We want to lower rates. We want to lower rates. The problem is, is that inflation, you know, last month hit almost 4%, and the Fed has this mandate of keeping inflation down and trying to create jobs and create a sound economic policy. So today he's in office, and then he has about a month before he has his first meeting, and there's all kinds of speculation about what he could do. Can he cut rates?
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Terrance Bates
Is he.
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Colin Plume
Could he raise rates? I mean, all these different things are happening. So that's why I decided to come in today. Lots. A lot's happening there.
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Charlie Kirk
It's huge. And everybody's always asking, what about the straight. What about energy? What about China is big in the news right now. So what are you, as somebody that studies this day in, day out, what are you looking for when it comes to the China diplomacy, the economic negotiations?
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Colin Plume
Yeah, well, I think that, you know, interesting. Just in terms of finance, China has a very interesting thing that they have to tackle and that they have US$3 trillion. They also have a massive amount of US treasuries that they hold. They also have, you know, they say a small amount of gold. So they always walk the tightrope of. They know the dollar's crashing. They know that the dollar's losing value. They know that they have to be sort of diversified from the dollar, but they own a lot of dollars.
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Charlie Kirk
Right.
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Colin Plume
So they. So they're always walking that tightrope of what to do financially. For them, what's going to be the best strategy? So they don't want to completely bash the dollar, but. But, you know, the brick nations have said repeatedly they want their own currency. They want it partially backed by gold or other currencies. So these are the things that I sort of look at is like, you know, China says we don't have that much gold, 2300, 20, 400 tons. But then you've seen they've had almost, you know, five times that amount in China. But the government hasn't been reporting that they. That they actually own it.
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Charlie Kirk
That.
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Colin Plume
That's just there. Interesting. So they're walking a tightrope. That is what China is.
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Charlie Kirk
Well, I mean, gosh, you have so many fun things here. I'm like, tempted to just like, yeah, you know, what is this?
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Blake
This is a gold back.
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Colin Plume
So this was a. There was a guy about eight years ago, decided that gold used to be money and let's make gold money again. So he created this gold back. Very popular. And, you know, there are corporations that actually accept this.
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Charlie Kirk
That's actual gold.
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Colin Plume
This has gold in it. It actually has about a little over $4 of gold in here.
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Charlie Kirk
Okay.
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Colin Plume
But it shows $1 on it. So this actually illustrates exactly the problem with our currency and why gold is so much more value. Because when he created this, it was actually less than a dollar of gold, just around that amount, and now it's $4 of gold. So that's how much the dollar has lost value over the last six or seven years since it's been. This has been created. So these are illustrations of things that are happening behind the scenes. Inflation eating away at our living and our cost of living. And it's something that, you know, we talk about a lot.
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Charlie Kirk
I. We have a question from Gracie specifically, I think, tailored to you. Gracie, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. Unmute yourself. You are on with Colin, Blake and Andrew. Good morning. My question is, do you have any financial advice for newlyweds?
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Colin Plume
For newlyweds? Well, first, congratulations. I mean, let's.
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Graham Allen
So let's.
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Colin Plume
Let's.
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Charlie Kirk
Thank you.
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Colin Plume
Let's talk about that. I think there's. The first thing is, have you had an open and honest conversation about everybody's finances? I would say that's the first thing.
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Blake
Ideally, you had that before you got
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Colin Plume
engaged, but ideally, but not always. So have you started there? I mean, is everything transparent between the two of you?
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Charlie Kirk
Gracie? Working on it, yeah.
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Colin Plume
Okay, so you haven't had that. So I would say that's probably the first place. So as you Said, I mean, sometimes you get, you know, you fall in love and finances come later. But now that you're going to build a life together, I think the first thing is to dissect what's there. Probably the first thing to do is look at debt. What, what kind of debts both of you guys have, and putting together a plan to start to wind down some of that debt. Because at the end of the day when you get together, the debt's going to be, you know, together between the two of you. So that would be the first thing to do. You also, if there's any retirement accounts or any money that's available or anything that could kind of build your net worth, you should start talking about those things.
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Charlie Kirk
So I have a question for you. So if they say they've got $50,000 in savings and they got $50,000 in debt, when they're coming together as newlyweds, do you usually kind of recommend that you pay off all the debt first or do you simultaneously pay down some of the debt and invest some of the money?
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Colin Plume
You don't want to be, you don't want to have zero cash. So I would never say put all in on the credit card unless you move in with your parents and they say, we'll take care of you guys, get to zero. But a hundred percent, you pay off the debt first. You don't do any investments, anything. If you have a 401k at the job and they're matching a 401k, there's
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Charlie Kirk
a be a penalty for pulling that out. Yeah, okay.
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Colin Plume
Yeah, but I'm saying if you're at a job and they have a 401k and you're putting 3% a year, you could continue that. But I wouldn't do anything drastic. I wouldn't buy a house, I wouldn't do any of those things until you're at zero debt.
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Blake
Yeah, I think, I think that's fair. I think a good rule of thumb also in terms of if you're a newlywed is to just remember, if you don't have kids yet, for example, anything you're able to save now, the compound returns on that are far greater than anything you save later. And once you have kids, it's going to be harder to save 100. And I always like to emphasize that. Just, you know, my personal story. I made very little money at my first job in Washington, D.C. but, but I lived with a friend of my dad's for a while, spent no money. I think one year, one month, I had a credit card bill of $116. And as a result, so I saved a surprising amount for the amount I earned. But that was happening. This was 2013. This was still the post 2008 stock market. And so anything I saved in that period basically has made a five times return just from the market going up since then and never mind any other dividend stuff. So I always like, you know, if you can, you just moved in together hopefully and your, your expenses overall should hopefully go down as a result.
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Colin Plume
Sure.
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Blake
And you can save tremendous amounts of money in that time period before you have kids and so forth.
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Colin Plume
Great advice. I love it.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah, you know, that's, that's an under appreciated aspect of when you do get married. Don't do it before. We're not like into cohabitating around here. But when you do get married, you don't have two rents anymore. You don't have a lot of duplicate expenses anymore. And you can really save more money.
- [58:24]
Blake
The guy's not spending as much on dates though. You should still do dates.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah, you should definitely still do dates. We don't want to, we don't want to encourage people not to. What, what do we got here guys? Blackout coffee. Love blackout coffee. I got my blackout coffee as a matter of fact right here. I love being in the studio for just that reason because they stock us up and it's great. They got Morning reaper, brutal awakening, 1776, dark roast. They got all the things. But this is not some corporate company that's burning your coffee and price gouging you. No, this is an American company, family owned and they do great work. Also if you want to get free shipping, earn coffee rewards, all those sorts of things, go to blackout coffee.com, use promo code Kirk at checkout and you will save 20% on your first order. And you'll if you sign up for those, the subscription, you get the rewards, free coffee, free shipping, all those things and you're supporting a great American company that makes, makes great coffee. So check it out. Blackout Coffee.com promo code Charlie at checkout for 20 off. We will be right back. I'd like a cup. All right. Welcome back to the Wide Refi studios here in of front Phoenix, Arizona. I want to tell you about them. You are an accredited investor. You can get 10.25% on your interest rate and that is fixed on your investment. You can invest in one to five years. You can spread your investment over those terms to best suit your needs. Your interest is calculated daily and paid out monthly. And then you can even take that interest and Donate it to organizations like Turning Point or your church or what have you. For more information, check them out 87780, Investment Invest, or visit them online@investyrefi.com for complete details. Make sure you review the private placement memorandum, scan that QR code on your screen, and to view the disclosures at your leisure. Why refi investing in America's future? All right, next question. Who's up next?
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Blake
How about we do Michael.
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Charlie Kirk
Michael, welcome. Michael, can you hear me? Yes, sir. Yes. So you said financial topics, so here, here's one. I'm a truck driver, and, you know, both sides of the aisle keep inflicting money away. And you are talking about the Federal Reserve and all that stuff. I know it has to do with Congress, too. But when are they going to get serious about letting the middle class keep the value that we bust our butts for every day? Because I'm kind of tired of. I don't see any part of the federal government being serious about it. Yeah, I totally agree with this. This is one of the. And I really want to talk about the gold standard. What's happened to the dollar since then, because I think that's, you know, that's really hollowed out the purchasing power of the middle class. I just want to say that till the day I die, I will be a budget hawk, because Bannon talks about this, too. It's the lords of easy money, right? Where you get, they print all this money, it causes inflation. And really what's happening is it's eroding the working class's ability and their purchasing power of the dollar. And so until we get a balanced budget, until we get really serious about this, we're printing money and we're inflating the problem and kicking the can down the road. So I'm really, really big on that. And we haven't lost sight of that. And, you know, if you go back to the one big beautiful bill, the debates that we had about that, that was one of Charlie's biggest problems, actually, was that we wanted to cut more. Turns out it wasn't really a spending bill, but. And so you got to deal with it in chunks. And right now, divided government filibuster. We're not going to get those big cuts we want. We're not going to get those, that balanced budget that we need. But that's really what's going on here. I don't know if you agree or disagree, but that's a big part.
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Colin Plume
Yeah, no, I mean, I mean, you look at the government debt at, you know, 39 trillion. Today, you look at when, you know, Ronald Reagan was in office, it was at a trillion, basically. So we, and now our interest on that 39 trillion is over a trillion. So we're spending well per year. Per year. We will never get a balanced budget. I'm just gonna say that now. I don't believe in it.
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Charlie Kirk
Maybe there's, hey, we got one in the 90s.
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Colin Plume
We got once. Yeah, but it's, it's. I think we've, we've gone too far in terms of what we're spending, in terms of the question of how to do it. I think if you look at the opportunities that are out there, you know, you being a truck driver, hopefully there's, you know, extra income coming in to invest. You really have to do everything to start setting aside money to invest to grow. And you got to get your money there. You know, when you look at the stock market, say you're like, wow, wow, stock market so high. What is that saying to us? Is it. Are the corporations that much more profitable? I would say no, they're not that much more profitable. I think it's actually saying that the dollar is so distrusted in the world that people are saying, well, I'd rather just put it in the stock market, or I'd rather put it in gold or other things. They just don't trust the dollar.
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Blake
I think that's to get around to another aspect of it. This gets at why it is important and valuable to get investments that are not just cash savings. Because one of the reasons inflation is most damaging to middle class and lower is they're more likely to just keep a larger share of their assets in savings. And some of that's because you need cash for emergencies and all of that, but sometimes it's just they don't necessarily know what else to invest in, or they distrust markets and all of that. And so they just sock it away in cash under the mattress, literally or metaphorically. And when you're in higher inflation times where they're devaluing currency, you are the loser in that situation. Whereas the winners are people who are invested in things that just increase their cash value in response to inflation. So that's stocks, metals, what have you.
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Charlie Kirk
That was one of the reasons that Covid was created. One of the largest wealth transfers in human history. And the middle class got screwed. And the incumbent financial class that owned assets, that owned properties, that owned stocks, bonds, precious metals, all those sorts of things, they made out like bandits because their net worth shot through the roof. Meanwhile, people holding Savings or working wage jobs, they got absolutely short end of the stick. And that's why we're talking about you got to put your money to work for you so that it's making money while you're sleeping, while you're not able to drive a truck. That's the key. So while the government's just going to keep spending and spending and spending, devaluing the currency, debasing the currency, you got to, to get assets that are making more, more on the return on investment than, than inflation. Really?
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Colin Plume
Yeah. And one thing I fun chart is Odell Beckham Jr. I think we have, yeah, famous football player. He decided to take 750,000 of his salary in 2021 and put into bitcoin. And everybody thought he was a little crazy or a genius. And you look at what that 750,000 in Bitcoin has done relative to the dollar. Obviously in dollar buying power, it's down to 525,000. So keeping in the dollar, Blake, to your point, is a terrible investment.
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Charlie Kirk
So it's lost 30% of its purchasing power. Right.
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Colin Plume
Bitcoin's up a little bit, 932,000 in value. But look at gold and look at silver. If you'd bought ounces of gold and silver in 2021, you'd have one point, almost $2 million in gold value. And then silver is the big winner. $2.9 million in value from 2021. This shows the ability of what gold and silver can do during heavy inflationary times. And I think today's an interesting example because gold and silver are down because there's some thoughts that the worst is going to come in and that he could raise rates or things are going to happen. In my opinion, he's going to do some kind of quantitative easing. He's going to, he's going to open up the money supply. He's going to figure out a way to do it. There's even been talks about changing how the CPI are calculated raise rates though. No, no. So no, some people think he's going to raise rates, but that's, that's a lot of the reaction today is that the 10 years up. So they don't think he's going to be able to cut rates. That was the big thing, everybody. President Trump was hoping he comes in,
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Charlie Kirk
but with Iran putting inflationary prices on energy, which trickles down through the whole economy, there's still got this inflationary pressure deal with, he's got to keep rates
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Colin Plume
either steady or, or, or, or find another way to get More money out there. And that's. And today's a. A reaction to that. So today is the day that I love in the metals market. You see this pullback and you know, it's a buying opportunity to acquire precious metals because at the end of the day when he's in. In a month, he's in today, he's got a month, and then he's gonna announce what he's gonna do. I don't think he's gonna sit on his hands. I think he's gonna try to get rates down, try to get more money out there to stimulate the economy. Because there's a lot of people out there that want that.
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Charlie Kirk
But this is a great graph, by the way. To the point of the question. It's like, okay, we are debasing our currency. If you kept it in cash, you're down 30%. If you invest it in silver, you're up almost 300%. And your money's worth. Worth almost 3 million bucks. So that's how you do it. You got to invest in stuff that's going to earn a far greater return on investment than the value that the dollar is losing. Great question there. We got more with Colin Plume if you guys want to check him out and get involved in what he's doing. Noblegoldinvestments.com Kirk noblegoldinvestments.com Kirk and by the way, we trust this guy. He's actually a good guy and knows his stuff. So that's why we're so glad to have him back on with us. And he started with us and he's back here. Couldn't stay away, Paul.
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Colin Plume
Couldn't stay away.
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Charlie Kirk
We'll be right back.
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Terrance Bates
Welcome back to this REAL Life. Welcome to America's Voice News break I'm Terrence Bates. President Trump is talking about China's ballroom after just leaving Beijing early this morning. Taking to Truth Social 47 writing China has a ballroom and so should the USA. It's under construction ahead of schedule and will be the finest facility of its kind anywhere in the USA, the president writes. Mr. Trump says his ballroom is scheduled to open around September of 2028. Work on the 400 million dollar addition to the White House is moving forward after a federal appeals court overruled a lower court which halted the above ground construction. The 90,000 square foot building replaces what used to be the east wing of the White House and includes a massive military complex underneath the ballroom itself. The commander in chief is on his way back home after that trip to China and he's returning to a new Fed chairman. Kevin Warsh is President Trump's pick to be the chairman of the Federal Reserve or takes over from Trump nemesis Jerome Powell, whose term ends today. Trump and Powell have been at odds over Powell's reluctance to lower interest rates. 47 has famously nicknamed the outgoing Fed chairman Too Late Powell over his fiscal policy. After eight years at the helm of the central bank, Powell is stepping away from the top job with inflation above
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Colin Plume
the Fed's 2%,
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Charlie Kirk
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Donald Trump
Hi guys. I appreciate you taking my call. I just want, and I, I just wanted to say that I'm a proud member of, of team Erica and I'm. And I'm taking the Bible365 for the first time this year. I'm really.
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Charlie Kirk
God bless you. That's awesome. I actually recording an episode today of that, so. Oh, excellent. Yeah, very good.
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Donald Trump
Yeah, yeah. And I apologize, I've, I've, I forgot today was supposed to be about economics.
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Charlie Kirk
That's okay. No, no, no, it's okay.
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Blake
Yeah.
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Donald Trump
All right. The question I have is, Andrew, you said, I think about a month ago that you were taking the Constitution 101 course from Hillsdale. And I was wondering if you would finish that and if. So, what's your taking now?
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah, so Constitution 101, the meaning and history of the Constitution. It's excellent. I'm about halfway through and actually the reason I took that was because I remember I was on a plane with Charlie and he was taking it and I was just blown away by it. This concept of how the founders spread out political power over not just geography, not just states, but over time and over, you know, function. So they did it intentionally. They spread and diffused power across not only different institutions. So you got the three legged stool, right? You've got the judicial, you've got the legislative, and you've got the executive branches. Then you've got two year terms, six year terms, four year terms. And then, you know, so this concept that the founders really pioneered has swept over the world because it was so brilliant. You can't have the passions of the people, you know, be taken by a mom, Donnie or something. And then within like six months, the whole country has shifted irrevocably and you can't get it back. No, you have to sustain a movement, has to prove its merit to the people over six years to fully turn over a government. Six years. So you think about the MAGA revolution that President Trump ushered in. That's been about a decade. Why? Because it Actually has staying power. People like populism, they like nationalism. They like, like, you know, basically the industrial base, reinvigorating the industrial base and tariffs, all these things. These ideas have staying power, and that is why it's lasted for a decade. But these flash in the pans can't take over the United States. That's why I love Constitution 101. Hillsdale does a great job on it. You asked what would I do next, or what course would I take next? I'm planning on taking the introduction to Aristotle's Ethics, how to Lead a Good Life. Charlie loved Aristotle, Socrates, Plato, studied them a lot. And so I've committed myself to study them and become as good as I can at those. You're going to have a hard time.
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Blake
The Nicomachean Ethics is hard to read.
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Charlie Kirk
Well, that's why Hillsdale is going to make it easy for me. It's not easy. I will tell you. Hillsdale, these courses are actually really rigorous, and the scholarship is really deep, and it's profound and it's excellent. So. So you got to devote yourself to it. But it's free and I recommend it. Charlie, for hillsdale.com Blake, what do you think about my choice with Aristotle?
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Blake
That's a good one.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah. CS Lewis would be another fun one.
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Blake
CS Lewis would be easier, for sure.
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Charlie Kirk
The Federalist Papers.
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Colin Plume
Could I do a Constitution reference here? Article 1, section 10. No State shall make anything but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts. So. So, I mean, listen, there's a reason why it was in there, right?
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Charlie Kirk
Interesting. Now, did we know, because. Okay, hold on. This is actually, I don't know, this part of the Constitution. Do you know this part of the Constitution that's obviously no longer true.
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Blake
Well, the states don't make their own money these days.
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Charlie Kirk
Right. So what was the transition Constitutionally?
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Blake
It was kind of a gradual thing. Was it an amendment? No, it's not so much that Congress has the power to coin money. I want to say it was around the Civil War where we really transitioned to centralized US Currency being, like, really dominant and having paper iterations of it. It's a complicated economic question, to say the least.
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Colin Plume
And we went to a central bank policy, so it changed. Yeah.
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Blake
So.
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Colin Plume
But, you know, that's when people. You know, I know his original question was about talking about the Bible, and then we're in the Constitution both places that gold was money. You know, there's. There's never been. People have been talking about how we're changing the currency, that the currency is going to change and the dollars don't. What? There's never been a currency that has, that has been a world's reserve currency that has not been backed by gold.
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Charlie Kirk
Are you an abolish the Fed guy?
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Colin Plume
Listen, I love Ron Paul. Huge fan of Ron Paul. I think that it's how. What's the next. Who's in charge? This is my problem because the idea that the power goes back to Congress, that's equally as troubling for me too.
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Charlie Kirk
Imagine AOC having a say in and
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Colin Plume
yeah, so I don't like the alternative is unless somebody comes up with Blake,
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Charlie Kirk
are you, are you an abolish the Fed guy? It's a big step to take.
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Blake
I'm not thought that hard about and I guess what I would say is as whatever the issues with the Fed, it has coincided with the period of absolute peak American economic dominance. So it's decline if it's true. But even the decline came in decades later. And I don't think it was because of Fed policy. I think it's because we decided to borrow infinity amounts of money and export our industrial base. And I don't think the Fed forced anyone to do that. What I do think is interesting with the, the gold and silver thing is it gets at something which is the, the sort of desire to debase currency for short term economic thinking has been around for a long time. That's why that's in the Constitution, because they're worried about some sort of. They called them levelers then. They didn't have, instead of socialists, they had levelers who wanted to level all economic differences. And so what levelers would do is they would want to, for example, they might introduce a paper currency and wipe out everyone's savings essentially by mass inflation, inflate everything away and use paper money. And of course we see that today there's, there's plenty of levelers in today's terms who want to wipe out economic differences, who would happily tear down the entire economic structure to equalize everyone or elevate themselves. And the Constitution was aware of that risk?
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Charlie Kirk
Well, yeah, I mean the British did this to the colonialists. I mean all the colonies used their own paper currency actually. And even after the Constitution a lot of them had their own paper currencies as you mentioned. Anyways, fascinating stuff here. Thank you for your question. Don. We're gonna go to. Who's next? Mary? Oh, Anthony. Anthony. Okay, Anthony, welcome back to the show. Unmute yourself, sir.
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Anthony
This is for Colin. So Colin, through my financial planner I have paper, gold and silver. Silver And I would like to add physical. And I trust him very much, but I also don't trust going to a pawn shop all the time.
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Charlie Kirk
Sure.
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Anthony
So would it be best to talk with your company about this or what would you recommend?
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Colin Plume
Yeah, I mean, I think it's.
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Terrance Bates
It.
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Colin Plume
Well, people always ask me like what about paper gold? And, and, and I'd say if you're actively trading, I don't know if. Are you really hands on with your. Are you more of like you said, set a plan and then maybe every year.
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Anthony
So mine's, mine's set for high risk and I like to high risk and everything. So I max out my investments each year. So I think was like. Which is like $7,000 I think according to government, right?
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Colin Plume
Yeah, yeah. It depends on what kind of IRA you have or 401k plan you have.
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Anthony
Right. So but my guy can only do like the paper gold and paper silver. And I would like to add physical. He's like, I have digital currency as well, like bitcoin and all that through him and everything. So I have, I have a diverse portfolio, but I want something physical to too.
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Colin Plume
Yeah, absolutely. And that's kind of how we came about. Is this the idea that you want something outside of the system. And I do think in this time, this change when there's talking about CBDCs and there's a real shifting with AI to this, everything's digital gold really fits into that. And it's because you finally have something that's outside the system. Right. You know, at the end of the day, your 401ks, your IRAs are all a digit, unfortunately. And so if something were to happen, like what kind of control would you have over that? Whereas physical gold, you'd have some, you have it, it's, it's yours. It's a, it's something to protect you against the system.
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Charlie Kirk
Do most of your clients, do they actually like have a safe at their home with a gold, like physical gold in it or do. Do you store it for most of your clients?
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Colin Plume
So I would say a lot of times it's both. Most people do both. Most people have a safe at home. We ship it to their home in a discrete package. We can also store. Most of the people that, that we store for outside of an IRA are a little bit older and maybe they're traveling, but usually younger people.
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Charlie Kirk
Those shipments must be heavy.
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Colin Plume
Yeah, they're heavy packages. So I would say absolutely, we can assist you. We focus on bullion coins and bars so we don't get into the Lot of. Yeah, this is bullying. This is going to get you the most bang for your buck, the highest weight, highest purity. And the other reason you don't want to go to a pawn shop is that the problem is when you want to sell back. See, we sell the same items day to day, so we're going to give you a great buyback price. When you go to a pawn shop, they don't know how long items are going to sit around. So they have to mark put a premium on the back end because they don't know we're turning around products all the time. We've done almost $4 billion in sales in bars. So we have people coming, selling and buying all the time. So we're going to give you a good price coming in and also a great price coming out.
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Charlie Kirk
Okay. By the way. Go ahead, Anthony.
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Anthony
No, I was just. That sounds more safer than going to a pawn shop. You know, it's.
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Charlie Kirk
Yeah, yeah, don't go to a pawn shop.
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Blake
Yeah, no.
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Anthony
Everybody up here where I live. Oh, just go to a pawn shop. They do gold and silver bars and coins. And I'm like, I don't know if that sounds really safe price gouging.
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Charlie Kirk
By the way. A lot of, lot of people in this space price gouge. And that's, that's one of the reasons we're with Colin, because I did a whole study on this. I don't want to get into too much detail, but I did a whole study on all the like, companies and like some of these companies, like legitimately, it's like highway robbery. And Colin is not that he's the opposite of that. So. Yeah, anyways, I mean, I, you know, I think it's fair to say.
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Colin Plume
Right, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And we can definitely help you out. And also you're going to get a live person to talk to. It's not like a bot or anything like that. So.
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Charlie Kirk
So you can actually.
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Anthony
Yeah, I already know because I've already. I actually downloaded your free gold investment thing already.
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Colin Plume
Oh, okay, great.
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Charlie Kirk
By the way, you know what's funny about Colin? I actually thought this was kind of like. I didn't know what to make of it when I first met you, but you were like the big silver guy too. I mean, Obviously you do 4 billion in gold, so you do a lot of gold. But I remember you were like really big on silver. And you know, it turns out you were right. You know, like if Odell Beckham Jr. Would have put it in silver, he'd have 750,000 would turn into 3 million and not nearly as much in gold. Yeah, absolutely. So, I mean, it varies time to time, but anyways, so, Anthony, since you're asking, that is noblegoldinvestments.com Kirk, do it. You got to do the slash, Kirk, for me, Anthony. All right. More Ask Us Anything when we get back. We will be right back in just a few minutes. More with Colin Plume. Economic questions welcome. Or anything. We'll be right back. All right, welcome back. Final segment of the final hour of the week here. Ask Us Anything. We've got Mary. Mary, welcome to the show. Please unmute yourself. Mary, there you are.
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Colin Plume
Hey, Mary.
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Charlie Kirk
We had her.
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Colin Plume
We lost her.
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Charlie Kirk
I'm here.
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Graham Allen
I accidentally remuted myself.
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Charlie Kirk
There we go.
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Colin Plume
Hi, how are you?
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Charlie Kirk
Hey, Mary. Hi.
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Graham Allen
My question or what are your thoughts
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Colin Plume
on DEI and employers that still use
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Graham Allen
this during their hiring process?
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Charlie Kirk
And any advice for young adults that
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Graham Allen
recently found out they were only hired because they're of their skin or, sorry, of their race?
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Charlie Kirk
Oh, interesting. So you know somebody. Do you know somebody that found out they were only hired because they were not white? Essentially, I'm going through that. Right.
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Graham Allen
Going through this right now.
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Charlie Kirk
Okay.
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Blake
I mean, if you are hired for something you're unqualified for, I mean, one thing is if you're not qualified for it, you should possibly look for another job, especially if it's something where, you know, maybe, maybe people are putting trust in you and lives at risk. But at the same time, we are aware people need to earn a living. It's strong to say, like, oh, quit your job because you don't deserve it or whatever. What you should do is you should become worthy of it.
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Charlie Kirk
I was gonna say that's become deserving of it. Yeah.
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Blake
Good way. If you want a frank way. Clarence Thomas, our favorite Supreme Court justice, he's overtly admitted he received boosts from affirmative action throughout his life. He came from a very impoverished background. He spoke with a Gullah accent growing up. And he, let's be frank. He was probably put on the Supreme Court partly for affirmative action reasons, you know, by President H.W. bush. But he became an amazing Supreme Court Justice. He's absolutely worthy of the seat. He's been an incredible jurist, and we can look to that as an example. So become worthy of things, but don't. And don't. Don't use it as a crutch. Don't be reliant on that sort of thing.
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Vice Chair of the Anti Fraud Task Force (possibly Andrew Ferguson or J.D. Vance)
Thing.
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Blake
If you're on the other side of things. If you are denied a job because of DEI stuff, the good news is for ages in America, it was sort of treated as we'd have these laws that say you can't discriminate based on race and hiring. And there's an implied, unless you're white or a white man, then they can flagrantly do it. And what this administration that we have has done is they've encouraged and opened the door and made it clear you can sue over these things.
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Charlie Kirk
Things.
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Blake
Right now the New York Times is getting sued by a white male editor who's been there for ages. It's never gotten promoted. And he says, I was not promoted because they were just endlessly promoting less qualified people to hit diversity quotas. And what's great about this is these lawsuits. Now that they're uncorked, they're going to be fish in a barrel. Because these companies routinely, they just have emails and text messages and communications that are like, yeah, no more white dudes. Dudes, no more white guys. If you had that for any other race, you're absolutely vaporized. And you should get vaporized in the same way for doing it to white people. So if you've suffered that, consider looking for lawyers. You have a case.
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Charlie Kirk
Well, and so it sounds like you maybe are benefiting in this instance from this. Just to add on to what Blake was saying, become qualified. We had this great interview with Tucker and Charlie years ago. The clip went viral. And Tucker, it was a great line. He said, take a job you're not qualified for. Like, live boldly. So really dig into this. And Charlie used to talk about this all the time, that one of the victims of DEI are the people that get the jobs that then have to think about, was I actually qualified for this? Was I the best at it? And then you have this insecurity, this sense of inadequacy that hangs over your head. Do not fall victim to that. And when we're talking about getting rid of dei, we're talking about, in broad strokes, macro. As a culture, this is bad for our cultures, bad for our economy. But on the micro, if you find yourself in a position where you've benefited from that and you believe the right things and you have the right values and you're trying to do the best by your employer, then by God, take advantage of it. Make the most out of that instance. And so you never have to wake up another day in your life thinking, did I get this because of some racist system? You make the most of it. That is on you. The responsibility is on your shoulders. And so what? We pray for you that you will go boldly forward and you will take advantage of this opportunity. But on the macro, it's terrible for the society and we want it to end. Fair enough.
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Colin Plume
Also, I would say don't live in the past. I mean, you're in the position right now. And the reason I'd say don't live in the past, it's not going to do you any good. The other thing to think about is that I know a lot of business owners that inherited a business. Right. Nepotism is rampant. Right. And they jump into it and they figure it out and they don't feel guilty about it. I think you have a lot of awareness that maybe you didn't get a job that you should have. And having awareness of who you are and learning about yourself is actually someone that's going to be very successful. Everyone that I know successful is a person. Like, I throw in the caveat.
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Blake
I did throw in the caveat about possibly mainly because we do have jobs where people, they're hired as, like, nurses or doctors, and they're totally unqualified.
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Charlie Kirk
Electric. Electrical work, you know, like, don't get yourself electric.
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Blake
I think that will get someone killed or yourself killed.
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Charlie Kirk
I to want to get to the last question here. Elizabeth. Elizabeth, welcome to the show. Please unmute yourself. Yes.
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Colin Plume
Yeah, go for it.
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Charlie Kirk
Okay, so quick question. I'm selling my house this year, and we're going to get a house built somewhere else. And so I was thinking about putting half of that money into silver because I had made a lot of money in silver this year. But this is also a situation where, like, we can't afford to lose the money and I need it in a year. What do you think?
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Colin Plume
Well, you're planning to build a house, so I mean, obviously if you're planning to build a house, there's. There's other assets there, too, I'm assuming. I don't, I don't know your financial situation, but, you know, houses.
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Charlie Kirk
This is basically, we're selling the house and getting a new house built somewhere else in a different state. We're just moving. So this is, this is my major asset.
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Colin Plume
Yeah, I mean, listen, nobody has a crystal ball of what's going to happen in the future. I mean, I would love to tell you I knew it was going to happen in the next, you know, three to five years. But ultimately, silver is, is a phenomenal investment. You know, China and the US Made silver, a strategic metal last year. So they basically said we need to hoard silver, we need to keep silver. They've had five years of shortages of Silver. So obviously I love it and I believe in it.
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Charlie Kirk
You wrote a whole book on it.
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Colin Plume
I wrote a book on it. And then the other thing to keep in mind with, with the wars that
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Charlie Kirk
are happening, I made a lot of money in silver this year.
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Colin Plume
You made a lot of money in silver this year. So you obviously know what it can do. So, yeah, I mean, I always say, you know, if sometimes knowing something, my book is called Silver's a New Oil, you could read it and get more information. But I do think we're going to see a lot of inflation coming in. I think that's why we're seeing the 10 year go up pretty, pretty high. You know, it's high fours right now. The long term is that we're going to see more and more inflation and typically gold and silver react very well. And if we do quantitative easing or any money printing, which I do think is going to happen, happen. If you look at the last time we did quantitative easing in 2009-2011, you can look at the charts and see what gold and silver did.
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Charlie Kirk
So, so one question though. She said, so she's going to sell her house. Let's say she has $500,000 and she's talking about putting half of that in silver. Do you feel like that's too much or do you, what, what percentage of a portfolio would you.
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Colin Plume
I think that ultimately what it comes down to is I'm not a financial owner and I don't know what other investments you have. So. So I'm not going to say a specific number. I think it's really important to give us a call. We can talk to you, we can learn more about you. I think you should pray on it. Talk to your husband or whoever's around you and let's take some time getting to know each other. Talk to somebody at Noble Gold. Let's build a relationship and then wherever it. Maybe you dip your toe in the water with us or you do more later, but ultimately I think it's a personal decision.
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Charlie Kirk
But you're bullish on silver.
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Colin Plume
Yeah, of course. Of course I'm bullish on silver. I like it. And I think, you know, if you have some liquid cash, it might be a good place for you.
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Charlie Kirk
Noblegoldinvestments.com Kirk, if you want to work with Colin, this is great, man. Yeah, I'll be back. We'll be back on Monday. Until then,